[02:04] <shtylman> evand: hope my last min keyboard additions wern't too much trouble :)
[09:45] <CIA-33> hw-detect: cjwatson * r129 ubuntu/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Don't install mouseemu on Intel Mac desktops (LP: #251830).
[09:58] <CIA-33> hw-detect: cjwatson * r130 ubuntu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): merge lp:~superm1/hw-detect/dell-driver-injection-disk
[09:59] <davmor2> evand: is the unr kne behaviour I describe yesterday the expected behaviour?
[09:59] <CIA-33> hw-detect: cjwatson * r131 ubuntu/driver-injection-disk.sh: use tr rather than GNU sed \L extension
[09:59] <evand> davmor2: I didn't catch it
[09:59] <evand> what did you say?
[09:59] <CIA-33> hw-detect: cjwatson * r132 ubuntu/driver-injection-disk.sh: use block-attr rather than vol_id
[10:00] <davmor2> evand: only 2 options appear on both.  try/full install and more info
[10:01] <evand> davmor2: I'll need to see logs.  %TEMP%\Wubi-rXXX.log (where XXX is the version you're using)
[10:01] <davmor2> install inside windows doesn't appear
[10:01] <CIA-33> hw-detect: cjwatson * r133 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.72ubuntu4
[10:01] <davmor2> I'll get it after need to take my wife off about an hour or so
[10:12] <CIA-33> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1141 ubuntu/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Move to 2.6.31-8 kernels.
[11:33] <CIA-33> usb-creator: evand * r138 usb-creator/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
[11:33] <CIA-33> usb-creator: * Re-enable perodic sufficient free space checks.
[11:33] <CIA-33> usb-creator: * Re-enable optional persistence file creation in the UI.
[12:07] <CIA-33> casper: cjwatson * r671 trunk/debian/ (changelog control): Stop recommending unionfs-fuse, as we're using aufs again in Karmic.
[12:13] <CIA-33> casper: cjwatson * r672 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.187
[12:58] <CIA-33> usb-creator: evand * r139 usb-creator/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Fix image and ISO writing for the devicekit backend.
[12:59] <shtylman> davmor2: can I get a screenshot for that bug you filed against kubuntu frontend?
[12:59] <davmor2> shtylman: I'll have a go at getting after for you
[13:00]  * shtylman does not compute....
[13:03] <nomed> hi all
[13:03] <nomed> what's the d-i component that allowes to use static network ?
[13:03] <nomed> i'd need to allow static network in ubiquity
[13:14] <evand> nomed: netcfg.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-network
[13:14] <evand> oh, I misread
[13:15] <evand> nomed: it is not possible at the moment to configure static networking via preseeding in ubiquity.
[13:16] <evand> err configure networking at all using preseeding in ubiquity*
[13:17] <evand> but if you're just after static networking, you can just append some lines to /etc/network/interfaces the ubiquity/success_command debconf key.
[13:18] <evand> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation lists the ubiquity-specific debconf keys
[13:20] <nomed> evand, i was trying to find the best way to patch it
[13:21] <nomed> adding an ubiquity step
[13:21] <nomed> like: Configure Network
[13:21] <evand> nomed: there's already a netcfg component in ubiquity, it's just currently only used for the debconf frontend to oem-config
[13:22] <evand> ubiquity/components/network.py in ubiquity bzr trunk
[13:22] <nomed> evand, perfect thanks
[13:22] <nomed> i 'm going to check it
[13:22] <evand> nomed: sure thing, apologies for the confusion
[13:45] <davmor2> evand: sorry for the delay bloody thing is so slow at updating it's unreal.  http://www.davmor2.co.uk/wubi-9.10-rev147.log
[13:46] <evand> davmor2: permission denied
[13:46] <davmor2> bugger try again
[13:47] <davmor2> I forget that just cause I can see it doesn't necessarily mean everyone else can :)
[13:47] <davmor2> evand: that logs both I thing
[13:47] <davmor2> think even
[13:49] <evand> very odd, it says it found the CD just fine.  I'll have to download a copy of the iso and test locally
[13:52] <davmor2> evand: also the windows usb-creator.exe file throws up internal error: couldn't find pyhton26.dll
[13:53]  * evand raises an eyebrow.
[13:53] <evand> what version of Windows is this?
[13:53] <davmor2> xp on a netbook
[13:54] <davmor2> sp2 now 3 and still updating
[13:54] <davmor2> evand: I'll try again once it is fully up-to-date
[13:54] <davmor2> it just takes so long
[14:10] <nomed> evand, quick question
[14:10] <nomed> in case i want to use netcfg
[14:10] <nomed> should i preseed some debconf question ?
[14:13] <evand> nomed: I'm a bit confused by your question.  Ubiquity operates by running each d-i component until certain questions (as defined by the questions variable in each component) are asked (the run() function in each component), then breaks into the UI, until control returns back to it (ok_handler() in each component), which feeds the UI data back in the form of answers to the debconf questions.
[14:14] <evand> perhaps I led you down the wrong path a bit by pointing you at the netcfg component as it stands, as it's a fairly special case
[14:14] <evand> any of the other components should serve as a suitable guide
[14:14] <evand> (note this is going to become much easier to do once we merge the plugins branch)
[14:14] <evand> or at least more clear
[14:17] <nomed> evand, i get what you mean
[14:17] <nomed> i've never dived that much on d-i
[14:17] <nomed> but i know ubiquity very well
[14:18] <nomed> in netcfg-wrapper component
[14:18] <nomed> i see :
[14:18] <nomed> /usr/lib/ubiquity/netcfg/netcfg
[14:18] <evand> (for what it's worth, that code currently lives in ~mterry/ubiquity/plugins, and is going to be merged, pending a thumbs up from the other ubiquity developers and approval from the Ubuntu release team)
[14:18] <nomed> does that ask debconf the stuff it needs ?
[14:19] <evand> right, the build d-i components live in /usr/lib/ubiquity (they're in d-i/source in bzr)
[14:19] <evand> built*
[14:19] <nomed> yep
[14:19] <evand> so yes
[14:20] <nomed> where can i find the debconf entries i should set before to use it ?
[14:20] <nomed> only from source code ?
[14:20] <evand> nomed: that's probably the best way to familiarize yourself with what is going on
[14:20] <nomed> ok
[14:20] <nomed> thanks again for your availability evand
[14:20] <evand> nomed: sure thing
[14:39] <davmor2> shtylman: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/kub-part.jpg sorry about the size I needed to take it with my camera cause print-screen doesn't link to the snapshot app in kub
[14:41] <evand> davmor2: ah, you didn't mention you were running this off a usb disk.  I suspect therein lies the bug.
[14:41]  * evand digs further
[14:49] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'm getting Configure grub-pc on alternate, should this be so?
[14:57] <cjwatson> nope
[14:57] <cjwatson> well
[14:57] <cjwatson> probably not :)
[14:58] <cjwatson> might just need to tweak grub-installer
[15:01] <davmor2> cjwatson: I get 3 screens of it, 1 check the grub-pc at /boot.... or use kopt for legacy, 2 extentions to the kernel line, 3 what drive to put it on
[15:10] <cjwatson> ok, please file a bug on grub2
[15:12] <cjwatson> 1 and 2 are due to grub2, 3 is actually something grub-installer will need to change to fix, I think
[15:47] <xivulon> hi evand, replied to your email
[15:48] <evand> indeed, I already cooked up a patch for the squashfs fix, but I figured it might be more worthwhile to fix the underlying problem
[15:49] <evand> thanks for the reply!
[15:49] <xivulon> it would be less of a problem if the squashfs was used in live mode directly instead of installing from it... ...but then we'd lose migration
[15:49] <xivulon> I mean with a persistance file
[15:50] <xivulon> It would be interesting to see if we can avoid bind mounting /boot,  that woudl make things a lot tidier
[15:50] <xivulon> if I can make my grub2 working I will have a go this w/e
[15:51] <evand> good deal
[15:52] <xivulon> by the way, I noticed that there is a grub2 module that spits out UUIDs
[15:54] <xivulon> For the migration tool, could we add that to a ppa version of USB creator? Overriding the ubiquity version on the ISO?
[15:56] <davmor2> cjwatson: you know on encrypted lvm should it still have the old usplash?
[15:57] <xivulon> evand one other thing was to fix lupin to allow for software raids
[15:57] <xivulon> ^ The Muso
[15:57] <evand> xivulon: is there an open bug for that?
[15:58] <xivulon> I think there is one, will have to digg
[15:58] <evand> xivulon: we could always remaster a CD and stick it up on people.ubuntu.com
[15:58] <cjwatson> davmor2: old usplash?
[15:59] <xivulon> evand #206746
[15:59] <xivulon> evand that will do!
[15:59] <xivulon> the remastered CD
[16:00] <davmor2> cjwatson: the one with the flasher that goes from left to right rather than the new one that bobs up and down
[16:00] <xivulon> Ah also not sure if the accessibility page is still in line with the CD version
[16:00] <xivulon> ^ TheMuso
[16:00] <cjwatson> I believe that xsplash is generally not yet plumbed in as a complete replacement for usplash, so yes, you'll get both at the moment
[16:00] <cjwatson> this is not intended to be the final state
[16:01] <cjwatson> we need Scott's work on Upstart migration first
[16:01] <davmor2> cjwatson: ah okay so that is xsplash then now I know :)
[16:02] <xivulon> One last thing, is that the usability team made some GUI suggestions, mostly involving a reordering of the page elements and new artwork, should not affect functionality
[16:02] <davmor2> cjwatson: So I'll start panicking after a6
[16:03] <evand> xivulon: fantastic
[17:22] <CIA-33> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1142 ubuntu/ (build/config/armel/dove.cfg debian/changelog): bump dove ABI version to 2.6.31-202
[17:23] <mpt> hmmm, <http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/lifehacker/2009/08/migrationassistant_01.png> reminds me of something
[17:28] <CIA-33> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1143 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu55
[17:46] <davmor2> cjwatson, evand: Got an issue with a unr install I'm getting Errno 5 error
[17:46] <cjwatson> I have to go, sorry
[17:46] <davmor2> cjwatson: no probs
[17:46] <cjwatson> errno 5 is EIO, I/O error
[17:47] <cjwatson> but errnos are the bottom level of error reporting and usually need context :)
[17:48] <davmor2> cjwatson: standard log files on the report then?   Anything else that might be useful?  P.s xp just did a fresh fat format on it
[17:48] <cjwatson> standard logs I guess
[17:49] <davmor2> others are having the same issue but running on d-i so they get more info I'll ask them to add it too
[17:49] <davmor2> thanks have a nice weekend
[17:52] <cjwatson> please ask them to file separate bugs, that's a very generic error
[17:53] <cjwatson> davmor2: could be anywhere, and could be radically different causes
[17:53] <cjwatson> so please don't encourage them to pile into the same bug :)
[17:54] <davmor2> wilko
[18:29] <CIA-33> ubiquity: mterry * r3406 trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): add venezuela timezone; fix 2nd click not cycling cities; add mexico/us invisible timezone border
[19:12] <CIA-33> ubiquity: mterry * r3407 trunk/debian/changelog: add texas bug number to my previous changelog, whoops
[20:34] <cr3> do I need to preseed anything in particular to avoid the prompt: do you want to resume partitionning?