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| jtimberman | Can an sbuild host also build packages for debian lenny? | 00:51 |
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| ojwb | jtimberman: you'll need a lenny chroot | 01:08 |
| TheMuso | slangasek: Ah thats for NAS support, I will drop it then. | 01:14 |
| TheMuso | I don't expect people to be using that for speech output. | 01:14 |
| slangasek | I don't expect people to be using it at all, I thought it was obsolete before ESD. :) | 01:14 |
| jtimberman | ojwb: thats all? neat. | 01:18 |
| TheMuso | I am surprised its still in main actually. | 01:18 |
| ojwb | jtimberman: I've not done it with sbuild, but with pbuilder it is | 01:19 |
| jtimberman | ojwb: cool, i'll give it a whirl | 01:20 |
| === StevenK changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: karmic alpha-4 released | Archive: open, FeatureFreeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-jaunty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | ||
| TheMuso | ogra: Thanks for the pulseaudio arm fix. | 02:02 |
| StevenK | fabbione: Any plans to update redhat-cluster? It is now keeping 2 libraries in the archive that are NBS. | 02:27 |
| mdz | slangasek, er, I just noticed something missing from the release manifest | 02:40 |
| mdz | slangasek, the DVDs! | 02:40 |
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| TheMuso | dtchen: Do you need help with an FFE for that snapshot? | 04:15 |
| dtchen | TheMuso: no, it's probably best to wait until 0.9.16 final for the FFE | 04:19 |
| dtchen | if the situation becomes dire (PA eating cats and such), yeah, then FFE for a snapshot seems more appropriate IMO | 04:20 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: Did you see -rt uploads are approved? | 04:22 |
| ScottK | dtchen: Isn't PA eating cats a design goal? | 04:23 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 04:23 |
| dtchen | well, my feline is ok, so everything must be fine! | 04:23 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: I did, I will be looking to get things back in sync on the weekend. | 04:27 |
| TheMuso | superm1: Are you using the new gdm for mythbuntu? If so, is your gdm wallpaper different to the wallpaper shown in the desktop session? | 05:13 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, it's going to be different, but that part hasn't been done yet. right now i'm just trying to fix all of the rdepends of ttf-bitstream-vera | 05:13 |
| superm1 | our live disks have been broken for over a week because it was ripped out of the archive | 05:13 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, is there some documentation how to build a package that does that though with the new gdm era? | 05:14 |
| TheMuso | superm1: THis is the sticking point. The new gdm uses part of gnome-session, and thereby uses gconf keys to set wallpaper. These keys happen to be exactly the same as whats used for the gnome desktop proper. | 05:15 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, so is it possible to override them with a gconf file of higher priority? | 05:15 |
| TheMuso | superm1: If you do that, its done for the desktop as well. | 05:16 |
| TheMuso | Thats not so bad for you since you use XFCE, but, for studio for example, that doesn't work. | 05:16 |
| superm1 | oh i see | 05:16 |
| superm1 | so what's your solution for studio? | 05:16 |
| TheMuso | Don't have one yet, trying to nut that out. Also trying to work out a solution for xsplash. | 05:17 |
| TheMuso | xsplash won't be as difficult to work out, but still something that needs to be addressed. | 05:17 |
| superm1 | there's always the option of not using xsplash too at least | 05:18 |
| TheMuso | nYes, true enough. | 05:18 |
| TheMuso | As for gdm, the best I can come up with so far is that the gdm package sets a particular filename for the wallpaper on package install for the gdm user. Then derivatives/ubuntu use the alternatives system to point to their wallpaper. | 05:20 |
| TheMuso | That doesn't solve the problem of setting a different window theme for gdm however. | 05:21 |
| superm1 | at least for mythbuntu that's less of a concern. most people will be using autologin, so won't even be seeing it | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 05:45 |
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| slangasek | mdz: ah, true. Also, ports images aren't documented anywhere there - should they be? | 06:13 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:23 |
| highvoltage | hola dholbach! | 06:24 |
| dholbach | hey highvoltage | 06:25 |
| spstarr | would it not be safer to make logrotate.conf save a years worth of logs vs only 4 weeks? | 06:29 |
| ScottK | Not particularly. | 06:38 |
| ScottK | If you really care about a year of logs, you probably don't want to save them on the box in question anyway. | 06:38 |
| spm | spstarr: at $job-1 to... -start; some types of logs would have to be retained according to the archives act; which i think is around 20-50 years. the rest I think were 7 years. YMMV. :-) | 07:01 |
| spstarr | ScottK: servers even if you send it over network | 07:17 |
| spstarr | its still nice to have | 07:18 |
| ScottK | Well it depends on how much space you have to spare | 07:18 |
| fabbione | StevenK: no? I orphaned the packages months ago | 07:19 |
| fabbione | StevenK: there is an ubuntu-ha team you can talk to | 07:20 |
| fabbione | StevenK: they took over all the ha cluster stack | 07:20 |
| spstarr | ScottK: 1 year of standard logs + compressed should not full a big disk up that fast :) | 07:21 |
| ScottK | Depends on what your server is. | 07:21 |
| spstarr | right | 07:21 |
| NCommander | ScottK, mind doing a quick archive-admin task for me? | 07:24 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Depends on what and how quick? | 07:24 |
| NCommander | ScottK, can you punt linux-mvl-dove through binNEW queue? | 07:25 |
| ScottK | No. For reasons I don't remember I'm not supposed to New kernels due to LP U/I issues. | 07:26 |
| NCommander | ScottK, argh. NP I guess | 07:26 |
| robert_ancell | dholbach, thanks for the sponsoring | 07:46 |
| dholbach | robert_ancell: no worries | 07:56 |
| dholbach | robert_ancell: just trying to ease some of seb's workload when he gets back :) | 07:56 |
| robert_ancell | dholbach, yeah me too :) | 07:57 |
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| ojwb | mvo: I've uploaded a new xapian-core package to debian which incorporates that patch upstream and fixes an unrelated bug - should I file a request for a FF exception? | 08:12 |
| mvo | ojwb: that would be very nice, I will add my support for the FF exception too when its in LP | 08:13 |
| ojwb | ok | 08:14 |
| cjwatson | directhex: you poked? | 08:44 |
| cjwatson | jcastro: takes ten seconds to hack your local bzr-builder to change the address :) | 08:44 |
| directhex | i did. i was going to ask to hear why you're not going to the debian-uk bbq | 08:45 |
| cjwatson | directhex: visiting my mother-in-law | 08:45 |
| directhex | skipping beer & meat for the MIL? o_o | 08:46 |
| cjwatson | it was my wife's idea, not mine ;-) | 08:46 |
| davmor2 | directhex: that's cause he is sensible you let the MIL down once and you'll never hear the end of it :D | 08:51 |
| ogra | did compiz get nasty for anyone else the recent days ? | 09:03 |
| bryce | ogra, yes | 09:23 |
| ogra | ah, k | 09:24 |
| bryce | ogra, the workaround I've found is to downgrade to the mesa and libdrm in the x-retro ppa | 09:24 |
| bryce | (or just shut off compiz) | 09:24 |
| ogra | well, mine is to use metacity for now :) | 09:24 |
| bryce | bug's known and reported upstream | 09:24 |
| ogra | oki | 09:24 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 09:25 |
| taavikko | bryce: did the gdm loop bug went to upstream? | 09:27 |
| bryce | taavikko, check the bug report, I always set a watch when upstreaming bugs. | 09:30 |
| quadrispro | jerone-mobile: I'm on bug #417533 | 10:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 417533 in mediatomb "Add to default config.xml settting to treat mimetype video/x-mkv as mkv" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417533 | 10:00 |
| jerone-mobile | quadrispro, sweet! Thanks! | 10:01 |
| quadrispro | argh... ftbfs | 10:02 |
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| quadrispro | jerone-mobile: done, thank you | 10:37 |
| EricInBNE | I want to get involved in the android execution environment development. | 10:47 |
| EricInBNE | Is there a git tree anywhere? all i see is this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/AndroidExecutionEnvironment | 10:47 |
| pochu | NCommander, persia: ^ | 10:48 |
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| ogra | evand, usb-creator neither shows me .img files if i selected them, nor does it see my SD card | 11:14 |
| evand | ogra: using 0.2.3? Can you pastebin me the output of devicekit-disks --dump? | 11:15 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/260821/ voila | 11:16 |
| evand | ogra: that SD card doesn't have any formatted partitions, correct? | 11:19 |
| ogra | yes | 11:19 |
| ogra | it had one usb-creator showed before i erased it | 11:20 |
| ogra | it doesnt show the device though | 11:20 |
| ogra | which is what i need for .img | 11:20 |
| evand | ogra: filed as bug 420438 . I'm on it. | 11:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 420438 in usb-creator "DeviceKit-disks backend does not show a device unless it has a formatted vfat partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420438 | 11:23 |
| * ogra subscribes | 11:23 | |
| ogra | evand, is that the reason why i dont see the .img file i selected in the top list ? | 11:24 |
| ogra | or is that a separate issue ? | 11:25 |
| evand | ogra: nope, that's a different bug that I'm about to fix in trunk. | 11:26 |
| ogra | ah, cool | 11:26 |
| * ogra goes back to use usb-imagewriter for now then :) | 11:27 | |
| evand | heh, incidentally, usb-creator for Windows would work fine here :) | 11:27 |
| ogra | yeah, apparently | 11:28 |
| NCommander | stgraber, when you get a chance, can you binNEW linux-mvl-dove please? | 11:42 |
| ei-grad | hi all | 11:46 |
| NCommander | stgraber, ignore that, ping went to the wrong person | 11:47 |
| ei-grad | is there any news about alpha-5 to be released? | 11:48 |
| cjwatson | ei-grad: that's next week, not this | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | 11:49 |
| ei-grad | oh, thanks) | 11:49 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 12:05 |
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| soren | I have an executable compiled with "-L/some/path -lfoo" so that it'll find /some/path/libfoo.so.0. However, the final executable can't find /some/path/libfoo.so.0 (ldd lists libfoo.so.0 (with no path)) and there's no rpath set. What gives? | 12:22 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 12:31 |
| al-maisan | Should I still be seeing MTRR issues like the following after booting the newest kernel: | 12:31 |
| al-maisan | [ 1.015500] mtrr: type mismatch for e0000000,10000000 old: write-back new: write-combining | 12:31 |
| al-maisan | [ 1.015571] [drm] MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer. | 12:31 |
| al-maisan | This is from dmesg on a karmic machine that runs yesterday's kernel | 12:33 |
| al-maisan | Linux Px4 2.6.31-8-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 27 14:42:57 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:33 |
| * soren pulls some more hair out | 12:37 | |
| soren | Does libtool usually take care of adding rpaths matching the paths passed with -L ? | 12:39 |
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| liw | hmm... I just upgraded to current karmic, rebooted, and now I have a black screen, no bootup messages; ping responds, ssh does't | 13:19 |
| evand | liw: Perhaps remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line and see what happens? | 13:20 |
| liw | ah, second attempt, after power cycling, results in usplash | 13:20 |
| evand | weird | 13:20 |
| liw | indeed | 13:21 |
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| jcastro | cjwatson: wow that was easy, I'll add it to the docs | 14:03 |
| ogra | mterry, tickle | 14:13 |
| * mterry lols | 14:14 | |
| ogra | mterry, a littel birdy told me you are (partially) supposed to take ccheney's responsibilities in the desktop team ? | 14:14 |
| mterry | ogra, I'm swapping with him in terms of teams, but it hasn't really worked out that I took his responsibilities and he mine | 14:15 |
| mterry | ogra, but maybe I can help? | 14:15 |
| ogra | i'm looking for someone with more knowledge about OO.o than me to attack Bug #417009 since he completely refuses to even touch it | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 417009 in openoffice.org "all openoffice apps die in 'com::sun::star::ucb::InteractiveAugmentedIOException' on armel in karmic" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417009 | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | ogra: mterry swapped into the foundations team rather than desktop, fwiw | 14:15 |
| ogra | and we have obligations to ship oo.o | 14:15 |
| ogra | cjwatson, oh. chris is foundation ? | 14:15 |
| lool | We do ship it but ... it's broken :) | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | chris is desktop | 14:16 |
| mterry | cjwatson, ogra: oh right, I swapped with doko! heh, whoops | 14:16 |
| * mterry is confused | 14:16 | |
| highvoltage | lool: lol | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | ogra: tony espy (awe) was the one who swapped with chris | 14:16 |
| ogra | lool, just to echo from a different channel: \o/ That's the attitude! | 14:16 |
| ogra | :P | 14:16 |
| ogra | cjwatson, hrm | 14:17 |
| ogra | i wonder who can do any OO.o bugwork then if chris refuses to look at them :/ | 14:17 |
| ogra | i'm sure awe isnt the guy who knows anything about it | 14:17 |
| lool | cjwatson: ogra is stuck on this bug; do you see someone in the foundations or desktop team apart of ccheney and doko who both report being busy who could help unstuck him? | 14:19 |
| lool | Or even fix the bug :-P | 14:20 |
| doko | lool: not until Sep 09 (vacation until then) | 14:20 |
| ogra | doko, well, such an offer is more than nothing ... we can re-milestone ... happy to test any patches or suggestions, i just dont know where to look or what to do exactly | 14:21 |
| ogra | i'd even to all testbuilds myself | 14:21 |
| lool | doko: Do enjoy your holidays BTW | 14:23 |
| ogra | yeah, dont lurk so much here | 14:23 |
| doko | lool: the babbage travels with me ... | 14:23 |
| ogra | now thats what i call passion for arm :) | 14:24 |
| lool | doko: It's your little armel netbook so to say | 14:26 |
| cjwatson | lool: perhaps Rick Spencer can help; OO.o has ceased to be a foundations responsibility in general | 14:26 |
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| ogra | well, probably worth to bring it up in the release meeting | 14:27 |
| lool | cjwatson: k thanks | 14:28 |
| * liw reports that he has an ugly, kitten-killing proof-of-concept patch for apt to use zsync for updating Packages lists | 14:28 | |
| liw | http://files.liw.fi/temp/apt-packages-zsync-diff-01-proof-of-concept.diff for anyone who wants to read it and send me comments via e-mail (I'm done for today and won't be watching irc) | 14:30 |
| greg_g | mpt: before I respond to the list, I just want to make sure, is the (current) plan to have a "Price: Free" for every package in the Software Store by default? | 14:31 |
| ogra | liw, btw, how about using an rsync wrapper for downloading the .zsync files to minimize traffic ? :) | 14:31 |
| mpt | greg_g, for 1.0, yes | 14:31 |
| ogra | i noticed that my .iso/.img downloads always need to download 1.4M of .zsync even if the changes in the iso/img are less | 14:31 |
| greg_g | mpt: ok, thanks. I'm going to start my email confirming that point, but thanks for the clarification here. :) | 14:32 |
| mpt | greg_g, see bug 419295 for more details | 14:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419295 in software-store ""Price: Free" in every software description sounds cheesy and is redundant!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419295 | 14:32 |
| greg_g | mpt: ahh, thanks, again. | 14:33 |
| mpt | yw | 14:33 |
| liw | ogra, damn you're fast... I didn't have time to close irc :) a) rsync isn't running on mirrors b) the zsync files are on the order of kilobytes for package lists c) when I tested things against ISOs, zsync won (.zsync + file data downloads was less than rsync's total transfer amount) | 14:34 |
| ogra | liw, lol | 14:35 |
| liw | ogra, however, my iso testing was not extensive, I may have just hit a particularly lucky day to test things; if you have evidence that rsync is better, this needs to be looked at further | 14:35 |
| ogra | liw, well, would only make sense for the isos where you actually are above 1MB with the .zsync files | 14:35 |
| liw | ogra, and for isos, you should already be able to update the .zsync file with rsync, since cdimage.u.c has rsync server-side; talk to whoever maintains the download script about that :) | 14:36 |
| ogra | but go away now ! i didnt read the brackets above, i dont wnat to hold you back from getting your well deserved weekend we can talk next week :) | 14:36 |
| liw | ogra, have a good weekend, you deserve it too, please try to avoid doing too much arm-wrestling | 14:37 |
| ogra | heh, will try to :) | 14:37 |
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| ogra | MacSlow, do you have a bug open already for notifications showing up in the vertical center of the screen since the last upgrade ? | 14:42 |
| ogra | (started with todays upgrade for me) | 14:42 |
| MacSlow | ogra, not really a bug... see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/419894 | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] | 14:46 |
| MacSlow | ogra, discussion regarding this happens on the ayatana mailing list (or also here in #ayatana) | 14:47 |
| ogra | i dont want to discuss it :P i would just like to be able to read my stuff without having anything that covers the text :) | 14:47 |
| ogra | but i see that opinion stated on the bug already ... i would just add "me too" noise | 14:48 |
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| james_w | I've just seeded kerneloops-daemon in desktop-common and server-ship | 15:02 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=daemon | 15:02 |
| james_w | should I regenerate all the meta packages now, or is that something that we tend to batch up? | 15:02 |
| ScottK | ogra: Me too noise is probably good. I understand the response so far has been that not very many people complained, so it was probably OK. | 15:03 |
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| cjwatson | ogra: does d-i's dove.cfg need to go to -202? I see that's in NEW | 17:13 |
| ogra | yeah | 17:13 |
| ogra | and the platform seed | 17:14 |
| ogra | NCommander, was supposed to ping me once it's out of NEW | 17:14 |
| cjwatson | I'll take care of it | 17:14 |
| ogra | but feel free to take it | 17:14 |
| ogra | cool | 17:14 |
| ogra | thanks | 17:14 |
| LordMetroid | I get hash sum errors for karmic alpha 4 main, and universe repositories from Sweden | 17:15 |
| ogra | cjwatson, any idea how to avoid that extra work for you or anyone would be appreciated btw, with the additional abi numbers for armel it starts to get messy | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | ogra: don't use different abi numbers :) | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | other than that, not really | 17:16 |
| ogra | heh, to late i guess | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | LordMetroid: more often than not this is caused by intercepting proxies between you and the mirror | 17:16 |
| LordMetroid | ok | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | LordMetroid: wget --no-cache on the relevant URLs may clear it | 17:16 |
| LordMetroid | I'll try that | 17:16 |
| ebroder | Any archive admins around? Bug #368471 has been tested but stuck in jaunty-proposed since May | 17:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368471 in openafs "openafs-modules-dkms should depend on dkms" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368471 | 17:21 |
| cjwatson | ogra: processed through NEW. I'll have to upload d-i before it's made it into the archive, so I expect it'll fail to build, but that's because I'm going to have to leave fairly on-time today - if you need it, feel free to hit retry once it's ready | 17:21 |
| ogra | cjwatson, will do, i dont think its urgent atm | 17:23 |
| cjwatson | oh my, why is the current d-i .tar.gz 49MB | 17:23 |
| cjwatson | ogra: plz not to be storing movies in d-i | 17:24 |
| ogra | damned, you catched me :P | 17:24 |
| ogra | i didnt put anything into it that i'm aware of | 17:25 |
| cjwatson | oh, you uploaded the .bzr too | 17:25 |
| cjwatson | debdiff's always a good idea, it catches this sort of thing | 17:26 |
| cjwatson | d-i's .bzr is massive because that branch used to include the installation guide (with all translations) too | 17:26 |
| ogra | oh, crap | 17:26 |
| ogra | yeah, i didnt export | 17:26 |
| ogra | sorry | 17:27 |
| cjwatson | I never export, I just use debuild | 17:27 |
| cjwatson | rather, debuild -i -I | 17:27 |
| cjwatson | ebroder: nobody tagged it verification-done ... | 17:30 |
| cjwatson | ebroder: and Steve said "it seems to me that the fix is incomplete" | 17:30 |
| ebroder | Oh, huh - I missed that | 17:31 |
| cjwatson | ebroder: so I'm not convinced it ought to be promoted to -updates just yet | 17:31 |
| * ebroder nods | 17:31 | |
| ebroder | I guess I'll get back to you, then | 17:31 |
| ebroder | cjwatson: Thanks | 17:31 |
| slangasek | lool: no reason to use the -meeting channel for side discussions | 17:35 |
| lool | slangasek: k | 17:36 |
| slangasek | lool: manifest> if you're suggesting replacing the 'image type' with a value that doesn't correspond to what we use in the publisher, yes, I would object | 17:37 |
| lool | slangasek: Ok; if you're actually using the subtypes then forget about it :) | 17:37 |
| lool | I thought it was some high level memo of the type of image d-i / ubiquity or live / ami etc. | 17:38 |
| slangasek | lool: the object is to be able to hook this manifest into the publishing itself | 17:38 |
| lool | woah the wiki page? | 17:38 |
| slangasek | well, I would've been happy to have it other than in the wiki, but mdz wanted a Manifest in the wiki for other reasons | 17:39 |
| lool | Well ok | 17:40 |
| lool | wiki would better be up at the time of release :) | 17:40 |
| lool | slangasek: Ok well that's all I had then, thanks | 17:40 |
| slangasek | tkamppeter: is cups Recommends: cups-ppdc the right relationship? what needs cups-ppdc during normal operation? (it's a small package, but I'm reviewing CD diffs, so might as well ask) | 17:41 |
| slangasek | lool: I can pull it down in advance and cache it :) | 17:41 |
| ogra | lool, meh, i forgot that export doesnt work for init-top scripts :( | 17:41 |
| ogra | i need to find another hack for mxcfb | 17:42 |
| lool | ogra: You could write an usplash.conf file? | 17:42 |
| * lool kicks himself for suggesting awful things to ogra | 17:42 | |
| ogra | indeed i could but that would result in a lot of extra code ... checking there isnt one, checking its empty if there is one etc | 17:43 |
| ogra | i liked the three line hack i had before more :/ | 17:43 |
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| tkamppeter | slangasek: These are only tools for PPD manipulation, we can move them to Suggests:. | 17:49 |
| * ogra decides to ponder more about that over the weekend and call it a day now | 17:49 | |
| lool | Keybuk: hey how much do we care about bugs due to not using an initrd? | 17:59 |
| lool | Keybuk: An ARM person reported me that :Apparently rc-sysinit.conf parses /proc/cmdline for "-b|emergency", "0|1|2|3|4|5|6|s|S" and "-s|single", but /proc isn't mounted at this stage if there was no initrd." | 18:00 |
| soren | Could someone from ubuntu-release team take a peek at bug 420644? I'd /really/ like to have aworking eucalyptus before I leave for the weekend. | 18:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 420644 in rampart "[FFe] Update rampart to 1.3.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420644 | 18:00 |
| mdz | slangasek, if you want to put the manifest in bazaar or something, it's fine with me. I just want it to be accessible, not behind the scene | 18:08 |
| mdz | s | 18:08 |
| slangasek | mdz: ok, will think about that :) | 18:15 |
| Turl | hi fta, may I PM you? | 18:24 |
| soren | slangasek: Is that something you could look at? ^^ | 18:33 |
| maxb | LP 406245 has been pending sponsorship for some time now. Is there possibly a kind core-dev who could be enticed to take a look at it? | 18:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406245 in subversion "Merge subversion 1.6.5dfsg-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406245 | 18:37 |
| mathiaz | kees: what's the state of moving puppet to main? | 18:52 |
| kees | mathiaz: last I looked, it had a giant list of things to fix. zul was working on it, IIRC. | 18:55 |
| zul | yeah its getting there | 18:55 |
| mathiaz | kees: do you mean that the puppet MIR wiki page is the biggest wiki page of the world? | 18:56 |
| kees | mathiaz: uhm, no? /me looks around, confused. | 18:57 |
| zul | mathiaz: the only thing that is remaining is debian bug 525852 | 18:57 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 525852 in puppet "postrm will remove files owned by puppetmaster on purge" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/525852 | 18:57 |
| mathiaz | kees: your usage of the term giant made me picture such a wiki page | 18:58 |
| kees | mathiaz: heh | 18:58 |
| fta | Turl, sure | 18:59 |
| mathiaz | zul: are you planning to push these changes to the Debian maintainer and get their input on it? | 18:59 |
| mathiaz | zul: IIRC the debian maintainer are pretty keen on having puppet in sync between Debian and Ubuntu. | 18:59 |
| zul | mathiaz: thats the goal | 19:00 |
| zul | mathiaz: but I dont think there is an easy fix for the postrm bug | 19:02 |
| soren | slangasek: Do you think it's something you could get to within the next couple of hours? | 20:08 |
| greg_g | can someone moderate my email to -devel (from greg@grossmeier.net)? Thanks! | 20:09 |
| slangasek | tkamppeter: right, I think Suggests: is the correct relationship; do you want a bug report? | 20:28 |
| slangasek | soren: sorry, what is it you were pointing me to? | 20:28 |
| soren | slangasek: heh.. 2 sec. | 20:28 |
| soren | 17:00:27 < soren> Could someone from ubuntu-release team take a peek at bug 420644? I'd /really/ like to have aworking eucalyptus before I leave for the weekend. | 20:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 420644 in rampart "[FFe] Update rampart to 1.3.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420644 | 20:28 |
| slangasek | ok | 20:28 |
| slangasek | yes, pulling it up now | 20:29 |
| soren | Fantastic, thank you. | 20:29 |
| penguin42 | does anyone know of something that documents the way hibernate/suspend works from the desktop? In the sense of how things like screensavers should know to lock and how I might hook the same thing to unmount a disc or anything else? | 20:35 |
| LordMetroid | Why are there no icons whatsoever in the alpha 4 release? | 20:37 |
| penguin42 | LordMetroid: On the menus? | 20:38 |
| LordMetroid | Amongst other places | 20:38 |
| penguin42 | LordMetroid: They've been turned off as a UI feature - they can be turned back on | 20:38 |
| penguin42 | LordMetroid: System->preferences->Appearance has a 'Show icons in menus' | 20:39 |
| LordMetroid | The ubuntu one cloud upload/download arrows also do not exist and on the gnome-applet-sus it is not an off button anymore | 20:39 |
| slangasek | mathiaz: you didn't subscribe ubuntu-release to bug #419515 :/ | 20:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419515 in openldap "[FFe] Update to 2.4.18" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419515 | 20:39 |
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| penguin42 | LordMetroid: Ah the sus button I think is a straight bug; the others may be bug 407621 | 20:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407621 in libgnome "(design decision) Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407621 | 20:39 |
| slangasek | kenvandine: bug #417964 was marked in the desktop team release status as 'fixed last week'; the Ubuntu task is still open? | 20:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 417964 in devicekit-disks "Authentication always required to unmount media" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417964 | 20:41 |
| slangasek | mm, reopened after closure | 20:42 |
| soren | slangasek: Thanks for the ack. | 20:42 |
| kenvandine | slangasek, yeah... | 20:44 |
| kenvandine | upstream bug must have been fixed though | 20:44 |
| kenvandine | it's assigned to pitti, so he will see it sunday | 20:45 |
| slangasek | kenvandine: ok | 20:48 |
| mathiaz | slangasek: hm - I though I'd subscribe ubuntu-release once the FFe would be ready | 20:55 |
| tkamppeter | slangasek: cups-ppdc issue is fixed in the Debian BZR repo of CUPS now, so it will go into our next CUPS package. | 20:56 |
| mathiaz | slangasek: right now it doesn't have all the content needed for a proper FFe | 20:56 |
| mathiaz | slangasek: as I don't have all the infomration myself | 20:56 |
| slangasek | mathiaz: ok... the bug was brought up in this morning's release meeting as "bug filed", so I chased it down | 20:56 |
| slangasek | mathiaz: ... and then I marked it incomplete anyway for the reasons we both know... sorry :) | 20:56 |
| sebner | slangasek: I suppose meebey talked to you? | 20:57 |
| slangasek | sebner: yes; I have yet to follow up with the ftp team | 20:57 |
| sebner | slangasek: what's the actual consens? He wasn't that happy with your stuff | 20:58 |
| slangasek | sebner: <shrug> "consensus" is not relevant; complying with the license is | 20:58 |
| sebner | slangasek: IIRC, he is the same opinion as me. People can read the warranty stuff themselves when reading the full GPL .P | 20:59 |
| mdke | cjwatson: can you advise whether bug 415108 should also be fixed in released versions of Ubuntu? | 21:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 415108 in installation-guide "Online Installation Guide contains link to page with pornography" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415108 | 21:16 |
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| J_P | Anyone know if are there a effort to port ubuntu to Nokia N900? | 21:39 |
| sistpoty | ogra: we need better buildds, or you can't have mplayer for armel: S:29: Error: selected processor does not support `pld [r1]' | 21:41 |
| sistpoty | ogra: (from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30948228/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.mplayer_2%3A1.0~rc3%2Bsvn20090426-1ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz), and I don't have the slightest clue about armel :( | 21:41 |
| bluefoxicy | Hey guys, awesome idea for a DOS against Firefox | 21:52 |
| bluefoxicy | configure a Web server to continuously request authentication. | 21:52 |
| bluefoxicy | The box pops up, you can't click tabs | 21:53 |
| bluefoxicy | configure it to always respond with an HTTP auth request so when you click ok/cancel it just pops up again | 21:54 |
| bluefoxicy | and there you go, browser is frozen. | 21:54 |
| slangasek | except that it doesn't work that way | 21:55 |
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| jdstrand | kees: ok, sun-java5 for dapper/hardy and sun-java6 for hardy/jaunty are approved and pending in -proposed | 22:37 |
| kees | jdstrand: thx! | 22:37 |
| jdstrand | kees: and appropriate bugs are all updated | 22:37 |
| jdstrand | kees: sure! | 22:37 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: hrm? did someone from motu-sru approve those? | 22:43 |
| bryce | slangasek, do I need a FFe for updating git snapshots of -ati from our current git snapshot? | 22:48 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: this is a new policy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#sun-java* | 22:48 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: we were told to operate as if that has been approved (these are security releated) | 22:49 |
| bryce | slangasek, for -ati kms we've planned to be doing updates of the git snapshot through up to their release | 22:49 |
| cody-somerville | doko, Is the Sun java 5 plugin not available in karmic? I only see java 6 plugin. | 22:49 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: and it is expected to be voted on in the next TB meeting | 22:49 |
| jdstrand | (voted on and approved) | 22:49 |
| slangasek | bryce: if there's going to be non-bugfix changes, yes; a single umbrella FFe would be enough, though | 22:49 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: ah; approved by pitti then, ok | 22:50 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: well, pitti isn't who directed us | 22:50 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: though if "security related" were the rationale, wouldn't it rightfully go to -security first? | 22:50 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: but since they are security related, I took that on | 22:50 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: hrm, who did? pitti is who edited the wiki page | 22:50 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: mdz speaking with doko and security@ | 22:51 |
| slangasek | ok | 22:51 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: the SRU page says go to use -proposed for these, so I did even though they *may* ultimately go to -security | 22:52 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: they need testing so -proposed is appropriate | 22:52 |
| slangasek | ok | 22:53 |
| bryce | slangasek, bug 420803 | 23:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 420803 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "FFe for updating -ati/mesa/libdrm git snapshots until their individual releases" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420803 | 23:29 |
| slangasek | bryce: thanks, will look | 23:29 |
| bryce | slangasek, heh, and of course the libdrm release announcement just now hits my inbox ;-) | 23:31 |
| * slangasek laughs | 23:32 | |
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