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| Flakeparadigm | Hello, I have a question about something in Karmic. | 00:56 |
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| sololxy | hi,how can find the source code of getty? i just find the source of agetty. i guese that is the code.But, i want to know whether someone change the name getty to agetty, and when and how he or she change it. i check the utli-linux source, but in configure.am and Makefile.am, there is no such information. can anyone help me? thx | 04:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | lol kees , i told you so :) That guys changed the page back | 05:12 |
| kees | Rocket2DMn: I'm gonna wait until monday and talk to mdke about it. "man sudo_root" is not as easily changed. ;) | 05:13 |
| Rocket2DMn | kedars, ok, I'm curious to see what happens with this | 05:14 |
| Rocket2DMn | kees, ^ | 05:14 |
| kees | me too; though I guess I don't really have a vested interest in it -- I just hate to see useful information disappear. but if that's been the determination of the forums, I can see the point of removing it. I don't believe it to be "insecure", though. that's just silly -- sudo in ubuntu is one-credential-gets-you-root anyway, so no different realy. | 05:17 |
| Rocket2DMn | well, the debate is deeper than that, for instance, you can track sudo commands a lot easier than commands simply run as root | 05:20 |
| Rocket2DMn | but again, not here to discuss whether or not it should be there. The point is that this guy won't listen to decisions made by official ubuntu teams | 05:20 |
| Dyllan | Hi all. I have written a script designed specifically for my company environemnt and would like to make the script available in a .deb file for easy installation by the staff. The script needs to be dumped into /usr/bin and in programs menu, all info i have found for making a .deb is too complicated for my needs, any ideas? - thanks | 06:01 |
| pitti | Good morning | 08:38 |
| pitti | slangasek, jdstrand: I didn't take a look at the sun-java* stuff yet, but will do; as per the recent discussion, they should be generally ok for hardy | 08:40 |
| Dyllan | When i install my custom .deb file, everything install and works 100%, however the gdebi app does not show the 'Re-Install' option or 'Installed' it only shows 'Install' so it's like it doesnt recognise it is installed, any ideas, do i have to add something to my control file? - thnkas | 09:00 |
| lifeless | Dyllan: to reinstall you need it listed in the repositories I think | 09:01 |
| pitti | Dyllan: "install" should just work, though | 09:01 |
| pitti | Dyllan: I don't think gdebi even has more complex UI cases than simply "install this .deb" | 09:01 |
| pitti | it's just a gui wrapper for sudo dpkg -i foo.deb | 09:02 |
| lifeless | pitti: I inferred 'gdebi app' as 'synaptic :P | 09:02 |
| Dyllan | Understood, so it is normal that i cannot 'Search' for the package in Snyaptic either? It IS there, but i have to scroll alphabetically do find it. This is normal behavious for both the gdebi and synaptic? | 09:03 |
| lifeless | Dyllan: the search works on the apt list of packages, not the dpkg list of installed packages. | 09:03 |
| lifeless | Dyllan: so yes, this is normal | 09:03 |
| Dyllan | I can settle for the fact that it doesnt get treated like a .deb in the repo, just want to make sure im doing everything correctly and that its ubuntu's way of working not something i have done wrong/ | 09:03 |
| lifeless | but arguably a bug in the xapian search index creation/hooks. | 09:03 |
| Dyllan | Ok, excellent. | 09:04 |
| Dyllan | makes sense. | 09:04 |
| Dyllan | now i gotta try and get it into the repo ;P | 09:05 |
| LCID_Fire | Hello, I get a warning on a changed ABI when I try to build a kernelpackage from source. Can someone explain what the correct way to handle the ABI is? | 12:23 |
| sistpoty | statik: ubuntuone-client debdiff uploaded, thanks. please merge into bzr. | 12:54 |
| svarg | hi | 13:23 |
| svarg | why isnt the ubuntu release scheduled for october not have a long term support release? | 13:24 |
| pitti | svarg: 10.04 will most probably be LTS | 13:24 |
| Laney | why should it? | 13:24 |
| Laney | ;) | 13:24 |
| pitti | because we planned it that way :) | 13:24 |
| svarg | pitti but i'd been hearing earlier that 9.10 was to be LTS :( | 13:25 |
| pitti | svarg: not from anywhere officially for sure | 13:25 |
| pitti | no, 9.10 will definitively not be LTS | 13:25 |
| pitti | 9.10 (karmic) is a "latest crack and intrusive changes" release | 13:25 |
| svarg | before 9.04 was released, 9.10 was supposed to be LTS | 13:25 |
| pitti | no, it wasn't | 13:25 |
| pitti | where did you see this? | 13:26 |
| svarg | erm ok | 13:27 |
| svarg | good i came in here | 13:27 |
| svarg | friend of mine | 13:27 |
| sebner | pitti: still a 16 hour day? I don't want to annoy but hardware issues are annoying :\ | 13:27 |
| pitti | it's 2nd on my list now | 13:28 |
| svarg | thakns for the info pitti | 13:29 |
| Amaranth | From the sound of it's still a bit up in the air whether or not 10.04 will be LTS too | 13:31 |
| pitti | Amaranth: it'll be official in less than a month | 13:31 |
| pitti | Mark traditionally introduces the new release name, theme, and LTSness around beta time | 13:31 |
| sistpoty | ludicrous llama :) | 13:34 |
| pitti | lazy lobster! | 13:34 |
| sistpoty | heh | 13:34 |
| pitti | lamenting lizard? | 13:35 |
| sistpoty | lusty leopard? | 13:36 |
| pitti | sebner: the workaround with moving the udev rules aside should still work, though? | 13:42 |
| sebner | pitti: sure | 13:43 |
| svarg | pitti: was under the impression that it was to be. which is why i hadnt upgraded my comp at home | 13:44 |
| svarg | guess i could now now that this is cleared | 13:44 |
| svarg | nyways, found an alternative so its ok | 13:44 |
| Madkiss | hi folks | 14:18 |
| Madkiss | just a little question; when I install Kubuntu 9.10 alpha, I get a very, very boring KDE4 standard theme after the installation; does anybody in here know whether this is the one that is going to ship with 9.10 or will there be some graphical tuning? | 14:19 |
| ScottK | Madkiss: Kubuntu tries to stick to upstream KDE pretty closely. There was a plan to do some themeing work for this development cycle, but it didn't get done due to lack of volunteers to do the work. | 14:23 |
| Madkiss | I see, so 9.10 is indeed going to ship with the KDE 4.2 standard theme? | 14:24 |
| sebner | ScottK: You're free to look at a FTBFS (I'm not into kde/qt stuff), seems to be a libarts issue. Source package is twinkle | 14:24 |
| ScottK | Madkiss: 4.3, not 4.2, but yes. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | sebner: Thanks. | 14:24 |
| Madkiss | ohmigad. | 14:24 |
| Madkiss | ;-) | 14:24 |
| sebner | ScottK: O_o Thanks for what? | 14:25 |
| ScottK | sebner: For pointing it out. | 14:25 |
| ScottK | Madkiss: It takes people to do the work. Please join #kubuntu-devel if you're interested in being part of the solution. | 14:25 |
| sebner | ScottK: heh, we can thank each other when it's fixed :) | 14:26 |
| Madkiss | ScottK: well. Given that I have maintained Qt3 for like two years or some such for Debian, I am at least not scared to the shit when seeing KDE/Qt-Stuff ... might be a good idea indeed | 14:26 |
| ScottK | sebner: If you wanted to look at vtk, that needs some love too. | 14:26 |
| ScottK | Madkiss: We'd love to have the help. | 14:26 |
| sebner | ScottK: what kind of love? Update to 5.4? | 14:28 |
| ScottK | sebner: Fix the build failures | 14:29 |
| sebner | ScottK: heh, you say that so easy. (Even so I only support i386 in my heart :P) I'll do my best | 14:30 |
| ScottK | I didn't say it was easy. | 14:31 |
| ScottK | sebner: There is a patch in Debian bts that may be relevant for the armel build failure. | 14:31 |
| ScottK | The rest, dunno. | 14:31 |
| sebner | ScottK: ah thanks for the hint. I'll take a look | 14:31 |
| sebner | ScottK: btw, some info what I've done with twinkle. Evidently it needs libarts-dev b-d so I tried with --without-arts but without a result :( | 14:32 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:32 |
| ScottK | sebner: It's a voip client. How much use will it be with no sound support? | 14:33 |
| sebner | ScottK: good point but more use than non-installable though | 14:34 |
| ScottK | I was thinking about removal. | 14:34 |
| sebner | ScottK: yeah, but that's more like the worst case aka the "last way" | 14:34 |
| ScottK | I know we aren't going to rewrite it to provide sound without arts. | 14:35 |
| ScottK | So I'll say again, what's the point in a voip client that has no sound? | 14:35 |
| sebner | ScottK: afaik it has 2 ways for sound?! | 14:35 |
| ScottK | OK | 14:36 |
| sebner | ScottK: I'm only wondering why it built in Debian. They still have libarts but it was not pulled in iirc (looking at the buildlog) | 14:36 |
| aladin_ | hello, i have a big problem.. someone can tell to me the equivalent to "dpkg --force all" in apt? | 14:40 |
| maxb | From memory it's something along the lines of -oDPkg::Options::=--force-all but NEVER USE --force-all | 14:48 |
| maxb | There is always a more specific option you should be using instead | 14:48 |
| aladin_ | [15:45] <aladin_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.30.5_2.6.30.5-10.00.Custom_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/whiteheat.fw', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.29.4 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [15:46] <aladin_> if i use dpkg -i --force all package.deb work all fine [15:46] <aladin_> but if i use apt-get -f install package.deb do not w | 14:49 |
| sebner | ScottK: I'm wondering where I can test the armel fix as I don't want to upload several times into the archive | 14:49 |
| ScottK | sebner: Talk to NCommander. | 14:50 |
| sebner | ScottK: Aye Aye, Sir | 14:50 |
| aladin_ | ScottK-desktop: | 14:50 |
| aladin_ | ScottK: able to help me ? | 14:50 |
| ScottK | aladin_: No | 14:50 |
| maxb | devicekit-power still fails to notice that I'm on battery unless I am when I boot - this has been the case for several alphas now. Is there anything I can/should be doing to ensure the issue doesn't slip and persist into Karmic release? | 15:13 |
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| highvoltage | hey, I'm working on a man page for do-release-upgrade. It's --help says that you can use --frontend to choose a frontend, but what are they options? | 16:11 |
| Hobbsee | highvoltage: gtk and qt, i think | 16:16 |
| Hobbsee | not sure of syntax, etc | 16:16 |
| Dyllan | hi all. | 17:23 |
| Dyllan | Is there a way to install pre-deps from a .deb i have created? I specify the pre.dep in the control file, but gdebi just fails to install and complains that the pre-dep is needed which makes perfect sense, but i would like for it to be installed automatically if possible? | 17:24 |
| ScottK | sebner: Twinkle fixed. 'twas a build-dep problem. Nothing to do with arts. | 17:36 |
| sebner | ScottK: O_o, what's the missing b-d? | 17:37 |
| ScottK | sebner: libccrtp needed a rebuild. | 17:37 |
| sebner | ScottK: wth O_o | 17:39 |
| sebner | ScottK: crazy. anyways, thx for your help. If I stumble over a kde/qt package that not build can I talk to you again? | 17:43 |
| ScottK | sebner: Sure or just ask in #kubuntu-devel. | 17:44 |
| sebner | great :) | 17:44 |
| Dyllan | Is there a way to install pre-deps from a .deb i have created? I specify the pre.dep in the control file, but gdebi just fails to install and complains that the pre-dep is needed which makes perfect sense, but i would like for it to be installed automatically if possible? | 17:55 |
| joaopinto | Dyllan, does dpkg -i fail ? | 18:01 |
| Dyllan | joaopinto: Well I am trying to avoid doing anything from the command line, this is a custom .deb that will be downloaded by others, non power users, who i want to be able to just download, double-click on .deb and it installs with dependencies. | 18:02 |
| joaopinto | anyway, probably #ubuntu-motu is a better place to ask | 18:02 |
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| ulaas | irc through empathy... Hmm i must be going crazy.... Anyway, my notifications popup vertically in the middle of my screen. who to blame? | 20:40 |
| pitti | ulaas: please report a bug against notify-osd | 20:54 |
| ion | It’s supposed to be a feature, according to the changelog. | 20:55 |
| ion | No, i don’t like it either. :-P | 20:55 |
| ulaas | pitti, is there a way to pop it up with a debug message just to be sure? | 20:56 |
| pitti | bwah, I just got it, too now | 20:57 |
| pitti | I never saw it before | 20:57 |
| pitti | ulaas: notify-send in the libnotify-bin package | 20:57 |
| pitti | must have gotten a new version recently, too | 20:57 |
| pitti | this can't be deliberate, can it? | 20:57 |
| ulaas | pitti, please not | 20:57 |
| ion | /usr/share/doc/notify-osd/changelog.Debian.gz | 20:58 |
| ion | It’s a deliberate mistake, just like the blurry font rendering that has been the default in Ubuntu for a while. :-P | 20:59 |
| sebner | pitti: heh, and now my specific problem? Though my strace etc output looks nearly the same as the othres | 21:13 |
| sebner | *pthers | 21:13 |
| sebner | *others | 21:13 |
| sebner | arghs | 21:13 |
| ion | You just dereferenced a null pointer. | 21:14 |
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| ScottK | pitti: The middle pop-up is by design. | 22:19 |
| ScottK | Lots of 'discussion' on the ayatana ML about it. | 22:19 |
| maxb | !info bzrtools karmic | 22:25 |
| ubottu | bzrtools (source: bzrtools): Collection of tools for bzr. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.0-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 61 kB, installed size 416 kB | 22:25 |
| maxb | ^^^ Unfortunately, that appears to actually contain bzrtools 2.0.0 | 22:26 |
| ScottK | NCommander or pitti: I'd appreciate it if you'd rescore libccrtp ahead of the other Universe stuff as it needs to get built and published on ia64/sparc before twinkle or twinkle will fail. | 22:30 |
| wgrant | ScottK: Argh, what? It looks ridiculous. | 22:50 |
| ScottK | wgrant: Which looks ridiculous? | 23:15 |
| wgrant | ScottK: The not-quite-middle-aligned notify-osd. | 23:17 |
| ScottK | wgrant: Oh. Right. Well that's part of the benifit of using Ubuntu, you get most of the work the design team does. | 23:19 |
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