BUGabundoI read the bug00:00
BUGabundobut I rather not00:00
BUGabundoso I can file bugs on apps00:00
BUGabundothat aren't fine00:00
ftajcastro, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gwibber-committers/gwibber/trunk/revision/396 "Don't try to use wnck if it isn't installed", what is wnck?00:12
ftajcastro, should i respin the bot?00:17
fta$ ps auxw | grep -c defunct00:52
fta2+tons of ssh00:53
penguin42does firefox observe --sync or similar to run in synchronous X mode?17:10
* penguin42 drops a pin17:46
* asac sends greets sitting at a bar :)19:52
mac_vasac: hei... have a min for just one small doubt :)19:53
penguin42ah drunk in charge of an irc client19:53
asacnot yet drunk though19:53
asacmac_v: whats up?19:54
penguin42do either of you know if firefox observes --sync or similar?19:54
asaci will be back on monday european afternoon for more extensive things19:54
asacpenguin42: i think so19:54
asacpenguin42: the bad window startup crash?19:55
mac_vi'm running valgrind for  nautilus memoryleaks  , I'v run it for ~5hs and my nautilus-memcheck use is now 20% ... shall i stop now? would the info be sufficient?19:55
asacmac_v: memcheck on its own consumes a lot of mem19:55
asacso you cannot really defer from it19:55
penguin42asac: Cool; no - it's a crash with nspluginwrapper.  If I kill nspluginwrapper and then reload firefox dies as of the last few weeks19:55
asacpenguin42: what error are you getting? bad window?19:56
penguin42asac: Yes after the reload19:56
asacmac_v: did you use nautilus extensively? if so it should be ok19:56
mac_vhmm... :( , for me, usually nautilus consumes 10% memory on its own after 24hrs , but now since its running via memcheck i dont know how to differentiate19:56
asacmac_v: if you did the normal usage in the meantime it should be enough19:57
penguin42asac: I'm used to nspluginwrapper/flash dieing but normally ff carries on, especially if I kill the nspluginwrapper19:57
mac_vregular file operations , yeah i did that19:57
asacmac_v: but usually you have to tell it to use always-malloc to get good results19:57
asacmac_v: give it  a try19:57
asacsave the output you get19:57
mac_vi'm using malloc $ G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly  valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full --num-callers=40 --log-file=valgrind.log nautilus19:58
asacmac_v: sounds good19:58
asacpenguin42: yeah so have you tried --sync?19:58
penguin42(the other problem is that gdb'ing firefox takes to the whole of X out)19:58
penguin42asac: No, I haven't yet - I was just checking if it did it19:59
mac_vasac: ok... thank you :)19:59
asacpenguin42: from what i know it works. at least --sync makes some X errors harder to reproduce and i managed to get some good backtraces19:59
penguin42yeh it's getting good backtraces that's the important - finding out who was nasty enough to create a bad window20:00
asachowever for serious debuggign you usually need a debug build though20:00
asacyeah ... ok out again ... wife waiting and doesnt agree that i should do computer on holiday :) ... talk to you guys on monday!!20:01
asacgreets to all that were not here :)20:01
penguin42have a good one20:02
penguin42damn this thing just won't die with --sync20:35
ftadtchen, hey, since my last reboot (yesterday), i can't watch any movie correctly, the sound is ok, but the video freezes, restarts in fast mode, then slows down, freezes, etc.. any idea?21:20
dtchenfta: which app, which output plugin?21:22
ftadtchen, mplayer, ao=pluse21:22
dtchenif you're using the ppa version of PA, i know about the memchunk crasher and udev "no sound cards" symptoms21:22
ftahm, i had to kill pa twice today, lost sound21:23
dtchenah, that must be the ppoll() issue21:23
dtchenthat's next on my plate to debug21:23
dtchenknown upstream - Red Hat/Mandriva/Ubuntu folks involved21:23
ftashould i downgrade? i'm not sure if it's p-a, the new kernel or something else, so many things changes the last few days21:26
penguin42current kernel/pa seems to be doing good for me - probably best in a long time21:26
ftait clearly regressed for me21:27
dtchenis the latest in the ppa. if that's still problematic, try reverting to the stock Karmic version, and if that combination still fails, drop linux-image back to -7.27 or -6.2621:29
dtchenwhat's maddening about debugging this stuff is that running PA via gdb makes things "work" :-(21:29
penguin42dtchen: Like this ff crasher I have that doesn't seem to exhibit with --sync21:30
ftadtchen, ok, upgrading then21:32
penguin42BUGabundo: I've not seen any comments on those migration script comments of mine - I hope it gets some work prior to release22:19
ftagood, today's gwibber no longer barks at me22:41
BUGabundobut stll sucjs22:41
BUGabundomine seems to be stuck at 8h ago and won't update22:41
BUGabundoI'm really close to downgrade22:42
BUGabundocurrent version doesn't seem to add anything, just probs and lack of features22:42
ftaBUGabundo, avatars are no longer cached?22:47
BUGabundoyah I noticed22:49
fta[reed], ff trunk still broken :P23:13
BUGabundobroken how?23:14
ftaBUGabundo, broken as in not building23:19
ftai have 100 times more users of chromium than of firefox-3.7 :P23:20
BUGabundo*times* ?23:22
* BUGabundo redenting23:23
* BUGabundo shrugs23:32
ftais the update-manager broken?23:33
BUGabundowhat isn't at this point?23:34
BUGabundofta: what would it take to get statusnet deb into karmic now that we are past FF?23:35
BUGabundofully updated? ehe23:37
BUGabundo$ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade23:37
BUGabundoany different?23:37
ftait says 5 updates available23:37
ftaThe following packages have been kept back:23:37
fta  cupsddk mysql-client stardict stardict-common stardict-gtk23:37
BUGabundofull-upgrade then23:38
BUGabundoand see if it does something evil23:38
BUGabundoI don't get that23:38
BUGabundo0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.23:38
ftaif i force stardict:23:38
ftaThe following packages will be REMOVED:23:38
fta  gnome2-user-guide scrollkeeper23:38
BUGabundobetter not23:39
BUGabundoand wait for depency to be rebuild23:39
ftascrollkeeper is a pig23:39
ftastardict 3.0.1-523:40
ftaPublished in karmic-release on 2009-07-2023:40
ftacupsddk is broken because of cups-ppdc23:42
BUGabundohehe I forced the upgrade on those23:44
penguin42damn, running with --sync and mozilla has stayed up for hours23:58
BUGabundoI know23:58
BUGabundothat or, safe-mode, quit, start FF23:58

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