[00:10] hi, i just installed two 9.04 replaced firefox-3.0 with firefox-3.5 (using standard ubutnu packages) but It doesn't come with search engines :| (the field at the right of the location doesn't come with any option) How can I add google there? :-\ ... it's not even in https://addons.mozilla.org/search-engines.php :( [00:12] *question moved to #firefox* ;-) [02:15] hello [02:16] im trying to set up a MOTD for SSHD but the only thing i can find is the MOTD that is used after login (/etc/motd). is there a file that will display a MOTD on connect? [02:33] guys, my headset works with everything i can think of on my (sort of) new laptop, but it doesn't work with skype, any ideas for troubleshooting? [02:33] don't know what the problem could be. i tried removing pulseaudio and installing esound, but then i got no sound in any configuration i tried, so i reinstalled pulseaudio ... [04:16] how would I go about booting with a different partition as my home directory [04:35] 1 === mistersod is now known as rachel === rachel is now known as rachelGOVERNMENT [07:25] help, i just reboot and somehow the panels dissappeared [07:26] i tried right clicking going to settings and then panel [07:26] but to no avail [07:26] the panels have abandoned me [07:26] what must i do [07:27] i tried going to the xfce settings as well [07:27] doesn't work [07:29] is this a dist-upgrade? [07:30] howdo you mean? no i simply reboot [07:30] and my panels were gone [07:31] and what did you do last? [07:32] here, i jsut opened and terminal and here's the output [07:32] http://pastebin.ca/1546801 [07:32] i'm pretty sure that if i close the terminal though the panels will be gone and they won't be nback if i reboot [07:33] you didn't answer my question [07:33] i had rebooted [07:33] that's hwat i had done last [07:34] i'm trying this [07:34] http://www.anujpathania.blogspot.com/2008/06/xubuntu-panels-disappear.html [07:34] you rebooted without doing anything.. right [07:34] if it doesn't work i'll get back [07:34] brb [07:34] i think so [07:34] you think [07:34] why? [07:34] what did i do? [07:34] i don't remember having seen any dialogue that asked me if i wanted the panel to be removed [07:35] you're not admitting what you did last, you just proposed a problem, ignoring the rest of the details which may contribute to the cause [07:35] i closed the programs [07:35] no [07:35] ok, well then it escapes me [07:35] i guess i wasn't paying attention but simply trying to reboot [07:35] meh *shrugs* and if the guide doesn't work, reinstall [07:36] brb [07:38] psycho_oreos, did you see the output from the terminal i pasted? [07:39] yes and its pointless [07:39] why? [07:39] it doesn't show anything? [07:40] I've given your answer, reinstall [07:41] what if i go to system settings and check that xfce-panel is on the startup apps? [07:49] psycho_oreos, i don't want to reinstall [07:50] i want to fix it [07:50] in what folder in the system are the applications supposed to be? [07:50] i need to find the panel's directory [07:50] in order to add it to the autostartup apps [07:53] how cani find where the xfce4-panel is located? [07:55] ok brb [07:56] fixed [07:57] windows fan [07:59] now nicotine won't open [07:59] brb [08:04] i can't open nicotine [08:08] help [08:08] now i logged on kde [08:08] and the xfce panel is on top of the kde panel [08:08] this is crzy [08:08] how do i get rid of it [08:09] ok i just got rid of it [08:09] psycho_oreos, how do i reinstall xubuntu? [08:09] do i have to uninstall first? what are the commands psycho_oreos [10:42] Hey, I have just got a new HP notebook and i wanted to install the 64 bit version, needed some help with that [10:44] No one around at this hour I guess :( [10:48] people around from all over the world, you just need to ask a question, not too many will agree to long term hand holding [10:49] hey durt, i tried searching but could not figure out how if the CD i recieved is a 64 bit one [10:50] it's identified in the file name. [10:51] hmm oki, thx il need to chk, never used vista and this notebook ships with it! its irritating! [10:52] i386 is 32 bit, amd64 is 64 bit (both amd and intel). [10:52] oh oki [10:52] this seems to be an i386 [10:53] il prolly need to DL the 64 bit one and figure out where to get a blank CDs [10:53] thx a ton :) [14:18] hi [14:18] anybody here, who knows how to config a vnc server on ubuntu server, running with xfce [14:39] Accidentially broke my xfce4-panel config, lost the menus! How do I get them back?! [14:41] Doesn't seem to be an entry on "Add New Items..." [15:05] Does anybody else see the problem of the GTK2 theme getting changed after logging in to Gnome and then back in to XFCE? [15:10] What's worse, I can't get it back now to its original setting. XFCE-Menu-Settings-Appearance does not seem to have any effect [17:14] I have an iMac 500 running Xubuntu 9.04 and I need help getting the colors away from 256 color mode [17:15] Xubuntu 9.04 iMac 500 with 784 of RAM it runs great just want to get the colors right. [17:16] Can someone help me before I plant a hatchet in it? [18:19] hello all, xorg.conf is supposed to be blank right? [18:20] asking because i have a 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02), and i cannt get higher res than 800x600 [18:20] and the solutions online say to edit xorg.conf [18:20] but mine is blank, but i also read that it is supposed to be blank now, so i dont know what to do [18:22] there is a driver for ati on dells website for fedora 7, but im not sure if i can use that and if i can, how to install it [18:34] LittleItaly, don't you have jockey-gtk? [18:35] i dont know, what is that? [18:35] manager pro drivers... in Ubuntu at least. [18:36] do you get that in packet manager? [18:37] I hve got ubuntu and xubuntu on one computer [18:39] yeah, but do you get jockey-gtk in the synaptic packet manager? [18:39] and what does it do? [18:41] jockey-gtk is a tool that is installed in gnome by default. (What graphics card do you have exactly?) [18:41] LittleItaly: jockey-gtk is the application that allows you to enable and disable drivers for your hardware [18:41] ohh well in xubuntu it doesnt use gnome [18:42] ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) [18:42] You can enable/disable most GPU / wifi drivers via jockey-gtk, and if you run 'jockey-gtk -- check 60', it'll check for new hardware every minute [18:43] so i shouldnt have it since i have XFCE desktop right? [18:45] oh i do, i have tryed that cause i found it on my menu but it always says there are no drivers [18:47] LittleItaly: you should have it [18:47] it's not a gnome app [18:47] it's a gtk+ application [18:47] hello, i'm fairly new to linux (but not to computers) and ran the xubuntu live cd to check it out. but when i tried to go back to my windows vista installation, i was unable because one of the drives in my RAID0 somehow lost its member status. it worked perfectly prior to running the live cd [18:47] yeah i have it, but it returns nothing [18:47] (so its not designed specifically for gnome) [18:47] am i screwed? [18:47] LittleItaly: it's meant to run in the background till it finds new hardware [18:48] but its not finding any new hardware [18:48] raidfail: running the liveCD doesnt cause anything to be written to your drives or your drives config to change unless you _install_ xubuntu [18:48] raidfail: didnt you change something in your bios prior to booting on the live CD ? [18:49] LittleItaly: then it most likely means it cant find proper drivers for the harware you just plugged in [18:49] Which wouldnt be surprising at all for an ATI Rage... ATI's support for old hardware is terribly bad [18:49] i didnt plug in anything. this is a graphics card [18:49] you perfectly understood what i meant :P [18:50] SiDi: i only changed the boot order, placing my cd-drive as primary [18:50] so i cannt get higher than 800x600? [18:50] raidfail: did you try to change it back ? :P [18:50] there is a driver on dell for it for fedora, can i install it on my xubuntu? [18:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=533926 LittleItaly [18:51] SiDi: yes lol i did, just one of the drives suddenly reads as non-member disk in my RAID bios [18:51] (when did ATI begin to rename their cards Rage ? T_T My last Rage is 12+ years old) [18:51] raidfail: i think it comes from your bios :/ [18:52] its an inspirion 4000 laptop, its old [18:52] LittleItaly, http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx?type=2.4.2&contentType=GPU%20Download%20Detail I cant find out you model.. [18:53] yeah cause its really old lol, ive checked there [18:53] SiDi, your post refers to radeon cards [18:54] SiDi: damn, its funny, now that xubuntu is the only os working on my pc now via live-cd i really have to test it out. *attempting to look positively* i'm obviously going to have do a reinstall, but is there anyway to save data i.e. my documents from my windows install? [18:54] so can i some how use the dell driver for fedora and install it on xubuntu? [18:55] raidfail, use your live cd to explore your hdd directories [18:55] get a usb drive and save everything to it [18:56] SiDi: how would i go about mounting them? i didn't see them when poking around filesystem [19:08] how can i use the dell driver for fedora and install it on xubuntu? [19:09] are the different types of linux like the different windows where you can not use drivers for xp on windows vista [19:13] lol, once again, is xorg.conf supposed to be empty? [19:16] LittleItaly, fedora uses RPM-packages. It's bad idea [19:17] ok, well the solution i keep seeing is to edit etc/x11/xorg.conf file, but it is empty [19:17] is it supposed to be empty? [19:17] LittleItaly, yes. It may be emptly. [19:18] Uppercase X on the pathname X11 part [19:18] yeah [19:18] so that solution wont work for me then [19:18] Type xrandr in console and you will see your resolutions [19:19] max is 800x600 [19:21] So it seems that you are using VGA driver. What is call cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver [19:23] that command didnt do anything [19:23] because xorg.conf is blank [19:24] raidfail: i dont know how to mount failing hardware raid filesystems :P [19:24] you may wanna ask in channels w/ more people or who know more about raid setups [19:24] or even in #windows [19:25] LittleItaly: its empty but if you write stuff inside it, Xorg will read that stuff [19:25] so if i copy and paste the stuff on the websites it will work? [19:25] yeah i've been attempting to but its not working [19:25] thanks for the help though! [19:25] http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3_AGP_2x [19:25] thats the possible solution [19:27] LittleItaly, sudo lshw can tell you which driver is used for your ATI now. [19:30] Saving sinking people is deal of themselves. [19:31] Saving sinking people is deal of sinking people. [19:31] it says alot of stuff, i dont see driver listed [19:32] lshw tells about the hardware, not driver, Besogon [19:33] LittleItaly: the problem is that ATI probably never released drivers for your GPU that are compatible with the new X.Org version [19:33] so either you'll have to use older versions (that will get unsupported in 1year and a half max), or you mess with xorg.conf, or you get a new shiny GPU :/ === _PlaYStatiON is now known as PlaYStatiON [19:34] by messing with my blank xorg.conf, pasting in those sections off this site http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3_AGP_2x will make it read right? [19:35] you'd probably need more stuff in [19:35] There is a command to reconfigure xorg that should generate a default xorg.conf [19:35] but i forgot that command :| [19:36] would it be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [19:37] yeh :p [19:37] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --phigh [19:37] i think it's that [19:37] Then you should hopefully have a default xorg.conf on which you can write your changes, then reboot X and see if it works [19:38] whats the difference between the command i posted and your command [19:38] SiDi, yes. But if you were readed the hardware information, you would see that there is finger up information about drivers for hardware [19:39] too [19:45] LittleItaly, Do you make your card to work? [19:45] no, i didnt try. i wanted to know the difference between the command he posted and the command i posted to make a default xorg.conf file [19:48] make that you know [19:49] make that you know? [19:49] LittleItaly: dpkg-reconfigure is an interactive utility [19:49] it asks a lot of questions [19:49] -phigh stands for --priority high [19:50] it will only list the 'important' questions [19:50] so that you're done much faster :P [19:50] ohh ok lol. then ill do the phigh [19:53] Is r128 driver actually exist in system? may be it built in kernel? [19:54] ha ha ha man r128 [19:54] ) [19:57] so how do i use it? [19:57] dpkg -l *r128* said me that I had been installed this driver too [19:58] so how do i make it use the driver [19:59] sudo modprobe r128 [20:00] it did it with a warning [20:01] no. How can he use both driver (VGA and r128) at the time? It's impossible. LittleItaly you should make xorg.conf [20:02] ok [20:02] then make sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [20:03] !xorg.conf [20:03] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [20:06] LittleItaly, Look at "Setting resolution changes in xorg.conf" paragraph. You need something like that. [20:06] ok [20:12] Or just try to change option Driver to "Driver r128" and reboot. may be it will enaugh for you [20:40] Besogon, i have fixed it [20:41] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495256 [20:41] and http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3_AGP_2x [21:46] <_Trinity_> say is Xubuntu plug i and play as ubuntu was when it supported ppc? [21:47] _Trinity_: xubuntu pretty much *is* ubuntu with a different UI, and very little of the dark magic is handled by the UI [21:47] _Trinity_: so yeah if ubuntu worked fine for you on your hardware, then xubuntu will too [21:49] <_Trinity_> so itl load right into xfce [21:49] <_Trinity_> great [21:50] yes [21:50] i've installed it on three (admittedly kinda old) boxen and it just worked [21:50] nice how everything works so quickly on a 2.8ghz pentium 4 :) [21:50] <_Trinity_> anything like a 400Mhz? [21:51] _Trinity_: no the slowest was a 1.4 athlon [21:51] _Trinity_: you might want to try a different window manager if you want to install it on something that slow [21:51] <_Trinity_> I hope I can wath streamed videos on my iMac DV but that may be asking for too much [21:51] _Trinity_: back when the dinosaurs ruled the earth, i was on a 233mhz pentium MMX and used windowmaker [21:51] <_Trinity_> lol [21:52] _Trinity_: and there's not so much different about linux that means that ubuntu + windowmaker will be significantly slower than red hat 6.2 + windowmaker was back then [21:52] <_Trinity_> sure, Il look around and see if any of my old window managers are still being developed [21:52] so yeah, give it a shot [21:52] _Trinity_: fvwm and windowmaker still are [21:53] _Trinity_: i almost switched to fvwm a little while ago, but sadly, the fvwm menu command line tools don't support ubuntu menus :< [21:53] <_Trinity_> fvwm?? isn that loaded by default with X11? [21:53] or rather, whatever application menu system ubuntu uses [21:53] _Trinity_: no, you might be thinking twm, fvwm has always been separate [21:53] <_Trinity_> bare minimum of a wm [21:54] <_Trinity_> oh [21:54] <_Trinity_> fluxbox seemed interesting years ago [21:54] _Trinity_: heh yes === PlaYStatiON is now known as PLaYSTatiON [21:54] _Trinity_: all those neat customisable window managers/environments were fun to me a few years ago [21:54] then i realised i just don't have the time for that [21:55] <_Trinity_> well, once I get Xubuntu instaled Il see what around in the repositories [21:55] gone are the days when i would spend days on a custom fvwm setup, and fight off dinosaurs while listening to that hip new artist "beethoven" etc [21:55] <_Trinity_> same here, and that why I thought about xfce on Xubuntu, but wel see how it performs [21:56] _Trinity_: i dare say somewhere between "bag of shit" and "slower than molasses" [21:56] <_Trinity_> LOL! [21:56] but another desktop environment won't hurt that at all [21:56] windowmaker will do just fine for a slow system [21:57] <_Trinity_> there was a fluxbox bsaed verssion of ubuntu but lst i checked it didn go anywhere [21:57] _Trinity_: not to worry, you can always install fluxbox and make it your window manager [21:58] <_Trinity_> how about E17? Enlightenment? [21:58] _Trinity_: yeah probably [21:58] wow, i just about remember enlightenment lol [22:00] how long have you been using linux _Trinity_? [22:01] <_Trinity_> I used to use it back in university [22:01] <_Trinity_> used it for about 5 years [22:01] like what year did you start? [22:01] you remember enlightenment so it's been a while lol [22:01] <_Trinity_> I started sometime after ubuntu started [22:02] <_Trinity_> warty? [22:02] <_Trinity_> and hoary? [22:02] <_Trinity_> I ws around about then [22:02] <_Trinity_> always used the ppc ports [22:02] oh okay [22:02] * lc2 has been using linux since about 1998 [22:03] <_Trinity_> but I wasn t using ubuntu or any sort of linux when ppc got dropped [22:03] full-time since 2001 [22:03] <_Trinity_> so thats my issue [22:03] i switched to freebsd for a few years then came back around the time of hardy [22:03] <_Trinity_> I used debian before and fiddled around with mandrake, as it ws called [22:04] wow, lol [22:04] <_Trinity_> and yellowdog but those were not even close to my taste [22:04] mandrake [22:04] old times, lol [22:04] <_Trinity_> and mandrake also dropped oficial support for ppc [22:04] <_Trinity_> and that was really felt when running it [22:04] mm :< [22:05] <_Trinity_> so I have worries about ppc ubuntu going the same way and ruining my user experience [22:05] <_Trinity_> on this iMac, since it became my main computer now that my laptop is on the fritz [22:06] wow that sucks :/ [22:06] like one of those big CRT-based imacs? [22:06] <_Trinity_> yeah [22:06] <_Trinity_> everything looks dark [22:07] <_Trinity_> especially pics [22:07] nice [22:07] haha [22:08] <_Trinity_> its more reliaable than the yonah based macbook pros that cost me a bundle of $$. Apple is shit now [22:08] <_Trinity_> excuse my language [22:08] forgiven [22:08] i've sometimes wanted a mac [22:09] but i don't think i could change how i work that easily [22:10] <_Trinity_> yeah, I got used t them in university and always ran both OS X and Linux side by side, dual boots [22:10] i also couldn't do without a fast native version of gimp, even if photoshop exists and might be superior [22:11] <_Trinity_> I bought one window based once and swore t never buy another pc. So I got turned off of pcs because of windows [22:11] although gimp 2.8 is going to suck so much that i might have to find something else :/ [22:11] <_Trinity_> really the yonah processor is an intel processor [22:12] <_Trinity_> so really I got burned by buying a pc again [22:12] eh, for almost as long as i've had my own computer i've been running linux, so i'm not really burned by PCs [22:13] <_Trinity_> well, thank for ansering my questions. I got to move on. I expect to install Xubuntu later today. [22:14] _Trinity_: okay :) [22:14] i'm not sure if i even answered your questions but that's okay, hahaha [22:15] have a good day :) [22:18] Hello, i dont know why, but after configuring my xorg.conf i have no sound. the only soundi get is beeping when xubuntu boots and turns off [22:21] !sound | LittleItaly [22:21] LittleItaly: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [22:25] Got a question if I may. Using Xubuntu 9.04. All works well but if I reboot the box I lose the settings for my display refresh rate. Tried using settings/settings editor but can't seem to lock it down. Seems to be a bit more of an XFCE issue. Any general help in the right direction would be great! [22:27] what volume control is it talking about TheSheep? [22:44] LittleItaly: right-click on the panel, select 'add item', scroll down to 'volume control' and drag it onto the panel [22:47] i had that and it doesnt show alsa mixer [22:47] jarmenda: hmmm [22:48] how did changing my xorg.conf file mess with my sound? [22:48] jarmenda: are you using a CRT [22:48] LittleItaly: it didn't, xorg.conf has nothing to do with sound [22:48] is there a command or something to restore default sound settings? cause it was working [22:49] or do you think installing the closest alsa driver to my sound card will work [22:52] make sure whatever program you are using is using the proper output driver [22:52] program being music/whatever else program [22:52] that's not directly related to changing your xorg.conf, since X has nothing at all to do with sound [22:54] <_Trinity_> lc2: say what's the difference between installing the alternate Xubuntu and alternate Ubuntu CD? [22:54] _Trinity_: your default window manager [22:54] well, i can see that in my sound mixer the output of my ess 1983 is not there anymore [22:55] <_Trinity_> but doesn't the alternate CD just install a server type install without X? [22:55] _Trinity_: i believe so [22:55] <_Trinity_> so there woul probably be little difference [22:55] _Trinity_: yes [22:55] <_Trinity_> because that might be my best option for my iMac, a server install and then manuall install a wm over [22:56] LittleItaly: sorry, you'll have to wait around for someone more experienced than me with ubuntu, i don't know how editing your xorg.conf could cause that [22:56] <_Trinity_> back to my debian days [23:53] trying to install alsa, but the make file is not working [23:53] and then make install does not work [23:54] ./configure works and does its thing [23:54] alsa already comes with xubuntu