=== Guest85855 is now known as hjbehling [00:00] genii: found a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/330004 [00:01] Walex: Thank's for your patience. I use Amarok also and I have used it in the past to play CDs. I haven't played any music from CDs with either Amarok or KsCD for that matter. Right now Amarock also shows no CD as inserted. Perhaps this is a larger problem than I realize. [00:02] how much damage would apt-get install sysvinit do? [00:02] pulaski: unlikely to be a larger problem. You can anyhow check that the drive and/or the CD in the drive is recognized in severaql ways. [00:03] joshua__: If I recall, the system is moving away from sysvinit [00:03] !upstart [00:03] Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ === root is now known as Guest71027 [00:05] they seem to not have the utter reliability that sysvinit still has [00:06] how so? [00:06] maybe you've got it too [00:06] try exiting from a console login [00:06] I don't get another login prompt [00:10] joshua__: are ya trying to restart x-server with ctrl+alt+backspace? [00:10] I re-enabled that keystroke after an X hang that brought the system down [00:10] unfortunately it doesn't respawn X [00:10] or exit from a console shell doesn't restart that either [00:11] it happens to me sometimes [00:11] killing and reruning kvm usualy does the trick [00:11] err kdm [00:13] a getty not coming back though (same bug different instance) is absolutely unacceptable [00:16] joshua__: What reports result of: runlevel [00:16] Walex: Yes my device manager allows me to rip tracks using K3b which I have just done successfully. It also allows me to view the contents of the CD audio disc using Dolphin however none of the files appear. I don't want to waste your time. All I want to do is play a cd. I wil struggle with this further on my own. Thanks for your help. [00:16] N 2 [00:17] Hm, N 2 is correct [00:18] are those files in /etc/event.d shell scripts? [00:20] I'm preparing to do something absolutely drastic [00:20] joshua__: Posting 9 here looks hopeful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058964 [00:23] huh [00:23] well let's see if that works [00:23] going down for reboot [00:23] * genii makes more coffee [00:26] hi everybody [00:26] that did it alright [00:26] i need some help [00:26] i have deleted my network by mistake [00:27] oops [00:27] network manager sorry [00:27] i can t reinstall because i don t have casse to internet anymore [00:27] access [00:27] double oops [00:28] but how are you on irc? [00:28] with my second pc yes [00:28] become root on no-network pc === miguel_ is now known as Guest27233 [00:28] run ifconfig on second pc [00:29] ping each IP address in subnet until you find an unusable one [00:29] probably in the 192.168.0 or 192.168.1 range [00:29] 192.168.1.1 doesn t work [00:29] that's probably your router [00:29] yes [00:30] therefore try assigning the dead pc 192.168.1.5 [00:30] how i can re install the network man,ager without downloading ? [00:30] you will be downloading [00:30] to assign by hand, use ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 up [00:30] ok [00:31] route add default gw 192.168.1.1 [00:32] always with ifconfig? === waly is now known as neo-reload [00:32] the second command does not use ifconfig [00:32] route is its own command [00:32] ok [00:32] thanks joshua__ [00:32] try traceroute 1.2.3.4 and see if it goes anywhere [00:33] it should get a few hops before dropping [00:34] 1.2.3.4 is a pentagon ip i don t want to go to guantanamo [00:34] ifconfig eth0 up and dhclient eth0 should work in most situations where ppl have a router [00:34] I'm not used to having consistant names for dhcp client [00:35] last I checked 1.2.3.4 is unallocated [00:35] i was kidding :) [00:36] oh man ubuntu doesn't install traceroute by default [00:37] tracepath [00:37] I'd go ahead and try dhclient and hope that works [00:37] if not, the last step is a bit more painful [00:39] blikou? [00:40] no ezffect [00:40] i can ping outside [00:40] good [00:40] but i can t see the packages [00:40] it can t see [00:40] try to reach www.google.com === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [00:40] i can t [00:40] dns [00:41] I was afraid of that [00:41] you will need to transfer /etc/resolv.conf from your working system to this one [00:41] i can t [00:41] it is win xp [00:41] hmmm [00:41] blikou: sudo dhclient -r eth0 ; sudo dhclient eth0 and then try ping goole or so again [00:42] ok thanks genii [00:42] I thought he just said dhclient didn't work [00:42] no one gave him command syntax [00:42] 'r for remove? [00:42] -r [00:42] blikou: Yes -r is "release" [00:42] duh [00:42] hi i want to download video from daylimotions but with the addons of firefox say me Unrecognized Site Input: Could not retrieve .flv file. [00:43] what i can do? [00:44] reagle, o how I wish [00:45] great it is working :) [00:45] thanks joshua__ and genii [00:46] you know, I miss my old trick of keeping an emergerncy toolset in /proc/1/fd/3 [00:48] I had a nice set of static binaries from the initial initrd [00:51] I'm trying to connect to a microsoft VPN with PPTP. I installed the network-manager-pptp package but my no PPTP option is available under manage connectinos. [00:52] Just OpenVPN and VPNC [00:52] I also rebooted since the install. [00:58] hi [00:59] i just installed zenwalk on sda1 and now i want to add it to GRUB Bootloader where I already have kubuntu [00:59] but how can I see what hd(0,?) sda1 has ? [00:59] 0,0 ? [01:01] hey [01:01] sup guys [01:01] need some help with grub [01:02] that is stupid but i have lost my clock on the task bar [01:02] how i can recover it? [01:03] blikou: right click the panel, select add widget, selcect digital watch and it should be back in [01:05] ok [01:05] thanks kathrin [01:20] any who can help me with grub? [01:21] i want to add Zenwalk to it, but it wont work [01:21] http://pastebin.com/d147cea93 [01:21] this is menu.lst [01:21] Laeborg: sda1 usually corresponds to 0,0 sda2 to 0,1 sdb1 1,0 etc [01:25] # [01:25] title Zenwalk 6.0.1 [01:25] # [01:25] root (hd0,0) [01:25] # [01:25] Laeborg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:25] chainloader +1 [01:25] sorry [01:27] Laeborg: The examples I see at http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=Fresh_grub_install shows not a chainloader entry but a line like: kernel vmlinuz-2.6.18.6 root=/dev/sda5 so you need to know the vmlinuz name in it's /boot [01:28] okay will try that === x-ray-3_ is now known as x-ray-3 [01:32] didnt work :/ [01:52] Is there anyway for me to change the icon of chromium-browser (besides the hicolor ones) so that it is always that icon even when it updates. I can only change it for the menu and launching but not what shows in the task manager. Anyway to make it permanent? [02:06] It seems that I have something playing in a WINE window. It does not appear to be playing audio. Any way to check why that is? === reinhold is now known as reinhold_away [02:10] the window is labeled "X-System" === x-ray-3 is now known as xray3 === xray3 is now known as frakturfreak === frakturfreak is now known as xray3 [02:20] hello [02:22] hi [02:22] I messed up my "trash bin". I accidentally deleted it with the mouse. Then I undid the deletion. After that it fails to work in every respect, it has nothing in it, it won't empty, I can't fine the Trash file (I forgot it's name but it's a hidden file) and other users can't use trash either. [02:23] !trash [02:23] The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash [02:25] I have the newes version [02:25] I just downloaded and installed this week [02:25] brb [02:26] ok found it [02:27] should I simply delete it? I want to restore the functionality [02:29] bazhang: what does !trash do? [02:30] what I'd like to do is to purge the application that governs trash and then reinstall it [02:30] xandermiller, its a factoid request to the bot. tells you info about the location change of the trash [02:30] Oh [02:30] !trash [02:30] The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash [02:31] thanks, I thought the bot was a person [02:31] kind of like my wife === ghost is now known as Guest99882 === Guest99882 is now known as ghost_ === ghost_ is now known as disconnect1010 === aaroncampbell_ is now known as aaroncampbell [04:08] is there an easy way to open a kate file as root instead of using terminal? [04:09] through dolphin [04:12] login to kde/gnome/whatever as root [04:13] lein: That is strongly NOT a good suggestion [04:13] Is there a good terminal based editor for editing config files? lol [04:14] CoJaBo-Aztec: I usually use sudo nano /etc/filename [04:14] genii: didn't say it was a good idea. just an answer to zuz__ question [04:15] im scared of using nano [04:15] genii: Needs to be something simple, but nano breaks the syntax with its word wrap... why? [04:15] im trying to config privoxy [04:15] wanted to use kate [04:15] but then when i saved it was it couldnt [04:15] so im trying to open it as root [04:15] try emacs or vi [04:15] Nano is pretty easy, but beware of word wrap. Is there a better easy one? [04:15] but i dont know the commands [04:15] CoJaBo-Aztec: vi/vim then [04:16] I had to use kill to get out of vi last time I started it lol [04:16] zuz__: alt-f2 then: kdesudo kate [04:19] genii thats exactly what i wanted, thanks alot [04:20] zuz__: You're welcome [04:25] ok now this is something ive been wondering for a long time, but always forget to search since I only remember when im closing firefox, lets see if someone knows [04:25] why is it that sometimes when you close firefox the option of close and save tabs is not available [04:28] do you guys like Akonadi i dont know if i likie it or not [04:28] a little confused about it [04:29] hmmm let me see if i know what akonadi is [04:30] !akonadi [04:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about akonadi [04:30] Hm === IceBreaker is now known as Guest22408 === christyjohn is now known as ChristyJohn [05:24] Hi, I'm considering switching to Ubuntu. Can anyone here tell me how the package management works in real life? [05:25] I'm faced with my 5th Gentoo reinstall, in 3 years. [05:25] Obviously, I want to put something in which won't break. [05:25] mike_yung: debian derivativeslike *buntu use dpkg and apt. [05:26] !apt [05:26] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) [05:27] The front-ends vary as you can see by the factoid [05:27] I used debian, 6 years ago. apt-get didn't work that well for me, back then. [05:27] but now we have front ends [05:27] how are they? [05:27] mike_yung: I tend to just use the CLI with apt-get or aptitude [05:28] You get more useful info if something fails [05:29] so things fail here to? [05:29] that's my experience with debian, years back. [05:29] mike_yung: Usually not when installing packages from official repositories [05:30] things fail. when you try to fix it everything breaks [05:30] ah, I see [05:30] However many people add Launchpad PPA repositories, medibuntu, etc etc [05:31] OK. Thanks. [05:31] What's Ubuntu hardy? [05:32] mike_yung: It's the 2008, April release [05:32] (hence the 8.04 designation) [05:32] mike_yung: LTS (longterm support) releases are every 2 years...it was the previous LTS version [05:33] The next will be 10.04 [05:33] Is it official? I need MediaTomb. It's currently in Debian unstable, Debian testing and Ubuntu hardy. [05:33] mike_yung: Still supported for a while yet :) [05:33] !eol [05:33] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [05:34] The above link shows what releases are supported until when [05:36] OK, thanks. Nice to get it first hand. [05:36] All the web sites claim to be the one. [05:50] hi [05:50] i have problems activating screen edges === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor === nn is now known as Guest78586 [06:02] high [06:02] Hello [06:04] hi [06:05] is there anybody who can help me with kylix [06:06] hello there [06:17] can someone help me with a problem i have with svn? [06:18] Hmm. [06:18] Kylix is somthing ive not heard of in a Long time [06:20] !kylix [06:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about kylix [06:20] !svn [06:20] svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/ [06:21] ohhh so its like a new pharmacy... like CVS [06:21] :P [06:21] yeah [06:21] but [06:21] kylix is for programming in delphi [06:21] can i refill my adderall there? [06:22] when i try to upload a new version of an arhive i keep getting this problem [06:22] yeah 3 years of computer science about 5 years ago, i unlearned most of it [06:22] [06:22] svn: Failed the commit (details below): [06:22] svn: Authorization failed [06:22] yamishi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:23] i got kylix already but gave it errors that right now i can not solve it [06:23] im trying to understand tor [06:23] !tor [06:23] Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [06:23] what in the name of the lord is tor [06:23] ok so lets not use tor for irc..... [06:24] makes you stealth :) [06:24] kinda [06:24] kool [06:24] http://www.torproject.org/overview.html.en [06:24] so you can surf online anonymous [06:25] this laptop only has kubuntu, no windows, no mac os [06:29] Tor on 9.04 had 'issues' [06:29] like .. it not being in the repos.. even tho other packages depended on it. :) [07:04] can someone please help me fix krunner [07:05] http://pastebin.ca/S:1547979 [07:05] this is the error i get [07:05] page not found navetz [07:06] it's there without the S: [07:06] oh shit didn't notice that [07:06] thanks [07:06] try gooleing for "org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorag' === dreaman is now known as groowy [07:07] okay thanks [07:10] hello, i have a strange problem when i was using ubuntu never happened but now i m using kubuntu but it happened.. while i m listening music on audacious i cant hear anything else eg. pidgin sounds or another aplications. I tryied to play video on youtube but cant hear anything only the played music on audacious [07:10] any idea? [07:17] hello anyone here?? [07:33] groowy: I think I know why [07:33] groowy: fixing is probably complicated [07:35] dwidmann: can we try? i ll be appreciate if you can help [07:36] groowy: I've never been very good with this sort of thing actually ... I'll take a peak around and see if I can find a good forum post in the mean time though [07:37] groowy: anyhow, it has something to do with the program taking exclusive control of the sound device [07:37] groowy: setting up some sort of software mixing with alsa config or maybe pulseaudio would be the fixes I'd look for [07:37] dwidmann: thank you, i googled it but it s very strange to search "cant hear other aplications while one running" [07:38] dwidmann: thank you [07:39] Here's how to setup alsa level software mixing: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix#The_Dmix_Howto ... provided the document isn't too intimidating [07:41] thank you dwidmann_ let me check it [07:49] dwidmann_: thank you!!! :) it works [07:50] groowy: oooh, cool [07:51] dwidmann_: it s done after "apt-get install alsa-oss alsaplayer mpg321 alsaplayer-alsa alsa-base [07:51] " [07:55] hmmm, whatever works! [07:55] dwidmann_: did you fix you connection since yesterday? [07:55] Mamarok: Don't really know what was going on yesterday [07:56] Mamarok: I assume it was temporary because I don't usually have much trouble [07:56] wello, it looked scary [07:57] Mamarok: think it happened while I was out, so I came home to a boatload of crazy in Quassel, but it seems pretty normal now [07:57] going on for almost 2 hours [07:57] I was not around neither, I've only seen it when I came back, too [07:59] Guten morgen, brauche bitte eine einweisung für quassel kann mir jemand helfen? [08:00] !de | mamasue [08:00] mamasue: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [08:01] Thanks mamarok [08:02] you are welcome mamasue [08:48] hi there all [08:53] Hello. The default session type on my computer keeps going back to Gnome, even though I've selected KDE multiple times. Is there a config file somewhere I can check or something? === thoben is now known as Thoben [08:54] certian packages are blocked is this supposed to be the case [08:54] on my install and upgrade [08:55] hi [08:55] hello [08:55] i have some question [08:55] ircd refuse connection from outside [08:56] what i must change on ircd.conf [08:59] are you behind a router/firewall? [08:59] yes [09:00] but port is redirected [09:01] it connects only with loaclhost [09:01] localhost* [09:02] auth {}: allow users to connect to the ircd (OLD I: [09:02] there is only user = "*@127.0.0.1"; [09:02] must i add some lines? [09:04] ive never configured 'ircd' so no idea. when in doubt check its docs/faq i imagine. [09:04] ok, i have googled 2 days now :) [09:05] but thanks [09:21] if the irc server is that poorly docmented.. time to try a different irc server im guessing [09:23] :) [09:23] i will :) [09:24] i`m still to noob and all stuff takes time [09:25] yes i get it to work :) [09:26] * Dr_Willis wont ask why you even want to run an irc server.... [09:26] :P [09:27] friend ask [09:27] mu pc 24/7 online [09:27] my* [09:27] do have anonymous chat [09:28] he could just join/make some channel here... [09:28] Maybe he/she would like to play with an irc server... [09:28] yes he have [09:29] 'i want to play with somthing, so will you install some services on your box that may put your pc at risk in ways you dont understand for me?' :) [09:29] i learn linux [09:30] first risk is power up pc :p [09:30] whats the specific IRC server youa re trying to run? theres several you can use. [09:30] !ircd [09:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about ircd [09:30] !irc [09:30] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [09:30] i have running now :) [09:31] Dr_Willis: Ugh.. "on your box"? [09:31] what is best kubuntu irc client? [09:31] You have 'what' running now? [09:31] theres 3 irc servers in the reposiutories. [09:31] ircd-hybrid [09:31] Just get inspircd. [09:32] Simple-er. (Okay, fine, so I only tried one, big deal). [09:32] IRC contact: #ircd-coders on irc.ircd-hybrid.org [09:33] their web page is very lacking in the docs area.. i dont even see a forum [09:34] :) [09:34] jeerum: You could try Inspircd. [09:34] is this command line irc client? [09:35] Are we talking about clients now or servers?? [09:35] i have server [09:35] http://forum.ircd-hybrid.org/ [09:36] You have a server you cant figture out how to configure.. :) [09:36] i only need to allow outside connection and now i have [09:36] another stuff is easyer [09:37] seeing the quality of the ircd-hybrid docs/web site..i would have to suggest some other IRC server to play with. [09:38] :P [09:38] dont plan make nothing big [09:38] unless thers some man pages or other guides on using it. [09:38] Hmm, I thought I may of been sort of help, whatever floats your boat. [09:39] Im not seeing any.. and it seems to not be very popular. [09:39] The docs give that IRC channel and a URL to a forum site that seems to be down. [09:39] what is best server then? [09:39] best depends on your needs. [09:39] jeerum: I used inspricd and it's good for what I need it to do. [09:39] Tyeres irc servers written in perl and ruby and other languages as well. [09:39] UnrealIRCD is good too. [09:40] mibbit.com uses that. [09:40] http://pircd.sourceforge.net/ [09:41] 06/05/02 - pircd Beta One is out! Not quite as exciting as Beta Zero, but if it were, then it would be called Gamma Zero [09:41] heh,,, last update was 02 :) [09:41] Wow, Dr_Willis. Does www.unrealircd.com work? [09:41] work as in the web site works? or the sever functions? [09:41] The page isn't loading for me. [09:42] sems dead here also [09:42] Bleh, then it's down. [09:44] heh heres a basic irc server in about 100 lines of Python code [09:44] http://twistedmatrix.com/pipermail/twisted-python/2001-December/000619.html [09:44] and one in ruby [09:45] http://code.google.com/p/ruby-ircd/ [09:46] * Dr_Willis goes backto cleaning out his hard drive. [09:52] hey all :) [09:53] Hiiddly Hoo! [09:53] is there a command to show the boot process messages, etc that linux goes through in konsole? [09:53] same kinda stuff as in the console tty screen [09:56] theres the /var/log files [09:56] you could show them in a terminal with 'tail -f /var/log/WHATEVER' [09:56] thers other 'log tail' tools out also [09:56] top shows running processes... hmm... [09:56] htop is more info then top :) [09:56] looks nicer also [10:09] yes and more user friendly [10:10] how to manually set ipaddress,subnet mask, gateway [10:18] ifconfig? I guess === forge_ is now known as ForgeAus [10:22] ForgeAus: any method with GUI [10:23] gui, use the system-settings applet for network settings [10:23] When I open network manager, click on add wired network connection and then select Manual Ip..............the 'add' becomes enabled but nothing happens when I press it [10:24] uh maybe ask in #KDE? I don't know, it could be a bug... I would just assume it should work normally... [10:24] afaik network-manager can't do static IPs [10:25] cor? interesting... [10:25] I prefer /etc/network/interfaces, way easier [10:25] Hmm.. I thought network manager could set static ips [10:25] !static [10:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about static [10:25] if you want static, remove gui rubbish and do it direct. or use wicd [10:25] I don't use it, but last time I checked it could not [10:26]