[03:37] <sbalneav> Evening all
[03:43] <ace_suares> hi sbalneav
[03:51] <sbalneav> Hey ace
[04:00] <ace_suares> wassup
[04:01] <sbalneav> Making a blog post.
[04:01] <sbalneav> It's been 9 or so months.
[04:01] <sbalneav> I'm about due :)
[04:04] <ace_suares> there's blogger and coders :-)
[04:06] <sbalneav> http://ltspthinclient.blogspot.com/
[04:06] <sbalneav> I code much more than I blog :)
[04:07] <ace_suares> yeah obviously
[04:07] <ace_suares> i wasted another 3 hrs playing a game
[04:07] <ace_suares> he he
[04:08] <sbalneav> Warzone?
[04:08] <ace_suares> yep
[04:08] <ace_suares> good post!
[04:08] <ace_suares> nicely written too
[04:09] <ace_suares> I just won so I am lookign around a bit and then sleep
[04:09] <sbalneav> Build machine gun bunkers to defend.  Research cannon tech until you get HPV's, build one command turret, and put the factories on auto-build of python hover HPV's.  PWN all enemies.
[04:09] <ace_suares> more or less accurate. I like vtols too ;-)
[04:10] <ace_suares> so you wasted a couple of hrs too uh...
[04:10] <ace_suares> man i had so much trouble with my machine for days
[04:10] <ace_suares> very strange i chnaged refresh rate on sytem monirot and everythign was fine again
[04:11] <ace_suares> unbelievable
[04:11] <sbalneav> I've been playing warzone 2100 since the game came out commercially.  I've been following the Gnu implemenation since day 1
[04:11] <sbalneav> I even contributed a couple of patches :)
[04:11] <ace_suares> ah we need to play online one day then :-)
[04:12] <sbalneav> Sure.  I'll probably get my *ss kicked since I've played the AI so long I know exactly how *little* I need to defend :)
[04:12] <ace_suares> r u going to linuxcon ?
[04:12] <sbalneav> Nah.  With the exception of BTS in late october, I'm conferenced out for the year.
[04:13] <ace_suares> oh i am still in the stage where I spread those red/gray rockets, then mortars around, just drag some trucks and then carpet bomb the enemy
[04:13] <sbalneav> FISL in Brazil, LinuxWorld in San Fran, and LTSP BTS in Maine.
[04:13] <ace_suares> I dislike the travel so you will see efforts from me to host any linux/ltsp/whatever con here in curacao :-)
[04:22] <ace_suares> hi dgroos
[04:22] <sbalneav> hello dgroos
[04:23] <ace_suares> sbalneav: damn, all the cookbook pages on the edubuntu wiki redirect to help.ubuntu.com !
[04:30] <ace_suares> ok i am off can't do much on the wiki now
[04:30] <ace_suares> see ya
[05:15] <dgroos> Hi ace_suares (ok, kinda post facto, I know :)
[05:16] <dgroos> and howdy, sbalneav.
[05:16] <sbalneav> _Userper_ pointed out a "potential" bug in Sabayon, but turns out it's not a bug
[05:17] <dgroos> I got iTALC fixed yesterday on the server and NX today--things are starting to look pretty...
[05:17] <dgroos> what was it?
[05:18] <dgroos> Now, if I can get my plone site upgraded and get CmapTools to work as localapp I'll be able to think about teaching!
[05:25] <sbalneav> dgroos: He disabled the command line, then wondered why he could still launch gnome-terminal
[05:26] <dgroos> sounds like a teacher ;)
[05:26] <sbalneav> but disabling the command line only stops the "command->run" interface from gnome.  If you want to disable the terminal, you have to remove it from the menus.
[05:26] <dgroos> (like me)
[05:26] <sbalneav> How's a kid supposed to *LEARN* anything if you don't give 'em the command lin?
[05:27] <dgroos> yea...
[05:28] <sbalneav> When I was in grade 10, I had my first "official" computer course.
[05:28] <sbalneav> I had build my own computer from a kit (a ZX-81) in grade 8.
[05:28] <sbalneav> I sat right in the front row, and all during the first class, I corrected the teacher on his syntax errors.
[05:29] <sbalneav> "Mr. Friesen, you need a NEXT N there. Mr. Friesen, you need a semicolon there." etc.
[05:29] <dgroos> Cool, and hopefully the teacher appreciated and took advantage of this young teacher!
[05:30] <sbalneav> After 2 more classes of this, he took me aside, asked me a couple of questions, and determined I knew more about BASIC programming than he did. :)
[05:30] <dgroos> and then did he put you to profitable use--ie profitable for your education and others?
[05:30] <sbalneav> He said "We have this new thing called a "glass tty" connected to something called "unix", maybe you'd like to play with that for the rest of the year"
[05:31] <sbalneav> This was in 1984
[05:31] <dgroos> cool :)
[05:31] <sbalneav> And the rest, as they say, is history.
[05:32] <dgroos> nice.  Ever contact Mr. F. and let him know what you do, that you program for education on your own time?
[05:33] <sbalneav> Personally, if it were me, I'd let the kids have the command line.  Those who don't figure it out can keep plinking away in the gui.  Those who manage to trash their home directory, or start poking around in /usr/sbin get to check out a copy of "Programming in Python" or "Shell scripting basics", and full marks for the year :)
[05:33] <sbalneav> I did, years ago.  He passed away about 10 years back.
[05:34] <sbalneav> At that point, I was still working for the University of Winnipeg.
[05:34] <dgroos> Down town...
[05:34] <sbalneav> I've taught classes, but never to grade school kids.  Only either uni students or adults.
[05:34] <dgroos> My daughters heading to U of M in 10 days :)
[05:35] <dgroos> will be a 'frosh'.
[05:35] <sbalneav> Which faculty?
[05:36] <dgroos> Well, she want to study Eastern European history, though not sure that answers your question?
[05:38] <sbalneav> Ah, so she'll probably spend a chunk of time in Fletcher Argue
[05:39] <sbalneav> I spent most of my uni years hanging out in windy hall in the basement of armes. :)
[05:40] <dgroos> Fletcher Argue?  sounds like someone who makes arrows would do in a disagreement ;)
[05:40] <dgroos> So you went to U of M?
[05:40] <sbalneav> Yup
[05:40] <sbalneav> 86-90
[05:40] <dgroos> She's very excited.
[05:40] <sbalneav> Yeah, University's a lot of fun.
[05:40] <sbalneav> Lots of new things to learn, people to meet.
[05:41] <dgroos> anyway, I'm sure I'll get a chance to buy you that beer I mentioned a while ago, though not this trip next weekend. :)
[05:42] <sbalneav> You live in winnipeg proper, or out of town?
[05:42] <sbalneav> I'm in South St. Vital.
[05:43] <sbalneav> Gimme a yell at work if you're ever passing by.  985-5249
[05:43] <dgroos> Well, actually i live in Minnesota,
[05:43] <sbalneav> Oh!
[05:43] <dgroos> and yes, I will!
[05:43] <sbalneav> U of M = University of Minnesota!
[05:43] <dgroos> (Minneapolis to be specific)
[05:44] <sbalneav> Thought you meant university of Manitoba :) lol
[05:44] <dgroos> No, U of M = University of Manitoba!
[05:44] <sbalneav> So she's coming to OUR u of M instead of yours?
[05:44] <dgroos> She's going to go to school in your country, not mine :)
[05:44] <sbalneav> Wow
[05:45] <dgroos> She's a bit adventurous :)
[05:45] <sbalneav> U of Man's got a degree program she wants that U of Min doesn't?
[05:45] <alkisg> Good morning
[05:46] <sbalneav> Mornig, alkisg
[05:46] <dgroos> Well, it's a long story, and kind of interesting--over that beer!
[05:46] <dgroos> Good evening/morning alkisg
[05:46] <sbalneav> Well, gimme a yell the NEXT time you're in town.
[05:46] <dgroos> For sure.
[05:47] <sbalneav> I've been down a couple of times to Minneapolis for a Linux and Education conference that was held there a couple of times.
[05:47] <sbalneav> And, my buddy Jeremy White of Codeweavers/wine fame's down there.
[05:47] <dgroos> 724-3595 give me a call :)
[05:48]  * sbalneav writes down
[05:48] <sbalneav> k got it.
[05:48] <dgroos> I went to college with Jeremy though I only knew him through his fame as being pretty good at (read amazing) at math.
[05:49] <sbalneav> He's a great guy.  And the work he's done with wine's fantastic
[05:49] <sbalneav> I buy a new copy of wine every year just to "kick in" :)
[05:49] <dgroos> cool.
[05:49]  * sbalneav yawns
[05:50] <sbalneav> Well, that's enough looking at the handbook tonight.
[05:50] <sbalneav> Time for me to hit the sack so I can do it all over again tomorrow :)
[05:50] <dgroos> Question!
[05:50] <sbalneav> Shoot
[05:50] <sbalneav> oh, btw
[05:50] <dgroos> If I disable some game for a level1 user, that just means that it won't be available through GNOME, but he/she can still navigate to the exe and launch it from there, right?
[05:50] <sbalneav> ltspthinclient.blogspot.com
[05:51] <dgroos> your blog?  I'll check it out.
[05:51] <sbalneav> Yeah, I don;t update very often. Like, 3 times a year is "a lot" for me :)
[05:51] <sbalneav> Hm
[05:52] <sbalneav> I think that can be locked down...
[05:52] <sbalneav> one sec
[05:52] <dgroos> ah, the dichotomy--do or write about doing...  I face that issue as well...
[05:52] <sbalneav> http://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/
[05:53] <dgroos> I'll check it out tomorrow!  I too need to get back to work--plone buildout config sheet.  thanks, and I'll put the blog on the list of reading material...
[05:56] <dgroos> Nice!  I look forward to reading other entries as well.  Glad to hear that you're committing to continued fun with Sabayon :)
[05:56] <dgroos> have a good eve, all.
[05:57] <alkisg> Hmmm I wonder what happened with that qt greeter... "... and got a Qt greeter fleshed out."
[05:59] <sbalneav> alkisg: I know Ryan52 in #ltsp did some work with it.
[05:59] <alkisg> Not upstream yet, is it?
[05:59] <sbalneav> These two guys showed up, "wrote it", then we never heard from them again.
[06:00] <alkisg> Heh. Yeah that's the curse of open source...
[06:00] <sbalneav> There's a bzr branch of it somwhere, but it "wasnt quide done yet"
[06:00] <sbalneav> If someone wants to pick it up...
[06:01]  * alkisg has his hands full with a crazy fat clients implementation
[06:09] <sbalneav> NOW i'm going to head to bed.
[06:10] <sbalneav> Finish another couple of pages of Pynchons "The Crying of lot 49"
[06:10] <sbalneav> Night
[06:12] <alkisg> Good night sbalneav
[06:22] <highvoltage> goodnight sbalneav
[06:22] <highvoltage> good morning others who just got up :)
[11:37] <ace_suares> yep, awake
[11:37] <ace_suares> hi ubottu
[11:38] <ace_suares> ubottu: ping?
[11:38] <ace_suares> Oh well, that's not a real problem. Ping is a tool for diagnosing network issues on an TCP/IP network.
[11:39] <ace_suares> ubottu: so are you back from holiday /
[11:39]  * ace_suares smiles at ubottu
[11:39] <ace_suares> I like 'em dumb, and terminal...
[11:40] <ace_suares> ubottu: man, cool!
[11:40] <ace_suares> Well you should know something about man. Really, they're your only worthy opponent'
[11:41] <ace_suares> I met a brother of yours last night, he was defending his base with lancer bunkers and came at me with assault canons. But I got him cornered eventually.
[11:41] <ace_suares> ubottu: brother?
[11:41] <ace_suares> Well he says you should call him, and he'd love when you'd drop by with your wife ubotta.
[11:42] <ace_suares> Hey gotta go now, some work to do.
[11:42] <ace_suares> ubottu: bye!
[11:42] <ace_suares> Yeah but I do really have to go.
[13:43] <mhall119|work> wow, sometime reading the scroll buffer, isn't at all what you expect
[14:04] <highvolt1ge> mhall119|work: heh
[22:36] <highvoltage> goodnight edubuntuland!
[22:37] <alkisg> g'night highvoltage