=== robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [00:51] Can an sbuild host also build packages for debian lenny? [01:08] jtimberman: you'll need a lenny chroot [01:14] slangasek: Ah thats for NAS support, I will drop it then. [01:14] I don't expect people to be using that for speech output. [01:14] I don't expect people to be using it at all, I thought it was obsolete before ESD. :) [01:18] ojwb: thats all? neat. [01:18] I am surprised its still in main actually. [01:19] jtimberman: I've not done it with sbuild, but with pbuilder it is [01:20] ojwb: cool, i'll give it a whirl === StevenK changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: karmic alpha-4 released | Archive: open, FeatureFreeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-jaunty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [02:02] ogra: Thanks for the pulseaudio arm fix. [02:27] fabbione: Any plans to update redhat-cluster? It is now keeping 2 libraries in the archive that are NBS. [02:40] slangasek, er, I just noticed something missing from the release manifest [02:40] slangasek, the DVDs! === emmy is now known as emma === krusaf|bnc is now known as krusaf === nixternal is now known as handbag_henry === handbag_henry is now known as nixternal [04:15] dtchen: Do you need help with an FFE for that snapshot? [04:19] TheMuso: no, it's probably best to wait until 0.9.16 final for the FFE [04:20] if the situation becomes dire (PA eating cats and such), yeah, then FFE for a snapshot seems more appropriate IMO [04:22] TheMuso: Did you see -rt uploads are approved? [04:23] dtchen: Isn't PA eating cats a design goal? [04:23] ;-) [04:23] well, my feline is ok, so everything must be fine! [04:27] ScottK: I did, I will be looking to get things back in sync on the weekend. [05:13] superm1: Are you using the new gdm for mythbuntu? If so, is your gdm wallpaper different to the wallpaper shown in the desktop session? [05:13] TheMuso, it's going to be different, but that part hasn't been done yet. right now i'm just trying to fix all of the rdepends of ttf-bitstream-vera [05:13] our live disks have been broken for over a week because it was ripped out of the archive [05:14] TheMuso, is there some documentation how to build a package that does that though with the new gdm era? [05:15] superm1: THis is the sticking point. The new gdm uses part of gnome-session, and thereby uses gconf keys to set wallpaper. These keys happen to be exactly the same as whats used for the gnome desktop proper. [05:15] TheMuso, so is it possible to override them with a gconf file of higher priority? [05:16] superm1: If you do that, its done for the desktop as well. [05:16] Thats not so bad for you since you use XFCE, but, for studio for example, that doesn't work. [05:16] oh i see [05:16] so what's your solution for studio? [05:17] Don't have one yet, trying to nut that out. Also trying to work out a solution for xsplash. [05:17] xsplash won't be as difficult to work out, but still something that needs to be addressed. [05:18] there's always the option of not using xsplash too at least [05:18] nYes, true enough. [05:20] As for gdm, the best I can come up with so far is that the gdm package sets a particular filename for the wallpaper on package install for the gdm user. Then derivatives/ubuntu use the alternatives system to point to their wallpaper. [05:21] That doesn't solve the problem of setting a different window theme for gdm however. [05:37] at least for mythbuntu that's less of a concern. most people will be using autologin, so won't even be seeing it [05:45] Right. === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [06:13] mdz: ah, true. Also, ports images aren't documented anywhere there - should they be? [06:23] good morning [06:24] hola dholbach! [06:25] hey highvoltage [06:29] would it not be safer to make logrotate.conf save a years worth of logs vs only 4 weeks? [06:38] Not particularly. [06:38] If you really care about a year of logs, you probably don't want to save them on the box in question anyway. [07:01] spstarr: at $job-1 to... -start; some types of logs would have to be retained according to the archives act; which i think is around 20-50 years. the rest I think were 7 years. YMMV. :-) [07:17] ScottK: servers even if you send it over network [07:18] its still nice to have [07:18] Well it depends on how much space you have to spare [07:19] StevenK: no? I orphaned the packages months ago [07:20] StevenK: there is an ubuntu-ha team you can talk to [07:20] StevenK: they took over all the ha cluster stack [07:21] ScottK: 1 year of standard logs + compressed should not full a big disk up that fast :) [07:21] Depends on what your server is. [07:21] right [07:24] ScottK, mind doing a quick archive-admin task for me? [07:24] NCommander: Depends on what and how quick? [07:25] ScottK, can you punt linux-mvl-dove through binNEW queue? [07:26] No. For reasons I don't remember I'm not supposed to New kernels due to LP U/I issues. [07:26] ScottK, argh. NP I guess [07:46] dholbach, thanks for the sponsoring [07:56] robert_ancell: no worries [07:56] robert_ancell: just trying to ease some of seb's workload when he gets back :) [07:57] dholbach, yeah me too :) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:12] mvo: I've uploaded a new xapian-core package to debian which incorporates that patch upstream and fixes an unrelated bug - should I file a request for a FF exception? [08:13] ojwb: that would be very nice, I will add my support for the FF exception too when its in LP [08:14] ok [08:44] directhex: you poked? [08:44] jcastro: takes ten seconds to hack your local bzr-builder to change the address :) [08:45] i did. i was going to ask to hear why you're not going to the debian-uk bbq [08:45] directhex: visiting my mother-in-law [08:46] skipping beer & meat for the MIL? o_o [08:46] it was my wife's idea, not mine ;-) [08:51] directhex: that's cause he is sensible you let the MIL down once and you'll never hear the end of it :D [09:03] did compiz get nasty for anyone else the recent days ? [09:23] ogra, yes [09:24] ah, k [09:24] ogra, the workaround I've found is to downgrade to the mesa and libdrm in the x-retro ppa [09:24] (or just shut off compiz) [09:24] well, mine is to use metacity for now :) [09:24] bug's known and reported upstream [09:24] oki [09:25] thanks :) [09:27] bryce: did the gdm loop bug went to upstream? [09:30] taavikko, check the bug report, I always set a watch when upstreaming bugs. [10:00] jerone-mobile: I'm on bug #417533 [10:00] Launchpad bug 417533 in mediatomb "Add to default config.xml settting to treat mimetype video/x-mkv as mkv" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417533 [10:01] quadrispro, sweet! Thanks! [10:02] argh... ftbfs === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [10:37] jerone-mobile: done, thank you [10:47] I want to get involved in the android execution environment development. [10:47] Is there a git tree anywhere? all i see is this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/AndroidExecutionEnvironment [10:48] NCommander, persia: ^ === al-maisan_ is now known as al-maisan [11:14] evand, usb-creator neither shows me .img files if i selected them, nor does it see my SD card [11:15] ogra: using 0.2.3? Can you pastebin me the output of devicekit-disks --dump? [11:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/260821/ voila [11:19] ogra: that SD card doesn't have any formatted partitions, correct? [11:19] yes [11:20] it had one usb-creator showed before i erased it [11:20] it doesnt show the device though [11:20] which is what i need for .img [11:23] ogra: filed as bug 420438 . I'm on it. [11:23] Launchpad bug 420438 in usb-creator "DeviceKit-disks backend does not show a device unless it has a formatted vfat partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420438 [11:23] * ogra subscribes [11:24] evand, is that the reason why i dont see the .img file i selected in the top list ? [11:25] or is that a separate issue ? [11:26] ogra: nope, that's a different bug that I'm about to fix in trunk. [11:26] ah, cool [11:27] * ogra goes back to use usb-imagewriter for now then :) [11:27] heh, incidentally, usb-creator for Windows would work fine here :) [11:28] yeah, apparently [11:42] stgraber, when you get a chance, can you binNEW linux-mvl-dove please? [11:46] hi all [11:47] stgraber, ignore that, ping went to the wrong person [11:48] is there any news about alpha-5 to be released? [11:49] ei-grad: that's next week, not this [11:49] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule [11:49] oh, thanks) [12:05] pitti, hi === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === kapizilla is now known as kakakoka === kakakoka is now known as kapizilla === Tm_T_ is now known as Tm_T [12:22] I have an executable compiled with "-L/some/path -lfoo" so that it'll find /some/path/libfoo.so.0. However, the final executable can't find /some/path/libfoo.so.0 (ldd lists libfoo.so.0 (with no path)) and there's no rpath set. What gives? [12:31] pitti, hi [12:31] Should I still be seeing MTRR issues like the following after booting the newest kernel: [12:31] [ 1.015500] mtrr: type mismatch for e0000000,10000000 old: write-back new: write-combining [12:31] [ 1.015571] [drm] MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer. [12:33] This is from dmesg on a karmic machine that runs yesterday's kernel [12:33] Linux Px4 2.6.31-8-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 27 14:42:57 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [12:37] * soren pulls some more hair out [12:39] Does libtool usually take care of adding rpaths matching the paths passed with -L ? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:19] hmm... I just upgraded to current karmic, rebooted, and now I have a black screen, no bootup messages; ping responds, ssh does't [13:20] liw: Perhaps remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line and see what happens? [13:20] ah, second attempt, after power cycling, results in usplash [13:20] weird [13:21] indeed === Sam-I-Am_ is now known as Sam-I-Am === marjomercado is now known as marjo [14:03] cjwatson: wow that was easy, I'll add it to the docs [14:13] mterry, tickle [14:14] * mterry lols [14:14] mterry, a littel birdy told me you are (partially) supposed to take ccheney's responsibilities in the desktop team ? [14:15] ogra, I'm swapping with him in terms of teams, but it hasn't really worked out that I took his responsibilities and he mine [14:15] ogra, but maybe I can help? [14:15] i'm looking for someone with more knowledge about OO.o than me to attack Bug #417009 since he completely refuses to even touch it [14:15] Launchpad bug 417009 in openoffice.org "all openoffice apps die in 'com::sun::star::ucb::InteractiveAugmentedIOException' on armel in karmic" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417009 [14:15] ogra: mterry swapped into the foundations team rather than desktop, fwiw [14:15] and we have obligations to ship oo.o [14:15] cjwatson, oh. chris is foundation ? [14:15] We do ship it but ... it's broken :) [14:16] chris is desktop [14:16] cjwatson, ogra: oh right, I swapped with doko! heh, whoops [14:16] * mterry is confused [14:16] lool: lol [14:16] ogra: tony espy (awe) was the one who swapped with chris [14:16] lool, just to echo from a different channel: \o/ That's the attitude! [14:16] :P [14:17] cjwatson, hrm [14:17] i wonder who can do any OO.o bugwork then if chris refuses to look at them :/ [14:17] i'm sure awe isnt the guy who knows anything about it [14:19] cjwatson: ogra is stuck on this bug; do you see someone in the foundations or desktop team apart of ccheney and doko who both report being busy who could help unstuck him? [14:20] Or even fix the bug :-P [14:20] lool: not until Sep 09 (vacation until then) [14:21] doko, well, such an offer is more than nothing ... we can re-milestone ... happy to test any patches or suggestions, i just dont know where to look or what to do exactly [14:21] i'd even to all testbuilds myself [14:23] doko: Do enjoy your holidays BTW [14:23] yeah, dont lurk so much here [14:23] lool: the babbage travels with me ... [14:24] now thats what i call passion for arm :) [14:26] doko: It's your little armel netbook so to say [14:26] lool: perhaps Rick Spencer can help; OO.o has ceased to be a foundations responsibility in general === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew [14:27] well, probably worth to bring it up in the release meeting [14:28] cjwatson: k thanks [14:28] * liw reports that he has an ugly, kitten-killing proof-of-concept patch for apt to use zsync for updating Packages lists [14:30] http://files.liw.fi/temp/apt-packages-zsync-diff-01-proof-of-concept.diff for anyone who wants to read it and send me comments via e-mail (I'm done for today and won't be watching irc) [14:31] mpt: before I respond to the list, I just want to make sure, is the (current) plan to have a "Price: Free" for every package in the Software Store by default? [14:31] liw, btw, how about using an rsync wrapper for downloading the .zsync files to minimize traffic ? :) [14:31] greg_g, for 1.0, yes [14:31] i noticed that my .iso/.img downloads always need to download 1.4M of .zsync even if the changes in the iso/img are less [14:32] mpt: ok, thanks. I'm going to start my email confirming that point, but thanks for the clarification here. :) [14:32] greg_g, see bug 419295 for more details [14:32] Launchpad bug 419295 in software-store ""Price: Free" in every software description sounds cheesy and is redundant!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419295 [14:33] mpt: ahh, thanks, again. [14:33] yw [14:34] ogra, damn you're fast... I didn't have time to close irc :) a) rsync isn't running on mirrors b) the zsync files are on the order of kilobytes for package lists c) when I tested things against ISOs, zsync won (.zsync + file data downloads was less than rsync's total transfer amount) [14:35] liw, lol [14:35] ogra, however, my iso testing was not extensive, I may have just hit a particularly lucky day to test things; if you have evidence that rsync is better, this needs to be looked at further [14:35] liw, well, would only make sense for the isos where you actually are above 1MB with the .zsync files [14:36] ogra, and for isos, you should already be able to update the .zsync file with rsync, since cdimage.u.c has rsync server-side; talk to whoever maintains the download script about that :) [14:36] but go away now ! i didnt read the brackets above, i dont wnat to hold you back from getting your well deserved weekend we can talk next week :) [14:37] ogra, have a good weekend, you deserve it too, please try to avoid doing too much arm-wrestling [14:37] heh, will try to :) === moya_ is now known as moya [14:42] MacSlow, do you have a bug open already for notifications showing up in the vertical center of the screen since the last upgrade ? [14:42] (started with todays upgrade for me) [14:46] ogra, not really a bug... see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/419894 [14:46] Launchpad bug 419894 in notify-osd "notify-osd images appear at the middle right of screen" [Undecided,Invalid] [14:47] ogra, discussion regarding this happens on the ayatana mailing list (or also here in #ayatana) [14:47] i dont want to discuss it :P i would just like to be able to read my stuff without having anything that covers the text :) [14:48] but i see that opinion stated on the bug already ... i would just add "me too" noise === ian_brasil is now known as IAO [15:02] I've just seeded kerneloops-daemon in desktop-common and server-ship [15:02] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=daemon [15:02] should I regenerate all the meta packages now, or is that something that we tend to batch up? [15:03] ogra: Me too noise is probably good. I understand the response so far has been that not very many people complained, so it was probably OK. === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ === korn_ is now known as c_korn === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [17:13] ogra: does d-i's dove.cfg need to go to -202? I see that's in NEW [17:13] yeah [17:14] and the platform seed [17:14] NCommander, was supposed to ping me once it's out of NEW [17:14] I'll take care of it [17:14] but feel free to take it [17:14] cool [17:14] thanks [17:15] I get hash sum errors for karmic alpha 4 main, and universe repositories from Sweden [17:15] cjwatson, any idea how to avoid that extra work for you or anyone would be appreciated btw, with the additional abi numbers for armel it starts to get messy [17:15] ogra: don't use different abi numbers :) [17:16] other than that, not really [17:16] heh, to late i guess [17:16] LordMetroid: more often than not this is caused by intercepting proxies between you and the mirror [17:16] ok [17:16] LordMetroid: wget --no-cache on the relevant URLs may clear it [17:16] I'll try that [17:21] Any archive admins around? Bug #368471 has been tested but stuck in jaunty-proposed since May [17:21] Launchpad bug 368471 in openafs "openafs-modules-dkms should depend on dkms" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368471 [17:21] ogra: processed through NEW. I'll have to upload d-i before it's made it into the archive, so I expect it'll fail to build, but that's because I'm going to have to leave fairly on-time today - if you need it, feel free to hit retry once it's ready [17:23] cjwatson, will do, i dont think its urgent atm [17:23] oh my, why is the current d-i .tar.gz 49MB [17:24] ogra: plz not to be storing movies in d-i [17:24] damned, you catched me :P [17:25] i didnt put anything into it that i'm aware of [17:25] oh, you uploaded the .bzr too [17:26] debdiff's always a good idea, it catches this sort of thing [17:26] d-i's .bzr is massive because that branch used to include the installation guide (with all translations) too [17:26] oh, crap [17:26] yeah, i didnt export [17:27] sorry [17:27] I never export, I just use debuild [17:27] rather, debuild -i -I [17:30] ebroder: nobody tagged it verification-done ... [17:30] ebroder: and Steve said "it seems to me that the fix is incomplete" [17:31] Oh, huh - I missed that [17:31] ebroder: so I'm not convinced it ought to be promoted to -updates just yet [17:31] * ebroder nods [17:31] I guess I'll get back to you, then [17:31] cjwatson: Thanks [17:35] lool: no reason to use the -meeting channel for side discussions [17:36] slangasek: k [17:37] lool: manifest> if you're suggesting replacing the 'image type' with a value that doesn't correspond to what we use in the publisher, yes, I would object [17:37] slangasek: Ok; if you're actually using the subtypes then forget about it :) [17:38] I thought it was some high level memo of the type of image d-i / ubiquity or live / ami etc. [17:38] lool: the object is to be able to hook this manifest into the publishing itself [17:38] woah the wiki page? [17:39] well, I would've been happy to have it other than in the wiki, but mdz wanted a Manifest in the wiki for other reasons [17:40] Well ok [17:40] wiki would better be up at the time of release :) [17:40] slangasek: Ok well that's all I had then, thanks [17:41] tkamppeter: is cups Recommends: cups-ppdc the right relationship? what needs cups-ppdc during normal operation? (it's a small package, but I'm reviewing CD diffs, so might as well ask) [17:41] lool: I can pull it down in advance and cache it :) [17:41] lool, meh, i forgot that export doesnt work for init-top scripts :( [17:42] i need to find another hack for mxcfb [17:42] ogra: You could write an usplash.conf file? [17:42] * lool kicks himself for suggesting awful things to ogra [17:43] indeed i could but that would result in a lot of extra code ... checking there isnt one, checking its empty if there is one etc [17:43] i liked the three line hack i had before more :/ === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [17:49] slangasek: These are only tools for PPD manipulation, we can move them to Suggests:. [17:49] * ogra decides to ponder more about that over the weekend and call it a day now [17:59] Keybuk: hey how much do we care about bugs due to not using an initrd? [18:00] Keybuk: An ARM person reported me that :Apparently rc-sysinit.conf parses /proc/cmdline for "-b|emergency", "0|1|2|3|4|5|6|s|S" and "-s|single", but /proc isn't mounted at this stage if there was no initrd." [18:00] Could someone from ubuntu-release team take a peek at bug 420644? I'd /really/ like to have aworking eucalyptus before I leave for the weekend. [18:00] Launchpad bug 420644 in rampart "[FFe] Update rampart to 1.3.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420644 [18:08] slangasek, if you want to put the manifest in bazaar or something, it's fine with me. I just want it to be accessible, not behind the scene [18:08] s [18:15] mdz: ok, will think about that :) [18:24] hi fta, may I PM you? [18:33] slangasek: Is that something you could look at? ^^ [18:37] LP 406245 has been pending sponsorship for some time now. Is there possibly a kind core-dev who could be enticed to take a look at it? [18:37] Launchpad bug 406245 in subversion "Merge subversion 1.6.5dfsg-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406245 [18:52] kees: what's the state of moving puppet to main? [18:55] mathiaz: last I looked, it had a giant list of things to fix. zul was working on it, IIRC. [18:55] yeah its getting there [18:56] kees: do you mean that the puppet MIR wiki page is the biggest wiki page of the world? [18:57] mathiaz: uhm, no? /me looks around, confused. [18:57] mathiaz: the only thing that is remaining is debian bug 525852 [18:57] Debian bug 525852 in puppet "postrm will remove files owned by puppetmaster on purge" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/525852 [18:58] kees: your usage of the term giant made me picture such a wiki page [18:58] mathiaz: heh [18:59] Turl, sure [18:59] zul: are you planning to push these changes to the Debian maintainer and get their input on it? [18:59] zul: IIRC the debian maintainer are pretty keen on having puppet in sync between Debian and Ubuntu. [19:00] mathiaz: thats the goal [19:02] mathiaz: but I dont think there is an easy fix for the postrm bug [20:08] slangasek: Do you think it's something you could get to within the next couple of hours? [20:09] can someone moderate my email to -devel (from greg@grossmeier.net)? Thanks! [20:28] tkamppeter: right, I think Suggests: is the correct relationship; do you want a bug report? [20:28] soren: sorry, what is it you were pointing me to? [20:28] slangasek: heh.. 2 sec. [20:28] 17:00:27 < soren> Could someone from ubuntu-release team take a peek at bug 420644? I'd /really/ like to have aworking eucalyptus before I leave for the weekend. [20:28] Launchpad bug 420644 in rampart "[FFe] Update rampart to 1.3.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420644 [20:28] ok [20:29] yes, pulling it up now [20:29] Fantastic, thank you. [20:35] does anyone know of something that documents the way hibernate/suspend works from the desktop? In the sense of how things like screensavers should know to lock and how I might hook the same thing to unmount a disc or anything else? [20:37] Why are there no icons whatsoever in the alpha 4 release? [20:38] LordMetroid: On the menus? [20:38] Amongst other places [20:38] LordMetroid: They've been turned off as a UI feature - they can be turned back on [20:39] LordMetroid: System->preferences->Appearance has a 'Show icons in menus' [20:39] The ubuntu one cloud upload/download arrows also do not exist and on the gnome-applet-sus it is not an off button anymore [20:39] mathiaz: you didn't subscribe ubuntu-release to bug #419515 :/ [20:39] Launchpad bug 419515 in openldap "[FFe] Update to 2.4.18" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419515 === greg_g is now known as greg-g [20:39] LordMetroid: Ah the sus button I think is a straight bug; the others may be bug 407621 [20:39] Launchpad bug 407621 in libgnome "(design decision) Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407621 [20:41] kenvandine: bug #417964 was marked in the desktop team release status as 'fixed last week'; the Ubuntu task is still open? [20:41] Launchpad bug 417964 in devicekit-disks "Authentication always required to unmount media" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417964 [20:42] mm, reopened after closure [20:42] slangasek: Thanks for the ack. [20:44] slangasek, yeah... [20:44] upstream bug must have been fixed though [20:45] it's assigned to pitti, so he will see it sunday [20:48] kenvandine: ok [20:55] slangasek: hm - I though I'd subscribe ubuntu-release once the FFe would be ready [20:56] slangasek: cups-ppdc issue is fixed in the Debian BZR repo of CUPS now, so it will go into our next CUPS package. [20:56] slangasek: right now it doesn't have all the content needed for a proper FFe [20:56] slangasek: as I don't have all the infomration myself [20:56] mathiaz: ok... the bug was brought up in this morning's release meeting as "bug filed", so I chased it down [20:56] mathiaz: ... and then I marked it incomplete anyway for the reasons we both know... sorry :) [20:57] slangasek: I suppose meebey talked to you? [20:57] sebner: yes; I have yet to follow up with the ftp team [20:58] slangasek: what's the actual consens? He wasn't that happy with your stuff [20:58] sebner: "consensus" is not relevant; complying with the license is [20:59] slangasek: IIRC, he is the same opinion as me. People can read the warranty stuff themselves when reading the full GPL .P [21:16] cjwatson: can you advise whether bug 415108 should also be fixed in released versions of Ubuntu? [21:16] Launchpad bug 415108 in installation-guide "Online Installation Guide contains link to page with pornography" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415108 === mdz__ is now known as mdz === vorian is now known as stevie [21:39] Anyone know if are there a effort to port ubuntu to Nokia N900? [21:41] ogra: we need better buildds, or you can't have mplayer for armel: S:29: Error: selected processor does not support `pld [r1]' [21:41] ogra: (from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30948228/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.mplayer_2%3A1.0~rc3%2Bsvn20090426-1ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz), and I don't have the slightest clue about armel :( [21:52] Hey guys, awesome idea for a DOS against Firefox [21:52] configure a Web server to continuously request authentication. [21:53] The box pops up, you can't click tabs [21:54] configure it to always respond with an HTTP auth request so when you click ok/cancel it just pops up again [21:54] and there you go, browser is frozen. [21:55] except that it doesn't work that way === yoasif_ is now known as yoasi === yoasi is now known as yoasif === |Baby| is now known as Baby [22:37] kees: ok, sun-java5 for dapper/hardy and sun-java6 for hardy/jaunty are approved and pending in -proposed [22:37] jdstrand: thx! [22:37] kees: and appropriate bugs are all updated [22:37] kees: sure! [22:43] jdstrand: hrm? did someone from motu-sru approve those? [22:48] slangasek, do I need a FFe for updating git snapshots of -ati from our current git snapshot? [22:48] slangasek: this is a new policy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#sun-java* [22:49] slangasek: we were told to operate as if that has been approved (these are security releated) [22:49] slangasek, for -ati kms we've planned to be doing updates of the git snapshot through up to their release [22:49] doko, Is the Sun java 5 plugin not available in karmic? I only see java 6 plugin. [22:49] slangasek: and it is expected to be voted on in the next TB meeting [22:49] (voted on and approved) [22:49] bryce: if there's going to be non-bugfix changes, yes; a single umbrella FFe would be enough, though [22:50] jdstrand: ah; approved by pitti then, ok [22:50] slangasek: well, pitti isn't who directed us [22:50] jdstrand: though if "security related" were the rationale, wouldn't it rightfully go to -security first? [22:50] slangasek: but since they are security related, I took that on [22:50] jdstrand: hrm, who did? pitti is who edited the wiki page [22:51] slangasek: mdz speaking with doko and security@ [22:51] ok [22:52] slangasek: the SRU page says go to use -proposed for these, so I did even though they *may* ultimately go to -security [22:52] slangasek: they need testing so -proposed is appropriate [22:53] ok [23:28] slangasek, bug 420803 [23:29] Launchpad bug 420803 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "FFe for updating -ati/mesa/libdrm git snapshots until their individual releases" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420803 [23:29] bryce: thanks, will look [23:31] slangasek, heh, and of course the libdrm release announcement just now hits my inbox ;-) [23:32] * slangasek laughs