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| blizzkid | what's the naming convention for different Distributions? I mean I have cwibber-0.1 for karmic, should I use cwibber-0.1-jaunty or another form? | 00:52 |
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| lifeless | if the package is the same just copy the source to the other ppa and it will build | 00:53 |
| blizzkid | lifeless: the package is the same, but in debian/changelog I had karmic, so it only built for karmic | 00:54 |
| wgrant | lifeless: That doesn't work if you want multiple series in the one PPA... | 00:55 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: I normally use X.Y.Z-0ppa1 for karmic, X.Y.Z-0ppa1~jaunty1, etc. | 00:55 |
| lifeless | wgrant: oh | 00:55 |
| lifeless | so when is the multitarget coming active | 00:55 |
| wgrant | It's difficult. | 00:56 |
| wgrant | The semantics of it are very unclear. | 00:56 |
| blizzkid | wgrant: ok I'll try that approach, but will my source.list lines then still be "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mcielen/ppa/ubuntu karmic main" or will they autmotically change? | 00:57 |
| lifeless | ugh, 90% of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30994534/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.subunit_0.0.2%7Ebzr78-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is 'reading database' | 00:57 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Yes. karmic's dpkg sucks like that. | 00:58 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: What do you mean? If you want karmic, that's right. | 00:58 |
| * wgrant thwacks pkg-create-dbgsym a few times. | 00:58 | |
| blizzkid | wgrant: when you look at my ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~mcielen/+archive/ppa it gives you the line I gave, but now when I upload jaunty and intrepid to that ppa, will it change those lines? | 00:59 |
| lifeless | wgrant: have you run into '/usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created `/build/buildd/subunit-0.0.2~bzr78/debian/tmp/usr/bin/subunit2gtk' with `filters/subunit2gtk' | 00:59 |
| lifeless | ' | 00:59 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: It will just add extra options to select jaunty or intrepid. | 01:00 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: The karmic one will not chnage. | 01:00 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I haven't, but I can guess what it means. | 01:00 |
| blizzkid | hmmz, I'll check what it does | 01:01 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: eg. look at https://launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/ppa | 01:01 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I can guess too, but AFAICT it means 'dh7 is borked', so far. | 01:02 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Sounds more like your .install file is contradicting itself. | 01:02 |
| blizzkid | I see you have "select sources.list entries", so I guess these get created? | 01:02 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: Right. There's an option for any series that's active in the PPA. | 01:03 |
| lifeless | wgrant: | 01:03 |
| lifeless | :!ls debian/*install | 01:03 |
| lifeless | debian/python-subunit.install debian/subunit.install | 01:03 |
| lifeless | :!cat debian/*install | 01:03 |
| lifeless | usr/lib/python* | 01:03 |
| lifeless | usr/bin | 01:03 |
| lifeless | wgrant: e.g., 'no'. | 01:03 |
| blizzkid | hmmz, I must still be doing something wrong | 01:03 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: Why? | 01:04 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Intriguing. I've not used dh7 much. | 01:04 |
| wgrant | Yay, PPA debug symbol extraction working. | 01:04 |
| blizzkid | wgrant: I created 3 folders now, cwibber-0.1 cwibber-0.1~intrepid and cwibber-0.1~jaunty | 01:04 |
| blizzkid | content is the same | 01:04 |
| blizzkid | but when I dpkg-buildpackage in jaunty and then in intrepid the second overwrites the first | 01:05 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: The version is controlled by the changelog, not the directory name. | 01:05 |
| blizzkid | wgrant: so instead of cwibber (0.1-1) it should read cwibber (0.1-1~jaunty) ? | 01:06 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: Except that the '-1' bit there is a lie, yes. | 01:07 |
| lifeless | wgrant: upstream breakage | 01:07 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Aren't *you* upstream? | 01:07 |
| lifeless | yes | 01:07 |
| lifeless | I'm allowed to break things too :P | 01:08 |
| blizzkid | wgrant: what do you mean with a lie? should I remove that -1? | 01:08 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: It's not in Debian, so it should be -0. Some people use -0ubuntu1~ppa1, or -0ubuntu1~username1, or -0username1, or -0ppa1, or... | 01:08 |
| blizzkid | oh, I see | 01:08 |
| blizzkid | and can I re-upload my karmic version with just that change? Or do I have to delete my packages first? | 01:09 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: Now, that is awkward. Because you've used 0.1-1, you can never upload anything less than that to karmic. | 01:10 |
| lifeless | blizzkid: do you mean 'karmic official' or 'karmic in my ppa' | 01:10 |
| lifeless | wgrant: question all assumptions. | 01:10 |
| blizzkid | ppa | 01:11 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Indeed. | 01:11 |
| blizzkid | I requested deletion | 01:12 |
| lifeless | wgrant: in the fuckage here. | 01:12 |
| lifeless | it was bzr (again, I'm upstream :P) doing a silent bad merg.e | 01:12 |
| lifeless | so it got duplicated lines | 01:12 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Aha. Lovely. | 01:13 |
| lifeless | subunit2gtk was being installed twice | 01:13 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: That won't help. | 01:13 |
| blizzkid | wgrant: why not? | 01:13 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: Because the version will be remembered. | 01:13 |
| lifeless | when delete doesn't mean delete | 01:13 |
| wgrant | It's delete in an archive context. It deletes it from the on-disk archive. | 01:14 |
| blizzkid | hmmz | 01:15 |
| blizzkid | wgrant: cwibber 0.1-0ppa1 (Accepted) so it worked (that's the changed one for karmic) | 01:16 |
| wgrant | blizzkid: That can't always be relied upon to work. | 01:19 |
| wgrant | But it looks like it has this time. | 01:19 |
| lifeless | \o/ success | 01:19 |
| blizzkid | good enough for me for now ;) | 01:19 |
| blizzkid | yay, there all there now | 01:21 |
| blizzkid | if you guys want to try it out and comment, be my guest :) | 01:22 |
| lifeless | I actually meant my package :P | 01:22 |
| lifeless | wgrant: so you're working on ppas | 01:27 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I am. | 01:27 |
| lifeless | wgrant: are you planning to tackle the 'web page says published, apt-get update says fail' skew? | 01:27 |
| wgrant | lifeless: There shouldn't be more than a few seconds of that (except in primary/partner) | 01:28 |
| lifeless | wgrant: just had 5 minutes | 01:28 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Or do you mean source publishing status vs. binary publishing status? | 01:28 |
| wgrant | Binary status is the far right column. | 01:28 |
| lifeless | So the web page can claim that [say] amd64 is published | 01:28 |
| lifeless | but apt-get doesn't see it | 01:28 |
| wgrant | How does it say that it's published? | 01:29 |
| lifeless | expand the table, list of builds with green ticks | 01:29 |
| lifeless | and ones that aren't published it adds '- not published' [or something like that] | 01:29 |
| lifeless | it follows that those with green ticks and without the warning are published and downloadable | 01:29 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Right. So this appears with a green tick but without the '- not yet published' warning? | 01:29 |
| wgrant | That seems odd. | 01:29 |
| wgrant | They should be, within seconds of that being set. | 01:30 |
| blizzkid | anyone has any suggestions for a better name than cwibber btw? | 01:30 |
| lifeless | charles wanted indigo bracers but expectation rejected? | 01:31 |
| wgrant | Plausible. | 01:32 |
| wgrant | I do wish that pkg-create-dbgsym would avoid failing in obscure ways, unrelated to what I'm doing to it. | 01:41 |
| lifeless | you're getting auto debug debs for ppas | 01:42 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 01:42 |
| wgrant | And all my changes work. | 01:42 |
| wgrant | But it fails for other reasons. | 01:42 |
| wgrant | It did in my previous Soyuz setup too, but started working after a while. | 01:43 |
| lifeless | Yak Shave. | 01:43 |
| blizzkid | anyway, I'm off to bed | 01:43 |
| wgrant | Hrmph. It the umask being set to 077, which I traced back to twisted, and indeed overriding it in twisted works. But why, then, does this not happen on the real buildds? Hmmmmm. | 02:45 |
| lifeless | root? | 02:50 |
| wgrant | lifeless: What do you mean? | 02:51 |
| lifeless | is there a difference in the account running the code on the real buildds | 02:51 |
| wgrant | Ah, right. I don't know, but I think they should be set up similarly (the package does all that). | 02:52 |
| wgrant | (the 'buildd' user runs the daemon, which then sudos to do stuff) | 02:52 |
| lifeless | Success bzrlib.tests.blackbox.test_log.TestLogMerges.test_merges_are_indented_by_level | 04:07 |
| lifeless | Success bzrlib.tests.blackbox.test_log.TestLogMerges.test_merges_partial_range | 04:07 |
| lifeless | Running [ 2% 387 test(s) ] Current test: None | 04:07 |
| lifeless | * | 04:07 |
| lifeless | wgrant: ^ new pqm output coming soon :) | 04:07 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Not bad. | 04:08 |
| lifeless | by which you mean bloody brilliant. | 04:09 |
| lifeless | :) | 04:09 |
| wgrant | Only if it works for buildbot too. | 04:09 |
| wgrant | Wow, the chromium-daily PPA is rather massive. | 04:12 |
| lifeless | http://buildbot.net/trac/ticket/610 | 04:13 |
| wgrant | OK, bloody brilliant, then! | 04:14 |
| lifeless | its not implemented yet; but they are aware of it, and its a matter of deciding what you want the UI to look like rather than anything else | 04:16 |
| lifeless | and pushed | 04:21 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I'm amused that PQM isn't self-hosting. | 04:23 |
| lifeless | wgrant: its a PITA | 04:25 |
| lifeless | I've taken some steps towards that yesterday and today with the improvements to its dependency chain | 04:26 |
| lifeless | the problem is that it wasn't TDD'd up, the core is still only integration tested, and not comprehensively at that. | 04:26 |
| spiv | lifeless: shiny | 04:26 |
| lifeless | spiv: \o/ | 04:27 |
| idnar | "This site is running pre-release code. <a href="https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug">Please report all bugs.</a>" | 04:28 |
| idnar | heh | 04:28 |
| idnar | that's ironic | 04:29 |
| lifeless | and a bly | 04:30 |
| wgrant | There are threeish bugs on that already. | 04:30 |
| wgrant | And it's going to be replaced soon. | 04:30 |
| lifeless | Success bzrlib.tests.per_branch.test_branch.TestBranch.test_revision_ids_are_utf8(RemoteBranchFormat-default) | 04:32 |
| * micahg was just going to report the same thing :) | 04:32 | |
| lifeless | Running [ 7% 1437 test(s) 4 failure(s) 5 errors(s) ] Current test: bzrlib.tests.per_branch.test_branch.TestBranch.test_revision_ids_are_utf8(RemoteBranchFormat-v2) | 04:32 |
| lifeless | right, all stuff tested, pushed and blocked. | 04:32 |
| lifeless | s/blocked/blogged | 04:33 |
| lifeless | and RT ticket sent too. | 04:40 |
| lifeless | cool | 04:52 |
| lifeless | http://slork.stanford.edu/ | 04:52 |
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| kamalnandan | on this page: | 06:18 |
| kamalnandan | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware | 06:18 |
| kamalnandan | whats the meaning of "Step 1: Copy the first line from the apt sources.list entries section of the PPA overview page. For example:" | 06:18 |
| kamalnandan | infact..i am new to lanchpad as well as packaging.. | 06:19 |
| kamalnandan | and i have just registered my openPGP keys with launchpad.. | 06:19 |
| wgrant | kamalnandan: I answered precisely this question when you asked a week ago. Do you need more explanation? | 06:19 |
| wgrant | kamalnandan: You might have better luck looking at the instructions on the page for the PPA you want to install from. | 06:21 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: thanks for response..infact..i had got stuck with the key creation..the earlier one was lost somewhere..so i created again and registered today..ok..let me check the last week's log(infact i work on this project only on weekends, so tend to forget...:-)..sorry for that) | 06:21 |
| wgrant | < wgrant> kamalnandan: The two 'deb' and 'deb-src' lines in a box on a page like https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/ppa | 06:22 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: thanks for this..i will just go thru this..and probably will ask more questions..:-) | 06:24 |
| wgrant | kamalnandan: Sure. | 06:24 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: well...but i havnt uploaded any package yet..i do have an example (hello world) package on my local machine...do i need to upload that first? if yes...do i need to go thru the further pages of the launchpad packaging tutorial?(https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware) | 06:29 |
| kamalnandan | or lets say..why not i should try to install your experimantal package that is lying in your PPA?? | 06:30 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: does it sound good? | 06:31 |
| kamalnandan | just for learning and experimental purposes? | 06:32 |
| kamalnandan | just for learning and experimental purposes.. | 06:32 |
| spiv | kamalnandan: well, it does seem a bit hard to follow an "Install Software" tutorial without some software to install. | 06:34 |
| spiv | So sure, if you want to learn/practice doing that, I'd find some software to install. | 06:35 |
| kamalnandan | spiv: thanks for that...I will appreciate that ...i am in learning phase and i want to install some example package and learn.. | 06:37 |
| kamalnandan | while adding the experimental package from Wgrant's page i get the following error: | 06:47 |
| kamalnandan | "The following keys couldn't be verified because the public key is not available<some signature>" | 06:49 |
| wgrant | kamalnandan: Exactly which PPA were you attempting to use, and how were you trying to add it? | 06:49 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: the experimental PPA on your page(https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/experimental)..and i followed the same procedure as mentioned on this page(https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware) | 06:51 |
| wgrant | kamalnandan: I might remind you to read the description of that PPA. | 06:52 |
| wgrant | And try the '(Read about installing)' installing link on my PPA page, rather than the one on the help wiki. | 06:52 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: yes..thats what I am going thru...though i dont see any other description on your PPA page apart from the comment ("This site is running pre-release code. <a href="https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug">Please report all bugs.</a>") | 06:55 |
| wgrant | "Dangerous stuff that you probably really, really don't want in your sources.list." | 06:56 |
| wgrant | At the top. | 06:56 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: Oops...i had just moved away from that page and thats why i want able to see that description..:-(.. | 06:59 |
| kamalnandan | however, can you plz direct me to some simple package which i can install and see how it works.. | 07:00 |
| wgrant | kamalnandan: There's some stuff in https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/ppa that isn't very likely to blow up in your face. | 07:01 |
| kamalnandan | wgrant: thanks..i will try this one..:-) | 07:02 |
| kamalnandan | need to go somewhere right now..have been able to do "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys " | 07:12 |
| kamalnandan | and also "sudo apt-get update" | 07:12 |
| kamalnandan | will work further ahead in the evening.. | 07:12 |
| kamalnandan | thanks wgrant for your help.. | 07:13 |
| kamalnandan | bye for now.. | 07:13 |
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| realbadapple | hey whats up with the server timing out constantly? | 07:32 |
| wgrant | realbadapple: Which server? bazaar.launchpad.net? | 07:33 |
| realbadapple | launchpad in general | 07:34 |
| realbadapple | I just signed up and it keeps timing out | 07:34 |
| wgrant | Any particular URLs? | 07:34 |
| realbadapple | I was filling a bug report for gnome-do | 07:34 |
| realbadapple | and confirming my user name and pass word for registration | 07:35 |
| wgrant | Ah. That can be a bit of a problem at the moment for some projects with lots of bugs. To work around that immediately, use a shorter summary to start with. You can correct it on the second page. | 07:35 |
| wgrant | That confirmation one I haven't heard of before. | 07:35 |
| realbadapple | pretty much any link on launchpad times out | 07:36 |
| * wgrant tries. | 07:36 | |
| realbadapple | does not seem to be project specific | 07:36 |
| realbadapple | just thought I'd let you guys know so it can be look into and fixed | 07:37 |
| wgrant | realbadapple: What kind of error page was it? | 07:37 |
| realbadapple | I know you guys are doing some beta testing right now | 07:37 |
| wgrant | "Please try again", or "Timeout error" with an OOPS number? | 07:37 |
| wgrant | A. | 07:38 |
| wgrant | +h | 07:38 |
| wgrant | Indeed, there is a problem with one of the servers. | 07:38 |
| realbadapple | the page that I get reads 'Sorry, there was a problem connecting to launchpad server. \n try reloading this page in a minute or two. if the problem persists ... ' it says to tell you guys here | 07:39 |
| wgrant | Yep, that basically means that a server has become angry and run away. | 07:39 |
| realbadapple | oh I just notice that you did find out that one of the servers is disgruntled | 07:40 |
| realbadapple | hey do you guys support svn or cvs or just bazaar? | 07:41 |
| wgrant | Only bzr natively, but svn, cvs and git can be imported. | 07:42 |
| realbadapple | ya thats what I thought | 07:43 |
| realbadapple | do you now of any Eclipse plugins for bazaar support? | 07:45 |
| wgrant | realbadapple: There's bzr-eclipse, but I've no idea how good it is. I'm not a fan of IDEs. | 07:46 |
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| realbadapple | thanks and is that the official name? | 07:47 |
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| Ddorda | hello. i want to upload my .deb to PPA, is it possible or i must upload the source code? | 09:51 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: You must upload a source package (.dsc). While that may technically just contain binaries that are put into the .deb at build-time, that would likely be in violation of the PPA Terms of Use. | 09:53 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA and associated pages? | 09:55 |
| Ddorda | indeed | 09:56 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: Any particular reason you want to upload a binary package directly? | 09:57 |
| Ddorda | i thought "source" meant to the source code of the project. the problem is that i have setting in the deb, so it will ask for some packages to be installed | 09:58 |
| Ddorda | i guess the .dsc has it too, right? | 09:58 |
| lfaraone | In bug 419478 , Jelmer recommended that my import be "nuked and retried". How do I go about doing that? | 09:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419478 in launchpad-code "lp:~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk import failing: NoSuchRevision" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419478 | 09:58 |
| wgrant | lfaraone: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+addquestion. | 09:59 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: There should be documentation linked from that page about how to create source packages. | 09:59 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: Everything that you can do in a binary package is possible to do in a source package. | 09:59 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: It's normally easier, too. | 09:59 |
| Ddorda | i see, i will search for the documentation | 10:00 |
| Ddorda | wgrant: thanks for your help | 10:06 |
| wgrant | Ddorda: np | 10:06 |
| Ddorda | bye :D | 10:06 |
| lifeless | lfaraone: open a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code | 10:06 |
| MTeck | What causes point versions? | 15:58 |
| MTeck | Like 105.1.1 | 15:58 |
| natureshadow | hi there! | 16:44 |
| natureshadow | I'm somehow stuck - I have a package in my PPA for karmic and want it to be also available for jaunty. How do I approach that? | 16:45 |
| natureshadow | I know I can upload for jaunty, then increase the revision and upload for karmic | 16:46 |
| natureshadow | But what if the package is already uploaded for karmic? | 16:46 |
| Yop69 | Hi everybody | 17:14 |
| Yop69 | I would help to translate Amarok but I don't knwo How I do that.... can you help me please ? | 17:18 |
| Yop69 | nobody here ??? :'( | 17:20 |
| mzz | well, I'm not really here, and I have no idea about how to translate things. | 17:20 |
| Yop69 | thx mzz, another one ? :D | 17:23 |
| natureshadow | Yop69: If someone is here and has an answer to your question, (s)he will most likely say so | 17:25 |
| Yop69 | natureshadow : oki ! | 17:25 |
| natureshadow | Yop69: Did you look for information on amaroks project website? | 17:26 |
| Yop69 | euh not yet | 17:26 |
| natureshadow | Yop69: Then that'd probably be a place to start | 17:29 |
| Yop69 | hm i don't understand | 17:29 |
| Yop69 | :/ | 17:30 |
| Yop69 | Oki i sent a email to the translate team :) | 17:36 |
| natureshadow | Yop69: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Support_amaroK | 17:44 |
| natureshadow | Yop69: third paragraph | 17:44 |
| Yop69 | natureshadow : yes, very nice ;) | 17:45 |
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