| MTec007 | SiDi, it was MPASM and gpasm will compile it :) | 00:09 |
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| SiDi | MTec007, :P | 00:09 |
| SiDi | did you mail them in the end ? :O | 00:09 |
| MTec007 | too many ASM's if you ask me | 00:09 |
| MTec007 | no | 00:09 |
| MTec007 | :( i had to read a really hard to understand technical paper | 00:09 |
| MTec007 | more like skimmed it, rather than read it | 00:10 |
| MTec007 | it worked! | 00:16 |
| * MTec007 removes the ghastly windows partition for good now. | 00:17 | |
| SiDi | :P | 00:17 |
| MTec007 | i have a question for you, cant a windows virus infect wine/ | 00:18 |
| MikeChelen | yes actually it can | 01:28 |
| MikeChelen | although it may have difficulty harming the system since most of the OS is absent | 01:29 |
| SiDi | MikeChelen, there is a paper from the wine devs about it | 02:03 |
| SiDi | it can but it will fail in the vast majority of the cases for different reasons | 02:03 |
| SiDi | which makes running windows apps safer on wine than on windows | 02:03 |
| yesitisjustme | on xubuntu the newest firefox is 3.0.13 can you install a newer firefox? | 02:09 |
| MikeChelen | SiDi, its interesting to explore, because with compatibility also comes some risk | 02:19 |
| SiDi | yeh, but most exploits use some flaws in windows functions | 02:19 |
| SiDi | if theyre implemented differently the flaws are different | 02:19 |
| SiDi | also, windows apis communicate with the windows kernel, not to some linux libs | 02:20 |
| SiDi | things like drivers, emulators and most viruses will never work on wine due to the different system architecture | 02:20 |
| SiDi | only higher level apps using well documented apis can work | 02:20 |
| MikeChelen | yesitisjustme, there is a firefox-3.5 package which will be enabled soon, try the shiretoko package until then which is rebranded ff3.5 | 02:20 |
| SiDi | yesitisjustme, install firefox-3.5 | 02:21 |
| SiDi | and remove the old one if you want to | 02:21 |
| yesitisjustme | ok thanks | 02:21 |
| RiVenoX | is anyone here familiar with xubuntu on the playstation 3? because i'm having issues installing it, even after following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3 | 03:23 |
| RiVenoX | that's about what i expected :D oh well | 03:27 |
| ceda_wrk | I can't find netboot files (initrd.gz and linux) for xubuntu | 07:41 |
| ceda_wrk | I usually do my upgrades/installs like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet | 07:42 |
| ceda_wrk | extracted from alternate-iso | 07:54 |
| tamas_ | how to clean in xubuntu, like defrag or scandisk? | 08:28 |
| TheSheep | no need for that | 08:44 |
| TheSheep | fsck is done at startup | 08:44 |
| TheSheep | defrag is not needed | 08:44 |
| TheSheep | !fsck | ceda_wrk | 08:48 |
| ubottu | ceda_wrk: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot | 08:48 |
| _Pete_ | "sudo touch /fastboot" = shutdown -f | 08:52 |
| _Pete_ | or atleast sometimes was :) | 08:53 |
| tamas_ | thanx for info | 09:27 |
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| _Pete_ | http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ | 12:26 |
| rameshwor | hi guys..... can i have xuubntu 9.04 in my 128 Ram computer ??? | 17:25 |
| TheSheep | yes, but it will be slow | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | especially firefox | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | opera or chrome may be faster | 17:27 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep: ok and except the firefox part ? any other means i can improve speed ? | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | sure, you can disable unneeded services | 17:28 |
| TheSheep | like cups when you are not printing | 17:29 |
| rameshwor | how can i disable unneeded services at startup ? | 17:29 |
| TheSheep | system->services | 17:29 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep :i'm just a general user, i do simple c/c++/java programming stuffs and then internet that's it .. i dont want others. | 17:29 |
| TheSheep | rameshwor: as long as you don't use eclipse for your editor... | 17:30 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep: any locations wher i can download xubuntu of 2005/2004 . hoping that it runs better .. | 17:31 |
| TheSheep | I'm not sure | 17:31 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep: ? | 17:31 |
| TheSheep | I think the wiki has links | 17:31 |
| TheSheep | you may also consider other distros, such as dsl or archlinux | 17:32 |
| rameshwor | ok.. | 17:32 |
| TheSheep | xubuntu has a pretty heavy kernel, so thast it works out of the box everywhere and with anything you connect... | 17:33 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep: what does it mean by it works out of the box / i have encountered it many times but... | 17:34 |
| TheSheep | rameshwor: imagine you buy something, take it out of the box, connect and it just works, without having to install or configure anything | 17:35 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep: oh, so no installing , driver stuffs needed does it mean so ? | 17:36 |
| TheSheep | yes | 17:36 |
| TheSheep | in theory at least :) | 17:36 |
| TheSheep | but in theory, theory is the same as practice ;) | 17:36 |
| rameshwor | TheSheep: ok :) | 17:37 |
| gusig | sudo question | 18:05 |
| rameshwor | gusig: just put the question.. though i dont know other may help | 18:06 |
| SiDi | rameshwor, if you install Xubuntu, you can run it on 128MB | 18:15 |
| SiDi | you'll have to use the alternate CD to install | 18:15 |
| SiDi | once installed i recommand you to disable stuff like avahi and cups, to disable the daemons you dont need among : hardware notifier, update notifier, power manager, bluetooth applet | 18:15 |
| SiDi | but some distros are more adapted to very low amounts of RAM. 128 is the strict minimum for Xubuntu | 18:16 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: ok.. | 18:16 |
| SiDi | (note that for kernel heaviness and daemons running you can disable them after install, but installing only what you need may be faster) | 18:17 |
| SiDi | if xubuntu is too slow, i recommand you to try puppylinux or damnSmallLinux | 18:17 |
| rameshwor | yes, i tried puppy linux.. but it doesn't feel like runnign full linux system. i feel something lacking here/there. .......... | 18:17 |
| rameshwor | i'd be happy to get download link for ubuntu/xubuntu of 2005/2004 i feel it runs well. | 18:18 |
| SiDi | They're not supported anymore | 18:20 |
| SiDi | ie. no more repositories | 18:20 |
| SiDi | the oldest available is 2008.04 | 18:21 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: that doesn't matter. . can't i get from other computer s.? | 18:21 |
| SiDi | rameshwor, you wouldnt be able to get software | 18:21 |
| SiDi | ie. no java, no g++ | 18:22 |
| SiDi | you wouldnt be able to use it for what you want to do | 18:22 |
| SiDi | because the ubuntu repositories for these versions are down | 18:22 |
| SiDi | and probably every of the mirrors too | 18:22 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: then it won't be good...... ok i think time to get a new computer... | 18:22 |
| SiDi | you can try xubuntu 8.04 / 9.04 and to lighten them a little | 18:22 |
| SiDi | but computers with 128 MB rams are indeed old :d | 18:22 |
| SiDi | It's over 8 years old, right, rameshwor ? | 18:23 |
| rameshwor | Of Course... | 18:23 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: actually i had 256 but one of the 128 got damaged.. | 18:23 |
| SiDi | aw | 18:24 |
| SiDi | And which country do you live in ? | 18:24 |
| rameshwor | Nepal . | 18:24 |
| SiDi | That doesn't help to get hardware :/ | 18:25 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: ? couldnt understand u. | 18:25 |
| SiDi | There aren't maybe computer shops in your country, right ? | 18:26 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: c'mon it's not that poor....... there are. .. | 18:27 |
| SiDi | i know its not so poor that there aren't, but it must be more expensive than here, thats what i meant | 18:28 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: yes. it is expensive. and specially for a student like me.. difficult to afford... | 18:28 |
| rameshwor | what's general specifications of computer that people in your country buy ? i mean RAM / PROCESSOR ? | 18:30 |
| SiDi | people here are richer than me :P I'd say the average is a 2GHz processor, 2GB ram, 300GB HDD | 18:32 |
| rameshwor | how much does that cost ? | 18:32 |
| rameshwor | on average ? | 18:32 |
| SiDi | i'd say 500 | 18:32 |
| SiDi | It used to be more expensive but with the netbook wave it became much more affordable :P | 18:33 |
| rameshwor | 500 dollars ? | 18:33 |
| SiDi | 500 € | 18:33 |
| SiDi | thats about 700 dollars | 18:33 |
| rameshwor | oo | 18:34 |
| SiDi | (ofc you can get a decent computer for ~400 dollars but the risk is that it burns 1 year and a half later :x) | 18:34 |
| SiDi | (most of the recent computers i see lived less time than my good old pentium 2) | 18:35 |
| rameshwor | lol. | 18:35 |
| rameshwor | and people generally do not keep old computers so it satisfy their every tasks.. | 18:35 |
| SiDi | it depends. | 18:36 |
| SiDi | usually they give them to associations / libraries / schools | 18:36 |
| rameshwor | * though it ......... | 18:36 |
| TheSheep | my good old XT is still working, and boots faster than my current pc | 18:36 |
| SiDi | some people indeed throw computers away, which is plain stupid >_> I still have my 2001 computer somewhere (quite far though :P) | 18:36 |
| * SiDi goes eat. | 18:42 | |
| SiDi | rameshwor, let us know if you have trouble with Xubuntu install | 18:42 |
| SiDi | i'd try 8.04 if i were you. There probably wont be GPU drivers in 9.04 for your machine if its really old | 18:42 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: OK THANKS. I'LL LET YOU KNOW.. .. | 18:44 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: downloading that takes maybe a day. and then.. i'll come in this room to trouble you guys.. | 18:46 |
| SiDi | rameshwor, aw, if you have a low bandwidth you can use the minimal CD, it weights 9 MB :d | 19:11 |
| SiDi | and then manually install xorg and xfce :P | 19:12 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: ok. | 19:14 |
| SiDi | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso | 19:14 |
| SiDi | This one for 8.04 | 19:14 |
| SiDi | the md5sum is 7e29613f3ce780e79af3cbbcd1127200 if you wanna check after download, rameshwor | 19:15 |
| rameshwor | SiDi: thats minimal ?? | 19:15 |
| SiDi | Yes | 19:17 |
| SiDi | Once it's installed you'll have to install a lot of packages manually though, because it's _really_ minimal | 19:17 |
| SiDi | once it's installed you'll have a shell, basically. Then, install xfce4, xfce4-panel, xfwm4, and thunar, and it should pull in everything it needs | 19:18 |
| SiDi | that should weight much less than the 600 MB of the CD | 19:19 |
| rameshwor | ok but i think i'll go with the other one. because no headache of manual packaging.... just start the download let it run for a day :) | 19:21 |
| SiDi | hehe as you wish | 19:21 |
| rameshwor | ok good bye guys. it's 12 midnigth i'm afraid.. i think i should go to bed.. | 19:33 |
| SiDi | good night rameshwor | 19:40 |
| rameshwor | gudnit.. | 19:42 |
| Pres-Gas | Hey, can someone volunteer their permissions of /dev/rtc for me? I think I may have some issues with it. Just do an simple "ls -l /dev|grep rtc". | 21:15 |
| Pres-Gas | Mine is | 21:15 |
| Pres-Gas | crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 0 2009-08-25 17:09 rtc0 | 21:15 |
| Pres-Gas | Note that rtc may be a link | 21:15 |
| Pres-Gas | so whatever it is pointing to | 21:16 |
| MTec007 | Pres-Gas, ? | 21:21 |
| MTec007 | Pres-Gas, i can show you mine if you still need it | 21:21 |
| Pres-Gas | MTec007, please do | 21:22 |
| MTec007 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-08-26 04:32 rtc -> rtc0 | 21:22 |
| MTec007 | crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 0 2009-08-26 04:32 rtc0 | 21:22 |
| Pres-Gas | that is the same bloody thing!!! | 21:22 |
| Pres-Gas | gerrr to VMware | 21:23 |
| MTec007 | your missing a line? | 21:23 |
| * jarnos lost sounds in Xubuntu karmic. | 21:23 | |
| SiDi | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-08-27 10:41 /dev/rtc -> rtc0 | 21:29 |
| Pres-Gas | SiDi, and rtc0 is crw-rw---- root root? | 21:30 |
| * Pres-Gas wonders if I should have upgraded my VMware workstation from 6.5.2 to 6.5.3 | 21:31 | |
| SiDi | yes | 21:34 |
| MTec007 | im interested in creating some kind of script, to run a program with certain parameters based on what the script paramaters were | 22:11 |
| knome | okay... | 22:12 |
| MTec007 | what im trying to figure out is how i would create something like that. what is the format? maybe there is an example somewhere i can look at | 22:13 |
| knome | bash scripting would be what you want | 22:14 |
| knome | there are many tutorials on the internet | 22:14 |
| mxfr | Hi | 23:48 |
| forces | o7 | 23:48 |
| mxfr | How can I disable restarting, shutting down etc.. from the login page? | 23:48 |
| mxfr | It's just very annoying when somebody shutdown my system when It was downloading stuff for 3 days :( | 23:49 |
| forces | block the screen | 23:50 |
| mxfr | how? | 23:51 |
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| muxfr | or maybe I should just disable the options down there, if I changed the login screen. | 23:56 |
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