=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:52] what's the naming convention for different Distributions? I mean I have cwibber-0.1 for karmic, should I use cwibber-0.1-jaunty or another form? [00:53] if the package is the same just copy the source to the other ppa and it will build [00:54] lifeless: the package is the same, but in debian/changelog I had karmic, so it only built for karmic [00:55] lifeless: That doesn't work if you want multiple series in the one PPA... [00:55] blizzkid: I normally use X.Y.Z-0ppa1 for karmic, X.Y.Z-0ppa1~jaunty1, etc. [00:55] wgrant: oh [00:55] so when is the multitarget coming active [00:56] It's difficult. [00:56] The semantics of it are very unclear. [00:57] wgrant: ok I'll try that approach, but will my source.list lines then still be "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mcielen/ppa/ubuntu karmic main" or will they autmotically change? [00:57] ugh, 90% of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30994534/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.subunit_0.0.2%7Ebzr78-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is 'reading database' [00:58] lifeless: Yes. karmic's dpkg sucks like that. [00:58] blizzkid: What do you mean? If you want karmic, that's right. [00:58] * wgrant thwacks pkg-create-dbgsym a few times. [00:59] wgrant: when you look at my ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~mcielen/+archive/ppa it gives you the line I gave, but now when I upload jaunty and intrepid to that ppa, will it change those lines? [00:59] wgrant: have you run into '/usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created `/build/buildd/subunit-0.0.2~bzr78/debian/tmp/usr/bin/subunit2gtk' with `filters/subunit2gtk' [00:59] ' [01:00] blizzkid: It will just add extra options to select jaunty or intrepid. [01:00] blizzkid: The karmic one will not chnage. [01:00] lifeless: I haven't, but I can guess what it means. [01:01] hmmz, I'll check what it does [01:01] blizzkid: eg. look at https://launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/ppa [01:02] wgrant: I can guess too, but AFAICT it means 'dh7 is borked', so far. [01:02] lifeless: Sounds more like your .install file is contradicting itself. [01:02] I see you have "select sources.list entries", so I guess these get created? [01:03] blizzkid: Right. There's an option for any series that's active in the PPA. [01:03] wgrant: [01:03] :!ls debian/*install [01:03] debian/python-subunit.install debian/subunit.install [01:03] :!cat debian/*install [01:03] usr/lib/python* [01:03] usr/bin [01:03] wgrant: e.g., 'no'. [01:03] hmmz, I must still be doing something wrong [01:04] blizzkid: Why? [01:04] lifeless: Intriguing. I've not used dh7 much. [01:04] Yay, PPA debug symbol extraction working. [01:04] wgrant: I created 3 folders now, cwibber-0.1 cwibber-0.1~intrepid and cwibber-0.1~jaunty [01:04] content is the same [01:05] but when I dpkg-buildpackage in jaunty and then in intrepid the second overwrites the first [01:05] blizzkid: The version is controlled by the changelog, not the directory name. [01:06] wgrant: so instead of cwibber (0.1-1) it should read cwibber (0.1-1~jaunty) ? [01:07] blizzkid: Except that the '-1' bit there is a lie, yes. [01:07] wgrant: upstream breakage [01:07] lifeless: Aren't *you* upstream? [01:07] yes [01:08] I'm allowed to break things too :P [01:08] wgrant: what do you mean with a lie? should I remove that -1? [01:08] blizzkid: It's not in Debian, so it should be -0. Some people use -0ubuntu1~ppa1, or -0ubuntu1~username1, or -0username1, or -0ppa1, or... [01:08] oh, I see [01:09] and can I re-upload my karmic version with just that change? Or do I have to delete my packages first? [01:10] blizzkid: Now, that is awkward. Because you've used 0.1-1, you can never upload anything less than that to karmic. [01:10] blizzkid: do you mean 'karmic official' or 'karmic in my ppa' [01:10] wgrant: question all assumptions. [01:11] ppa [01:11] lifeless: Indeed. [01:12] I requested deletion [01:12] wgrant: in the fuckage here. [01:12] it was bzr (again, I'm upstream :P) doing a silent bad merg.e [01:12] so it got duplicated lines [01:13] lifeless: Aha. Lovely. [01:13] subunit2gtk was being installed twice [01:13] blizzkid: That won't help. [01:13] wgrant: why not? [01:13] blizzkid: Because the version will be remembered. [01:13] when delete doesn't mean delete [01:14] It's delete in an archive context. It deletes it from the on-disk archive. [01:15] hmmz [01:16] wgrant: cwibber 0.1-0ppa1 (Accepted) so it worked (that's the changed one for karmic) [01:19] blizzkid: That can't always be relied upon to work. [01:19] But it looks like it has this time. [01:19] \o/ success [01:19] good enough for me for now ;) [01:21] yay, there all there now [01:22] if you guys want to try it out and comment, be my guest :) [01:22] I actually meant my package :P [01:27] wgrant: so you're working on ppas [01:27] lifeless: I am. [01:27] wgrant: are you planning to tackle the 'web page says published, apt-get update says fail' skew? [01:28] lifeless: There shouldn't be more than a few seconds of that (except in primary/partner) [01:28] wgrant: just had 5 minutes [01:28] lifeless: Or do you mean source publishing status vs. binary publishing status? [01:28] Binary status is the far right column. [01:28] So the web page can claim that [say] amd64 is published [01:28] but apt-get doesn't see it [01:29] How does it say that it's published? [01:29] expand the table, list of builds with green ticks [01:29] and ones that aren't published it adds '- not published' [or something like that] [01:29] it follows that those with green ticks and without the warning are published and downloadable [01:29] lifeless: Right. So this appears with a green tick but without the '- not yet published' warning? [01:29] That seems odd. [01:30] They should be, within seconds of that being set. [01:30] anyone has any suggestions for a better name than cwibber btw? [01:31] charles wanted indigo bracers but expectation rejected? [01:32] Plausible. [01:41] I do wish that pkg-create-dbgsym would avoid failing in obscure ways, unrelated to what I'm doing to it. [01:42] you're getting auto debug debs for ppas [01:42] Yes. [01:42] And all my changes work. [01:42] But it fails for other reasons. [01:43] It did in my previous Soyuz setup too, but started working after a while. [01:43] Yak Shave. [01:43] anyway, I'm off to bed [02:45] Hrmph. It the umask being set to 077, which I traced back to twisted, and indeed overriding it in twisted works. But why, then, does this not happen on the real buildds? Hmmmmm. [02:50] root? [02:51] lifeless: What do you mean? [02:51] is there a difference in the account running the code on the real buildds [02:52] Ah, right. I don't know, but I think they should be set up similarly (the package does all that). [02:52] (the 'buildd' user runs the daemon, which then sudos to do stuff) [04:07] Success bzrlib.tests.blackbox.test_log.TestLogMerges.test_merges_are_indented_by_level [04:07] Success bzrlib.tests.blackbox.test_log.TestLogMerges.test_merges_partial_range [04:07] Running [ 2% 387 test(s) ] Current test: None [04:07] * [04:07] wgrant: ^ new pqm output coming soon :) [04:08] lifeless: Not bad. [04:09] by which you mean bloody brilliant. [04:09] :) [04:09] Only if it works for buildbot too. [04:12] Wow, the chromium-daily PPA is rather massive. [04:13] http://buildbot.net/trac/ticket/610 [04:14] OK, bloody brilliant, then! [04:16] its not implemented yet; but they are aware of it, and its a matter of deciding what you want the UI to look like rather than anything else [04:21] and pushed [04:23] lifeless: I'm amused that PQM isn't self-hosting. [04:25] wgrant: its a PITA [04:26] I've taken some steps towards that yesterday and today with the improvements to its dependency chain [04:26] the problem is that it wasn't TDD'd up, the core is still only integration tested, and not comprehensively at that. [04:26] lifeless: shiny [04:27] spiv: \o/ [04:28] "This site is running pre-release code. Please report all bugs." [04:28] heh [04:29] that's ironic [04:30] and a bly [04:30] There are threeish bugs on that already. [04:30] And it's going to be replaced soon. [04:32] Success bzrlib.tests.per_branch.test_branch.TestBranch.test_revision_ids_are_utf8(RemoteBranchFormat-default) [04:32] * micahg was just going to report the same thing :) [04:32] Running [ 7% 1437 test(s) 4 failure(s) 5 errors(s) ] Current test: bzrlib.tests.per_branch.test_branch.TestBranch.test_revision_ids_are_utf8(RemoteBranchFormat-v2) [04:32] right, all stuff tested, pushed and blocked. [04:33] s/blocked/blogged [04:40] and RT ticket sent too. [04:52] cool [04:52] http://slork.stanford.edu/ === jamalta_ is now known as jamalta [06:18] on this page: [06:18] https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware [06:18] whats the meaning of "Step 1: Copy the first line from the apt sources.list entries section of the PPA overview page. For example:" [06:19] infact..i am new to lanchpad as well as packaging.. [06:19] and i have just registered my openPGP keys with launchpad.. [06:19] kamalnandan: I answered precisely this question when you asked a week ago. Do you need more explanation? [06:21] kamalnandan: You might have better luck looking at the instructions on the page for the PPA you want to install from. [06:21] wgrant: thanks for response..infact..i had got stuck with the key creation..the earlier one was lost somewhere..so i created again and registered today..ok..let me check the last week's log(infact i work on this project only on weekends, so tend to forget...:-)..sorry for that) [06:22] < wgrant> kamalnandan: The two 'deb' and 'deb-src' lines in a box on a page like https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/ppa [06:24] wgrant: thanks for this..i will just go thru this..and probably will ask more questions..:-) [06:24] kamalnandan: Sure. [06:29] wgrant: well...but i havnt uploaded any package yet..i do have an example (hello world) package on my local machine...do i need to upload that first? if yes...do i need to go thru the further pages of the launchpad packaging tutorial?(https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware) [06:30] or lets say..why not i should try to install your experimantal package that is lying in your PPA?? [06:31] wgrant: does it sound good? [06:32] just for learning and experimental purposes? [06:32] just for learning and experimental purposes.. [06:34] kamalnandan: well, it does seem a bit hard to follow an "Install Software" tutorial without some software to install. [06:35] So sure, if you want to learn/practice doing that, I'd find some software to install. [06:37] spiv: thanks for that...I will appreciate that ...i am in learning phase and i want to install some example package and learn.. [06:47] while adding the experimental package from Wgrant's page i get the following error: [06:49] "The following keys couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" [06:49] kamalnandan: Exactly which PPA were you attempting to use, and how were you trying to add it? [06:51] wgrant: the experimental PPA on your page(https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/experimental)..and i followed the same procedure as mentioned on this page(https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware) [06:52] kamalnandan: I might remind you to read the description of that PPA. [06:52] And try the '(Read about installing)' installing link on my PPA page, rather than the one on the help wiki. [06:55] wgrant: yes..thats what I am going thru...though i dont see any other description on your PPA page apart from the comment ("This site is running pre-release code. Please report all bugs.") [06:56] "Dangerous stuff that you probably really, really don't want in your sources.list." [06:56] At the top. [06:59] wgrant: Oops...i had just moved away from that page and thats why i want able to see that description..:-(.. [07:00] however, can you plz direct me to some simple package which i can install and see how it works.. [07:01] kamalnandan: There's some stuff in https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive/ppa that isn't very likely to blow up in your face. [07:02] wgrant: thanks..i will try this one..:-) [07:12] need to go somewhere right now..have been able to do "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys " [07:12] and also "sudo apt-get update" [07:12] will work further ahead in the evening.. [07:13] thanks wgrant for your help.. [07:13] bye for now.. === wsuthomas_ is now known as tcorl === tcorl is now known as tcorll === tcorll is now known as wsuthomas === adam_ is now known as realbadapple [07:32] hey whats up with the server timing out constantly? [07:33] realbadapple: Which server? bazaar.launchpad.net? [07:34] launchpad in general [07:34] I just signed up and it keeps timing out [07:34] Any particular URLs? [07:34] I was filling a bug report for gnome-do [07:35] and confirming my user name and pass word for registration [07:35] Ah. That can be a bit of a problem at the moment for some projects with lots of bugs. To work around that immediately, use a shorter summary to start with. You can correct it on the second page. [07:35] That confirmation one I haven't heard of before. [07:36] pretty much any link on launchpad times out [07:36] * wgrant tries. [07:36] does not seem to be project specific [07:37] just thought I'd let you guys know so it can be look into and fixed [07:37] realbadapple: What kind of error page was it? [07:37] I know you guys are doing some beta testing right now [07:37] "Please try again", or "Timeout error" with an OOPS number? [07:38] A. [07:38] +h [07:38] Indeed, there is a problem with one of the servers. [07:39] the page that I get reads 'Sorry, there was a problem connecting to launchpad server. \n try reloading this page in a minute or two. if the problem persists ... ' it says to tell you guys here [07:39] Yep, that basically means that a server has become angry and run away. [07:40] oh I just notice that you did find out that one of the servers is disgruntled [07:41] hey do you guys support svn or cvs or just bazaar? [07:42] Only bzr natively, but svn, cvs and git can be imported. [07:43] ya thats what I thought [07:45] do you now of any Eclipse plugins for bazaar support? [07:46] realbadapple: There's bzr-eclipse, but I've no idea how good it is. I'm not a fan of IDEs. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [07:47] thanks and is that the official name? === wsuthomas_ is now known as wsuthomas === micahg1 is now known as micahg [09:51] hello. i want to upload my .deb to PPA, is it possible or i must upload the source code? [09:53] Ddorda: You must upload a source package (.dsc). While that may technically just contain binaries that are put into the .deb at build-time, that would likely be in violation of the PPA Terms of Use. [09:55] Ddorda: Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA and associated pages? [09:56] indeed [09:57] Ddorda: Any particular reason you want to upload a binary package directly? [09:58] i thought "source" meant to the source code of the project. the problem is that i have setting in the deb, so it will ask for some packages to be installed [09:58] i guess the .dsc has it too, right? [09:58] In bug 419478 , Jelmer recommended that my import be "nuked and retried". How do I go about doing that? [09:58] Launchpad bug 419478 in launchpad-code "lp:~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk import failing: NoSuchRevision" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419478 [09:59] lfaraone: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+addquestion. [09:59] Ddorda: There should be documentation linked from that page about how to create source packages. [09:59] Ddorda: Everything that you can do in a binary package is possible to do in a source package. [09:59] Ddorda: It's normally easier, too. [10:00] i see, i will search for the documentation [10:06] wgrant: thanks for your help [10:06] Ddorda: np [10:06] bye :D [10:06] lfaraone: open a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code [15:58] What causes point versions? [15:58] Like 105.1.1 [16:44] hi there! [16:45] I'm somehow stuck - I have a package in my PPA for karmic and want it to be also available for jaunty. How do I approach that? [16:46] I know I can upload for jaunty, then increase the revision and upload for karmic [16:46] But what if the package is already uploaded for karmic? [17:14] Hi everybody [17:18] I would help to translate Amarok but I don't knwo How I do that.... can you help me please ? [17:20] nobody here ??? :'( [17:20] well, I'm not really here, and I have no idea about how to translate things. [17:23] thx mzz, another one ? :D [17:25] Yop69: If someone is here and has an answer to your question, (s)he will most likely say so [17:25] natureshadow : oki ! [17:26] Yop69: Did you look for information on amaroks project website? [17:26] euh not yet [17:29] Yop69: Then that'd probably be a place to start [17:29] hm i don't understand [17:30] :/ [17:36] Oki i sent a email to the translate team :) [17:44] Yop69: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Support_amaroK [17:44] Yop69: third paragraph [17:45] natureshadow : yes, very nice ;) === buttercup is now known as vorian === mpt_ is now known as mpt === micahg1 is now known as micahg