| ace_suares | !seen ogra | 02:59 |
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| ubottu | I have no seen command | 02:59 |
| ace_suares | You mean: I didn't see the command. | 02:59 |
| ace_suares | Or are you polish ? | 02:59 |
| mhall119 | are you talking to the bot again? | 03:08 |
| sbalneav | Evening all | 03:19 |
| ace_suares | `bot? | 03:33 |
| ace_suares | what bot? | 03:33 |
| * ace_suares winks at Alan | 03:33 | |
| sbalneav | The info bot running in the channel | 03:33 |
| ace_suares | cant we use the ltsp bot, that has the !seen command (ubottu has not) | 03:34 |
| ace_suares | Hey I am forfeiting a trip to a small uninhabited island tomorrow, so the meeting better be good! | 03:34 |
| sbalneav | Awwwwww | 03:41 |
| sbalneav | If it isn't, you gonna get your money back? :) | 03:42 |
| ace_suares | Just the tought of it being not, is making me reconsider :-) | 03:42 |
| sbalneav | What would make it NOT worth it, I wonder? | 03:45 |
| ace_suares | Low attendace, dwindling focus, multitasking... | 03:45 |
| sbalneav | Multitasking? | 03:46 |
| ace_suares | Yeah like playing warzone and debugging IO.string.jar and phoning your mom during the meeting | 03:47 |
| sbalneav | As for low attendence, even if everyone shows up, it's low attendance. | 03:48 |
| ace_suares | oh yah, i don't agree with that, work with wath you have eh. | 03:48 |
| ace_suares | I am going to watch some tedtalks. See you tamara! | 03:49 |
| sbalneav | If I make it. I may be talking to my mom. | 03:49 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: About? | 03:51 |
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| alkisg | Good morning | 05:36 |
| highvoltage | good morning alkisg | 06:17 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:42 |
| sbalneav | So, what time's the meeting today? | 14:43 |
| alkisg1 | Hi sbalneav! 17:00 utc, wasn't it? | 14:46 |
| alkisg1 | !date | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about date | 14:47 |
| sbalneav | !meeting | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Edubuntu meetings are (usually) held weekly on Wednesdays, alternating between 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC. « @schedule » may show when the next one will be, otherwise check the !fridge. All welcome! | 14:51 |
| sbalneav | @schedule | 14:51 |
| highvoltage | heh, that was some time ago | 15:06 |
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| ace_suares | man the meeting isnt even listed in the fridge | 16:03 |
| sbalneav | ace_suares: No-ones listed it there, I guess | 16:04 |
| ace_suares | sbalneav: logical, so locgical | 16:05 |
| sbalneav | Occam's razor is so very, very sharp :) | 16:05 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock usually handles a lot of the "administrivia" of Edubuntu. Since he's in the process of moving, some of that sort of thing isn't getting done. | 16:06 |
| ace_suares | 17:00 utc is 13:00 GMT-4, right? | 16:08 |
| alkisg | ace_suares: give date -u in a terminal | 16:10 |
| ace_suares | Fri Aug 28 15:14:37 UTC 2009 | 16:14 |
| ace_suares | and it's Fri Aug 28 11:15:00 AST 2009 | 16:15 |
| ace_suares | so 4 hrs difference | 16:15 |
| ace_suares | 13+4=17 | 16:15 |
| ace_suares | I added it to the fridge as in the wiki mentioned it doesn't show up yet | 16:15 |
| Svenstaro | Meeting in 30m? | 17:30 |
| sbalneav | Svenstaro: yep | 17:37 |
| Svenstaro | So meeting on? | 18:05 |
| sbalneav | Svenstaro: yes, in #ubuntu-meeing | 18:05 |
| sbalneav | meeting | 18:05 |
| mercurous23 | hi everyone | 18:31 |
| mercurous23 | i need some help | 18:31 |
| alkisg | !ask | mercurous23 | 18:32 |
| ubottu | mercurous23: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 18:32 |
| mercurous23 | i have problems with the quit button, it is just closing the toolbar without showing the logoff, shutdown and restart window. | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | This on a full desktop, or on a thin client? | 18:34 |
| mercurous23 | full desktp | 18:35 |
| sbalneav | What happens if you hit control-alt-del? | 18:38 |
| mercurous23 | it shows the shutdown options | 18:39 |
| mercurous23 | it might be just the quit applet? | 18:39 |
| sbalneav | Could be. Does this happen all the time, or after a reboot it's ok? | 18:40 |
| mercurous23 | yes it happens all the time | 18:42 |
| sbalneav | Then I'd remove the app from the panel, and try re-adding it. | 18:43 |
| mercurous23 | i already tried that | 18:43 |
| mercurous23 | didnt solve it | 18:44 |
| sbalneav | Hm | 18:45 |
| alkisg | Does the logout dialog from the system menu work? | 18:45 |
| sbalneav | All your updates are up to date? | 18:45 |
| sbalneav | Sounds like some kind of dbus monkeyshines. | 18:45 |
| mercurous23 | yes all are up to date | 18:46 |
| mercurous23 | well i could just use the ctl-alt-del command to shutdown | 18:46 |
| sbalneav | Does alkisg's suggestion work? | 18:46 |
| mercurous23 | yes it does work | 18:47 |
| sbalneav | Hm, so it's just the app on the panel, eh? | 18:47 |
| alkisg | mercurous23: do you mind resetting the panels? should I give you the command? | 18:47 |
| sbalneav | Weird. | 18:47 |
| mercurous23 | okay | 18:47 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, that was what I was going to suggest next. | 18:47 |
| sbalneav | A --recursive-unset | 18:48 |
| alkisg | gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel | 18:48 |
| mercurous23 | thank you guys it is working now | 18:50 |
| mercurous23 | i am also having problem with firefox | 18:50 |
| mercurous23 | i could not run it with going to terminal and using the sudo command | 18:51 |
| alkisg | Running firefox with sudo? Why?!!! | 18:52 |
| mercurous23 | it will always say that firefox is already running when i tried to do normal launch | 18:55 |
| mercurous23 | sorry i am still new with ubuntu | 18:55 |
| sbalneav | Then you've probably got a dead one in the background somewhere | 18:57 |
| sbalneav | ps -ef | grep firefox | 18:57 |
| mercurous23 | it will always say that firefox is already running but is not responding even if I restart the system | 19:01 |
| sbalneav | ah | 19:01 |
| sbalneav | ok. lets do this: | 19:02 |
| sbalneav | cd .mozilla/firefox | 19:02 |
| sbalneav | ls | 19:02 |
| sbalneav | should have something like wdiudv75.default | 19:03 |
| sbalneav | some seqence of random numbers/letters.default | 19:03 |
| mercurous23 | yes | 19:03 |
| sbalneav | cd into that | 19:03 |
| mercurous23 | i think that is the profile | 19:03 |
| mercurous23 | right? | 19:03 |
| sbalneav | you got it | 19:03 |
| sbalneav | ls -l .parentlock lock | 19:03 |
| sbalneav | got a .parentlock? | 19:04 |
| sbalneav | if so, just rm .parentlock | 19:05 |
| mercurous23 | yes | 19:05 |
| sbalneav | then you should be able to start firefox normally | 19:05 |
| sbalneav | ok, I have to head out. alkisg, can you give mercurous23 any more help he needs? | 19:06 |
| alkisg | Sure sbalneav, have a nice afternoon | 19:07 |
| sbalneav | Never trust greeks bearing gifts, but *always* trust greeks in IRC channels :) | 19:07 |
| sbalneav | Have fun my friend. | 19:07 |
| alkisg | Heh :) bye bye | 19:08 |
| mercurous23 | i still got the same problem. I think i got 2 profiles on it. Do you know the command to delete the profile? | 19:11 |
| alkisg | mercurous23: firefox -ProfileManager | 19:12 |
| mercurous23 | do you know this sqlite files are for? | 19:15 |
| mercurous23 | alkisg my firefox is now working | 19:16 |
| mercurous23 | thanks | 19:16 |
| mercurous23 | great help | 19:16 |
| alkisg | The sqlite files are there to store your bookmarks and other stuff, don't delete them | 19:16 |
| alkisg | You're welcome | 19:16 |
| mercurous23 | bye need to get some sleep it is 2am here =) | 19:17 |
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| nubae | aaarcgh... missed the meeting | 22:17 |
| nubae | jeez, I slept through it | 22:17 |
| nubae | can someone tell me what I missed | 22:17 |
| nubae | I read from the email something about Sugar | 22:17 |
| nubae | I'd like to be involved with that as I need to package it for guadalinex anyway, which is based on Ubuntu | 22:18 |
| alkisg | nubae: you didn't miss much, except maybe for your membership once again :P | 22:27 |
| alkisg | ace_suares is going to work on the wiki, and sbalneav on sabayon & docs | 22:27 |
| nubae | well, i seee there is another meet for next week | 22:27 |
| alkisg | Sugar was mentioned, but just barely at the end | 22:27 |
| nubae | which is better for me as Ill have pyclic ready by then | 22:27 |
| nubae | so can get some people psyched to test it | 22:28 |
| alkisg | Nice. | 22:28 |
| alkisg | nubae: I tried with nbd instead of nfs. Yeah, it was twice as fast | 22:28 |
| alkisg | hdparm -tT /dev/nbd0 showed 10MB/sec for 100mbps network | 22:29 |
| alkisg | That's good. But of course gigabit would be like a native disk | 22:29 |
| alkisg | The downside is that it's not really live (the partition must not be mounted). The good side is that one can boot with that partition and administer it as usual | 22:30 |
| alkisg | ...and of course ltsp-update-image etc isn't needed. | 22:30 |
| nubae | right... cool | 22:37 |
| nubae | the biggest isue with nfs isnt even speed though | 22:37 |
| nubae | its reliability | 22:37 |
| nubae | it will disconnect, and when it does make the systems temporarily unusable... teachers reallly dont like that | 22:37 |
| alkisg | Sounds strange though, for such a widely-used file system... | 22:37 |
| nubae | well, its an old system | 22:37 |
| nubae | times have changed | 22:38 |
| alkisg | :-/ I mostly don't like this because of /home, I don't like rsynching stuff... | 22:38 |
| nubae | i have personally always see it have problems, and talking to the guadalinex folks that created this special local cache using rsync and reconnecting to nfs every 5 mins... guaranteed me that it has always had problems | 22:38 |
| nubae | well... its a patch hack for sure... the solution uis not to use nfs | 22:39 |
| nubae | anyways decision was made today here to NOT use ltsp becuase it was too reliant on the network | 22:39 |
| alkisg | So what will you use? | 22:40 |
| nubae | and we cant be sure our province wide networks are all cabled properlz | 22:40 |
| nubae | the simples solution possible | 22:40 |
| alkisg | xrdp? freenx? | 22:40 |
| alkisg | Or just cloning? | 22:40 |
| nubae | xmpp, and totally local machines | 22:40 |
| nubae | yeah net based cloning, we have a customised system | 22:41 |
| alkisg | Hm? you mean xdmcp? | 22:41 |
| nubae | thopugh we are looking for a c coder that could implement p2p like distribution within debinstaller | 22:41 |
| nubae | no I mean xmpp | 22:41 |
| nubae | jabber | 22:41 |
| alkisg | Jabber? | 22:41 |
| nubae | yes... ud be amazed what that protocol can do | 22:41 |
| nubae | everyone thinks its just a chat server | 22:41 |
| nubae | but its a hell of a lot more | 22:42 |
| nubae | and its super stable, very scalable | 22:42 |
| nubae | and not reliant on a constant net connection | 22:42 |
| alkisg | ...but what can it do? Can it expose a file system? | 22:42 |
| nubae | think of it like tcp | 22:45 |
| nubae | u set up a xmpp serve | 22:46 |
| nubae | server | 22:46 |
| asanchez | hi nubae, what are you doing! | 22:46 |
| nubae | and using the xep extensions, there are hundreds | 22:46 |
| nubae | hey hey.... | 22:46 |
| nubae | asanchez: is one of my coworkers at guadalinex | 22:46 |
| alkisg | hi | 22:46 |
| nubae | my boss! | 22:46 |
| asanchez | hi all! | 22:46 |
| nubae | ;-) | 22:46 |
| asanchez | I'm your partner, not your boss! | 22:46 |
| nubae | yeah yeah :-) | 22:47 |
| nubae | paractically partner | 22:47 |
| nubae | technically boss | 22:47 |
| nubae | ;-) | 22:47 |
| asanchez | :) | 22:47 |
| nubae | alkisg was working on a fatclient realtime partition system | 22:47 |
| nubae | or... how would u describe it alkisg | 22:48 |
| nubae | ? | 22:48 |
| alkisg | Hmmm I can see a lot of extensions there: http://xmpp.org/extensions/ but are they implemented somehow? | 22:48 |
| alkisg | Yup, that describes it about right | 22:48 |
| nubae | i told him maybe we are interested in seeing what it is | 22:48 |
| nubae | alkisg: yeah many clients have them implemented... even things like share desktop, whiteboard | 22:48 |
| nubae | collaboration | 22:48 |
| asanchez | of course, any knowledge is welcome | 22:48 |
| nubae | video, audio sophisticated chatrooms | 22:49 |
| alkisg | It seems easy to handle, as it doesn't involve a chroot. The teacher just manages a desktop pc, and it's disk is shared with the other PCs | 22:49 |
| nubae | sharing of files from a bot like service | 22:49 |
| nubae | liek config files could be sent for example... imagine the italc stucture being sent for each classroom | 22:49 |
| nubae | asanchez: alkisg works in the Greek school systenm+ | 22:49 |
| nubae | has the ear of many greek teachers | 22:50 |
| asanchez | interesting! | 22:50 |
| nubae | he has done some interesting hacks to italc too | 22:50 |
| alkisg | The problem is that ltsp, and linux in general, is not very widely used in greece :( | 22:50 |
| nubae | ?lkisg: whjat was it u did for italc again | 22:51 |
| nubae | we use it quite lot at guadalinex | 22:51 |
| alkisg | But there's interest in it from the ministry and from some teachers... I hope it get used more in the future | 22:51 |
| alkisg | nubae: just some bug fixes, I didn't do much for it | 22:51 |
| nubae | i thought u added some feature | 22:52 |
| nubae | and also ure work on dnsmasq | 22:52 |
| alkisg | Nah... yeah, mostly dhcp-related stuff, for remote booting | 22:52 |
| nubae | to stabalise network right? | 22:52 |
| alkisg | And to make remote booting easier. E.g. here we use dual boot machines, windows + ltsp | 22:53 |
| nubae | ah yeah, we force users to use linux or linux | 22:53 |
| alkisg | So I did what I could to make it easier to install gpxe to the windows bootloader... | 22:53 |
| nubae | asanchez: u know sabayon? | 22:54 |
| alkisg | Also, we use cheap routers as dhcp servers, so I asked the dnsmasq and gpxe developers to implement a part of the pxe standard that would make it easier to boot ltsp clients without adding a second dhcp server | 22:54 |
| asanchez | we use an older version of ItalC because we made some hard code to fit our needs, maybe we could take a look at the new versions | 22:54 |
| asanchez | nubae, I do | 22:55 |
| nubae | its been quit improved now | 22:55 |
| nubae | though i guess itn doest have much use in guadalinex | 22:55 |
| alkisg | iTlac 2.0 will have some major improvements, to speed as well. I hope it gets out soon... | 22:55 |
| nubae | asanchez: vagrant cascadian put me in contact with the main tech guy at linex | 22:57 |
| nubae | i'll cc u correspondence ok? | 22:57 |
| asanchez | ok, thanks | 22:57 |
| nubae | alkisg: can u list some of the improvements of italc 2.0? | 22:58 |
| nubae | btw.. asanchez = Technical director of Guadalinex-edu | 22:59 |
| alkisg | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=200812281333.43713.tobias.doerffel@gmail.com&forum_name=italc-devel | 22:59 |
| asanchez | audio troubleshooting classroom starts at #ubuntu-classroom, see u later | 22:59 |
| alkisg | bye | 22:59 |
| nubae | wow management interface for italc 2 sounds nice | 23:01 |
| * alkisg doesn't really like vnc... I'd prefer a freenx-based solution, or even better something with multicasting for demo mode :) | 23:03 | |
| nubae | freenx wojuld rock.... guadalinex has a multicasting app, but just for vlc i believe | 23:04 |
| nubae | an inhouse app | 23:04 |
| nubae | think u ended up doing something similar | 23:04 |
| alkisg | It didn't use multicasting. Just plain old gstreamer pipelines... | 23:05 |
| nubae | thats what we did i believe... we call it virtual net cannon | 23:06 |
| nubae | as it shoots out to the machines in question | 23:06 |
| nubae | but allows teacher to control session | 23:07 |
| alkisg | A program that would *multicast* (so that it would give 30+ fps) the teacher screen would be priceless... | 23:07 |
| nubae | welll maybe tke a look at this program | 23:07 |
| nubae | might give ideas... think its python based | 23:07 |
| alkisg | Are the sources available? | 23:08 |
| nubae | very popular with the teachers | 23:08 |
| nubae | everything we do is software libre so shol | 23:08 |
| nubae | should be | 23:08 |
| asanchez | yeah, we could upload sources to launchpad | 23:08 |
| alkisg | "virtual net cannon" doesn't return anything in google.... | 23:08 |
| nubae | asanchez: would be good, u never know people might improve on it | 23:09 |
| alkisg | asanchez: that'd be nice | 23:09 |
| nubae | or give ideas | 23:09 |
| asanchez | yeah, maybe a new project at lauchpad could be the easiest way to do that | 23:10 |
| asanchez | everything is in spanish: http://murgitic.blogspot.com/2007/02/crv-can-de-red-virtual.html | 23:10 |
| nubae | bueno, I can translate it | 23:11 |
| alkisg | sweet google translate :) | 23:11 |
| asanchez | yes, but i think code is in spanish too | 23:12 |
| asanchez | our coworker luis is the main coder of CRV | 23:12 |
| alkisg | I like your education submenus... ours is flat :) http://users.sch.gr/alkisg/temp/education-menu.png | 23:15 |
| nubae | yes edu menus in guadalinex-edu are indeed very well thought out | 23:18 |
| nubae | we had input from teachers I thnk | 23:18 |
| nubae | think | 23:18 |
| asanchez | we have recently adopted edubuntu menu system in Guadalinex | 23:18 |
| alkisg | So how many PCs use linux in spain, approximately? | 23:20 |
| alkisg | (in education) | 23:20 |
| nubae | well.... think of it this way, we manage 4400 schools | 23:22 |
| nubae | or some number close to that | 23:23 |
| asanchez | in spain i don't know exactly | 23:23 |
| alkisg | Woah... that's a lot of schools | 23:23 |
| nubae | schools have between 100-600 students I think | 23:23 |
| nubae | asanchez knows better though | 23:23 |
| nubae | he can confirm | 23:23 |
| asanchez | in Andalusia we have nowadays 265.000 and we are going to increment this number before end of this year with 187.100 netbooks | 23:23 |
| nubae | yes, we are amongst the largest edu distributions in practice in the world | 23:24 |
| nubae | end goal is every student with a netbook, verdad? | 23:24 |
| alkisg | I hope Greece can learn something from you :( | 23:24 |
| nubae | asanchez mentioned something very interesting todaz | 23:24 |
| nubae | today | 23:24 |
| alkisg | Heh german layout ? | 23:25 |
| asanchez | before 2012, our goal is 1 computer per 2 students | 23:25 |
| nubae | basically, everyone is looking to see what we do | 23:25 |
| nubae | with our netbook deal | 23:25 |
| nubae | forced guinny pigs | 23:25 |
| nubae | guinea pigs | 23:25 |
| asanchez | although we are going to start to give 1 netbook per children at primary school | 23:25 |
| alkisg | Greece will also offer netbooks this September, but only for 1 class (= kids 13 y.o.) | 23:26 |
| alkisg | But I don't know if that will continue next year... | 23:26 |
| nubae | our system is, the gov. gives the netbooks to the students and teachers | 23:26 |
| nubae | so they can take them home, etc | 23:26 |
| asanchez | we have to change our model because now students are going to use netbook also at home | 23:27 |
| nubae | but we only support linux, so if they install windows they are on their own | 23:27 |
| nubae | this will be a big rpoblem | 23:27 |
| nubae | the other problem is connectivity to the net from home | 23:27 |
| nubae | like... should we alow them to connect to any place... (should there be flters hardcoded in?) | 23:28 |
| asanchez | after 6 years of experience, here people prefer linux because they have direct support | 23:28 |
| nubae | its all totally poltiical | 23:28 |
| asanchez | nubae, i think this is one way to give support at home | 23:28 |
| nubae | that is the real advantage... students when going into uni actually ask for linux | 23:29 |
| asanchez | and at home to their parents | 23:29 |
| nubae | trhez wont tolerate windoze | 23:29 |
| nubae | thats super duper! | 23:29 |
| alkisg | All that in 6 years? !!! | 23:29 |
| asanchez | why computer at home are so bored? where is tuxracer? :D | 23:29 |
| nubae | hey... theyve done a hell of a lot... most of the group (at least in development / tech) are some of the best in their fields | 23:30 |
| nubae | they really know their suff | 23:30 |
| asanchez | yeah, we are so lucky with our team and with nubae now! | 23:31 |
| nubae | so we work within the absurd demands of the ministry (asanches can give u horror stories for hours) | 23:31 |
| nubae | hehe | 23:31 |
| nubae | aww..... | 23:31 |
| asanchez | hahaha | 23:31 |
| * nubae blushes | 23:31 | |
| nubae | yeah the team rocks... being able to bounce ideas off each other like that rocks | 23:32 |
| nubae | in all the other situations I was in, I was almost always working alone | 23:33 |
| nubae | much harder and half the fun | 23:33 |
| alkisg | It's really nice that you also do developement, and it would be even better if you could share it somehow... | 23:33 |
| alkisg | I think you're going to send some fixes for the ecubuntu education menus? | 23:33 |
| asanchez | yeah, I think we are now at good political situation to publish part of our work | 23:34 |
| nubae | heh, I was told today that we have a fulltime canonical dev that kinda works for us, based on the money he is paid for an official support contract | 23:34 |
| nubae | asanchez: thats a really good point | 23:34 |
| nubae | we need to some whitepapers and start sending to journals/magazines | 23:35 |
| nubae | get our name (guadalinex-edu) out there | 23:35 |
| asanchez | I think our deployment system its suitable for a paper (and we need this paper to :D) | 23:35 |
| nubae | I hav contacts with British press, but article in wired, linux format, new scientist, etc would be unbeliavably cool | 23:36 |
| * nubae hides from the documentation work | 23:36 | |
| asanchez | our "public relations man" has a lot of contacts | 23:36 |
| nubae | constant struggle here | 23:36 |
| asanchez | no problem, I like doc and slides, I can do that work | 23:37 |
| * nubae and asanchez are kinda PR men too but from a tech perspective | 23:38 | |
| nubae | me cuase somehow I got sucked into ubuntu, oopensuse, and wired membership | 23:39 |
| nubae | btw.... totally oiff note, did u see SCO is suing novell and IBM again | 23:39 |
| nubae | some court somewhere overturned their appeal to the ownership of unix and linux | 23:39 |
| nubae | emm..... wired should = sugar membership | 23:40 |
| nubae | doh | 23:40 |
| nubae | asanchez: una cosa.,... si me invitan a conferencias (un ejemplo es una para suse en Octubre) hay forma de tomar parte, reresentando guadalinex y haceindo una presentation? | 23:45 |
| nubae | me imagino que a la mejor podria coger esos dias, pero no se pagaria nada, verdad? | 23:46 |
| nubae | lo mismo con un despliege /infrstructuración en Madgascar | 23:48 |
| asanchez | nubae, todas las salidas por parte del proyecto tienen que ser aprobadas por la dirección, si la dirección la aprueba no hay problema | 23:48 |
| nubae | vale eso lo entiendo, pero es algo que puede pasar, o es muy dificil?? | 23:49 |
| nubae | es que yo veo que asi ganamos información muy importante | 23:49 |
| nubae | y la verdad es que es ipmortante que alguien que este metido de verdad en estas comunidades vaya... es decir... no solo para el tema de marketing | 23:50 |
| nubae | more information sourcing, intellegence gathering | 23:50 |
| asanchez | i think it could be possible if your company is agree | 23:52 |
| nubae | sadiel in this case? | 23:53 |
| asanchez | yes | 23:53 |
| nubae | ok, I would have to talk to them? | 23:53 |
| asanchez | sorry, i have to help my brother with his final degree project at university | 23:53 |
| nubae | ah no problem... good luck, I go to bed now anyway | 23:54 |
| nubae | Ilöl ask another day | 23:54 |
| asanchez | yes, i think Jorge could have more information, i don't know exactly how that works in your co. | 23:54 |
| * nubae waves and tunes out | 23:55 | |
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