[00:10] <mnemoc> hi, i just installed two 9.04 replaced firefox-3.0 with firefox-3.5 (using standard ubutnu packages) but It doesn't come with search engines :| (the field at the right of the location doesn't come with any option) How can I add google there? :-\ ... it's not even in https://addons.mozilla.org/search-engines.php :(
[00:12] <mnemoc> *question moved to #firefox* ;-)
[02:15] <MTec007> hello
[02:16] <MTec007> im trying to set up a MOTD for SSHD but the only thing i can find is the MOTD that is used after login (/etc/motd).  is there a file that will display a MOTD on connect?
[02:33] <mikubuntu> guys, my headset works with everything i can think of on my (sort of) new laptop, but it doesn't work with skype, any ideas for troubleshooting?
[02:33] <mikubuntu> don't know what the problem could be.  i tried removing pulseaudio and installing esound, but then i got no sound in any configuration i tried, so i reinstalled pulseaudio ...
[04:16] <mistersod> how would I go about booting with a different partition as my home directory
[04:35] <ubuntu> 1
[07:25] <xsebsx> help, i just reboot and somehow the panels dissappeared
[07:26] <xsebsx> i tried right clicking going to settings and then panel
[07:26] <xsebsx> but to no avail
[07:26] <xsebsx> the panels have abandoned me
[07:26] <xsebsx> what must i do
[07:27] <xsebsx> i tried going to the xfce settings as well
[07:27] <xsebsx> doesn't work
[07:29] <psycho_oreos> is this a dist-upgrade?
[07:30] <xsebsx> howdo you mean? no i simply reboot
[07:30] <xsebsx> and my panels were gone
[07:31] <psycho_oreos> and what did you do last?
[07:32] <xsebsx> here, i jsut opened and terminal and here's the output
[07:32] <xsebsx> http://pastebin.ca/1546801
[07:32] <xsebsx> i'm pretty sure that if i close the terminal though the panels will be gone and they won't be nback if i reboot
[07:33] <psycho_oreos> you didn't answer my question
[07:33] <xsebsx> i had rebooted
[07:33] <xsebsx> that's hwat i had done last
[07:34] <xsebsx> i'm trying this
[07:34] <xsebsx> http://www.anujpathania.blogspot.com/2008/06/xubuntu-panels-disappear.html
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> you rebooted without doing anything.. right
[07:34] <xsebsx> if it doesn't work i'll get back
[07:34] <xsebsx> brb
[07:34] <xsebsx> i think so
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> you think
[07:34] <xsebsx> why?
[07:34] <xsebsx> what did i do?
[07:34] <xsebsx> i don't remember having seen any dialogue that asked me if i wanted the panel to be removed
[07:35] <psycho_oreos> you're not admitting what you did last, you just proposed a problem, ignoring the rest of the details which may contribute to the cause
[07:35] <xsebsx> i closed the programs
[07:35] <psycho_oreos> no
[07:35] <xsebsx> ok, well then  it escapes me
[07:35] <xsebsx> i guess i wasn't paying attention but simply trying to reboot
[07:35] <psycho_oreos> meh *shrugs* and if the guide doesn't work, reinstall
[07:36] <xsebsx> brb
[07:38] <xsebsx> psycho_oreos, did you see the output from the terminal i pasted?
[07:39] <psycho_oreos> yes and its pointless
[07:39] <xsebsx> why?
[07:39] <xsebsx> it doesn't show anything?
[07:40] <psycho_oreos> I've given your answer, reinstall
[07:41] <xsebsx> what if i go to system settings and check that xfce-panel is on the startup apps?
[07:49] <xsebsx> psycho_oreos, i don't want to reinstall
[07:50] <xsebsx> i want to fix it
[07:50] <xsebsx> in what folder in the system are the applications supposed to be?
[07:50] <xsebsx> i need to find the panel's directory
[07:50] <xsebsx> in order to add it to the autostartup apps
[07:53] <xsebsx> how cani  find where the xfce4-panel is located?
[07:55] <xsebsx> ok brb
[07:56] <xsebsx> fixed
[07:57] <xsebsx> windows fan
[07:59] <xsebsx> now nicotine won't open
[07:59] <xsebsx> brb
[08:04] <xsebsx> i can't open nicotine
[08:08] <xsebsx> help
[08:08] <xsebsx> now i logged on kde
[08:08] <xsebsx> and the xfce panel is on top of the kde panel
[08:08] <xsebsx> this is crzy
[08:08] <xsebsx> how do i get rid of it
[08:09] <xsebsx> ok i just got rid of it
[08:09] <xsebsx> psycho_oreos, how do i reinstall xubuntu?
[08:09] <xsebsx> do i have to uninstall first? what are the commands psycho_oreos
[10:42] <titan_ark> Hey, I have just got a new HP notebook and i wanted to install the 64 bit version, needed some help with that
[10:44] <titan_ark> No one around at this hour I guess :(
[10:48] <durt> people around from all over the world, you just need to ask a question, not too many will agree to long term hand holding
[10:49] <titan_ark> hey durt, i tried searching but could not figure out how if the CD i recieved is a 64 bit one
[10:50] <durt> it's identified in the file name.
[10:51] <titan_ark> hmm oki, thx il need to chk, never used vista and this notebook ships with it! its irritating!
[10:52] <durt> i386 is 32 bit, amd64 is 64 bit (both amd and intel).
[10:52] <titan_ark> oh oki
[10:52] <titan_ark> this seems to be an i386
[10:53] <titan_ark> il prolly need to DL the 64 bit one and figure out where to get a blank CDs
[10:53] <titan_ark> thx a ton :)
[14:18] <maoshe> hi
[14:18] <maoshe> anybody here, who knows how to config a vnc server on ubuntu server, running with xfce
[14:39] <Araneidae> Accidentially broke my xfce4-panel config, lost the menus!  How do I get them back?!
[14:41] <Araneidae> Doesn't seem to be an entry on "Add New Items..."
[15:05] <Laibsch> Does anybody else see the problem of the GTK2 theme getting changed after logging in to Gnome and then back in to XFCE?
[15:10] <Laibsch> What's worse, I can't get it back now to its original setting.  XFCE-Menu-Settings-Appearance does not seem to have any effect
[17:14] <JoeZiehmer> I have an iMac 500 running Xubuntu 9.04 and I need help getting the colors away from 256 color mode
[17:15] <JoeZiehmer> Xubuntu 9.04 iMac 500 with 784 of RAM it runs great just want to get the colors right.
[17:16] <JoeZiehmer> Can someone help me before I plant a hatchet in it?
[18:19] <LittleItaly> hello all, xorg.conf is supposed to be blank right?
[18:20] <LittleItaly> asking because i have a 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02), and i cannt get higher res than 800x600
[18:20] <LittleItaly> and the solutions online say to edit xorg.conf
[18:20] <LittleItaly> but mine is blank, but i also read that it is supposed to be blank now, so i dont know what to do
[18:22] <LittleItaly> there is a driver for ati on dells website for fedora 7, but im not sure if i can use that and if i can, how to install it
[18:34] <Besogon> LittleItaly, don't you have jockey-gtk?
[18:35] <LittleItaly> i dont know, what is that?
[18:35] <Besogon> manager pro drivers... in Ubuntu at least.
[18:36] <LittleItaly> do you get that in packet manager?
[18:37] <Besogon> I hve got ubuntu and xubuntu on one computer
[18:39] <LittleItaly> yeah, but do you get jockey-gtk in the synaptic packet manager?
[18:39] <LittleItaly> and what does it do?
[18:41] <Besogon> jockey-gtk is a tool that is installed in gnome by default. (What graphics card do you have exactly?)
[18:41] <SiDi> LittleItaly: jockey-gtk is the application that allows you to enable and disable drivers for your hardware
[18:41] <LittleItaly> ohh well in xubuntu it doesnt use gnome
[18:42] <LittleItaly> ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
[18:42] <SiDi> You can enable/disable most GPU / wifi drivers via jockey-gtk, and if you run  'jockey-gtk -- check 60', it'll check for new hardware every minute
[18:43] <LittleItaly> so i shouldnt have it since i have XFCE desktop right?
[18:45] <LittleItaly> oh i do, i have tryed that cause i found it on my menu but it always says there are no drivers
[18:47] <SiDi> LittleItaly: you should have it
[18:47] <SiDi> it's not a gnome app
[18:47] <SiDi> it's a gtk+ application
[18:47] <raidfail> hello, i'm fairly new to linux (but not to computers) and ran the xubuntu live cd to check it out. but when i tried to go back to my windows vista installation, i was unable because one of the drives in my RAID0 somehow lost its member status. it worked perfectly prior to running the live cd
[18:47] <LittleItaly> yeah i have it, but it returns nothing
[18:47] <SiDi> (so its not designed specifically for gnome)
[18:47] <raidfail> am i screwed?
[18:47] <SiDi> LittleItaly: it's meant to run in the background till it finds new hardware
[18:48] <LittleItaly> but its not finding any new hardware
[18:48] <SiDi> raidfail: running the liveCD doesnt cause anything to be written to your drives or your drives config to change unless you _install_ xubuntu
[18:48] <SiDi> raidfail: didnt you change something in your bios prior to booting on the live CD ?
[18:49] <SiDi> LittleItaly: then it most likely means it cant find proper drivers for the harware you just plugged in
[18:49] <SiDi> Which wouldnt be surprising at all for an ATI Rage... ATI's support for old hardware is terribly bad
[18:49] <LittleItaly> i didnt plug in anything. this is a graphics card
[18:49] <SiDi> you perfectly understood what i meant :P
[18:50] <raidfail> SiDi: i only changed the boot order, placing my cd-drive as primary
[18:50] <LittleItaly> so i cannt get higher than 800x600?
[18:50] <SiDi> raidfail: did you try to change it back ? :P
[18:50] <LittleItaly> there is a driver on dell for it for fedora, can i install it on my xubuntu?
[18:50] <SiDi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=533926 LittleItaly
[18:51] <raidfail> SiDi: yes lol i did, just one of the drives suddenly reads as non-member disk in my RAID bios
[18:51] <SiDi> (when did ATI begin to rename their cards Rage ? T_T My last Rage is 12+ years old)
[18:51] <SiDi> raidfail: i think it comes from your bios :/
[18:52] <LittleItaly> its an inspirion 4000 laptop, its old
[18:52] <Besogon> LittleItaly, http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx?type=2.4.2&contentType=GPU%20Download%20Detail  I cant find out you model..
[18:53] <LittleItaly> yeah cause its really old lol, ive checked there
[18:53] <LittleItaly> SiDi, your post refers to radeon cards
[18:54] <raidfail> SiDi: damn, its funny, now that xubuntu is the only os working on my pc now via live-cd i really have to test it out. *attempting to look positively* i'm obviously going to have do a reinstall, but  is there anyway to save data i.e. my documents from my windows install?
[18:54] <LittleItaly> so can i some how use the dell driver for fedora and install it on xubuntu?
[18:55] <LittleItaly> raidfail, use your live cd to explore your hdd directories
[18:55] <LittleItaly> get a usb drive and save everything to it
[18:56] <raidfail> SiDi: how would i go about mounting them? i didn't see them when poking around filesystem
[19:08] <LittleItaly> how can i use the dell driver for fedora and install it on xubuntu?
[19:09] <LittleItaly> are the different types of linux like the different windows where you can not use drivers for xp on windows vista
[19:13] <LittleItaly> lol, once again, is xorg.conf supposed to be empty?
[19:16] <Besogon> LittleItaly, fedora uses RPM-packages. It's bad idea
[19:17] <LittleItaly> ok, well the solution i keep seeing is to edit etc/x11/xorg.conf file, but it is empty
[19:17] <LittleItaly> is it supposed to be empty?
[19:17] <Besogon> LittleItaly, yes. It may be emptly.
[19:18] <genii> Uppercase X on the pathname X11 part
[19:18] <LittleItaly> yeah
[19:18] <LittleItaly> so that solution wont work for me then
[19:18] <Besogon> Type xrandr in console and you will see your resolutions
[19:19] <LittleItaly> max is 800x600
[19:21] <Besogon> So it seems that you are using VGA driver. What is call cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[19:23] <LittleItaly> that command didnt do anything
[19:23] <LittleItaly> because xorg.conf is blank
[19:24] <SiDi> raidfail: i dont know how to mount failing hardware raid filesystems :P
[19:24] <SiDi> you may wanna ask in channels w/ more people or who know more about raid setups
[19:24] <SiDi> or even in #windows
[19:25] <SiDi> LittleItaly: its empty but if you write stuff inside it, Xorg will read that stuff
[19:25] <LittleItaly> so if i copy and paste the stuff on the websites it will work?
[19:25] <raidfail> yeah i've been attempting to but its not working
[19:25] <raidfail> thanks for the help though!
[19:25] <LittleItaly> http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3_AGP_2x
[19:25] <LittleItaly> thats the possible solution
[19:27] <Besogon> LittleItaly, sudo lshw can tell you which driver is used for your ATI now.
[19:30] <Besogon> Saving sinking people is deal of themselves.
[19:31] <Besogon> Saving sinking people is deal of sinking people.
[19:31] <LittleItaly> it says alot of stuff, i dont see driver listed
[19:32] <SiDi> lshw tells about the hardware, not driver, Besogon
[19:33] <SiDi> LittleItaly: the problem is that ATI probably never released drivers for your GPU that are compatible with the new X.Org version
[19:33] <SiDi> so either you'll have to use older versions (that will get unsupported in 1year and a half max), or you mess with xorg.conf, or you get a new shiny GPU :/
[19:34] <LittleItaly> by messing with my blank xorg.conf, pasting in those sections off this site http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3_AGP_2x will make it read right?
[19:35] <SiDi> you'd probably need more stuff in
[19:35] <SiDi> There is a command to reconfigure xorg that should generate a default xorg.conf
[19:35] <SiDi> but i forgot that command :|
[19:36] <LittleItaly> would it be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:37] <SiDi> yeh :p
[19:37] <SiDi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --phigh
[19:37] <SiDi> i think it's that
[19:37] <SiDi> Then you should hopefully have a default xorg.conf on which you can write your changes, then reboot X and see if it works
[19:38] <LittleItaly> whats the difference between the command i posted and your command
[19:38] <Besogon> SiDi, yes. But if you were readed the hardware information, you would see that there is finger up information about drivers for hardware
[19:39] <Besogon> too
[19:45] <Besogon> LittleItaly, Do you make your card to work?
[19:45] <LittleItaly> no, i didnt try. i wanted to know the difference between the command he posted and the command i posted to make a default xorg.conf file
[19:48] <Besogon> make that you know
[19:49] <LittleItaly> make that you know?
[19:49] <SiDi> LittleItaly: dpkg-reconfigure is an interactive utility
[19:49] <SiDi> it asks a lot of questions
[19:49] <SiDi> -phigh stands for --priority high
[19:50] <SiDi> it will only list the 'important' questions
[19:50] <SiDi> so that you're done much faster :P
[19:50] <LittleItaly> ohh ok lol. then ill do the phigh
[19:53] <Besogon> Is r128 driver actually exist in system? may be it built in kernel?
[19:54] <Besogon> ha ha ha man r128
[19:54] <Besogon> )
[19:57] <LittleItaly> so how do i use it?
[19:57] <Besogon> dpkg -l *r128* said me that I had been installed this driver too
[19:58] <LittleItaly> so how do i make it use the driver
[19:59] <SiDi> sudo modprobe r128
[20:00] <LittleItaly> it did it with a warning
[20:01] <Besogon> no. How can he use both driver (VGA and r128) at the time? It's impossible. LittleItaly you should make xorg.conf
[20:02] <LittleItaly> ok
[20:02] <Besogon> then make sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:03] <Besogon> !xorg.conf
[20:06] <Besogon> LittleItaly, Look at "Setting resolution changes in xorg.conf" paragraph. You need something like that.
[20:06] <LittleItaly> ok
[20:12] <Besogon> Or just try to change option Driver to "Driver r128" and reboot. may be it will enaugh for you
[20:40] <LittleItaly> Besogon, i have fixed it
[20:41] <LittleItaly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495256
[20:41] <LittleItaly> and http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3_AGP_2x
[21:46] <_Trinity_> say is Xubuntu plug i and play as ubuntu was when it supported ppc?
[21:47] <lc2> _Trinity_: xubuntu pretty much *is* ubuntu with a different UI, and very little of the dark magic is handled by the UI
[21:47] <lc2> _Trinity_: so yeah if ubuntu worked fine for you on your hardware, then xubuntu will too
[21:49] <_Trinity_> so itl load right into xfce
[21:49] <_Trinity_> great
[21:50] <lc2> yes
[21:50] <lc2> i've installed it on three (admittedly kinda old) boxen and it just worked
[21:50] <lc2> nice how everything works so quickly on a 2.8ghz pentium 4 :)
[21:50] <_Trinity_> anything like a 400Mhz?
[21:51] <lc2> _Trinity_: no the slowest was a 1.4 athlon
[21:51] <lc2> _Trinity_: you might want to try a different window manager if you want to install it on something that slow
[21:51] <_Trinity_> I hope I can wath streamed videos on my iMac DV but that may be asking for too much
[21:51] <lc2> _Trinity_: back when the dinosaurs ruled the earth, i was on a 233mhz pentium MMX and used windowmaker
[21:51] <_Trinity_> lol
[21:52] <lc2> _Trinity_: and there's not so much different about linux that means that ubuntu + windowmaker will be significantly slower than red hat 6.2 + windowmaker was back then
[21:52] <_Trinity_> sure, Il look around and see if any of my old window managers are still being developed
[21:52] <lc2> so yeah, give it a shot
[21:52] <lc2> _Trinity_: fvwm and windowmaker still are
[21:53] <lc2> _Trinity_: i almost switched to fvwm a little while ago, but sadly, the fvwm menu command line tools don't support ubuntu menus :<
[21:53] <_Trinity_> fvwm?? isn that loaded by default with X11?
[21:53] <lc2> or rather, whatever application menu system ubuntu uses
[21:53] <lc2> _Trinity_: no, you might be thinking twm, fvwm has always been separate
[21:53] <_Trinity_> bare minimum of a wm
[21:54] <_Trinity_> oh
[21:54] <_Trinity_> fluxbox seemed interesting years ago
[21:54] <lc2> _Trinity_: heh yes
[21:54] <lc2> _Trinity_: all those neat customisable window managers/environments were fun to me a few years ago
[21:54] <lc2> then i realised i just don't have the time for that
[21:55] <_Trinity_> well, once I get Xubuntu instaled Il see what around in the repositories
[21:55] <lc2> gone are the days when i would spend days on a custom fvwm setup, and fight off dinosaurs while listening to that hip new artist "beethoven" etc
[21:55] <_Trinity_> same here, and that why I thought about xfce on  Xubuntu, but wel see how it performs
[21:56] <lc2> _Trinity_: i dare say somewhere between "bag of shit" and "slower than molasses"
[21:56] <_Trinity_> LOL!
[21:56] <lc2> but another desktop environment won't hurt that at all
[21:56] <lc2> windowmaker will do just fine for a slow system
[21:57] <_Trinity_> there was a fluxbox bsaed verssion of ubuntu but lst i checked it didn go anywhere
[21:57] <lc2> _Trinity_: not to worry, you can always install fluxbox and make it your window manager
[21:58] <_Trinity_> how about E17? Enlightenment?
[21:58] <lc2> _Trinity_: yeah probably
[21:58] <lc2> wow, i just about remember enlightenment lol
[22:00] <lc2> how long have you been using linux _Trinity_?
[22:01] <_Trinity_> I used to use it back in university
[22:01] <_Trinity_> used it for about 5 years
[22:01] <lc2> like what year did you start?
[22:01] <lc2> you remember enlightenment so it's been a while lol
[22:01] <_Trinity_> I started sometime after ubuntu started
[22:02] <_Trinity_> warty?
[22:02] <_Trinity_> and hoary?
[22:02] <_Trinity_> I ws around about then
[22:02] <_Trinity_> always used the ppc ports
[22:02] <lc2> oh okay
[22:02]  * lc2 has been using linux since about 1998
[22:03] <_Trinity_> but I wasn t using ubuntu or any sort of linux when ppc got dropped
[22:03] <lc2> full-time since 2001
[22:03] <_Trinity_> so thats my issue
[22:03] <lc2> i switched to freebsd for a few years then came back around the time of hardy
[22:03] <_Trinity_> I used debian before and fiddled around with mandrake, as it ws called
[22:04] <lc2> wow, lol
[22:04] <_Trinity_> and yellowdog but those were not even close to my taste
[22:04] <lc2> mandrake
[22:04] <lc2> old times, lol
[22:04] <_Trinity_> and mandrake also dropped oficial support for ppc
[22:04] <_Trinity_> and that was really felt when running it
[22:04] <lc2> mm :<
[22:05] <_Trinity_> so I have worries about ppc ubuntu going the same way and ruining my user experience
[22:05] <_Trinity_> on this iMac, since it became my main computer now that my laptop is on the fritz
[22:06] <lc2> wow that sucks :/
[22:06] <lc2> like one of those big CRT-based imacs?
[22:06] <_Trinity_> yeah
[22:06] <_Trinity_> everything looks dark
[22:07] <_Trinity_> especially pics
[22:07] <lc2> nice
[22:07] <lc2> haha
[22:08] <_Trinity_> its more reliaable than the yonah based macbook pros that cost me a bundle of $$. Apple is shit now
[22:08] <_Trinity_> excuse my language
[22:08] <lc2> forgiven
[22:08] <lc2> i've sometimes wanted a mac
[22:09] <lc2> but i don't think i could change how i work that easily
[22:10] <_Trinity_> yeah, I got used t them in university and always ran both OS X and Linux side by side, dual boots
[22:10] <lc2> i also couldn't do without a fast native version of gimp, even if photoshop exists and might be superior
[22:11] <_Trinity_> I bought one window based once and swore t never buy another pc. So I got turned off of pcs because of windows
[22:11] <lc2> although gimp 2.8 is going to suck so much that i might have to find something else :/
[22:11] <_Trinity_> really the yonah processor is an intel processor
[22:12] <_Trinity_> so really I got burned by buying  a pc again
[22:12] <lc2> eh, for almost as long as i've had my own computer i've been running linux, so i'm not really burned by PCs
[22:13] <_Trinity_> well, thank for ansering my questions. I got to move on. I expect to install Xubuntu later today.
[22:14] <lc2> _Trinity_: okay :)
[22:14] <lc2> i'm not sure if i even answered your questions but that's okay, hahaha
[22:15] <lc2> have a good day :)
[22:18] <LittleItaly> Hello, i dont know why, but after configuring my xorg.conf i have no sound. the only soundi get is beeping when xubuntu boots and turns off
[22:21] <TheSheep> !sound | LittleItaly
[22:25] <jarmenda> Got a question if I may. Using Xubuntu 9.04. All works well but if I reboot the box I lose the settings for my display refresh rate. Tried using settings/settings editor but can't seem to lock it down. Seems to be a bit more of an XFCE issue. Any general help in the right direction would be great!
[22:27] <LittleItaly> what volume control is it talking about TheSheep?
[22:44] <TheSheep> LittleItaly: right-click on the panel, select 'add item', scroll down to 'volume control' and drag it onto the panel
[22:47] <LittleItaly> i had that and it doesnt show alsa mixer
[22:47] <lc2> jarmenda: hmmm
[22:48] <LittleItaly> how did changing my xorg.conf file mess with my sound?
[22:48] <lc2> jarmenda: are you using a CRT
[22:48] <lc2> LittleItaly: it didn't, xorg.conf has nothing to do with sound
[22:48] <LittleItaly> is there a command or something to restore default sound settings? cause it was working
[22:49] <LittleItaly> or do you think installing the closest alsa driver to my sound card will work
[22:52] <lc2> make sure whatever program you are using is using the proper output driver
[22:52] <lc2> program being music/whatever else program
[22:52] <lc2> that's not directly related to changing your xorg.conf, since X has nothing at all to do with sound
[22:54] <_Trinity_> lc2: say what's the difference between installing the alternate Xubuntu and alternate Ubuntu CD?
[22:54] <lc2> _Trinity_: your default window manager
[22:54] <LittleItaly> well, i can see that in my sound mixer the output of my ess 1983 is not there anymore
[22:55] <_Trinity_> but doesn't the alternate CD just install a server type install without X?
[22:55] <lc2> _Trinity_: i believe so
[22:55] <_Trinity_> so there woul probably be little difference
[22:55] <lc2> _Trinity_: yes
[22:55] <_Trinity_> because that might be my best option for my iMac, a server install and then manuall install a wm over
[22:56] <lc2> LittleItaly: sorry, you'll have to wait around for someone more experienced than me with ubuntu, i don't know how editing your xorg.conf could cause that
[22:56] <_Trinity_> back to my debian days
[23:53] <LittleItaly> trying to install alsa, but the make file is not working
[23:53] <LittleItaly> and then make install does not work
[23:54] <LittleItaly> ./configure works and does its thing
[23:54] <psycho_oreos> alsa already comes with xubuntu