[04:51] <micahg> cool
[04:52] <micahg> b.g.o now can link back to LP
[04:53] <madmetal> hello
[04:53] <micahg> hello
[04:54] <madmetal> i am using ubuntu 64bit and it froze three times in a row tonight , any ideas where to search logs ?
[04:54] <micahg> madmetal: which version of Ubuntu
[04:54] <madmetal> 9.04
[04:55] <madmetal> i am on system log viewer but i can't find anything
[04:55] <micahg> I'd say enable apport and when you come back from the system crash, it will probably want to report a bug
[04:56] <micahg> madmetal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How to enable apport
[04:56] <micahg> ugh
[04:56] <madmetal> its enabled
[04:56] <micahg> ok
[04:56] <micahg> and it doesn't ask you to submit a report?
[04:56] <madmetal> nop
[04:57] <madmetal> cause its not an app that crashes the whole system freezes and i have to reboot
[04:57] <micahg> '/var/log/syslog' would be the place to look
[04:58] <micahg> or '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[05:02] <madmetal> found this ubuntu console-kit-daemon[2537]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/2536/environ: Failed to open file '/proc/2536/environ': No such file or directory
[05:02] <madmetal> but i can't get more infos
[05:02] <madmetal> thanx anyway i will search it a bit more
[08:17] <^arky^> Got stuck , can I duplicate bug 371326  to bug 357814
[08:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371326 in memtest86+ "package memtest86+ 2.01-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371326
[08:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 357814 in memtest86+ "package memtest86+ 2.01-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: unable to make backup link of `./boot/memtest86+.bin' before installing new version: Operation not permitted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357814
[08:51] <micahg> ^arky^: no, you have do move the dups first, then you can dupe it
[08:51] <^arky^> awwe, micahg ok I do that
[08:52] <micahg> thanks for your help ^arky^
[08:52] <^arky^> ns, I hope to get your guidance to be good bug squasher
[08:53] <^arky^> in future
[08:53] <micahg> anytime you have a question, just come in here
[08:53] <micahg> there's usually someone here
[08:53] <micahg> except tonight is usually slow
[08:55] <^arky^> ok, will do that. I will hanging around in here when I am doing my 5 a day
[08:55] <micahg> cool
[08:55] <micahg> can I ask what type of bugs you've been going after?
[08:56] <^arky^> right now, I looked at speech-dispatcher, gnome-orca dups and patches
[08:56] <^arky^> mostly low-hanging fruits like unlinked bugs , dups etc..
[08:56] <micahg> ok
[08:57] <^arky^> I sometimes give patches for gnome UI (bitesize)
[08:57] <^arky^> buzz me, if you have some stuff for me to help out with, I am new member bugsquad and this is first active 5-a-day
[08:58] <micahg> well, generally, now I think we're looking at adopting packages and trying to make sure all the major packages have someone triaging bugs regularly
[08:59] <^arky^> what mean by adopting package, like keep on eye of packages that you know about and use regularly
[09:00] <micahg> yeah
[09:00] <^arky^> I work with gnome-orca and gnome a11y upstream, so I usually try to triaging them
[09:01] <micahg> ok, that sounds great
[09:01] <micahg> do they have a lot of open bugs?
[09:01] <^arky^> no, not much
[09:01] <^arky^> most of bugs are give directly upstream
[09:02] <^arky^> when we get a bug, I test if its ubuntu specific or push it upstream
[09:02] <micahg> great
[09:02] <micahg> so, if that doesn't keep you busy, I'd suggest just adding 1 package at a time that you're familiar with
[09:03] <micahg> we're actually going to discuss this at the next meeting
[09:03] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting
[09:03] <^arky^> ok, then I drop in the next bug squad meeting
[09:04] <^arky^> ok, then I think adopt one or two package I mentioned here
[09:07] <micahg> ok, great
[09:08] <micahg> ideally, we'd have someone from bug-control adopt a package and mentor bug squad members
[09:08] <micahg> but this still needs to be discussed
[09:13] <jukkis> may i report a flaw in ubuntu?
[09:13] <^arky^> ok that sounds like a great idea.
[09:13] <micahg> jukkis: reports are always welcome :)
[09:14] <micahg> which package is it in?
[09:14] <jukkis> let me see.. what was that video editing software ...
[09:14] <jukkis> ah yes avidemux
[09:14] <jukkis> i have noticed a flaw in it
[09:14] <micahg> ok
[09:15] <jukkis> when i turn the volume down in avidemux it turns the volume down on the whole ubuntu system
[09:15] <micahg> the best way to report it is by issuing the following command on a terminal: ubuntu-bug avidemux
[09:15] <jukkis> and then what?
[09:16] <micahg> that will open your browser to launchpad and collect some information about the package on your system that will help us know about your version and system
[09:16] <jukkis> ah.. so sudo ubuntu-bug avidemux
[09:16] <micahg> then you describe the bug in as much detail as possible
[09:16] <micahg> no
[09:16] <micahg> no sudo
[09:16] <jukkis> ok
[09:16] <jukkis> let me try it
[09:16] <micahg> great
[09:17] <jukkis> let me see im not a native english speaker
[09:17] <jukkis> do i choose dependencies?
[09:17] <jukkis> or wtf lol
[09:17] <micahg> you shouldn't have to
[09:18] <jukkis> i mean where is the text field i can write into+
[09:18] <jukkis> ?
[09:18] <jukkis> i get this apport
[09:18] <micahg> asking you if you wnat to report it?
[09:18] <jukkis> ok.. i click yes.. hopefully i can write something
[09:18] <micahg> yes
[09:18] <micahg> after you confirm it's not a duplicate
[09:19] <micahg> you will get a large text box
[09:19] <jukkis> ok.. need to register first
[09:19] <jukkis> i will do it someday
[09:19] <micahg> yes, sorry
[09:19] <jukkis> no problem
[09:19] <micahg> but that keeps us from getting lots of spam
[09:19] <jukkis> so whats that ubuntu brainstorming channel about?
[09:19] <micahg> it about new feature requests
[09:19] <jukkis> can i talk about ideas there? of course
[09:20] <micahg> it gives the community a chance to flush out an idea before the developers get involved
[09:20] <jukkis> yeah i hope the package manager gets improved
[09:20] <micahg> if you have any ideas, that'd be the place to discuss them
[09:20] <jukkis> white applications with ratings there and more specific categories for applications
[09:20] <jukkis> yeah, sorry
[09:21] <jukkis> its my first time on ubuntu help chats
[09:21] <jukkis> and such
[09:21] <micahg> oh, no problem
[09:21] <jukkis> got a printer problem
[09:21] <micahg> if you want support, the best place is #ubuntu
[09:21] <jukkis> i know
[09:21] <micahg> ok
[09:21] <jukkis> are you a developer?
[09:22] <micahg> we're here to help with already submitted bugs or help with submitting a bug
[09:22]  * micahg is a bug triager at preset
[09:22] <micahg> *present
[09:22] <jukkis> ok
[09:22]  * micahg is a web developer during the day (not Ubuntu related)
[09:23] <jukkis> ill go see brainstorm
[09:23] <jukkis> thanks
[09:23] <micahg> ok
[09:33] <eltoozero> anyone available for question?
[09:33] <eltoozero> (please) :)
[09:37] <micahg1> sure eltoozero
[09:37] <eltoozero> micahg, hey again.
[09:37] <eltoozero> so I've got two almost identical machines, eee 901 and eee 1000h
[09:37] <eltoozero> same cpu, chipset, graphics, etc.
[09:38] <eltoozero> key being graphics, a GMA 950.
[09:38] <eltoozero> Karmic installed on both and only the 1000H has visual effects enabled by default
[09:38] <eltoozero> on the 901 I can't enable through gui, but I can run compiz --replace with no problems.
[09:38] <micahg> let me stop you
[09:39] <eltoozero> I'm done
[09:39]  * micahg doesn't know about eee pcs
[09:39] <micahg> you might want to try #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <eltoozero> less a hardware specific issue
[09:39] <micahg> this is really a channel for bug triage/problems submitting bugs
[09:39] <micahg> #ubuntu+1 is for karmic cupport
[09:39] <micahg> *support
[09:39] <eltoozero> generally, since they're the same hardware, I'm trying to figure out where to report the bug about the detection
[09:40] <eltoozero> not trying to get it working, I know it should be working and can work
[09:40] <micahg> ah
[09:40] <micahg> ok
[09:40] <micahg> sorry
[09:40] <micahg> so it's a compiz problem?
[09:40] <eltoozero> no worries, I appreciate the info, didn't realize there was a support channel
[09:40] <micahg> yep
[09:41] <eltoozero> I *think* so?
[09:41] <micahg> ok
[09:41] <eltoozero> but compiz works
[09:41] <eltoozero> :/
[09:41] <micahg> Is compiz not detecting something?
[09:41] <eltoozero> it seems to be in the gui of visual effects, or during the install?
[09:41] <micahg> or is the hardware not being detected?
[09:41] <eltoozero> compiz --replace works.
[09:41] <micahg> but the compiz gui does not?
[09:41] <eltoozero> hitting the option in visual effects *tries* but then just reports "can't be enabled"
[09:42] <micahg> ah
[09:42] <eltoozero> rite
[09:42] <micahg> ok
[09:42] <micahg> so, I'd say ubuntu-bug compiz
[09:42] <micahg> if it needs to be moved, it can be
[09:42] <eltoozero> place to start is all I need
[09:43] <eltoozero> thanks again man, I'll make sure to hit up ubuntu+1 and lend a hand where I can.
[09:43] <eltoozero> keep up the good work
[09:43] <micahg> no problem, that would be great
[09:43] <micahg> and feel free to come back if you need a place to start again
[09:44] <eltoozero> yea, I'm sure this isn't the last time you'll hear from me.
[09:55] <^arky^> eltoozero, try this http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-override-compiz-blacklist.html
[09:57] <eltoozero> ^arky^, I'll check that out, thanks.
[09:59] <eltoozero> If I find a bug report with tags that it requires certain logs, and someone has uploaded them, is it prudent for me to notice that and remove those tags?
[09:59] <micahg> which tags?
[10:00] <eltoozero> needs-lspci-vvnn, needs-xorglog
[10:06] <eltoozero> ^arky^, that allowed me to enable Visual Effects without any trouble...
[10:07] <^arky^> cool
[10:11] <eltoozero> ^arky^, I gave you credit in the bug, thanks.
[10:15] <^arky^> thanks
[12:17] <BUGabundo> hey
[12:36] <thekorn> hey BUGabundo
[12:36] <BUGabundo> hey thekorn. sup?
[12:39] <thekorn> BUGabundo, I'm fine, enjoying the sunny weekend in the garden ;)
[12:39] <BUGabundo> I'm playing around with my android
[12:41] <thekorn> BUGabundo, G phone? or virtual?
[12:41] <BUGabundo> [21463.512232] file-roller[24408]: segfault at 7f48cd243fb2 ip 00007f48cb5e5f27 sp 00007fffb07f69f0 error 7 in libc-2.10.1.so[7f48cb565000+16
[12:41] <BUGabundo> darn finding bugs on it too :(
[12:41] <BUGabundo> thekorn: HTC Magic
[14:59] <edlik> can anyone help me with my internet connection? DHCP
[20:34] <mpontillo> am I the only one seeing "low level" problems with Karmic? http://imagebin.ca/img/EHbwUD.png -- if I run "valgrind echo foo" it reports problems in libc: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/262077/
[20:34] <mpontillo> (not sure what the best channel for this question is, tried #ubuntu+1 as well)
[20:50] <AhmadAboBakr> I think the new software store needs to show some info for the in progress installition