[00:00] <SiDi> You're welcome again then
[00:14] <LittleItaly> hello, i have a laptop. what is the best wireless pcima card?
[00:15] <LittleItaly> Belkin F5D8010 ?
[00:49] <LittleItaly> is no one around?
[00:57] <genii> Lots round, no one is replying
[01:12] <LittleItaly> do you happen to know?
[01:16] <genii> LittleItaly: I have a dlink cadr but I'm not some expert
[01:16] <genii> *card
[01:17] <LittleItaly> did you get it and it worked when you put it in?
[01:17] <genii> Yup
[01:21] <LittleItaly> what kind do you have?
[01:22] <LittleItaly> dlink what model
[01:30] <LittleItaly> genii
[01:30] <genii> looking
[01:32] <genii> LittleItaly: dwl-g630
[01:33] <LittleItaly> thank you! so i dont have to download any apps or drivers? just plugged in and played?
[01:33] <LittleItaly> kernal contains drivers right?
[01:33] <genii> Yup
[01:33] <LittleItaly> im sorta a linux noob
[02:44] <Kirbon> how do you reinstall dpkg
[05:36] <Kretchfoop> g'day, so i'm new to installing linux, of any flavour, I have downloaded xubuntu 9.10. Is it meant to boot to a Command Line rather than gui? or have i done something wrong?
[05:37] <Kretchfoop> i'm dual booting with xp.
[05:37] <maduser> which one did you download the live cd one or the other one?
[05:37] <maduser> you all ready installed it?
[05:37] <Kretchfoop> i downloaded an iso, whihc i burnt to a cd
[05:37] <Kretchfoop> and ran it of the cd for a while, then installed it onta a partition
[05:38] <Kretchfoop> when i boot it using grub, it boots to a comman prompt
[05:38] <Kretchfoop> is this because it's 9.10 rather than 9.04?
[05:40] <maduser> what does the prompt say?
[05:40] <Kretchfoop> to run a command as admin use sudo.... etc
[05:45] <xylox> Kretchfoop, the only ubuntu that doesn't install a desktop is the server version
[05:45] <Kretchfoop> karmic-desktop-i386.iso is the iso i burnt....
[05:45] <Kretchfoop> and running off the cd worked fine...
[05:49] <ingenioushax> Question: How can I modify my windows? I wanna change the colors and such.
[06:00] <Kretchfoop> hmmm, still no go, what command would boot up the gui?
[06:20] <Kretchfoop> so nobody have any ideas?
[06:32] <durt> Kretchfoop, 'sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm start' will start the gdm greeter (login screen).
[06:32] <Kretchfoop> i tried that, but it claims my password is wrong...
[06:33] <Kretchfoop> unless i accidentally typed the wrong password twice...
[06:33] <Kretchfoop> at install
[06:33] <durt> caps?
[06:33] <Kretchfoop> tried it
[06:34] <Kretchfoop> i think i might have to reinstall, will i be able to go over the current partition?
[06:34] <durt> yes, pay close attention to that portion of the install (selecting where to install).
[06:35] <Kretchfoop> here goes...
[06:40] <durt> Kretchfoop, why 9.10? If your new to linux you should be using 9.04, 9.10 is still in alpha developement.
[06:40] <Kretchfoop> amateur mistake
[06:41] <Kretchfoop> i was looking through a mirror, and just grabbed the latest one i could find. I realised just before it finished that it was an alpha, but thought i would give it a whirl
[06:41] <Kretchfoop> i've used linux before, in a limited capacity, but never installed it.
[06:42] <durt> more than likely it will be ok, but you never know if a dev is testing out a new package version or new kernel module etc.
[06:44] <Kretchfoop> yeah, i _could_ just grab 9.04 but this is more interesting.
[06:44] <Kretchfoop> how much difference is there actually between ubuntu and xubuntu?
[06:44] <Kretchfoop> is it just interface?
[06:50] <durt> ubuntu uses gnome, xubuntu xfce, gnome is much much more of an integrated environment (read huge, mammoth, gargantuan) than xfce. gnome does much more stuff.
[06:53] <Kretchfoop> fedora use gnome?
[06:54] <durt> I think yes, by default. At least it used to the last time I looked at it.
[06:56] <Kretchfoop> ok, with these partitions,  the auto option wants to have a 3rd partition, so i'll need to do it manually?
[06:57] <durt> I suppose.
[06:58] <Kretchfoop>  /dev/sda5 is the old xubuntu partition (i think) with sda6 the new one?
[07:01] <durt> you can tell what it is by the file system type, linux is ext4, windows fat or ntfs, swap will be swap.
[07:01] <Kretchfoop> ok, i've deleted ext4
[07:05] <Kretchfoop> gotta run, i'll figure this out, eventually
[08:30] <vallhalla81> hi there all i am having trouble getting the drivers for nvidia to work as the hardware drivers program keeps crashing can any advise?
[08:35] <psycho_oreos> mm you could probably manually try using synaptic, aptitude, apt-get
[08:41] <vallhalla81> synaptic dosent seem to want to do them either very odd it install other things just fine but nvidia fails
[08:42] <psycho_oreos> what, it won't show up on the list?
[08:43] <vallhalla81> its on the list but wont download the kernel source
[08:43] <psycho_oreos> any reasons?
[08:44] <vallhalla81> just re-trying i will pastebin the result
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> I'd also try apt-get as well
[08:45] <vallhalla81> shall do that next :)
[08:48] <vallhalla81> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/nvidia-180-kernel-source_180.44-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[08:48] <vallhalla81>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.40 80]
[08:48] <vallhalla81> but it got the rest
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> try another repo, or maybe one near you
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> wait from the same repo?
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> maybe that repo is missing that file
[08:48] <vallhalla81> yep
[08:49] <vallhalla81> could be i shall swap and retry
[08:49] <psycho_oreos> I'd pipe that filename in full excluding the paths into google and see which mirrors has it
[08:49] <vallhalla81> that was the main server should have it all
[08:50] <vallhalla81> just jumping on to the uk server sow
[08:50] <vallhalla81> now*
[08:50] <durt> vallhalla81, ping that ip
[08:50] <vallhalla81> why?
[08:50] <durt> you might be blocked, no dns etc.
[08:51] <vallhalla81> its not blocked i got other files from it
[08:52] <durt> 'connection failed' means your not getting through to it. Network issue.
[08:52] <majuk> Hey guys, emerald is giving me hell, what's XFCE's default theme manager?
[08:55] <vallhalla81> durt: pinged it it seems just fine
[08:56] <durt> now can you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[08:57] <vallhalla81> its all good
[09:00] <durt> well, I'd say it's not a problem on your end. But it's definitely a network/server issue to get a connection failed.
[09:01] <vallhalla81> just seems odd that any thing else i get from either server is fine just wont do the nvidia driver
[09:02] <vallhalla81> hehe got it another way
[09:03] <durt> try a continental server, or a N.A. se.... oh good.
[09:04] <vallhalla81> the error msg had a adddress in it for the file so i just put it in a browser :)
[09:05] <durt> I think there's a lot of activity with 9.10 feature freeze. The server could just be overloaded.
[09:05] <vallhalla81> could be
[09:06] <vallhalla81> got to restart system brb
[09:06] <vallhalla81> thank you for your help
[09:36] <timeout> hey, I have a compiz problem- using openoffice I lost a toolbar- all I have now is a titlebar, without name or title- implacable in fact
[09:37] <timeout> A titlebar which just sits there and can't be used- not to mention the lack of functionality.
[09:37] <timeout> Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:42] <yesitisjustme> is there a software that could tell you how much ram your computer can handle?
[09:43] <timeout> how much it can handle?
[09:43] <timeout> That's a hardware issue, isn't it?
[09:44] <yesitisjustme> ya like example can it handle like 1gb or 2gb
[09:44] <yesitisjustme> the laptop brand i never heard of it
[09:45] <yesitisjustme> so i couldn't find information about max ram
[09:45] <yesitisjustme> it has 512mb ram now that i put and wanted to try higher
[09:46] <yesitisjustme> is pc2700
[09:46] <yesitisjustme> 1.5ghz processor
[09:47] <yesitisjustme> think it will handle 2b
[09:47] <yesitisjustme> 2gb
[09:48] <yesitisjustme> was hoping a software could detect
[09:49] <TheSheep> it's not possible
[09:49] <yesitisjustme> oh
[09:50] <yesitisjustme> like everest detects stuff but i don't think it detects max ram
[12:07] <SiDi> damn, they both left
[12:41] <paul__> hello all, where can I find icepref for jaunty ?
[12:52] <majuk> Uh huuuuuu.... so my sdb drive, a member of my RAID5 array, just tripped out for the second time. Totally shut off and then reinitialized while the system was going, causing havoc. Can anyone shed some light as to why? dmesg output-> http://dpaste.com/85552/
[12:59] <_Pete_> try google: SError: { Handshk }
[13:00] <_Pete_> links there suggest some cases maybe caused by nvidia drivers
[13:00] <SiDi> paul__, what is icepref ?
[13:24] <paul___p> SiDi, icepref is a graphical tool for configuring preferinces of IceWM
[14:00] <om26er> qt application's font is so large. i have changed the qt font in the qt settings and also restarted but the font is still huge
[14:01] <TheSheep> check your dpi settings
[14:01] <TheSheep> in appearance, I think
[14:01] <om26er> TheSheep: other applications are fine
[14:02] <om26er> TheSheep: no that does not help
[14:03] <xylox> qt app's are meant to kde
[14:03] <SiDi> om26er, the KDE DPI settings you have are probably higher
[14:03] <xylox> use gtk apps
[14:03] <SiDi> The best thing to do is probably to indeed use GTK+ applications :]
[14:04] <om26er> SiDi: then how to change em
[14:04] <SiDi> I have no idea, honnestly
[14:28] <Juandev> hi
[14:30] <Juandev> we try to install xubuntu to a computer, where previously Windows Millenium was installed. When boot from CD, the BIOS refere the disk is not system - whats wrong? how to install xubuntu?
[14:42] <MTec007> im having some problems with USB devices, xubuntu acts like i dont have permission to use usb devices or something
[14:44] <genii> MTec007: Are you in the group plugdev ?
[14:45] <MTec007> ill check
[14:46] <MTec007> yeah
[14:46] <knome> Juandev, did you burn the disc correctly?
[14:48] <SiDi`Laptop> Juandev, usually it means there has been a problem while burning the disc, so the BIOS cant boot on it
[14:50] <Juandev> I think I burn the disc correctly
[14:50] <SiDi`Laptop> Can you check it from your burning software, please ?
[14:51] <Juandev> SiDi`Laptop: once more? why not
[14:51] <SiDi`Laptop> You already did and it said it was well burnt ?
[14:52] <Juandev> yes
[14:52] <Juandev> but let me controll it once more
[14:53] <SiDi`Laptop> Other, do you know what the error message from the BIOS is exactly ? Is there an error code, some cryptic stuff coming with the message ?
[14:54] <Juandev> CD looks ok, I can see files from from other computer
[14:54] <Juandev> it is in *.iso, is that right?
[14:54] <SiDi`Laptop> you need to burn the iso as a disc image
[14:55] <SiDi`Laptop> not to copy it in the CD as if it was a file CD
[14:55] <Juandev> well, I have downloaded it and burn it like a file - thats wrong?
[14:56] <SiDi`Laptop> yes :)
[14:56] <SiDi`Laptop> .iso files are images of real discs
[14:56] <SiDi`Laptop> burning software allows you to turn discs into .iso files and .iso files into discs
[14:57] <SiDi`Laptop> What you did it put a file in a data CD, instead of creating an actual CD from this .iso file
[14:57] <SiDi`Laptop> it's why your BIOS can not boot it. It's a file disc, and not a bootable CD-rom
[14:57] <Juandev> OK, I see here some opportunities in my burning software
[15:00] <MTec007> genii, im a memeber of the group plugdev
[15:11] <Pres-Gas> Welcome back cody-somerville! ...and totally diving in as I look at the mailing list I see.
[15:11] <cody-somerville> :)
[15:14] <genii> MTec007: Apologies on lag, work required me
[15:14] <genii> MTec007: What says out put from: groups
[15:14] <MTec007> matthew@matthew-laptop:~$ groups        matthew adm dialout cdrom audio plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare id: cannot find name for group ID 1001
[15:17] <genii> Hm. That samba error looks interesting but is likely unrelated to the usb access issue. The relevant groups would be cdrom dialout audio and plugdev, which you are in already
[15:17] <MTec007> well actaully its not samba error
[15:17] <Juandev> and is there a xubuntu for i686 cpu?
[15:18] <Pres-Gas> 1001 seems like a system level UID
[15:18] <MTec007> i made a group named 'usb' to see if i could fix it, and then i removed the group 'usb' and it didnt clean up
[15:19] <genii> MTec007: Can you access the usb when you are on as the user belonging to uid 1000 ?
[15:20] <MTec007> matthew is my only user
[15:20] <Pres-Gas> MTec007, how did you remove your usb group...how did you create it too?
[15:21] <MTec007> via the manager user and groups dialog
[15:21] <genii> Odd that the only user would have a uid 1001. It starts by default at 1000 and counts upwards as users are added
[15:22] <MTec007> those are my groups
[15:22] <MTec007> not my users
[15:22]  * Pres-Gas tries to remember if the GID sticks around with members when you remove a group in that way.
[15:22] <Pres-Gas> Whoops, I realized I said UID and meant GID, sorry
[15:22] <MTec007> my users are matthew and root and one i made a week or so ago named ssh1
[15:24] <MTec007> i thought i removed the users before hand
[15:27] <MTec007> yeah the error goes away if i recreate the group i made, 'usb'
[15:28] <SiDi> Juandev, amd64 is for Intel and AMD 64 bit processors, and i386 for Intel and AMD 32 bit ones
[15:30] <MTec007> genii, Pres-Gas: brb
[17:53] <Juandev> okay
[18:06] <paul___p> Hello all, I've read on forums, but I can't understand and how to resolve this problem, I upgraded to kern-2.6.28-15 and I have ati 1550 , the problem is(in my case) that not only X hangs, it's freezed all (no text, no numlock, or capslock), If I boot in an older kern , it works, Is there a fix, I read that is from fglx, but how do I resolve it, thanks in advance
[18:31] <basajaun> noticed save as takes for ever how can I troubleshoot that?
[18:32] <basajaun> why should the process take so long?
[19:32] <chthp> Hello, anyone here familiar with Xubuntu 9.04 Live USB ? I have some question about persistance and storage. (installed it to a 2gb memory stick, heh).
[20:04] <majuk> Is there a "Ubuntu Endorsed" way to update mdadm.conf?
[20:08] <majuk> That was a stupid question and I apologize for asking it. :)
[21:38] <slow-motion> hi
[23:03] <bigzed> does someone know where i find django's standard files after installing it with apt
[23:03] <bigzed> because i'm searching for the django standard admin template
[23:06] <MTec007> hello, im looking for a compiler, for ASM. it needs to produce code for an 8bit microprocessor so like the .asm file will compile into a .hex file with likes starting with :semicolons.   any one have any ideas for me?
[23:06] <MTec007> s/likes/lines
[23:31] <SiDi> MTec007, depends on the type of asm file
[23:32] <SiDi> MTec007, there are as and nasm as compilers for ASM
[23:32] <MTec007> would you be able to tell the difference based on the source code or the hex code?
[23:32] <SiDi> i dont know what kind of file you mean. If i remember well, asm compilers write binary code that then needs to be linked
[23:33] <SiDi> i dont think i could still recognise the different kinds of asm ^.^
[23:33] <MTec007> lol
[23:33] <SiDi> the hex code is, i assume, the unlinked binary :P
[23:33] <MTec007> well what this is for is for a PIC12F683 microprocessor
[23:34] <SiDi> you should have a specific piece of software to write the good binary code for this arch
[23:34] <MTec007> they have several for windows
[23:35] <SiDi> Did you try wine ?
[23:35] <MTec007> theres an IDE called MPLabs
[23:35] <MTec007> i could use wine but i would rather not :)
[23:36] <MTec007> i managed to find a program to program the HEX onto the microprocessors
[23:36] <MTec007> but not a compiler.
[23:38] <SiDi> well you need to build it on a similar arch
[23:38] <SiDi> doesnt the IDE contain an emulator with a compiler ?
[23:39] <MTec007> it has a debugger which i think isnt an actual emulator
[23:39] <MTec007> but i dont have the tools to debug this PIC
[23:40] <MTec007> it does have a compiler though
[23:40] <SiDi> checkout documentation on nasm
[23:40] <SiDi> look for a 8bit format that looks like your chip
[23:42] <jiohdi> lately I am booting into no volume... it seems that something it setting my volume to zero... whats up?
[23:42] <SiDi> and man as too, MTec007
[23:43] <SiDi> there MUST be one format that is the good one
[23:45] <jiohdi> anyone else having volume problems?
[23:45] <SiDi> jiohdi, do you have pulseaudio running ?
[23:45] <MTec007> i dont know:) i do know that the PIC i am using has "Only 35 single word instructions to learn"
[23:45] <jiohdi> siDi, I dont think so... it just started a couple of days ago... no sound, then I have to find aumix and turn it back up again
[23:46] <SiDi> MTec007, contact the company
[23:46] <SiDi> ask them what type of arch it is, if they know how to build with as/nasm
[23:46] <SiDi> or if they can add the pic's format to as/nasm :P
[23:47] <MTec007> i might have to