[00:00] derp [00:11] apache2-mpm-itk is also in universe, so no USN [00:11] kirkland, mathiaz: i've just uploaded libcgroup to REVU that addresses all of the current issues [00:12] kirkland, mathiaz: I think it's super solid now, any feedback you've got is much appreciated [00:16] jdstrand: hm - so USN are not published for packages in universe? [00:16] mathiaz: that is correct [00:25] jbernard__: since the 0ubuntu1 version of libcgroup has been rejected [00:25] i already bumped it [00:25] to 0ubuntu2 [00:25] jbernard__: you should just upload a new version of 0ubuntu1 to revu [00:25] ahh [00:25] good call [00:25] im on it [00:25] jbernard__: package version are only relevant once they're in the archive [00:26] jbernard__: but REVU is used before the archive - and thus should only have 0ubuntu1 versions [00:26] mathiaz: ok, good to know [00:27] jbernard__: and an changelog entry just stating Initial Release [00:27] jbernard__: once the package is the archive, REVU is not used anymore [00:27] jbernard__: new version should be sponsored via LP bugs(branches soon) [00:30] mathiaz: ok, upload complete, should show up on the next pulse [00:35] jbernard__: it seems that most of the code is actually licensed under LGPL 2.1 [00:35] mathiaz: yes [00:35] jbernard__: while debian/copyright states LGPL 2 [00:36] jbernard__: COPYING in the src tree is LGPL 2.1 [00:36] yeah, as i understood it, LGPL-2 == 2.1 [00:36] since it was the first successor to GPL-2 [00:37] jbernard__: hm - I don't think so [00:37] mathiaz: i was reading the second para from the top in COPYING [00:38] jbernard__: /usr/share/common-licenses/ has a file for LGPL-2 and another one for LGPL-2.1 [00:38] mathiaz: indeed it does, oops ;) [00:38] ill fix it up, gimme a sec [00:38] jbernard__: right - that paragraph is confusing [00:39] nothing gets by you guys ;) [00:39] jbernard__: licensecheck [00:39] jbernard__: ^^ help script to figure out the licenses of every file in the src tree. [00:42] mathiaz: i ran that, but it seems to be very particular about header format [00:42] mathiaz: so i ended up having to go through most of it by hand [00:44] jbernard__: I usually run this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/259563/ [00:44] jbernard__: which is just for loop [00:45] mathiaz: oh nice [00:47] mathiaz: ok, upload is done [00:47] mathiaz: i have to run out for a bit, but leave comments here and I'll pick them up on my return [00:47] mathiaz: thanks for all the time, I really appreciate it [00:53] kirkland: ^^ - looks good to me now [00:53] kirkland: you can have another look at the packaging - (0ubuntu1 has been rejected from the NEW queue) [01:13] hey guys can someone recommend a program to monitor my network cards. im having connection issues with my server and i beleive i have a bad nic in it but need to justify getting a new one [01:16] wireshark maybe? [01:16] hrm... are you getting a bunch of errors when you do a ifconfig? [01:44] wireshark on a server? no ... [01:45] tcpdump will work fine -- but it won't tell you if the problem is at the NIC [01:46] you can run some traffic tests locally on the LAN [01:46] but unless you test the same switch ports, etc -- you can't eliminate all of the variables [01:54] how many times have you seen a NIC fail giovani? [01:54] it's pretty rare [02:32] is it posisble to tell lvextend "extend to the end of the physical disk" instead of saying "+400M" [02:49] oh_noes: I guess you could just keep extending it until you run out of extents. [02:49] pvs will tell you how much is left [02:49] Ah, the manpage mentions %FREE [02:50] So try --size 100%FREE [02:50] +100%FREE, rather [02:51] nice, thanks!! Let me try [02:51] oh_noes: I worked this out by READING THE MANUAL [02:51] It's an approach I highly recommend. [03:37] twb: your right, I can use 100%FREE which works, however I cant lvextend it because the VG is still the same size [03:37] any thoughts on how to tell vgextend to "extend to the end of the existing disk you already have" [03:37] oh_noes: that doesn't make sense. [03:38] a VG is a bag of PVs. PVs are either disks or (more commonly) partitions. [03:38] Pastebin the output of "pvs", "vgs" and "lvs". [03:40] twb: http://pastebin.com/meeb9974 [03:40] oh_noes: so you have one PV, /dev/sdb1 [03:41] twb: in my example, I have extended the 'end' of an existing disk. So theres sdb1 which was originally 100% (8GB), then I added another 8GB to sdb, so I want to extend sdb1 to include the new free space at the end of the disk [03:41] oh_noes: if there is space on sdb not allocated to sdb1, you can't use it. [03:41] You would either need to extend the PV, or add another partition (sdb2) and make that a second PV, and add that new PV to the VG. [03:43] twb: hrm, ok thanks. What Im trying to do is handle a "VMware size increase". ie. the OS is shutdown, then sdb is brought back with additional space at the end. I want to be able to handle this and increase /foobar [03:43] I thought LVM would handle this, but maybe not. As you said, it appears my problem is that sdb1 isnt associated with that free space. [03:43] can I use anything to resize and expand sdb1 to take up the free space? [03:44] You can delete the partition from the partition table and create a new one in the same place, with a different size. I do not know if LVM will cope with that. [03:45] so there isnt a 'proper' way to handle this? [03:45] I prefer not to create a new partition, because I don't know how many more times it'll be extended (and thus new partitions) will be needed [03:47] Because you're running in vmware there's not a lot of point in using LVM anyway [03:48] You might as well just make a filesystem directly on /dev/sdb1 and then use resize2fs when you grow it. [03:49] twb: but wont I have the same problem? the partition is 8GB with unallocated space at the end of the disk. [03:49] I will still need to resize the actual partition, right? [03:50] Oh, yeah, I guess. But I *know* ext3 won't care if you delete and create a new partition [03:52] theres no GNU tool that can resize a partition into unallocated space? [03:53] gparted will do it, but I dont want to boot into a live CD. I was hopign to do it somewhere in rc2.d before applications come up (so they can use the new size) [03:53] "resizing" = bad! [03:53] oh_noes: you can't resize a normal partition while an OS is running from it [03:54] not even windows can accomplish that [03:55] maybe i can manually delete the partition with fdisk and create it again (but bigger) [03:55] yeah ... back up your data first [03:56] giovani: whats the definition of a 'normal' partition? Whats the difference between creating sdb1 on a new unused sdb1 and extending sdb1 when sdb is unused? [03:56] a "normal" partition is one that isn't LVM [03:56] your sdb/sdb1 example makes no sense [03:56] giovani: yep i get that, in my case the partition in question is /foobar [03:57] OS is *not* running from it, sdb1 isnt mounted. [03:57] ok -- so then why do you need to do it in rc2? [03:57] you can always modify partitions that don't have the OS on them when the system is fully booted [03:57] no need to use a livecd [03:57] i was hoping i could 'detect' the VMware disk has been increased, then resize it before apps come online [03:58] what? [03:58] sigh [03:58] I have no idea what you're talking about [03:58] giovani: what can I use to modify the existing partition into unallocated space? [03:58] what does "modify the existing partition into unallocated space" mean? [03:58] it means, sdb is 0-1000 blocks [03:58] sdb1 is using 0-300 [03:58] I want to make sdb1 take up the entire 0-1000 [03:59] you don't [04:00] particularly if it uses ext3 [04:00] giovani: Is that like spreading peanut butter too thin? [04:00] (run out of inodes etc?) [04:00] ext3 won't resize [04:01] period [04:01] the only way to resize a ext3 partition is to convert it to ext2 [04:01] and then back [04:01] and I would never recommend it [04:01] just move the data off -- make it LVM for future use [04:01] and move the data back [04:14] hello pw_thirdfloor_ === pw_thirdfloor_ is now known as pw_thirdfloor [04:48] there anyway that I can configure squirrelmail just accept just the username and not the full email address? === johe__ is now known as johe [07:46] New bug: #419053 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourn? une erreur de sortie d'?tat 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419053 [08:48] Is there a package for mod_security for Apache2 on hardy lts? [08:55] <\sh> martinjh99: doesn't look like...libapache2-mod-security occured first time in jaunty (when packages.ubuntu.com is true) [08:56] poo - Just had someone putting phishing files on my server... Trying to harden it up a bit... [08:56] setup ufw to allow http [08:57] and ssh only from local network... [08:57] Also added a password to root. Is there anything else I should be doing? [09:04] <\sh> martinjh99: I would fix the application first [09:11] Everything is updated from ubuntu repos - Updated Joomla from their website to the latest version. [09:26] martinjh99: don't use vulnerable web applications [09:29] lol [09:29] yes that might be a good idea... [09:30] joomla is indeed targeted - or, foremost the badly written plugins. [09:31] Ah ok - suggestions for a CMS then?? [09:31] So might be my choice of cms thats the problem... [09:32] <\sh> drupal is good...typo3 is also having issues mostly plugin wise [09:33] thanks for those - Could never get my head round Drupal when I tried it before plus there are no examples like the ones in Joomla [09:38] <\sh> martinjh99: drupal has a lot of examples and good books out in the field [09:46] :) I'll google and have a look... Thanks [10:03] anyone has any experience with snort? [10:05] dayo: you might try #snort :) [10:05] jtimberman: in there right now. spookily quiet, though [10:06] dayo: more active during the day in the US, I think. [10:06] jtimberman: true. forgot the timezome thing lol [10:06] dayo: me too, its apparently after 3am. [10:06] i'll check back later, then [10:07] lol [10:13] Are there known issues when using ext4 filesystems in qcow2 images? I'm seeing a lot of corruption when using a Karmic kvm host. [10:22] What I actually want is building a stable production system: [10:23] What Ubuntu version has the most stable version of kvm, what filesystem and what type of images should I use? [10:28] I did an release update however the php gd.so lib disapeared. how is this possible? (fixed it by installing the package php-gd) [10:37] a_ok: the only reason i could think it'd get removed was if gd was now built into the base php package, and not required as a module [10:37] a_ok: which release are you using? [10:38] hardy [10:39] mattt: yeah guess that must be it. dangerous though as these kind of changes can break stuff [10:40] a_ok: hmmm, i don't think that's it :/ [10:47] a_ok: maybe you want to look through /var/log/dpkg.log to see if it offers any insight [10:49] mattt: 2009-08-26 07:32:23 upgrade php5-gd 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.7 [10:49] when updating it just removed it and did not install the new one [10:50] i checked with apt-cache policy and there simply was no php5-gd installed anymore. i guess something is broken in that package [10:51] mattt: or 2009-08-26 07:40:47 remove php5-gd 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.7 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.7 [10:51] removed a bit to much [12:19] soren: so, if I fix that start-stop-daemon thing (at least on start) can I go ahead and upload that? [12:19] cjwatson: Yes, please do. [12:20] cjwatson: Sorry, didn't I say that last night before I passed out? [12:20] cjwatson: scrollback suggests I did not. Sorry. [12:24] no problem, I was beating on RAID this morning anyway [12:25] Hi! [12:26] if i boot with 8.04 or 9.04 live cd, i get a sda device. If i boot with my own kernel, i have a hda device. [12:26] this sucks since i want to do automatic cloning :) [12:26] is there a way to turn off/on this scsi emulation? [12:37] only by recompiling the kernel, usually [12:37] it's probably CONFIG_ATA plus CONFIG_PATA_WHATEVERDRIVERRUNSYOURCONTROLLER [12:38] the old IDE stuff is decreasingly well maintained so in general it's a good idea to try to switch away from it [12:41] okay, thanks [13:09] spiekey: What exactly are you trying to do? [13:12] soren: Boot up Ubuntu-Live CD ---> Run a Script that mounts, rsyncs, writes grub, reboots the Cloned PC. [13:12] my problem: When it boots up i get hda, in the Live CD its sda [13:13] so my searchand replace script wikk fail...well it works, but then i run into a kernel panic :) [13:21] I need to find a script that has a name in it. So far I have: find / -type f -regex .*\.sh -exec grep smith {} \; [13:21] It spits out the line the name is on, but not the file name. What do I need to add to view the filename? [13:26] heath|work: try 'grep -l' [13:28] pmatulis, thanks, I will [13:37] Helo all, i have a problem installing ubuntu server on box with no cdrom (i do it from usbstick). install stops on detecting cdrom (demands floppy drivers). could any one help me please ? [13:38] szczym: does your BIOS support booting from USB? [13:38] pmatulis, Thanks that worked! [13:38] heath|work: good stuff [13:38] yes, i did booted fine from usb [13:39] szczym: that's strange, what release are you tring to install? [13:39] *trying [13:40] 8.04.03 installer works from usb but dont go forward after message "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" [13:41] the failing item is: Detect and mount CD-ROM [13:45] szczym: maybe add comment to bug 378442 [13:45] Launchpad bug 378442 in linux "Error 'No common CD-ROM drive was detected' when installing Ubuntu Server via USB drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378442 [13:46] there are several bugs issued on that topic, but no solution ;( [13:51] szczym: i know, but commenting to it is the proper thing to do [13:54] yes, thanx for info. in my humble opinion its very embarrassing problem given debian/ubuntu excellence ... [13:55] szczym: agreed [13:55] szczym: you may want to dig dipper by asking in #ubuntu-installer [13:55] *deeper [14:02] thanx, i will [14:25] New bug: #419191 in php5 (main) "Mailing from php5 module fails when number of Apache VirtualHosts is above +/-1500" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419191 [14:26] above +/-1500? [14:27] giovani: I'm guessing "+/-" is a poor man's "~". [14:27] :) [14:35] soren: ah, it baffled me, honestly [14:46] szczym: looks like you got some good info over there [14:47] yes indeed it helped me partially [14:48] but any way i will tray to install 8.04 on other box into pendrive and then boot from it the machine because on 9.04 i head problems with gphoto2 [15:32] is there a command line tool that checks for available security updates and matches them with USNs? [15:32] /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check uses just the repository name. If it ends in -security, the update is considered a security one [15:32] (and it has to come from "ubuntu") [15:39] ahasenack: I was looking for just such a thing a month or so ago, but never found one [15:47] sorry guys, forgot the command to add a user in the terminal is it "sudo aduser john" ? [15:48] "sudo adduser john" ? [15:49] garymc: yeppers [15:50] thanks [15:50] useradd is the "classic" tool [15:50] but adduser is the kinder gentler interactive debian tool [16:04] hey guys... morning. [16:05] Anyone use clonezilla and know if there is a problem with doing 4 machines @ once over a network? [16:05] I've got a single image on a box... and I want to get said image down to 4 machines. But wouldn't think there'd be a problem with accessing the same file from 4 machines [16:09] I was wondering if could have someone look at ubuntu bug 396632. I filed it because I feel like I should be able to run `service lighttpd status` as an unprivileged user, but I'm not familiar enough with init scripts to know what to modify in order to write a patch. [16:09] Launchpad bug 396632 in lighttpd "lighttpd init file should not chown or chmod on status check" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396632 [16:12] traemccombs: accessing the image file shouldn't be a problem, but iirc, clonezilla uses udp broadcast, which could conceivably cause your network to get real slow [16:16] sgsax: yeah.... that could be bad. :) [16:16] maybe I'll just take them off the network and stick em' on a solo switch [16:24] Hello there. [16:25] I desperetally need someone that has experience with linux [16:25] I've done some "terrible" things [16:25] First I've removed my primary rtorrent 0.8.0 [16:25] And I've installed it with ./configure and make commands [16:26] All fine and well but I excidentally removed the source dir :S [16:26] So I thought why not download again and ./configure and make again.. [16:26] all good and fine only that I missed the stable versioninstaead I've selected development version :S [16:26] I tried to make uninstall [16:26] but I couldn't [16:27] i kept getting errors like: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. [16:27] and if that wasn't enough I've tried to install svn and from it rtorrent === Authority is now known as Guest21595 [16:27] http://www.howtoforge.com/compile-rtorrent-from-svn-ubuntu-8.04-hardy-heron <- I follewed that guide [16:28] all good and fine, only that know I have not working 0.8.0 version that only sudo user is allowed to run it :S [16:28] Is there anyone brave enough to help me solve this mess? I need to remove newest version of rtorrent which is 0.8.4 [16:28] and possible the svn lateset version 0.8.5 [16:29] and maybe even version 0.8.0 [16:30] any brave ppl here? [16:31] I guess not :S [16:32] frojnd: give people a chance to respond.... we are all multi-tasking [16:33] ilowe: ok I'm myself so I'll wait hope someone response. [16:33] frojnd: I take it the version in the repos is no good for you? === Faust-C is now known as virtualdisaster [16:34] has anyone actually successfully set up OpenLDAP using the server guide? [16:35] mushroomblue, no :) [16:35] mushroomblue, but i got a book that helped [16:35] ilowe: no [16:35] ilowe: I have 8.04 LTS and it is only 0.8.0 [16:35] virtualdisaster: wait. so the book helped you _not_ set up openldap? [16:36] virtualdisaster: what'd you end up doing to set it up? [16:36] mushroomblue, one sec [16:37] frojnd: what version do you *require*? [16:37] mushroomblue: i just set it up on lenny :) [16:37] hah. [16:37] doesn't lenny also require GnuTLS? [16:38] i do have libgnutls26 installed [16:38] ilowe: 0.8.4 [16:38] ilowe: it has features that I need [16:38] ilowe: well 0.8.4+ [16:39] mattt: didja use a howto, or are you merely strong with the force and set it up from memory? [16:39] mushroomblue, mastering openldap [16:39] good book [16:40] virtualdisaster: relevant to 9.04? [16:40] should be [16:40] hmm. seems most books on openldap I found require modifying a deprecated slapd.conf [16:41] mushroomblue: i know nothing about ldap, used some guides online [16:41] mushroomblue: what problem are you running into? [16:41] mushroomblue: i want to use ldap for vsftpd authentication -- used these two (fortunately book-marked them): http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_ldap_authentication http://www.debuntu.org/ldap-server-and-linux-ldap-clients [16:42] mushroomblue: it's working from what i can tell, i managed to use libpam_ldap to connect ldap and vsftpd [16:42] mattt: that might solve it. [16:42] I think my first mistake was using the ubuntu server guide [16:44] my first issue was trying to figure out GnuTLS in order to set up a certificate authority. documentation was slim [16:44] now slapd seems to be working with it [16:44] but I can't log in as a user from the directory. [16:45] I'll stop talking and RTFM a bit more. thanks for the links. [16:45] ilowe: I'm doing programming myself just out of curiousity, u still with me despite multi-tasking stuff? :P [16:46] yup; just checked out the SVN trunk, I want to see if I can throw together a quick deb for you [16:46] mushroomblue: you're trying to log in via what? [16:46] ssh. [16:46] mushroomblue: you took care of /etc/nsswitch.conf? [16:46] ilowe: great, just wannt u to know that I appreciate this. [16:47] I think so. [16:47] frojnd: you got it :) [16:47] should ldap be before files? [16:47] in nsswitch.conf? [16:47] yeah [16:47] mmkay. [16:51] mushroomblue: when you installed libldap on the client, did you specify the ldap server correctly? [16:51] it appears not. [16:52] I haven't even gotten to clients yet. [16:52] I'm still trying to get the server to auth. [16:52] turns out, nss-ldap is spitting out a ton of errors on startup. [16:52] apparently, ldaps//127.0.0.1 doesn't exist [16:52] it's also trying to find these things long before slapd starts [16:53] mattt: out of curiosity, did you just create a slapd.conf file? [16:53] mushroomblue: i'd start without the SSL stuff first, and then move on to that :/ [16:53] fair enough. [16:54] hello [16:54] mushroomblue: nope, i had one in /etc/ldap, provided by the ldap server ... you don't have that file? [16:54] mushroomblue: the only thing i can't figure out is when you configure libldap, where it stores that info about the server (as my /etc/ldap/ldap.conf file on the client isn't updated) [16:55] i'm having trouble using refresh-ims directive in squid refresh patterns in ubuntu server 8.04 [16:55] why isn't the directive supported? [16:59] is there anyone experiencing this issue? ctrl+c not interrupting processes and various zombies https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/402973 [16:59] Launchpad bug 402973 in ubuntu "ssh terminal on Jaunty doesnt process ctrl-C ctrl-D ctrl-Z and so on (dup-of: 317948)" [Undecided,New] [16:59] Launchpad bug 317948 in gnome-terminal "ctrl+c doesn't interrupt running process" [Low,Triaged] [17:00] cPF: thankfully not :) [17:00] it's totally driving me nuts.. been like that for 2 months now [17:03] hmm, seems like i just found a duplicate bug getting more attention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/407428 [17:03] Launchpad bug 407428 in openssh "sshd zombie processes and strange behavior after karmic upgrade" [High,Confirmed] [17:03] matt: slapd.conf is deprecated as of 8.10. 9.04 uses cn=config by default. [17:04] mattt: is it storing it in /etc/ldap/cn=config ? [17:04] mushroomblue: nope, al i have in there is a default ldap.conf file [17:07] mathiaz: hey, you noticed that libcgroup was rejected too.... [17:07] mathiaz: i couldn't find any specific feedback, or who did the rejection [17:07] mathiaz: could you? [17:08] kirkland: hm - no. I usually don't know why it has been rejected. [17:08] kirkland: I just ask the AA of the day [17:09] frojnd: will rtorrent work with latest repo libtorrent or does it depend on more recent versions? [17:12] kirkland: hm - the last karmic kernel update broke my karmic vms. [17:12] kirkland: the block device is not found anymore - have you heard of something similar [17:12] mathiaz: hrm, not really [17:13] mathiaz: dpkg -S `which kvm` [17:13] ilowe: it needs more recent libraries [17:13] ilowe: but to tell you the truth I don't know which ones since I have a mess here [17:13] kirkland: kvm [17:13] kirkland: the host is running hardy [17:13] ilowe: I would need someone that can fix my problems.. becouse to tell you the truth I don't know where to begin [17:14] ilowe: I can give you sudo user and you can fix it [17:14] kirkland: is was working correctly until today when I saw a kernel upgrade [17:14] frojnd: LOL.... that's a little familiar for a first date [17:14] mathiaz: interesting; hardy kernel too? [17:14] ilowe: under screen x :) [17:14] mathiaz: and your host is using the kvm-84 dkms module? [17:14] mathiaz: so the problem is clearly in the karmic guest? [17:15] kirkland: kvm on the host: 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu12.1~rc5ppa1 [17:15] kirkland: yes - I think so [17:16] kirkland: my first guess is that virtio block device are no longer recognized by the kernel [17:16] kirkland: the guest is running karmic [17:16] mathiaz: interesting ... the latest kernel busted my desktop too [17:16] mathiaz: something about crypto swap it doesn't like [17:17] kirkland: hm - block device related too? [17:17] mathiaz: maybe so... [17:17] mathiaz: can you confirm that booting the older kernel allows you to boot? [17:17] jbernard__: ping [17:18] kirkland: it was working correctly yesterday - let me try with an old kernel [17:19] hello guys! I just setup my ubuntu 64bit server as following: 2 disk 160each same partiotions.. 1 20gb 1 1gb 139gb rest ...the first 2 x20gb made md0 and they are / filesystem the other 2x139 are lvm and the 2x1gb swap... Is there a way to check they work properly ? [17:19] kirkland: yes - it works [17:20] kirkland: 2.6.31-6-server works [17:20] kirkland: 2.6.31-6-server boots [17:20] i ask because i think when i first booted it gave me an error :( [17:22] is there a way to check my server errors during booting ? [17:23] mathiaz: let's talk to rtg in -devel [17:23] kirkland: right - I won't have so much time to debug this today though [17:24] kirkland: I need my karmic vms working correctly for package testing before FF [17:24] mathiaz: right, i'm very swamped as well [17:24] mathiaz: we need the kernel team to get -7 into shape [17:26] frojnd: you still with me? [17:27] i tried to use reload-ims with the default squid (oooooold 2.6) in 8.04 -- to no avail, since it is not implemented in that version. now i've installed a "squid3" package from the official repos, and it seems to work with my previous config. It hasn't replaced squid2 tho...should i uninstall it? or expect any problems? [17:27] mathiaz: one more question .... [17:27] mathiaz: can you try booting with -7 kernel, and virtio off? [17:27] mathiaz: to see if it's a virtio problem specifically? [17:31] anyone know the command to uninstall? [17:31] Im trying to uninstall or remove twinkle from the server [17:31] i tried sudo remove twinkle [17:31] it doesnt work [17:31] garymc, sudo apt-get remove twinkle [17:32] thanks [17:32] garymc, i suggest you consult the handbook on items such as this [17:32] ok sorry [17:32] garymc, no biggie we all are learning :P [17:32] i just learned how to "pin" packages [17:32] :) [17:35] ilowe: yes still with u [17:36] ilowe: I just went out to check on workers... [17:36] frojnd: OK, I have a bunch of debs for you [17:36] ilowe: can't wait :) [17:36] frojnd: where can I put them? [17:36] ilowe: rapidshare, firewire, u can put em on my server via ssh [17:37] frojnd: ssh is cool [17:37] ilowe: ok let me create user for ya [17:37] kirkland: I'll give it a try later today [17:39] cPF: I intend to look into that, but only in a few days once I've done the feature work I have to get done first for karmic [17:41] cjwatson: nice to know.. but just guess what, it started working normally after aptitude reinstall openssh-server :o [17:42] thanks for erasing the evidence ;-) [17:43] I was wondering if could have someone look at ubuntu bug 396632. I filed it because I feel like I should be able to run `service lighttpd status` as an unprivileged user since I can run `service mysql status` unprivileged, but I'm not familiar enough with init scripts to know what to do [17:43] Launchpad bug 396632 in lighttpd "lighttpd init file should not chown or chmod on status check" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396632 [17:43] maybe i'll reboot and see what happens [17:43] *shrug* don't worry too much, I'm not going to be able to investigate today anyway and there's already a bunch of information on the bug [17:43] i had it go away for a while in the past too [17:44] anyone know the difference between an IDC insertion tool and a punchdown tool? [17:44] but last time i thought it was related to bash or pam upgrades [17:44] entirely possible [17:44] it'll be something to do with the precise nature of the environment in which the daemon is started [17:45] restarting the daemon in a different environment will make it go away [17:46] i checked the signalmask bits before the miracle happened (as shown in the bug info) but they were all zeroes, as they should be [17:46] hmm, that could be it [17:52]