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sbalneavEvening all03:37
ace_suareshi sbalneav03:43
sbalneavHey ace03:51
ace_suareswassup04:00
sbalneavMaking a blog post.04:01
sbalneavIt's been 9 or so months.04:01
sbalneavI'm about due :)04:01
ace_suaresthere's blogger and coders :-)04:04
sbalneavhttp://ltspthinclient.blogspot.com/04:06
sbalneavI code much more than I blog :)04:06
ace_suaresyeah obviously04:07
ace_suaresi wasted another 3 hrs playing a game04:07
ace_suareshe he04:07
sbalneavWarzone?04:08
ace_suaresyep04:08
ace_suaresgood post!04:08
ace_suaresnicely written too04:08
ace_suaresI just won so I am lookign around a bit and then sleep04:09
sbalneavBuild machine gun bunkers to defend.  Research cannon tech until you get HPV's, build one command turret, and put the factories on auto-build of python hover HPV's.  PWN all enemies.04:09
ace_suaresmore or less accurate. I like vtols too ;-)04:09
ace_suaresso you wasted a couple of hrs too uh...04:10
ace_suaresman i had so much trouble with my machine for days04:10
ace_suaresvery strange i chnaged refresh rate on sytem monirot and everythign was fine again04:10
ace_suaresunbelievable04:11
sbalneavI've been playing warzone 2100 since the game came out commercially.  I've been following the Gnu implemenation since day 104:11
sbalneavI even contributed a couple of patches :)04:11
ace_suaresah we need to play online one day then :-)04:11
sbalneavSure.  I'll probably get my *ss kicked since I've played the AI so long I know exactly how *little* I need to defend :)04:12
ace_suaresr u going to linuxcon ?04:12
sbalneavNah.  With the exception of BTS in late october, I'm conferenced out for the year.04:12
ace_suaresoh i am still in the stage where I spread those red/gray rockets, then mortars around, just drag some trucks and then carpet bomb the enemy04:13
sbalneavFISL in Brazil, LinuxWorld in San Fran, and LTSP BTS in Maine.04:13
ace_suaresI dislike the travel so you will see efforts from me to host any linux/ltsp/whatever con here in curacao :-)04:13
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ace_suareshi dgroos04:22
sbalneavhello dgroos04:22
ace_suaressbalneav: damn, all the cookbook pages on the edubuntu wiki redirect to help.ubuntu.com !04:23
ace_suaresok i am off can't do much on the wiki now04:30
ace_suaressee ya04:30
dgroosHi ace_suares (ok, kinda post facto, I know :)05:15
dgroosand howdy, sbalneav.05:16
sbalneav_Userper_ pointed out a "potential" bug in Sabayon, but turns out it's not a bug05:16
dgroosI got iTALC fixed yesterday on the server and NX today--things are starting to look pretty...05:17
dgrooswhat was it?05:17
dgroosNow, if I can get my plone site upgraded and get CmapTools to work as localapp I'll be able to think about teaching!05:18
sbalneavdgroos: He disabled the command line, then wondered why he could still launch gnome-terminal05:25
dgroossounds like a teacher ;)05:26
sbalneavbut disabling the command line only stops the "command->run" interface from gnome.  If you want to disable the terminal, you have to remove it from the menus.05:26
dgroos(like me)05:26
sbalneavHow's a kid supposed to *LEARN* anything if you don't give 'em the command lin?05:26
dgroosyea...05:27
sbalneavWhen I was in grade 10, I had my first "official" computer course.05:28
sbalneavI had build my own computer from a kit (a ZX-81) in grade 8.05:28
sbalneavI sat right in the front row, and all during the first class, I corrected the teacher on his syntax errors.05:28
sbalneav"Mr. Friesen, you need a NEXT N there. Mr. Friesen, you need a semicolon there." etc.05:29
dgroosCool, and hopefully the teacher appreciated and took advantage of this young teacher!05:29
sbalneavAfter 2 more classes of this, he took me aside, asked me a couple of questions, and determined I knew more about BASIC programming than he did. :)05:30
dgroosand then did he put you to profitable use--ie profitable for your education and others?05:30
sbalneavHe said "We have this new thing called a "glass tty" connected to something called "unix", maybe you'd like to play with that for the rest of the year"05:30
sbalneavThis was in 198405:31
dgrooscool :)05:31
sbalneavAnd the rest, as they say, is history.05:31
dgroosnice.  Ever contact Mr. F. and let him know what you do, that you program for education on your own time?05:32
sbalneavPersonally, if it were me, I'd let the kids have the command line.  Those who don't figure it out can keep plinking away in the gui.  Those who manage to trash their home directory, or start poking around in /usr/sbin get to check out a copy of "Programming in Python" or "Shell scripting basics", and full marks for the year :)05:33
sbalneavI did, years ago.  He passed away about 10 years back.05:33
sbalneavAt that point, I was still working for the University of Winnipeg.05:34
dgroosDown town...05:34
sbalneavI've taught classes, but never to grade school kids.  Only either uni students or adults.05:34
dgroosMy daughters heading to U of M in 10 days :)05:34
dgrooswill be a 'frosh'.05:35
sbalneavWhich faculty?05:35
dgroosWell, she want to study Eastern European history, though not sure that answers your question?05:36
sbalneavAh, so she'll probably spend a chunk of time in Fletcher Argue05:38
sbalneavI spent most of my uni years hanging out in windy hall in the basement of armes. :)05:39
dgroosFletcher Argue?  sounds like someone who makes arrows would do in a disagreement ;)05:40
dgroosSo you went to U of M?05:40
sbalneavYup05:40
sbalneav86-9005:40
dgroosShe's very excited.05:40
sbalneavYeah, University's a lot of fun.05:40
sbalneavLots of new things to learn, people to meet.05:40
dgroosanyway, I'm sure I'll get a chance to buy you that beer I mentioned a while ago, though not this trip next weekend. :)05:41
sbalneavYou live in winnipeg proper, or out of town?05:42
sbalneavI'm in South St. Vital.05:42
sbalneavGimme a yell at work if you're ever passing by.  985-524905:43
dgroosWell, actually i live in Minnesota,05:43
sbalneavOh!05:43
dgroosand yes, I will!05:43
sbalneavU of M = University of Minnesota!05:43
dgroos(Minneapolis to be specific)05:43
sbalneavThought you meant university of Manitoba :) lol05:44
dgroosNo, U of M = University of Manitoba!05:44
sbalneavSo she's coming to OUR u of M instead of yours?05:44
dgroosShe's going to go to school in your country, not mine :)05:44
sbalneavWow05:44
dgroosShe's a bit adventurous :)05:45
sbalneavU of Man's got a degree program she wants that U of Min doesn't?05:45
alkisgGood morning05:45
sbalneavMornig, alkisg05:46
dgroosWell, it's a long story, and kind of interesting--over that beer!05:46
dgroosGood evening/morning alkisg05:46
sbalneavWell, gimme a yell the NEXT time you're in town.05:46
dgroosFor sure.05:46
sbalneavI've been down a couple of times to Minneapolis for a Linux and Education conference that was held there a couple of times.05:47
sbalneavAnd, my buddy Jeremy White of Codeweavers/wine fame's down there.05:47
dgroos724-3595 give me a call :)05:47
* sbalneav writes down05:48
sbalneavk got it.05:48
dgroosI went to college with Jeremy though I only knew him through his fame as being pretty good at (read amazing) at math.05:48
sbalneavHe's a great guy.  And the work he's done with wine's fantastic05:49
sbalneavI buy a new copy of wine every year just to "kick in" :)05:49
dgrooscool.05:49
* sbalneav yawns05:49
sbalneavWell, that's enough looking at the handbook tonight.05:50
sbalneavTime for me to hit the sack so I can do it all over again tomorrow :)05:50
dgroosQuestion!05:50
sbalneavShoot05:50
sbalneavoh, btw05:50
dgroosIf I disable some game for a level1 user, that just means that it won't be available through GNOME, but he/she can still navigate to the exe and launch it from there, right?05:50
sbalneavltspthinclient.blogspot.com05:50
dgroosyour blog?  I'll check it out.05:51
sbalneavYeah, I don;t update very often. Like, 3 times a year is "a lot" for me :)05:51
sbalneavHm05:51
sbalneavI think that can be locked down...05:52
sbalneavone sec05:52
dgroosah, the dichotomy--do or write about doing...  I face that issue as well...05:52
sbalneavhttp://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/05:52
dgroosI'll check it out tomorrow!  I too need to get back to work--plone buildout config sheet.  thanks, and I'll put the blog on the list of reading material...05:53
dgroosNice!  I look forward to reading other entries as well.  Glad to hear that you're committing to continued fun with Sabayon :)05:56
dgrooshave a good eve, all.05:56
alkisgHmmm I wonder what happened with that qt greeter... "... and got a Qt greeter fleshed out."05:57
sbalneavalkisg: I know Ryan52 in #ltsp did some work with it.05:59
alkisgNot upstream yet, is it?05:59
sbalneavThese two guys showed up, "wrote it", then we never heard from them again.05:59
alkisgHeh. Yeah that's the curse of open source...06:00
sbalneavThere's a bzr branch of it somwhere, but it "wasnt quide done yet"06:00
sbalneavIf someone wants to pick it up...06:00
* alkisg has his hands full with a crazy fat clients implementation06:01
sbalneavNOW i'm going to head to bed.06:09
sbalneavFinish another couple of pages of Pynchons "The Crying of lot 49"06:10
sbalneavNight06:10
alkisgGood night sbalneav06:12
highvoltagegoodnight sbalneav06:22
highvoltagegood morning others who just got up :)06:22
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ace_suaresyep, awake11:37
ace_suareshi ubottu11:37
ace_suaresubottu: ping?11:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ping?11:38
ace_suaresOh well, that's not a real problem. Ping is a tool for diagnosing network issues on an TCP/IP network.11:38
ace_suaresubottu: so are you back from holiday /11:39
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:39
* ace_suares smiles at ubottu11:39
ace_suaresI like 'em dumb, and terminal...11:39
ace_suaresubottu: man, cool!11:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about man, cool!11:40
ace_suaresWell you should know something about man. Really, they're your only worthy opponent'11:40
ace_suaresI met a brother of yours last night, he was defending his base with lancer bunkers and came at me with assault canons. But I got him cornered eventually.11:41
ace_suaresubottu: brother?11:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about brother?11:41
ace_suaresWell he says you should call him, and he'd love when you'd drop by with your wife ubotta.11:41
ace_suaresHey gotta go now, some work to do.11:42
ace_suaresubottu: bye!11:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bye!11:42
ace_suaresYeah but I do really have to go.11:42
mhall119|workwow, sometime reading the scroll buffer, isn't at all what you expect13:43
highvolt1gemhall119|work: heh14:04
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highvoltagegoodnight edubuntuland!22:36
alkisgg'night highvoltage22:37

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