[00:14] <persia> I just received a message telling me that the edge server has a lower timeout, and I might want to use the regular server, except I was using the regular server, and as far as I can tell, I'm not a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team (which the message suggests I am).  This is related to OOPS-1334A3184
[00:14] <wgrant> persia: i filed a bug about that a monthish ago.
[00:14] <persia> Is this a known bug of some sort, just my misunderstanding, or something to report?
[00:14] <wgrant> There's some inverted logic in the timeout template JS.
[00:14] <persia> wgrant, Ah.  Thanks.  I';; ignore it.
[00:15] <wgrant> Bug #403863
[00:16] <persia> Ah, yes.  (A && B) is (!A || !B) rather than !(A || B).
[00:17] <persia> Err, rather ! ( !A || !B )
[00:17] <wgrant> Yep.
[00:21] <radix> man we need some schematic tables in our programming languages
[00:24] <MTeck> Is there any chance of adding the Drupal bug tracker?
[00:24] <jamalta> out of curiosity, is it at all possible to host proprietary projects in launchpad?
[00:24] <jamalta> or will it be?
[00:25] <intellectronica> jamalta: yes, it's possible
[00:25] <wgrant> https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208
[00:25] <intellectronica> jamalta: if you're interested, inquire with bac
[00:26] <intellectronica> is that the correct spelling?
[00:26] <jamalta> intellectronica: ah, i found this about it https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208
[00:26] <jamalta> thank you
[00:31] <idnar> what's the status of the beta program?
[00:34] <wgrant> idnar: Which? edge.launchpad.net, the API, or something else?
[00:39] <idnar> the one referred to in that FAQ entry
[00:41] <wgrant> bac: ^^
[05:07] <jtv> matsubara-afk: I may have mentioned it, but I'm a House MD fan.  There's one on now.  But the _only_ time they show episodes I haven't seen yet is Monday night, during the UI calls.
[05:10] <mkanat> jtv: You could watch it on Hulu.
[05:10] <mkanat> Oh, they don't have new episodes yet, do they.
[05:11] <jtv> mkanat: I don't think hulu works here....  I'm lucky to get YouTube sometimes
[05:11] <mkanat> Ah.
[05:11] <jtv> Although it's not actually blocked by the government (until some local competitor posts something to insult the king I guess)
[05:12] <wgrant> Hulu's restricted to the US, isn't it?
[05:12] <wgrant> I know it's not usable from here...
[05:12] <jtv> wgrant: the site works; I think it's just a matter of performance.
[05:13] <wgrant> "Sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed from within the United States "
[05:13] <jtv> Ah, yes.  I just never got this far.  :)
[05:14] <jtv> Oh well, at least they realize there are countries outside the US.  Unlike some "international" sites that require your address to contain a State.
[05:14] <wgrant> Yes...
[05:14] <jtv> Or even more frequently: that don't accept international notation of telephone numbers
[05:15] <jtv> Amazing how many of those sites will accept whitespace as a State though
[05:16] <ovnicraft> hi folks i want to change logo for my project how i can do this?
[05:18] <wgrant> ovnicraft: https://launchpad.net/yourproject/+branding
[05:18] <wgrant> Or, if you are click-inclined, go to your project, click 'Change details', then the 'Branding' tab.
[05:28] <mwhudson> i think new zealand has postcodes almost entirely so you can put them in forms on the web
[05:47] <thumper> mwhudson: :)
[05:47] <thumper> mwhudson: actually if you're a business you used to get a discount if you used them, now you *have* to use them
[05:50] <jml> mwhudson, whereas the UK has postcodes simply as a quaint and quirky gimmick for tourists.
[05:50] <jml> they always strike me as being vaguely steampunk.
[05:50] <mwhudson> jml: in the uk, a postcode gets you down to the level of a handful of houses
[05:51] <mwhudson> here, it's about half a town
[05:51] <mwhudson> (and occasionally, half a town is more than a handful of houses, not always, i guess)
[05:52] <thumper> mtaylor: since it's slightly more relevant I'll talk here
[05:52] <thumper> mtaylor: I've been meaning to reply to your email on launchpad-users
[05:52] <thumper> mtaylor: I'm going to get a wiki page going about the upcoming changes to the code review process
[05:53] <thumper> mtaylor: both those for 3.0 (fingers crossed), and proposed
[05:53] <mtaylor> thumper: ooh, great. I spend about half of my day doing reviews/merges, so I'm all ears!
[05:53] <thumper> mtaylor: are you on the launchpad-dev mailing list?
[05:53] <thumper> I ended up covering a lot there
[05:53] <mtaylor> um...nope
[05:53] <mtaylor> just on launchpad-users
[05:53] <thumper> but I don't want to repeat myself
[05:53] <thumper> so
[05:53] <thumper> wiki is best I think
[05:53] <thumper> I'll reply to your post with a wiki link
[05:54] <mtaylor> sweet
[05:54] <thumper> where I'll dump stuff
[05:54] <thumper> feel free to annotate the wiki when its there
[05:54] <mtaylor> I'll be sure to include jay in the discussion too (the other drizzle merge guy)
[05:54] <thumper> s/wiki/wiki page/
[05:54] <thumper> mtaylor: so, how likely really is it that you'll get to kiwipycon?
[05:55] <mtaylor> (just opening calendar now)
[05:55] <mtaylor> DAMMIT
[05:55] <mtaylor> I'm booked that weekend (double booked, actually)
[05:55] <mtaylor> darn, that would have been fun
[05:55] <thumper> mtaylor: anything you can cancel or reschedule?
[05:56] <mtaylor> no. it's a show opening and then a 40th birthday celebration for a family member :(
[05:56] <thumper> ah
[05:56] <thumper> oh well
[05:56] <mtaylor> any chance you're coming to LCA?
[05:56] <thumper> you'll miss my cool keynote on Launchpad
[05:56] <thumper> mtaylor: definitly
[05:56] <mtaylor> sweet
[05:56] <mtaylor> cause I'll definitely be there...
[05:56] <thumper> mtaylor: may be giving a talk there, still waiting on confirmation
[05:57] <mtaylor> I keep missing the launchpad related talks places
[05:57] <mtaylor> yeah, same here
[05:57] <thumper> mtaylor: well, one of my proposed talks was using LP for code reviews
[05:57] <mtaylor> I submitted one on "why stewart smith is wrong about c++" ...
[05:57] <thumper> not sure how likely it is that one will be accepted though
[05:57] <thumper> who is stewart smith?
[05:57] <mtaylor> current president of linux australia
[05:58] <thumper> and what does he say about C++?
[05:58] <mtaylor> oh, he's a big-time C guy
[05:58] <mtaylor> so it's fun to poke at the displeasure
[05:58] <thumper> so he doesn't like C++?
[05:59] <mtaylor> he thinks the ways in which it isn't C are all evil and wrong
[05:59] <thumper> heh
[05:59] <thumper> I wouldn't like to go back to C after my time with C++
[05:59] <mtaylor> nope. me either
[05:59] <thumper> but saying that, for most work, I'd rather stay with python
[05:59] <mtaylor> well, yes. there is that
[05:59] <mtaylor> although I'm still carping about print() vs. print
[05:59] <thumper> although occasionally I get a hankering to write some C++
[06:00] <mtaylor> (in 3.0)
[06:00] <thumper> functions are good
[06:00] <mtaylor> the compiler errors/warnings are nice
[06:00] <mtaylor> in C++
[06:00] <mtaylor> that's the thing I miss the most in python dev these days
[06:00] <thumper> mtaylor: do much template programming?
[06:00] <thumper> mtaylor: because those errors suck
[06:00] <mtaylor> yeah... so _nice_ maybe isn't the right word
[06:00] <mtaylor> :)
[06:01] <mtaylor> and yeah - functions are good -but I've got 10 years of muscle memory typing print "foo %s" % bar
[06:01] <thumper> hmm
[06:02] <mtaylor> well... I'm sure I'll get over it
[06:02] <thumper> I'm about to have to retrain my fingers out of 11 years of UK keyboard muscle memory
[06:02] <thumper> as my new laptop has a US one
[06:02] <mtaylor> oh my
[06:02] <thumper> @ vs "
[06:02] <thumper> £ vs #
[06:02] <thumper> ¬ vs ~
[06:02] <wgrant> thumper: Huh, why did you have a UK keyboard
[06:02] <wgrant> Do they use them in NZ?
[06:02] <mtaylor> I've had to work on swedish and german before - it's ... interesting
[06:02] <thumper> wgrant: because I lived in the UK for 8 years
[06:02] <wgrant> thumper: Ah.
[06:03] <thumper> and been in NZ for almost 3 now
[06:03] <thumper> but haven't needed to buy any more keyboards
[06:03] <thumper> 7 of the 8 keyboards in the house are UK
[06:04] <thumper> mtaylor: do you know about the person product pages?
[06:04] <mtaylor> thumper: no...
[06:04] <thumper> mtaylor: so https://code.launchpad.net/~mtaylor/drizzle
[06:04] <mtaylor> what are those?
[06:04] <thumper> kinda hacky right now
[06:05] <thumper> not linked from anything yet
[06:05] <thumper> hmm, you aren't mtaylor on lp
[06:05] <mtaylor> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mordred/drizzle
[06:05] <thumper> you'll need a code in there I think
[06:05] <mtaylor> so, ~mordred/drizzle redirects me instantly to ~mordred/drizzle/pandora-build
[06:06] <mtaylor> I wonder if that's brower fail
[06:06] <thumper> I get a 404
[06:06] <thumper> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mordred/drizzle
[06:06] <mtaylor> yup.
[06:06] <mtaylor> that's awesome
[06:06] <thumper> no other apps yet support it, but we are pushing it along
[06:06] <mtaylor> I've been wanting that for a while
[06:06] <thumper> I'm just adding +activereviews for that
[06:07] <thumper> and some other goodness
[06:07] <mtaylor> sweet. it'll be nice for bugs and blueprints too
[06:07] <thumper> when we get them, yes
[06:07] <mtaylor> but yeah - cause that would actually be what I normally want in activereviews land
[06:08] <mtaylor> I _really_ need to retire some of those branches :)
[06:10] <thumper> mtaylor: the normal active reviews on a project should be close
[06:10] <thumper> mtaylor: what do you want?
[06:10] <mtaylor> it is
[06:11] <mtaylor> hrm.
[06:11]  * mtaylor is now looking back and forth at the two
[06:11] <mtaylor> I usually use project/+activereviews
[06:13] <mtaylor> interesting. I hadn't really looked at ~mordred/+activereviews closely before.
[06:13] <jml> it may have changed since you last looked :)
[06:14] <mtaylor> :)
[06:16] <mtaylor> so actually, I think drizzle/+activereviews is about what I need it to be
[06:20] <thumper> mtaylor: cool
[06:20] <mtaylor> I mean, other than all the things from the email :)
[06:20] <mtaylor> but that doesn't really have anything to do with that page
[06:25] <thumper> mtaylor: biggest change coming soon to a page near you is diffs that update on push
[06:25] <mtaylor> thumper: WOOT
[06:25] <mtaylor> thumper: now that _will_ be exciting
[06:25] <wgrant> and confusing :/
[06:26] <thumper> wgrant: hopefully not too confusing
[06:26] <thumper> I want new revisions also showing in the conversation
[06:26] <wgrant> Ahh.
[06:26] <thumper> like bug status changes
[06:26] <wgrant> Bonus points for linking to the old diffs there too.
[06:26] <thumper> wgrant: we'll link to the revision in codebrowse
[06:27] <mtaylor> that and a simpler way to say "hey, guys, this is ready to be looked at again, I've addressed your concerns" and we'll be golden I think
[06:27] <thumper> wgrant: we also want to add footers to the comments
[06:27] <thumper> wgrant: that'll say if the comment is on an old diff
[06:27] <thumper> wgrant: we'll try to get a nice way to view it
[06:27] <thumper> mtaylor: part of that may still be resubmit
[06:27] <thumper> mtaylor: but we're working on a nicer workflow
[06:28] <thumper> mtaylor: so the conversation from superceded proposals will show on the new one
[06:28] <thumper> mtaylor: footer with details
[06:28] <thumper> mtaylor: old reviews go to pending
[06:28] <mtaylor> thumper: that'll be great
[06:28] <thumper> something like that
[06:29] <thumper> mtaylor: I'm going to write all this on the wiki page
[06:29] <thumper> mtaylor: and we should be able to link to bugs, and show progress so you'll be able to see how close we are to review nirvana
[06:30] <mtaylor> mmm
[06:31] <mtaylor> sort of off topic, but is lp ever going to be an openid consumer? or will it just remain a provider?
[06:31] <thumper> there are some internal arguements
[06:32] <thumper> I think there'd still need to be a LP identity for the person
[06:32] <thumper> mtaylor: this is more a question for flacoste
[06:32] <thumper> mtaylor: I know it has been talked about
[06:32] <thumper> mtaylor: but I don't know the current blockers on it
[06:32] <mtaylor> well, I don't mind having a launchpad id
[06:32] <thumper> mtaylor: whether technical or people
[06:33] <mtaylor> but I'd love to be able to do the login/auth with my openid server
[06:34] <mtaylor> thumper: I hadn't even thought about the possibility of non-launchpad users using openid to interact with things without an account
[07:16] <shiki-> hi all
[07:17] <shiki-> I made a new PPA for LXDE.. thats ok. I uploaded lxpanel and then I saw it wont compile without menu-cache. Ok. Uploaded it, then clicked on retry build.. and it says "Waiting for superseded Source".. that means?
[07:18] <wgrant> shiki-: 'Build for superseded Source', you mean?
[07:18] <shiki-> yeah (sorry)
[07:19] <wgrant> Link to the PPA?
[07:19] <shiki-> https://launchpad.net/~shiki/+archive/lxde
[07:19] <wgrant> shiki-: Ah, I see what you've done.
[07:19] <wgrant> An upload creates new builds.
[07:19] <shiki-> a mess ? :)
[07:19] <wgrant> so you didn't need to retry the old one.
[07:20] <wgrant> But when you did retry the old one, it saw that it was superseded by the new one.
[07:20] <wgrant> so it decided it wasn't worth building.
[07:20] <wgrant> so don't worry about it.
[07:20] <shiki-> ah.. so..delete the lxpanel and reupload it?
[07:20] <wgrant> No.
[07:20] <wgrant> No need.
[07:20] <shiki-> then?
[07:20] <wgrant> It's all built fine.
[07:20] <shiki-> then how will I get lxpanel?
[07:20] <shiki-> but there is no lxpanel package..
[07:20] <wgrant> Look in your PPA -- it's there.
[07:21] <wgrant> (notice the green tick)
[07:21] <shiki-> yeah its at menu-cache
[07:21] <wgrant> Oh.
[07:21] <wgrant> Oops.
[07:21] <shiki-> :)
[07:21] <wgrant> You seem to have deleted lxpanel. Why?
[07:21] <shiki-> I didnt
[07:22] <wgrant> "Deleted on 2009-08-25 by Zsolt Peter Basak"
[07:22] <shiki-> huh?
[07:22] <shiki-> I only clicked on retry
[07:22] <shiki-> why would I delete them?
[07:22] <wgrant> No idea. But it certainly looks like you explicitly deleted it before retrying.
[07:22] <shiki-> hmm..strange
[07:22] <shiki-> well
[07:23] <shiki-> reboot and reupload it (I had some job here on the other OS)
[07:23] <shiki-> brb
[07:23] <wgrant> No.
[07:23] <shiki-> ty for the help
[07:23] <wgrant> No need to reupload.
[07:23] <shiki-> ?
[07:23] <shiki-> ARGL
[07:23] <wgrant> Click on 'Copy packages'.
[07:23] <wgrant> You can undelete it.
[07:23] <shiki-> ah
[07:23] <wgrant> Search for it (you might need to change the selector from 'Published' to 'Any status')
[07:23] <shiki-> ok
[07:23] <shiki-> pending
[07:23] <shiki-> it was in superseded
[07:24] <wgrant> Yep.
[07:24] <shiki-> well
[07:24] <wgrant> OK.
[07:24] <shiki-> g2g..bbl/brb
[07:24] <shiki-> thank you
[07:24] <wgrant> Now retry those three builds.
[07:24] <wgrant> And it will build.
[07:24] <wgrant> Damn.
[08:16] <micahg> is it better to make another ppa or to ask for a quota increase?
[08:17] <noodles775> micahg: it's always good to keep PPAs focused, so if it's for un-related packages, I'd definitely suggest another PPA, otherwise if they're related, a quota increase.
[08:18] <micahg> ok
[08:18] <micahg> I create a new one :)
[08:18] <micahg> now do I just move stuff over?
[08:18] <wgrant> 'Copy packages' on the old one.
[08:19] <wgrant> Then select the packages, and the new PPA.
[08:19] <micahg> do I need to copy source?
[08:19] <wgrant> You have to
[08:19] <wgrant> How would you just copy binaries?
[08:19] <micahg> there's an option in edge now :)
[08:20] <wgrant> you mean the rebuild vs. don't?
[08:20] <wgrant> That selects whether to copy the binaries *as well*.
[08:22] <micahg> oh, so if I select the second option, it copies source and binaries?
[08:22] <shiki-> back
[08:23] <wgrant> shiki-: Did you retry those builds?
[08:23] <wgrant> micahg: Yes.
[08:23] <wgrant> micahg: It always copies source.
[08:23] <shiki-> wgrant, its ok now I guess (I had to go to the bank)
[08:23] <shiki-> published..both. Ty
[08:23] <micahg> wgrant: should I try to stop the rebuilds or just let it happen now?
[08:23] <wgrant> shiki-: Not quite.
[08:23] <wgrant> shiki-: The sources are published.
[08:24] <wgrant> shiki-: But you need to retry the builds.
[08:24] <shiki-> ah
[08:24] <shiki-> well
[08:24] <shiki-> it wont let me oO
[08:26] <micahg> wgrant: also, can I now delete the packages from my original ppa?
[08:27] <wgrant> shiki-: Hm, you're right. You can't retry superseded builds. That policy was probably implemented before you could undelete packages.
[08:27] <wgrant> micahg: 'Delete packages' on the original PPA.
[08:27] <wgrant> shiki-: You might have to increase the version number and upload again.
[08:27]  * wgrant files a bug.
[08:27] <shiki-> okkay.. ty
[08:28]  * wgrant disappears.
[08:38] <shiki-> hmm...
[08:38] <shiki-> accepted the new *ppa2* package, but it still shows the *ppa1*.. should I delete the ppa1?
[08:39] <shiki-> okay..some problem with the packages.. I'll manage it
[08:39] <shiki-> "launchbar.c:35:24: error: menu-cache.h: No such file or directory"...strange that its uploaded to my ppa
[08:42] <noodles775> shiki-: the ppa1 package should be superseded automatically by the ppa2 package?
[08:43] <shiki-> itsok now
[08:43] <shiki-> I did an epic mistake :)
[09:39] <mac_v> hi... when a new branch is created how do i make the branch private?
[10:23] <thumper> mac_v: right now you have to pay for that option
[10:23] <thumper> mac_v: I'm considering changing things for security branches
[10:23] <thumper> mac_v: but on the whole, LP is public
[10:24] <mac_v> oh.. ok.
[10:24] <mac_v> thumper: how do i start to upload to a branch?
[10:24] <mac_v> which i'v created?
[10:24] <thumper> bzr push
[10:25] <mac_v> that didnt work , does the folder have to be labelled similar?
[10:25] <wgrant> mac_v: No. What was the error message?
[10:27] <mac_v> wgrant: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/vis/Documents/LP_Branch/".
[10:27] <wgrant> mac_v: Well, you can't push a bzr branch that doesn't exist...
[10:27] <wgrant> 'bzr init'
[10:27] <wgrant> But maybe read the guide.
[10:27]  * wgrant finds the link.
[10:27] <mac_v> ah... thanx
[10:28] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/QuickStart
[10:28] <mac_v> wgrant: thanks :)
[10:43] <Alexia> I cant reset my password on launchpad
[10:43] <Alexia> it is giving me the following error
[10:43] <Alexia> Your account details have not been found. Please check your subscription email address and try again.
[10:44] <Alexia> and I tried to create a new account but was given this error
[10:44] <wgrant> Alexia: Try resetting it at login.launchpad.net instead.
[10:44] <Alexia> The email address is already registered in the Launchpad Login Service (used by the Ubuntu shop and other OpenID sites). Please use the same email and password to log into Launchpad.
[10:44] <Alexia> ok
[10:44] <wgrant> Some accounts need to have their passwords reset there for now.
[10:44] <wgrant> But once you've reset it, you can log in normally.
[10:47] <Alexia> Ok thanks
[10:47] <Alexia> worked perfect
[11:18] <shiki-> okay.. Im in a pinch....
[11:19] <shiki-> already using "ppa4" version, yet it says its accepted, yet it wont show it, yet I cant delete it, yet it wont upload it
[11:19] <shiki-> ARGL :/
[11:24] <wgrant> shiki-: What's saying it's accepted?
[11:24] <shiki-> it said accepted.. yet I didnt see it
[11:24] <wgrant> What said? An email?
[11:24] <shiki-> now, it wont accept even if I raise the version number
[11:24] <wgrant> 'wont accept'?
[11:27] <shiki-> uhm..rejected
[11:29] <wgrant> With what message?
[11:32] <shiki-> already been accepted
[11:33] <shiki-> but thats it...its not there (maybe my fault again.. but beats me where did I make a mistake)
[11:43] <shiki-> nvm.. i'll delete the ppa, get the karmic packages, modify/check/test them and upload/build them for 9.04-8.04
[11:47] <bigjools> shiki-: it was probably superseded
[11:47] <bigjools> change your filter
[11:48] <shiki-> tried that also
[11:51] <shiki-> okay.. my last question..how to delete my ppa? :))
[11:51] <bigjools> why do you want to do that?
[11:51] <shiki-> well.. I want to restart this lxde project from scracth
[11:51] <bigjools> sorry to sound repetitive, why?
[11:52] <shiki-> well.. I change my strategy from building the packages from 0 to building them from Karmic's repo.
[11:53] <bigjools> sorry I don't follow, "from 0" ?
[11:53] <shiki-> from scratch, from zero
[11:53] <bigjools> you want to copy packages from karmic into your ppa?
[11:53] <shiki-> yepp..
[11:54] <shiki-> well.. "copy"...
[11:54] <shiki-> get them down, check the "debian" part, modify it if I have to and then... I need these packages for 9.04, 8.10 and 8.04
[11:54] <bigjools> to clarify, upload a slightly changed version?
[11:54] <bigjools> ok
[11:55] <bigjools> LP doesn't support deletion of PPAs very well yet, but we can disable it if you file a question on the Launchpad project
[11:55] <shiki-> well.. one guy already sent me an email when will the repo work...so if I could delete EVERYTHING from there it'd be also OK
[11:56] <bigjools> you can delete but it remembers previously uploaded versions so you can never upload them again
[11:56] <shiki-> ah..ok..then I'll file a question :)
[11:56] <bigjools> why can't you bump the versions though?@
[11:57] <shiki-> I can...but...
[11:57] <shiki-> well..I'll try to do that
[11:57] <shiki-> sheesh
[11:57] <bigjools> that's surely easier
[12:21] <geser> shiki-: what's your PPA and which package you try to upload to it?
[12:21] <shiki-> geser, I'll solve it somehow
[12:21] <shiki-> :)
[14:48] <nfilus> Hi
[14:48] <nfilus> I need help in setting up lp translations
[14:49] <intellectronica> nfilus: danilos or henninge_ should be able to help
[14:50] <nfilus> intellectronica: can I ask them here in the channel or by direct IM?
[14:51] <danilos> nfilus: here is fine
[14:51] <nfilus> hi danilos
[14:51] <danilos> nfilus: hi, so, what's going on?
[14:51] <nfilus> danilos: the project is centreon (maybe you remember my last questions)
[14:52] <nfilus> can I setup a different repository as source for trans imports?
[14:52] <nfilus> I mean we have 1 subversion for translations and 1 main code subversion server
[14:53] <nfilus> or is there a way to move to bazaar an let it recreate the templates on regular basis as we do now with a cron on our local server
[15:00] <danilos> nfilus: you can't have multiple imports right now, as far as I know
[15:01] <nfilus> danilos: how can we move to bazaar for auto-merging of newest strings and newest translations?
[15:02] <danilos> nfilus: I have a call right now, it should be done in about 1h, can you please hold on for that
[15:02] <nfilus> I have to leave in 45min, I will come back tomorrow
[15:03] <nfilus> danilos: thank you for the help
[15:03] <danilos> nfilus: sure
[15:51] <allenap> danilos: Fancy taking a stab at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/81108?
[15:54] <danilos> allenap: heh, I can't really decipher weird English either :)
[15:55] <danilos> allenap: anyway, it's probably a question about a string in particular program, and not anything related to LP
[15:55] <allenap> danilos: Ah, I *think* he's saying that the program has a mistake in the original string.
[15:55] <danilos> allenap: exactly, a typo (s/keyboard/clipboard/)
[15:55] <allenap> danilos: I'll ask him to file a bug against mint thingy.
[15:55] <danilos> allenap: yeah, that's right :)
[16:38] <fta2> bigjools, no offense intended for the dbgsym thing
[16:38] <bigjools> none taken
[16:39] <bigjools> there have been a very unfortunate set of circumstances that delayed this feature, not to mention it's really very non-trivial
[16:39] <mneptok> bigjools: you smell, and your mother dresses you funny.
[16:39] <mneptok> (no offense)
[16:40] <fta2> bigjools, my comment was just to mention that even if i'm an heavy consumer of dbg packages, i no longer need those dbgsyms as i had to workaround them
[16:40]  * bigjools farts in mneptok's face
[16:40]  * mneptok sniffs.
[16:40] <mneptok> mmmmm .... peanuts.
[16:41] <mneptok> fta2: at this point, i think you're pretty much assured of not offending bigjools no matter *what* you say about dbgsysms ;)
[16:41] <bigjools> fta2: no worries, it'll get done, but the guy who maintained the buildds left ...
[16:41] <fta2> bigjools, and i also didn't appreciate the "lets wait for 3.0" and target for an arbitrary 3.1.10
[16:42] <bigjools> fta2: it's not arbitrary at all
[16:43] <fta2> maybe, but in the bug, it seems arbitrary, at least for an outsider like me
[17:01] <AnAnt> Hello, something seems to be wrong with the buildds in karmic
[17:02] <AnAnt> I am building a package (wine1.2) for karmic, and it fails with this error:
[17:02] <AnAnt> The following packages have unmet dependencies: docbook-utils: Depends: jadetex but it is not going to be installed
[17:02] <AnAnt> E: Broken packages
[17:02] <AnAnt> yet it builds well on my machine ( I use pbuilder for building)
[17:03] <AnAnt> here's the build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30853810/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.wine1.2_1.1.27-0ubuntu2%2Bsabily1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:06] <bigjools> AnAnt: I am checking for you
[17:07] <AnAnt> thanks
[17:23] <bigjools> AnAnt: can you retry the build and see if it fails the same way?  it might be a transient issue
[17:23] <AnAnt> bigjools: I am
[17:27] <bigjools> AnAnt: for reference, I am using chdist to track this down
[17:28] <bigjools> it might be that the required package versions are not published yet
[17:33] <mzz> I think I'm just misreading this, but does "We will not accept uploads of packages that are unmodified from their original source in Ubuntu or Debian" mean I can't use a ppa for backports that don't need any source changes?
[17:34] <bigjools> mzz: backports are fine, you could use the webservice API to copy the package to your PPA and rebuild it for a different series
[17:36] <mzz> thanks, just making sure I wasn't accidentally violating the terms of use :)
[17:40] <AnAnt> bigjools: I checked using rmadison
[17:53] <exarkun> I keep getting 502 Bad Gateway when trying to check out a bzr branch.
[17:55] <exarkun> Lately Launchpad hasn't been reliable enough that I actually want to keep hosting my code on it.  Every time I sit down to do some development, I have to stop because I can't actually get my source to where it needs to be.
[17:57] <exarkun> A week ago when this came up I filed #417008.  No one has commented on it.
[18:06] <AnAnt> bigjools: build failed again: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30907706/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.wine1.2_1.1.27-0ubuntu2%2Bsabily2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:07] <AnAnt> bigjools: I've been trying this for 3 days btw
[18:08] <bigjools> AnAnt: I drilled down to two packages that it won't install, libkpathsea4 (>= 2007) and texlive-base (>= 2008)
[18:08] <AnAnt> oh
[18:08] <AnAnt> that seems a problem in my own PPA
[18:08] <AnAnt> I was trying to build a pre-release of texlive2009
[18:09] <bigjools> 2009~svn14580-1~1 is in karmic
[18:09] <AnAnt> ok, sorry for bothering you
[18:10] <bigjools> no prob, glad to help
[18:10] <AnAnt> bigjools: yeah, but it might have some dependencies that aren't in karmic
[18:10] <AnAnt> bigjools: also, I remember that there was a failed build of a TL2009 package
[18:10] <AnAnt> thanks
[20:50] <kfogel> Anyone else able to reach http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kfogel/launchpad/ml-archiver-ui/revision/8688 ?
[20:50] <kfogel> I get timeout every time.
[20:50] <kfogel> well, "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. "
[20:52] <micahg> kfogel: nope
[20:52] <kfogel> micahg: I can't help but notice you're online through onshore.com.  I used to work there.
[20:53] <kfogel> funny!
[20:53] <micahg> indeed
[20:53] <kfogel> anyway, your "nope" means you get the same error?
[20:53] <micahg> indeed
[20:53] <kfogel> thanks
[21:19] <bac> kfogel: i can access that link now
[21:19] <kfogel> bac: yah, mbarnett and I fixed it by hitting reload apparently
[21:19] <kfogel> sigh :-)
[21:20]  * mbarnett has a powerful reload key.