| alteregoa | yeah | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| billybigrigger | what do i need to make the partition as? | 00:00 |
| billybigrigger | ext{2,3,4}? | 00:00 |
| billybigrigger | bootable? | 00:00 |
| alteregoa | ext4 | 00:00 |
| billybigrigger | odd | 00:02 |
| billybigrigger | those liveusb install instructions had me copy the contents of the .iso to a fat32 drive and install syslinux onto it | 00:02 |
| billybigrigger | let's try this out | 00:05 |
| billybigrigger | brb | 00:05 |
| dergringo | I'm looking for some kind of automount/autoumount for smb shares. Means I'd like to mount a smb share whenever it's available and umount it automatically when I disconnect the network. Any hint? | 00:07 |
| billybigrigger | unetbootin doesn't overwrite mbr on the flash disk eh? | 00:10 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | you tell us | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | no i don't think so | 00:14 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo: how do i totally zero a disk? | 00:14 |
| billybigrigger | clear mbr and everything on it? | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | dd | 00:14 |
| billybigrigger | i can do that with dd i think but i don't know how | 00:14 |
| billybigrigger | ahh i was right :P | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | man dd | 00:15 |
| arand | dd if=/dev/null of=/fried/chicken | 00:15 |
| billybigrigger | :-O tinycore doesn't come with dd | 00:15 |
| billybigrigger | ffs | 00:15 |
| arand | billybigrigger: Zomg! | 00:15 |
| billybigrigger | isn't that part of coretutils or something | 00:15 |
| BUGabundo | zero | 00:15 |
| BUGabundo | not null | 00:16 |
| green_bowl | Pulseaudio stopped working after a "partial upgrade" | 00:17 |
| green_bowl | And I am severely pissed off | 00:17 |
| arand | BUGabundo: Ah, true that. | 00:17 |
| green_bowl | >.< | 00:17 |
| green_bowl | Can anyone help? | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | green_bowl: how told you do do Partial?? | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | darn it!!! | 00:18 |
| green_bowl | The Update Manager | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | use aptitute safe-upgrade | 00:18 |
| * arand wonders if the given command dd if=/dev/null is the way to reclaim bits-in-the-bucket? | 00:18 | |
| BUGabundo | it should help fix | 00:18 |
| billybigrigger | green_bowl: never do partial upgrades | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | green_bowl: UM doesn't tell you too. it just offers an options | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | well | 00:19 |
| green_bowl | billybigrigger: I won't from now on. | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | some times you got tooo | 00:19 |
| billybigrigger | iirc there is a pretty hefty warning in UM for doing partial upgrades is there not? | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | but today is a bad day | 00:20 |
| Hirato_ | I probably should just stay quiet, but when did pulseaudio start working? :P | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | it will remove lost of stuff | 00:20 |
| green_bowl | *stop? | 00:20 |
| green_bowl | Stopped working after I partially upgraded | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | Hirato varies for ppl | 00:20 |
| green_bowl | I'm doing aptitude safe-upgrade right now, hopefully that will fix it | 00:20 |
| arand | BUGabundo: remember the bug you filed before, it *does* tell you to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/373006 | 00:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373006 in update-manager "Update-manager should not incentivate to do Partial Updates" [Undecided,New] | 00:20 |
| green_bowl | If not, I will just resort back to esound | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | arand: that's ONE YEAR old | 00:20 |
| green_bowl | Also what happened to 9.04's sound control with the different channels and so-forth? | 00:21 |
| Hirato_ | it brings me back to a much earlier complaint, why is KDE dependant on libpulse0? | 00:21 |
| green_bowl | This sound controller just sucks. | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | green_bowl: please don't | 00:21 |
| carl__ | any tips for wireless i keep losing my connection using wicd now | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | green_bowl: use pavucontrol | 00:21 |
| green_bowl | I will if safe-upgrade doesn't work | 00:21 |
| Hirato_ | the only application I've found that actually depends on any of the libpulse stuff was mplayer | 00:21 |
| green_bowl | Hurray! | 00:23 |
| green_bowl | safe-upgrade fixed it | 00:23 |
| carl__ | hey green fix my wireless problem | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | see? | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | what do I always say? | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | aptitude rulz | 00:23 |
| green_bowl | @carl__: What's wrong? | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | carl__: what kernel? | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | what card? | 00:23 |
| green_bowl | Actually... nvm | 00:23 |
| green_bowl | No way I can help anyone fix Ubuntu, I'm better left to helping Windows noobs | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 00:24 |
| carl__ | i did the kubuntu but went from kubuntu to svn plasma since i have a netbook | 00:24 |
| carl__ | n using wicd now but i keep losing my wireless connection | 00:25 |
| bucky | carl__, what's your hardware? | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | carl__: there's a kubuntu NR | 00:25 |
| carl__ | msi u100 realtrek 187se | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | have you looked in launchoad | 00:26 |
| carl__ | no | 00:26 |
| carl__ | liked kubuntu netbook but knetwork would not connect saw in forums about wicd installed it | 00:27 |
| carl__ | kopte would not connect with yahoo for me so went got pidgin | 00:27 |
| carl__ | kopete | 00:28 |
| Hirato_ | me next: KDE 4.3 renders borders and panels with corruption when compositing is off on my laptop (IBM thinkpad T42) http://i29.tinypic.com/2a5m3oo.png | 00:30 |
| bucky | carl__, you sure you have a Realtek RTL8187 and not a RT2860 ? | 00:30 |
| carl__ | did the upgrades now kpackagekit says aptbackend.py closed | 00:30 |
| bucky | jaunty is supposed to support RTL8187 | 00:31 |
| carl__ | it shows my network just some reason i lose my connection all the time | 00:32 |
| carl__ | yes that is what it says on the back | 00:32 |
| carl__ | 8187se | 00:32 |
| bucky | carl__, you need to apt-get the linux-backports-modules for your kernel | 00:32 |
| bucky | apt-cache search linux-backports-modules | 00:33 |
| carl__ | did that now what bucky | 00:34 |
| bucky | carl__, i don't have wireless but you need to load the right drivers and set it up prolly in the menus | 00:35 |
| carl__ | k | 00:35 |
| billybigrigger | how do i get dd to print stats? | 00:36 |
| BUGabundo | send a sig kill | 00:37 |
| BUGabundo | RTFM | 00:37 |
| BUGabundo | manpages.ubuntu.com | 00:37 |
| billybigrigger | just saw that at the end thanks | 00:37 |
| billybigrigger | of man page | 00:37 |
| billybigrigger | ok i installed karmic daily live to a usb disk with unetbootin, and now extlinux can't find the linux image | 00:54 |
| burner | is skype crashing for anyone else? I'm just curious if it's me or something to do with the pulse upgrade in karmic that broke it | 00:59 |
| RagnarokAngel | skype hasn't been crashing... | 01:00 |
| RagnarokAngel | but it's been getting weird ASLA errors for me | 01:00 |
| arand | billybigrigger: reformat and install again? I've bumped into similar I think... | 01:00 |
| billybigrigger | arand, well according to unetbootin's page, the partition has to be fat32 | 01:00 |
| billybigrigger | someone in here told me ext4 :P | 01:01 |
| burner | RagnarokAngel: like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/260116/ mine opens, then crashes right away | 01:01 |
| RagnarokAngel | I get this error from skype: RtApiAlsa: underrun detected. | 01:01 |
| arand | billybigrigger: I think that if you just leave it unpartitioned it will make an appropriate partition.. | 01:01 |
| billybigrigger | arand, it needs to be mounted before it will do anything to the disk | 01:02 |
| billybigrigger | need to have a created partition to mount it :P | 01:02 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: whoah, no nothing that bad. I'm getting serious audio issues, but not a full crash. You should probably report that somewhere... | 01:02 |
| arand | billybigrigger: right... I blame half a year of not using unetbootin. | 01:03 |
| burner | hrm... tha'ts the question... i wonder where to report it being that skype is all closed source and not in launchpad | 01:03 |
| billybigrigger | arand, haha | 01:03 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: report an ALSA and a GTK bug? | 01:03 |
| burner | RagnarokAngel: are you 32-bit? | 01:04 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: yep, 32-bit | 01:04 |
| burner | i bet it's a 64-bit specific issue | 01:04 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: oh, that's possible. | 01:04 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: is there any dev at all going on for skype4linux? | 01:05 |
| burner | none that is out in the open | 01:05 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: it's really pathetic on skype's side.... | 01:06 |
| burner | thanks for the help RagnarokAngel... by figuring out the 64-bit thing... it led me to the forums and a possible workaround :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7829749 | 01:06 |
| RagnarokAngel | I'm having issues with empathy and voice/webcam calls.... | 01:07 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: glad I could help, in any way at all | 01:07 |
| burner | i haven't tried empathy's voice/webcam stuff yet... or pidgin's | 01:08 |
| RagnarokAngel | I can't even find a version of pidgin that's been packaged correctly for voice/video | 01:08 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: it detects that I have voice and video capabilities | 01:09 |
| RagnarokAngel | but whenever I try and connect to someone it auto-ends whenever I try to connect | 01:09 |
| RagnarokAngel | I haven't tried connecting to anyone who is running empathy though... | 01:09 |
| burner | aww... i was going to help test | 01:10 |
| RagnarokAngel | hmmmm | 01:11 |
| burner | hi | 01:11 |
| RagnarokAngel | I'm getting something about mission control not running? | 01:11 |
| burner | wanna test empathy? i have it | 01:11 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: yeah. what's your handle? | 01:11 |
| burner | xburnerx@gmail.com | 01:12 |
| burner | grr.. my alt+f2 doesn't work... oh well, i'm on empathy | 01:12 |
| burner | jabber is supposed to do the voice/video too right? i have a jabber acccount as well | 01:12 |
| RagnarokAngel | anything xmpp should work | 01:13 |
| RagnarokAngel | getting a call? | 01:13 |
| burner | nope | 01:13 |
| RagnarokAngel | well | 01:13 |
| RagnarokAngel | lol | 01:13 |
| RagnarokAngel | that's actually better than everything I've tried so far XD | 01:13 |
| burner | cause it didn't crash? :) | 01:14 |
| RagnarokAngel | no because it didn't automatically close the call as soon as I tried.... | 01:14 |
| RagnarokAngel | what's your jabber handle, see if that works any better | 01:14 |
| burner | now if it would only let me know you called | 01:14 |
| burner | dburanen@jabber.org | 01:14 |
| RagnarokAngel | allegedly it's calling | 01:15 |
| RagnarokAngel | hmm | 01:15 |
| burner | nothing here | 01:15 |
| RagnarokAngel | terminal is giving me an empathy-warning though | 01:15 |
| RagnarokAngel | I'll pastebin everything since empathy started.... | 01:15 |
| burner | i could call you... handle? | 01:16 |
| RagnarokAngel | RagnarokAngel.s@gmail.com | 01:16 |
| * arand likes how they removed one useful thing from the notification area, only to add four useless things >.< | 01:16 | |
| RagnarokAngel | anything? | 01:17 |
| burner | nada | 01:17 |
| RagnarokAngel | so here's the pastebin of the excursion according to empathy http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4e39b53b | 01:17 |
| burner | i was getting all that MC stuff, but none of hte warnings | 01:18 |
| RagnarokAngel | excellent, so the audio issues must be specific to my system... | 01:18 |
| RagnarokAngel | because both of those warnings were when I tried placing calls.... | 01:18 |
| RagnarokAngel | however my brother on gtalk tried calling me | 01:18 |
| RagnarokAngel | and I at least *get* the call | 01:18 |
| RagnarokAngel | but it drops instantly | 01:18 |
| burner | progress :) | 01:19 |
| RagnarokAngel | lol | 01:19 |
| DanaG | grr, pulseaudio still doesn't offer surround sound on my usb sound card. | 01:19 |
| burner | grr... pulseaudios notification area icon means i can't maximize fitt's law and move to the bottom right corner for audio anymore :\ | 01:19 |
| DanaG | That's not Pulseaudio specifically... that's the Ubuntu devs deciding to disable the old mixer applet. | 01:20 |
| burner | yeah... just had to use your comment as a segue to bitch | 01:20 |
| RagnarokAngel | lol | 01:20 |
| arand | On the subject of audio-woes. Seems like new sound thingamabob only picks up my built-in mic, not externally connected ones, which worked in jaunty... | 01:22 |
| RagnarokAngel | my bluetooth headset pairs just fine and doesn't interface with pulseaudio | 01:22 |
| burner | i'm rockin a usb connected headset currently in karmic | 01:22 |
| burner | my bluetooth has never worked | 01:22 |
| RagnarokAngel | burner: there's a bug report that has been solved back in 7.10 that specifically states *my* headset worked with ubuntu | 01:23 |
| RagnarokAngel | hooooray regression! | 01:23 |
| burner | i doubt it actually worked... pulse + bluetooth has been sketchy with 5+ headsets I tried | 01:23 |
| RagnarokAngel | bug got solved at least... | 01:23 |
| RagnarokAngel | so | 01:23 |
| burner | fair enough | 01:24 |
| RagnarokAngel | pulse isn't even seeing my headset... but it's paired just fine according to blueman | 01:24 |
| RagnarokAngel | and yes, I have blueman's pulseaudio plugin turned on | 01:24 |
| DanaG | weird... my version of blueman no longer even shows a "plugins" menu anywhere. | 01:28 |
| RagnarokAngel | DanaG: not in the about menu? | 01:29 |
| RagnarokAngel | DanaG: which is the weirdest place *ever* to put plugins.... | 01:29 |
| DanaG | no wonder I couldn't find it. | 01:29 |
| RagnarokAngel | lol | 01:29 |
| RagnarokAngel | you're welcome | 01:29 |
| RagnarokAngel | I found it accidently | 01:29 |
| DanaG | wow, that's a HORRIBLE place for such a menu. | 01:30 |
| RagnarokAngel | lol, I know! And for some reason the pulse plugin was turned OFF by default | 01:30 |
| RagnarokAngel | so I thought | 01:30 |
| RagnarokAngel | hey, if I turn this on it should magic fix! | 01:30 |
| RagnarokAngel | nope. | 01:30 |
| RagnarokAngel | epic fail blueman. | 01:31 |
| DanaG | hmm, check pavucontrol... I think bluetooth devices default to profile "disabled", for some reason. | 01:31 |
| arand | Oh, apparently the setting ti enable my external mic was hidden away from the current sound applet, alsamixer shows them a-okay though, meh | 01:33 |
| DanaG | ugh, and pulseaudio can't control the volume of my usb soundcard. | 01:34 |
| RagnarokAngel | what's that DanaG? I don't even get another device to show up when I pair my headest... or at least not the last time which was what, a few days ago... | 01:34 |
| DanaG | hmm, and you've manually selected "connect to a2dp service"? | 01:37 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsplash/+bug/412598 | 01:39 |
| DanaG | grr! | 01:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412598 in xsplash "Xsplash only uses the default wallpaper during transition to desktop." [Undecided,Won't fix] | 01:39 |
| RagnarokAngel | DanaG: um.... No, It's set up as a headset profile (whatever that means) -- how could I manually set it up as a2dp? | 01:40 |
| DanaG | hmm, right-click on the device in blueman-manager, and see what pops up. | 01:42 |
| DanaG | oh, and what's with the ugly jiggling line on xsplash? | 01:44 |
| arand | Hmm, add/rem apps was added to admin menu... | 01:45 |
| hggdh | hum. Where in bloody hell is my FUSA? | 01:47 |
| RagnarokAngel | DanaG: when I get it paired my options in blueman are connect to input, connect to headset.... | 01:48 |
| DanaG | ah, must not be a BT stereo capable thingy. | 01:48 |
| DanaG | I've added comments to that bug report. | 01:51 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsplash/+bug/412598 | 01:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412598 in xsplash "Xsplash only uses the default wallpaper during transition to desktop." [Undecided,Won't fix] | 01:51 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, sorry for sudden topic change. =þ | 01:55 |
| burner | won't fix xsplash... that's unfortunate | 01:56 |
| DanaG | Hardcoding paths == bad. | 01:58 |
| DanaG | They should at least make it an 'alternative', or something. | 01:58 |
| DanaG | Current behavior: usplash -> xsplash (brown) -> gdm (blue) -> xsplash (brown) -> gdm (blue) -> user-desktop. | 01:58 |
| DanaG | Better behavior: usplash -> xsplash (brown) -> gdm (blue) -> xsplash (blue) -> user-desktop. | 01:58 |
| burner | i like the mockups on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo | 01:58 |
| DanaG | (I'm using blue as an example.) | 01:58 |
| melik | ubuntu 9.10 should include the firewall, services, bootloader GUI configuration tools, the ones that come with Fedora | 02:08 |
| melik | those are great tools :D | 02:08 |
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| aj_444_ | I am having trouble shutting down my ubuntu machine. the ubuntu line will go the opposite way it does during start up, but then I get stuck at a white blinking line in the upper lefthand corner. | 02:27 |
| aj_444 | is anybody in here? | 02:31 |
| aj_444 | I'll take that as a no. | 02:33 |
| x1250 | aj_444, that is so vague.... :( | 02:36 |
| === akgraner_ is now known as akgraner | ||
| * [Ramy] is busy with another bugs harvesting mission :) | 02:56 | |
| nocturna | Hey everyone..i'm having an issue with grub2. It boots automatically into my ubuntu install..and never displays a menu, so I cannot choose any other OS to boot into. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I've checked the grub.cfg and all the other OS's are there.. | 03:06 |
| aboSamoor | did anyone notice the new xsplash ? the animation is really poor :(, but no resizing for the background is really cool | 03:09 |
| robert__ | my computer won't restart is this a common problem for alpha release? | 03:09 |
| robert__ | this channel is dead | 03:11 |
| hggdh | nocturna, you need to change /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and then run update-grub2 | 03:41 |
| x1250 | nocturna, did you press ESC (to show the menu)? | 03:45 |
| nocturna | x1250: It never says to press ESC or anything, it basically just boots ubuntu right off. I don't think I'd have enough time, but I can try the next time I reboot | 03:57 |
| hggdh | on the other hand, it is interesting how many people here expect an immediate response (looking at the backlog) | 04:00 |
| nocturna | I don't expect an immediate response :p | 04:01 |
| hggdh | nocturna, it was not directed at you :-) | 04:02 |
| x1250 | well, people that expect inmediate responses, usually get none hehe. | 04:02 |
| greenbowl | Okay so my sound is really messed up. | 04:02 |
| greenbowl | I don't get any sound at all outside of Firefox (Swiftfox) | 04:03 |
| greenbowl | No boot sound, game sounds, rhythmbox - nothing | 04:03 |
| greenbowl | And the volume controls don't work either | 04:03 |
| greenbowl | I can move them up and down but they do nothing | 04:03 |
| greenbowl | Wait... now NO sound is working after a reboot | 04:04 |
| greenbowl | :/ | 04:04 |
| oldude67 | greenbowl, what does alsamixer say? is anything muted? | 04:05 |
| greenbowl | No | 04:06 |
| greenbowl | I just moved a slider on alsamixer and I heard a pop in my headphones | 04:07 |
| greenbowl | But that was all that happened... still no sound at all | 04:07 |
| x1250 | greenbowl, just to mention it, plan B is to purge pulseaudio till they fix it. You'll probably be fine with alsa. | 04:08 |
| greenbowl | Ok | 04:08 |
| greenbowl | So I just purged pulseaudio | 04:09 |
| greenbowl | I'll reboot and come back if 9.10 is still being an arse. | 04:09 |
| greenbowl | Which, sadly, will probably be the case... that's what I get for wanting to be on the edge of technology I suppose :P | 04:10 |
| nocturna | Rebooting, I'm going to see if hitting escape lets me choose an OS. Brb and ty for the help. | 04:10 |
| greenbowl | Sound works | 04:13 |
| greenbowl | Any way I can get the sound control back on my task bar without using Pulse Audio? | 04:13 |
| greenbowl | Like... is there a PA alternative? | 04:13 |
| x1250 | greenbowl, I did a menu element with the command: alsamixer -c 0 | 04:14 |
| x1250 | and if you need to adjust the mic, press tab. | 04:14 |
| nippz | hey been initializing/testing a 1.5tb drive so i can smak +1 in it, and ive written to the whole drive 4 times and done 3 full/long formats. | 04:15 |
| nippz | so now i'm scanning for errors with smartctl, would like second opinion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/260141/ | 04:16 |
| x1250 | nippz, looks normal to me. but this is not an expert opinion, just looks similar to what I get with my new HDD. Anyway, those pre-fail and old-age, which I also get, are odd. Third opinion someone? | 04:19 |
| nippz | x1250 ty; agreed seems odd; ::peers around:: | 04:19 |
| nippz | x1250 figured i'd give the new stuff the best stuff i got - clocking a q66@3.6 once installed :> | 04:20 |
| greenbowl | Does anyone know of a program I can use to control my volume? | 04:24 |
| greenbowl | Sort of like pulse audio, but less fail-prone | 04:24 |
| RagnarokAngel | alsa has stuff... | 04:25 |
| RagnarokAngel | if you jus twant mainline.... | 04:25 |
| x1250 | greenbowl, something like a volume applet? | 04:25 |
| greenbowl | I reckon | 04:26 |
| greenbowl | Something I can put on a panel | 04:26 |
| greenbowl | and can recognize the volume buttons on my comp | 04:26 |
| nippz | sounds like a keyboard button mapping issue really. | 04:26 |
| x1250 | greenbowl, I don't know, I just use alsamixer from the gnome menu. Maybe there is something out there, if you find something let me know :p | 04:30 |
| greenbowl | Okey smoke | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | greenbowl: Have you reported a bug about your pulseaudio issues? | 04:42 |
| Amaranth | greenbowl: Otherwise you'll have to get an old copy of gnome-applets | 04:42 |
| DanaG | !info gamix | 04:48 |
| ubottu | gamix (source: gamix): Graphical sound mixer for ALSA. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.99.p14.debian1-4ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 38 kB, installed size 196 kB | 04:48 |
| DanaG | not a hotkey thingy, though. | 04:48 |
| DanaG | "pre-fail" is the TYPE of parameter, not the STATE. | 04:49 |
| DanaG | pre-fail means that, if this variable goes bad, it's a sign of upcoming failure. | 04:49 |
| x1250 | mmm, good! thanks | 04:50 |
| billybigrigger | i think i'm done buying seagate drives | 05:11 |
| billybigrigger | just had my bios tell me my root disk is bad | 05:12 |
| crdlb | and? :) | 05:12 |
| darthanubis | any kubuntu users here? | 05:13 |
| Refried_ | Heya.. I have a weird issue. I have a wireless usb keyboard/mouse combo that work fine at the terminal, and to switch terminals, and to switch in and out of X, but are pretty flaky inside of X | 05:14 |
| Refried_ | the mouse even works fine at the terminal with gpm | 05:14 |
| billybigrigger | crdlb: i have 3 seagate drives and they're all less than a year old | 05:14 |
| billybigrigger | one i've had to rma already | 05:14 |
| billybigrigger | now this one | 05:14 |
| Refried_ | the mouse right now is completely useless under X (although if i plug in an additional wired usb mouse, that works fine) | 05:15 |
| RagnarokAngel | is it a good idea to update java? | 05:15 |
| Refried_ | any suggestions as to how to begin diagnosing? | 05:15 |
| crdlb | billybigrigger: well, two failures is unlucky, but they do fail | 05:16 |
| Refried_ | three failures indicates a curse | 05:25 |
| DanaG | heyas, I got the -7 kernel to boot. | 05:29 |
| DanaG | The issue was one I'd run into before: | 05:30 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/392039 | 05:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 392039 in fglrx-installer "initramfs scripts hard-coded to load i915; blocks loading fglrx" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 05:30 |
| darthanubis | http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106052.0 | 05:34 |
| billybigrigger | anyone here have any suggestions on getting my grub restored... | 05:38 |
| billybigrigger | i don't have a cdrw, just a usb stick | 05:38 |
| billybigrigger | and im stuck in tinycore linux | 05:38 |
| billybigrigger | i can't seem to get karmic daily live iso copied to usb drive correctly, or super grub disk... | 05:39 |
| billybigrigger | since tinycore doesn't have grub to setup SGD properly | 05:39 |
| billybigrigger | ...i'm running out of ideas | 05:39 |
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| NoCode | http://pastebin.ca/1544297 So, I updated and upgraded with apt=get in the terminal, it said it kept packages back. So I went back into synaptic and marked all upgrades. It removed 3 packages and installed 40mb worth of other packages. Then I got that. | 05:49 |
| NoCode | Any ideas | 05:49 |
| Severian | Is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET what I need to change to have menu of choice no longer hidden? I don't find any documentation for this. | 05:51 |
| DanaG | hmm, check /etc/default/grub? | 05:51 |
| NoCode | why the hell would ctrl+c be linked to "closing" the "changes applied" window? Now I can't copy an error message. :| | 05:52 |
| Severian | DanaG, that is where the variable appeared. But, it is not documented there. Is it supposed to be? | 05:52 |
| DanaG | Beats me. | 05:52 |
| Severian | OK, maybe someone here will know. I'd like to be able to boot my system after tomorrows update. I have to go back to the 2.6.31-6 kernel or it won't boot. And, yes I am searching the bug list to see if this is reported somewhere about the new kernel not booting. | 05:54 |
| DanaG | hmm, what's the actual behavior you see? especially try booting without "quiet splash". | 05:55 |
| Severian | I alread changed the quiet to verbose. The boot consistently hangs at the same spot. The last message is about not being able to load /lib/modules/2.6.31-7-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko | 05:57 |
| Severian | The failure to boot started yesterday, but I did not have time to look into it until today. | 05:58 |
| Severian | Does anyone know what change to make to just /boot/grub/grub.cft to unhide the menu? The procedure about /etc/default/grub won't work, because I can't boot Ubuntu at the moment. So, I have to use a CD boot and edit a file and then reboot koala. | 06:16 |
| oldude67 | is it just me or did the new update botch a few files? | 06:17 |
| Severian | I am having several problems, but I just assume that is normal during alpha testing. For example gedit crashes a lot. But, I can't repeat it reliably. | 06:18 |
| Severian | The new graphic during login is spiffy, though. | 06:20 |
| oldude67 | i just had a couple of them error out on me when i first did the update and had to do a apt-get install -f to fix | 06:20 |
| sageNsand | I been having a problem with karmic boot. When it boots it stops at the black screen with the blinking cursor at the very top right. I then press reset and it boots OK. So it takes me 2 tries to get it booted. This just started today. Is there something I should type in at the blinking cursor to continue on? | 06:30 |
| sageNsand | top left | 06:31 |
| Severian | Type "Stop that" | 06:31 |
| Severian | It won't help, though. | 06:31 |
| sageNsand | I wish it was that easy | 06:31 |
| Severian | I just submitted a bug. It only affects the karmic alpha version of Ubuntu. I don't see where to mark it thus. It is bug 419709. Can anyone advise? | 06:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419709 in linux "System does not complete boot process" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419709 | 06:33 |
| Severian | Should I put a tag of Karmic on it? Is that the right way? | 06:35 |
| sageNsand | I would post a bug but I don't have any code stuff to go along with it so I think I'll just lay low and it'll work out in the end | 06:36 |
| sageNsand | I had another problem with Gedit text editor. Sometimes when I go to open one on my desktop it opens for a mil second and disappears. I see the white layout but text doesn't have time to load. The workaround is to rename the file then it will open...strange | 06:41 |
| sageNsand | Severian I always put Karmic as the first word just to make it stand out from all the other bugs. Its easier to filter through | 06:50 |
| Severian | sageNsand, The first word in what? The subject, description, tags or something else? | 06:52 |
| sageNsand | The subject | 06:53 |
| Severian | OK, I'll go see if I can modify that. | 06:53 |
| sageNsand | Yours would look like Karmic system does not complete boot process | 06:58 |
| Severian | sageNsand, I changed it to say Karmic does not complete boot process. That should get the idea across. | 06:59 |
| sageNsand | For us testing guys that would help in finding just the Karmic bugs without having to open all of them to see what it was about | 07:00 |
| sageNsand | night all | 07:02 |
| DanaG | Might wanna' mention the kernel version that fails! | 07:09 |
| Severian | It is in the description. Should it be in the summary? | 07:11 |
| keith | I installed kubuntu-desktop in Karmic, but I was not presented with the option to choose between kdm and gdm, nor do I seem to be able to get it to use gdm now. Is this a bug? Or is there a different way in the new GDM? | 07:33 |
| oldude67 | is there anyone else having updates held back, i have 11 of them as it is right now and they are the same 11 i have held back now for the last week. | 08:09 |
| nzmm | see what happens if you change to the Main server in Software Properties | 08:11 |
| oldude67 | well im not real concerned about it as it says there is a partial update with it and i wont do that ever again..i think ill just wait for them to let me update them. | 08:12 |
| nzmm | Ive had a cups package held back for a while | 08:14 |
| oldude67 | ya that is one of mine as well plus one for kdm and several others. | 08:14 |
| keith | oldude67, have you tried a dist-upgrade on the command line? I think that installed all but one of the packages being held back for me. | 08:32 |
| oldude67 | keith, no i havent , didnt think about that. let me try and see what it says. | 08:33 |
| keith | oldude67, I've never had any trouble trouble with partial upgrades either though. | 08:33 |
| oldude67 | i have, so i dont do them anymore, and its letting me install most of them now. lets see what happens. | 08:35 |
| keith | The only issue I have had with the latest updates is they sort of broke my user login widget thing on the gnome-panel | 08:35 |
| keith | but it seems mostly fixed now | 08:36 |
| keith | So... does anyone know how to switch from kdm back to gdm? The usual method isn't working in Karmic... | 08:36 |
| oldude67 | dpkg-reconfigure gdm should work | 08:37 |
| keith | oldude67, doesn't seem to | 08:37 |
| nzmm | hey, do people have to type in a password to eject dvd's. Because i have to... | 08:38 |
| keith | oldude67, it gives no prompt, and says that the changes will take effect after all X sessions are closed. But keeps using kdm no matter what I do. | 08:38 |
| oldude67 | nzmm, i have never had too. | 08:38 |
| keith | nzmm, nor I | 08:38 |
| nzmm | ok wierd | 08:38 |
| keith | oldude67, Are you using Karmic as a primary OS? or for testing? | 08:40 |
| oldude67 | its my primary os | 08:40 |
| keith | oldude67, so I can see why you would want to be more cautious then. I have mostly just been testing in VirtualBox so far. You might consider installing it to test upgrades or partial upgrades in the future. | 08:41 |
| oldude67 | i have, but with my intel stuff i cant really do that as it dont use the video in virtual box. tried it. | 08:41 |
| keith | oldude67, Gotcha. In my VM, it seems to be pretty stable and reliable at this point... has that been your experience as well? I am thinking of switching to it as my primary OS. | 08:42 |
| oldude67 | the only problem i have had is when i did the partial upgrade and it hosed the system and had to reload it,but i keep all my personal stuff on a flash drive just for that reason. | 08:43 |
| oldude67 | but i am also on a desktop with a hard line for my eth0 and dont have to worry about wifi and all of that stuff as well either. | 08:44 |
| keith | oldude67, was that earlier in the development? Because I don't trust any upgrades, partial or otherwise in the early releases. That's why I like keeping a separate home partition, and having nightly backups to an external drive. | 08:45 |
| keith | oldude67, the only thing that is making me cautious about switching right now is that I am wanting to install kde, but I don't think I really want to use kdm. | 08:46 |
| oldude67 | yes that was like in alpha 2 and i think we are now on 5 | 08:46 |
| keith | oldude67, I find the updates get fairly reliable around 3, and the distro gets usable as a primary os around 4 or 5. | 08:46 |
| oldude67 | that is all i usually run as i dont care for gnome that well. | 08:46 |
| keith | oldude67, I always give kde a shot, but always end up back with gnome. :\ | 08:47 |
| keith | oldude67, I really like a lot of things about it, but I think I don't give it enough of a chance when I run into something I can easily do in gnome. | 08:47 |
| oldude67 | i would probably use xfce before i would gnome any more. | 08:47 |
| keith | why do you dislike gnome vs. kde? | 08:48 |
| oldude67 | just my preference really, i got so use to using kde with slackware that when i switched to ubuntu i didnt like the gnome desktop. | 08:49 |
| keith | oldude67, yeah... the thing that frustrated me most recently was I couldn't find a way to browse the network in kde easily. Are you aware of a way? | 08:50 |
| keith | oldude67, I found references that told how, but it didn't seem to exist in Karmic when I looked for the same things. | 08:50 |
| oldude67 | ah yeah gnome does seem to have more for the network then kde does, i will give it that... | 08:51 |
| keith | oldude67, there are a lot of little things that I liked about gnome more... like, when you tried playing a video that it didn't have a codec for, totem will ask if you want it to search. dragon (I think?) just didn't play the video. | 08:52 |
| ripps | I've got a problem where atop randomly takes up 96% of the cpu, I can barely write this message | 08:52 |
| ripps | gonna try to reboot | 08:53 |
| oldude67 | ripps, what does atop do? | 08:54 |
| keith | performance monitor? | 08:54 |
| keith | http://freshmeat.net/projects/atop/ | 08:54 |
| oldude67 | ah you mean like in htop hmm i dont know i just run gkrellm | 08:55 |
| oldude67 | keith, thanks for reminding me about the dist-upgrade i got all but 1 upgrade so thats cool | 08:58 |
| keith | oldude67, no problem. I used earlier today, so I was pretty sure it would work for you. | 09:01 |
| oldude67 | i had just forgotten about it, as usually after a few days they all get upgraded, but i think alpha 5 just came out and i think i was still on 3 anyways.lol | 09:02 |
| randomnick | Hey guys.. i did a dist-upgrade yesterday or so and after that i wasn't able to boot any more. | 09:03 |
| oldude67 | randomnick, what error did it give you? | 09:03 |
| randomnick | it says my filesystem is broken (i reinstalled.. and it worked until i dist-upgraded again - it's not a kernel issue it seems - i tried the old one as well) | 09:03 |
| keith | oldude67, alpha 5 comes out next thursday. :) | 09:04 |
| randomnick | i'm on a 9.04 live disc atm. | 09:04 |
| oldude67 | randomnick, did you try to go into the recovery mode and fix it with the dpkg recovery option? | 09:04 |
| randomnick | hmm nope, i dropped to a shell and did fsck, which also said something was broken | 09:05 |
| oldude67 | hit esc when you reboot and see if you have the recover mode and try that. | 09:06 |
| oldude67 | may have botched and update | 09:06 |
| randomnick | sorry, i didn't absolutely get it.. i shall boot into recovery mode and then do what (and why)? | 09:07 |
| randomnick | i don't know what you mean with dpkg recovery option, sorry | 09:07 |
| randomnick | by the way.. i can mount the partition without problems on the live disk | 09:08 |
| keith | oldude67, have you had any issues mounting media when you open in for the first time from the kicker? | 09:08 |
| oldude67 | under the menu when you hit esc there is an option to go to a recovery kernel setting then there is a menu that has an option to do with dpkg and it fixes some things.if you look you will see what im talking about. | 09:08 |
| randomnick | okay, will do - thanks so far :) | 09:09 |
| oldude67 | keith, i myself have had never a problem with any media not mounting, but i know a lot of people do, most of the time someone in here can help you with it tho. | 09:09 |
| keith | oldude67, well... I can get the media to mount, either through the "Recently Plugged In Devices" or manually, but for some reason the kicker doesn't seem to work for me... at least in a VM. | 09:10 |
| keith | it opens a blank window | 09:10 |
| keith | I filed a bug, but I was curious about your experience in a real install. | 09:11 |
| oldude67 | are you using the one from the repos or the one from vboxes web site? | 09:11 |
| keith | web site | 09:11 |
| oldude67 | idk i have only used the one from the repos :( | 09:12 |
| keith | So, if you put a CD in your drive, and open it from Kicker->Computer->CD... it opens correctly? | 09:12 |
| oldude67 | oh i dont know havent tried. | 09:13 |
| keith | oldude67, do you normally open from the popup? | 09:13 |
| oldude67 | sorry i miss understood what you meant i thought you was talking about a pendrive. | 09:14 |
| oldude67 | yeah i just open from the kdm log in. | 09:14 |
| keith | oldude67, Well, I have only tested with a CD. My assumption was that it would work the same with a flash drive. | 09:14 |
| richardcavell | anyone on Karmic having problems with XChat? | 09:14 |
| keith | Can't test flash drives in Vbox afaik though | 09:14 |
| oldude67 | nope im not. | 09:14 |
| oldude67 | i thought the one from their web site would let you use flashdrives now. | 09:15 |
| oldude67 | well its now going on 3:30 am here so im out for the night take care laters all | 09:16 |
| blackest_knight1 | hi karmic tried to upgrade my nvidia to version 185 but there is no nvidia.ko file and x is pretty broke | 09:21 |
| randomnick | hm.. that didn't work actually.. the recovery mode ends in the same situation.. the only difference is, that there's no splash screen due to menu.lst. | 09:22 |
| keith | randomnick, oldude67 left. | 09:22 |
| blackest_knight1 | Any idea what I need to do to get a better x I'm using vesa640x480 to get here | 09:23 |
| randomnick | oh.. i see. thanks for telling me. | 09:23 |
| keith | randomnick, didn't want you to wait forever for a reply. Wish I could help. :) | 09:23 |
| randomnick | :) | 09:23 |
| ripps | Hmmm.... it seems I can't use superuser admin guis when mousetweaks is enabled | 09:27 |
| blackest_knight1 | any suggestions for missing nvidia driver | 09:29 |
| Bauldrick | after logging in my screen fades to black - I can still run programs via Alt f2, but my desktop is not there. It's kubuntu-netbook, it's been suggested to disable kernel modesetting (?) how's that done? | 10:35 |
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| maxb | Whoa, new pulsating ubuntu thingy whilst waiting for X to start | 10:57 |
| maxb | What package implements that? | 10:57 |
| Severian | I think it is gdm, from some earlier comments. | 11:00 |
| cdE|Woozy | maxb, that is xsplash | 11:04 |
| Michalxo | hello all. Is trackerd removed by default in karmic? | 11:10 |
| mac_v | hrm... what does the folder ~/.mcop refer to ? which app? | 11:15 |
| mac_v | has a folder "trader-cache" and file random seed | 11:17 |
| ripps | bizarre, I've been having alot of trouble logging in because My processor is flooded with a hundred ubuntuone-syncdaemon processes | 11:35 |
| arand | Beware of ubuntuone currently, it seems to send bug reports which lists all your "onned" files >_< | 11:36 |
| ripps | I only have like 2 files stored there | 11:37 |
| ripps | Now I've managed to run a loop process to kill ubuntu-syncdaemon long enough to uninstall and kill the ubuntuone-applet. | 11:38 |
| ripps | But notify-osd was flooded with Ubuntu One error messages. | 11:38 |
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| nzmm | Michalxo: libtrackerclient is installed on my system but thats about all. | 11:49 |
| Michalxo | aha, in mine too... so they dropped it by default :) | 11:50 |
| Michalxo | aha, it's for totem-plugins :) | 11:51 |
| nzmm | Yea tracker seems to be in limbo until they make a new release, 0.6 was fairly useless | 11:52 |
| Michalxo | whole tracker is imo useless... | 11:53 |
| nzmm | Well i like the idea of tracker conceptually, its just tracker has lacked both a decent gui and full text search | 11:57 |
| Michalxo | i heard that beagle or so is much better | 11:58 |
| nzmm | Is it even actively developed? | 12:01 |
| Michalxo | dunno | 12:02 |
| js | hi | 12:02 |
| Michalxo | take a look for yourself I don't intend to use it... :) | 12:02 |
| js | since I updated my karmic yesterday, it seems luks doesn't work anymore | 12:02 |
| js | it just hangs | 12:02 |
| js | someone having the same problem? | 12:02 |
| arand | I guess if anything, ubuntu's tracker will be zeitgeist... | 12:02 |
| js | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/418685 | 12:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 418685 in linux "cryptsetup hangs" [High,Confirmed] | 12:05 |
| js | it seems it's this issue | 12:05 |
| js | what would be the best way to use the old kernel + modules again | 12:06 |
| js | ? | 12:06 |
| js | apt-get remove the -7 and reinstall the -6 + modules? | 12:06 |
| js | when selecting 2.6.31-6 from GRUB, it complains about not finding the root fs - interesting | 12:19 |
| js | and the keyboard etc. don't work as well | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | at least you can shut down | 12:21 |
| js | gnomefreak: nope, not even thast | 12:26 |
| js | I can only hard-reset | 12:26 |
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| gnomefreak | js: me too | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | im filing a bug atm | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | js: you may want to comment and add info. you can just do ubuntu-bug 419859 | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419859 in linux "PC wont shut down correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419859 | 12:34 |
| cdE|Woozy | gnomefreak, bug #418509 | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 418509 in linux-meta "[Karmic] Hangs during shutdown with kernel 2.6.31-7" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418509 | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | cdE|Woozy: thanks | 12:36 |
| js | ok, 2.6.31-5 seems to work | 12:47 |
| Michalxo | guys? After todays update of notification (notify-osd?) my notifications shows in middle of the screen mi-right | 13:09 |
| Michalxo | is it supposed to be that way? :-/ | 13:09 |
| Michalxo | notify-osd: Installed: 0.9.18-0ubuntu1 | 13:10 |
| richardcavell | My shutdown procedure is broken after recent updates. Anyone else? | 13:16 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, same here | 13:17 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: I'm on a Macbook. How about you? | 13:17 |
| Michalxo | waiting for some services to be stopped and shutdown ro something similar I think, right? | 13:17 |
| Michalxo | amd64 PC | 13:17 |
| richardcavell | It seems as though it's waiting for something to shut down | 13:18 |
| Michalxo | yes | 13:18 |
| richardcavell | But I get unpredictable console output | 13:18 |
| Michalxo | I think it happened twice so far.. both times I had to manually shut down the PC :( | 13:18 |
| Michalxo | *laptop | 13:18 |
| Michalxo | well.. me only 1 message in which it stays and waits :-/ | 13:18 |
| richardcavell | Bug 419846 | 13:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419846 in ubuntu-meta "Cannot complete shutdown sequence on Karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419846 | 13:19 |
| Michalxo | btw have you updated recently? I have bug with notifications | 13:19 |
| richardcavell | My notifications appear halfway down the screen | 13:19 |
| Michalxo | they show up on MIDDLE RIGHT instread of TOP R | 13:19 |
| Michalxo | yeah | 13:19 |
| richardcavell | It's not supposed to do that, is it? | 13:19 |
| Michalxo | yea | 13:20 |
| Michalxo | it has to be on top right (by deault_ | 13:20 |
| richardcavell | it's a strange place to get notifications | 13:20 |
| Michalxo | yeah | 13:21 |
| Michalxo | what version of notify-osd do you have? | 13:21 |
| Michalxo | http://pastebin.com/m6e0e5521 ? | 13:22 |
| richardcavell | I updated to the latest one | 13:23 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: are you aware of a bug report on notify-osd? | 13:24 |
| Michalxo | dunno where | 13:24 |
| Michalxo | http://www.pixhost.org/show/119/618967_asd.png | 13:24 |
| Michalxo | trying to find related bug, but there are tons of notification bugs :-/ | 13:25 |
| richardcavell | yeah | 13:26 |
| richardcavell | I'm searching the bug reports right now | 13:26 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, I think we have to make the new one... | 13:29 |
| richardcavell | yeah I'm looking at it | 13:30 |
| richardcavell | Do you want to make the report and use your screenshot? | 13:30 |
| Michalxo | you can make it.. I'll add myself there later ;) | 13:31 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, you can use my picture if you want to ;) | 13:31 |
| richardcavell | okay I'll make a bug report | 13:32 |
| Michalxo | hey! I had/have? this bug too "Screen randomly goes off in karmic " | 13:33 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, do you have problem with "HDD corrupted" notification too? | 13:37 |
| richardcavell | firstly the screen randomly goes off bug has been fixed | 13:37 |
| richardcavell | it occurs on all video hardware | 13:38 |
| richardcavell | and I don't get HDD corrupted messages | 13:38 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, let me know when you make that notifi bug | 13:40 |
| richardcavell | okay I'm uploading now | 13:41 |
| richardcavell | Bug 419894 | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419894 | 13:41 |
| natewiebe13 | so today is artwork first drop.. what exactly happens? | 13:44 |
| richardcavell | it should mean that there's a whole stack of new artwork for us | 13:44 |
| natewiebe13 | as in.. | 13:45 |
| richardcavell | what are you asking? | 13:45 |
| Michalxo | where can we see it? | 13:45 |
| natewiebe13 | is there an update today.. or? | 13:45 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah exactly | 13:45 |
| richardcavell | I don't think it means that it will appear right now | 13:45 |
| richardcavell | presumably it will come within days | 13:45 |
| Michalxo | btw, new login-window showed up with todays updates.. some flashy thing ;) | 13:45 |
| natewiebe13 | an update from the repos? | 13:46 |
| richardcavell | natewiebe13: yeah it will come from the repos | 13:46 |
| Michalxo | y | 13:46 |
| richardcavell | we're trying it all out... that's the idea of an alpha release | 13:46 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, can we see that artwork somewhere? | 13:46 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: presumably you'd have to be involved with the project to see it | 13:47 |
| Michalxo | ah | 13:47 |
| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: you had a different gdm? | 13:48 |
| Michalxo | yes | 13:48 |
| Michalxo | a big longer to boot up imo.. +2-5 secs | 13:48 |
| natewiebe13 | what package did it for you? | 13:48 |
| natewiebe13 | xsplash? | 13:48 |
| natewiebe13 | because i have no update for 'gdm' here | 13:49 |
| Michalxo | it was basically same, but while loading there was some "progress-bar-like" flash going down-to-up | 13:49 |
| Michalxo | gdm 2.27.90 | 13:49 |
| natewiebe13 | ive had that for a long while now.. so the update must be from xsplash | 13:50 |
| natewiebe13 | i'll give it a try | 13:50 |
| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: very bugged | 14:09 |
| natewiebe13 | haha | 14:09 |
| natewiebe13 | the bar was supposed to go left and right, not up continuously.. | 14:10 |
| Michalxo | really? :D | 14:10 |
| natewiebe13 | but it is better than the wallpaper just flashing | 14:11 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. look at the video mockup on /Boot/Demo | 14:11 |
| Michalxo | I don't like that wallpaper at all.. and hadn't had it falshing... | 14:11 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, can you post direct link please? | 14:11 |
| natewiebe13 | better than what they had for a mockup | 14:11 |
| natewiebe13 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=karmic-boot-demo.swf | 14:12 |
| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: have you customized your gdm? | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | Heyas all | 14:13 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, not at all | 14:13 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, totem gives Internal data flow error. :D | 14:14 |
| natewiebe13 | open it with firefox | 14:14 |
| Michalxo | wow, yes that falsh is pretty nice | 14:14 |
| Michalxo | pretty nice boot :) | 14:15 |
| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: thats probably why you didnt see the flashing before.. i have a custom background, font, and icons on my gdm.. | 14:15 |
| cdE|Woozy | the throbber is quite jerky on my system due to heavy i/o on startup :/ | 14:15 |
| natewiebe13 | cdE|Woozy: the throbber should be going horizontally instead of vertically | 14:15 |
| cdE|Woozy | that too | 14:15 |
| natewiebe13 | it was fine for me.. except the direction of the throbber | 14:16 |
| natewiebe13 | but i also think that xsplash (the package that is responsible for this change) should get the background from the gdm, not from another source | 14:16 |
| cdE|Woozy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2OAgP0aX2Q <- that's how it looks on my system | 14:17 |
| Michalxo | same here cdE|Woozy ;) | 14:19 |
| natewiebe13 | cdE|Woozy: thats definately a smoother transition that what i have.. since i have a custom background on gdm.. it transitions as the following | 14:19 |
| Michalxo | but htat notification bug anooyes me more and shutdown process is not good too :-/ | 14:20 |
| natewiebe13 | boot, xsplash, gdm, xsplash, desktop: where gdm and desktop share a different background than xsplash | 14:20 |
| cdE|Woozy | you could try adding "-b /path/to/custom/background.jpg" to xsplash in /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default | 14:22 |
| cdE|Woozy | I don't know whether it actually works yet, but xsplash --help lists that as a way so specify the background image | 14:23 |
| cdE|Woozy | s/so/to/ | 14:23 |
| natewiebe13 | there is also a background image in /usr/share/images/xsplash | 14:33 |
| natewiebe13 | cdE|Woozy: heres what i get from the 'Default' file | 14:47 |
| natewiebe13 | PATH="/usr/bin:$PATH:/bin:/usr/bin" | 14:48 |
| natewiebe13 | if [ -x '/usr/bin/xsplash' ]; | 14:48 |
| natewiebe13 | then | 14:48 |
| natewiebe13 | /usr/bin/xsplash & | 14:48 |
| natewiebe13 | fi | 14:48 |
| natewiebe13 | where should i stick the -b | 14:48 |
| Hirato_ | probably before the & | 14:48 |
| cdE|Woozy | yes | 14:48 |
| natewiebe13 | alright i'll give it a shot and let you know.. | 14:49 |
| natewiebe13 | alright.. halfway there | 14:52 |
| natewiebe13 | i get the custom background after login | 14:52 |
| natewiebe13 | how about before the gdm? | 14:52 |
| natewiebe13 | cdE|Woozy: any ideas? | 14:53 |
| natewiebe13 | Hirato_: any ideas? | 14:54 |
| Hirato_ | I was just stating the obvious, I really don't know :P | 14:54 |
| natewiebe13 | where's the startup script located? | 14:54 |
| natewiebe13 | /etc/init/rc.conf? | 14:55 |
| natewiebe13 | nope | 14:56 |
| natewiebe13 | if [ -x '/usr/bin/xsplash' ]; whats that refering to? | 14:57 |
| natewiebe13 | few problem: im getting a white screen after the desktop is starting to appear, notify-osd is showing up on the right hand side in the middle of the screen, and grub is not silent anymore | 15:01 |
| natewiebe13 | anyone else having any of the same problems? | 15:01 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, heheh this is that notification bug I mentioned few hours ago | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | natewiebe13, id you did an update today run update-grub | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | if | 15:05 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, richardcavell> Bug 419894 | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419894 | 15:05 |
| Michalxo | haha it's a FEATURE not a bug :) | 15:06 |
| natewiebe13 | really? | 15:06 |
| natewiebe13 | i say its a bug | 15:06 |
| natewiebe13 | about the custom background.. i emailed kenvandine.. so i'll share the answer when i get it | 15:07 |
| natewiebe13 | BluesKaj: im going to test and see if grub is silent.. thanks for the info | 15:07 |
| natewiebe13 | BluesKaj: its still not silent | 15:11 |
| natewiebe13 | also anyone not getting their computer to shutdown? mine comes to a prompt after the shutdown splash | 15:12 |
| cdE|Woozy | natewiebe13, the if-statement checks whether xsplash is installed. if it is, it is started | 15:12 |
| natewiebe13 | okay thanks | 15:12 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: Hi | 15:15 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, it's a feature... not a bug :) | 15:15 |
| rleeds | Hey all | 15:15 |
| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: sadly | 15:15 |
| richardcavell | yeah | 15:15 |
| richardcavell | lol | 15:15 |
| richardcavell | well I think the feature should be turned off | 15:16 |
| natewiebe13 | exactly | 15:16 |
| natewiebe13 | richardcavell: know much about xsplash? | 15:16 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, you were a bit faster then me :D | 15:16 |
| rleeds | Notify-OSD just started showing notifications in the middle of the screen. Looks like bug #418731 "fix". Is this configurable? | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 418731 in notify-osd "Position notifications on each side of the horizontal axis of the screen" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418731 | 15:17 |
| richardcavell | natewiebe13: only that it keeps breaking my karmic | 15:17 |
| natewiebe13 | richardcavell: trying to change the background of xsplash.. i have it changed after gdm, but not before.. any ideas? | 15:17 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: by the way that problem of karmic not shutting down appears to be almost universal with the 2.6.31-7 kernel | 15:17 |
| natewiebe13 | so its the kernel.. | 15:18 |
| natewiebe13 | :( | 15:18 |
| natewiebe13 | lol | 15:18 |
| Michalxo | i think so.. in -6 it was ok... | 15:18 |
| richardcavell | natewiebe13: you get gdm? Luxury! | 15:18 |
| richardcavell | natewiebe13: yeah, it's the kernel | 15:18 |
| Michalxo | :) | 15:18 |
| richardcavell | I've never seen a login screen since upgrading from Jaunty | 15:18 |
| natewiebe13 | richardcavell: xsplash would be fine.. but i have a custom gdm.. so the wallpaper changes are annoying | 15:18 |
| natewiebe13 | richardcavell: any idea where the startup script would be that would trigger xsplash? | 15:19 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, I upgraded from jaunty and it was OK here :) | 15:20 |
| richardcavell | natewiebe13: no | 15:21 |
| richardcavell | I am struggling getting things like sound and login screen to work | 15:21 |
| richardcavell | I might go buy Snow Leopard on the weekend and use that till Karmic release | 15:21 |
| natewiebe13 | richardcavell: ive got no probs here.. with the gdm.. is it that you have an automatic login? | 15:21 |
| bjsnider | you might buy a snow leopard? that would be expensive. and it would likely eat your computer, and you too | 15:22 |
| richardcavell | natewiebe13: to be honest I think it's been fixed over the last couple of days | 15:22 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, for help about sound go to #alsa or #pulseaudio ;) | 15:22 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: been there | 15:23 |
| richardcavell | really helpful guys | 15:23 |
| Michalxo | ;( | 15:23 |
| richardcavell | but it's not a config thing | 15:23 |
| richardcavell | On Jaunty and OS X and Win 7 my sound is flawless | 15:23 |
| Michalxo | so some PAudio thing? | 15:24 |
| richardcavell | y | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | richardcavell, do you have a pc soundcard or onboard ? | 15:26 |
| Q-FUNK | hi! I'm curious of how one can change the GDM theme back to what we had in Jaunty? | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | pci that is | 15:26 |
| richardcavell | onboard (laptop) | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | oh , prolly an intel chip | 15:26 |
| richardcavell | y | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | !intelhda | 15:27 |
| ubottu | For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto | 15:27 |
| Q-FUNK | WARNING: WARNING: /usr/share/pyshared/lsb_release.py is linked but does not belong to any package. | 15:29 |
| Q-FUNK | am I the only one who gets this? | 15:29 |
| natewiebe13 | Q-FUNK: i think you can only change the background, icons, and text | 15:29 |
| natewiebe13 | i got that too | 15:29 |
| natewiebe13 | i just ignored it | 15:29 |
| richardcavell | Q-FUNK: me three | 15:29 |
| Q-FUNK | natewiebe13: I've been trying to find out how to get our good old login. that crap we currently have in karmic reminds me too much of XDM. | 15:30 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, there used to be some notification-settings GUI for setting where you want to show notifications... but I can;t find it for karmic :-/ | 15:30 |
| natewiebe13 | im still trying to find where xsplash is called | 15:31 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: around? | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | Q-FUNK, yeah, that's a normal warning , I was told to ignore it yesterday , doesn't mean anything is broken ...will be fixed soon | 15:35 |
| Michalxo | daamn, that PA is pretty bugged :-/ | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | Michalxo, afraid so ...i dumped it , fortunatly my souncard driver and alsa are working fine without it. | 15:44 |
| Michalxo | :) | 15:44 |
| Michalxo | well it works, but for instance when I reach the lowest global level | 15:45 |
| Michalxo | and then want to make it louder it just wont let me... application volume stays at the lowest level tough, so I have to turn in up manually... | 15:45 |
| Michalxo | and doublelick on volume icon does not bring up the volume-controller.... | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | you mean master level , ok do you have alsa-utils installed? | 15:46 |
| natewiebe13 | alright.. i found the file to get the custom background for the first xsplash | 15:47 |
| cdE|Woozy | Michalxo, the notification settings gui was for the old notification system, I think the position for notify-osd is pretty much hardcoded and not intended to be configurable | 15:48 |
| natewiebe13 | the files are both named 'Default'.. one is under /etc/gdm/Init/ and the other is under /etc/gdm/PreSession/ | 15:48 |
| natewiebe13 | and the throbber is being fixed right now.. (email from ken vandine) | 15:49 |
| cdE|Woozy | nice :) | 15:50 |
| natewiebe13 | yup.. now i have a smooth xsplash :) | 15:50 |
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| natewiebe13 | http://www.wiebeswheels.com/Screenshot-1.png : there is a screenshot of my xsplash | 15:55 |
| natewiebe13 | cupsddk and cups-ppdc are conflicting.. anyone else experiencing this? | 15:57 |
| Innomen | hi all is it possible to upgrade from jaunty to karmic or must i reinstall completely? | 16:11 |
| arand | Innomen: update-manager -d | 16:11 |
| arand | Innomen: expect Karmic to break. | 16:11 |
| Innomen | arand, the machine in question cannot reach the net, that is why io wish to upgrade | 16:11 |
| Innomen | could i update the machine from a live cd for example? | 16:12 |
| natewiebe13 | imo i would do a clean install | 16:13 |
| Cyberkilla | At the moment, many users are reporting that they cannot shutdown. | 16:13 |
| natewiebe13 | the new kernel | 16:13 |
| Cyberkilla | It hangs on a black screen with a flashing cursor | 16:13 |
| Innomen | well obviously if i plan on doing a clean install i should attempt an upgrade first since a clean insteall is what you do when you break everything :) | 16:13 |
| Innomen | i upgraded the kernel already | 16:13 |
| x1250 | natewiebe13, why? I would try to upgrade first. If it breaks badly, reinstall, if it breaks badly, jaunty again :) | 16:14 |
| Cyberkilla | Requiring them to hard reset or do ALT+SysRq+b. | 16:14 |
| Innomen | so, can one upgrade offline? | 16:14 |
| Cyberkilla | I think you need to do more than just b, but that's all I do. | 16:14 |
| natewiebe13 | x1250: usually always breaks for me when i have done an upgrade | 16:14 |
| arand | ah, um... I guess the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD for CD-upgrade applies in this case as well? | 16:14 |
| natewiebe13 | Innomen, i would wait until sept 3rd though | 16:15 |
| Innomen | dude | 16:15 |
| Innomen | letrs assume i want what i want and i'm sure about it :) | 16:15 |
| natewiebe13 | since you dont have internet on that one.. might as well wait until the next alpha | 16:15 |
| x1250 | natewiebe13, yea, depends a lot on your hardware (and luck). | 16:15 |
| natewiebe13 | true | 16:16 |
| Innomen | so can an upgrade be done offline? | 16:16 |
| Innomen | or are we not sure | 16:16 |
| arand | Innomen: using http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20090826.1/ along with above linked instructions should do that, if all goes well. | 16:16 |
| Innomen | i'll read, thank you :) | 16:17 |
| natewiebe13 | Innomen: i would wait until the kernel is updated.. its really annoying not being able to shut down | 16:17 |
| Innomen | OMG | 16:17 |
| Innomen | natewiebe13, i get it! you've told me what YOU would do like 10 times now | 16:17 |
| Innomen | me not want do you do, me want do i do :) | 16:18 |
| natewiebe13 | once what i would do, and 2 times what you should do | 16:18 |
| Innomen | i'm not going to paste the log at you | 16:19 |
| Innomen | i have a cd to downloa apprently, thank you all for your time :) | 16:19 |
| Cyberkilla | weird | 16:43 |
| Cyberkilla | Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next art drop, because today's was a nonevent, as far as I can tell. | 16:44 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, got any news about that notifications? | 16:47 |
| natewiebe13 | if it was fixed? | 16:47 |
| natewiebe13 | Cyberkilla: xsplash is doin stuff | 16:47 |
| Michalxo | yeah that notifications... pretty distracting | 16:48 |
| Cyberkilla | Yes, it is, but what on earth is it doing? Vertical scrolls?:O | 16:48 |
| Cyberkilla | And yes, my notifications are all over the place now. | 16:48 |
| natewiebe13 | notifications are still messed | 16:48 |
| natewiebe13 | and now xsplash isnt just flickering the old wallpaper | 16:49 |
| Michalxo | Cyberkilla, I haven't seen 2 notifications at same time from update :-/ | 16:51 |
| Michalxo | Cyberkilla, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/419894 | 16:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:51 |
| Cyberkilla | thanks | 16:52 |
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| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: just need two people to send you a message | 16:54 |
| natewiebe13 | Michalxo: i dont think one person can alone | 16:54 |
| Michalxo | natewiebe13, message? | 16:54 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. with your name in front (just like i did above) | 16:55 |
| natewiebe13 | to get two notifications to show up | 16:55 |
| AnAnt | Hello, is anyone using kernel 2.6.31-7 ? | 17:13 |
| richardcavell | AnAnt: yes | 17:13 |
| natewiebe13 | yup | 17:13 |
| richardcavell | AnAnt: let's guess your complaint | 17:13 |
| richardcavell | shutdown not working? | 17:13 |
| natewiebe13 | not shutting down? | 17:13 |
| AnAnt | yes, that's one | 17:13 |
| natewiebe13 | nice.. i subscribed to that bug | 17:14 |
| richardcavell | AnAnt: then join the queue | 17:14 |
| natewiebe13 | bug #418509 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 418509 in linux-meta "[Karmic] Hangs during shutdown with kernel 2.6.31-7" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418509 | 17:14 |
| AnAnt | ok, I just got this reply from -kernel : 18:13 >rtg_< AnAnt, -7 is killing kittens. -8.28 is in the pipeline. | 17:14 |
| richardcavell | AnAnt: don't you mean 2.6.31-8 is in the pipeline? | 17:16 |
| richardcavell | and that's a pretty serious bug. | 17:16 |
| AnAnt | richardcavell: yup, I think that's what he means | 17:16 |
| Michalxo | richardcavell, what means pipeline? | 17:17 |
| AnAnt | richardcavell: -8 in the pipeline is a bug ? | 17:17 |
| AnAnt | Michalxo: if I understand correctly, it means coming in the way | 17:17 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: pipeline is what fluids flow through. So it means that the item is coming through a series of stages and it will get to us. | 17:17 |
| richardcavell | AnAnt: no, -7 is the buggy one. | 17:18 |
| Michalxo | ah, great then :) | 17:18 |
| AnAnt | oh | 17:18 |
| richardcavell | Michalxo: are you French? | 17:18 |
| Michalxo | nope | 17:18 |
| Michalxo | SVK | 17:18 |
| richardcavell | I notice that there are many dupes of this bug | 17:18 |
| richardcavell | Including one from me | 17:18 |
| oldude67 | ok good its not just me then , i thought i broke my system again with that update...grrrr....:( | 17:18 |
| natewiebe13 | Canadian.. | 17:18 |
| richardcavell | French Canadian? | 17:18 |
| natewiebe13 | nope | 17:18 |
| natewiebe13 | ontario | 17:18 |
| natewiebe13 | but i can kinda speak french | 17:19 |
| richardcavell | When people say "What means...", it often means they're French. | 17:19 |
| AnAnt | LP 414795 | 17:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 414795 in pulseaudio "PC beep no longer works in Karmic alpha4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414795 | 17:19 |
| richardcavell | I don't get sound out of anything other than one app | 17:19 |
| natewiebe13 | (as in the pc speaker)?? | 17:19 |
| oldude67 | well i would much rather have my computer not beeping then not shutting down right... | 17:19 |
| natewiebe13 | pc speaker or a beep through the speakers? | 17:20 |
| natewiebe13 | if its from the pcspeaker.. im glad.. now i dont have to blacklist pcspkr on every ubuntu machine i install | 17:20 |
| AnAnt | natewiebe13: I can't really be sure on a laptop ! | 17:21 |
| itswhatev | anybody who uses virtualbox know if they have an irc channel? | 17:21 |
| natewiebe13 | true | 17:21 |
| oldude67 | and i dont think its so much the kernel as it is with one of the upgrades ,cause i had the -7 kernel installed for a couple of days no problem, then did distro-upgrade and thats when it went screwy. | 17:21 |
| AnAnt | natewiebe13: pcspkr is blacklisted in karmic now | 17:21 |
| Michalxo | itswhatev, /join #virtualbox | 17:21 |
| natewiebe13 | AnAnt: which is good.. | 17:21 |
| oldude67 | itswhatev, i also think they have #vbox too | 17:22 |
| AnAnt | natewiebe13: sure, but if someone needs it & modprobe's it, it should work | 17:22 |
| natewiebe13 | AnAnt: i get sound, so its from the pcspkr that the bug is about.. but since its blacklisted.. i dont think its a bug | 17:22 |
| AnAnt | natewiebe13: btw, the bug is that I don't get a beep ! | 17:22 |
| natewiebe13 | and you unlisted it? | 17:22 |
| natewiebe13 | *removed it from blacklist* | 17:23 |
| AnAnt | natewiebe13: ah, you mean I should do so ? | 17:23 |
| natewiebe13 | if you dont get a beep.. remove the line "blacklist pcspkr" from blacklist.conf ... then restart and see if you get a beep | 17:23 |
| oldude67 | AnAnt, um yeah if you want it to beep. | 17:23 |
| natewiebe13 | if pcspkr is in blacklist.conf that would explain why you dont get a beep.. its blacklisting the pcspeaker on startup | 17:24 |
| AnAnt | natewiebe13: I thought that modprobing it after boot would do | 17:25 |
| AnAnt | but prolly you're right | 17:25 |
| natewiebe13 | nope | 17:25 |
| AnAnt | blacklisting it could be causing something else to take its place | 17:25 |
| natewiebe13 | maybe.. but try what i said | 17:26 |
| natewiebe13 | make sure you restart after changing the blacklist.conf file | 17:26 |
| RagnarokAngel | anyone running empathy want to help me test if I can make audio calls now? I keep getting an error, and want to be sure before I file a bug | 17:33 |
| Michalxo | RagnarokAngel, PM? | 17:33 |
| RagnarokAngel | Michalxo: sure | 17:34 |
| itswhatev | ugh.. this vbox channel is all idle'rs | 17:34 |
| AnAnt | yeah, will do this now | 17:40 |
| tanath | i was chainloading grub2 from grub1, but the last update eliminated grub1 and now i can't choose which kernel to boot >.< | 17:54 |
| tanath | when i installed grub2 it said to run a command to get rid of grub1 after i've tested it, so why would it do that without asking? | 17:55 |
| sparr | i have no audio in flash in firefox, anyone else experiencing that issue? | 18:03 |
| tanath | i've had occasional audio issues, usually with flash. sometimes it gets muted or the settings get changed | 18:05 |
| RagnarokAngel | sparr: somtimes flash is muted, sometimes it isn't for me | 18:17 |
| sparr | any idea what causes that? | 18:17 |
| sparr | tanath: are those settings displayed somewhere? | 18:17 |
| tanath | you in gnome? | 18:18 |
| tanath | look at the volume thingy in notification area | 18:19 |
| tanath | there's settings/prefs in clicking it and right-clicking it | 18:19 |
| tanath | my gnome's not working though, so i can't tell you exactly | 18:19 |
| tanath | or there's the Sounds applet in menus @ top | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | wow... gnome has so many problems..and people say KDE has issues... ;) | 18:20 |
| billybigrigger | hey all | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | billybigrigger: hi | 18:22 |
| billybigrigger | root@sysresccd /mnt % chroot /mnt/root | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/zsh': No such file or directory | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | does that mean anything to anyone? | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | i'm in a rescuecd and can't chroot into my broken karmic partition :( | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | i'm ready to chuck this drive out the window haha | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | root@sysresccd /mnt % chroot /mnt/root | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/zsh': No such file or directory | 18:23 |
| billybigrigger | zsh must be a shell or something i don't have installed??? | 18:24 |
| billybigrigger | think a sym link from bash to zsh would work? | 18:24 |
| DanaG | you can just chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash | 18:25 |
| billybigrigger | fair enough | 18:25 |
| DanaG | that is, pass the shell as a parameter. =þ | 18:25 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: do you have pcpksr blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ? | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: nope | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: http://pastebin.com/f515ed44e | 18:26 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: it is blacklisted | 18:26 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: look at the end of the file | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: btw the new kernel hangs on shutdown.... like 20 pc of the bar in usplash remains wherein i have to manually shut it down | 18:26 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: yeah, it's a known bug | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: oh yeah now i see it | 18:27 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: -8 on the way | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | yayy | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: do you have the bug no. for that? | 18:28 |
| billybigrigger | yay. | 18:31 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: 418509 | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: thanks | 18:32 |
| AnAnt | np | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: i never noticed they black listed the moudle with the new kernel :P | 18:32 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: mac_v mentioned that in the bug I reported about PC beep | 18:33 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: beep works for you now,right ? | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: not right now | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | since its still blacklisted | 18:34 |
| AnAnt | shadeslayer: but if you modprobe pcspkr it will work,right ? | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | hold | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | AnAnt: nope | 18:35 |
| AnAnt | oh, ok | 18:36 |
| RagnarokAngel | is there any reason xrandr would crash my system? | 18:36 |
| AnAnt | bye | 18:38 |
| bjsnider | if they want xsplash to replace usplash they'll have to start the x server at about the same time they load the kernel | 18:48 |
| mac_v | bjsnider: thats the goal :) | 18:49 |
| xcdfgkjhgcv | Anyone else here with an Eee PC 901 experiencing Wi-Fi problems? | 18:49 |
| mac_v | bjsnider: actually xsplash wont replace usplash , it will just cover it , we will still see usplash on shutdown | 18:49 |
| * shadeslayer hopes they fix the kernel first :P | 18:50 | |
| * mac_v scared of rebooting , due to -7 kernel shutdown probs | 18:50 | |
| shadeslayer | mac_v: same here.....i force a shutdown or use a old kernel | 18:50 |
| mac_v | shadeslayer: i'm having to do a force fsck every time! | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | mac_v: hehe | 18:51 |
| mac_v | the / just gets corrupted due to hard shutdown! | 18:52 |
| ikonia | shadeslayer: what's up with the kernel you're using ? | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | ikonia: oh its a known bug,the kernel hangs during the shutdown | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | ikonia: then you have press down the power button to force a shutdown | 19:22 |
| billybigrigger | anyone having problems with ubuntuone-syncdeamon and %100 cpu? | 19:28 |
| tillux | hi there. I just encountered a funny little "bug" that might be pretty annoying to first-users, after first-installation, I think: If the hardware clock is adjusted (automatically )to match the correct time(-zone etc) (directly after installation) it might be the case that the last mount time is e.g. 1 hour ahead of the current time, which will lead fsck to fail upon booting, so that you have to adjust the clock in bios... | 19:33 |
| mac_v | ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418509 the kernel bug | 19:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 418509 in linux "[Karmic] Hangs during shutdown with kernel 2.6.31-7" [High,Triaged] | 19:34 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| natewiebe13 | so anyone know if the updated xsplash is what today's art drop is? | 20:12 |
| natewiebe13 | or how to fix the annoying notifications? | 20:13 |
| x1250 | guys, what is the naming convention for git versions? I'm creating x264 package from git commit 448b1387254bbf186b83db0fd393477ea1d01a55 | 20:16 |
| DanaG | weird... gnome-power--manager is no longer showing the brightness thingy. | 20:16 |
| x1250 | bah, wrong channel :( | 20:17 |
| billybigrigger | bah | 20:17 |
| billybigrigger | anyone ubuntuone users here? | 20:17 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: grub is no longer silent.. where do i put it back? | 20:17 |
| natewiebe13 | billybigrigger: i use ubuntuone | 20:18 |
| billybigrigger | are you getting %100 cpu usage from it | 20:18 |
| DanaG | hmm, edit the "linux default" thingy in in /etc/default/grub | 20:18 |
| billybigrigger | ubuntuone-syncdeamon has spawned a gazillion instances and is slowwwwing me doooown | 20:18 |
| natewiebe13 | ive got 0% usage | 20:18 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: what line | 20:19 |
| billybigrigger | haha look at this | 20:19 |
| billybigrigger | http://pastebin.ca/1544963 | 20:19 |
| DanaG | hmm, wait, you're talking about grub itself being quiet? | 20:19 |
| DanaG | Do you have other OSes, and want it to still be silent | 20:19 |
| DanaG | ? | 20:20 |
| natewiebe13 | yes, unless i press the ESC key | 20:20 |
| natewiebe13 | billybigrigger: haha.. crazyness | 20:20 |
| DanaG | GRUB_DEFAULT=0 | 20:20 |
| DanaG | GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 | 20:20 |
| DanaG | perhaps set that? | 20:21 |
| billybigrigger | killall ubuntuone-sync does nothin | 20:21 |
| billybigrigger | i can't seem to kill it | 20:21 |
| DanaG | timeout zero means it doesn't prompt for a key... you have to already be holding a key (such as shift) to get the menu. | 20:21 |
| natewiebe13 | timeout is set to 10, but there is hidden timeout | 20:21 |
| DanaG | weird, mine doesn't have that parameter. | 20:22 |
| DanaG | try this: aptitude changelog grub2 | 20:22 |
| natewiebe13 | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX whats that? | 20:22 |
| DanaG | and then check the notes there. | 20:22 |
| diverse_izzue | i have a problem since about two days that karmic hangs on shutdown. anyone else? | 20:22 |
| DanaG | that cmdline is where I put my console=ttyS0 console=tty0 arguments, for example. | 20:22 |
| natewiebe13 | diverse_izzue: there is a bug.. its the kernel | 20:22 |
| DanaG | the LINUX_DEFAULT is where "quiet splash" goes. | 20:23 |
| natewiebe13 | i have | 20:23 |
| natewiebe13 | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" | 20:23 |
| natewiebe13 | and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" | 20:23 |
| diverse_izzue | natewiebe13, do you happen to know the LP bug #? | 20:23 |
| natewiebe13 | diverse_izzue: one sec | 20:23 |
| natewiebe13 | diverse_izzue: bug #418509 | 20:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 418509 in linux "[Karmic] Hangs during shutdown with kernel 2.6.31-7" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418509 | 20:24 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: i'll try putting "quiet splash" under cmdline linux and see if that helps | 20:24 |
| diverse_izzue | natewiebe13, thanks. another thing: notify-osd misplaces notifications (middle of the screen on the right edge) - is that also known? | 20:25 |
| natewiebe13 | back in 2 min | 20:25 |
| natewiebe13 | yes | 20:25 |
| DanaG | All that changes is the usplash behavior. | 20:25 |
| DanaG | not grub behavior. | 20:25 |
| natewiebe13 | diverse_izzue: it should be on the top right.. its a new feature but people are trying to get it back to top right (bug #419894) | 20:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419894 | 20:26 |
| DanaG | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1251304 | 20:27 |
| natewiebe13 | grub still appears.. | 20:29 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: mind taking a look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/260505/ | 20:31 |
| DanaG | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7854520 | 20:32 |
| DanaG | Looks like your issue is the reverse of this one. | 20:32 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. | 20:34 |
| DanaG | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-August/000599.html | 20:34 |
| DanaG | When I get home, I'll check what it's like on my no-other-os-installed spare laptop/. | 20:34 |
| natewiebe13 | it was fine until the update this morning with xsplash | 20:37 |
| natewiebe13 | which looks good after i replaced the background with what im using for my desktop and for the gdm | 20:38 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: have you seen the new xsplash yet with the throbber? | 20:39 |
| DanaG | Yeah, it's rather hideous. | 20:40 |
| DanaG | It's like a twitchy, jiggly line. | 20:40 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: they just have the direction of the throbber mixed up.. ken vandine said they are already working on a fix. | 20:42 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsplash/+bug/412598 | 20:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412598 in xsplash "Xsplash only uses the default wallpaper during transition to desktop." [Undecided,Invalid] | 20:43 |
| DanaG | Hmm, it might be good for them to make the wallpaper be set in an actual .conf file, at the very least. | 20:43 |
| DanaG | One for each stage. | 20:43 |
| DanaG | Otherwise, people will have to edit the gdm files, and dpkg-divert them to not get trampled. | 20:43 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. i have changed mine already.. it was kind of a pain to find them though | 20:44 |
| DanaG | They should break it into two stages: boot -> gdm, and then gdm -> desktop. | 20:45 |
| DanaG | And have two settable images. | 20:46 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. right now its under PreSession and Init.. but you can have 2 settable images that way | 20:46 |
| DanaG | For example, Win7 does one thing until the login screen pops up, and then keeps the login screen background up until desktop is ready. | 20:46 |
| DanaG | "Also, we can't use two backgrounds (which one would you see in the autologin case?)." | 20:47 |
| DanaG | Which one? The first one, of course! | 20:47 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsplash/+bug/412598 | 20:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412598 in xsplash "Xsplash only uses the default wallpaper during transition to desktop." [Undecided,Invalid] | 20:48 |
| DanaG | new comment just added. | 20:48 |
| natewiebe13 | i dont know with autologin.. but with the gdm.. /Init/Default changes the first wallpaper and /PreSession/Default changes after the gdm | 20:49 |
| DanaG | interesting... switching off compiz saves about two watts. | 20:50 |
| itswhatev | anyone have any problem running "pppd call XXX" ? i get nothing | 20:51 |
| DanaG | heh, playing music over a bluetooth headset while on battery... that's two "bad things" at once: bluetooth, and keeping hard drive spun up. | 20:51 |
| natewiebe13 | DanaG: do you have autologin enabled? | 20:52 |
| DanaG | Not right now. | 20:52 |
| DanaG | But I believe without xsplash, it does go from blank directly to desktop. | 20:52 |
| natewiebe13 | okay | 20:53 |
| natewiebe13 | with the bugreport it said 2 backgrounds? | 20:53 |
| natewiebe13 | warty-final and the users? | 20:53 |
| DanaG | I changed my gdm login-screen wallpaper itself -- that's what makes it more noticeable. | 20:53 |
| natewiebe13 | same.. | 20:53 |
| natewiebe13 | so i changed the grub default files | 20:54 |
| natewiebe13 | (just trying to understand what the bug is about) | 20:54 |
| DanaG | Try changing the gdm user's wallpaper -- that'll make it especially noticeable. | 20:54 |
| DanaG | Perhaps it would be good to have the xsplash boot-stage wallpaper be one symlink, the xsplash post-login wallpaper be another symlink, and the gdm user's wallpaper default to point at one or the other. | 20:54 |
| DanaG | Probably point to the latter. | 20:55 |
| natewiebe13 | okay.. thats what the bug report is saying? | 20:55 |
| DanaG | Yeah, and sort of about how there's no easy way to set these things. | 20:56 |
| natewiebe13 | okay | 20:57 |
| DanaG | Could not load image 'warty-final-ubuntu.png'. | 20:57 |
| DanaG | Fatal error reading PNG image file: Not a PNG file | 20:57 |
| DanaG | =þ | 20:57 |
| natewiebe13 | karmic is still alpha.. so there isnt normally an easy way | 20:57 |
| DanaG | /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 | 20:57 |
| DanaG | =þ | 20:57 |
| DanaG | It'd be nice to be able to customize those two stages of xsplash, even if they do default to being the same. | 20:58 |
| natewiebe13 | so the kernel is fixed.. anyone know when its going to show up in the repos? | 20:59 |
| andresmh | after applying the latest updates i have sreadahead eating 80% of my CPU | 21:00 |
| andresmh | any ideas? | 21:00 |
| natewiebe13 | how about why they are still doing development on putting the notifications in the middle of the screen? | 21:03 |
| DanaG | They're crazy; that's all I can think of. | 21:04 |
| DanaG | And now they've even broken the older gnome-power-manager brightness display, somehow. | 21:04 |
| natewiebe13 | there is an update for 0.9.19 | 21:05 |
| natewiebe13 | according to macslow.net: experiment with centering bubbles vertically | 21:06 |
| cPF | and now suddenly kernel is downgraded to 2.6.30-1 by default... interesting | 21:06 |
| DanaG | "enforce notification-spam protection" -- well, thank goodness for THAT, at least! | 21:14 |
| === giovani_ is now known as giovani | ||
| === zorael_ is now known as Zorael | ||
| natewiebe13 | anyone know if there is a way to turn of notify-osd until they get it fixed with out removing it? | 21:19 |
| natewiebe13 | *turn off | 21:19 |
| === Unksi_ is now known as unksi | ||
| lamalex | is it too late to propose new packages for universe? | 21:22 |
| lamalex | oh shit today is feature freeze | 21:22 |
| lamalex | when does that officially happen? | 21:22 |
| jussi01 | lamalex: undefined time | 21:23 |
| jussi01 | lamalex: and watch the language please | 21:23 |
| lamalex | sorry | 21:24 |
| lamalex | is there a doc about how to get something into the NEW queue | 21:24 |
| jussi01 | lamalex: probably best addressed in #ubuntu-motu | 21:27 |
| lamalex | hm, i actually thought that's where I was.. | 21:27 |
| lamalex | fail | 21:27 |
| Michalxo_ | any new info about this "bug"/feature? | 21:34 |
| Michalxo_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/419894 | 21:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] | 21:34 |
| === Richie is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| Arenlor | Are there any major bugs in Karmic? | 21:39 |
| Michalxo_ | read FAQ on ubuntu karmic alpha 4 web page ;) | 21:40 |
| andresmh | everytime i insert a USB thumbdrive (I've tried about 5 of them) I get this error: mount: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb" http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/285483/tmp/screenshot34.png | 21:44 |
| andresmh | is this a bug with karmic or something on my end? | 21:44 |
| hggdh | andresmh, I do not have this problem here | 21:47 |
| Arenlor | I'm already using ext4, so that's no problem. GRUB 2 will be fun to try. It supports booting from ext4 correct? | 21:48 |
| genii | Arenlor: Works fine here | 21:49 |
| Arenlor | Great, will upgrade my boot partition as a test then. | 21:49 |
| Arenlor | Better than anything, I have a bootable thumb drive with 9.04 alt install disk on it ^_^' so not afraid of problems. | 21:50 |
| andresmh | i cannot even mount cd's | 21:50 |
| Michalxo | guys, ahve you updated your notifications? | 21:53 |
| aboSamoor | kernel 2.6.31-8.28 is out and I still can not get it, any explanation ? | 21:54 |
| Michalxo | daamn, that new notifications are baaad | 21:54 |
| DanaG | yeah. | 21:55 |
| Michalxo | h but mathematics still the same | 21:55 |
| Michalxo | please post comment here... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/419894 | 21:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] | 21:55 |
| Michalxo | DanaG, they call it a FEATURE | 21:56 |
| Michalxo | it's rubbish not a feature | 21:56 |
| Arenlor | It's not a bug, it's a feature! | 21:58 |
| bucky | i want to use a torrent client to find some random file out on the internets... which should i use | 21:58 |
| Michalxo | Arenlor, but it;s crap feature | 21:59 |
| Arenlor | That's not how torrents work | 21:59 |
| andresmh | when inserting a USB I get an error. I did dmesg | tail and this is what I found: http://pastebin.com/d6a066f2d | 21:59 |
| Arenlor | Michalxo: It's the basic excuse when a 'bug' like that pops up. | 21:59 |
| bucky | that's what i thought.. i used to do this but can't remember what i used | 21:59 |
| andresmh | I've tried different USBs, different sizes and formats (fat, ext4, ext3, etc) | 21:59 |
| BluesKaj | bucky, torrent clients don't find random files unless they are already wrapped as torrent files | 21:59 |
| bucky | ic | 22:00 |
| Arenlor | bucky: What exactly do you want to do? | 22:00 |
| Michalxo | ae | 22:00 |
| Michalxo | Arenlor, so you think, that it will be fixed soon? :-/ | 22:00 |
| bucky | Arenlor, see if i can find an old wordperfect deb somewhere | 22:00 |
| Arenlor | Michalxo: Not now that it's a feature. Unless enough people complain. | 22:00 |
| Michalxo | noo | 22:01 |
| Arenlor | bucky, I'd suggest google | 22:01 |
| Michalxo | it's rubbish | 22:01 |
| Michalxo | very stupid feature | 22:01 |
| Michalxo | i'll rather remove whole notifications then using this crap anymore.. | 22:02 |
| === Richie is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| bucky | Arenlor, found something tnx | 22:04 |
| Michalxo | btw anyone who uses new notifications like it?? | 22:04 |
| Michalxo | it's popping up in the MIDDLE of the screen! for god sake.. | 22:05 |
| Arenlor | What version Firefox is in Karmic? | 22:05 |
| Arenlor | Michalxo: It gets your attention and really notifies you doesn't it? | 22:05 |
| Michalxo | not in middle of the screen | 22:06 |
| Michalxo | while typing/reading articles | 22:06 |
| alankila | the best part about any notification system, I believe, is generally the ability to disable it. | 22:07 |
| alankila | notifications are annoying. And the more insistent they are, the more annoying they get. The best thing you could do would be to gently -- very slowly and gradually -- flash an icon unless it's an actual emergency that needs immediate attention. | 22:08 |
| BluesKaj | Arenlor, there's no default FF version in karmic | 22:08 |
| Arenlor | BluesKaj: What's the default browser then? It had been FF in Jaunty unless I'm confused. | 22:09 |
| BluesKaj | karmic is till alpha , so i suppose whatever you have installed now is it | 22:09 |
| BluesKaj | still | 22:10 |
| BluesKaj | FF3.5 runs fine tho | 22:10 |
| Arenlor | I will have to upgrade to 3.5 then | 22:11 |
| eurythmia_ | if I were to start contributing as a developer, should I do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to karmic, or a clean install? | 22:11 |
| BluesKaj | BBL ... dinner | 22:11 |
| Arenlor | eurythmia_: I'm not really sure. Maybe both? | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | hi | 22:12 |
| Severian | Has the key to bring up the grub menu changed? In Karmic, tab does not seem to do anything. | 22:26 |
| eurythmia_ | so, how does the stability of karmic compare to, say, debian SID? | 22:30 |
| bucky | Severian, ESC doenst work? | 22:30 |
| billybigrigger | clear | 22:31 |
| billybigrigger | close | 22:31 |
| Severian | bucky, I am not sure. I can try booting and hitting ESC. | 22:32 |
| eurythmia_ | billybigrigger: close on the less stable, or the more stale side? | 22:32 |
| eurythmia_ | s/stale/stable/ | 22:32 |
| DanaG | hmm, new package: boson. | 22:32 |
| DanaG | !info boson | 22:32 |
| ubottu | Package boson does not exist in karmic | 22:32 |
| DanaG | Too bad the icons in the game are so damn tiny. | 22:32 |
| bucky | Severian, maybe add more than 3 seconds to your timeout | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | eurythmia_: a bit more unstable | 22:33 |
| DanaG | Try figuring out what unit you're building, based on a 1cm x 1cm icon. | 22:33 |
| bucky | Severian, in /boot/grub/menu.lst | 22:33 |
| DanaG | Yeah, that's tiny. | 22:33 |
| Severian | bucky, not for karmic. | 22:33 |
| bucky | Severian, they did go to grub2 maybe it's different | 22:34 |
| Severian | bucky, karmic uses grub2 and the config files changed a lot. | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | *a LOT* | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | hey billybigrigger | 22:35 |
| billybigrigger1 | ola | 22:35 |
| Innomen | how do i make the alternate cd upgrade instead of flatten? | 22:35 |
| billybigrigger1 | kernel -7 sucks | 22:35 |
| billybigrigger1 | hangs on shutdown :( | 22:35 |
| Innomen | thats known and will be repaired | 22:35 |
| Innomen | to my understanding | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger mine won't even boot | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: flatten ?!? | 22:36 |
| Severian | billybigrigger, I saw a message that -8 is coming soon. -7 is unusable for me,. | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | Severian: +1 | 22:36 |
| Innomen | BUGabundo, wide format erase etc | 22:36 |
| Innomen | wipe | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 22:37 |
| Innomen | i want to upgrade apprently the install cd is able to do this i cant see how | 22:37 |
| billybigrigger1 | anyone aware of a google talk client for console? | 22:37 |
| billybigrigger1 | or pidgin like? with gtalk and msn support? | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | not sure how Alternate cd works this cycle | 22:37 |
| eurythmia_ | billybigrigger: anything that does jabber | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger there are a few | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | I just don't recall the name :( | 22:37 |
| billybigrigger1 | ahh | 22:37 |
| eurythmia_ | billybigrigger: check out bitlbee | 22:37 |
| billybigrigger1 | haha | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: AFAIK once you place the CD it will prompt to be added to sources, and offer upgrade | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | 'cause its newer | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | but it will miss a *lot *of packages | 22:38 |
| Innomen | BUGabundo, you're right | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | update-manager -d should do it better | 22:38 |
| Innomen | thanks man :) | 22:38 |
| Severian | billybigrigger, irssi is supposed to have a plugin for xmpp support. | 22:38 |
| Innomen | oh? | 22:38 |
| Innomen | whats -d do? | 22:38 |
| billybigrigger1 | Severian: oh ya? | 22:38 |
| billybigrigger1 | Severian: i'm in weechat atm | 22:38 |
| Innomen | distribution? | 22:39 |
| danbhfive | Innomen: developer | 22:39 |
| Innomen | oh | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: devel release | 22:39 |
| Innomen | i just feed that to the terminal? | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | danbhfive: no developer, but devel | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: yep | 22:40 |
| Innomen | kewl | 22:40 |
| Severian | billybigrigger, I saw a reference to it this last weekend. I setup ubuntu server on a thin client and have no gui. I plan to look for that plugin, but have not yet. | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | please comment ANY 3rd party repo you have on sources, before upgrading | 22:40 |
| Innomen | ok | 22:40 |
| Innomen | anything else? | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | read techincal over view and release notes | 22:42 |
| Innomen | can i do this with a usb installer or iso? | 22:42 |
| Innomen | i dont have any blanks | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: upgrade??? | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | you don't need media | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | only for fresh installs | 22:44 |
| Innomen | i have no internet on the machine in question | 22:44 |
| Innomen | i have the alternate karmic install iso | 22:44 |
| Innomen | its ony my usb also | 22:44 |
| Innomen | on | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | ahhh | 22:45 |
| Innomen | so how do i tell it to do its thing? | 22:47 |
| Severian | Innomen, Are you asking how to upgrade? | 22:47 |
| Innomen | yes | 22:48 |
| Innomen | offline from media | 22:48 |
| Innomen | booting to the media dosent appear to have an upgrade option | 22:48 |
| Severian | Is your computer currently running Jaunty? | 22:48 |
| Innomen | yes | 22:48 |
| Innomen | trhe machine to be updated is i mean | 22:48 |
| Milos_SD | hi | 22:49 |
| Milos_SD | I installed Karmic in vbox to test it | 22:49 |
| Milos_SD | but I can't do shutdown or restart :S | 22:49 |
| Milos_SD | is there a workaround for that? | 22:50 |
| Innomen | Severian, so, any ideas? | 22:50 |
| Severian | I can look up some details, but first. You know that Karmic is not stable? It is for testing only now. I am not putting it down. This is normal during the alpha testing cycle. | 22:50 |
| Innomen | yea i have everything backed up | 22:50 |
| Innomen | trying to make a dlink card work | 22:51 |
| Innomen | apprenlty it works oob under 9.1 | 22:51 |
| Innomen | i must try | 22:51 |
| Innomen | i been at this all night | 22:51 |
| Innomen | am i like the only one ever to have to update a machine thaqt cant connect to the net? | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: then upgrading to a devel veriosn is not the soluion | 22:52 |
| Innomen | BUGabundo, dude | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | you need newer kernel, and you can get that from mainline PPA | 22:52 |
| Innomen | assume it is please, humor mwe | 22:52 |
| Milos_SD | how can I make xsplash work ? | 22:52 |
| Innomen | all night i said i've done all sorts of shit | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Milos_SD: kernel .27 is broken, get a lower version | 22:52 |
| Severian | From terminal prompt, type these three commands 1. sudo apt-get update 2. sudo apt-get install update-manager 3. sudo update-manager -d | 22:52 |
| Milos_SD | it is updated but I don't have a new xsplash screen | 22:52 |
| Innomen | includeing updateing the kernal | 22:52 |
| Innomen | Severian, offline | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: to kernel ppa?? | 22:53 |
| Innomen | machine doed not have inet | 22:53 |
| Innomen | 020630rc3 | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | Innomen: have you tried to upgrade to kernel ppa, in mainline??? | 22:54 |
| Innomen | explain | 22:55 |
| billybigrigger | why are notifications half way down the side of the screen now? | 22:56 |
| Milos_SD | lol... now gdm screen is so tin :S | 22:57 |
| bucky | Severian, i google and it said to go into cli mode with the c key and search http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1115512.html | 23:00 |
| bucky | you'd think there'd be an easier way | 23:00 |
| Severian | bucky, is your system not booting anymore? I am not sure why you told me that. Is it related to my question above? | 23:02 |
| bucky | Severian, maybe you can just change hiddenmenu to menu ...is that the option? no, i have a single boot machine that works but i haven't gotten into the menu myself | 23:03 |
| bucky | i'll try the boot menu option | 23:03 |
| Severian | bucky, The simple solution I found was to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg I changed the line that said set timeout=0 to say 5 instead of 0. Then, tab worked. The real answer is to edit /etc/default/grub, but I don't know for sure which line to change. | 23:05 |
| billybigrigger | anyone know how to force chromium to open deluge instead of transmission? | 23:06 |
| Michalxo | Arenlor, haha! changed the source code and fixed it! :D | 23:07 |
| Michalxo | better then removing whole notifications :) | 23:07 |
| bucky | Severian, that's good to know... tnx | 23:08 |
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| sparr | i have no audio in flash in firefox, anyone have a fix for that issue? | 23:35 |
| acicula | unumute sound? | 23:35 |
| billybigrigger | be lucky you have flash :P | 23:35 |
| sparr | acicula: sound works in everything else | 23:35 |
| sparr | acicula: including non-flash things in firefox | 23:35 |
| acicula | iunno | 23:35 |
| * acicula iswatching flash on karmic-current | 23:36 | |
| sparr | i know you don't know, i'm just wasting time replying to your unhelpful comment | 23:36 |
| acicula | it is helpfull | 23:36 |
| acicula | just not for your particular situation evidently | 23:36 |
| acicula | only thing i can think of is making sure you dont have sound deamons running, are you on a clean install or upgrade install? | 23:38 |
| keanu | is there any known bug involving a few CSS issues with firefox on karmic? | 23:43 |
| bjsnider | keanu, what issues? | 23:43 |
| blackest_knight | anyone know why pulse audio seems to require lots of cpu time | 23:44 |
| acicula | it's a software audio mixer | 23:44 |
| acicula | shouldnt grab more then a few percent i think though | 23:45 |
| blackest_knight | its not doing anythin with audio and taking 2/3rds of my cpu | 23:45 |
| acicula | that's abit much | 23:45 |
| blackest_knight | its almost as bad as evolution a cpl of years back | 23:46 |
| acicula | iunno probably get's stuck somewhere, did you check launchpad for similar bugs? | 23:46 |
| blackest_knight | not yet to be honest it gave me some packages to upgrade yesterday and i'm still trying to recover | 23:47 |
| blackest_knight | the new nvidia driver was quite something | 23:47 |
| blackest_knight | well if it actually installed nvidia.ko it miht have been | 23:48 |
| blackest_knight | then no kernel headers for my kernel, i really shouldnt play with prerelease software | 23:49 |
| acicula | probably | 23:50 |
| acicula | it broke my gsm broadband :P | 23:50 |
| blackest_knight | maybe I should do an over the top install of alpha4 i think it went it on as alpha3 | 23:50 |
| sparr | why would skype think my default audio device is "bluetooth"?? | 23:50 |
| blackest_knight | snap | 23:50 |
| xgpt | hello everyone, where can I download a FULL iso NOT a netboot image of karmic? | 23:51 |
| blackest_knight | acicula: i think the first kernel was ok with gsm | 23:51 |
| sparr | xgpt: one may not have been made yet? | 23:51 |
| acicula | blackest_knight: i lost count | 23:51 |
| keanu | bjsnider, there's a web app called rutorrent that i'm testing, and on karmic, it appears as http://imgur.com/KgLtP.png | 23:51 |
| hggdh | xgpt, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ | 23:52 |
| keanu | mainly, the side 'edges' of the general/files/etc tabs extend past the horizontal line, and the width of the "rTorrent settings" "window" appears to be shorter | 23:52 |
| blackest_knight | its not so bad if its just one system relying on it but I use that Pc to distribute the gsm round the place several people wanting to know why internet wasnt workin | 23:52 |
| xgpt | so should I just do a fresh install of 9.04 and then install the upgrades? | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | !daily | xgpt | 23:52 |
| ubottu | xgpt: Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 23:52 |
| keanu | however, in jaunty, it appears normally - http://imgur.com/T1ExZ.png | 23:52 |
| hggdh | now this is up to you. | 23:52 |
| greg-g | has anyone else been having issues with flash where it won't recognize mouse clicks on sites like youtube? (ie: I can't pause/enlarge/seek in a video) | 23:53 |
| xgpt | hanks | 23:54 |
| xgpt | thanks | 23:54 |
| BUGabundo | greg-g: me | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | I filed it upstream | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | greg-g: but seems much better now | 23:55 |
| sparr | I restarted pulseaudio and now on the gnome sound preferences app, under Applications, I see Skype when it is playing audio, and another Skype when it should be recording, but the entries flash off and on and i hear the audio cut in and out when it flashes. help? | 23:57 |
| keanu | bjsnider, what i find odd though is even when using an older version of firefox (say, 3.0) on karmic it still has the problem, but both 3.0 and 3.5 on jaunty are fine | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | linux-headers-2.6.31-8-generic | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | so we already have .8 ready?? | 23:57 |
| bjsnider | keanu, i've encountered issues like this with 3.5 when the system font size is higher than usual | 23:58 |
| blackest_knight | sparr: your having pulse problems too? | 23:58 |
| sparr | blackest_knight: yes! started with silent flash in firefox, but now im noticing other issues | 23:58 |
| blackest_knight | sparr: does this seem related http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7850330#post7850330 | 23:58 |
| === keith is now known as lifesaglitch | ||
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