[08:21] <yva> Hi, is there a ppa for firefox and thunderbird for intrepid?
[08:22] <ejat> yva: yeah
[08:23] <ejat> yva: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[08:23] <micahg> yva: they are in intrepid
[08:23] <micahg> what versions are you looking for?
[08:23] <yva> oh yeah but that's the daily release
[08:23] <yva> I just look for the stable one
[08:23] <micahg> firefox 3.0 and TB 2.0.0
[08:23] <micahg> .are in intrepid
[08:23] <yva> 3.5 is stable now no?
[08:23] <micahg> with the latest security revision
[08:24] <micahg> yes
[08:24] <ejat> yva: yes
[08:24] <micahg> but we don't have a build for intrepid for stable 3.5
[08:24] <yva> wo how can I install it on intrepid,
[08:24] <ejat> :(
[08:24] <micahg> 3.0 will continue to receive security fixes on intrepid
[08:24]  * micahg suggests upgrading to jaunty if possible
[08:24] <yva> micahg> yep but I would like to test weave etc
[08:25] <micahg> you can try the dailies then
[08:25] <yva> mmh it's problematic as my laptop is quite old and I'll upgrade soon
[08:26] <yva> how about Ubuntuzilla?
[08:26] <micahg> idk
[08:26] <micahg> we don't support it
[08:26] <yva> ?
[08:26] <yva> support or recommend?
[08:27] <micahg> support
[08:27] <yva> and what do you think about it?
[08:27] <micahg> idk about it
[08:28] <yva> k
[08:29] <yva> and will you have a build for 3.5 on intrepid at some point?
[08:30] <yva> and will you have a build for 3.5 on intrepid at some point?
[08:30] <micahg> not sure
[08:31] <micahg> since intrepid is EOL in April, probably not
[08:31] <micahg> but can't say for sure
[08:31] <yva> ok
[08:33]  * micahg would prefer 3.6 in karmic to 3.5 in intrepid
[08:33] <yva> do you know how  the official ubuntu rep are updated?
[08:33] <micahg> well
[08:33] <micahg> that's not it
[08:33] <micahg> firefox-3.5 isn't in the intrepid repos
[08:33] <micahg> firefox-3.0 is
[08:33] <micahg> it's a separate package
[08:34] <micahg> ok, I need to get some sleep now
[08:35] <micahg> yva: I'll be on around 17:00 UTC if you have more questions
[08:35] <yva> UTC?
[08:35] <yva> GMT?
[08:36] <micahg> yeah
[08:36] <micahg> close enough
[08:36] <yva> micahg> european habits ;)
[08:36] <yva> ok thanks
[08:37] <micahg> ok
[10:36] <eagles0513875> hey all
[15:20] <ejat> !ping fta
[15:21] <fta> ?
[15:34] <fta> ejat ?
[15:35] <ejat> fta: i cant see "Inspect Element" when right click
[15:36] <fta> ejat, install chromium-browser-inspector
[15:36] <ejat> owh ok ..
[15:36] <ejat> thanks ..
[15:36] <ejat> :)
[16:36] <fta> ejat, is flash still broken for you?
[16:37] <ejat> fta: its ok now ..
[16:37] <ejat> how about u ?
[16:38] <fta> it's fine since i've added a workaround
[20:15] <fta> stevel, Mook_sb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/350781
[20:15] <stevel> O.o
[20:16]  * stevel wonders if there is a gst element for that
[20:18] <Mook_sb> stevel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/350781/comments/3 ?
[20:18] <stevel> neat
[20:35] <fta> there are other bugs like that, like bug 135926
[22:59] <jcastro> fta: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/089a3652cbcd5558#
[22:59] <jcastro> does this sort of answer the question you sent via email?
[23:00] <fta> jcastro, i can't see an answer there. it's the same request
[23:01] <jcastro> well, the one guy says he'll discuss with the other guy offline
[23:01] <jcastro> man, no mail from those guys
[23:01] <jcastro> at least [reed] and co have the courtesy to tell us no to our faces. :p
[23:03] <fta> i pinged someone yesterday
[23:03] <fta> he had no clue either
[23:03] <fta> btw, gwibber 2 is broken for me
[23:04] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/261174/
[23:05] <jcastro> looking
[23:05] <BUGabundo> not broken here, just filled with bugs
[23:05] <BUGabundo> ohh and won't run on jaunty
[23:06] <BUGabundo> won't show jaiku, qaiku is empty, etc
[23:07] <fta> hm, 4th start, at last, i see dents, but tons of python errors
[23:09] <BUGabundo> no errors here AFAICS
[23:10] <BUGabundo> have you restarted it yet?
[23:12] <fta> 5 times
[23:13] <fta> themes are no longer used?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> I miss my old dark theme :(
[23:17] <fta> i thought 2.0 baked long enough before it landed, but apparently, far from enough
[23:19] <BUGabundo> it wasnt
[23:19] <BUGabundo> I've been testing it weekly
[23:19] <BUGabundo> did not expect it to land
[23:19] <BUGabundo> I bet it has to due with FF
[23:21] <fta> hmm; openarena unplayable, once again.
[23:21] <fta> brb
[23:34] <fta> hm, what is that update-apt-xapi thing?
[23:34] <BUGabundo> hum it's a synaptic tool from mvo
[23:34] <BUGabundo> its does a quick search
[23:34] <BUGabundo> instead of the FULL search
[23:34] <fta> it's been sucking all my cpu since the reboot
[23:34] <fta> 9 min ago
[23:34] <BUGabundo> really?
[23:35] <BUGabundo> usually its very quick indexing packages
[23:35] <BUGabundo> your system triggered a bug
[23:35] <BUGabundo> file it and ping mvo
[23:35] <fta> it just stopped
[23:36] <BUGabundo> heh
[23:36] <BUGabundo> its afraid to be squashed :)
[23:36] <fta> lol
[23:36] <fta> now updatedb, damn
[23:37] <fta> that thing also runs for more than 20 minutes
[23:37] <BUGabundo> haahahahahaahahahaah
[23:37] <BUGabundo> ahhh right
[23:37] <BUGabundo> mid night
[23:37] <fta> stupid anacron
[23:37] <BUGabundo> really?
[23:38] <BUGabundo> mine takes like 2 min or so
[23:38] <fta> it kicks off a few mins after reboot, bring my disks to their knees
[23:38] <BUGabundo> $ time sudo updatedb
[23:38] <BUGabundo> real	0m8.964s
[23:38] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOL
[23:38] <BUGabundo> either you are a lier
[23:38] <BUGabundo> or I'm a neat freak
[23:39] <fta> my disks are almost all full
[23:39] <fta> with something like 5 billion files
[23:40] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:40] <BUGabundo> /dev/sda2             289G  146G  129G  54% /
[23:40] <BUGabundo> man I love single partition disks :)
[23:41] <fta> until they are full
[23:43] <BUGabundo> LVM FTW
[23:44] <jcastro> fta: he's fixing the thing you pastebinned
[23:44] <fta> why are my notifications now on the middle / right of the screen?? grrr
[23:44] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:44] <BUGabundo> its a Feature now
[23:44] <fta> jcastro, excellent, thx
[23:44] <BUGabundo> we will have to have it until end setember
[23:44] <BUGabundo> :(
[23:44] <fta> eh?
[23:45] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/419894
[23:45] <BUGabundo> look at the invalid
[23:45] <BUGabundo> like _they_ did with multisearch
[23:45] <BUGabundo> put it on Public and let the poor fellow suffer and test :(
[23:46] <jcastro> fta: he's pushing now
[23:46] <jcastro> BUGabundo: if you don't want to deal with change then don't test the development release, that's what it's for
[23:47] <BUGabundo> I know
[23:47] <BUGabundo> I already expected some one to say that
[23:47] <BUGabundo> I understand it jcastro
[23:47] <BUGabundo> be assured I do
[23:47] <BUGabundo> but *when* feedback is strong, one would expect thing to be reverted ASAP
[23:48] <BUGabundo> instead thing seem to stay here, nagging users for weeks
[23:48] <jcastro> I would expect it to get fixed at the same rate other bugs get fixed
[23:48] <BUGabundo> we are Humans
[23:48] <BUGabundo> we may be testing to assure Release is in good condition, but please don't make us suffer for it
[23:48] <BUGabundo> jcastro: well its not a bug, it's a Featured
[23:48] <BUGabundo> it was introduced
[23:48] <BUGabundo> it can be as easily removed
[23:49] <BUGabundo> see the diff?
[23:49] <jcastro> right, so feature freeze was yesterday and one day after you're pissed because it's not fixed?
[23:49] <fta> well, i'm more annoyed by notifications over full screen movies or games, rather than by their position in other situations
[23:51] <BUGabundo> fta: actually im one of those that would like that to happen on some situations
[23:51] <BUGabundo> right anyting on fullscreen will hide them
[23:51] <BUGabundo> jcastro: did i say I was pissed?
[23:51] <BUGabundo> some how you tend to be to aggressive to me
[23:51] <BUGabundo> no idea why
[23:52] <BUGabundo> I'm such a nice and easy going gyt
[23:52] <BUGabundo> *guy
[23:52] <jcastro> I am not being aggressive
[23:52] <BUGabundo> well, sorry, you sounded
[23:52] <BUGabundo> now and in the past
[23:52] <jcastro> I'm just wondering why you expect bug fixes in the development distro when everyone's been working on feature development until yesterday
[23:52] <BUGabundo> no idea why :S
[23:52] <jcastro> I am never pissed, I don't hate anybody!
[23:52] <BUGabundo> jcastro: ohhh I'm just the _tail_
[23:53] <BUGabundo> you should see +1 a few hours back
[23:53] <BUGabundo> oh great, good to know :)
[23:53] <BUGabundo> I'm the same
[23:54] <fta> reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Outside%20the%20bubble  i don't understand where those "should" come from, it doesn't say why center is better
[23:54] <BUGabundo> there were even to _users_ trying to make packages to _fix_ it
[23:54] <BUGabundo> and hosting them on one click servers LOL
[23:54] <jcastro> if someone cared that strongly they would fork it
[23:54] <fta> well, *sigh* i don't really care in fact, i have other cats to beat up
[23:54] <jcastro> like when no one could get the buttons on the notifications
[23:56] <BUGabundo> jcastro: AFAIK mac_v did state his mind
[23:56] <BUGabundo> but was ignored
[23:57] <BUGabundo> well right now, besides that bug^Wfeature,  the one making me dizzy is the one of GNOME removing icon
[23:57] <BUGabundo> no idea what does guys are smoking
[23:58] <jcastro> you can turn it back on