/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/08/31/#kubuntu.txt

ubuntuwhat would be the syntax to install it,please?00:00
ubuntuis it something like: apt-get bplay?00:01
EagleScreen_aptitude install bplay00:01
EagleScreen_but from live CD you may have to enable universe section of repository00:01
ubuntuEagleScreen: ta, i ll give it a go. just a sec, please00:01
EagleScreen_i think bplay doesnt have gui00:01
ubuntuEagleScreen: i see00:01
EagleScreen_krec was a good KDE3 application to record sounds00:02
ubuntuEagleScreen: i've been a bit of a spoilt but don't mind to hit the command line. as long as we get the job done00:02
EagleScreen_you can try to install krec from intrepid or hardy00:03
EagleScreen_http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/krec00:04
ubuntuEagleScreen: OK dokey. let's check if there anything in my repos. I should've checked it beforehand but this is a midnight we are taliking about. Just a sec, please00:04
ubuntuEagleScreen: just checked my pack manager, the bplay is available there. going to give it a try00:07
cormy environmental audio machine uses ecasound, which was the only shell player that I could find that understood the term "loop"00:08
ubuntucor: thanks there00:10
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ubuntucor: a newbie as i am, i think i'd rather try to install something basic with GUI to begin with.00:11
corahh sorree. I thought you were *loooking* for a shell player00:12
corin the desktop. I'm currently raving about qmmp00:12
ubuntuon a subject of installation from the pack manager: once I install the required app, will i have to restart the sys?00:12
corno00:12
corLINUX IS NOT WINDOWS!00:12
ubuntuOK, that's cool, then00:12
corunless you want to run a new kernel, the answer is usually NO00:13
ubuntucool00:13
coreven network interfaces can go up and down with a single command. that's Linux baby!00:13
cornot, oh I changed my IP, please restart the system!00:13
corhell yeas!00:14
ubuntucool, i'd better fasten my seat belt aha?00:14
coryou bet!00:14
ubuntulol00:14
corKDE really cooks underneath. sadly the gui is never finished!00:14
ubuntuk then. hang on there, cor.00:15
corbut it's defenitely gotten past the stage where it knocks spots off any other OS, regardless of its kinks00:15
ubuntuta00:15
ubuntuit looks sexy as well, i must say :000:16
corand.. about that nick. amazing catch, but still. your kooking with gas, now!00:16
ubuntuyeah!00:16
ubuntusorry about the nick, it's just first steps, honestly00:17
corhehe00:17
ubuntuk. to business then00:17
corit's crazy that it was available00:17
corconsidering #ubuntu is the most popular channel on here00:18
ubuntumy lacky day, then, aha00:18
corI keep reading it to see if you are using some kind of funky mispelling00:18
corScrew your KDE loyalties, register that nick now and rent it out to ubuntu fan boys!00:18
ubuntui know00:19
coryour like IRC admin, pulling my chain, right?00:19
* cor knew this day would come!00:19
corokay okay, I'll go easy on the performance comedy!!!!!00:19
corI already said I'd stay out of 'ubuntu didn't I!00:20
coram I there? no! r8!00:20
corlol00:20
ubuntuthat's right, couse as i said, it's midnight we are taliking about00:20
ubuntulol00:21
ubuntuand i still have a job to do, in fact, two. including the nick reg thing, :000:21
Hydrantdoes anyone know how to install the alternate cd using just a usb stick, without a cdrom drive?  It's such a pain in the arse so far00:22
trakinaswhere is the configuration for the panel to not show windows on all desktops?00:22
EagleScreen_Hydrant: look for a usb disk image00:23
HydrantEagleScreen_: don't see any official ones, where would I look00:23
EagleScreen_Hydrant: i know there are usb images for Debian (it is very similar to Ubuntu)00:24
HydrantI have a booting usb image with unetbootin, the problem is the stupid installer which is looking for a cdrom00:25
adamhi does anyone have exprience with ubuntu server installation?00:32
adam?00:33
trakinasdone. =]00:33
adamhello00:33
trakinasadam: why?00:34
adamive just finished installing ubuntu server 9.04 and after the intial reboot i just get a black screen with a cursor00:34
adamive googled and it looks like something to do with ati drivers, how can i fix this?00:34
adami cant get into the os to be able to install drivers for the ati card00:35
adamany suggestions00:35
corHydrant, unetbootin00:35
coroops, I scroll and see you have tried this00:35
adamhuh00:35
adamcan anyone help please00:36
corwhy not mount the usb stick into /media/cdrom0 or wherever it "expects" the CD to be?00:36
trakinasadam: a blank screen with a cursor showing "adam@smowrhere:"?00:36
coradam, aren'y tou IN the OS? there's a cursor, right?00:36
cor*you00:36
adamcor no im not in the os00:37
corin grub?00:37
adamafter the installation it says it needs to reboot00:37
adamit reboots grub doesnt load00:37
trakinasis there is only a screen with a blank cursor, type control+alt+f100:37
adami just get a blank screen with a cursor flashing on the top left00:37
corcan you input text>00:37
trakinasthen, log into your system.00:37
trakinasdo what I've said: alt+control+f100:37
adamcor no i cant00:37
adamok hold on ill go try00:38
corhold down Ctrl AND Alt AND F100:38
trakinasbtw, why you want to install X and gnome/kde onto a SERVER?00:38
cor= tty1 (there are 6, on the usual ubuntu install)00:38
* cor was lining up that question00:38
adamok that didnt work00:40
adamok look let me start again00:40
adamfirst its a brand new system00:40
adamive installed ubuntu 9.04 server and that ran perfectly00:40
adamafter the install it says to reboot the system which i do00:40
adamit goes through bios00:40
FloodBotK1adam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:40
adami dont see any grub loader00:41
Hydrantcor: tried that, doesn't work00:41
takoskiare u know if Medal of honor(game)is compatible with ubuntu?00:41
adamthen i just see a blank black screen with a cursor flashing and thats all00:41
HydrantI hate the text installer... it was destroyed after Slink, I still weep for the old Slink one00:41
trakinasadam: tty1 to 6 will load teh TEXT screen00:42
trakinasnot the graph.00:42
coradam, you need to boot from some other media and take a look at your X config, or better yet, remove X and KDE altogether.00:42
corweird that you can't open another concole00:42
corconsole, sheesh, I need to get more vertical!00:43
adamok look cor00:43
trakinasagain, if you want to learn linux on ubuntu server that's ok to put X on it. but if intend to use it on a productive env, please, don't install X.00:43
adamubuntu no kubuntu00:43
adamso no kde00:43
HydrantX is sometimes needed on a server, depends on what it's used for00:43
adamubuntu server has no gui interface its purely terminal00:43
corokay, remove gnome00:43
trakinasHydrant: true...00:43
corit's lazy. if you wanna admina server, get familiar with the tools00:43
trakinasadam: no. it has gui. believe me.00:44
HydrantI'm setting up a server with Kubuntu right now, because I need people to be able to access it via NX to run apps00:44
adamno it doesnt its UBUNTU SERVER no gui seriously i know this ive used if for ages00:44
Hydrantcor: there is no known way to get a new IP without a graphical interface00:44
coroh yeah! of course! darn!00:45
adamok look clearly no one has  clue what they are talking about the whole idea behind ubuntu server is no gui see ya00:45
coroff to check the channel list for typos...00:46
Hydrantanyone have real life experience restoring with software raid 1?00:48
HydrantI'm setting up software raid, and trying to get an idea as to how much of a nightmare it might be to restore when a disk fails00:49
trakinasadam, dude, I worked with ubuntu server as a control version server a year ago. and it did have gnome... not that I wanted to, but I just followed orders.00:50
trakinasso, please, don't say I don't know what Im talking about.00:51
Hydranttrakinas: already gone00:51
trakinasoh, bollocks. hehe00:51
surfmdqhi!, i read ext4 is not fully supported by ubuntu/kubuntu so the OS need to patch or make a work around to make /boot able to boot from ext4, is that true?00:52
Hydrantsurfmdq: first question, why do you want /boot to be ext4?00:53
DragnslcrFor those who want to know the truth, Ubuntu Server does not install X or a desktop environment by default, but you can install them yourself if you want00:53
HydrantDragnslcr: indeed, all the same distro, different installation scripts and default packages00:53
DragnslcrPretty much, yup00:54
trakinasDragnslcr: yep. I know that. but does not mean it comes "without gui". DE is just not   mandatory00:54
surfmdqHydrant: hi!, i don't want to /boot be specially ext4, but if I define "/" to be ext4 and to set "/boot" to be ext3 specially, by default /boot will be ext400:54
DragnslcrEh, it's arguable. All depends on what you mean by "comes with"00:54
DragnslcrWhich is why I would use "installed by default" and "available" instead00:55
surfmdqHydrant: nevermind, how much space do you say I need to assign to /boot so I create an ext3  /boot  and ext4 / ?00:55
* cor likes reiserfs for /boot volumes00:55
corext4 everywhere else00:55
Hydrantcor: isn't resiserfs long dead?00:56
surfmdqcor: hi =) why reiserFS ?00:56
cormove data off, ext4 format, put data back on00:56
Hydrantsurfmdq: you need to create two partitions00:56
corjust cuz it's got such a cool, European sounding name00:56
Hydrantsurfmdq: you can't have just a / mount point on one partition00:56
Dragnslcrsurfmdq- 1 GB should be more than enough for /boot00:56
coryou trust a German watch, hear me!00:56
Hydrantcor: seriously, resierfs used to kick butt back before ext300:56
corit's /boot !00:56
corI mean, it's only read one time00:57
Hydrant1 GB FOR /boot?!?!?! WHOA!?!00:57
Hydrantwhat are you booting... ?!00:57
surfmdqDragnslcr: Hydrant: lol!!00:57
DragnslcrHeh, that's why I said "more than enough"00:57
Hydrantmore like 50MB is more than enough00:57
surfmdqok00:57
surfmdqcool00:57
surfmdq50 megabytes00:57
Hydrantindeed, just grub and a couple kernels00:57
cor11GB for boot, minimum. makes a great place to store secret data!00:57
Hydrantnot really00:58
corI meant 1, but hey 11, why not!00:58
DragnslcrAssuming the disk is in 500 GB range, there's no point in making partitions in sizes less than GB00:58
Hydrantother than the fact disks don't grow on trees00:58
corthey do these days00:58
DragnslcrI have 52 MB used by /boot right now, but that's with a lot of old kernels00:58
surfmdqDragnslcr: i plan to install kubuntu on my old pc with 80gb hard disk00:58
Dragnslcrsurfmdq- ah00:58
HydrantI thought ext4 wasn't stable yet00:58
correally, homeless people stacking up RAID towers with 500GB right now00:58
DragnslcrYeah, I'd say 100 MB for /boot then00:59
corEXT4 is solid on all my systems00:59
Dragnslcrext4 can have some data integrity issues00:59
corand the fsck times! w00h00!00:59
* cor uses MD5 checksums allover00:59
Hydrantif you have to fsck frequently, you have other problems00:59
DragnslcrIt's rare, but there have been bug reports about lost data00:59
Hydranthrrm00:59
DragnslcrIf you're going to use ext4, I'd strongly suggest keeping backups01:00
cori do not have to. but when it jumps oput at you after 20* boots, you don't have to curse and swear. simply wait a monent01:00
Hydrants/If you're going to use ext4, //g01:00
cormoment. one moment.01:00
DragnslcrHehe01:00
corI have at least two copies of all important data01:00
surfmdqext01:00
DragnslcrWell yeah, backups are always good01:00
Hydranthaven't had any issues with ext3 like that, ext2 yah...01:00
surfmdqso you suggest I still keep with ext3?01:01
HydrantI don't know01:01
corhttp://corz.org/windows/software/checksum/checksum.txt01:01
Hydrant /boot, if a separate partition, should be ext201:01
DragnslcrUnless there's a specific reason you need ext4, I'd stick with ext301:01
Hydrantwhy do you need journaling for /boot ?01:01
DragnslcrI don't really think you even need a separate partition for /boot01:02
Hydrant /boot shouldn't even be mounted on a normal system01:02
Hydrantno01:02
Hydrantbut you can in some situations01:02
Hydrantif you really don't want people seeing the kernel image01:02
corooh! is that one of you pranksters giving my gateway a party?01:02
Hydrantor having it adjusted at all01:02
surfmdqDragnslcr: i though I can take advantage of advanced properties and speed of ext401:02
corbring it on!01:02
Hydrantsurfmdq: /boot is read once, and only once, then it does nothing... ever again01:02
Hydrantin fact /boot isn't even really read... by the system, just by the bootloader AFAIK01:03
surfmdqok01:03
DragnslcrIf the system is old enough to still have an 80 GB disk, I doubt that your filesystem will be your biggest bottleneck01:03
Hydrantare you thinking you'll get increased performance or something?01:03
surfmdqexactly01:04
Hydranthas anyone used software raid in a production system here?01:04
surfmdqthe only reason I think about using a separate ext3 /boot partition is because I was to make everythinh else /ext4 but since /ext4 isn't very stable yet I will stick to /ext301:05
surfmdqHydrant: Dragnslcr: cor:  thanx for your time pals =D01:05
Hydrantsurfmdq: ext4 might be stable, I see it's an option now01:05
Hydrantjust don't know off hand, and haven't used it01:05
surfmdqanyone tried LinuxMint 7 KDE01:06
surfmdq?01:06
surfmdqit's based on kubuntu with all the codecs preinstalled01:06
Hydrant"based on .*buntu" distributions are always out of sync01:07
surfmdqHydrant: no so up-to-date you mean!?01:07
Hydrantin my experience01:07
Hydrantdon't know about that one in particular01:08
Hydrantthere was medibuntu or something before01:08
surfmdqhave you tried KDE 4.3 ??01:08
surfmdqI plan to install kub KDE 4.2.4 and update it to 4.301:09
Hydrantnot yet01:09
surfmdqok01:09
HydrantI'm getting frustrated with KDE4, though I hear a lot of the bugs are in kubuntu itself... considering moving to Arch linux01:09
surfmdqthat would be a very long leap indeed lol xD01:10
surfmdqthe problem of kubuntu is it seems so bloated and painfully slooooow01:11
Hydrantwell, part of that is in ubuntu itself01:11
Hydrantyou are paying a penalty, but it's not as bad as it was before01:11
surfmdqbut it's allways better than applying kde to plain ubuntu01:11
Hydranteverything is a module, and every module is available01:11
snowball.01:11
Hydrantnot sure where else ubuntu is hogging resources, but as I said it's not as bad as it used to be01:12
Hydrantwhat's the ubuntu/debian way to remove a service from all runlevels ?01:17
trakinasgtg. cheers all!01:21
BluesKajHydrant, http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html01:24
Hydrantthx01:24
corI missed something just for me, I know it! I saw blue in the channel before I crashed X!01:27
coroch well, if it's important, hit me again01:27
BluesKajBSOD ? :)01:28
corheh yeah, summin like that!01:28
corand then, forgetting I was messing with the wlan earlier, has resolv conf set to a non-existant IP, so mu re-entry wasn't so smooth, either01:28
ubuntu_i am struggling to record a sound file vie my mic01:58
ubuntu_using audacity?01:58
ubuntu_a know, it's something trivial, but there you go01:59
ubuntu_cor, r u available, dude?01:59
coras required, sure02:00
ubuntu_cool02:00
corwhen I can be of help, that is02:00
RiobeIs there a way to do superuser moves from within Dolphin?02:07
RiobeI want to move something from my desktop to /usr/local/ and it says I don't have permission.02:07
ubuntucor, my apology for the glitch of the system02:09
ubuntudid not mean to be rude02:10
ubuntur u there, body?02:10
corsure, wazzup?02:11
corRiobe02:11
ubuntucool, apology again02:11
ubuntuso, getting back to my sound thing,02:11
corRiobe, sftp:://root@localhost/02:11
ubuntuall i need is just to be able to record sound files?02:11
corone colon, not two02:12
ubuntuhoops02:12
Riobecor: I'm not sure what that means.02:12
corRiobe, in Dolphin address bar, you can use sftp:// to login to your own system02:12
coras root02:12
RiobeOh, neat!02:13
corubuntu, did you try audacity? if so, what happened?02:13
corvery neat!02:13
coryou can load the files into kate or whatever AS ROOT, and save them transparently, too02:13
corI must warn you, I'm no linux sound expert.02:14
ubuntucor, i can see the sound bars are being pumped up when i speak, but i just can not hear anything in my headphones?02:14
corahh. so the mic works, at least.02:14
ubuntuis there a sound test in ku02:14
corhave you enabled a slider for that monitor output?02:14
corin the mixer02:14
corcheck that, then enable it, and uncheck the mute checkbox.02:15
ubuntuit should be sitting on my task bar, shouldn't it?02:15
coryay02:15
corlooks like a speaker02:15
mizeryI installed Kubuntu Jaunty on a system and after using KDE Desktop Sharing, two "Invitation - Desktop Sharing" windows appear on startup.  I'm not sure how to remove entries so it doesn't appear on startup.  Anyone have any suggestion?02:15
ubuntudon't see the thing02:15
cormizery, go into kickoff menu and start typing krbf02:16
ubuntucor, got it now02:16
coris it krbf fellas? I use NX allover now02:16
ubuntujust launched the sound mixer02:16
corhandy thing, that02:16
WalzmynIs there a way to make a window (such as a game in wine) ignore all "outside" commands (such as alt+left-click to move or KDE shortcuts)02:22
ubuntujust fiddled with the channels sliders, no joy02:23
mizeryI'm experiencing another issue at the moment.  Upon KDE startup, the gui interface doesn't appear nicely.  The kickoff menubar at the bottom left is blacked out and the keyboard doesn't seem to function stably.02:23
mizeryI can move the mouse cursor around.02:23
mizerybut I can't close the Invitation - Desktop Sharing windows02:23
mizeryWould that be related to a misconfigured Xorg.conf?02:24
corWalzmyn, sounds like advanced window config02:24
corubuntu, it wasn't one of the hidden sliders?02:24
cormy system has dozens of em!02:24
WalzmynDoes anybody else feel like Quassel is harder to read after this last update?02:25
Walzmynthanks, cor, i'll look02:25
ubuntuk, let me check those02:25
corright-click the window title bar02:25
corI config all my windows02:25
corbein a fussy b4stard02:25
Lord_DrachenblutWalzmyn: I haven't been able to get into using quassel.... I keep reinstalling konversation02:26
corubuntu, on my laptop, the monitor channels were hidden and stuck on full blast by default. as soon as I enabled the mic I got a mess of feedback.02:26
corbut I found them in the mixer, switched them on, and all is well02:26
WalzmynLord_Drachenblut: I never liked konversation very much :)02:26
corXchat is always solid02:27
corkinda mature, but that's a good thing in an app02:27
WalzmynI used Xchat for years, but since quassel came pre-installed, i just kinda stuck with it02:27
Lord_DrachenblutWalzmyn: I like one or two features of quassel is kewl but I rather have the logging02:28
corI wasn't bothered, used Quassel for the same reason, but it kept doing annoying stuff02:28
mizerycor: Typing "krbf" didn't yield any results.  Also, Synaptic package manager doesn't seem to have anything either.  And `which krbf` shows nothing nor `locate krbf`02:28
corkrfb02:28
mizeryah ^_^02:28
corkr would have done the trick ;o)02:29
mostafa_hello there can anyone help me plz I don't have CDRom worked when I want to come to Kubuntu after I press enter at grub screen it shows me 3 errors and when I am in kubuntu my CDRom doesn't work02:29
mostafa_plz help02:29
mizerykrfb opens the Invitation window, however, I don't see any configuration to prevent it from appearing on startup02:29
Walzmynmostafa_: what are the errors?02:30
mostafa_let me check I must be note them somewhere in my HDD02:31
corhmm. I rememebred there being a configure option you could setup invitations and all that.02:31
cordo you actually use it?02:31
mostafa_Walzmyn: I am rebooting and write down that error02:32
mostafa_now02:32
hdevalencehow do I print a cups test page?02:32
corif it's just an autostartup you want to stop, that's easy enough, too. but if you don't use it, uninstall, it.02:33
corhdevalence, web interface is usually a good choice02:33
hdevalenceok, so how do I do that?02:33
corhttp://localhost:631/printers/02:33
hdevalencehm, it says I have no printers, even though previously it told me it had configured it automagically02:34
mostafa_Walzmyn: I'm back again02:38
Walzmynmostafa_: what ya got?02:38
hdevalence so now I am back to: how do I add a printer in Kubuntu?02:39
Walzmynhdevalence: 9.04? and what kinda printer?02:39
mostafa_Walzmyn: this is the error "6.1... ata2.00 : failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)"02:39
hdevalenceWalzmyn: yes, an HP Laserjet P1505. It should use the foo2xqx driver02:40
Walzmynhdevalence: hmm. I've never done anything but plug it in and wait a few seconds02:40
hdevalenceI did that already02:40
hdevalenceit said it was added02:40
Walzmynmostafa_: that's what you're getting after from grub?02:40
hdevalencebut clearly it isn't, since the cups page says there are no printers02:41
mostafa_Walzmyn: and 2nd one is the same as the first one like this "[17.4...] ata2.00 : failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)"02:41
mizeryI'm experiencing another issue at the moment.  Upon KDE startup, the gui interface doesn't appear nicely.  The kickoff menubar at the bottom left is blacked out and the keyboard doesn't seem to function stably.  It seems to happen when I attach a second monitor via hdmi cable (the default is attached by vga cable).02:41
mostafa_and the third is also the same but the first number is 23.3....02:41
mostafa_yeah after grub I get this error02:42
mostafa_Walzmyn: yeah after grub I get this error02:42
ubuntucor, thanks man, i am sorted now.02:42
ubuntufor a while of course :002:42
Walzmynmostafa_: Sorry man, i'm not familiar with that, and google's letting me down02:43
RiobeCan I extract a *.tar.gz with Ark?02:46
corkewl! np02:46
corRiobe, yes02:46
RiobeEr...I mean *.tar.bz2, whoops.02:46
RiobeI'm trying to extract a file called apache-maven-2.2.1-bin.tar.bz2 to my /usr/local/ folder and after it completes nothing has changed in the folder.02:47
cortry opening it, and then drag stuff out02:47
hdevalenceok, how do install the GNOME printer-config stuff?02:47
RiobeI have no idea why it looks successful but then apparently failed.02:47
coror use mc, or the command line02:47
RiobeOk, that's a good idea.02:47
RiobeI don't know how to do it with any other method than Ark. Is there a command I could use that can handle archives? I can research how to use it myself.02:48
RiobeDragging it out of Ark make it look like it's extracting, but nothing happens.02:50
cormaybe it's corrupt02:50
RiobeI'm new to Linux, I don't know of a command that can work with *.tar.bz202:50
cordo you have mc installed?02:50
RiobeNo idea.02:50
RiobeI'll look.02:50
corsudo aptitude install mc02:50
corthis is a step towards the shell02:51
corwhich you will learn to love02:51
RiobeEverything that I've been able to do with the command line I choose to do like that.02:51
corin your package manager, it may be called "Midnight Commander"02:51
RiobeIt generally winds up being easier for me to handle then navigating the GUI's02:51
corit's basically a 2 pane file manager, with nobs on02:51
RiobeThat command seems to be working and installing mc.02:51
corgood02:52
coronce it's done type: mc02:52
RiobeOh wow02:52
corkewl02:52
cornow FIRST!!!!!!!!02:52
corsetup mc so it's not annoying02:52
corF902:52
Riobelol02:52
RiobeSounds good to me!02:52
corand then a down arrow to pull down the menus02:52
corleft down >> configuration02:53
corcheck...02:53
cordrop down menus02:53
RiobeAh, neat.02:53
cor(apuse after run) ALWAYS02:53
cor*pause02:53
coruse internal edit02:53
corLunx-like motion02:53
corsave02:53
corF9 again, left, up, "Save Setup"02:54
cornow you are good to go02:54
cortghere's also confirmations, you may want to disable "confirm exit" which is annoying02:54
RiobeSweet, thanks so much!02:54
cornp02:54
corI love sharing mc with the unmcknowing02:55
corit's a great tool02:55
Riobe*laughs*02:55
corokay, with lynx0like motion, you can use left and right arrows to navigate02:55
corit's s000per-fast02:55
RiobeOh that is cool.02:55
corfind your archive, arrow down to it, and hit F202:56
corby the way, F10 kills things, menus, dialogs, mc itself02:56
RiobeAh, ok.02:56
RiobeFinding the way out of an interface like this is always different. @.@02:56
RiobeAh, there's an extract command here.02:57
corthe User menu has options for ar/unarc and other stuff. you can change the menu, too02:57
coryes there is!02:57
RiobeHeheh, the ASCII-like GUI is awesome. :P02:57
coralso, any file, F4 (internal editor)02:58
corand of course, you will probably want to make an alias in your .bashrc along the lines of mc="sudo mc" cuz it's most useful as a root tool. think of the POWER!02:58
Riobelol, ah! I didn't open it as root, That's probably why it's failing the extract into usr/local02:59
Riobew00t! *laughs* Worked like a charm! Thanks cor!03:00
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RiobeWow...seems that just about anything in Linux can be done from the terminal.03:01
RiobeOh wow, you can use the mouse with mc as well.03:01
RiobeIs there a way to view environment variables?03:04
RiobeAs in, what all environment variables I even have, as well as looking at their values?03:05
cornp! Riobe!03:07
corvariables, yeah, but that's some nix voodoo I've not tried03:07
mizeryIs there a gui KDE-based application to configure CUPS printers?03:09
corUNIX existed for decades before the fancy GUI came along03:09
coryes, in system settings03:09
corbut you need to install aseparate package03:10
mizeryweb-based interface only?03:10
coroh no, that should be in by default I think.03:10
CyberKitsuneHello, I am having a problem getting the wifi driver work on my MacBook 3,1... I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki, but no luck...03:10
corI was thinking of samba for some reason!03:10
CyberKitsuneI came here as I'm using kubuntu and not ubuntu03:11
coryes! there is a samba system setting applet hidden in your package manager!03:11
corwhat's the error, CyberKitsune ?03:12
CyberKitsuneWell, when I try to deactivate it in the driver manager (System->Hardware Drivers) it shows as deactivated, and won't let me reactivate until I close the window, but when I reopen it it's still activated! A reboot makes no difference either.03:15
coryou want it disabled?03:16
rubyistcan anyone help03:22
rubyistseems sound works for some apps, for others it doesnt03:23
CyberKitsuneYes03:23
CyberKitsuneThe wiki says that I need to disable/enable it03:24
CyberKitsuneJockey isn't working03:24
corbut the ultimate goal is to have it working, no?03:27
corrubyist, help with what?03:27
zebaztiananyone know whats gnome's file manager?03:27
rubyistcor: sound works for some apps, some it doesnt03:27
corNautilus?03:27
CyberKitsune^03:28
zebaztiani have both ubuntu and kubuntu and yet i can only see nautilus03:28
corrubyist, at a guess, I'd say some apps are not configured correctly03:28
zebaztianwhen i type file manager03:28
zebaztiani mean03:28
cortry Dolphin03:28
zebaztiandolphin03:28
zebaztiani can only see dolphin03:28
CyberKitsuneor Konquer03:28
coryeah, small case03:28
CyberKitsuneKonqueror*03:28
zebaztianand i want to use nautilus right now03:28
zebaztianlike if i go to the k menu and type file manager i only get dolphin which makes no sense as i also have gnome insttalled03:29
corwhy not type nautilus?03:29
CyberKitsuneOr open Konsole and type nautilus03:30
zebaztiancan i change my default file manager to nautilus even for kde?03:31
corsure03:32
CyberKitsunecor: btw, What I'm trying to do is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Jaunty Under Wireless03:32
corsystem settings03:32
zebaztiansystem settings>?03:33
corCyberKitsune, the whole list???03:33
CyberKitsuneNo, the "Wireless" Section03:33
CyberKitsuneScroll down03:33
corzebaztian, dunno, I always just scan the icons quickly afresh every time, my memory aint what it used to be. I always seem to find it real fast, though. must have an intuitive title.03:34
zebaztiancor: look under doughnuts, got it.03:34
corxlnt!03:35
corCyberKitsune, and a driver *was* available, and you installed it, right?03:35
zebaztiancor: any advantages though to dolphin over nautilus, in terms of personal preferencewhats your opinion? i just notice that dolphin takes much more resources than nautilus and it gets stuck at times03:36
corI haven't played enoug with dolphin to be objective. I can never take more than a few minutes.03:36
corI mean nautilus03:36
cordolphin I use all over all the time03:37
hdevalenceOK, what do I do when there are broken packages?03:37
cornautilus, for me, isn't configurable enough. but that's the gnome way.03:37
corI want my buttons there.03:37
corhdevalence, aptitude03:38
hdevalencecor: I am using aptitude03:38
corisn't there a section for broken packages? if not, try synaptic or some other package manager03:39
hdevalenceit says that libaprutil1-dev is broken03:39
hdevalencelibaprutil1-dev: Depends: libdb4.6-dev but it is not installable03:40
corwhy not installible?03:40
hdevalenceI have no idea03:40
cormaybe it tells you in that package's info03:40
corI usually just force in changes until it stops bugging me03:41
hdevalencelibdb4.6-dev is already installed03:41
hdevalencenow librdf0-dev depends on libdb-dev03:42
hdevalencewhich points to libdb4.7-dev03:42
EDinNYI installed 9.04 a while ago.  The sound is not loud enough, and I noticed that kmix is not on the panel.  I can't find it as a widget, and when I try to start it from the menu, it appears on the taskbar, then disappears.  I never see the volume program running...any ideas?  any alternative?03:42
EDinNYkmix is already the newest version.03:43
mizeryI want to configure two displays, two keyboards and two mice separately so that each mouse/keyboard is for a particular display and each display has a separate desktop.  Do I need to have two separate ServerLayouts to accomplish that?03:54
corthat and a big bag of coffee03:55
EDinNYlol.  coffee03:56
EDinNYdoes Kmix control the sound in kubuntu 9.04?03:57
corI think it only controls the in/out levels03:57
EDinNYmy problem is that those levels are too low and kmix does not seem to start or be an available widget03:58
EDinNYhmmm...if it is not available then is it on my panel?  if so, why can't I see it?03:58
corit's in the tray, which is usally always ther, unless removed04:00
corit sounds like the trouble is elsewhere. kmix, not sensing a sound card, would simply not load, I reckon04:00
EDinNYI see device list and desk switcher04:00
EDinNYthere is sound...I just would like to control it...make it loud04:01
corsomething is conflicting04:01
EDinNYusing VLC to watch AVIs and I have the volume on VLC set to max04:01
EDinNYtrying Dragon...same thing.  vol maxed and still not loud enough.04:03
coraumix?04:15
cor;o)04:15
EDinNYdoes that work with KDE?04:16
EDinNYI started with a fresh install04:16
corit's a shell mixer form da olden days04:16
EDinNYbut does it work in KDE4?04:17
corsounds like driver settings04:17
corit works in the *shell*04:17
EDinNYso I open Konsole and run it there?04:17
EDinNYthe problem with ubuntu is that you never know how to fix things since hardly anything goes wrong04:18
corit's probably not installed, and it would likely require OSS stuff.  I was kinda kidding04:18
EDinNYjust apt-got it04:18
corkewl! it still exists!04:18
corgo for it!04:18
EDinNYI grew up with RH before all the configuration guis04:19
corahh. good stuff. I came via slack04:19
EDinNYThat did it.  PCM changes the volume04:20
coraha!04:20
corloook for that in kmix04:21
cormaybe hidden04:21
mizeryIs anyone able to refer to me an official documentation to setup KDE 4.3 for Kubuntu?04:21
EDinNYthe problem is I can't find kmix04:21
corhehe04:21
mizerynm04:21
EDinNYmizery: sorry.  for the most part it just works04:21
coraumix can run on the command line, i.e. set volumes to THIS and quit04:21
EDinNYI never figure out how to debug things until I find that thing is broke04:22
EDinNYHow do I save the volume?  I used to know this04:22
corall my systems (except this laptop) have been a complete nightmare to setup.04:22
corit's good experience04:22
coryou don't save it so much as load it at startup04:22
EDinNYthere are 2 kinds of experiences.  good experiences and good learning experiences04:22
cormaybe rc.local04:22
Dragnslcrmizery- I saw someone mention earlier today that 4.3.0 was taken out of the backports PPA while they're building the 4.3.1 packages04:23
coras a wise person said, experience isn't what happens to you, it's what you do with what happens to you04:23
mizeryGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A <-- How do I generate a public key?04:23
coradd the key04:23
EDinNYthere is some other bug...my guess is new kernel. I have had 2 desktops lock up.  I know on one both memory and swap were maxed out04:24
mizerycor: how do I add the key?04:24
EDinNYdid not get to look at the other one04:24
CyberKitsunecor: Nvm, a guy in a Sonic The Hedgehog fan IRC room helped me fix it =P04:25
corit tells you on the repo page04:25
CyberKitsuneI know, except that didn't work04:26
corso what was the problem?04:26
mizerygpg --gen-key <something here>?04:26
corthat was sor mizery04:26
CyberKitsuneThe wrong driver was being loaded04:26
mizeryWhat's the repo page?04:26
cor*for04:26
mizeryrepository page04:27
corit's the page that gave you the URL for the REPOsitory04:27
mizeryhmm, http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-install-kde-43-in-ubuntukubuntu.html ?04:27
mizeryit didn't say on that page04:27
mizeryI think the author missed that step04:27
corand the command is sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <KEY HERE>04:28
coreven without the keys, you can install04:29
cordo it in the shell04:29
Zuz|Kubuntucan anyone help me set my dell inspiron 1501 keyboard layout to what in windows would be United States International?04:52
Zuz|Kubuntui almost got it04:52
Zuz|Kubuntui can get the á é í ó ú êâ all fine à fine as well but the ' in the c has to be below the c and not over like this ć04:53
inscapehi everyone05:23
inscapeanyone here?05:25
inscapehi Zuz05:25
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webbbcan anyone in here explain what is this social desktop about05:57
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CyberKitsune_I can't seem to get the KDE 4.3 source to update06:28
CyberKitsune_well it does06:28
CyberKitsune_but06:28
CyberKitsune_None of the packages are there06:28
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savahi there, having a bizarre problem, I am unable to upgade from  KDE 4.2.96 (KDE 4.3 RC2) to the official relase08:00
savai have the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main repository08:01
COm_BOYI am getting error when playing file in MPLAYER ... Cannot find codecs for audio format 0xA08:36
COm_BOYanyone here ??08:37
COm_BOYi think i need to download all-20071007.tar.bz2  file that is the codes... but i dont know where to place it08:39
COm_BOYhow to change login id during operation08:45
jtheuer__Hi! Does anyone know what the message on Konqueror startup "...didn't close correctly .. want to restore tabs" and then the button "ask me later" does??08:47
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p-fIs there a way to get more human-friendly timestamps in dmesg? I would like "real" times as opposed to what seems to be the time since booting up.09:29
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voicuuhm, does the J interpretor have a package in the repos? if yes, do you know which one? "J" is not a very useful search expression10:32
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Craig`hey11:13
jussi01hi Craig`11:14
Craig`http://thepemberton.com/posts/archives/13 I'm trying to install steam, but the link they provide is not a valid URI, (404), can someone provide me with the link of the .exe for steam?11:14
thejayjetson_how can i get my bluetooth mouse to be auto connect-right now i have to used the keyboard each time i boot up11:14
jussi01Craig`: have you checked the steam website?11:14
Craig`jussi01: it says on the tutorial not to get the .msi of their site11:15
jussi01Craig`: Im not sure tbh. I use steam through crossover games, which has an automated install11:15
thejayjetson_steam?11:16
Craig`jussi01: how do I do that, I'll do anything to install it..11:16
jussi01Craig`: crossover games costs some money.11:16
Craig`ah, nevermind11:16
Craig`I'm thinking of getting win7, and using that for games, and ubuntu for other things11:17
jussi01Craig`: you may want to check it out though at: http://www.codeweavers.com/11:17
Craig`yeah I'm planning on getting windows 7, and then buying a 50" plasma for my screen/tv :)11:18
malichi! in kde 4.3: do i need the knetworkmanager for a working wlan connection?11:38
malicthere is also the network- widget11:38
malicwhen i use the widget nothing happens when i want to connect to my wireless lan11:40
malichelp11:46
benkinoobyI am installing skype, added the repos and the keyring successfully. When I want to coose skype in the software manager i get 4 entries. one is "skype", "skype-common", "skype-static" abd "skype-static-oss". What is the difference?11:51
slhk_benkinooby: look at the download page on skype website, there is a description of them11:53
benkinoobyslhk_:  thank you very much... forgot google is my friend11:53
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BluesKajHi all12:33
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ubuntui am trying to install a small app but install generated permission denied error13:17
ubuntuanyone to help me out?13:19
ubuntuplease?13:19
dverweire_ubuntu: what's up?13:21
ubuntudverweire, as i said, permission denied error13:21
dverweire_ubuntu: sorry, just logged in to irc, didn't see what you said before.13:21
ubuntuno probs13:22
dverweire_ubuntu: what app?13:22
ubuntuit's a humble screen recorder written in perl called vnc2flv?13:22
ubuntushould i give you the whole path to look at?13:23
dverweire_ubuntu: sure13:23
ubuntuerror: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/flvscreen.so: Permission denied13:24
freestyler;)13:29
dverweire_ubuntu: sorry. no luck with that app. not getting the permission denied, just not getting any flv data13:32
kockacukibreaking news: new distro: ubuntu vatican edition built in gratis pray-editor13:33
ubuntudverweire_: sorry, i am not exactly with you13:33
ubuntudverweire_: did you manage to install it to not get any flv data?13:34
dverweire_ubuntu: exactly.13:35
ubuntudverweire_: how come then i can not?13:35
ubuntumay be this is the root of the problem?13:35
dverweire_ubuntu: it installed, and when i run recordwin.sh it starts capturing wav, but not flv.13:36
dverweire_ubuntu: when does it die for you?13:36
ubuntui see13:36
kockacukiubuntu britha aloha13:36
ubuntudid you launched your vnc server beforehand?13:36
dverweire_ubuntu: yes. i then clicked on the window when it asked me to.13:37
ubuntui did play with it on openSUSE 11.1 and everything was fine there13:38
ubuntudverweire: can we get back one step for me and talk about installation?13:39
ubuntudverweire: can we compare our systems?13:39
dverweire_ubuntu: sure. btw, flvrec.py works, however the screen flashes.13:40
ubuntudverweire: i see, may have something to do with your h/ware13:40
ubuntudverweire: if your fancy the app, i don't mind sharing with you my experience with it, but first can we sort out installation?13:41
dverweire_ubuntu: i'm running kubuntu 9.04, kde 4.3, 64bit. downloaded vnc2flv from http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/python/vnc2flv/index.html. untarred it and did sudo python setup.py install13:41
dverweire_ubuntu: btw, i was recording a remote vnc server that does not have a password.13:42
ubuntudverweire: can my running the kubuntu from Live DVD effect the install? I mean, do i have to run it from hd?13:43
dverweire_ubuntu: not being experienced with the dependencies of vnc2flv, i can't say for sure, but i'd expect to be able to run it from the DVD13:45
dverweire_ubuntu: are you trying to record the vnc server on your local machine or a remote vnc server?13:46
dverweire_ubuntu: do you have write access to the disk where you are trying to create the flv file?13:46
ubuntudverweire: i checked the path to the culprit file permissions wise. can we look at them folder by folder for me?13:47
dverweire_ubuntu: sure.13:47
dverweire_ubuntu: firstly, what is your current working directory? (pwd)13:47
frapellis it safe to upgrade to kde 4.3.1 ? i haven't found an official announcement in kde.org website nor in kubuntu.org13:47
ubuntudverweire: hang on a minute. I am not trying to create a flv file.13:47
dverweire_frapell: it's not officially supported, but i'm running it and it rocks.13:48
frapelldverweire_: ok, great :)13:48
frapellthanks13:48
ubuntudverweire: i thought, we both were clear on that?13:49
dverweire_frapell: definitely not clear on that as the program is called vnc2flv, thought that was the point?13:49
frapell:P13:50
dverweire_s/frapell/ubuntu/13:50
ubuntudverweire: i think i missed one of you questions13:51
dverweire_ubuntu: let's start over, what are you trying to do if you are not trying to create an flv file?13:52
ubuntudverweire: on what i am trying to record13:52
ubuntudverweire: it's a local screen. just to produce some video tutorials on software13:53
dverweire_ubuntu: ok. thank you. and what are the permissions on the current working directory?13:53
dverweire_ubuntu: just trying to figure out if the permission error is when trying to contact the local server or when trying to write the file, or neither13:54
ubuntudverweire: i have not installed the thing13:55
dverweire_ubuntu: lol. ok. sorry.13:55
dverweire_ubuntu: you've downloaded it, yes?13:55
ubuntudverweire: yep13:55
dverweire_ubuntu: are you comfortable with the commandline?13:55
ubuntudverweire: sort of13:56
dverweire_ubuntu: good enough. pull up a shell in konsole13:56
ubuntuk13:56
mostafa_ubuntu: hello there how can I convert a .mpg or other formats to .ts file?13:56
dverweire_ubuntu: get yourself to the directory where you downloaded the file13:57
ubuntuk13:57
dverweire_now run tar -xzvf filename13:57
dverweire_where file name is actually the whole file name13:57
ubuntudverweire: yep13:58
mostafa_ubuntu: can you help me?13:58
dverweire_ubuntu: ok. now cd to the new directory created (mine was vnc2flv-20090830)13:58
dverweire_ubuntu: then run "sudo python setup.py install"13:59
ubuntumostafa: sorry dude, i am not a moderator13:59
mostafa_ubuntu: thnx for your response ;)13:59
ubuntudverweire: got that13:59
ubuntumostafa: i am really sorry i can not help as i even can not install the app myself as you can see14:00
ubuntumostafa: may be in a day or two time?14:00
dverweire_ubuntu: did the last command you entered complete with a series of copying build/scripts.... and changing mode of......14:00
ubuntudverweire: let me paste the shell output14:01
dverweire_just the last couple lines will be fine.14:01
BluesKajmostafa_, are you trying to create dvd burnable file ?14:01
mostafa_ubuntu: thnx dude ;)14:01
ubuntumostafa: no worries14:02
ubuntudverweire: OK, here it comes: error: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/flvscreen.so: Permission denied14:02
dverweire_ubuntu: what command did you enter to make that happen?14:02
ubuntudverweire: nope, it's not the whole output. hang on a sec14:03
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~/vnc2flv/vnc2flv-20090830$ python setup.py install14:03
ubunturunning install14:03
ubunturunning build14:03
ubunturunning build_py14:03
ubunturunning build_ext14:03
FloodBotK1ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:03
ubunturunning build_scripts14:03
mostafa_BluesKaj: I have a reciever that it takes a USB Flash to store and play movies14:03
mostafa_BluesKaj: and now I want to play some file from my computer into the reciever to play with14:04
ubuntudverweire: my apology for pasting14:04
mostafa_but it just supports .ts file14:04
dverweire_ubuntu: no worries! if you want to post it to paste.ubuntu.com, go for it.14:04
BluesKajmostafa_, ok so the receievr determines the codec to be played ?14:05
mostafa_BluesKaj: you got it dude?14:05
ubuntudverweire: sorry mister Bot. (Holly Molly)14:05
dverweire_ubuntu: more importantly though, did that permission denied error happen when running the install command?14:05
BluesKajwhat codecs , mostafa_ ?14:05
dverweire_ubuntu: fyi, that bot is not me.14:05
mostafa_BluesKaj: its codec is .ts14:05
ubuntudverweire: i know, dude14:06
ubuntudwerweire: he seems to be just your big brother. lol14:06
devilsadvocateubuntu, try sudo python setup.py install14:06
dverweire_ubuntu: lol. he's all our big brother.14:06
ubuntudverweire: lol14:07
dverweire_ubuntu: ditto devilsadvocate14:07
BluesKaj.ts is not a codec , mostafa_ , that's format that contains the video file, totally different than the codec14:07
mostafa_BluesKaj: excuse me sir then I should say I don't know codec14:08
mostafa_unfortunately14:09
BluesKajmostafa_, you say you are trying to use a usb stick for the receiver to read from ?14:11
mostafa_BluesKaj: yep and I check codec with wikipedia now I knew it :D14:11
mostafa_to some extent14:11
ubuntudverweire: shall we try to chmod a bit around the folders on that path? just to see if that can help?14:12
dverweire_ubuntu: you ran the install comand with sudo, correct?14:12
ubuntudverweire: nope14:13
devilsadvocateubottu, python setup tools are quite well established. if there is a python setup.py install in the instructions, it will work14:13
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:13
devilsadvocateubuntu, ^14:13
mostafa_BluesKaj: you mean which program am I converting  .mpg file to .ts with?14:13
mostafa_BluesKaj: right?14:13
dverweire_ubuntu: run the command install command with sudo at the beginning.14:13
dverweire_ubuntu: so the command will be sudo python setup.py install14:14
devilsadvocateubuntu, assuming you are in the sudoers list, just run it with sudo. i'd recommend against messing around with chmod in /usr/lib14:14
dverweire_devilsadvocate: he's running from the install DVD14:14
BluesKajmostafa_, I would extract the video file with a program called devede14:14
* oobe is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)14:15
devilsadvocatedverweire, ubuntu then you should be able to sudo, or failing that, try 'su'14:15
BluesKajmostafa_, *.ts is a wrapper for video on dvd , it has to be opened the video extracted from it14:15
ubuntudverweire: bingo14:16
devilsadvocateiirc sudo works, su does not14:16
seesthey i am new using kubuntu, so could someone please guide me ? how can i connect to wireless internet14:16
gundam_rx78nt1#gentoo14:16
dverweire_ubuntu: :)14:16
ubuntudverweire: thanks a bunch, dude14:16
mostafa_BluesKaj: ok then what did you get by extracting a file by devede?14:16
dverweire_ubuntu: you're welcome. good luck.14:16
ubuntuyou have a great day there. see you around14:17
dverweire_ubuntu: you too! see ya!14:17
BluesKajmostafa_,  actually , if you are feeling adventurous there is a command line program that is easy to use that does the proper conversion for you with a few simple commands , FFMPEG14:18
mostafa_BluesKaj: :D sort of14:20
mostafa_BluesKaj: how can I do that?14:20
mostafa_BluesKaj: type "man ffmpeg" and C what i can do with it14:20
mostafa_?14:21
BluesKajyes , but there are some nice tutorials on the net as well if you do some research14:22
BluesKaj!PM | seest14:22
ubottuseest: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:22
mostafa_BluesKaj: you don't have any link to help me?14:22
seestohh sorry, i will remember for next time14:23
BluesKajmostafa_, http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/19/how-to-convert-any-video-file-format-under-linux/   this is a start14:24
seesthello, can somebody please guide me thougt how to connect to wireless internet14:24
mostafa_BluesKaj: thank you dude you are so generous ;)14:25
BluesKajseest, did you install wicd ?14:26
seestno, how schould i do this?14:27
BluesKajmostafa_, thank me after you successfully convert your file :)14:27
BluesKajseest, sudo aptitude install wicd14:27
BluesKajin the terminal14:28
mostafa_BluesKaj: ok sir you are right :D14:28
seestokay i try14:28
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seestthen it ask me for a password, which one should i paste then?14:30
seestcant type anythink in the console then it ask me for the password14:32
BluesKajwhat kind of wireless setup do you have seest , router-modem , router to modem .. your router needs to be given a password for wifi security , so you have to choose one in the router first14:33
seestokay... i hvae chosen it in the router... ill try type that in14:34
BluesKajthen type it into wicd to let your pc/laptop connect wifi to the router,14:35
BluesKajand of course make sure you have wireless enabled in the router14:35
seestokay, but to install wicd, i have to type a password in console, and it is not the password from the router?14:36
BluesKajno your regular login password14:36
seestyeah, my computer have been running with windows bbefore, so my wireless have been running14:37
seestokay i try again14:37
mostafa_BluesKaj: I installed both devede and ffmpeg14:37
seestohh yes, now something happened14:37
mostafa_BluesKaj: devede I think it is just for burning DVD s14:37
BluesKajchoose a password for the router and wicd , but make sure it's differnt than your login one14:37
mostafa_BluesKaj: and ffmpeg doesn't have any .ts file format or codec14:37
seestokay, but there do i find wicd then it haven been installed?14:38
BluesKajseest, in kmenu/applicationms/internet14:39
seestokay14:39
seest thank you14:39
mostafa_BluesKaj: did you hear me?14:40
BluesKajmostafa_, look in the ts file for the video first , to make sure it'sd actually there14:41
mostafa_BluesKaj: where to look for ?14:42
mostafa_BluesKaj: Excuse me but I didn't catch you14:42
mostafa_:D14:42
seestits not in kmenu/applications/internet, it is only the same programs that was there before i started:/14:43
BluesKajmostafa_, do a properties , just to see if the file is large enough to be a movie , say over 500mb14:43
mostafa_ok14:43
BluesKajseest, alt+f2 , wicd14:44
seestdosn't open anything?14:44
seestdosn't find any filename with that name?14:45
mostafa_BluesKaj: how can I send you a picture?14:45
BluesKajmostafa_, pls read the ffmpeg instructions thoroughly, and try some of the commands to get the feel of using the command line... it's the only way14:48
mostafa_BluesKaj: I want to send you a properties of a file14:48
sep1318dist-upgrade says it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop. is that ok?14:49
sep1318I'm assuming this is the 4.3.1 update14:50
shadeslayersep1318: yeah,kubuntu-desktop is a meta package14:50
BluesKajdist upgrade from ?14:50
shadeslayersep1318: so its fine to remove it but reinstall it later14:50
sep1318shadeslayer: i know it's meta, it just seemed odd to want to remove it.14:51
sep1318BluesKaj: apt-get14:51
BluesKajfrom what to what is what i meant :)14:52
sep1318o. 4.3.0 -> 4.3.114:52
shadeslayersep1318: um is 4.3.1 out?14:53
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sep1318shadeslayer: that's what the version numbers on the packages I'm dl'ing say. "...4:4.3.1-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa3"14:54
shadeslayerhmm14:55
* shadeslayer checks for updates.....damn i should have upgraded at the uni14:55
DragnslcrI wouldn't upgrade to 4.3.1 until an official announcement is made14:56
sep1318uhhuh.14:56
DragnslcrTrying to upgrade while the packages are being updated in the repository has a tendency to break things14:56
sep1318right.14:56
BluesKajafaik, a dist upgrade just sets the desktop aside during the upgrade and reinstalls it afterwards , it doesn't actually get deleted14:56
shadeslayerno updates in karmic though.... and were supposed to be breaking things :P14:57
seesti really dont get this? nothing is happening in my files then i type sodu aptitude install wicd?14:57
sep1318BluesKaj: dist-upgrade deals well with dependencies. as a workaround for packageKit blocking updates that want to install new or remove packages.14:58
sep1318(according to interpretation of manpage)14:58
SquirkeyI have an annoyance that I need some help with....I seem to have set the desktop sharing app to autostart on login...anyone know how I can turn this off?14:58
BluesKajsep1318, yeah that packagekit thing again , it's flaky .. use aptitude15:01
seest<bluesKaj> i don't understand why nothing is happening?15:01
mostafa_BluesKaj: excuse me for DC anyway my file is about 720Mb and its file format is .ts15:01
BluesKajseest, describe , nothing is happening15:01
seesti have installed wicd like you said, but i can't find it in the menu or anythere else?15:02
BluesKajmostafa_, is there another video with a different wrapper that you learn with15:03
petraHello all:)  someone knows how can I increase grafik ram for vmware host?15:04
CuppaI've been having trouble getting my system to recognise USB, and can't find anything useful on google.. could anyone tell me where to look please?15:04
BluesKajmostafa_, try the gui app k9copy15:04
mostafa_BluesKaj: excuse me Blueskaj I am not professional with multimedia files I don't know wrapper15:05
geniipetra: You probably would find someone knowledgable on that in the #vmware channel15:05
BluesKajmostafa_, think of it as a special folder that contains the video , that can only be played on a dvd player and has to extracted or ripped to be playable on a computer hardrive15:07
petrathanks!15:07
seestBluesKaj, i dont know how to find wicd, i said finnish in the konsole15:07
seestit*15:08
BluesKajseest, did you actully install wicd ? you cn check by doing : apt-cache policy wicd , in the terminal15:08
seestBluesKaj it answers, command not found15:09
mostafa_BluesKaj: Iet me start over : I can play the .ts file and watch it in both PC and Reciver . the reciever saves its output in the .ts file format and it just obey this kind of file format. then I want to play a video file format for example : .mpg or .dat or ... in the receiver but I must convert that file to .ts because the receiver just support this file format15:10
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mostafa_BluesKaj: now I want to convert the video file formats into the .ts file format15:12
seestmostafa try handbrake that is a program i have really good experience with for windows, and i know it is in a linux version too15:12
mostafa_BluesKaj: am I clear?15:12
mostafa_seest: handbrake ?15:14
krushiawhen the kde4 plasma desktop dies, how does one restart it?15:14
BluesKajseest, sudo aptitude install policykit15:14
seestmostafa_,yes, its a free  video converting tool that allow you to convert any sort of video file15:15
shadeslayerkrushia: alt+F2 > plasma-desktop15:15
Squirkeykrushia: crtl+alt+backspace?15:15
KelloggsFrostiesdoes anyone know if there are ongoing changes on kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu ? i try to update to kde4.3, but the kde4 packages are not upgraded. just some qt4-packages would upgrade15:16
shadeslayerKelloggsFrosties: um...that may mean you are already on kde 4.315:16
krushiashadeslayer: thanks15:16
seestBluesKaj, done, but says 0 in anything15:17
KelloggsFrostiesshadeslayer: nope. definitively not. dpkg tells me, all packages are 4.2.2 as it is a fresh installation15:17
BluesKajseest, the you haven't installed wicd , try again15:17
seestokay15:17
BluesKajsudo aptitude install wicd15:18
seestBluesKaj, okay it says 0 in any places with numbers too, but it says it is finnish15:19
shadeslayerhmmmmm15:19
shadeslayerKelloggsFrosties: tried dist-upgrade?15:19
BluesKajseest, he's not converting any codecs , he needs to wrap them in file system setup for dvd which are known as .ts files15:20
KelloggsFrostiesshadeslayer: yes. it is not because the packages are held back. they just seem to be not there. yesterday it worked all well with my other pc.15:20
BluesKajseest , pastebin the output from your console after trying sudo aptitude install wicd15:21
BluesKaj!pastebin | seest15:21
ubottuseest: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic15:21
seestBluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/262543/15:24
KelloggsFrostiesas far as i interpret http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages there has been a change yesterday. kdebase and a lot other packages seem to miss15:24
seesti think this link is what you need15:24
seestBluesKaj, does the link work?15:27
DragnslcrKelloggsFrosties- I heard someone mention yesterday that they're working on 4.3.1 packages right now15:30
KelloggsFrostiesDragnslcr: That would explain a lot. Okay. I will stop installing until they are up to date15:31
DragnslcrKelloggsFrosties- the KDE site's schedule says that 4.3.1 is due out tomorrow15:32
BluesKajseest , open your package manager and click on sources, enable third party sources , you have some repositories blocked ,thay's why you can't install wicd15:36
seestokay ill try that15:37
BluesKajmostafa_, what receiver are you using to play the video with usb ?15:39
seestBluesKaj, how do i do this15:39
mostafa_BluesKaj: oh excuse me the model is : star sat SR-X95USB15:41
seestBluesKaj, i am in my package manager, and have found third-party software15:43
shadeslayernevemind..... just had to kill krunner and plasma..15:45
BluesKajseest, enable the third part repositories , check the boxes except for the cdrom one , if it's there15:47
mostafa_seest: handbrake is good to convert .ts file format into others but I can't convert any video file format to .ts can you help me with this?15:47
seestBluesKaj, okay, and then this is done, sudo aptitude install wicd?15:48
BluesKajmostafa_, so your receiver has  a built in pvr/hardrive, or just a USB port15:48
BluesKajseest, yes15:48
seestokay15:48
mostafa_no just a USB port15:48
mostafa_BluesKaj: no just a USB port15:48
mostafa_I put the USB Flash into the port and then from the remote press the record then it record the video for me15:49
mostafa_BluesKaj: I put the USB Flash into the port and then from the remote press the record then it record the video for me15:50
BluesKajmostafa_, what does it record on ?15:50
BluesKajmust have a hard drive15:51
mostafa_BluesKaj: it records anything that you want I don't know maybe film,Radio,....15:52
BluesKajor does it just playback off the flash drive , in the record mode15:52
seestmostafa_ ohh, i have misunderstod your problem, but in windows, i just used nero, made a rip, and vupti 2 folders with the respektiv names audio.ts and video.ts where createt15:52
mostafa_BluesKaj: it has a USB mode when I go through it I can watch the recorded things or any other .ts format15:54
BluesKajif it records mostafa_ , then it's a pvr = personal video recorder similar to tivo , that i use , but mine is hooked to my LAN and i transfer videos that way, no usb port15:54
seestBluesKaj, thank you, it seems like working15:55
mostafa_BluesKaj: what do you suggest for me to do?15:55
mostafa_BluesKaj: brb ;)15:55
shadeslayermy bluetooth adapter is not coming up....how do i scan for hci devices using hcitool?15:55
seestBlueskaj, now i have opened wicd, but how do i connect then, to a wireless connaction15:58
BluesKajclick on preferences15:58
geniishadeslayer: hcitool dev        should show local devices like your adapter.  hcitool scan         should show the other devices that it sees15:59
BluesKajok BBL errands to run BBL15:59
shadeslayergenii: it shows no devices....15:59
shadeslayeri think the problem is : [ 1720.380744] generic-usb 0003:0A5C:4503.0004: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Broadcom Corp] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3/input016:00
shadeslayerits recognising the device as....a mouse?16:00
seestBluesKay, yes, a menu pops up, what do i have to do with this?16:00
shadeslayeruh oh... im in the wrong channel....since im using karmic16:01
shadeslayergenii: sorry16:02
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Lelousiushi .. i have a problem .. when i update my sound drivers they are reset to the old ones on startup16:51
Lelousiuswhen i just reset the xserver all is fine16:52
Lelousiusbut on the next restart all is gone ,,16:53
seesthi, i have installed wicd, but i really don't know how to use it? i need wireless connection kubuntu 9.04  hope someone know how to do this and want to guide me. please16:56
Lelousiusclick on the wcid symbol in the system tray ?16:57
Lelousiusthen it shows the avaible networks16:58
seestokay and a program open guess it is wicd16:58
Lelousiustitle says "Wicd manager" ?16:58
seestit doesn't show any, (no wireless connections avaible)16:59
Lelousiusoh ..16:59
seestjep16:59
Lelousiushmm .. then there are none or your adapter is deactivated16:59
seestbut i am sitting next to our router?17:00
seestand it use to work17:00
Lelousiushmm .. has router wlan activated?17:00
seestyes, i haven't turned something of, and in our others computer (windows) it work17:01
Lelousiusthen .. the computer has wlan activated?17:01
seestyes17:01
Lelousiushmm .. then there might be drivers not working or missing17:02
seestokay, ill check what17:02
seestthat*17:02
seestohh you just solved my problem, it was the drivers there wasn't activated17:03
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zeuxhelo all17:38
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CyberKitsuneWhich source has the KDE 4.3 packages again?17:54
Guest8393Hi guys.. Im having some type of wierd issue that I can't resolve. I am trying to upgrade tot he new kde 4.3 after a fresh install.. I have added the kubuntu backpots into sources.list and preformed an apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-pgrade but still only have kde4.217:55
Guest8393was 4.3 removed from the repos17:55
CyberKitsuneSame thing here17:56
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CyberKitsuneI looked at it and it looks like it was either moved or removed17:56
CyberKitsuneidk for sure17:56
jeff8080CyberKitsune: was 4.3 pulled from the repos?17:56
jeff8080CyberKitsune: where did you find information, there where no announcments at kubuntu.org17:57
DragnslcrYes, 4.3.0 was pulled from the backports PPA while they prepare the packages for 4.3.117:57
CyberKitsunefffffffffffffffffffff17:57
CyberKitsuneWhen will everything be up again?17:57
jeff8080Dragnslcr: Is 4.3 to be moved to the main repo now?17:58
DragnslcrCyberKitsune- Probably a day or two. 4.3.1 is supposed to be released by the KDE team tomorrow17:58
Dragnslcrjeff8080- not that I know of17:58
CyberKitsuneKDE 4.2 is giving me tons of drawing bugs, I want to see if 4.3.0 will fix them but, ^17:58
CyberKitsuneI used to be a KDE 3 junkie, when kde 4.0 came out, I stepped away and went to gnome17:59
CyberKitsune4.2 reclaimed the desktop though, I can see that.17:59
CyberKitsuneIMO however, the package manager that comes with Kubntu is designed badly18:01
jeff8080CyberKitsune: Agreed18:01
DragnslcrKPackageKit?18:01
BluesKajCyberKitsune, jeff8080 , it's real flaky, unreliable ...aptitude is the way to go IMO18:02
jeff8080BluesKaj: yea but aptitude is ugly :)18:02
* CyberKitsune apt-get's aptitude18:02
DragnslcrUnfortunately, the KDE4 version of Adept was pretty bad, so they had to switch to KPackageKit, which is less bad18:02
BluesKajugly, how ?it's just cli18:02
cortry synaptic18:03
jeff8080cor: is syn happy in kubuntu.. I thoguht their where issues18:03
corvery18:03
shadeslayeri think kpackagekit is good for normal use,except when you have dist-upgrades.... then its aptitude all the way....18:03
jeff8080cor: thats silly then.. they should just use syn by default.. unless Kubuntu Devs have issues with gtk apps18:04
DragnslcrYeah, KPackageKit not handling dist-upgrade is a problem18:04
Dragnslcrjeff8080- synaptic is a Gnome program, so it would never be used in a default KDE installation unless there was no KDE equivalent18:04
BluesKajshadeslayer, no itdoesn't bring depenencies along as well as aptitude or even synaptic , some ppl are sticking with adept18:04
corI generally install updated from the shell, but for searching, all other operations, synaptic is great. I have it running on three separate *ubuntu distros here. flawless18:04
shadeslayerBluesKaj: hmm.... it brought dependicies on the last upgrade i did.....18:05
jeff8080Dragnslcr: ahh.. so the devs don't like gtk apps :) Fair enough18:05
corI have adept running on the desktop machine, too. it's not bad.18:05
corbut really, for the actual updating peeps, use the shell18:06
DragnslcrBluesKaj- I've never had a problem with getting dependencies from KPackageKit. The only major issue is that it always does upgrade instead of dist-upgrade, so you can't do things like kernel updates18:06
CyberKitsuneIs there one package that has all the build tools? I haven't used *ubuntu in a while18:06
corKPackageKit I avoid like the plague it is18:06
* jeff8080 is searching for his fedora 11 cd18:06
DragnslcrThe KDE4 version of Adept has a severely broken search function18:06
shadeslayerive  never properly used KDE 3.x and i started from 4.x so idk what the fuss is all about :P18:07
reboot_kde3.5 was great kde4 is buggy and is too different from kde and resembles gnome and windows too much18:08
cormake an alias for "sudo aptitude install", mine is "sai"18:08
shadeslayerlol18:09
cor;o)18:09
corover the course of a year, that can save you HOURS!18:09
corand that's time you could be doing better things with!18:09
shadeslayercor: i just use tab complete18:09
BluesKajshadeslayer, Dragnslcr , i'm saying packagekit is unreliable dependency-wise , I'm sure it works sometimes :)18:09
corshadeslayer, too slow!18:10
reboot_i can compile a list over other things that have been suposed to save those hours18:10
shadeslayerBluesKaj: ive only used it twice so i wouldnt know about the problems....its worked both times ive used it18:10
coryeah, but good aliases actually do save huge amounts of time. if you use the shell alot, that is18:10
CyberKitsuneWell, I'm plesently surprised how well Kubuntu was working out of the box with my Intel MacBook18:11
CyberKitsuneSuSE had NOTHING18:11
reboot_sorry i missread, a good alias for aptitude might be good18:11
shadowhywindhay all, I am trying to setup a network printer via cups. I get to the steps of adding cupsys user to shadows, however the user cupsys does not exist, any ideas?18:12
coranother super handy thing is a folder view in your panel, with .desktop files of LINKs to locations you need to get to a lot18:12
shadeslayershadowhywind: make one?18:12
coranother for files you need to edit a lot, with the editors included in the command18:12
shadowhywindshadeslayer: any special flags or anything do I need to add?18:13
reboot_plasma is one of the things that make me waste hours18:13
corsheesh! I've had a week off already from the time those folder views have saved me this Summer18:13
reboot_and it is still to unstable18:13
shadeslayershadowhywind: ive never used cups :P , so dunno...18:13
shadowhywindshadeslayer: ah, thanks18:14
shadeslayershadowhywind: did you see the !cups factoid ?18:14
coris the user cupsys reuired?18:14
corcups should be easy these days18:14
corI put in a lexmark almost without thinking. a LEXMARK!18:15
BluesKajjust got SP2 for Vista on our Windows machines here , taken over an hr already18:15
shadowhywind!cups18:15
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows18:15
shadowhywindshadeslayer: now I have, hehe18:15
shadeslayer:P18:15
BluesKajcor, which lexmark model ?18:16
corZ60518:16
corshadeslayer, are you using the web interface?18:16
shadeslayercor: for irc? nope irssi18:17
corfor cups18:17
BluesKajgeneric driver or lexmark proprietary18:17
shadeslayercor: oh heh,like i said ive used cups18:17
corhttp://localhost:631/printers/18:17
corBlueEagle, lexmark driver, I presume18:17
shadeslayeri know about that though18:18
corit was an rpm I converted18:18
BluesKajoh that, din't work as a netprinter , wasn't detected18:18
* shadeslayer wonders why ktorrent wasnt updated 9.1018:19
corthe ppa is best for ktorrent18:19
shadeslayer+in18:19
shadeslayercor: git ftw18:19
CyberKitsunegit18:19
CyberKitsuneno18:19
CyberKitsunesvn18:19
corv 3.2.118:19
BluesKajwife's vista pc has a lexmark 5470 , and i tried to use it as netprinter for the laptop , no luck18:19
corscrew that18:19
shadeslayerCyberKitsune: git is updated more regularly18:20
CyberKitsunegit is way too confusing though18:20
CyberKitsunesvn is simplier18:20
shadeslayerCyberKitsune: yeah,but updating in git is easier....18:20
CyberKitsuneWhy am I getting drawing errors?18:21
shadeslayeri have to find out the frigging link of the svn to update18:21
corI switched to kubuntu so I didn't have to waste time messing with stuff like that anymore. auto-update alll the way!18:21
shadeslayerCyberKitsune: cuz you dont know how to draw?18:21
CyberKitsuneevery now in then parts of a window just... dissappears and shows the background18:21
CyberKitsunethen I move said window18:21
BluesKajshadeslayer, yeah svn up doesn't find my working copy and neither can I :)18:21
CyberKitsuneand it comes back... alittle18:21
CyberKitsuneany help?18:21
CyberKitsunethe toolbar in Knonqueror just turned black >.>18:22
shadeslayerBluesKaj: whats in your svn folder? whole of KDE??18:22
coractually, I was in error. I checked - my ktorrent came directly from their betas. I must have needed a feature!18:24
corthey do *ubuntu packages18:24
BluesKajshadeslayer, my subversion folder ?18:25
BluesKajjust the usual stuff that come s with sourced pkg18:26
shadeslayerBluesKaj: i have a seprate folder for SVN co18:26
BluesKajshadeslayer, got a path ?18:27
shadeslayerBluesKaj: yeah, ~/Desktop/SVN/18:27
BluesKajisn't there a std path that contains svn sfter it's installed ..desktop doesn't seem kosher18:29
shadeslayeroh... you mean the part where it automatically makes a folder xyz and puts the source into it18:30
BluesKajI went to svn site for some advice and got the old RTFM response , so i told the guy why don't they just setup a bot that responds to the questions with that answer so they occupants there don't have to waste their time :)18:31
jeff8080hey guys.. Im being lazy. how do I go about installing neccesary non-free codecs and video support in kubuntu18:31
shadeslayerjeff8080: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras18:32
BluesKaj!medibuntu18:32
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:32
jeff8080shadeslayer: thanks :)18:32
corsudo aptitude -y install kubuntu-restricted-extras18:32
coroops!18:33
shadeslayerktorrent is finally building18:33
corhard to believe someone made a torrent client better than uTorrent18:33
shadeslayerheh18:34
corsure, they achieved this by basically copying it, but hey!18:34
corwho cares!18:34
corhas anyone come across a uTorrent > kTorrent RSS filter converter?18:34
coractually, gonna copy-paste that around methinks18:35
BluesKajcor , actually utorrent runs well in wine on linux18:35
coreew!18:35
BluesKaji used for a while before ktorrent was dev'd18:36
corbut now it IS!18:36
cordeveloped18:36
jeff8080cor: Ever hear of rtorrent.. Beautiful and lightweight, coupled with flexget rss hadnler and the wtorrent web gui frontend and your box will automatically  search for and download all your favorite tv episodes, new music releases, movies etc18:36
franz_Totally new to Kubuntu 9.04 after years running KDE3 versions. How the hell can I put icons (for programs) on my desktop ? I am totally confused!18:36
BluesKajwell, just some info18:36
corI've played with it jeff8080, ypu.18:36
corkTorrent does this, too18:36
phhfranz_: just drag and drop them ...18:36
BluesKajfranz_, in the kmenu right click on the app18:36
franz_phh: drag from where?  You mean i must create a link and then bring it onto the desktop?18:37
jeff8080cor: the flexget client is much more powerful then ktorrents simple rss agregator, for example, when a new movie is relaesed flex will check it against imdb.com for user ratings and determine whether or not the movie is good enough to download18:37
phhfranz_: "start" menu18:37
shadeslayeromg i just realised im in #kubuntu and not #ubuntu+1 :P18:37
franz_ok thanks phh and BluesKaj18:38
shadeslayerand thats the 2nd time thats happened to me today18:38
corjeff8080, the idea of a computer choosing which movies I should watch makes me shudder18:38
phhcor: it won't do any guessing, it'll just match your regexps (or alike.)18:39
corall I need is to be able to say "get every episode of Better Off Ted, as soon as it is available. or whatever18:39
jeff8080cor: lol agreed... Ive been awarded with some bombs, but it is actual user submission, "pop-culture" that makes the final say, not that that is any better18:39
f0ster_hello, I have smb, and I try to connect to a share via konqueror address bar, but it always says permission denied, even though I have the right credentials, has anyone else had this problem ?18:39
correally, in all things, simplicity is my number one criteria18:40
jeff8080cor Automation is king :)18:40
corf0ster_, try cifs18:40
BluesKajf0ster_, try dolphin / network18:40
corjeff8080, hell yeas!18:40
f0ster_what do you mean, network ?18:40
f0ster_cor, using mount with -t cifs ?18:41
coroh yeah!he's using konq! I cannot believe I missed the chance to sell dolphin!18:42
BluesKajf0ster_, it's under places in dolphin18:42
f0ster_problem is, I only know the domain name of it on the network, i don't know the specific share name, like share.whatever.com is what I have18:42
corf0ster_, if it's a resource you use a lot, mount it into a directory with fstab18:42
corotherwise cifs://server/share/18:42
coror smb://whatever18:43
coris smb still supported?18:43
BluesKajyes18:43
f0ster_hmm my credentials don't seem to work via dolphin/network either18:43
cormounting is way smarter, though18:43
corare you sure you are using the right credentials?18:43
f0ster_aha, I had to put my windows domain in first18:44
f0ster_xxx\user18:44
corjust user18:44
coris it a resource you expect to use a lot???18:44
f0ster_cor, no, for my credentials to work, i had to login with the windows domain18:45
corthey worked? cool!18:45
f0ster_yep, once I put in my domain name18:45
cornext!18:45
f0ster_I remember I've had the same problem in windows on other networks18:46
corif they share the same workgroup name, it's usually automatic18:46
coryou still didn't answer my question18:46
BluesKajhmm, i just get a rquest for username & pw18:46
f0ster_cor: if i plan on using it much? fairly often yes18:46
corTHEN MOUNT IT!18:46
f0ster_cor: i don't know the share name18:47
corall this smb:// malarkey is for amateurs, and one-time access18:47
f0ster_just the domain name18:47
corif you mount the box, you can see the shares18:47
corbrowse, rather18:47
coris the windows box not yours?18:47
BluesKajcor, capitals aren't necessary , and mounting windows shares can be iffy especilly with vista18:48
corpfff18:48
corwhen people are wasting TIME, then yes, capitals are necessary.18:48
corskip straight to plan A18:48
f0ster_cor: correct18:49
cormy time, I don't mind. I'm here by choice, for fun. but every minute spent fighting some technical issue is time wasted, if you are fighting the WRONG issue18:50
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BluesKajcor,  i use smb all the time , and it works fine ...if you wanna be a pro then explain to us plebes how to mount it in the dir with fstab :)18:50
cornp18:50
corFirst, you need a share on the other box that you have access to, obviously18:51
corthen make a directory somewhere18:51
corthen create a credentials file in your home folder18:51
corlet's call it ~/.smbpasswd18:51
cortouch ~/.smbpasswd18:51
corso far so good?18:52
corin that file put two lines of text18:52
corusername=YOURNAME18:52
corpassword=YOURPASSWord18:52
corsave and chmod 60018:53
corthen edit /etc/fstab as root18:53
apparlecor: Now our college has disabled static ip..........how should I reconfigure interfaces file........................should I just remove the address,mask,gateway lines??18:54
corit's best to use the cifs protocol, so you may need to install one extra package18:54
cordisabled static IP ? huh?18:54
corwe haven't *done* anything yet!18:55
apparlecor: Yesterday you helped me setup a static ip address with interfaces file :)18:55
jeff8080Newb question: the version of kde-jockey on backports is seg faulting on my system.. how can I choose the version to install using apt18:55
corahhh yesterday! sheesh! ok, gimme a minute18:56
corright, still on cifs...18:56
corsudo aptitude -y install smbfs18:56
corif you don't have that already18:56
apparlecor: For me??18:56
jeff8080apparle: yup18:56
apparlecor: ok i install smbfs then18:57
dverweire_apparle: no, that was not for you. :)18:57
corkewl. now all you need is a single line in fstab for each share18:57
apparlejeff8080: ..18:57
corheh, no, for jeff8080!18:57
dverweire_apparle: unless you are trying to get samba shares hooked up.18:57
reboot_is there any way to make ctrl+alt+backspace work again? without instaling any extra script18:58
corheheh18:58
cor/SERVER/SHARENAME/PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINTcifscredentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 018:58
cor  //SERVER/SHARENAME/PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINTcifscredentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 018:58
corit stol the first forward slash, so I added a cpl spaces18:58
corbut that's it. next time you boot, it should be mounted. or simply do..18:58
corsudo mount /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT18:58
apparlereboot_: do you mind using 'AltGr+SysRq+k'18:59
cor*umount, rather18:59
corooh !! i was right the first time. sorry. got an annoying guest atm!18:59
reboot_while i would not mind much i still think the old vertion is better if possible19:00
coralso: sudo mount -a -t cifs should do it, too19:00
corwhich basically mounts all the cifs shares in your fstab. umount works the same way, so you can mount/unmount them all in one go, if required19:01
dverweire_reboot_: did you try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html?19:01
correboot, yes19:01
corit';s in system settings, display19:01
coror you can add a wee stanza to xorg.conf19:01
BluesKajcor, ok yousaid , then edit /etc/fstab as root..and exactly what edit am i looking to do ?19:01
corjust add that one line19:02
jeff8080Sorry for another newb question.. Just not used to apt yet.. How can I use apt to list all available versions of a given package.19:02
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corbrb19:02
reboot_no, thank19:02
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corahh! peace at last!19:07
apparlecor: my problem?19:07
cornow I can concentrate19:07
corsheesh!19:07
coraye, nae bother19:07
corone sec while I make a smoke, but type away19:07
geniijeff8080: apt-cache policy <packagename>19:08
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corapparle, dude! you'll need to refresh me memory.19:10
apparlecor: pastebinnig wait19:11
cornp19:11
apparlecor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/262657/19:13
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BluesKajdunno , but smb is working well here , this fstab mounting seems unecessary to me , trying to figure out the fstab parameters is too confusing19:14
corapparle,  hmm. assuming the comnents aren't part of it, it looks fine.19:17
corBlueEagle, just exactly what I pasted works fine. nothing to figure out19:17
coronce mounted, you can access the folder *exactly* like it was a local folder. ~/Documents, for me, is the same place, nomatter what machine I'm using.19:18
corfor example19:18
corif you wanna use smb:// that's okay, but I'm just saying, it's worth the effort to get it mounted properly.19:19
corthen you never have to think about it again.19:19
corat least, use cifs:// in dolphin, though, it's faster19:20
apparlecor: But you missed the point..........now I want to remove the static ip system19:23
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corso replace all that with one line. Wham!19:23
coriface eth0 inet dhcp19:23
corafter auto eth019:24
apparlecor: ok............thanks19:24
coryou didn't read that man page, did ya?19:24
corthat was rhetorical19:24
corif you do ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0, it will use the new settings19:25
apparlecor: I read it but I just wanted to confirm.....................not so used to linux :)19:25
cornp dude19:25
Pavelhelp needed w/ samba configuration/printing19:26
apparlecor: thanks19:26
cornp19:26
corPavel, just ask19:26
Pavelstuff ain't printing, basically.  Trying to print wirelessly to an hp...19:27
apparlecor: Just asking what is the default system for internet..........DHCP??19:27
corapparle, it depends on the system/ISP/OS/who you ask.19:27
Pavelcor: I've been through the localhost:631 thing and my computer is definitely recognizing the printer, but nothing gets put out19:28
corDHCP is usually the default setup on new OS, though.19:28
corPavel, what does the error log say?19:28
Pavelthere's no error log, just inactivity19:28
corPavel, there is *always* an error log!19:28
corsee /var/log/19:29
coror Alt-F1 to bring up the Kickoff menu and type logs19:29
cor<enter>19:29
apparlecor: If I have kubutnu fresh install and just connected the LAN wire...........then what is the ethernet configuration?? Just for knowledge19:30
Pavelcor: alright, which files should I be looking for?19:30
Pavelrather, which log am I looking for?19:31
corapparle, like most OS, kubuntu comes setup for DHCP by default19:31
corPavel, cups?19:31
Pavelnothing19:31
corapparle, it's the setting most likely to get a user connected, see19:32
nithello pple.... noob here.... can someone show me around??19:32
nit:P19:32
corPavel, there isn't a "cups" folder in there???19:32
apparlecor: ok thanks...............and what settings the network manager uses as default?19:32
corapparle, the first thing I do in a fresh install is remove network manager, so I dunno19:33
corbut it should use dhcp19:33
Pavelcor, okay got it19:33
cornit, show you areound what?19:33
corbrb19:33
BluesKajcor you posted this //SERVER/SHARENAME/PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINTcifscredentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 019:34
corexcept with tabs. hmm19:35
corI'll do it with spaces, one sec19:35
BluesKajserver is ? sharename is ? path to mountpoint is what ? cifs credentials is what ?19:35
cor //SERVER/SHARENAME    /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT    cifs    credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 019:36
BluesKajdoesn't tell me anything19:36
corwow19:36
nityeah wow....19:36
BluesKajdunno anythingh about stab19:37
nithey btw whats it doing samba config??19:37
corwhat can I say. it's a line of text. you put it in /etc/fstab, replaceing my obvious generic details with your own19:37
corand then save19:37
BluesKajyou guys can wow if you want , but it doesn't help19:37
Pavelnit, what's your problem?19:37
corwhat can I add? what's confusing? seriously, tell me!19:38
nitwell i do have one... kde just freezes on my laptop.....19:38
Pavelnit, are you dual-booting it with anything?  What version of kde are you running?19:38
corSERVER = the machine with the shares you want to access19:39
nitno  dual boot ...19:39
nitkde 4...19:39
corSHARENAME = the name of the share ON that server, maybe "Share", or "Documents", who knows what you/they called it19:39
Pavelnit, I assume you're running kubuntu 9.04, right19:39
BluesKajserver is windows pc right? / sharename would be windows shares or C:\ if the whole drive is shared ..so far ?19:39
nitubuntu with kde pack.....19:40
htrejhhi19:40
cor /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT is the actual path of an actual folder on your system, empty, and waiting to have a remote volume mounted IN to it19:40
htrejhi got a second HDD (on IDE), how can i access it with dolphin?19:40
htrejhdoesnt it mount automatically?19:40
nitdoes that matter btw?? havent heard anywhere ?19:40
htrejhstrange it worked before when it was in ntfs :s19:40
niti mean keeping both gnome and kde together?19:40
corcredentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd is that credentials file we made; plain text with two simple lines, username and password19:40
Pavelnit, it shouldn't necessarily, but you are giving your computer a little more work to do than just running straight kubuntu19:41
dverweire_cor: did you discuss using smb4k with BluesKaj?19:41
nityeah that i am....19:41
cornope19:41
dverweire_is that an option?19:41
corthe idea is to get the share mounted transparently19:41
corfor simple access, dolphin is fine19:41
Pavelnit, is there anything specific causing the freezing?  Does it happen with a certain program?19:41
dverweire_as long long as smb4k starts when the kde session does, then it will be transparently mounted.19:41
corsmb4k is handy for raiding the local community WiFi network, though!19:42
BluesKajdverweire_, I use smb already , cor thinks using an fstab mountpoint is easier19:42
nitjust today i had a kdevelop  open and the moment i started konversation ...bang.....19:42
corthe system is using it anyway, to mount your hard drive volumes19:42
corit makes most sense, and for me at least, is waay easier than these other methods19:42
Pavelnit, do you know how much available memory you have?19:43
htrejhplease, how can i browse my second HDD?19:43
dverweire_BluesKaj: smb4k mounts shares the same way setting them up in fstab does. the only differences is that fstab will be loaded at system start and smb4k only sets them up when you log into kde19:43
nitbtw by freezing i mean complete freez .....the mouse pointer can move  and nothing else...19:43
coranother reason not to use it for this!19:43
corheh19:43
BluesKajcor, done that with smb , already ...got a neighbour with unsecured wifi, unbelievable19:43
nityeah 512   mb  ram ... on a lenovo thinkpad......19:43
corman! it's crazy the amount of open shares there are out there!19:43
* cor like to leave wee notes19:44
Pavelcor, are you available again? I saw you were going in a few directions...19:44
nitnot enough for kde 4?19:44
coralways around somewhere, dude!19:44
corhow do the logs look?19:45
BluesKajdverweire_, yeah I used the smb4k browser gui in the past , worked ok , smb with konqeror or dolphin works ok too19:45
coranything obvious?19:45
corcifs, people!19:45
corit is F A S T E R19:45
Pavelcor, it's mostly 'found printer' notifications19:45
corno errors?19:45
Pavelnot that I can see..19:46
PavelI've had a document pending for 40 minutes and someone else successfully printed within that span19:46
dverweire_BluesKaj: i use smb4k to mount my shares everyday. it starts when kde starts and remembers the shares i last mounted. not need to modify fstab. but then again, you only get those mounts when you start kde19:46
BluesKajdverweire_, smb4k has come along way since dapper :)19:46
dverweire_BluesKaj: so it works great if you are a desktop gui user, not so much if you prefer the tty command line.19:46
Pavelcor so I don't think it's an error so much as a connection problem19:47
corin Linux, there is always more than one way to skin a cat. I love that. so long as we know about *all* the ways, we can choose the pne we prefer19:47
corPavel, are you sure your credentials are correct? have you successfully pronted to the hp before?19:47
BluesKajdverweire_, I use both cli and gui , but I do prefer cli for most installs and updates etc19:47
Pavelcor, I found some 'no authentication provided' logs...19:47
coraha!19:47
Pavelcor, I've printed a test page from printer configuration in the past but that's it19:48
corcheck you are using your username IN the url for the printer19:48
cori.e. soandso@host/doodah19:48
corit's been a while since I've printed over samba, but I remember having to do that myself19:49
Pavelset that up in samba you mean?19:49
corI use lpd these days, easier19:49
corin the printer configuration, yeah19:49
Pavelhey, if you have recommendations I'll hear them...19:49
corhttp://localhost:631/printers/19:49
dverweire_BluesKaj: lol. i'm sure it has. i started using it in gutsy, and it's come a long way since then.19:49
nithey pple i want to reconfigure my mouse buttons ....can smone point out the right channel to go to?19:49
nitor cor do u wanna have a looksee?19:50
Pavelcor, alright, how should I go through that site?  I have the printer found...19:51
corI haven't configured buttons in X for like a decade. so erm I'll pass19:51
corsite?19:51
Pavelcor, er, localhost.19:51
nityeah ..k ...19:51
corthat's the CUPS configuration19:51
corI thought you knew about that!19:52
coroh well! rake around there for a minute.19:52
dverweire_BluesKaj: i just want to be clear in case you didn't know that using smb4k allows you to access the smb shares from cli, just like fstab does.19:52
coror at least, it can be setup to act this way19:53
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hagabakais there a command to restore the display resolution when a program changed it?19:58
nicklas_hey, the built in compiz manager in kubuntu works out of the box, or i have to install some plugin to get effects working?20:02
Laeborgis ATI Radeon HD 4650 good supported in kubuntu 9.04 ?20:03
shafqathagabaka: you can use krandrtray for the systray program or xrandr for command line20:05
hagabakathanks20:06
shafqatno problem :)20:06
shafqatnicklas_: Kubuntu uses KWin instead of compiz. And it does work out of the box. Go to System Settings>Desktop>Desktop Effects>All Effects to see the effects available.20:07
nicklas_shafqat: ok :-) goodie20:09
nicklas_shafqat: i had some faint memory that it didnt, but maybe i remember it wrong :-P20:09
nicklas_shafqat: ive gotten tired of gnome a little bit, so wanna run kde for a while instead20:10
shafqathehe. I understand ;)20:10
noquinhohow do i instal xmms ?20:10
nicklas_its hard to find the perfect window manager20:10
nicklas_noquinho: package manager or sudo apt-get install xmms in konsole20:11
shafqatnicklas_: I guess it depends what you want in a WM20:11
nicklas_shafqat: yeah20:12
muskaotikcan someone tell me how mount my Iphone plz ? i plug it into usb and he his not recognized20:12
nicklas_shafqat: ive tried openbox and fluxbox too, but they are a little too basic for me20:12
noquinhonicklas,,, i did20:12
nicklas_noquinho: then what is the problem?20:12
shafqatKWin is looking pretty good coming up though. Two GSoC projects were on it this year. There should be tabbing and tiling support for it in KDE 4.420:12
nicklas_shafqat: :-D20:13
noquinhoi have a folder here . Xmms 1.2.1120:13
noquinhobut i dont know how to install20:13
nicklas_noquinho: is it .tar.gz ?20:13
noquinhohold on please20:13
noquinhoyes20:14
nicklas_noquinho: that is source files, you need to compile them first and then install them manually, it is easier ways to install programs20:14
nicklas_noquinho: do as i said, either open the gui for the package manager, search for xmms and install it, or in console, write sudo apt-get install xmms and then enter20:15
nicklas_for konsole you need to know your root/user password20:16
noquinhook, i will20:16
noquinhoi did, but he says the package xmms is not available20:20
spacelimehello!20:24
spacelimecould someone help me getting sound to work?20:25
spacelimeit workes fine everywher except in browsers20:25
corso maybe the question should be, "can someone help me get my browser to work?", except an actual question, of course20:27
BluesKajcor ,the fstab edit :  /margaret-pc/C:/users/margaret ~/Vista /home/kaj/.smbpassword,rw,uid=kaj,gid=adm 0 0   how does that look to you ?20:27
corit looks bad20:27
BluesKajhehe20:27
corthe C:/ bits aren't necessary, every share has a "name"20:27
cor //SERVER/SHARE20:28
spacelimecor... eeer.. thank you, that was helpful20:28
corand for the mount point I've not tried ~/relative linking20:28
corI'd stick to /home/kaj/Vista20:29
corand double-check the spelling of your credentials file20:29
corTHEN it should work!20:30
corremember to chmod 600 ~/name-of-samba-credentials-file20:30
coryou don't want any tom dick and harry reading your password20:30
BluesKajyeah , done that20:30
BluesKajwhat about spaces between the slashes20:31
coralso, the "cifs" part is missing20:31
cor!20:31
cornever spaces between slashes, only between the entries20:32
BluesKajuhoh , where20:32
shadowhywindhay all, I am trying to connect my printer with samba, when i try to add it as a printer in windows, It asks for username/password and then just says'you don't have access to the printer. any ideas?20:32
BluesKajcifs i mean20:32
cor //SERVER/SHARENAME    /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT    cifs    credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 020:32
corshadowhywind, is the printer attached to the kubuntu box?20:33
spacelimehmm.... wonder if it could have to do with flash? is flash player only for flash content or does it play for example .ogg? i'm trying to figure out what player is running when i drop an ogg file in firefox20:33
corpirefox prefs20:33
cor*f20:33
shadowhywindcor: yes, going to the web admin page, I can print a test page, on both kubuntu on windows20:33
spacelimecor: i checked the prefs but strangely enough it's just about 6 entries for filetypes and .ogg is not listed...20:34
corshadowhywind, did you try supplying a username and password?20:34
corspacelime, strange! add it, then.20:34
shadowhywindcor: yes, and nothing I have tried seams to work20:34
a\whois paris20:34
spacelimejust swf, spl and a few more20:34
corshadowhywind, did you try adding the username into the url.. name@host20:35
corinstead of just host20:35
shadowhywindcor: that I have not tried20:35
shadowhywindcor: would it be username@host:631/printers/...20:35
corerm, no20:35
corthat's the cups page on your own machine20:36
corI mean in the URL *of* the printer20:36
shadowhywindcor: now I am confused, in windows "print wizard" the URL i am using is, http://host_ip/printers/printer_name. Is that not correct?20:37
shadowhywindopps sorry for the false link20:37
corI don't have windows around anymore, but when I did, I found the easiest way to get them all using the same printer, was to put it on the windows box, and add/remove (add!) UNIX print services, then it's drop-dead simple with lpd20:37
cordunno dude, it may be.20:38
corwhatever it is, add the user into it!20:38
jipang_menjerithi everyone20:38
shadowhywindcor: lol20:38
jipang_menjeritwant to ask something20:39
jipang_menjeritwhy my Kubuntu can't mount XP ntfs hard drive?20:39
coreven with samba, it's usually easier if the printer is on the windows box, I've found20:39
corjipang_menjerit, it can!20:39
jipang_menjeritcor: but I got error20:39
jipang_menjeritdon't know why20:40
corokay, but that doesn't mean it *can't* do it20:40
corthat just means it *isn't* doing it20:40
jipang_menjeriterr..20:40
jipang_menjeritmy mistake :p20:40
corwhat was the error exactly?20:40
jipang_menjeritnot sure20:40
jipang_menjeritwait..I copy the error20:40
corwell, not sure how to help, then20:40
corgood!20:40
corbrb20:41
jipang_menjerit[ 4808.870361] snd: bad kfree (called from f96bb430)20:41
alucardromeroHello everyboy! :)20:42
alucardromeroeverybody*20:42
jipang_menjerit:)20:43
alucardromeroAny reason why Kubuntu 9.04 doesn't recognize my other partitions on install's partition manager?20:43
BoumBoumcleaning20:44
BoumBoumthats what i m on about20:44
corjipang_menjerit, looks like the drive needs fixed. maybe try ntfsfix (or better, boot into windows and check it)20:45
jipang_menjeritcor: already done it..but still the same20:45
jipang_menjeritin fact, I can mount it in gnome20:45
jipang_menjeritI'm using 9.1020:46
corthat error, are you sure that's the one from the ntfs mount?20:46
corwhat are you doing to mount it?20:46
jipang_menjeritit's my XP hard drive20:47
coryeah20:47
jipang_menjeritjust need to grab some files in there20:47
jipang_menjeritbut after I upgrade it to 9.1020:47
jipang_menjeritthis thing happened20:47
corgnome uses the same tools to mount ntfs as kde!20:47
jipang_menjeritthat's why I'm confused20:48
corcan you *still* mount it in gnome? after the upgrade?20:48
jipang_menjeritso, asking the pros20:48
jipang_menjerityup20:48
corweird20:48
corso, how are you mouning it?20:48
jipang_menjeriterr, just click the partition in Dolphin20:49
Riddell** in 10 minutes there will be a tutorial in writing Plasmoids in Python in #ubuntu-classroom20:49
user____hi!20:49
corand I'm no pro with ntfs, I only mounted my first one in Linux last week!20:49
corjipang_menjerit, and where did you get that error message?20:49
jipang_menjeritcor: dmesg20:49
user____I was so bumb to manrually rm a seamonkey directory. and now I cannot use apt-get anymore. Can somebody help?20:49
cortry running dolhin from a terminal, and then click the partition. you may get more informative errors20:50
corpersonally, I'd start with re-installing the ntfs stuff, fuse and all20:50
jipang_menjeritok20:50
user____apt-get does not install other aps ,as I first want's to complete the deinstall and aborts with error messages for semonkey.  post-removal script gives error code 1 and 12720:52
coralso, if you logout and into gnome, you could mount it, and check mtab, see how it mounted. logout and back to kde, it should still be mounted.20:52
user____any way to solve that?20:52
cormaybe re-install apt from the original CD .deb20:52
user____but I think the prob is not apt itself but the missing direcotries and files from seamonkey that I had deleted manuall,y. so a new apt would also fail to delete them20:53
corsure, but I', thinking apt installing will fix any such problems20:53
corjust a wild hunch20:54
jipang_menjeritcor: I just found this error message20:54
user____how do i install apt without apt?20:54
jipang_menjeritError: "/tmp/ksocket-skyvalve" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.20:54
corgood question!20:54
corthat's what makes it so wild!20:54
jipang_menjeriterk?20:55
jipang_menjeritany explaination?20:55
jhutchinsIs there a ppc version of kubuntu?20:55
user____is there no way to tell apt to only remove what he finds still from this package and ignore things already removed?? I tried also suo apt-get -f check  - no success20:55
corinstall apt-get20:55
coryou tried sudo aptitiude ?20:56
user____cor: same there20:57
corjipang_menjerit, sorry, just spotted your error message. strange permission error for /tmp !20:58
corhave you rebooted since the upgrade?20:58
jipang_menjeritcor: yup..actually I've upgraded it since alpha 220:59
jipang_menjeritnohing happened untull upgrade to alpha 320:59
jipang_menjerit*untill20:59
user____yes20:59
coryou do realize you are running beta test version of OS. right?20:59
jipang_menjeritcor: yup..but mu laptot that running same version did not make this problem21:00
* jipang_menjerit lot's of typo21:00
corit's just that expecting the usual troubleshooting steps is less useful with beta releases. "something broke" is the answer!21:03
cor*to work21:03
jipang_menjeritcor: nvm..maybe need to wait new upgrade21:04
jipang_menjeritcor: thanks for helping21:04
corit sounds like a permissions promlem that deleting that folder would fix. but that should happen at reboot21:04
coris it asking for authorisation?21:05
jipang_menjeritcor: nope21:05
corI need to give root authentication to mount ntfs in kde21:05
cormaybe it's sending the wrong auth in the background. check your wallet21:05
jipang_menjeritok21:06
corI put them in fstab now ;o)21:06
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noquinhohow do i install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz from my desktop ?21:08
BluesKajwell , cor, no luck yet with fstab21:08
jipang_menjeritlol21:08
corBlueEagle, are you getting errors?21:08
coroops! ferkin auto-complete!21:09
corBluesKaj, are you getting errors?21:09
BluesKajnot getting anything in the Vista folder21:10
coryeah, but what does it say if you try to mount it from a shell?21:10
cormount -a -t cifs21:11
corsudo..21:11
jipang_menjeritcor: just the same..got same error21:11
corthat was for BluesKaj sorry.21:12
BluesKajcor ,mount ~/Vista  [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab ,  mount: can't find /home/kaj/Vista in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab21:12
corso you add a newline on /etc/fstab and try again21:13
jipang_menjeritcor: yup..i see..but I already check the wallet..just the same21:13
corALWAYS have an extra newline at the end of all UNIX config files21:13
corjipang_menjerit, try sudo -H dolphin21:14
jipang_menjerit<unknown program name>(6675)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server:  "//bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified21:16
BluesKajcor , what text would this new line contain ?21:16
corBluesKaj, nothing, just hit enter one time after all the existing text21:16
BluesKajnow he tells me ..oh lord21:16
corit *must* contain nothing21:16
corit's standard unix practice21:16
corApchache falls over with it, lots of things21:17
corthe only files I don't terminate, are php21:17
cornothing goes outside those tags!21:18
noquinhohow do i install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz from my desktop ?21:20
jipang_menjeritnoquinho: already extract it?21:20
jipang_menjeritcor: found this error21:21
jipang_menjerit<unknown program name>(6675)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server:  "//bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified21:21
noquinhoyes21:21
jipang_menjeritnoquinho: I'm not really sure about this21:22
jipang_menjeritnoquinho: why don't you try audacious21:22
jipang_menjerit?21:22
jipang_menjerit:P21:22
noquinhobecause i need xmms to run gtkpod21:23
jipang_menjeriti see21:23
[-Haza-]Hey folks. I need to install a library. When i do sudo apt-get install libstdc++ and hit tab (to check it ecists in the rep) i get the library i want. When i goto install it i get the message: E: Couldn't find package libstdc21:23
[-Haza-]Its like its lookign for the wrong package? :s21:23
[-Haza-]Any thoughts?21:23
jipang_menjeritnoquinho: try to config it firdt21:25
jipang_menjerit*first21:25
corjipang_menjerit, that's too strange for me. I'd reinstall the ntfs stuff21:25
jipang_menjeritcor: haha..actually..it is strange..21:26
jipang_menjeritmaybe I should wait for the beta version21:26
corI only ever put the alphas and betas on spare machines, for this very reason21:27
corand even then, a full backup beforehand!21:27
jipang_menjeritcor: yeah..actually I kind fun help Kubuntu developer by submitting bugs21:28
jipang_menjerit:p21:28
Lelousiushi21:28
coryou might want to ask in #kde, too, there are smarter tech-heads than me in there!21:28
corI gotta dash to the shops, bbiab21:29
Lelousiusi have a problem .. i want to install the realtek sound drivers ..but the old ones are allways there when i restart21:29
corblacklist!21:29
corl*rz..21:29
jipang_menjeritcor: good idea..but maybe another time..21:29
jipang_menjeritneed some rest..ti's 4am here21:29
jipang_menjerit*it's21:29
Lelousiusany idea?21:30
jipang_menjeritLelousius: blacklist it21:31
Lelousiushow?21:31
jipang_menjeritLelousius: sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist21:32
jipang_menjeritthen, paste the driver there..at the bottom line21:32
alexandernstI'm trying to upgrade pyqt4 bindings but python-qt4-common will be removed if I do so. Whats going on? (I'm on 9.04 x64)21:33
jipang_menjeritalexandernst: not really sure about that21:33
Lelousiusso i'll type "HDA STI SB"  ?21:33
jipang_menjerit:p21:33
alexandernst=)21:34
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kaddihi, anyone else having problem with Firefox 3.52 eating up all CPU?21:34
alexandernstCould you check it?21:34
CyberKitsune_Use Konqueror21:34
kaddithat really helps, thanks :p21:34
jipang_menjeritkaddi: lol21:34
jipang_menjeritLelousius: find the driver detail..then paste it21:35
jipang_menjeritkaddi: already try upgrad it?21:35
jipang_menjeritlol...now I'm helping them21:35
jipang_menjerit*upgrade21:35
kaddiit's the latest release21:35
CyberKitsune_Is the Intel X3100 a crappy GPU or do I not have the right drivers installed?21:35
kaddifirefox 3.0 works fine21:35
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kaddiCyberKitsune_: are you on jaunty?21:35
kaddi!intel21:35
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.21:35
CyberKitsuneYes21:35
CyberKitsuneOh21:36
* jipang_menjerit on Karmic21:36
CyberKitsunewe have a botcommand for it, sad :(21:36
kaddiI have a X3100 (I think) and upgrading to a newer kernel and a later x really helped21:36
kaddiwe have indeed :p and it has helped a LOT of people ;)21:36
jipang_menjeritbrb21:37
Lelousiusso i do "lspci" and i find "Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)" .. is that right?21:37
CyberKitsunekaddi: Do I need to add another source to upgrade versions? All of my current packages are up to date21:40
kaddiCyberKitsune:  yes, have a look at the links, they describe how to upgrade quite nicely21:41
BluesKajsmb4k seems a good compromise between vs fstab edits (which I couldn't make work) for mounting network shares21:51
CyberKitsuneI'm following the instructions on the forums but21:52
CyberKitsune"Note: If you are using Kubuntu or a custom distribution of Ubuntu that does not use the GNOME Display Manager (GDM), you need to execute the fixmtrr.sh script each time X (re)starts. Therefore, executing this script in your rc.local script is not sufficient."21:52
CyberKitsuneSo, is there a way to set it so every time KDM runs the script executes?21:53
CyberKitsuneer X21:53
CyberKitsuneanyone?21:56
kaddiCyberKitsune: it's been a while since I did this, to my recollection I didn't use that script and from looking at I can't tell what it does either..21:57
kaddibut I had help myself back then, so I'm sorry to say I can't really help you on this21:57
CyberKitsunewell, I may not need the script completely21:57
kaddimaybe check the following pages in the thread, there have to be some more kubuntu users that asked the question21:57
kaddiCyberKitsune: are you experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/31492821:59
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CyberKitsunekaddi: No, but I am getting MANY drawing errors and curropted graphics in KDE's apps22:01
CyberKitsuneIt's annoying22:01
CyberKitsuneand really bad 3D preformance22:02
kaddithe script is a fix to that special bug, so if you do not have that bug, my guess is you do not need to run that script at startup and can simply update the kernel and x-server22:02
CyberKitsuneand X overall22:02
CyberKitsuneok22:02
CyberKitsuneDoing dist-upgrade atm22:04
Lelousiusanyone here who knows how the blacklist works / what i have to add?22:06
CyberKitsuneman backlist?22:07
* CyberKitsune shot22:07
Lelousiusdriver blacklist22:08
Lelousius /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist22:09
Lelousiuswhat do i have to add in therewhen i don't want dome drivers to be loaded22:09
Lelousius"snd_hda_intel"  or  "ATI Technologies ..."22:10
BluesKajLelousius, blacklist = nameofdriver22:16
Lelousiushow do i get it? lsmod ? lspci ?22:16
BluesKajaplay -l22:17
LelousiusKarte 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], Gerät 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]   Untergeordnete Geräte: 0/1   Untergeordnetes Gerät '0: subdevice #0 Karte 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], Gerät 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]   Untergeordnete Geräte: 1/1   Untergeordnetes Gerät '0: subdevice #022:17
Lelousiusso .. what is it now? *confused*22:18
BluesKajtake the one in the first set of brackets HDA ATI SB22:18
Lelousiusok thx22:18
BluesKajor ALC88822:18
Lelousiusso i'll add "blacklist HDA ATI SB"22:19
BluesKajLelousius, try ALC888 instaed22:19
BluesKajinstead22:19
thejayjetson_bluetooth mouse has be set up each time upon log in-how can i get it to auto connect?22:20
thejayjetson_bluetooth mouse has be set up each time upon log in-how can i get it to auto connect?22:20
thejayjetson_xubuntu 9.0422:21
BluesKajthejayjetson_, /join #xubuntu22:22
thejayjetson_bluetooth mouse has be set up each time upon log in-how can i get it to auto connect?  xubuntu 9.0422:23
thejayjetson_can any help me out with bluetooth auto pairing?22:24
BluesKaj!patience | thejayjetson_22:27
ubottuthejayjetson_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience22:27
CyberKitsune_Ok, so22:39
CyberKitsune_The new kernal worked, and seemed faster...22:39
CyberKitsune_...but broke my WiFi22:39
CyberKitsune_So, I'm using the older kernal with newer drivers22:40
Linuceevery upgrade had goods things... and bad taste. boring22:40
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CyberKitsune!intel22:44
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.22:44
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enrico_salve22:51
ubuntujust installed AMP with apt-get but can not parse PHP files for some reasons?23:10
ubuntuchanged the apache2.conf with  AddType's two lines but no joy23:11
ubuntucor: are you breathing, dude?23:12
dverweire_ubuntu: i think cor "went to the shops"23:13
ubuntufair enough23:13
corI'm around, just got head head in a script23:13
ubuntucor, no worries, i'll hang around then untill you are free23:14
corAMP is a mistake imho. install apache on it's own, add php module. wham!23:14
corjust ask, I'm here now!23:14
ubuntucor. ta23:14
corI needed a break anyway23:14
ubuntucor, I apt-get'ed them both23:14
ubuntuapache2 displays it's famous 'It works' page but phpinfo() gets downloaded instead of being parsed23:15
ubuntuone thing to mention, though23:16
ubuntuwhen i was installing php, apt-get offered php5-cli23:16
ubuntudid i integrate php5 into ap2 properly or screwed it up?23:17
coreither should work, but for cgi, your scripts need a shebang, or some kind of suexec package23:17
coryou can install it fine, though, it's handy. but to use it from the web-side takes more effort23:19
corphp module is fine for dev/home use23:19
ubuntui need it just as a local sandbox. what would be a minimalist setting for Apache and PHP?23:19
corerm, that be cgi, sorry. similar but not he same23:19
corI'd remove AMP23:20
corI've never understood it. it doesn't make anything any easier, only introduces complexity, imo23:20
corlibapache2-mod-php5 is what I use here23:20
ubuntuOK23:21
corworks with the mpm-prefork apache23:21
corit's probably not as efficient as other methods, but it's easy to get working23:21
corand you can install other modules with simple apt-get php-gd for example23:22
ubuntui used to think in the linux world you can install LAMP with a few clicks or few lines.23:22
ubuntuok. let's try apt-get23:23
corwith these packages, you don't even need that, just install and go23:23
ubuntuk23:23
coryou can add sites by simplt dropping conf files into the sites-enabled folder, pretty easy, really23:23
ubuntucan i install Apache, MySQL and PHP using the Ubuntu package manager?23:25
corsure23:26
coraptitude install php5-mysql23:26
ubuntuk23:26
corI don't use mysql myself, so I can't help much with that side23:27
ubuntuhere we go, seems to be cooking now23:27
ubuntuboy, was it quick23:28
ubuntulet me test my phpinfo()23:28
pteagueis there some reason that kate enjoys crashing on me?23:29
cornah, she's just moody by nature23:29
corhaving said that, for all her flaws here, I don't see her crashing much. run her from a shell command and watch what's happening underneath23:30
corubuntu, it working?23:31
pteaguealt+tabbing between kate & another app sometimes causes kate to repaint very slowly, other times it's almost instantly... no idea why...  sometimes when trying to save something opening the save dialog will result in kate simply hanging...  i don't remember having this much problems with kate under 3/3.523:31
* _3vi1_ is away: Gone away for now23:31
ubuntunop23:31
corthat sounds like underlying kde trying to access network shares or something23:31
ubuntustill the same23:31
corwhat error you getting?23:31
ubuntuthe test.php download box pops up23:32
ubuntucould it be a file association mix up?23:32
coryou installed libapache2-mod-php5 ?23:32
ubuntui used to have similar stuff on suse23:32
ubuntunope23:32
ubuntui have not23:33
corthat's the php module23:33
coryou need that! ;o)23:33
ubuntuis it through apt-get?23:33
pteague`lsof -i` returns nothing in regards to kate...  it does show an ssh line which may be from fish...  anyway to kill/restart fish without killing kate? i don't want to have to retype what i currently have >.<23:33
coryup, sudo aptitude install <package name>23:34
cormaybe you could copy from /proc/mem whatever it is before killing it23:34
pteaguelast time i looked `aptitude install php5` should have installed it unless you already have the php5 cgi or cli installed23:34
coryeah, that may be a metapackage, good call23:35
corshould install everything, I guess23:35
corsudo aptitude install -y php5 php5-mysql php5-gd php5-curl23:35
corI just came across my own kubuntu setup notes!23:36
* cor adds that as a handy folder view .desktop link23:36
coroh it's all here! samba, printer, the works!23:37
corkomparator, hmm, I forgot I had that installed. handy23:38
pteague`ps aux | grep kate` turns up a line with "kate --use" & a kdeinit4 kio_file line...  tried to cat the /proc/pid#/mem & both came up as "No such process"23:38
corI use htop for that stuff cuz I'm lazy in the shell23:39
corF3 type23:39
corand with 360 scrollling...23:39
corI tried killing a child kio_file process once, with kate. the results weren't what I'd hoped for23:40
pteagueyeah, i was looking at htop to see if it was eating cpu & it's not23:40
cormind you, I did kill like 25 of them all at once23:40
pteaguethe 2nd pid listed in htop isn't under /proc/23:41
cormaybe that's why I use htop!23:41
ubuntucor, done. not sure what did the job, though. i just changed localhost to 127.0.0.123:42
pteagueah, there it is... /proc/5504/task/5525/mem gives me no such process as well... & so does /proc/5504/task/5504/mem23:42
corthough it did make me waste an entire half hour trying to locate the host "notty"23:42
corubuntu, you got php?23:43
ubuntuyep, now i did. thanks again, man23:43
corsounds like you need to tweak your local interface setup, too!23:43
ubuntuthat's for sure. but so far so good.23:44
coris /etc/hosts correct?23:44
corin other words, is there a line like..23:44
cor127.0.0.1   localhost23:44
ubuntujust a sec23:44
corI'd be surprised if there wasn't23:45
corbut, you know, weird sh*t happens23:45
ubuntuyep, both are in there23:45
corhmm. I wouldn't worry too much for now. and also, use your machine's name, instead23:46
corand of course, you can setup fake local hosts for any sites you have23:46
ubuntuyour little commands work like charm, due23:46
ubuntureally?23:46
corsure23:47
ubuntuso, you mean, machine name instead 127.0.0.123:47
corI generally use the proper local ip, e.g..23:47
ubuntui see,23:47
cor192.168.0.3 foobar.org23:47
ubuntuubuntu is there along with local host and 127.0.0.123:48
corof course, now you can't access the *real* foobar.org, if such a site exists23:48
ubuntuwow23:48
corso create nice unique names23:48
pteaguecould it be that fish timed out trying to get an answer from a DNS? ...  i really hate being here at the office...  the wireless is absolutely awesome >.<23:48
ubuntuand thenk23:49
corif you have an ath.cx domain, or no-ip, you can use yourname.ath.cx and access from inside & out23:49
corpteague, sftp is more robust23:49
corsame but better23:49
corfish was a temporary hack created for Midnight Commander23:49
corubuntu, you don't need tlds, either23:50
cor192.168.0.5    gronk23:50
ubuntucool23:50
ubuntufantastic23:50
corall my machines know each other by name23:50
cormakes all sorts of things easier23:50
corespecially with nice *short* names!23:50
pteaguehmm... i wonder...  brb, going to try to hibernate & restore & see if that might fix it <.<23:50
ubuntuyep23:50
corpteague, bring the interface down (unless you are chatting through it, too!)23:51
corubuntu, and of course, you can change the name of your own machine from ubuntu, to something else23:52
corthough don't forget to also edit /etc/hostname23:52
ubuntunever ever ever ever!23:52
corhehe23:52
ubuntulol23:52
corubuntu, if you have a Linux gateway (like IPCop or smoothwall), you can setiup the hostnames *there* and the local machines will get them through their regular DNS calls23:53
corsaves duplicating configs if you have lots of puters23:54
ubuntuyou'r taking me a bit too high, dude. :023:54
pteagueonly have the 1 box at the office... yet another reason to love the office... can get so much more work done on 1 computer instead of 3-4 >.>23:54
coryou can even go one stage further and setup bind, or someother nameserver23:54
corthe secret it to only use one at a time!23:55
ubuntuso, if i throw in some websites into my www folder?23:55
ubuntuhow would it work to be able to access them by names?23:55
corsure, or better yet, create a virtual host config file and drop it into the sites-enabled folder23:55
ubuntuputting the name in etc/hosts23:56
ubuntuthen?23:56
coryup, add the name there, and then creat a corresponding virtual host23:56
cor192.168.0.3 foobar23:56
corand then in the conf file..23:56
ubuntuconfig file being a clone of apache2.conf?23:57
corerm nah23:57
corbest to start with a fresh plain test file23:57
ubuntuk23:57
cor<Virtualhost *:80>23:57
corServerName foobar23:58
corDocumentRoot /home/sites/foobar23:58
coretc23:58
corcheck the documetation for virtual hosts23:58
ubuntuyep, i was about to say the same.23:59
ubuntuit just basically to learn the apache <vertualhost> directive23:59
corpretty much anything that can go in an apach config can go in a virtual host23:59
ubuntuthanks man23:59
ubuntui see23:59
corthe beauty is you can run a zillion sites off the same box23:59

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