| BUGabundo | I read the bug | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | but I rather not | 00:00 |
| BUGabundo | so I can file bugs on apps | 00:00 |
| BUGabundo | that aren't fine | 00:00 |
| fta | jcastro, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gwibber-committers/gwibber/trunk/revision/396 "Don't try to use wnck if it isn't installed", what is wnck? | 00:12 |
| fta | jcastro, should i respin the bot? | 00:17 |
| fta | $ ps auxw | grep -c defunct | 00:52 |
| fta | 64 | 00:52 |
| BUGabundo | eh | 00:52 |
| BUGabundo | 2 | 00:52 |
| fta | 2+tons of ssh | 00:53 |
| penguin42 | does firefox observe --sync or similar to run in synchronous X mode? | 17:10 |
| * penguin42 drops a pin | 17:46 | |
| * asac sends greets sitting at a bar :) | 19:52 | |
| mac_v | asac: hei... have a min for just one small doubt :) | 19:53 |
| penguin42 | ah drunk in charge of an irc client | 19:53 |
| asac | hehe | 19:53 |
| asac | yeah | 19:53 |
| asac | not yet drunk though | 19:53 |
| asac | mac_v: whats up? | 19:54 |
| penguin42 | do either of you know if firefox observes --sync or similar? | 19:54 |
| asac | i will be back on monday european afternoon for more extensive things | 19:54 |
| asac | penguin42: i think so | 19:54 |
| asac | penguin42: the bad window startup crash? | 19:55 |
| mac_v | i'm running valgrind for nautilus memoryleaks , I'v run it for ~5hs and my nautilus-memcheck use is now 20% ... shall i stop now? would the info be sufficient? | 19:55 |
| asac | mac_v: memcheck on its own consumes a lot of mem | 19:55 |
| asac | so you cannot really defer from it | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | asac: Cool; no - it's a crash with nspluginwrapper. If I kill nspluginwrapper and then reload firefox dies as of the last few weeks | 19:55 |
| asac | penguin42: what error are you getting? bad window? | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | asac: Yes after the reload | 19:56 |
| asac | mac_v: did you use nautilus extensively? if so it should be ok | 19:56 |
| mac_v | hmm... :( , for me, usually nautilus consumes 10% memory on its own after 24hrs , but now since its running via memcheck i dont know how to differentiate | 19:56 |
| asac | mac_v: if you did the normal usage in the meantime it should be enough | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | asac: I'm used to nspluginwrapper/flash dieing but normally ff carries on, especially if I kill the nspluginwrapper | 19:57 |
| mac_v | regular file operations , yeah i did that | 19:57 |
| asac | mac_v: but usually you have to tell it to use always-malloc to get good results | 19:57 |
| asac | mac_v: give it a try | 19:57 |
| asac | save the output you get | 19:57 |
| mac_v | i'm using malloc $ G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full --num-callers=40 --log-file=valgrind.log nautilus | 19:58 |
| asac | mac_v: sounds good | 19:58 |
| asac | penguin42: yeah so have you tried --sync? | 19:58 |
| penguin42 | (the other problem is that gdb'ing firefox takes to the whole of X out) | 19:58 |
| penguin42 | asac: No, I haven't yet - I was just checking if it did it | 19:59 |
| mac_v | asac: ok... thank you :) | 19:59 |
| asac | penguin42: from what i know it works. at least --sync makes some X errors harder to reproduce and i managed to get some good backtraces | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | yeh it's getting good backtraces that's the important - finding out who was nasty enough to create a bad window | 20:00 |
| asac | however for serious debuggign you usually need a debug build though | 20:00 |
| penguin42 | sure | 20:01 |
| asac | yeah ... ok out again ... wife waiting and doesnt agree that i should do computer on holiday :) ... talk to you guys on monday!! | 20:01 |
| asac | greets to all that were not here :) | 20:01 |
| penguin42 | have a good one | 20:02 |
| asac | thx | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | damn this thing just won't die with --sync | 20:35 |
| fta | dtchen, hey, since my last reboot (yesterday), i can't watch any movie correctly, the sound is ok, but the video freezes, restarts in fast mode, then slows down, freezes, etc.. any idea? | 21:20 |
| dtchen | fta: which app, which output plugin? | 21:22 |
| fta | dtchen, mplayer, ao=pluse | 21:22 |
| dtchen | if you're using the ppa version of PA, i know about the memchunk crasher and udev "no sound cards" symptoms | 21:22 |
| fta | hm, i had to kill pa twice today, lost sound | 21:23 |
| dtchen | ah, that must be the ppoll() issue | 21:23 |
| dtchen | that's next on my plate to debug | 21:23 |
| dtchen | known upstream - Red Hat/Mandriva/Ubuntu folks involved | 21:23 |
| fta | 1:0.9.16~test6-30-g300384-0ubuntu1~ubuntuaudiodev1 | 21:25 |
| fta | should i downgrade? i'm not sure if it's p-a, the new kernel or something else, so many things changes the last few days | 21:26 |
| penguin42 | current kernel/pa seems to be doing good for me - probably best in a long time | 21:26 |
| fta | it clearly regressed for me | 21:27 |
| dtchen | 38-g8bf2-0ubuntu1~ | 21:28 |
| dtchen | is the latest in the ppa. if that's still problematic, try reverting to the stock Karmic version, and if that combination still fails, drop linux-image back to -7.27 or -6.26 | 21:29 |
| dtchen | what's maddening about debugging this stuff is that running PA via gdb makes things "work" :-( | 21:29 |
| penguin42 | dtchen: Like this ff crasher I have that doesn't seem to exhibit with --sync | 21:30 |
| fta | dtchen, ok, upgrading then | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | hi | 22:17 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: I've not seen any comments on those migration script comments of mine - I hope it gets some work prior to release | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:20 |
| fta | good, today's gwibber no longer barks at me | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | heheh | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | but stll sucjs | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | mine seems to be stuck at 8h ago and won't update | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | I'm really close to downgrade | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | current version doesn't seem to add anything, just probs and lack of features | 22:42 |
| fta | BUGabundo, avatars are no longer cached? | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | yah I noticed | 22:49 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/261633/ | 23:00 |
| fta | [reed], ff trunk still broken :P | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | broken how? | 23:14 |
| fta | BUGabundo, broken as in not building | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 23:19 |
| fta | i have 100 times more users of chromium than of firefox-3.7 :P | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:22 |
| BUGabundo | *times* ? | 23:22 |
| * BUGabundo redenting | 23:23 | |
| fta | no | 23:31 |
| * BUGabundo shrugs | 23:32 | |
| fta | is the update-manager broken? | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | what isn't at this point? | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | fta: what would it take to get statusnet deb into karmic now that we are past FF? | 23:35 |
| fta | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Software-Update.png | 23:36 |
| fta | empty? | 23:36 |
| BUGabundo | fully updated? ehe | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | any different? | 23:37 |
| fta | it says 5 updates available | 23:37 |
| fta | The following packages have been kept back: | 23:37 |
| fta | cupsddk mysql-client stardict stardict-common stardict-gtk | 23:37 |
| fta | hm | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | full-upgrade then | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | and see if it does something evil | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | I don't get that | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 23:38 |
| fta | if i force stardict: | 23:38 |
| fta | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 23:38 |
| fta | gnome2-user-guide scrollkeeper | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 23:39 |
| BUGabundo | better not | 23:39 |
| BUGabundo | and wait for depency to be rebuild | 23:39 |
| fta | scrollkeeper is a pig | 23:39 |
| fta | stardict 3.0.1-5 | 23:40 |
| fta | Published in karmic-release on 2009-07-20 | 23:40 |
| fta | hm | 23:40 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stardict | 23:41 |
| fta | cupsddk is broken because of cups-ppdc | 23:42 |
| fta | *sigh* | 23:42 |
| BUGabundo | hehe I forced the upgrade on those | 23:44 |
| penguin42 | damn, running with --sync and mozilla has stayed up for hours | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | that or, safe-mode, quit, start FF | 23:58 |
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