[00:00] andresmujica: How does uuid assignment work - never had to do that? [00:00] pvcreate -u UUID, lvcreate -u UUID... etc [00:01] * BUGabundo taps billybigrigger [00:01] andresmujica: Does it not just keep UUIDs unless something really bad happens? [00:01] * billybigrigger slaps BUGabundo with a fish [00:01] :P [00:01] How do i downgrade to grub1* [00:02] * penguin42 takes billybigrigger's fish [00:02] * BUGabundo fries the fish and doesn't give anything to billybigrigger [00:02] :( [00:02] judgen: you install grub-legacy [00:02] guess i'll have to go fire up the bbq and have steak and corn :P [00:02] oh yeap! with that trick you can recover from that "really bad" happenings [00:03] BUGabundo, thanks [00:03] !schedule [00:03] A schedule of Karmic Koala (9.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule [00:11] BUGabundo, i cant find any files from grub shell [00:11] ah? [00:14] ill try a reboot [00:14] hope this works [00:14] ok [00:18] you need to specify a root before you can find files iirc [00:18] judgen [00:18] too bad your gone [00:18] :P === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:59] http://www.wiebeswheels.com/notify-osd_0.9.19-0ubuntu1_i386.deb for 32bit [00:59] http://www.wiebeswheels.com/notify-osd_0.9.19-0ubuntu1_i386.deb for 32bit [00:59] drs305: ? [00:59] Wrong channel BUGabundo , sorry. [00:59] np [01:02] That was a reference from yesteday on moving osd notification back to the original position. I was trying to copy it to the beginners forum. [01:02] argh, my gnome-power-manager brightness indicator stopped working. [01:03] DanaG: does it ever stay stable ? [01:03] Well, it worked for a while, until they reintroduced the "use notify-osd" patch to gnome-power-manager. [01:04] Note that I am using the "don't use notify-osd" gnome-stracciatella-session. [01:04] I got tired of the suckage that is notify-osd. [01:04] ahhhh [01:05] It used to use the same thingy as the volume thingy. [01:06] But now there's no indication at all. [01:39] im having some issues installing wordpress, anyone famillar to help? [01:41] some are [01:41] but I'm not familiar with WP on Ubuntu [01:42] well i apt-getted and installed apache/php5/mysql and everything, and that seems to be okay... but when going through the wordpress install through the web browser when getting to a point it tries to open install.php as a file instead of processing it [01:42] stlsaint: hey do you know open source version of virtualbox does 3d [01:43] i do have a php test file that works just fine so i have no idea [01:44] nzmm: not sure. should be the same as in sun's branch. check release notes of both, please [01:44] cheers [01:44] yes [01:44] sdest: did you tasksel webserver? [01:44] o thnx [01:44] can you check permitions on that dir? [01:44] you have to use additional guests [01:45] nzmm, best to go with version 3.0 vbox for now [01:45] ok, is that not in repo's [01:45] ? [01:45] i just used apt-get to install apache, its running fine [01:45] !info virtual-box [01:45] Package virtual-box does not exist in karmic [01:46] !search virtual-box [01:46] Found: [01:46] :) [01:46] bad bot [01:46] $ apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose Candidate: 3.0.4-dfsg-1ubuntu1 [01:47] nzmm, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-3.0 dkms [01:47] this is the one i use [01:48] add the vbox repo and the sun public key then update then run that cmd to get vbox [01:48] BUGabundo: It seems to happen when no package exists but it's referred to by some other package which does exist [01:48] * BUGabundo just got a knot on his head [01:49] stlsaint: why are you adverting an user to go OFF archive? [01:49] we *want* our users to use archive versions, and we need testers during devel cycle [01:49] genii: come again ? [01:50] not trying to just suggesting what works for me...he can take any route he would like to...no malicious activity going on here [01:50] BUGabundo: " Found:" with no result [01:50] genii: typo. no '-' [01:51] Bugabundo: how do i check the permission? [01:51] BUGabundo, i have had issues using archive in past...still working on them now [01:51] stlsaint: thanx dude [01:52] nm, i got drwxr-xr-x 5 www-data www-data 4096 2009-08-29 20:34 wordpress [01:52] sdest: a simple ls -l should do it [01:52] and the php file? [01:53] -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 5259 2009-05-19 11:29 install.php [01:54] no prob [01:55] its just straight from the download off the website, i havent changed anything [01:55] no idea [01:58] wierd [01:58] if i do it from localhost/wordpress it fails, but from 127.0.0.1/wordpress it works fine [02:00] and once installed, both work fine === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [02:05] anyone in here know the scripts 9.10 uses for sleep and resume? [02:06] I sometime use pm-suspend [02:07] well.. I have UNR installed on a Asus 1005HA-P, and when the lid is closed it suspends fine. My wireless is goofy on resume, so I just want to rmmod ath9k before resume, and modprobe ath9k after resume [02:08] if I could find the scripts that are run when those events happen, it would be easy [02:49] so what can i expect to not be able to do in karmic since i put it on a vm [02:55] stlsaint: fancy video drivers/acceleration/compiz... although I don't know about the latest 3D support in Vbox... [02:58] arand, yea that much im tracking as i have already tried but i was thinkin more along the line of technical stuff...ie encryption, coding, theme change, etc etc [03:02] stlsaint: I'm not sure, but in theory I don't see why any of that would be impaired... I'd guess the only issue with vms are issues with "hardware". [03:05] yea i thats what im thinking as well...just trying to get a feel before i dive in [03:09] stlsaint: If there's anywhere diving in murky waters is safe it's when using WMs ;) [03:10] anybody using a wacom? im wondering if the docs from jaunty are still applicable? [03:10] lol...yea you aint lying...ok ok ill be honest...im just to lazy to re-install karmic on the vm right now...you busted me!! [03:10] i have it installed already but if i jack something up im prolly gonna install something like gentoo or mepis or mint [03:11] to lazy to focus on karmic right now [03:20] stlsaint: Yea, I noticed that as well, when I had some interesting issues that I could work on in jaunty and my multiboot setup... However, as far as that worked perfectly, it got kinda booring, and I picked up Karmic again, for some interesting breakage ;) [03:22] oh yea im def gonna end up going back to karmic here shortly...and before october [03:23] * arand meant something like "you want a small daily fix of breakage and if other things fulfill that, you leave alphas be" but due to fatigue, he phrased it very badly... [03:27] hey arand got a issue already... [03:27] arand, care to help [03:29] stlsaint: For your information, you probably know more than me about virtualization, but fire away, else the channel might have ideas... [03:31] k...so i opened my sources list and added the jaunty repo [03:31] reloaded and updated [03:31] now when i try and open again it errors out and says SEGMENT FRAGMENTATION: CORE DUMPED [03:32] From which release was this? [03:33] karmic [03:34] now even when i go directly to the sources list thru dir and not terminal i still get nothing [03:35] i can access the backup i made prior to editing it but i want to know what went wrong [03:36] correction: Segment Fault: Core Dumped was the correct error [03:38] ok so now i can access it thru the dir but not terminal still [03:39] Should "Screensaver" really make it's way onto the most-used programs list? [03:39] stlsaint: Um, why did you add the jaunty repo? (To me it sounds like a thing prone to mess up quite a bit...) === Lars_G_zombie is now known as Lars_G [03:40] genii: "most used programs"? What is that scary stuff? [03:41] arand: On my KDE menu the programs used often get listed at the top of the menu. Just seemed odd [03:41] no ive done it before...like when you add the medibuntu repos just for extra stuff...i googled the error and it says something about it being a error with reading from memory [03:42] im going to remove them and see if it works [03:42] I'm here on my netbook, on Karmic [03:42] * Lars_G dances [03:42] stlsaint: could it be that you miss-pasted/typed the entry. === lenios_ is now known as lenios [03:43] genii: Ah, ok, for a moment you had me pretty scared that our dear gnome menu was up for a lovely "mindset-remake". [03:44] arand: Maybe I'll bug someone in #kubuntu-devel about it [03:45] genii: Or bug LP ;) [03:45] nope i copied and pasted them from another site then matched them with the ones on my host machine [03:45] you know anything about changing permissions on a file [03:46] !permissions [03:46] An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [03:47] * arand hugs ubottu [03:47] good bot [03:47] arand, brb [03:48] stlsaint: I'm heading off to bed real soon, I think. [03:50] thats cool thanks anyway...ttyl === Lars_G is now known as Lars_G_zombie [04:04] arand, you there [04:06] stlsaint: yea [04:06] alright so i fixed it [04:07] your right it was the jaunty repo [04:07] jacked up sources list...but i couldnt remove them from /etc/apt/sources i had to remove them from sources list gui then i was able to get back into my list [04:08] and in good time as well...i was two minutes away from mint or mepis [04:13] stlsaint: so "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" no-worky? [04:13] before, when it was faulty? [04:14] nope but i use gedit instead of nano...but thats when i would get the seg. frag. error...so i changed permissions but before i tried to access it after i did that i removed from gui and it worked so... [04:25] stlsaint: Hmm, odd issue, I don't know at all.. [04:25] yea but its fixed for now...on to mepis [04:29] stlsaint: Just a note that using non-default permissions on that file might not be a good idea (default seems to be -rw-r--r-- (644) root:root) [04:29] you know i thought about that but like you said...murky waters + vm = safe [04:38] Hello [04:39] Howdies [04:39] I've been using Karmic for a little while and I'm having an issue with my download speeds. [04:40] and just web surfing over all. [04:40] When loading a web page, it says "Looking up (website...)..." for a while then the download/upload speeds a really slow [04:40] outside of Karmic, this isn't a problem. [04:42] #1 questions that you will get asked for clarification.. wireed? wireless? what card. what driver? (and ive no other ideas on trouble shooting) :) [04:43] haha [04:43] it is on both wired and wireless [04:44] Wired: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 01) [04:44] Wireless: 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) [04:45] Both enabled at the same time? [04:45] yup [04:46] and sepperately too [04:46] i would disable wireless and trouble shoot from there.. Just to eliminate any potential conflicts.. [04:46] Ive had some wired nics wth flakey drivers that cause many error messages in dmesg. [04:46] assuming its a NIC issue.. [04:47] You could 'test' with various live cd's to see if its UBUNTU specific also. but im not sure what a good 'test' would be. [04:48] Im just rattling off 'trouble shooting methods' :) that i have used in the past. [04:49] haha :D [04:49] I upgraded from Jaunty which worked perfectly fine, along with windows vista which is on another partition. [04:52] try downloading with 'wget' to monitor speeds perhaps. vs with a web browser also. [04:52] see if you can narrow it down to specifc apps.. or all apps [04:54] It's in everything. [04:54] Takes forever to connect with apt-get [04:54] torrent speeds are extremely slow [04:54] see now.. 'slow to connect' would seem ti imply one set of problems.. but slow downloads.. would imply differnt problems... [04:55] how about just Ping times? [04:55] how about Lan to lan machine speeds also... [04:55] wget takes a while to Resolve server name. [04:56] that sounds almost like a ipv6 or dns issue. [04:56] AH HA! [04:56] but once getting the name.. those wouldent affect speeds of downloads. [04:56] IPV6! [04:56] I had an issue with that before and I had figured out how to disable it. [04:56] I wouldent think.. and ipv6 hasent been much of an issue lately [04:57] !ipv6 [04:57] For an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 [04:57] the old ipv6 thing was just about dns resolution timeouts, not download speeds [04:58] lsmod | grep inet6 [04:58] see if ipv6 is even enabled... [04:58] i still wonder why those providers do not provide ipv6 [04:58] its not enabled here on this sytem [04:59] maco: yea.. thats why hes having 'bigger' problems then just ipv6 i think we can logically say that. :) [04:59] maco: Part of the issue though is long dns resolution time [05:00] someday there are no more ipv4 adresses and then its game over [05:00] Flakeparadigm: you can test the ipv6 theory by disabling ipv6 dns in /etc/hosts if you like [05:00] its hosts, right? [05:00] yeah thats it [05:00] but it was supposedly fixed in jaunty [05:01] lsmod | grep inet6 will show if the moduile is even loaded.. [05:01] dude, its not a module anymore [05:01] its built in [05:01] more guides to update then it seems [05:01] so much for wiki pages. :P [05:01] i can access ipv6.google.com and i dont have that module loaded [05:02] access it 'how' exactly? Ping? in a browser? [05:02] maco: So in the /etc/hosts would I comment out the lines about ipv6? [05:02] heh megaman killed dr. willy === jamalta_ is now known as jamalta [05:05] i still wonder why samba shares do not automaticly use the owner of the user who created the share [05:06] that such stupid thing anybody should assume it uses the user who created the share [05:24] alteregoa: Compartmentalization is a useful thing. So each user should have their own area, and a public area where everyone can use. [05:57] alteregoa: you mean the 'gui app' that generates the shares? or what exactly? [05:57] alteregoa: i just set up where each users HOME's are shared and leave it at that normally. [05:57] he just doesn't like the default behavior [05:58] theres more ways to set up shares then that 'right click on a folder -> share' :) so i guess its a moot point. [05:59] the fact we actually HAVE that feature - is impressive. :P [05:59] Im still not sure how it works. (magic?) [06:11] i love samba [06:16] Dr_Willis: that seems kind of scary, actually. I don't see a way for an administrator to actually determine from the Samba CLI/config that something is shared. unless they're connected, in which case smbstatus helps [06:17] when you create a share in Nautilus like that, the share is invisible to even "/usr/bin/testparm -svt UTF-8" - which purports to generate a "normalized" config... [06:19] mpontillo: i tend to use findsmb, and smbtree [06:19] yea - that share by nautilus is.. somehow special. :) [06:20] lol [06:20] i dont think it even shows up in /etc/samba/smb.conf [06:25] yeah, must be using some kind of internal API to poke at Samba without changing the config. smbtree - heh, the first thing it asked me was "Enter root's password:" [06:26] i was thinking smbtree can also run as a user.. but i rarely use it. :) [06:26] i like 'findsmb' :) [06:26] I figured that (was running 'sudo' to make sure I could query the Samba daemon) but even when I entered the password I thought I used with "smbpasswd -a" it didn't work for my normal user either. [06:27] if I press "enter" I simply get no output though. [06:27] Kubuntu/kde4 dosent have the 'right click to share' feature. :) [06:27] c4pt: dmesg ungarbled now? [06:27] So i cant test it out [06:28] Sorry, misdirect [06:31] anyone here know what scripts are called for sleep/suspend and for resume? [06:32] the gui app [06:32] GSF1200S: They're usually in /etc/acpi [06:32] if you add a share from within nautilus [06:32] it should have at least a tab where you can enter the permissions [06:32] owner and group [06:33] genii: hmmm, yeah I found a sleep.sh but I was looking for a resume script- does it call the same one? [06:33] GSF1200S: That I'm not sure on [06:33] i hate this text editing crap, and someday gnome should use a XML configuration for anything else [06:34] a tree, like windows or mac [06:34] hmm.. ok.. i wonder if any scripts are called on resume [06:34] instead putting new functionality into gnome, put usability into it [06:35] All of the sounds from alerts are only going out to my left speaker. [06:35] linux is still to conservative, i hope this changes asap [06:35] Any suggestions? [06:36] Dr_Willis: aha! looking at the deb source for samba gave me a clue. (there is a usershare.patch in debian/patches) starting with Samba 3.0.23 you can use "net usershare" to add user specific shares. so "net usershare info" gets the info for your own user. but, I still don't know how an admin would do it [06:36] yeah get a few programmers from mac [06:36] ask wozniac [06:36] he'll work for free... those guys a generous [06:36] are* [06:37] Linux doesnt need revolutionary changes in using text files- it needs revolutionary changes in advertising [06:37] alteregoa: gnome does in fact widely use XML... have you have seen gconf-editor? [06:37] proprietary software on proprietary hardware... that's the ticket [06:37] lol [06:37] a net command? :) [06:37] how can you advertise such a complex OS? it should be easy for anybody [06:37] net - Tool for administration of Samba and remote CIFS servers. [06:38] mpontillo: i think system wide, including the kernel [06:38] never noticed the 'net' command befor. :) [06:38] echo 1 > blah (sorry such switches are obsolete) [06:38] alteregoa: as for entering the share permissions, I wonder if they are the same as the filesystem permissions - IOW you'd edit Properties > Permissions in Nautilus, or chmod or (etc) [06:38] altergoa: linux is not that hard [06:39] especially ubuntu [06:39] alteregoa: and of course there's sysctl for kernel options, but even a MacOS kernel hacker could appreciate that separation between kernel and user space settings, no? [06:39] i use arch and it can be a pain sometimes, although it has its merits [06:39] Anyone? [06:39] i hope mark shuttleworth is getting a few chinese and indian geeks and build it from scratch [06:39] without depending on debian [06:40] i understand what you mean though- im not discrediting you. I dont think linux will ever be more than 5% market share before the traditional OS is phased out [06:40] Does anyone get PulseAudio instability? [06:40] this all started because symbolics wouldn't give RMS the printer drivers [06:40] everything will move to cloud computing if corporations get there way, and they usually do [06:41] GSF1200S: I don't see what that has to do with Linux. [06:41] One still needs an operating system. [06:41] Dr_Willis: yeah I had forgotten that 'net' had a Samba counterpart. sadly, "net usershare list" core dumps for me [06:41] heh,,, lets try it here mpontillo [06:42] net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory [06:42] Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. [06:42] yeah, but it will diminish the purpose of the OS serving the user versus it serving the corporations [06:42] IT works here mpontillo but ive no iudea how to enable 'user' shareing.... using Kubuntu here. [06:42] Dr_Willis: of course - I have a user share defined (using Nautilus) - I'm curious if yours crashes since you didn't have one defined. [06:42] it dident crash. [06:42] maybe linux will exist at that point, but everything in such a case will be a shell of what it once was [06:42] Dr_Willis: could try "net usershare add" - maybe narrow it down to something Nautilus is doing or not [06:43] I dont even have the samba service installed yet.. I think [06:43] just my opinion [06:43] sometime i feel like the gurus act like amish peoples, but thats just a subjective manner of view [06:43] Dr_Willis: right, I didn't either until I tried to right-click and run "Sharing Options" on a folder - then it installed Samba for me. surprised me with its smarts ;) [06:43] net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. [06:44] I got to figure out how to enable user shares on kubuntu. :) [06:44] alteregoa, i want Linus to get a grant to hire theo de raadt to do a security audit on the kernel [06:44] you have to edit smb.conf (that's at least one way of enabling it) [06:45] Dr_Willis: ah! there would be the system-wide place to look for them. now it just needs a CLI... [06:45] Dr_Willis: you can make one manually with something like: mkdir ~/foo ; net usershare add foo ~/foo [06:46] ok. looks like its enabled in smb.conf [06:46] I imagine i NEED to install teh samba package also. :) [06:49] Installing samba helped. :) [06:49] net usershare add Shared /home/willis/Shared/ SharedStuff [06:50] so - we learned some samba stuff today at least. [06:50] Dr_Willis: yep - and "net usershare info" works for me, but "net usershare list" segfaults even with an only-CLI-defined user share, forme. [06:50] net usershare list [06:50] shared [06:50] its working here. [06:51] I did add a smbpasswd for my user also [06:52] just did a short GDB session - it's crashing for me net_lookup_name_from_sid () - maybe a problem with my user, though I swear I did the smbpasswd correctly [06:59] all i did was edit smb.conf to be the right workgroup. installed samba, gave the user 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' then tried the net usershare add shared command [06:59] okay - I did the same, except without modifying the workgroup... [07:01] Dr_Willis: does "smbstatus" work for you as your normal user? it gives me a "Permission denied" error unless I run it under sudo [07:02] smbstatus [07:02] ERROR: Failed to initialise messages database: Permission denied [07:02] messaging_tdb_init failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED [07:02] sudo smbstatus shows nothing connected.. but thats because.. nothing is connected. to my share :) [07:05] Hmm.. i can see the share.. but cant copy things to it.. or see things in it.. :() [07:12] Dr_Willis: that must be part of the magic of Nautilus.... in /var/lib/samba/usershares/ there should be an acl and a guest_ok line ... it set the usershare_acl to usershare_acl=S-1-1-0:F if you set it writable by all [07:12] still can't figure out this core dump - 3 tries and it's crashed in 3 different places. I think they are real bugs but they seem a bit ... random [07:14] well i can copy from.. but not to the share. :) [07:15] yeah the 'F' should allow "full access" - but Nautilus also warned me that it was setting the filesystem permissions on that directly (i.e. chmod g+w) [07:16] yep that was it,' [07:16] (ooh - I like gnome-packagekit) [07:17] i'm looking for a bug report on that http://tinyurl.com/lou3r2 [07:18] 515 pages matching "net usershare list" [07:19] 20 reports per page [07:20] off-topic, but interesting: http://www.wincustomize.com/zoom.aspx?skinid=6941&libid=1 [07:21] bucky: thanks; I was trying to narrow the search down a bit but launchpad is now timing out =( [07:21] i narrowed it down to 1300 possibilities ;) [07:23] oh yeah, for me, /var/lib/samba/usershares does not exist, at all! [07:26] I dident have a 'usershres' untill i isntalled the samba package [07:26] !find usershares [07:26] Package/file usershares does not exist in karmic [07:27] I think it's created at runtime. [07:28] yea.. its a directory with a file for each share [07:31] For me, I installed samba, and still didn't have a usershares dir. [07:31] i installed it. then ran that one command [07:32] net usershare add Shared /home/willis/Shared/ SharedStuff [07:41] still confused about these crashes. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/261789/ looking at the code, it's crashing because there is a NULL pointer, but the storage the pointer is supposed to point to was allocated way down on the stack [07:42] over my head. :) [07:42] I know Null about Pointers. [07:43] does that mean that if you try to access your knowledge about them, you segfault? ;) [07:43] * Dr_Willis is null terminated [07:44] I'm worried it's some kind of compiler issue. [07:44] which would be over my head ;) [07:45] in the changelog on samba.org it says [07:45] The default passdb backend has been changed to 'tdbsam'! [07:46] mpontillo, your segfault is looking for krb5 [07:46] maybe in /usr/share/doc/samba*/Debian.README or other they changed this [07:47] maybe that has something to do with this? [07:47] interesting - but the 2nd one is more sinister. static int net_usershare_list() allocates a structure on the stack, in a static function. then it passes it around, and somehow it becomes NULL... [07:48] I'm not sure how to troubleshoot the passdb backend. this system was upgraded from Jaunty so I might have something mismatched. [07:48] though, samba was never installed. [07:49] they made a lot of changes in samba http://us3.samba.org/samba/history/samba-3.4.0.html [07:49] How do I automatically install suggested packages? [07:56] I hate to 'suggest' it - but Ubuntu could almost use a 'samba-help-setup-wizzard' to check/trouble shoot common issues. :() [07:58] MindVirus1, sudo wajig installrs [07:59] What now? [07:59] wajig? [07:59] what's a "wajig"? [07:59] * MindVirus1 's eyes glaze over [08:03] Dr_Willis, there's a gadmin-samba in gadmin-tools [08:05] hmm.. Installed gadmin-tools and it also installed several services.. :) [08:05] Never understood the logic of that. :) [08:18] MindVirus1: if you don't know the basics of installing software, you should not be running development software that is still alpha. And if you stubbornly do so, don't except too much in the form of help. [08:18] darthanubis: pardon me? I very well know the basics of installing software. [08:18] (11:58:49 PM) bucky: MindVirus1, sudo wajig installrs [08:18] That's what the "Eyes glaze over" sounds like it's about, to me. [08:18] [02:49] How do I automatically install suggested packages? [08:18] wajig? what the heck is a wajig? [08:18] i dont even rember how to tell it to install the suggewted.. :) I tend to just see what it suggests and cut/paste install them also. [08:18] darthanubis: read my question slowly. [08:19] and? [08:19] you don't know how? [08:19] darthanubis: I looked through the man page of apt-get. There is --install-recommends but no --install-suggesteds. [08:19] darthanubis: people tend to get insulted when you make stupid assumptions about them. [08:20] I use the aptitude ncurses ui to do that. go to package, list details, select a dependency, select to install, and then hit shift-M to markauto. [08:20] there was no assuymption [08:20] you asked a "stupid" question [08:20] darthanubis: how was my question stupid? [08:20] read it slowly [08:20] sudo aptitude install -o APT::Install-Suggests=true $PACKAGENAME [08:21] RAOF: thanks. [08:21] darthanubis: I wrote it. Why the hell would I read it slowly? [08:21] there someone did your homework for you [08:22] darthanubis: yeah, because God knows even basic users know how to do that. [08:23] That's certainly something _I've_ never used, and only knew because I'd run across that question being asked before. [08:23] I see that line fly by #ubuntu ALL the time. [08:23] Well.. i dident,,but i did find a good answer just now on google. Via editjng the apt.conf file. [08:23] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-configure-apt-get-to-install-suggested-packages-169746/ [08:23] darthanubis: your attitude was misplaced. [08:23] That's not a good line to add to apt.conf; if you do, installing practically anything will install practically everything :) [08:24] Yep thats what the thread says.. [08:24] This OTHER thread says [08:24] !info wajig [08:24] wajig (source: wajig): simplified Debian package management front end. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.43 (karmic), package size 95 kB, installed size 444 kB [08:25] To use wajig :) [08:25] So, for example if you wanted to install the mozilla-thunderbird package with all suggested and recommended packages you would issue the following command: [08:25] sudo wajig installrs mozilla-thunderbird [08:36] hi, is anyone experiencing a lag in sound when they click on some other app, and even when the song starts, then also there is a lag. a lag as in the sound gets stuck [08:42] Not seen that issue here. [08:42] So you are playing a song... launch some other app and the sound player hants for a few moments? [08:43] Is anyone getting massive pulseaudio instability? [08:48] Dr_Willis, yes... for a sec or two [08:50]