[00:00] I read the bug [00:00] but I rather not [00:00] so I can file bugs on apps [00:00] that aren't fine [00:12] jcastro, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gwibber-committers/gwibber/trunk/revision/396 "Don't try to use wnck if it isn't installed", what is wnck? [00:17] jcastro, should i respin the bot? [00:52] $ ps auxw | grep -c defunct [00:52] 64 [00:52] eh [00:52] 2 [00:53] 2+tons of ssh [17:10] does firefox observe --sync or similar to run in synchronous X mode? [17:46] * penguin42 drops a pin [19:52] * asac sends greets sitting at a bar :) [19:53] asac: hei... have a min for just one small doubt :) [19:53] ah drunk in charge of an irc client [19:53] hehe [19:53] yeah [19:53] not yet drunk though [19:54] mac_v: whats up? [19:54] do either of you know if firefox observes --sync or similar? [19:54] i will be back on monday european afternoon for more extensive things [19:54] penguin42: i think so [19:55] penguin42: the bad window startup crash? [19:55] i'm running valgrind for nautilus memoryleaks , I'v run it for ~5hs and my nautilus-memcheck use is now 20% ... shall i stop now? would the info be sufficient? [19:55] mac_v: memcheck on its own consumes a lot of mem [19:55] so you cannot really defer from it [19:55] asac: Cool; no - it's a crash with nspluginwrapper. If I kill nspluginwrapper and then reload firefox dies as of the last few weeks [19:56] penguin42: what error are you getting? bad window? [19:56] asac: Yes after the reload [19:56] mac_v: did you use nautilus extensively? if so it should be ok [19:56] hmm... :( , for me, usually nautilus consumes 10% memory on its own after 24hrs , but now since its running via memcheck i dont know how to differentiate [19:57] mac_v: if you did the normal usage in the meantime it should be enough [19:57] asac: I'm used to nspluginwrapper/flash dieing but normally ff carries on, especially if I kill the nspluginwrapper [19:57] regular file operations , yeah i did that [19:57] mac_v: but usually you have to tell it to use always-malloc to get good results [19:57] mac_v: give it a try [19:57] save the output you get [19:58] i'm using malloc $ G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full --num-callers=40 --log-file=valgrind.log nautilus [19:58] mac_v: sounds good [19:58] penguin42: yeah so have you tried --sync? [19:58] (the other problem is that gdb'ing firefox takes to the whole of X out) [19:59] asac: No, I haven't yet - I was just checking if it did it [19:59] asac: ok... thank you :) [19:59] penguin42: from what i know it works. at least --sync makes some X errors harder to reproduce and i managed to get some good backtraces [20:00] yeh it's getting good backtraces that's the important - finding out who was nasty enough to create a bad window [20:00] however for serious debuggign you usually need a debug build though [20:01] sure [20:01] yeah ... ok out again ... wife waiting and doesnt agree that i should do computer on holiday :) ... talk to you guys on monday!! [20:01] greets to all that were not here :) [20:02] have a good one [20:02] thx [20:35] damn this thing just won't die with --sync [21:20] dtchen, hey, since my last reboot (yesterday), i can't watch any movie correctly, the sound is ok, but the video freezes, restarts in fast mode, then slows down, freezes, etc.. any idea? [21:22] fta: which app, which output plugin? [21:22] dtchen, mplayer, ao=pluse [21:22] if you're using the ppa version of PA, i know about the memchunk crasher and udev "no sound cards" symptoms [21:23] hm, i had to kill pa twice today, lost sound [21:23] ah, that must be the ppoll() issue [21:23] that's next on my plate to debug [21:23] known upstream - Red Hat/Mandriva/Ubuntu folks involved [21:25] 1:0.9.16~test6-30-g300384-0ubuntu1~ubuntuaudiodev1 [21:26] should i downgrade? i'm not sure if it's p-a, the new kernel or something else, so many things changes the last few days [21:26] current kernel/pa seems to be doing good for me - probably best in a long time [21:27] it clearly regressed for me [21:28] 38-g8bf2-0ubuntu1~ [21:29] is the latest in the ppa. if that's still problematic, try reverting to the stock Karmic version, and if that combination still fails, drop linux-image back to -7.27 or -6.26 [21:29] what's maddening about debugging this stuff is that running PA via gdb makes things "work" :-( [21:30] dtchen: Like this ff crasher I have that doesn't seem to exhibit with --sync [21:32] dtchen, ok, upgrading then [22:17] hi [22:19] BUGabundo: I've not seen any comments on those migration script comments of mine - I hope it gets some work prior to release [22:20] :( [22:41] good, today's gwibber no longer barks at me [22:41] heheh [22:41] but stll sucjs [22:41] mine seems to be stuck at 8h ago and won't update [22:42] I'm really close to downgrade [22:42] current version doesn't seem to add anything, just probs and lack of features [22:47] BUGabundo, avatars are no longer cached? [22:49] yah I noticed [23:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/261633/ [23:13] [reed], ff trunk still broken :P [23:14] broken how? [23:19] BUGabundo, broken as in not building [23:19] ahh [23:20] i have 100 times more users of chromium than of firefox-3.7 :P [23:22] eheh [23:22] *times* ? [23:23] * BUGabundo redenting [23:31] no [23:32] * BUGabundo shrugs [23:33] is the update-manager broken? [23:34] what isn't at this point? [23:35] fta: what would it take to get statusnet deb into karmic now that we are past FF? [23:36] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Software-Update.png [23:36] empty? [23:37] fully updated? ehe [23:37] $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [23:37] any different? [23:37] it says 5 updates available [23:37] The following packages have been kept back: [23:37] cupsddk mysql-client stardict stardict-common stardict-gtk [23:37] hm [23:38] full-upgrade then [23:38] and see if it does something evil [23:38] I don't get that [23:38] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [23:38] if i force stardict: [23:38] The following packages will be REMOVED: [23:38] gnome2-user-guide scrollkeeper [23:39] ahh [23:39] better not [23:39] and wait for depency to be rebuild [23:39] scrollkeeper is a pig [23:40] stardict 3.0.1-5 [23:40] Published in karmic-release on 2009-07-20 [23:40] hm [23:41] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stardict [23:42] cupsddk is broken because of cups-ppdc [23:42] *sigh* [23:44] hehe I forced the upgrade on those [23:58] damn, running with --sync and mozilla has stayed up for hours [23:58] eheh [23:58] I know [23:58] that or, safe-mode, quit, start FF