[00:00] <joshua__> genii: found a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/330004
[00:01] <pulaski> Walex: Thank's for your patience.  I use Amarok also and I have used it in the past to play CDs.  I haven't played any music from CDs with either Amarok or KsCD for that matter.  Right now Amarock also shows no CD as inserted.  Perhaps this is a larger problem than I realize.
[00:02] <joshua__> how much damage would apt-get install sysvinit do?
[00:02] <Walex> pulaski: unlikely to be a larger problem. You can anyhow check that the drive and/or the CD in the drive is recognized in severaql ways.
[00:03] <genii> joshua__: If I recall, the system is moving away from sysvinit
[00:03] <genii> !upstart
[00:05] <joshua__> they seem to not have the utter reliability that sysvinit still has
[00:06] <maco> how so?
[00:06] <joshua__> maybe you've got it too
[00:06] <joshua__> try exiting from a console login
[00:06] <joshua__> I don't get another login prompt
[00:10] <avihayb> joshua__: are ya trying to restart x-server with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[00:10] <joshua__> I re-enabled that keystroke after an X hang that brought the system down
[00:10] <joshua__> unfortunately it doesn't respawn X
[00:10] <joshua__> or exit from a console shell doesn't restart that either
[00:11] <avihayb> it happens to me sometimes
[00:11] <avihayb> killing and reruning kvm usualy does the trick
[00:11] <avihayb> err kdm
[00:13] <joshua__> a getty not coming back though (same bug different instance) is absolutely unacceptable
[00:16] <genii> joshua__: What reports result of: runlevel
[00:16] <pulaski> Walex: Yes my device manager allows me to rip tracks using K3b which I have just done successfully.  It also allows me to view the contents of the CD audio disc using Dolphin however none of the files appear.  I don't want to waste your time.  All I want to do is play a cd.  I wil struggle with this further on my own.  Thanks for your help.
[00:16] <joshua__> N 2
[00:17] <genii> Hm, N 2 is correct
[00:18] <joshua__> are those files in /etc/event.d shell scripts?
[00:20] <joshua__> I'm preparing to do something absolutely drastic
[00:20] <genii> joshua__: Posting 9 here looks hopeful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058964
[00:23] <joshua__> huh
[00:23] <joshua__> well let's see if that works
[00:23] <joshua__> going down for reboot
[00:23]  * genii makes more coffee
[00:26] <blikou> hi everybody
[00:26] <joshua__> that did it alright
[00:26] <blikou> i need some help
[00:26] <blikou> i have deleted my network by mistake
[00:27] <joshua__> oops
[00:27] <blikou> network manager sorry
[00:27] <blikou> i can t reinstall because i don t have casse to internet anymore
[00:27] <blikou> access
[00:27] <joshua__> double oops
[00:28] <joshua__> but how are you on irc?
[00:28] <blikou> with my second pc yes
[00:28] <joshua__> become root on no-network pc
[00:28] <joshua__> run ifconfig on second pc
[00:29] <joshua__> ping each IP address in subnet until you find an unusable one
[00:29] <joshua__> probably in the 192.168.0 or 192.168.1 range
[00:29] <blikou> 192.168.1.1 doesn t work
[00:29] <joshua__> that's probably your router
[00:29] <blikou> yes
[00:30] <joshua__> therefore try assigning the dead pc 192.168.1.5
[00:30] <blikou> how i can re install the network man,ager without downloading ?
[00:30] <joshua__> you will be downloading
[00:30] <joshua__> to assign by hand, use ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 up
[00:30] <blikou> ok
[00:31] <joshua__> route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[00:32] <blikou> always with ifconfig?
[00:32] <joshua__> the second command does not use ifconfig
[00:32] <joshua__> route is its own command
[00:32] <blikou> ok
[00:32] <blikou> thanks joshua__
[00:32] <joshua__> try traceroute 1.2.3.4 and see if it goes anywhere
[00:33] <joshua__> it should get a few hops before dropping
[00:34] <blikou> 1.2.3.4 is a pentagon ip i don t want to go to guantanamo
[00:34] <genii> ifconfig eth0 up     and dhclient eth0       should work in most situations where ppl have a router
[00:34] <joshua__> I'm not used to having consistant names for dhcp client
[00:35] <joshua__> last I checked 1.2.3.4 is unallocated
[00:35] <blikou> i was kidding :)
[00:36] <joshua__> oh man ubuntu doesn't install traceroute by default
[00:37] <genii> tracepath
[00:37] <joshua__> I'd go ahead and try dhclient and hope that works
[00:37] <joshua__> if not, the last step is a bit more painful
[00:39] <joshua__> blikou?
[00:40] <blikou> no ezffect
[00:40] <blikou> i can ping outside
[00:40] <joshua__> good
[00:40] <blikou> but i can t see the packages
[00:40] <blikou> it can t see
[00:40] <joshua__> try to reach www.google.com
[00:40] <blikou> i can t
[00:40] <genii> dns
[00:41] <joshua__> I was afraid of that
[00:41] <joshua__> you will need to transfer /etc/resolv.conf from your working system to this one
[00:41] <blikou> i can t
[00:41] <blikou> it is win xp
[00:41] <joshua__> hmmm
[00:41] <genii> blikou: sudo dhclient -r eth0 ; sudo dhclient eth0                   and then try ping goole or so again
[00:42] <blikou> ok thanks genii
[00:42] <joshua__> I thought he just said dhclient didn't work
[00:42] <genii> no one gave him command syntax
[00:42] <blikou> 'r for remove?
[00:42] <blikou> -r
[00:42] <genii> blikou: Yes -r is "release"
[00:42] <joshua__> duh
[00:42] <takoski> hi i want to download video from daylimotions but with the addons of firefox say me Unrecognized Site Input: Could not retrieve .flv file.
[00:43] <takoski> what i can do?
[00:44] <joshua__> reagle, o how I wish
[00:45] <blikou> great it is working :)
[00:45] <blikou> thanks joshua__ and genii
[00:46] <joshua__> you know, I miss my old trick of keeping an emergerncy toolset in /proc/1/fd/3
[00:48] <joshua__> I had a nice set of static binaries from the initial initrd
[00:51] <jinzougen> I'm trying to connect to a microsoft VPN with PPTP. I installed the network-manager-pptp package but my no PPTP option is available under manage connectinos.
[00:52] <jinzougen> Just OpenVPN and VPNC
[00:52] <jinzougen> I also rebooted since the install.
[00:58] <Laeborg> hi
[00:59] <Laeborg> i just installed zenwalk on sda1 and now i want to add it to GRUB Bootloader where I already have kubuntu
[00:59] <Laeborg> but how can I see what hd(0,?) sda1 has ?
[00:59] <Laeborg> 0,0 ?
[01:01] <sebastien_> hey
[01:01] <sebastien_> sup guys
[01:01] <Laeborg> need some help with grub
[01:02] <blikou> that is stupid but i have lost my clock on the task bar
[01:02] <blikou> how i can recover it?
[01:03] <kathrin> blikou: right click the panel, select add widget, selcect digital watch and it should be back in
[01:05] <blikou> ok
[01:05] <blikou> thanks kathrin
[01:20] <Laeborg> any who can help me with grub?
[01:21] <Laeborg> i want to add Zenwalk to it, but it wont work
[01:21] <Laeborg> http://pastebin.com/d147cea93
[01:21] <Laeborg> this is menu.lst
[01:21] <genii> Laeborg: sda1 usually corresponds to 0,0 sda2 to 0,1   sdb1 1,0                 etc
[01:25] <Laeborg> #
[01:25] <Laeborg> title           Zenwalk 6.0.1
[01:25] <Laeborg> #
[01:25] <Laeborg> root            (hd0,0)
[01:25] <Laeborg> #
[01:25] <FloodBotK1> Laeborg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:25] <Laeborg> chainloader     +1
[01:25] <Laeborg> sorry
[01:27] <genii> Laeborg: The examples I see at http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=Fresh_grub_install  shows not a chainloader entry but a line like: kernel vmlinuz-2.6.18.6 root=/dev/sda5       so you need to know the vmlinuz  name in it's /boot
[01:28] <Laeborg> okay will try that
[01:32] <Laeborg> didnt work :/
[01:52] <MTGap_> Is there anyway for me to change the icon of chromium-browser (besides the hicolor ones) so that it is always that icon even when it updates. I can only change it for the menu and launching but not what shows in the task manager. Anyway to make it permanent?
[02:06] <Byron> It seems that I have something playing in a WINE window. It does not appear to be playing audio. Any way to check why that is?
[02:10] <Byron> the window is labeled "X-System"
[02:20] <xandermiller> hello
[02:22] <bazhang> hi
[02:22] <xandermiller> I messed up my "trash bin". I accidentally deleted it with the mouse. Then I undid the deletion. After that it fails to work in every respect, it has nothing in it, it won't empty, I can't fine the Trash file (I forgot it's name but it's a hidden file) and other users can't use trash either.
[02:23] <bazhang> !trash
[02:25] <xandermiller> I have the newes version
[02:25] <xandermiller> I just downloaded and installed this week
[02:25] <xandermiller> brb
[02:26] <xandermiller> ok found it
[02:27] <xandermiller> should I simply delete it? I want to restore the functionality
[02:29] <xandermiller> bazhang: what does !trash do?
[02:30] <xandermiller> what I'd like to do is to purge the application that governs trash and then reinstall it
[02:30] <bazhang> xandermiller, its a factoid request to the bot. tells you info about the location change of the trash
[02:30] <xandermiller> Oh
[02:30] <xandermiller> !trash
[02:31] <xandermiller> thanks, I thought the bot was a person
[02:31] <xandermiller> kind of like my wife
[04:08] <zuz__> is there an easy way to open a kate file as root instead of using terminal?
[04:09] <zuz__> through dolphin
[04:12] <lein> login to kde/gnome/whatever as root
[04:13] <genii> lein: That is strongly NOT a good suggestion
[04:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there a good terminal based editor for editing config files? lol
[04:14] <genii> CoJaBo-Aztec: I usually use sudo nano /etc/filename
[04:14] <lein> genii: didn't say it was a good idea. just an answer to  zuz__ question
[04:15] <zuz__> im scared of using nano
[04:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> genii: Needs to be something simple, but nano breaks the syntax with its word wrap... why?
[04:15] <zuz__> im trying to config privoxy
[04:15] <zuz__> wanted to use kate
[04:15] <zuz__> but then when i saved it was it couldnt
[04:15] <zuz__> so im trying to open it as root
[04:15] <lein> try emacs or vi
[04:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Nano is pretty easy, but beware of word wrap. Is there a better easy one?
[04:15] <zuz__> but i dont know the commands
[04:15] <genii> CoJaBo-Aztec: vi/vim then
[04:16] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I had to use kill to get out of vi last time I started it lol
[04:16] <genii> zuz__: alt-f2     then:  kdesudo kate
[04:19] <zuz__> genii thats exactly what i wanted, thanks alot
[04:20] <genii> zuz__: You're welcome
[04:25] <zuz__> ok now this is something ive been wondering for a long time, but always forget to search since I only remember when im closing firefox, lets see if someone knows
[04:25] <zuz__> why is it that sometimes when you close firefox the option of close and save tabs is not available
[04:28] <webbb> do you guys like Akonadi i dont know if i likie it or not
[04:28] <webbb> a little confused about it
[04:29] <zuz__> hmmm let me see if i know what akonadi is
[04:30] <genii> !akonadi
[04:30] <genii> Hm
[05:24] <mike_yung> Hi, I'm considering switching to Ubuntu.  Can anyone here tell me how the package management works in real life?
[05:25] <mike_yung> I'm faced with my 5th Gentoo reinstall, in 3 years.
[05:25] <mike_yung> Obviously, I want to put something in which won't break.
[05:25] <genii> mike_yung: debian derivativeslike *buntu use dpkg and apt.
[05:26] <genii> !apt
[05:27] <genii> The front-ends vary as you can see by the factoid
[05:27] <mike_yung> I used debian, 6 years ago.  apt-get didn't work that well for me, back then.
[05:27] <mike_yung> but now we have front ends
[05:27] <mike_yung> how are they?
[05:27] <genii> mike_yung: I tend to just use the CLI with apt-get or aptitude
[05:28] <genii> You get more useful info if something fails
[05:29] <mike_yung> so things fail here to?
[05:29] <mike_yung> that's my experience with debian, years back.
[05:29] <genii> mike_yung: Usually not when installing packages from official repositories
[05:30] <mike_yung> things fail.  when you try to fix it everything breaks
[05:30] <mike_yung> ah, I see
[05:30] <genii> However many people add Launchpad PPA repositories, medibuntu, etc etc
[05:31] <mike_yung> OK.  Thanks.
[05:31] <mike_yung> What's Ubuntu hardy?
[05:32] <genii> mike_yung: It's the 2008, April release
[05:32] <genii> (hence the 8.04 designation)
[05:32] <genii> mike_yung: LTS (longterm support) releases are every 2 years...it was the previous LTS version
[05:33] <genii> The next will be 10.04
[05:33] <mike_yung> Is it official?  I need MediaTomb.  It's currently in Debian unstable, Debian testing and Ubuntu hardy.
[05:33] <genii> mike_yung: Still supported for a while yet :)
[05:33] <genii> !eol
[05:34] <genii> The above link shows what releases are supported until when
[05:36] <mike_yung> OK, thanks.  Nice to get it first hand.
[05:36] <mike_yung> All the web sites claim to be the one.
[05:50] <luiferares> hi
[05:50] <luiferares> i have problems activating screen edges
[06:02] <clint_> high
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Hello
[06:04] <zuz_> hi
[06:05] <pescado> is there anybody who can help me with kylix
[06:06] <pescado> hello there
[06:17] <yamishi> can someone help me with a problem i have with svn?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Kylix is somthing ive not heard of  in a Long time
[06:20] <zuz_> !kylix
[06:20] <zuz_> !svn
[06:21] <zuz_> ohhh so its like a new pharmacy...  like CVS
[06:21] <zuz_> :P
[06:21] <yamishi> yeah
[06:21] <yamishi> but
[06:21] <pescado> kylix is for programming in delphi
[06:21] <zuz_> can i refill my adderall there?
[06:22] <yamishi> when i try to upload a new version of an arhive i keep getting this problem
[06:22] <zuz_> yeah 3 years of computer science about 5 years ago, i unlearned most of it
[06:22] <yamishi> 	
[06:22] <yamishi> svn: Failed the commit (details below):
[06:22] <yamishi> svn: Authorization failed
[06:22] <FloodBotK1> yamishi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <pescado> i got kylix already but gave it errors that right now i can not solve it
[06:23] <zuz_> im trying to understand tor
[06:23] <zuz_> !tor
[06:23] <pescado> what in the name of the lord is tor
[06:23] <zuz_> ok so lets not use tor for irc.....
[06:24] <zuz_> makes you stealth  :)
[06:24] <zuz_> kinda
[06:24] <pescado> kool
[06:24] <zuz_> http://www.torproject.org/overview.html.en
[06:24] <zuz_> so you can surf online anonymous
[06:25] <zuz_> this laptop only has kubuntu, no windows, no mac os
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Tor on 9.04 had 'issues'
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> like .. it not being in the repos.. even tho other packages depended on it. :)
[07:04] <navetz> can someone please help me fix krunner
[07:05] <navetz> http://pastebin.ca/S:1547979
[07:05] <navetz> this is the error i get
[07:05] <Serpardum> page not found navetz
[07:06] <Serpardum> it's there without the S:
[07:06] <navetz> oh shit didn't notice that
[07:06] <navetz> thanks
[07:06] <Serpardum> try gooleing for "org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorag'
[07:07] <navetz> okay thanks
[07:10] <groowy> hello, i have a strange problem when i was using ubuntu never happened but now i m using kubuntu but it happened.. while i m listening music on audacious i cant hear anything else eg. pidgin sounds or another aplications. I tryied to play video on youtube but cant hear anything only the played music on audacious
[07:10] <groowy> any idea?
[07:17] <groowy> hello anyone here??
[07:33] <dwidmann_> groowy:  I think I know why
[07:33] <dwidmann_> groowy: fixing is probably complicated
[07:35] <groowy> dwidmann: can we try? i ll be appreciate if you can help
[07:36] <dwidmann_> groowy: I've never been very good with this sort of thing actually ... I'll take a peak around and see if I can find a good forum post in the mean time though
[07:37] <dwidmann_> groowy: anyhow, it has something to do with the program taking exclusive control of the sound device
[07:37] <dwidmann_> groowy: setting up some sort of software mixing with alsa config or maybe pulseaudio would be the fixes I'd look for
[07:37] <groowy> dwidmann: thank you, i googled it but it s very strange to search "cant hear other aplications while one running"
[07:38] <groowy> dwidmann: thank you
[07:39] <dwidmann_> Here's how to setup alsa level software mixing: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix#The_Dmix_Howto ... provided the document isn't too intimidating
[07:41] <groowy> thank you dwidmann_ let me check it
[07:49] <groowy> dwidmann_: thank you!!! :) it works
[07:50] <dwidmann_> groowy: oooh, cool
[07:51] <groowy> dwidmann_: it s done after "apt-get install alsa-oss alsaplayer mpg321 alsaplayer-alsa alsa-base
[07:51] <groowy> "
[07:55] <dwidmann_> hmmm, whatever works!
[07:55] <Mamarok> dwidmann_: did you fix you connection since yesterday?
[07:55] <dwidmann_> Mamarok: Don't really know what was going on yesterday
[07:56] <dwidmann_> Mamarok: I assume it was temporary because I don't usually have much trouble
[07:56] <Mamarok> wello, it looked scary
[07:57] <dwidmann_> Mamarok: think it happened while I was out, so I came home to a boatload of crazy in Quassel, but it seems pretty normal now
[07:57] <Mamarok> going on for almost 2 hours
[07:57] <Mamarok> I was not around neither, I've only seen it when I came back, too
[07:59] <mamasue> Guten morgen, brauche bitte eine einweisung für quassel kann mir jemand helfen?
[08:00] <Mamarok> !de | mamasue
[08:01] <mamasue> Thanks mamarok
[08:02] <Mamarok> you are welcome mamasue
[08:48] <btoogood> hi there all
[08:53] <ShishKabab> Hello. The default session type on my computer keeps going back to Gnome, even though I've selected KDE multiple times. Is there a config file somewhere I can check or something?
[08:54] <preston> certian packages are blocked is this supposed to be the case
[08:54] <preston> on my install and upgrade
[08:55] <jeerum> hi
[08:55] <preston> hello
[08:55] <jeerum> i have some question
[08:55] <jeerum> ircd refuse connection from outside
[08:56] <jeerum> what i must change on ircd.conf
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> are you behind a router/firewall?
[08:59] <jeerum> yes
[09:00] <jeerum> but port is redirected
[09:01] <jeerum> it connects only with loaclhost
[09:01] <jeerum> localhost*
[09:02] <jeerum> auth {}: allow users to connect to the ircd (OLD I:
[09:02] <jeerum> there is only 	user = "*@127.0.0.1";
[09:02] <jeerum> must i add some lines?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> ive never configured  'ircd' so  no idea.   when in doubt check its docs/faq i imagine.
[09:04] <jeerum> ok, i have googled 2 days now :)
[09:05] <jeerum> but thanks
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> if the irc server is that poorly docmented.. time to try a different irc server im guessing
[09:23] <jeerum> :)
[09:23] <jeerum> i will :)
[09:24] <jeerum> i`m still to noob and all stuff takes time
[09:25] <jeerum> yes i get it to work :)
[09:26]  * Dr_Willis wont ask why you even want to run an irc server....
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[09:27] <jeerum> friend ask
[09:27] <jeerum> mu pc 24/7 online
[09:27] <jeerum> my*
[09:27] <jeerum> do have anonymous chat
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> he could just join/make  some channel here...
[09:28] <xineohp> Maybe he/she would like to play with an irc server...
[09:28] <jeerum> yes he have
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> 'i want to play with somthing, so will you install some services on your box that may put your pc at risk in ways you dont understand for me?' :)
[09:29] <jeerum> i learn linux
[09:30] <jeerum> first risk is power up pc :p
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> whats the specific IRC server youa re trying to run? theres several you can use.
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> !ircd
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> !irc
[09:30] <jeerum> i have running now :)
[09:31] <xineohp> Dr_Willis: Ugh.. "on your box"?
[09:31] <jeerum> what is best kubuntu irc client?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> You  have 'what' running now?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> theres 3 irc servers in the reposiutories.
[09:31] <jeerum> ircd-hybrid
[09:31] <xineohp> Just get inspircd.
[09:32] <xineohp> Simple-er. (Okay, fine, so I only tried one, big deal).
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> IRC contact: #ircd-coders on irc.ircd-hybrid.org
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> their web page is very lacking in the docs area.. i dont even see a forum
[09:34] <jeerum> :)
[09:34] <xineohp> jeerum: You could try Inspircd.
[09:34] <jeerum> is this command line irc client?
[09:35] <xineohp> Are we talking about clients now or servers??
[09:35] <jeerum> i have server
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> http://forum.ircd-hybrid.org/
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> You have a server you cant figture out how to configure.. :)
[09:36] <jeerum> i only need to allow outside connection and now i have
[09:36] <jeerum> another stuff is easyer
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> seeing the quality of the ircd-hybrid docs/web site..i would have to suggest some other IRC server to play with.
[09:38] <jeerum> :P
[09:38] <jeerum> dont plan make nothing big
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> unless thers some man pages  or other guides on using it.
[09:38] <xineohp> Hmm, I thought I may of been sort of help, whatever floats your boat.
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Im not seeing any.. and it seems to not be very popular.
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> The docs give that IRC channel and a URL to a forum site that seems to be down.
[09:39] <jeerum> what is best server then?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> best depends on your needs.
[09:39] <xineohp> jeerum: I used inspricd and it's good for what I need it to do.
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Tyeres irc servers written in perl and ruby and other languages as well.
[09:39] <xineohp> UnrealIRCD is good too.
[09:40] <xineohp> mibbit.com uses that.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> http://pircd.sourceforge.net/
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> 06/05/02 - pircd Beta One is out! Not quite as exciting as Beta Zero, but if it were, then it would be called Gamma Zero
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> heh,,, last update was 02 :)
[09:41] <xineohp> Wow, Dr_Willis. Does www.unrealircd.com work?
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> work as in the web site works? or the sever functions?
[09:41] <xineohp> The page isn't loading for me.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> sems dead here also
[09:42] <xineohp> Bleh, then it's down.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> heh heres a basic irc server  in about 100 lines of Python code
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> http://twistedmatrix.com/pipermail/twisted-python/2001-December/000619.html
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> and one in ruby
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> http://code.google.com/p/ruby-ircd/
[09:46]  * Dr_Willis goes backto cleaning out his hard drive.
[09:52] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> Hiiddly Hoo!
[09:53] <ForgeAus> is there a command to show the boot process messages, etc that linux goes through in konsole?
[09:53] <ForgeAus> same kinda stuff as in the console tty screen
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> theres the /var/log files
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> you could  show them in a terminal with 'tail -f /var/log/WHATEVER'
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> thers other 'log tail' tools out also
[09:56] <ForgeAus> top shows running processes... hmm...
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> htop is more info then top :)
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> looks nicer also
[10:09] <ForgeAus> yes and more user friendly
[10:10] <apparle> how to manually set ipaddress,subnet mask, gateway
[10:18] <ForgeAus> ifconfig? I guess
[10:22] <apparle> ForgeAus: any method with GUI
[10:23] <ForgeAus> gui, use the system-settings applet for network settings
[10:23] <apparle> When I open network manager, click on add wired network connection and then select Manual Ip..............the 'add' becomes enabled but nothing happens when I press it
[10:24] <ForgeAus> uh maybe ask in #KDE? I don't know, it could be a bug... I would just assume it should work normally...
[10:24] <cor> afaik network-manager can't do static IPs
[10:25] <ForgeAus> cor? interesting...
[10:25] <cor> I prefer /etc/network/interfaces, way easier
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. I thought network manager could set static ips
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> !static
[10:25] <cor> if you want static, remove gui rubbish and do it direct. or use wicd
[10:25] <cor> I don't use it, but last time I checked it could not
[10:26] <cor> the best way to setup static IPs is with fixed leases on your gateway. a piece of cake with IPCop/othe Linux gateway
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> My router has settings to rember mac/ip  so i get 'static' ip's bsically :)
[10:26] <ForgeAus> !IP
[10:26] <cor> same thing, yup
[10:26] <ForgeAus> !network
[10:27] <apparle> Actually I think network manager can set it up but as we all know the current GUI is buggy...........................it may be a bug
[10:27] <ForgeAus> lol wireless... hmm... what about non-wireless? lol
[10:27] <cor> !ethernet
[10:27] <cor> heh
[10:27] <apparle> cor: now it seems you yourself have to tell me
[10:27] <cor> seriously, most network configurations can be done with a single line in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:28] <ForgeAus> cor, possibly but one needs to know what they're doing in there don't they?
[10:28] <cor> in konqueror>> man:interfaces
[10:28] <ForgeAus> :) that sounds helpful :)... at least
[10:29] <cor> it's all there
[10:29] <apparle> ok
[10:29] <apparle> I'll restart into kubuntu and then try
[10:29] <cor> all the network managers do, is configure that file, and then do ifup -a
[10:30] <cor> and /etc/resolv.conf, of course
[10:30] <apparle> !pastebin
[10:32] <apparle> exactly speaking...........I got this image from the college server for network conifguration....... http://imagebin.org/61678 now I want to configure linux
[10:33] <cor> easy
[10:33] <apparle> cor: tell me then
[10:33] <cor> did you remove the network-manager?
[10:35] <apparle> no
[10:35] <cor> then any changes you make will be obliterated
[10:35] <cor> by the network manager
[10:36] <apparle> then what should I do
[10:36] <apparle> should I purge it?
[10:37] <cor> simple remove is fine for now
[10:37] <cor> then simply enter a line for your ethernet connexion, and add a line for each parameter you wish to set
[10:37] <cor> auto eth0
[10:38] <apparle> cor: tell me the exact name of package
[10:38] <cor> no
[10:39] <apparle> cor: which packge should I remove then
[10:39] <cor> whatever it's called that is the network manager, maybe knetwork-manager, dunno
[10:40] <apparle> cor: Ok I'll search it
[10:40] <cor> only take a second in synaptic or similar, ceariainly longer than to type a sentence here
[10:40] <cor> *certainly
[10:40] <apparle> next tell me what lines to add in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:41] <cor> address 10.200.52.100
[10:41] <cor> etc.
[10:41] <cor> see the man page for the rest
[10:41] <apparle> cor: Can't search now as I am on windows...........net did not start on linux :)
[10:41] <cor> i see
[10:42] <cor> can you get to the linux file system from there?
[10:42] <apparle> cor: no. anyways no problem I'll search later
[10:42] <ForgeAus> ext2ifs or e2fsd ....
[10:43] <cor> "knetworkmanager"
[10:43] <ForgeAus> apparle you can install one of those to do it
[10:43] <cor> the underlying package is "networkmanager"
[10:43] <ForgeAus> read/write your linux disk from in windows (XP at least, probabaly Bista too but I don't know)
[10:43] <cor> can they handle ext4 yet?
[10:43] <ForgeAus> grr Vista.. if I can type it right (still shudders when saying that word...)
[10:44] <cor> I liked it better when you mispelled it
[10:44] <ForgeAus> ext4? uh I don't know, doubt it, but I could be wrong
[10:44] <apparle> ok..........................but I don't want windows to read my linux files
[10:44] <ForgeAus> apparle fair enuff
[10:44] <cor> apparle, it's easy enough to bring up the interface manually from the shell, if you know what you are doing. see the ifup man page
[10:45] <cor> and ifconfig
[10:45] <apparle> cor: after removing the network manager I have to add http://paste.ubuntu.com/261870/ to the interfaces file and then what should I do?
[10:45] <cor> you got the gateway address wrong
[10:45] <ForgeAus> slax6 (linux) in hawkPE boot disk shows a console window with services, etc info I think its same stuff you normally get in tty console...
[10:46] <ForgeAus> (only with a scrollbar, etc)...
[10:46] <ForgeAus> but I aren't running it to find out what the command is right now lol...
[10:46] <ForgeAus> I think its just a shell command given to a konsole window...
[10:46] <apparle> cor: typed wrong by mistake...............I'll correct it.............what next
[10:47] <cor> the gparted boot sidk is handy for all sorts of manouveres like this
[10:47] <cor> apparle, that, and ensure /etc/resolv.conf has some valid entry in it
[10:47] <cor> nameserver <IP HERE>
[10:48] <cor> ifup should setup your routing automatically, and you just forget about it from that point
[10:48] <apparle> cor: which Ipaddress should I put in resolve.conf.............10.200.52
[10:49] <apparle> .100
[10:49] <cor> try the gateway IP
[10:50] <apparle> ok..............I have to put the 'nameserver 10.200.1.1' in resolv.conf and then
[10:50] <apparle> after that it will automatically configure it??
[10:50] <cor> yup
[10:51] <cor> you have a "lo" entry in interfaces, too, yeah?
[10:51] <apparle> I dunno
[10:51] <cor> auto lo
[10:51] <cor>     iface lo inet loopback
[10:51] <cor> put that one first.
[10:51] <cor> the listed interfaces are brought up in order, see
[10:52] <apparle> this should be there first right?
[10:52] <apparle> auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
[10:52] <apparle> obviously with line feed
[10:55] <apparle> cor thanks....................................and what should I do to remove all this if ever required
[10:56] <cor> install networkmanager
[10:56] <apparle> cor: ah...........yes .............thanks :)
[10:56] <cor> and no, the lo lines are exactly as I pasted, no other details
[10:56] <cor> two lines only
[10:57] <apparle> ok two lines only
[10:57] <apparle> thanks for your patient response.
[10:57] <cor> np
[10:57] <cor> I'm avoiding a shell script
[10:57] <apparle> ya
[10:57] <apparle> thanks
[10:58] <apparle> I have heard that the network manager has improved a lot in KDE4.3/karmic
[10:58] <cor> I didn't notice that in my recent tests
[10:59] <cor> I setup karmic on a m8s laptop a couple of weeks back, and after a half hour struggling with his wifi, removed it. instant success.
[10:59] <cor> removed network manager, that is.
[11:01] <linuxevolution> hi all, kernel 2.6.31-5-generic have support videcard GeForce 2 MX440 or not???
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> The nvidia drivers support that card I do belive.. but its an old card...
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> check the !nvidia docs to see what version drivers are supportred for what cards.
[11:10] <linuxevolution> Dr_Willis: thank you.
[11:12] <apparle> Dr_Willis: is 9.10 coming with GRUB 2.0 ??
[11:13] <nidal> Hi all, I am using kubuntu Jaunty on a Thinkpad T61. After upgrading the RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB, I installed PAE kernel version from latest kubuntu repositories and it showed FULL 4 GB RAM in free command. But then I formatted and installed 64bit version of Jaunty . But now it shows only 3830 MB of memory. Where is the 266 memory vanished ? Please suggest
[11:14] <apparle> nidal: do you have a shared graphics controller integrated on your motherboard
[11:15] <nidal> Thanks apparle, even I was suspecting that, but why was it showing full 4 GB with PAE kernel then ?
[11:15] <nidal> how do I confirm this ?
[11:16] <apparle> nidal: I dunno.........
[11:18] <test_> .
[11:18] <nidal> apparle, where do I check the shared graphic controller memory value ?
[11:18] <nidal> its an NVIDIA one
[11:18] <apparle> nidal: I am a new person in linux.........I don't know
[11:18] <nidal> no problem  ; thanks for the interest
[12:16] <tharibo> hi
[12:17] <tharibo> newbie question:
[12:17] <tharibo> I'm trying to update to KDE 4.3 by kdesudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:18] <tharibo> but it stops after displaying the necessary disk space
[12:18] <tharibo> any hint?
[12:19] <cor> clear some space?
[12:19] <tharibo> there is enough
[12:19] <tharibo> the problem is that the command doesn't stop (no going back to prompt)
[12:19] <tharibo> but it doesn't do anything
[12:46] <mamasue> #kubundu.de
[12:48] <zebaztian> what was the command to open the sources.list file?
[12:48] <zebaztian> kdesu kate?
[12:48] <zebaztian> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:48] <zebaztian> i want to install kde 4.3
[12:49] <mamasue> Wie kann ich mich in kubundu.de einloggen?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[12:57] <ForgeAus> 4.3 doesn't backport to intrepid?
[13:20] <apparle> cor: I am not able to connect
[13:20] <apparle> after I did as you said
[13:20] <apparle> I was able to ping the gateway but not the main server I want to connect to
[13:23] <cor> the dns entries in your image are blank. why?
[13:37] <Dicker> schreibt da einer deutsch
[13:59] <[-Haza-]> Is there a key combination to duplicate a line in Kate ?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:44] <kaddi> hi, I'm sorry to say that I have intel graphics card and my pc has become more or less useless again :/
[14:45] <kaddi> I have a dualcore with 2.5Ghz and 4 Gb of RAM, but as soon as plasma is running both cores are used a 100% and opening a browser gives you the time to brew AND drink your coffee
[14:45] <kaddi> I'm already using the 2.6.30 kernel and the xorg from ppa and nothing seems to help
[14:46] <kaddi> anything else I can try?
[14:46] <kaddi> I need the PC to work ...
[14:47] <kaddi> (it's 32bit so strictly speaking I only have 3Gb of RAM.. but it should still be sufficient to run kubuntu.. )
[14:52] <BluesKaj> kaddi, 3g is lots , I run just fine with 2g
[15:31] <twolf_> 1
[15:31] <twolf_> hello
[15:32] <twolf_> is ther any one here ?
[15:32] <[-Haza-]> twolf_: Silly question really :)
[15:32] <twolf_> ?
[15:33] <[-Haza-]> twolf_: There is 254 people here
[15:33] <[-Haza-]> *are
[15:33] <twolf_> ??
[15:33] <twolf_> yes
[15:34] <twolf_> are ther any one her :)
[15:34] <linuxlinks> and the vast majority are having 40 winks
[15:34]  * [-Haza-] gives twolf_ a funny look
[15:34] <kaddi> what does that mean?
[15:34] <kaddi> @linuxlinks
[15:34] <[-Haza-]> Can i have some of whatever it is you're smoking please?
[15:34] <lebu> help me for..... net connection
[15:34] <lebu> hellp
[15:34] <lebu> kubuntu 8.10
[15:35] <lebu> wht is the cmd?
[15:35] <twolf_> heu
[15:35] <[-Haza-]> Anyway, i'll get the ball rolling.
[15:35] <kaddi> twolf_: if you have  a question or need help with something. state your problem (on one line) and if we know the answer we'll help
[15:35] <twolf_> is ms_dos
[15:35] <[-Haza-]> Can i add a custom button to the dolphin toolbar (under configure toolbars - dolphin). I want to be able to create a new Open Office document
[15:35] <[-Haza-]> Hows that? :)
[15:35] <[-Haza-]> What i need really is a launch button i can add and customize
[15:36] <kaddi> there's a toolbar in dolphin? :p
[15:36] <[-Haza-]> kaddi: There is indeed
[15:37] <twolf_> some one know how can i play quak 4 under ubuntu? :)
[15:38] <twolf_> because i played it on XBOX360 and that's looked great
[15:39] <mUrshEd> help me for UBUNTU
[15:39] <mUrshEd> hello
[15:39] <mUrshEd> kubuntu
[15:39] <mUrshEd> hello any1 KUBUNTURU
[15:39] <kaddi> twolf_: maybe look at this guide:
[15:39] <kaddi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/Quake4
[15:40] <twolf_> thanks ;)
[15:40] <kaddi> !ask | mUrshEd
[15:40] <mUrshEd> i want help for NET connection 8.10
[15:40] <mUrshEd> kaddi
[15:40] <[-Haza-]> Damn... you get this alot then? The whole asking if you can ask :)
[15:40] <kaddi> what kind of net? wireless? wired? what networkmanager are you using?
[15:40] <mUrshEd> kaddi i push my IP eth0
[15:40] <mUrshEd> my IP
[15:40] <mUrshEd> 192.168.54.15
[15:40] <FloodBotK1> mUrshEd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <sam__> hello
[15:40] <mUrshEd> FloodBotK1 sorry dear
[15:40] <mUrshEd> sam__ hi
[15:41] <kaddi> mUrshEd: are you using a networkmanager?
[15:41] <mUrshEd> i'm try to always fast typing. its not flood :( FloodBotK1
[15:41] <mUrshEd> maybe
[15:41] <mUrshEd> already i poot my IP and DNS
[15:41] <mUrshEd> gatway
[15:41] <kaddi> ok, go to your start-menu go to internet, click on knetworkmanager
[15:41] <mUrshEd> everything
[15:42] <kaddi> that is a networkmanager, set up your connection in it. does that work?
[15:42] <mUrshEd> i want to need COMMAND
[15:42] <mUrshEd> no its not waork
[15:42] <mUrshEd> already i do it my bro
[15:42] <mUrshEd> i'm new KDE
[15:42] <kaddi> mUrshEd: maybe try sudo dhclient -r eth0 followed by sudo dhclient eth0
[15:42] <mUrshEd> but i knw DEBIAN :) ubuntu , linuxmint,
[15:42] <kaddi> well on the commandline ubuntu and kubuntu are the same
[15:43] <kaddi> except if you use specific kde/gnome programs
[15:44] <mUrshEd> recently i like KDE....
[15:44] <mUrshEd> also i like SLAX :D
[15:44] <mUrshEd> its good.. but very quit little OS :)
[15:44] <Cuppa> is there a way of renaming an app so its shorter to type in the terminal?
[15:45] <kaddi> you can set alias in your bashrc
[15:45] <mUrshEd> kaddi i try ur CMD. thanks for HELP.
[15:45] <mUrshEd> love u
[15:45] <Cuppa> cheers
[15:46] <kaddi> Cuppa: that's one of the default alias I use: alias la='ls --color=auto -lahF' but you should have them in your bashrc, just need to remove the #.. it should give you the idea for the syntax ;)
[15:47] <Cuppa> ahh good one
[15:47] <Cuppa> it was a problem I couldn't think of a way of googling haha
[15:48] <kaddi> indeed... but you get so used to it, you have to edit bashrc on every system you touch, because otherwise you keep getting "ll command not found", "la: command not found" and so on :p
[15:48] <mUrshEd> kaddi : its not work
[15:49] <Cuppa> I do love terminal nowadays though :)
[15:49] <kaddi> mUrshEd: type ifconfig into your konsole, is eth0 present and does the mac adress match the one from your ethernet adapter?
[15:50] <kaddi> Cuppa: terminal is great! :) Especially if you only have a really messed up touchpad on your machine :p
[15:50] <mUrshEd> ok.. thanks.. try now
[15:51] <kaddi> mUrshEd: are you using a modem or are you connecting to a router?
[15:52] <mUrshEd> well
[15:52] <mUrshEd> i tell u my all IP
[15:53] <mUrshEd> 192.168.54.1   255.255.255.0 192.168.54.1  116.193.170.5 203.112.194.243 thats it
[15:53] <mUrshEd> kaddi
[15:53] <kaddi> mUrshEd: here's a guide, that might helpt: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[15:53] <margarita> hi
[15:54] <mUrshEd> margarita hii
[15:54] <mUrshEd> I'm Away. Reason: Idle Timed Out [900s].  [mUrshEd Auto Away System]
[15:54] <mUrshEd> hello
[15:54] <margarita> hello
[15:54] <mUrshEd> I'm Back From Away. Reason was: Idle Timed Out [900s].  [mUrshEd Auto Away System]. 00:00:15 
[15:54] <margarita> im new at this ubuntu thing..
[15:54] <mUrshEd> welcome to UBUNTU world :) margarita
[15:54] <margarita> thx :)
[15:55] <kaddi> gotta run :)
[15:55] <kaddi> have a nice afternoon
[15:56] <mUrshEd> after 2 years i kik WINDOS :).. its disgusting
[15:56] <mUrshEd> kaddi bro
[15:59] <mUrshEd> ohh
[15:59] <mUrshEd> sad
[15:59] <mUrshEd> its not work...
[15:59] <ZuzOnline> anyone know how I can set my usb headset to work with kubuntu?
[15:59] <mUrshEd> sorry for disturb
[15:59] <ZuzOnline> aparently its not plug and play
[16:00] <mUrshEd> bye
[16:02] <ZuzOnline> nevermind, google told me just fine  ;P
[16:07] <ZuzOnline> where is amarok located in kubuntu?
[16:10] <Mamarok> ZuzOnline: in multimedia, and on the favorites menu
[16:11] <ZuzOnline> to set as open with, aparently i made mplayer my default app
[16:12] <ZuzOnline> hmmm its not even playing
[16:14] <cor> I notice Totem now has a BBC plugin
[16:14] <ZuzOnline> a restart fixed
[16:27] <rubyist> can someone share their sources.list for me?
[16:28] <rubyist> changed to karmic, screwed up flash..
[16:28] <rubyist> like to install the plugin from kubuntu
[16:34] <rav> hello. i'm trying to share a folder over a LAN, but it is not working
[16:35] <rav> i use the sharing tab on the properties of the folder, but there is nothing there
[16:37] <Dragnslcr> rubyist- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/262027/
[16:37] <rubyist> Dragnslcr: thx
[16:40] <rubyist> Dragnslcr: damn
[16:40] <rubyist> Dragnslcr: i installed flashplugin-nonfree, but doesnt work for FF
[16:41] <apparle> hello
[16:42] <rav> does anyone know how to share a folder over samba?
[16:42] <apparle> I uninstalled the network manager to configure static Ip. Now I have the connetion working but I am not able to see the tray icon or widget. Is there anyway to see this?
[16:44] <rubyist> ok, flashplugin-installer installs npwrapper.libflashplugin.so but its broke
[16:44] <rubyist> videos dont play, or i cant interact with the videos at all
[16:44] <rubyist> grr
[16:45] <rav> apparle: you need network manager to have the widget, AFAIK
[16:46] <Xnet0> Hey, Im looking for a good VOIP communication program so I can chat with friends. I would like to have a channel and server specification controls, so I am able to talk to randoms like in a chat room. Any ideas??
[16:50] <apparle> cor: are you here??
[16:52] <martalli> How can I turn off my trackpad in 4.3 if I have a mouse plugged in?
[16:54] <rav> on system settings > file sharing, i don't have any option to input the workgroup of the LAN. is this right?
[16:54] <cor> yo
[16:54] <kblin> hi folks
[16:55] <kblin> does it make sense to go from 8.04 to 9.04 via upgrades, or is a fresh install the better way to go?
[16:56] <apparle> cor: I have configured static ip and net is working but now there is no icon to show whether I am connected or not.
[16:56] <cor> you are
[16:56] <martalli> kblin - With a fresh install you will of course have to reinstall all your files, but I think if you are planning to skip a release or two, it is probably less hassle to rinstall
[16:57] <apparle> cor: what do you mean 'you are'
[16:57] <cor> kblin, if your home folder and such is on separate volumes, and you keep backup of any system changes you made, a clean install is best.
[16:57] <cor> YOU ARE CONNECTED
[16:57] <cor> do you need an icon to let you know something which is obvious?
[16:58] <will_> Does anyone know what software i could use to rip a DvD into an ISO?
[16:58] <cor> another icon for "computer is running"
[16:58] <cor> another for "MOUSE OPERATING - AWAITING MOVEMENT!"
[16:58] <cor> in bold letters, wide
[16:58] <apparle> cor: But many times the server is down, its not always working.
[16:58] <apparle> cor: :)
[16:58] <rav> will_: k3b
[16:59] <cor> hmm.. and how do you know this?
[16:59] <will_> So k3b does work for it?
[16:59] <apparle> cor: yes
[16:59] <cor> will_ dd will do it
[16:59] <rav> will_: yes
[16:59] <cor> apparle, HOW do you KNOW?
[16:59] <kblin> cor: I'm still rsyncing off /home (it's on a separate partition, but better safe than sorry), I'll go backup /etc next, thanks for the hint :)
[17:00] <rubyist> wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[17:00] <rubyist> i get this trying to play flash
[17:00] <cor> and any changes in /usr/local ;o)
[17:00] <rubyist> any ideas....?
[17:00] <apparle> cor: Earlier experience when the server didnot require static ip
[17:00] <kblin> martalli: yeah, I chickened out and skipped 8.10, kde4 didn't look ready
[17:00] <apparle> cor: its a college server in hostel
[17:00] <cor> yes, but apparle you are missing my point. if the server goes down, how will you know this?
[17:01] <apparle> cor: Usually I used to get 'eth0 failed to connect' but I don't know now
[17:01] <cor> where do you get that???
[17:01] <kblin> cor: hm, nothing I'd mind losing there.. most important thing in there is the /usr/local/bin/gcc link to /usr/bin/ccache
[17:02] <apparle> cor: A message from network manager which I removed
[17:02] <cor> don't forget any /var/spool/cron mail/etc
[17:02] <cor> apparle, but aside from the annoying icon, how would you actually know?
[17:02] <cor> because the net wouldn't work, right?
[17:03] <apparle> cor: :)
[17:03] <cor> so there's your notification! if the net works, the server is up!
[17:03] <cor> if not, it's down. no icon required.
[17:04] <cor> your won side of the ethernet, from now on, will NEVER be the source of the issues, unless you mess with it
[17:04] <cor> *own
[17:04] <apparle> cor: I am behind a proxy server......and proxy address gets changed sometimes......so net does not work......but eth0 is connected meaning the server is up but proxy server is diffrent
[17:14] <will_> What was the default video player from KDE HArdy Heron?
[17:15] <will_> Nvm, i found it.
[17:15] <will_> Does Kaffeine let me pause a video and take a screen capture?
[17:36] <Luckypampy> #windel
[17:37] <Luckypampy> j
[17:51] <luiferares> hola, alguien q pueda darme una mano configurando kubuntu
[17:52] <tigga> hey how can I install the lexmark x5470 driver on kubuntu?
[17:52] <tigga> the only driver I found was the 5000 one
[17:53] <tigga> I heard that the x5270 works but i couldnt get it to work
[17:53] <tigga> well not get it but i couldnt find it
[17:56] <vlt> Oh noes, I just switched from Kubuntu 8.04 LTS to 9.04 with KDE4. Where's amarok's media player support gone? I can't connect my Ipod. Any additional pkg necessary?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> vlt did you do a clean install of 9.04 or an upgrade ?
[18:00] <frustrated> is there a compatible driver for the lexmark x5470 printer?
[18:04] <vlt> BluesKaj: Clean debootstrap.
[18:09] <BluesKaj> frustrated, wife has the same printer on her windows pc , and i tried to use it as a network printer connecting to my klinuxbox , but so far i haven't found a driver . lexmark doesn't give much linux support if any . :(
[18:10] <frustrated> aww ok
[18:10] <frustrated> thnx for the update
[18:12] <BluesKaj> vlt , amarok is known to be iffy in it's new version , that's why i switched to vlc
[18:13] <vlt> BluesKaj: To manage tracks on your media player?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> well, vlt , i'm not much into managing tracks etc , I just choose the tracks from the Music file and load them into the vlc playlist
[18:36] <dennister> wtf? now we can't watch youtube videos because of copyright laws in canada? anyone know a good proxy server that doesn't slow things down and make it seem as if we're in germany or something like that? giving german hits to searches?
[18:36] <dennister> i think i tried tor previously...everything was soooooo sloooowwwww
[18:37] <dverweire> does youtube.ca work?
[18:39] <dennister> dverweire: ok, youtube.com does...i
[18:40] <dennister> I'd gone to a blog, which had the youtube video, and tried to watch it there like i'd done previously, and got the nasty message
[18:41] <dverweire> oh... but if you go to youtube directly, it works?
[18:42] <dennister> whew! what with the copyright battle here, and no new law yet, I'd wondered if youtube had caved...yes, when i searched on the actual video title on youtube.com, it did work without the copyright in your country message
[18:42] <rabby> hi
[18:42] <rabby> how to set a process to stop after 10 sec?
[18:43] <dverweire> dennister: potiltics and copyright... sigh. at least you got to see the video you wanted!
[18:43] <dverweire> rabby: what process?
[18:43] <rabby> i start e.g. nano and want it to terminate 10 sec later.
[18:43] <rabby> nano|count-down 10 or so ;-)
[18:45] <dverweire> rabby: nano & pid=$$; sleep 10; kill $pid;
[18:46] <dverweire> rabby: unfortunately, that doesn't allow you to interact with nano
[18:47] <rabby> dverweire: i will test this. nano was only a example...
[18:49] <rabby> it does not terminate. it still runs :-(
[18:49] <dverweire> sorry, i think it should actually be $!
[18:49] <dverweire> $! is the pid of the last process run in background
[18:50] <rabby> dverweire: it works with nano and pid=$$
[18:50] <rabby> i will try to find a better example where it does _not_ work :-(
[18:52] <dverweire> anyone know how to hide the irc join/leave messages? i'm using konversation.
[18:52] <cor> isn't there a #konversation channel?
[18:52] <dverweire> cor: there may be! let me try!
[18:58] <BluesKaj> cor, yes
[19:01] <cor> I would have thought their IRC client would auto-launch right into there
[19:03] <dennister> dverweire: yes, I got to see it on youtube, but for some reason the same video that I'd downloaded to my hard drive won't play on any of my video players anymore, not vlc, not mplayer, nothing...and it was a flv file
[19:03] <dverweire> cor: yes, the #konversation that you wrote in your message is a clickable link that takes me right to that channel.
[19:05] <cor> aren't I unwittingly clever!
[19:05] <cor> or maybe konversation is actually not crap after all
[19:05] <cor> my test versions were too early I think. At the time I just wanted a client that worked.
[19:06] <dverweire> lol.  well... konverstaion version 1.2-alpha4 is working well enough for me. :)
[19:06] <cor> I liked it, but it kept doing weird stuff
[19:07] <cor> I know Xchat from Mac OSX days, and it's still around. works great.
[19:07] <cor> I'm past needing anything more than basic chatting
[19:09] <dverweire> that's all i need. i don't understand enough about irc to do much more.
[19:10] <mrpiccino> salve
[19:20] <rubyist> hey
[19:21] <BluesKaj> ho
[19:22] <one4all> do i need a dual screen video card? or can i use two different cards to get dual video?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> lots of single cards support dual heads
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !dualhead
[19:23] <one4all> BluesKaj: does the card have to support it?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:24] <rubyist> im having some trouble with flash - sound is only played as root
[19:24] <rubyist> permissions look OK, so im really at a loss
[19:24] <rubyist> i can play sound as my user outside of FF.
[19:24] <rubyist> any ideas
[19:24] <BluesKaj> rubyist, 64bit?
[19:24] <rubyist> ye 64bit
[19:24] <rubyist> and using 64-bit flash plugin
[19:25] <BluesKaj> !flash
[19:25] <rubyist> (without nswrapper)
[19:25] <rubyist> ugh thats really not useful.
[19:25] <rubyist> the flash plugin in the repo is broke.
[19:25] <rubyist> (at least for 64-bit)
[19:26] <BluesKaj> I thought those flash probs were already solved with 64 bit plugins
[19:26] <rubyist> not for me
[19:26] <rubyist> I get repeated errors.
[19:27] <rubyist> (ELF Class wrong : ELF64CLASS)
[19:27] <rubyist> or similar.
[19:27] <cor> weird. it's been flawless here.
[19:27] <rubyist> so, installing 64-bit plugin manually worked, but there is no sound(although it fixes lots of problems with the 32-bit plugin)
[19:28] <cor> admittedly, I don't visit many flash sites
[19:28] <rubyist> now, i can only hear sound as root, and obviously don't want to use FF as root.
[19:29] <rubyist> the 32-bit plugin "worked"(sort of), but you couldn't interact with the video in anyway(no play/pause, can't track the video(forward/back))
[19:29] <geopol> qvc, the command is "w" in terminal of course
[19:29] <cor> google returned 4,280 hits for "firefox as root"
[19:29] <cor> crazy
[19:29] <rubyist> i've been there cor.
[19:29] <rubyist> thats why im here.
[19:29] <cor> lol
[19:30] <cor> I had to know if anyone was that mad
[19:30] <cor> OMG! My torrent queue is empty!!!!!!!!
[19:30] <rubyist> well it seems logical to check if sound works as root, if it doesn't for other users
[19:30] <rubyist> to narrow it down to possibly a permissions problem
[19:31] <rubyist> but it doesn't seem to be.
[19:31] <cor> sure, it just seems such a crazy notion.. web browser as root
[19:31] <rubyist> right
[19:31] <rubyist> which is why im looking for a fix =P
[19:31] <cor> damn str8
[19:32] <BluesKaj> rubyist, is this the plugin you are using ? http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[19:32] <rubyist> BluesKaj: yup
[19:35] <BluesKaj> rubyist, you mentioned the repos was broken, maybe this will help : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[19:37] <rubyist> BluesKaj: ill try
[19:39] <cor> I got mine from Adobe, works great
[19:40] <BluesKaj> cor, 64 bit?
[19:40] <cor> yay
[19:44] <rubyist> BluesKaj: no good
[19:44] <rubyist> that script wasn't written very well, it basically errored itself out
[19:44] <rubyist> so.. youtube as root :/
[19:45] <slow-motion> hi
[19:48] <BluesKaj> rubyist, strange that you can't change permissions
[19:48] <rubyist> I can.
[19:49] <rubyist> they're all set properly afaik
[19:49] <rubyist> I'm in the audio group.
[19:49] <BluesKaj> did you group yourself before or after installation ?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> of the plugin
[19:50] <rubyist> I was in the audio group since installation
[19:50] <rubyist> or maybe not, but since a long time ago
[19:51] <BluesKaj> maybe you should re-include yourself in the group
[19:52] <BluesKaj> I've heard that group recognition doesn't always work
[20:06] <schmidt_> anybody know how pulseaudio works?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> schmidtm, it depends it works on some setups and others not, or not so well
[20:16] <BluesKaj> if you have a pci sound card , pulseaudio will prolly be set to second or third default since the latest kernel audio modules seem to link with the card thru the alsa driver more directly bypassing the pulseaudio sound server
[20:17] <BluesKaj> schmidtm, this is the way I understand audio setup atm
[20:19] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[20:40]  * redopz im such a noob :'(
[20:40] <wishbone> how do I disable the touchpad click in kubuntu?
[20:43] <jonathan__> k
[20:48] <Daro> hi...I am using kubuntu 9.04 and oulseaudio on a zeto laptop.....i would like to get my internal mic to work, but in my alsamixer I can't change a capture device...my headset works fine..any ideas?
[20:48] <Daro> it shpuld be pulseaudio
[21:09] <zaxaz> is there away to add more repositories to apt ?
[21:10] <zaxaz> i mean adept
[21:12] <Dragnslcr> zaxaz- pretty sure Adept has a dialog for adding repositories, but I haven't used it in a while
[21:13] <Dragnslcr> zaxaz- worst case, you can add the repositories to the sources file manually
[21:13] <cor_walkies> /etc/apt/sources.list bbiab
[21:19] <BluesKaj> zaxaz, have you ever edited your sources.list text ?
[21:22] <scoopex> where can i get current kde4.3 package for kubuntu? the apt-source listed on the kubuntu website does not contain 4.3 packages anymore....
[21:31] <scoopex> hmmmm...
[21:33] <EagleScreen> scoopex: they are preparing 4.3.1 right now
[21:34] <BluesKaj> scoopex, read the motd , http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/
[21:34] <EagleScreen> scoopex: you can use this repository by the moment:
[21:34] <EagleScreen> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main
[21:37] <scoopex> EagleScreen: ah ok - cool....so it will be available on the announced package source tomorrow ?
[21:38] <EagleScreen> may be
[21:38] <scoopex> breaking package sources is not so cool :-)
[21:38] <scoopex> thanks for helping :-)
[21:48] <kblin> hm, I just noticed that I don't seem to be able to access an encrypted LVM volume during the install. can I set that up without having to nuke the whole lvm somehow?
[22:00] <mime> hi all
[22:00] <mime> is someone reading me?
[22:02] <mime> hello???
[22:02] <EagleScreen> !ask | mime
[22:05] <mime> ok, thnx. my problem appeared in an HDD USB after removing it unsafely, and that error appears ''org.freedesktop.hal.device.volume.unknownfilesystemtype: unknown file system 'ntfs-3g'', and redirects me to home when trying to open
[22:05] <mime> thnx
[22:06] <mime> !ask
[22:06] <EagleScreen> you may need to pass a filesystem check to it
[22:07] <Walzmyn> whoa, the quassel update has changed all the colors
[22:07] <mime> how? in the false msdos pressing f?
[22:08] <EagleScreen> mime: is that USB NTFS or FAT32?
[22:08] <mime> not sure
[22:09] <mime> most probably nfts
[22:09] <EagleScreen> yeah, by the message
[22:09] <EagleScreen> lets try to mount it with ntfs-3g driver
[22:10] <EagleScreen> mime do you know what name has it got? like sdb1, sdc1 etc
[22:10] <mime> maybe sdb5
[22:10] <mime> but not sure, is like it does not exist
[22:11] <mime> I installed the driver following forums, but not result, maybe did it wrong
[22:11] <EagleScreen> mime: paste text in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:11] <EagleScreen> how, which driver?
[22:11] <mime> the ntfs-3g
[22:11] <EagleScreen> mime: what is your Kubuntu version?
[22:11] <mime> 9.04
[22:12] <EagleScreen> then it is already installed by default
[22:12] <mime> ok....... :P but my problem apperas
[22:12] <EagleScreen> if plugged, unplug and plug it afain and pastebin the output of dmesg | tail command
[22:12] <mime> maybe is a fstab config problem
[22:13] <EagleScreen> you do not need fstab config in 9.04
[22:13] <mime> ok
[22:13] <EagleScreen> paste "dmesg | tail" output
[22:13] <kblin> yay
[22:14] <mime> i did it?
[22:15] <EagleScreen> pastebin it in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:15] <mime> it says i post it
[22:16] <kblin> I managed to blow my system trying to access my encrypted lvm during a new install
[22:16] <kblin> fancy
[22:17] <EagleScreen> mime then, paste here the URL
[22:17] <cor> I find it's better to setup a raid tower in your loft rigged with C4
[22:17] <mime> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/262159/
[22:17] <cor> than encrypted LVM
[22:18] <mime> now, i forget to plug it
[22:18] <kblin> cor: not for a laptop
[22:18] <cor> why not? use netwurkin
[22:18] <kblin> right, when I'm on a plane, train, wherever
[22:18] <kblin> smart idea
[22:18] <cor> encrypt real volumes, and deny physical access
[22:18] <cor> there's this thing called the internet, dude
[22:18] <EagleScreen> as you can see, mime, the disk is sdb and its unique partition is sdb1
[22:19] <cor> it's really cool!
[22:19] <kblin> cor: that's rubbish and you know it
[22:19] <mime> ok, i thoght sdb1 was the internal hdd
[22:19] <mime> :P
[22:19] <JWokky> cor: Personally, I refuse to ever use the internet.
[22:19] <cor> I can drop pics into my "images" folder here at home from anywhere. any where
[22:19] <kblin> the reason to encrypt laptop hard drives is to avoid having to revoke a heck of a lot of keys when the laptop is stolen/lost
[22:19] <EagleScreen> mime try to run this command: 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[22:19] <cor> except underwater, cuz the wifi craps out
[22:19] <mime> perfect, one moment
[22:20] <kblin> and I'm sure you can't do that when you're abroad on a high speed train
[22:20] <cor> well, possibly, maybe there are other places. I admit
[22:20] <slow-motion> n8
[22:21] <kblin> at least I don't have the money to pay roaming fees for mobile internet
[22:21] <mime> nothing happens'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[22:21] <kblin> and then there's this whole "laptop being stolen" thing
[22:21] <cor> my point is, there are usually more direct solutions to our problems. raid in the loft is actually great security.
[22:21] <phh> kblin: the fastest commercial train does have wifi onboard.
[22:21] <cor> -t ntfs should be enough
[22:22] <cor> or did I install some ntfs extras? hmm
[22:22] <kblin> phh: yeah. most planes I fly with don't
[22:22] <phh> stop using cheapest companies
[22:22] <EagleScreen> mime: now run: 'ls -l /mnt' and watch if the content is the content of the disk, (you also can see it in Dolphin)
[22:22] <cor> exactly!
[22:22] <mime> i try it in sudo bash, and says dont recognize the file sistem archives ''ntfs-3g''
[22:22] <kblin> phh: give me the money for it
[22:23] <phh> err
[22:23] <phh> wait a century or two.
[22:23] <kblin> phh: because otherwise your comment is pretty useless
[22:23] <cor> I'm lazy. I mount stuff in dolhin, and then look at /etc/mtab
[22:23] <kblin> yeah right
[22:24] <EagleScreen> mime: you may have broken your ntfs-3g installation, lets fully reinstall it now
[22:24] <mime> ok
[22:24] <mime> because no content i can read
[22:24] <massimo> ciao
[22:25] <mime> root@mime:~# sudo apt-get install ntfsprogsls -l /mnt
[22:25] <massimo> italiano?
[22:25] <mime> ??¿¿?
[22:25] <EagleScreen> mime run: 'sudo aptitude purge ntfs-3g' and later 'sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop ntfs-3g'
[22:25] <mime> perfect , so thank
[22:25] <EagleScreen> !it | massimo
[22:26] <mime> that sounds good
[22:26] <EagleScreen> mime: installing?
[22:27] <mime> eagle... install it and SOLVE IT. so many thanks
[22:27] <EagleScreen> ah okay, I understand that you can now mount it with Dolphin
[22:28] <massimo> grazie!
[22:28] <massimo> ok
[22:28] <mime> its a pleasure contacting with humans like u, so many thank, i will send u good thoughts, that was the kind of info i was searching for :) THANK YOU
[22:28] <mime> now it works, also see the ''play buton'' for mount/unmount
[22:28] <mime>  :))))))))))
[22:28] <cor> it's a pity ntfsfix, doesn't.
[22:29] <mime> i dont know why that is so hard to search on web :O
[22:29] <cor> it tells you to boot into Windows. Very helpful when you don't have windows!
[22:29] <mime> SO MANY THNX EAGLE :)
[22:29] <EagleScreen> you're welcome
[22:29] <mime> :))))))))))
[22:30] <mime> as u see im so new in linux
[22:30] <mime> thnx, and bye bye all
[22:31] <mime> :)))))))))
[22:31] <achmed> hello
[22:32] <EagleScreen> hi
[22:32] <achmed> is this forum about ubuntu?
[22:33] <EagleScreen> this is about Kubuntu
[22:33] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE
[22:35] <cor> everything here has a k in front of it
[22:37] <cor> does anyone here wish they could hash (or verify) files from a right-click?
[22:37] <cor> or folders, or whole disks, even
[22:41] <EagleScreen> cor: do u mean show md5sum, for instance?
[22:42] <cor> yes, but from inside dolphin/konq
[22:42] <cor> and with folders and trees taklen care of, and with nice KDE gui notifications
[22:44] <EagleScreen_> that would be great
[22:45] <cor> like this: http://corz.org/windows/software/checksum/ sorta, but for KDE
[22:46] <cor> just finished it. pretty alpha, but works great
[22:51] <Maxniet> hola
[22:51] <Maxniet> alguien sabe español o conoce un canal ubuntu en español??
[22:55] <cor> nah
[23:23] <trakinas> hi all!
[23:23] <trakinas> Im facing some strange problems with Kopete. this is a fresh kubuntu install.
[23:32] <EagleScreen_> trakinas: what network do u use in kopete?
[23:33] <trakinas> EagleScreen_: to be honest, in MSN, not IRC.
[23:33] <EagleScreen_> what is that "strange" problem?
[23:34] <trakinas> EagleScreen_: deadkeyes work in the first tab/window until I open a new one
[23:35] <BluesKaj> trakinas, i don't see an irc option in kopete
[23:35] <trakinas> then the first window only shows 'e ^e and not é ê
[23:36] <EagleScreen_> I rememeber that Kopete has IRc support, BluesKaj
[23:36] <EagleScreen_> trankinas check the kayboard layout in KDE Systemsettings
[23:36] <trakinas> checked.
[23:37] <EagleScreen_> Systemsettings -> Regional and Language checked?
[23:37]  * BluesKaj looks for irc in the add account page , but no irc seems listed
[23:38] <trakinas> everything seems fine. Im installing the portuguese language, though the layout was already correctly set.
[23:38] <EagleScreen_> BluesKaj: how do you do that special message in IRC?
[23:39] <trakinas> and these "é" "ã" work fine here and in kate. the problem seems to be with kopete... but lets wait till the new language is installed
[23:39] <BluesKaj> !kopete
[23:39] <EagleScreen_> trakinas: be sure you have package 'kde-l10n-pt' installed
[23:39] <BluesKaj> aha in kde3 , but not in kde4
[23:40] <EagleScreen_> trakinas: it sounds like a kopete bug, for MSN protocol chant, consider using kmess, and quassel or konversation for IRC
[23:41] <_motti_> hi all. I tried installing diablo 2 and kde went crazy on me. now all I can see is black. I can laounch application using alt+F2. any thoughts?
[23:41] <BluesKaj> !amsn | trakinas
[23:42] <BluesKaj> !info amsn
[23:42] <trakinas> for irc i just typed "irc" on the launch app. Im used to irssi. =P
[23:42] <EagleScreen_> _motti_: try running 'plasma'
[23:43] <trakinas> i will have a look on kmess. nothing against amsn, BluesKaj, but I don't want to use it right now.
[23:43] <trakinas> EagleScreen_: Im using Quassel, right now.
[23:43] <EagleScreen_> trakinas: you have ppa's for kmess
[23:43] <EagleScreen_> https://launchpad.net/~kmess-packages/+archive/kmess-stable
[23:44] <trakinas> I thought about using kopete becuause I also use gtalk a lot.
[23:44] <BluesKaj> trakinas, just a suggestion ...personally I don't particularly care for IM at all :)
[23:44] <trakinas> BluesKaj: thank you, anyway. =]
[23:44] <_motti_> EagleScreen_: here is the output from the terminal : Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[23:45] <EagleScreen_> _motti_: is diablo 2 the famous Windows game?
[23:46] <_motti_> yes
[23:46] <EagleScreen_> running with wine?
[23:46] <_motti_> yes
[23:47] <EagleScreen_> look for help in Wine HQ
[23:56] <ubuntu> just launched Kubuntu live DVD and can not see any sound recorder out of the box? any ideas?
[23:57] <ubuntu> anyone, please?
[23:59] <EagleScreen_> bplay?
[23:59] <ubuntu> EagleScreen: ok,