[00:00] <ubuntu> what would be the syntax to install it,please?
[00:01] <ubuntu> is it something like: apt-get bplay?
[00:01] <EagleScreen_> aptitude install bplay
[00:01] <EagleScreen_> but from live CD you may have to enable universe section of repository
[00:01] <ubuntu> EagleScreen: ta, i ll give it a go. just a sec, please
[00:01] <EagleScreen_> i think bplay doesnt have gui
[00:01] <ubuntu> EagleScreen: i see
[00:02] <EagleScreen_> krec was a good KDE3 application to record sounds
[00:02] <ubuntu> EagleScreen: i've been a bit of a spoilt but don't mind to hit the command line. as long as we get the job done
[00:03] <EagleScreen_> you can try to install krec from intrepid or hardy
[00:04] <EagleScreen_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/krec
[00:04] <ubuntu> EagleScreen: OK dokey. let's check if there anything in my repos. I should've checked it beforehand but this is a midnight we are taliking about. Just a sec, please
[00:07] <ubuntu> EagleScreen: just checked my pack manager, the bplay is available there. going to give it a try
[00:08] <cor> my environmental audio machine uses ecasound, which was the only shell player that I could find that understood the term "loop"
[00:10] <ubuntu> cor: thanks there
[00:11] <ubuntu> cor: a newbie as i am, i think i'd rather try to install something basic with GUI to begin with.
[00:12] <cor> ahh sorree. I thought you were *loooking* for a shell player
[00:12] <cor> in the desktop. I'm currently raving about qmmp
[00:12] <ubuntu> on a subject of installation from the pack manager: once I install the required app, will i have to restart the sys?
[00:12] <cor> no
[00:12] <cor> LINUX IS NOT WINDOWS!
[00:12] <ubuntu> OK, that's cool, then
[00:13] <cor> unless you want to run a new kernel, the answer is usually NO
[00:13] <ubuntu> cool
[00:13] <cor> even network interfaces can go up and down with a single command. that's Linux baby!
[00:13] <cor> not, oh I changed my IP, please restart the system!
[00:14] <cor> hell yeas!
[00:14] <ubuntu> cool, i'd better fasten my seat belt aha?
[00:14] <cor> you bet!
[00:14] <ubuntu> lol
[00:14] <cor> KDE really cooks underneath. sadly the gui is never finished!
[00:15] <ubuntu> k then. hang on there, cor.
[00:15] <cor> but it's defenitely gotten past the stage where it knocks spots off any other OS, regardless of its kinks
[00:15] <ubuntu> ta
[00:16] <ubuntu> it looks sexy as well, i must say :0
[00:16] <cor> and.. about that nick. amazing catch, but still. your kooking with gas, now!
[00:16] <ubuntu> yeah!
[00:17] <ubuntu> sorry about the nick, it's just first steps, honestly
[00:17] <cor> hehe
[00:17] <ubuntu> k. to business then
[00:17] <cor> it's crazy that it was available
[00:18] <cor> considering #ubuntu is the most popular channel on here
[00:18] <ubuntu> my lacky day, then, aha
[00:18] <cor> I keep reading it to see if you are using some kind of funky mispelling
[00:18] <cor> Screw your KDE loyalties, register that nick now and rent it out to ubuntu fan boys!
[00:19] <ubuntu> i know
[00:19] <cor> your like IRC admin, pulling my chain, right?
[00:19]  * cor knew this day would come!
[00:19] <cor> okay okay, I'll go easy on the performance comedy!!!!!
[00:20] <cor> I already said I'd stay out of 'ubuntu didn't I!
[00:20] <cor> am I there? no! r8!
[00:20] <cor> lol
[00:20] <ubuntu> that's right, couse as i said, it's midnight we are taliking about
[00:21] <ubuntu> lol
[00:21] <ubuntu> and i still have a job to do, in fact, two. including the nick reg thing, :0
[00:22] <Hydrant> does anyone know how to install the alternate cd using just a usb stick, without a cdrom drive?  It's such a pain in the arse so far
[00:22] <trakinas> where is the configuration for the panel to not show windows on all desktops?
[00:23] <EagleScreen_> Hydrant: look for a usb disk image
[00:23] <Hydrant> EagleScreen_: don't see any official ones, where would I look
[00:24] <EagleScreen_> Hydrant: i know there are usb images for Debian (it is very similar to Ubuntu)
[00:25] <Hydrant> I have a booting usb image with unetbootin, the problem is the stupid installer which is looking for a cdrom
[00:32] <adam> hi does anyone have exprience with ubuntu server installation?
[00:33] <adam> ?
[00:33] <trakinas> done. =]
[00:33] <adam> hello
[00:34] <trakinas> adam: why?
[00:34] <adam> ive just finished installing ubuntu server 9.04 and after the intial reboot i just get a black screen with a cursor
[00:34] <adam> ive googled and it looks like something to do with ati drivers, how can i fix this?
[00:35] <adam> i cant get into the os to be able to install drivers for the ati card
[00:35] <adam> any suggestions
[00:35] <cor> Hydrant, unetbootin
[00:35] <cor> oops, I scroll and see you have tried this
[00:35] <adam> huh
[00:36] <adam> can anyone help please
[00:36] <cor> why not mount the usb stick into /media/cdrom0 or wherever it "expects" the CD to be?
[00:36] <trakinas> adam: a blank screen with a cursor showing "adam@smowrhere:"?
[00:36] <cor> adam, aren'y tou IN the OS? there's a cursor, right?
[00:36] <cor> *you
[00:37] <adam> cor no im not in the os
[00:37] <cor> in grub?
[00:37] <adam> after the installation it says it needs to reboot
[00:37] <adam> it reboots grub doesnt load
[00:37] <trakinas> is there is only a screen with a blank cursor, type control+alt+f1
[00:37] <adam> i just get a blank screen with a cursor flashing on the top left
[00:37] <cor> can you input text>
[00:37] <trakinas> then, log into your system.
[00:37] <trakinas> do what I've said: alt+control+f1
[00:37] <adam> cor no i cant
[00:38] <adam> ok hold on ill go try
[00:38] <cor> hold down Ctrl AND Alt AND F1
[00:38] <trakinas> btw, why you want to install X and gnome/kde onto a SERVER?
[00:38] <cor> = tty1 (there are 6, on the usual ubuntu install)
[00:38]  * cor was lining up that question
[00:40] <adam> ok that didnt work
[00:40] <adam> ok look let me start again
[00:40] <adam> first its a brand new system
[00:40] <adam> ive installed ubuntu 9.04 server and that ran perfectly
[00:40] <adam> after the install it says to reboot the system which i do
[00:40] <adam> it goes through bios
[00:40] <FloodBotK1> adam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <adam> i dont see any grub loader
[00:41] <Hydrant> cor: tried that, doesn't work
[00:41] <takoski> are u know if Medal of honor(game)is compatible with ubuntu?
[00:41] <adam> then i just see a blank black screen with a cursor flashing and thats all
[00:41] <Hydrant> I hate the text installer... it was destroyed after Slink, I still weep for the old Slink one
[00:42] <trakinas> adam: tty1 to 6 will load teh TEXT screen
[00:42] <trakinas> not the graph.
[00:42] <cor> adam, you need to boot from some other media and take a look at your X config, or better yet, remove X and KDE altogether.
[00:42] <cor> weird that you can't open another concole
[00:43] <cor> console, sheesh, I need to get more vertical!
[00:43] <adam> ok look cor
[00:43] <trakinas> again, if you want to learn linux on ubuntu server that's ok to put X on it. but if intend to use it on a productive env, please, don't install X.
[00:43] <adam> ubuntu no kubuntu
[00:43] <adam> so no kde
[00:43] <Hydrant> X is sometimes needed on a server, depends on what it's used for
[00:43] <adam> ubuntu server has no gui interface its purely terminal
[00:43] <cor> okay, remove gnome
[00:43] <trakinas> Hydrant: true...
[00:43] <cor> it's lazy. if you wanna admina server, get familiar with the tools
[00:44] <trakinas> adam: no. it has gui. believe me.
[00:44] <Hydrant> I'm setting up a server with Kubuntu right now, because I need people to be able to access it via NX to run apps
[00:44] <adam> no it doesnt its UBUNTU SERVER no gui seriously i know this ive used if for ages
[00:44] <Hydrant> cor: there is no known way to get a new IP without a graphical interface
[00:45] <cor> oh yeah! of course! darn!
[00:45] <adam> ok look clearly no one has  clue what they are talking about the whole idea behind ubuntu server is no gui see ya
[00:46] <cor> off to check the channel list for typos...
[00:48] <Hydrant> anyone have real life experience restoring with software raid 1?
[00:49] <Hydrant> I'm setting up software raid, and trying to get an idea as to how much of a nightmare it might be to restore when a disk fails
[00:50] <trakinas> adam, dude, I worked with ubuntu server as a control version server a year ago. and it did have gnome... not that I wanted to, but I just followed orders.
[00:51] <trakinas> so, please, don't say I don't know what Im talking about.
[00:51] <Hydrant> trakinas: already gone
[00:51] <trakinas> oh, bollocks. hehe
[00:52] <surfmdq> hi!, i read ext4 is not fully supported by ubuntu/kubuntu so the OS need to patch or make a work around to make /boot able to boot from ext4, is that true?
[00:53] <Hydrant> surfmdq: first question, why do you want /boot to be ext4?
[00:53] <Dragnslcr> For those who want to know the truth, Ubuntu Server does not install X or a desktop environment by default, but you can install them yourself if you want
[00:53] <Hydrant> Dragnslcr: indeed, all the same distro, different installation scripts and default packages
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> Pretty much, yup
[00:54] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: yep. I know that. but does not mean it comes "without gui". DE is just not   mandatory
[00:54] <surfmdq> Hydrant: hi!, i don't want to /boot be specially ext4, but if I define "/" to be ext4 and to set "/boot" to be ext3 specially, by default /boot will be ext4
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> Eh, it's arguable. All depends on what you mean by "comes with"
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> Which is why I would use "installed by default" and "available" instead
[00:55] <surfmdq> Hydrant: nevermind, how much space do you say I need to assign to /boot so I create an ext3  /boot  and ext4 / ?
[00:55]  * cor likes reiserfs for /boot volumes
[00:55] <cor> ext4 everywhere else
[00:56] <Hydrant> cor: isn't resiserfs long dead?
[00:56] <surfmdq> cor: hi =) why reiserFS ?
[00:56] <cor> move data off, ext4 format, put data back on
[00:56] <Hydrant> surfmdq: you need to create two partitions
[00:56] <cor> just cuz it's got such a cool, European sounding name
[00:56] <Hydrant> surfmdq: you can't have just a / mount point on one partition
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> surfmdq- 1 GB should be more than enough for /boot
[00:56] <cor> you trust a German watch, hear me!
[00:56] <Hydrant> cor: seriously, resierfs used to kick butt back before ext3
[00:56] <cor> it's /boot !
[00:57] <cor> I mean, it's only read one time
[00:57] <Hydrant> 1 GB FOR /boot?!?!?! WHOA!?!
[00:57] <Hydrant> what are you booting... ?!
[00:57] <surfmdq> Dragnslcr: Hydrant: lol!!
[00:57] <Dragnslcr> Heh, that's why I said "more than enough"
[00:57] <Hydrant> more like 50MB is more than enough
[00:57] <surfmdq> ok
[00:57] <surfmdq> cool
[00:57] <surfmdq> 50 megabytes
[00:57] <Hydrant> indeed, just grub and a couple kernels
[00:57] <cor> 11GB for boot, minimum. makes a great place to store secret data!
[00:58] <Hydrant> not really
[00:58] <cor> I meant 1, but hey 11, why not!
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> Assuming the disk is in 500 GB range, there's no point in making partitions in sizes less than GB
[00:58] <Hydrant> other than the fact disks don't grow on trees
[00:58] <cor> they do these days
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> I have 52 MB used by /boot right now, but that's with a lot of old kernels
[00:58] <surfmdq> Dragnslcr: i plan to install kubuntu on my old pc with 80gb hard disk
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> surfmdq- ah
[00:58] <Hydrant> I thought ext4 wasn't stable yet
[00:58] <cor> really, homeless people stacking up RAID towers with 500GB right now
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'd say 100 MB for /boot then
[00:59] <cor> EXT4 is solid on all my systems
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> ext4 can have some data integrity issues
[00:59] <cor> and the fsck times! w00h00!
[00:59]  * cor uses MD5 checksums allover
[00:59] <Hydrant> if you have to fsck frequently, you have other problems
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> It's rare, but there have been bug reports about lost data
[00:59] <Hydrant> hrrm
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> If you're going to use ext4, I'd strongly suggest keeping backups
[01:00] <cor> i do not have to. but when it jumps oput at you after 20* boots, you don't have to curse and swear. simply wait a monent
[01:00] <Hydrant> s/If you're going to use ext4, //g
[01:00] <cor> moment. one moment.
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[01:00] <cor> I have at least two copies of all important data
[01:00] <surfmdq> ext
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Well yeah, backups are always good
[01:00] <Hydrant> haven't had any issues with ext3 like that, ext2 yah...
[01:01] <surfmdq> so you suggest I still keep with ext3?
[01:01] <Hydrant> I don't know
[01:01] <cor> http://corz.org/windows/software/checksum/checksum.txt
[01:01] <Hydrant>  /boot, if a separate partition, should be ext2
[01:01] <Dragnslcr> Unless there's a specific reason you need ext4, I'd stick with ext3
[01:01] <Hydrant> why do you need journaling for /boot ?
[01:02] <Dragnslcr> I don't really think you even need a separate partition for /boot
[01:02] <Hydrant>  /boot shouldn't even be mounted on a normal system
[01:02] <Hydrant> no
[01:02] <Hydrant> but you can in some situations
[01:02] <Hydrant> if you really don't want people seeing the kernel image
[01:02] <cor> ooh! is that one of you pranksters giving my gateway a party?
[01:02] <Hydrant> or having it adjusted at all
[01:02] <surfmdq> Dragnslcr: i though I can take advantage of advanced properties and speed of ext4
[01:02] <cor> bring it on!
[01:02] <Hydrant> surfmdq: /boot is read once, and only once, then it does nothing... ever again
[01:03] <Hydrant> in fact /boot isn't even really read... by the system, just by the bootloader AFAIK
[01:03] <surfmdq> ok
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> If the system is old enough to still have an 80 GB disk, I doubt that your filesystem will be your biggest bottleneck
[01:03] <Hydrant> are you thinking you'll get increased performance or something?
[01:04] <surfmdq> exactly
[01:04] <Hydrant> has anyone used software raid in a production system here?
[01:05] <surfmdq> the only reason I think about using a separate ext3 /boot partition is because I was to make everythinh else /ext4 but since /ext4 isn't very stable yet I will stick to /ext3
[01:05] <surfmdq> Hydrant: Dragnslcr: cor:  thanx for your time pals =D
[01:05] <Hydrant> surfmdq: ext4 might be stable, I see it's an option now
[01:05] <Hydrant> just don't know off hand, and haven't used it
[01:06] <surfmdq> anyone tried LinuxMint 7 KDE
[01:06] <surfmdq> ?
[01:06] <surfmdq> it's based on kubuntu with all the codecs preinstalled
[01:07] <Hydrant> "based on .*buntu" distributions are always out of sync
[01:07] <surfmdq> Hydrant: no so up-to-date you mean!?
[01:07] <Hydrant> in my experience
[01:08] <Hydrant> don't know about that one in particular
[01:08] <Hydrant> there was medibuntu or something before
[01:08] <surfmdq> have you tried KDE 4.3 ??
[01:09] <surfmdq> I plan to install kub KDE 4.2.4 and update it to 4.3
[01:09] <Hydrant> not yet
[01:09] <surfmdq> ok
[01:09] <Hydrant> I'm getting frustrated with KDE4, though I hear a lot of the bugs are in kubuntu itself... considering moving to Arch linux
[01:10] <surfmdq> that would be a very long leap indeed lol xD
[01:11] <surfmdq> the problem of kubuntu is it seems so bloated and painfully slooooow
[01:11] <Hydrant> well, part of that is in ubuntu itself
[01:11] <Hydrant> you are paying a penalty, but it's not as bad as it was before
[01:11] <surfmdq> but it's allways better than applying kde to plain ubuntu
[01:11] <Hydrant> everything is a module, and every module is available
[01:11] <snowball> .
[01:12] <Hydrant> not sure where else ubuntu is hogging resources, but as I said it's not as bad as it used to be
[01:17] <Hydrant> what's the ubuntu/debian way to remove a service from all runlevels ?
[01:21] <trakinas> gtg. cheers all!
[01:24] <BluesKaj> Hydrant, http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[01:24] <Hydrant> thx
[01:27] <cor> I missed something just for me, I know it! I saw blue in the channel before I crashed X!
[01:27] <cor> och well, if it's important, hit me again
[01:28] <BluesKaj> BSOD ? :)
[01:28] <cor> heh yeah, summin like that!
[01:28] <cor> and then, forgetting I was messing with the wlan earlier, has resolv conf set to a non-existant IP, so mu re-entry wasn't so smooth, either
[01:58] <ubuntu_> i am struggling to record a sound file vie my mic
[01:58] <ubuntu_> using audacity?
[01:59] <ubuntu_> a know, it's something trivial, but there you go
[01:59] <ubuntu_> cor, r u available, dude?
[02:00] <cor> as required, sure
[02:00] <ubuntu_> cool
[02:00] <cor> when I can be of help, that is
[02:07] <Riobe> Is there a way to do superuser moves from within Dolphin?
[02:07] <Riobe> I want to move something from my desktop to /usr/local/ and it says I don't have permission.
[02:09] <ubuntu> cor, my apology for the glitch of the system
[02:10] <ubuntu> did not mean to be rude
[02:10] <ubuntu> r u there, body?
[02:11] <cor> sure, wazzup?
[02:11] <cor> Riobe
[02:11] <ubuntu> cool, apology again
[02:11] <ubuntu> so, getting back to my sound thing,
[02:11] <cor> Riobe, sftp:://root@localhost/
[02:11] <ubuntu> all i need is just to be able to record sound files?
[02:12] <cor> one colon, not two
[02:12] <ubuntu> hoops
[02:12] <Riobe> cor: I'm not sure what that means.
[02:12] <cor> Riobe, in Dolphin address bar, you can use sftp:// to login to your own system
[02:12] <cor> as root
[02:13] <Riobe> Oh, neat!
[02:13] <cor> ubuntu, did you try audacity? if so, what happened?
[02:13] <cor> very neat!
[02:13] <cor> you can load the files into kate or whatever AS ROOT, and save them transparently, too
[02:14] <cor> I must warn you, I'm no linux sound expert.
[02:14] <ubuntu> cor, i can see the sound bars are being pumped up when i speak, but i just can not hear anything in my headphones?
[02:14] <cor> ahh. so the mic works, at least.
[02:14] <ubuntu> is there a sound test in ku
[02:14] <cor> have you enabled a slider for that monitor output?
[02:14] <cor> in the mixer
[02:15] <cor> check that, then enable it, and uncheck the mute checkbox.
[02:15] <ubuntu> it should be sitting on my task bar, shouldn't it?
[02:15] <cor> yay
[02:15] <cor> looks like a speaker
[02:15] <mizery> I installed Kubuntu Jaunty on a system and after using KDE Desktop Sharing, two "Invitation - Desktop Sharing" windows appear on startup.  I'm not sure how to remove entries so it doesn't appear on startup.  Anyone have any suggestion?
[02:15] <ubuntu> don't see the thing
[02:16] <cor> mizery, go into kickoff menu and start typing krbf
[02:16] <ubuntu> cor, got it now
[02:16] <cor> is it krbf fellas? I use NX allover now
[02:16] <ubuntu> just launched the sound mixer
[02:16] <cor> handy thing, that
[02:22] <Walzmyn> Is there a way to make a window (such as a game in wine) ignore all "outside" commands (such as alt+left-click to move or KDE shortcuts)
[02:23] <ubuntu> just fiddled with the channels sliders, no joy
[02:23] <mizery> I'm experiencing another issue at the moment.  Upon KDE startup, the gui interface doesn't appear nicely.  The kickoff menubar at the bottom left is blacked out and the keyboard doesn't seem to function stably.
[02:23] <mizery> I can move the mouse cursor around.
[02:23] <mizery> but I can't close the Invitation - Desktop Sharing windows
[02:24] <mizery> Would that be related to a misconfigured Xorg.conf?
[02:24] <cor> Walzmyn, sounds like advanced window config
[02:24] <cor> ubuntu, it wasn't one of the hidden sliders?
[02:24] <cor> my system has dozens of em!
[02:25] <Walzmyn> Does anybody else feel like Quassel is harder to read after this last update?
[02:25] <Walzmyn> thanks, cor, i'll look
[02:25] <ubuntu> k, let me check those
[02:25] <cor> right-click the window title bar
[02:25] <cor> I config all my windows
[02:25] <cor> bein a fussy b4stard
[02:26] <Lord_Drachenblut> Walzmyn: I haven't been able to get into using quassel.... I keep reinstalling konversation
[02:26] <cor> ubuntu, on my laptop, the monitor channels were hidden and stuck on full blast by default. as soon as I enabled the mic I got a mess of feedback.
[02:26] <cor> but I found them in the mixer, switched them on, and all is well
[02:26] <Walzmyn> Lord_Drachenblut: I never liked konversation very much :)
[02:27] <cor> Xchat is always solid
[02:27] <cor> kinda mature, but that's a good thing in an app
[02:27] <Walzmyn> I used Xchat for years, but since quassel came pre-installed, i just kinda stuck with it
[02:28] <Lord_Drachenblut> Walzmyn: I like one or two features of quassel is kewl but I rather have the logging
[02:28] <cor> I wasn't bothered, used Quassel for the same reason, but it kept doing annoying stuff
[02:28] <mizery> cor: Typing "krbf" didn't yield any results.  Also, Synaptic package manager doesn't seem to have anything either.  And `which krbf` shows nothing nor `locate krbf`
[02:28] <cor> krfb
[02:28] <mizery> ah ^_^
[02:29] <cor> kr would have done the trick ;o)
[02:29] <mostafa_> hello there can anyone help me plz I don't have CDRom worked when I want to come to Kubuntu after I press enter at grub screen it shows me 3 errors and when I am in kubuntu my CDRom doesn't work
[02:29] <mostafa_> plz help
[02:29] <mizery> krfb opens the Invitation window, however, I don't see any configuration to prevent it from appearing on startup
[02:30] <Walzmyn> mostafa_: what are the errors?
[02:31] <mostafa_> let me check I must be note them somewhere in my HDD
[02:31] <cor> hmm. I rememebred there being a configure option you could setup invitations and all that.
[02:31] <cor> do you actually use it?
[02:32] <mostafa_> Walzmyn: I am rebooting and write down that error
[02:32] <mostafa_> now
[02:32] <hdevalence> how do I print a cups test page?
[02:33] <cor> if it's just an autostartup you want to stop, that's easy enough, too. but if you don't use it, uninstall, it.
[02:33] <cor> hdevalence, web interface is usually a good choice
[02:33] <hdevalence> ok, so how do I do that?
[02:33] <cor> http://localhost:631/printers/
[02:34] <hdevalence> hm, it says I have no printers, even though previously it told me it had configured it automagically
[02:38] <mostafa_> Walzmyn: I'm back again
[02:38] <Walzmyn> mostafa_: what ya got?
[02:39] <hdevalence>  so now I am back to: how do I add a printer in Kubuntu?
[02:39] <Walzmyn> hdevalence: 9.04? and what kinda printer?
[02:39] <mostafa_> Walzmyn: this is the error "6.1... ata2.00 : failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)"
[02:40] <hdevalence> Walzmyn: yes, an HP Laserjet P1505. It should use the foo2xqx driver
[02:40] <Walzmyn> hdevalence: hmm. I've never done anything but plug it in and wait a few seconds
[02:40] <hdevalence> I did that already
[02:40] <hdevalence> it said it was added
[02:40] <Walzmyn> mostafa_: that's what you're getting after from grub?
[02:41] <hdevalence> but clearly it isn't, since the cups page says there are no printers
[02:41] <mostafa_> Walzmyn: and 2nd one is the same as the first one like this "[17.4...] ata2.00 : failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)"
[02:41] <mizery> I'm experiencing another issue at the moment.  Upon KDE startup, the gui interface doesn't appear nicely.  The kickoff menubar at the bottom left is blacked out and the keyboard doesn't seem to function stably.  It seems to happen when I attach a second monitor via hdmi cable (the default is attached by vga cable).
[02:41] <mostafa_> and the third is also the same but the first number is 23.3....
[02:42] <mostafa_> yeah after grub I get this error
[02:42] <mostafa_> Walzmyn: yeah after grub I get this error
[02:42] <ubuntu> cor, thanks man, i am sorted now.
[02:42] <ubuntu> for a while of course :0
[02:43] <Walzmyn> mostafa_: Sorry man, i'm not familiar with that, and google's letting me down
[02:46] <Riobe> Can I extract a *.tar.gz with Ark?
[02:46] <cor> kewl! np
[02:46] <cor> Riobe, yes
[02:46] <Riobe> Er...I mean *.tar.bz2, whoops.
[02:47] <Riobe> I'm trying to extract a file called apache-maven-2.2.1-bin.tar.bz2 to my /usr/local/ folder and after it completes nothing has changed in the folder.
[02:47] <cor> try opening it, and then drag stuff out
[02:47] <hdevalence> ok, how do install the GNOME printer-config stuff?
[02:47] <Riobe> I have no idea why it looks successful but then apparently failed.
[02:47] <cor> or use mc, or the command line
[02:47] <Riobe> Ok, that's a good idea.
[02:48] <Riobe> I don't know how to do it with any other method than Ark. Is there a command I could use that can handle archives? I can research how to use it myself.
[02:50] <Riobe> Dragging it out of Ark make it look like it's extracting, but nothing happens.
[02:50] <cor> maybe it's corrupt
[02:50] <Riobe> I'm new to Linux, I don't know of a command that can work with *.tar.bz2
[02:50] <cor> do you have mc installed?
[02:50] <Riobe> No idea.
[02:50] <Riobe> I'll look.
[02:50] <cor> sudo aptitude install mc
[02:51] <cor> this is a step towards the shell
[02:51] <cor> which you will learn to love
[02:51] <Riobe> Everything that I've been able to do with the command line I choose to do like that.
[02:51] <cor> in your package manager, it may be called "Midnight Commander"
[02:51] <Riobe> It generally winds up being easier for me to handle then navigating the GUI's
[02:51] <cor> it's basically a 2 pane file manager, with nobs on
[02:51] <Riobe> That command seems to be working and installing mc.
[02:52] <cor> good
[02:52] <cor> once it's done type: mc
[02:52] <Riobe> Oh wow
[02:52] <cor> kewl
[02:52] <cor> now FIRST!!!!!!!!
[02:52] <cor> setup mc so it's not annoying
[02:52] <cor> F9
[02:52] <Riobe> lol
[02:52] <Riobe> Sounds good to me!
[02:52] <cor> and then a down arrow to pull down the menus
[02:53] <cor> left down >> configuration
[02:53] <cor> check...
[02:53] <cor> drop down menus
[02:53] <Riobe> Ah, neat.
[02:53] <cor> (apuse after run) ALWAYS
[02:53] <cor> *pause
[02:53] <cor> use internal edit
[02:53] <cor> Lunx-like motion
[02:53] <cor> save
[02:54] <cor> F9 again, left, up, "Save Setup"
[02:54] <cor> now you are good to go
[02:54] <cor> tghere's also confirmations, you may want to disable "confirm exit" which is annoying
[02:54] <Riobe> Sweet, thanks so much!
[02:54] <cor> np
[02:55] <cor> I love sharing mc with the unmcknowing
[02:55] <cor> it's a great tool
[02:55] <Riobe> *laughs*
[02:55] <cor> okay, with lynx0like motion, you can use left and right arrows to navigate
[02:55] <cor> it's s000per-fast
[02:55] <Riobe> Oh that is cool.
[02:56] <cor> find your archive, arrow down to it, and hit F2
[02:56] <cor> by the way, F10 kills things, menus, dialogs, mc itself
[02:56] <Riobe> Ah, ok.
[02:56] <Riobe> Finding the way out of an interface like this is always different. @.@
[02:57] <Riobe> Ah, there's an extract command here.
[02:57] <cor> the User menu has options for ar/unarc and other stuff. you can change the menu, too
[02:57] <cor> yes there is!
[02:57] <Riobe> Heheh, the ASCII-like GUI is awesome. :P
[02:58] <cor> also, any file, F4 (internal editor)
[02:58] <cor> and of course, you will probably want to make an alias in your .bashrc along the lines of mc="sudo mc" cuz it's most useful as a root tool. think of the POWER!
[02:59] <Riobe> lol, ah! I didn't open it as root, That's probably why it's failing the extract into usr/local
[03:00] <Riobe> w00t! *laughs* Worked like a charm! Thanks cor!
[03:01] <Riobe> Wow...seems that just about anything in Linux can be done from the terminal.
[03:01] <Riobe> Oh wow, you can use the mouse with mc as well.
[03:04] <Riobe> Is there a way to view environment variables?
[03:05] <Riobe> As in, what all environment variables I even have, as well as looking at their values?
[03:07] <cor> np! Riobe!
[03:07] <cor> variables, yeah, but that's some nix voodoo I've not tried
[03:09] <mizery> Is there a gui KDE-based application to configure CUPS printers?
[03:09] <cor> UNIX existed for decades before the fancy GUI came along
[03:09] <cor> yes, in system settings
[03:10] <cor> but you need to install aseparate package
[03:10] <mizery> web-based interface only?
[03:10] <cor> oh no, that should be in by default I think.
[03:10] <CyberKitsune> Hello, I am having a problem getting the wifi driver work on my MacBook 3,1... I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki, but no luck...
[03:10] <cor> I was thinking of samba for some reason!
[03:11] <CyberKitsune> I came here as I'm using kubuntu and not ubuntu
[03:11] <cor> yes! there is a samba system setting applet hidden in your package manager!
[03:12] <cor> what's the error, CyberKitsune ?
[03:15] <CyberKitsune> Well, when I try to deactivate it in the driver manager (System->Hardware Drivers) it shows as deactivated, and won't let me reactivate until I close the window, but when I reopen it it's still activated! A reboot makes no difference either.
[03:16] <cor> you want it disabled?
[03:22] <rubyist> can anyone help
[03:23] <rubyist> seems sound works for some apps, for others it doesnt
[03:23] <CyberKitsune> Yes
[03:24] <CyberKitsune> The wiki says that I need to disable/enable it
[03:24] <CyberKitsune> Jockey isn't working
[03:27] <cor> but the ultimate goal is to have it working, no?
[03:27] <cor> rubyist, help with what?
[03:27] <zebaztian> anyone know whats gnome's file manager?
[03:27] <rubyist> cor: sound works for some apps, some it doesnt
[03:27] <cor> Nautilus?
[03:28] <CyberKitsune> ^
[03:28] <zebaztian> i have both ubuntu and kubuntu and yet i can only see nautilus
[03:28] <cor> rubyist, at a guess, I'd say some apps are not configured correctly
[03:28] <zebaztian> when i type file manager
[03:28] <zebaztian> i mean
[03:28] <cor> try Dolphin
[03:28] <zebaztian> dolphin
[03:28] <zebaztian> i can only see dolphin
[03:28] <CyberKitsune> or Konquer
[03:28] <cor> yeah, small case
[03:28] <CyberKitsune> Konqueror*
[03:28] <zebaztian> and i want to use nautilus right now
[03:29] <zebaztian> like if i go to the k menu and type file manager i only get dolphin which makes no sense as i also have gnome insttalled
[03:29] <cor> why not type nautilus?
[03:30] <CyberKitsune> Or open Konsole and type nautilus
[03:31] <zebaztian> can i change my default file manager to nautilus even for kde?
[03:32] <cor> sure
[03:32] <CyberKitsune> cor: btw, What I'm trying to do is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Jaunty Under Wireless
[03:32] <cor> system settings
[03:33] <zebaztian> system settings>?
[03:33] <cor> CyberKitsune, the whole list???
[03:33] <CyberKitsune> No, the "Wireless" Section
[03:33] <CyberKitsune> Scroll down
[03:34] <cor> zebaztian, dunno, I always just scan the icons quickly afresh every time, my memory aint what it used to be. I always seem to find it real fast, though. must have an intuitive title.
[03:34] <zebaztian> cor: look under doughnuts, got it.
[03:35] <cor> xlnt!
[03:35] <cor> CyberKitsune, and a driver *was* available, and you installed it, right?
[03:36] <zebaztian> cor: any advantages though to dolphin over nautilus, in terms of personal preferencewhats your opinion? i just notice that dolphin takes much more resources than nautilus and it gets stuck at times
[03:36] <cor> I haven't played enoug with dolphin to be objective. I can never take more than a few minutes.
[03:36] <cor> I mean nautilus
[03:37] <cor> dolphin I use all over all the time
[03:37] <hdevalence> OK, what do I do when there are broken packages?
[03:37] <cor> nautilus, for me, isn't configurable enough. but that's the gnome way.
[03:37] <cor> I want my buttons there.
[03:38] <cor> hdevalence, aptitude
[03:38] <hdevalence> cor: I am using aptitude
[03:39] <cor> isn't there a section for broken packages? if not, try synaptic or some other package manager
[03:39] <hdevalence> it says that libaprutil1-dev is broken
[03:40] <hdevalence> libaprutil1-dev: Depends: libdb4.6-dev but it is not installable
[03:40] <cor> why not installible?
[03:40] <hdevalence> I have no idea
[03:40] <cor> maybe it tells you in that package's info
[03:41] <cor> I usually just force in changes until it stops bugging me
[03:41] <hdevalence> libdb4.6-dev is already installed
[03:42] <hdevalence> now librdf0-dev depends on libdb-dev
[03:42] <hdevalence> which points to libdb4.7-dev
[03:42] <EDinNY> I installed 9.04 a while ago.  The sound is not loud enough, and I noticed that kmix is not on the panel.  I can't find it as a widget, and when I try to start it from the menu, it appears on the taskbar, then disappears.  I never see the volume program running...any ideas?  any alternative?
[03:43] <EDinNY> kmix is already the newest version.
[03:54] <mizery> I want to configure two displays, two keyboards and two mice separately so that each mouse/keyboard is for a particular display and each display has a separate desktop.  Do I need to have two separate ServerLayouts to accomplish that?
[03:55] <cor> that and a big bag of coffee
[03:56] <EDinNY> lol.  coffee
[03:57] <EDinNY> does Kmix control the sound in kubuntu 9.04?
[03:57] <cor> I think it only controls the in/out levels
[03:58] <EDinNY> my problem is that those levels are too low and kmix does not seem to start or be an available widget
[03:58] <EDinNY> hmmm...if it is not available then is it on my panel?  if so, why can't I see it?
[04:00] <cor> it's in the tray, which is usally always ther, unless removed
[04:00] <cor> it sounds like the trouble is elsewhere. kmix, not sensing a sound card, would simply not load, I reckon
[04:00] <EDinNY> I see device list and desk switcher
[04:01] <EDinNY> there is sound...I just would like to control it...make it loud
[04:01] <cor> something is conflicting
[04:01] <EDinNY> using VLC to watch AVIs and I have the volume on VLC set to max
[04:03] <EDinNY> trying Dragon...same thing.  vol maxed and still not loud enough.
[04:15] <cor> aumix?
[04:15] <cor> ;o)
[04:16] <EDinNY> does that work with KDE?
[04:16] <EDinNY> I started with a fresh install
[04:16] <cor> it's a shell mixer form da olden days
[04:17] <EDinNY> but does it work in KDE4?
[04:17] <cor> sounds like driver settings
[04:17] <cor> it works in the *shell*
[04:17] <EDinNY> so I open Konsole and run it there?
[04:18] <EDinNY> the problem with ubuntu is that you never know how to fix things since hardly anything goes wrong
[04:18] <cor> it's probably not installed, and it would likely require OSS stuff.  I was kinda kidding
[04:18] <EDinNY> just apt-got it
[04:18] <cor> kewl! it still exists!
[04:18] <cor> go for it!
[04:19] <EDinNY> I grew up with RH before all the configuration guis
[04:19] <cor> ahh. good stuff. I came via slack
[04:20] <EDinNY> That did it.  PCM changes the volume
[04:20] <cor> aha!
[04:21] <cor> loook for that in kmix
[04:21] <cor> maybe hidden
[04:21] <mizery> Is anyone able to refer to me an official documentation to setup KDE 4.3 for Kubuntu?
[04:21] <EDinNY> the problem is I can't find kmix
[04:21] <cor> hehe
[04:21] <mizery> nm
[04:21] <EDinNY> mizery: sorry.  for the most part it just works
[04:21] <cor> aumix can run on the command line, i.e. set volumes to THIS and quit
[04:22] <EDinNY> I never figure out how to debug things until I find that thing is broke
[04:22] <EDinNY> How do I save the volume?  I used to know this
[04:22] <cor> all my systems (except this laptop) have been a complete nightmare to setup.
[04:22] <cor> it's good experience
[04:22] <cor> you don't save it so much as load it at startup
[04:22] <EDinNY> there are 2 kinds of experiences.  good experiences and good learning experiences
[04:22] <cor> maybe rc.local
[04:23] <Dragnslcr> mizery- I saw someone mention earlier today that 4.3.0 was taken out of the backports PPA while they're building the 4.3.1 packages
[04:23] <cor> as a wise person said, experience isn't what happens to you, it's what you do with what happens to you
[04:23] <mizery> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A <-- How do I generate a public key?
[04:23] <cor> add the key
[04:24] <EDinNY> there is some other bug...my guess is new kernel. I have had 2 desktops lock up.  I know on one both memory and swap were maxed out
[04:24] <mizery> cor: how do I add the key?
[04:24] <EDinNY> did not get to look at the other one
[04:25] <CyberKitsune> cor: Nvm, a guy in a Sonic The Hedgehog fan IRC room helped me fix it =P
[04:25] <cor> it tells you on the repo page
[04:26] <CyberKitsune> I know, except that didn't work
[04:26] <cor> so what was the problem?
[04:26] <mizery> gpg --gen-key <something here>?
[04:26] <cor> that was sor mizery
[04:26] <CyberKitsune> The wrong driver was being loaded
[04:26] <mizery> What's the repo page?
[04:26] <cor> *for
[04:27] <mizery> repository page
[04:27] <cor> it's the page that gave you the URL for the REPOsitory
[04:27] <mizery> hmm, http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-install-kde-43-in-ubuntukubuntu.html ?
[04:27] <mizery> it didn't say on that page
[04:27] <mizery> I think the author missed that step
[04:28] <cor> and the command is sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <KEY HERE>
[04:29] <cor> even without the keys, you can install
[04:29] <cor> do it in the shell
[04:52] <Zuz|Kubuntu> can anyone help me set my dell inspiron 1501 keyboard layout to what in windows would be United States International?
[04:52] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i almost got it
[04:53] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i can get the á é í ó ú êâ all fine Ã fine as well but the ' in the c has to be below the c and not over like this ć
[05:23] <inscape> hi everyone
[05:25] <inscape> anyone here?
[05:25] <inscape> hi Zuz
[05:57] <webbb> can anyone in here explain what is this social desktop about
[06:28] <CyberKitsune_> I can't seem to get the KDE 4.3 source to update
[06:28] <CyberKitsune_> well it does
[06:28] <CyberKitsune_> but
[06:28] <CyberKitsune_> None of the packages are there
[08:00] <sava> hi there, having a bizarre problem, I am unable to upgade from  KDE 4.2.96 (KDE 4.3 RC2) to the official relase
[08:01] <sava> i have the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main repository
[08:36] <COm_BOY> I am getting error when playing file in MPLAYER ... Cannot find codecs for audio format 0xA
[08:37] <COm_BOY> anyone here ??
[08:39] <COm_BOY> i think i need to download all-20071007.tar.bz2  file that is the codes... but i dont know where to place it
[08:45] <COm_BOY> how to change login id during operation
[08:47] <jtheuer__> Hi! Does anyone know what the message on Konqueror startup "...didn't close correctly .. want to restore tabs" and then the button "ask me later" does??
[09:29] <p-f> Is there a way to get more human-friendly timestamps in dmesg? I would like "real" times as opposed to what seems to be the time since booting up.
[10:32] <voicu> uhm, does the J interpretor have a package in the repos? if yes, do you know which one? "J" is not a very useful search expression
[11:13] <Craig`> hey
[11:14] <jussi01> hi Craig`
[11:14] <Craig`> http://thepemberton.com/posts/archives/13 I'm trying to install steam, but the link they provide is not a valid URI, (404), can someone provide me with the link of the .exe for steam?
[11:14] <thejayjetson_> how can i get my bluetooth mouse to be auto connect-right now i have to used the keyboard each time i boot up
[11:14] <jussi01> Craig`: have you checked the steam website?
[11:15] <Craig`> jussi01: it says on the tutorial not to get the .msi of their site
[11:15] <jussi01> Craig`: Im not sure tbh. I use steam through crossover games, which has an automated install
[11:16] <thejayjetson_> steam?
[11:16] <Craig`> jussi01: how do I do that, I'll do anything to install it..
[11:16] <jussi01> Craig`: crossover games costs some money.
[11:16] <Craig`> ah, nevermind
[11:17] <Craig`> I'm thinking of getting win7, and using that for games, and ubuntu for other things
[11:17] <jussi01> Craig`: you may want to check it out though at: http://www.codeweavers.com/
[11:18] <Craig`> yeah I'm planning on getting windows 7, and then buying a 50" plasma for my screen/tv :)
[11:38] <malic> hi! in kde 4.3: do i need the knetworkmanager for a working wlan connection?
[11:38] <malic> there is also the network- widget
[11:40] <malic> when i use the widget nothing happens when i want to connect to my wireless lan
[11:46] <malic> help
[11:51] <benkinooby> I am installing skype, added the repos and the keyring successfully. When I want to coose skype in the software manager i get 4 entries. one is "skype", "skype-common", "skype-static" abd "skype-static-oss". What is the difference?
[11:53] <slhk_> benkinooby: look at the download page on skype website, there is a description of them
[11:53] <benkinooby> slhk_:  thank you very much... forgot google is my friend
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:17] <ubuntu> i am trying to install a small app but install generated permission denied error
[13:19] <ubuntu> anyone to help me out?
[13:19] <ubuntu> please?
[13:21] <dverweire_> ubuntu: what's up?
[13:21] <ubuntu> dverweire, as i said, permission denied error
[13:21] <dverweire_> ubuntu: sorry, just logged in to irc, didn't see what you said before.
[13:22] <ubuntu> no probs
[13:22] <dverweire_> ubuntu: what app?
[13:22] <ubuntu> it's a humble screen recorder written in perl called vnc2flv?
[13:23] <ubuntu> should i give you the whole path to look at?
[13:23] <dverweire_> ubuntu: sure
[13:24] <ubuntu> error: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/flvscreen.so: Permission denied
[13:29] <freestyler> ;)
[13:32] <dverweire_> ubuntu: sorry. no luck with that app. not getting the permission denied, just not getting any flv data
[13:33] <kockacuki> breaking news: new distro: ubuntu vatican edition built in gratis pray-editor
[13:33] <ubuntu> dverweire_: sorry, i am not exactly with you
[13:34] <ubuntu> dverweire_: did you manage to install it to not get any flv data?
[13:35] <dverweire_> ubuntu: exactly.
[13:35] <ubuntu> dverweire_: how come then i can not?
[13:35] <ubuntu> may be this is the root of the problem?
[13:36] <dverweire_> ubuntu: it installed, and when i run recordwin.sh it starts capturing wav, but not flv.
[13:36] <dverweire_> ubuntu: when does it die for you?
[13:36] <ubuntu> i see
[13:36] <kockacuki> ubuntu britha aloha
[13:36] <ubuntu> did you launched your vnc server beforehand?
[13:37] <dverweire_> ubuntu: yes. i then clicked on the window when it asked me to.
[13:38] <ubuntu> i did play with it on openSUSE 11.1 and everything was fine there
[13:39] <ubuntu> dverweire: can we get back one step for me and talk about installation?
[13:39] <ubuntu> dverweire: can we compare our systems?
[13:40] <dverweire_> ubuntu: sure. btw, flvrec.py works, however the screen flashes.
[13:40] <ubuntu> dverweire: i see, may have something to do with your h/ware
[13:41] <ubuntu> dverweire: if your fancy the app, i don't mind sharing with you my experience with it, but first can we sort out installation?
[13:41] <dverweire_> ubuntu: i'm running kubuntu 9.04, kde 4.3, 64bit. downloaded vnc2flv from http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/python/vnc2flv/index.html. untarred it and did sudo python setup.py install
[13:42] <dverweire_> ubuntu: btw, i was recording a remote vnc server that does not have a password.
[13:43] <ubuntu> dverweire: can my running the kubuntu from Live DVD effect the install? I mean, do i have to run it from hd?
[13:45] <dverweire_> ubuntu: not being experienced with the dependencies of vnc2flv, i can't say for sure, but i'd expect to be able to run it from the DVD
[13:46] <dverweire_> ubuntu: are you trying to record the vnc server on your local machine or a remote vnc server?
[13:46] <dverweire_> ubuntu: do you have write access to the disk where you are trying to create the flv file?
[13:47] <ubuntu> dverweire: i checked the path to the culprit file permissions wise. can we look at them folder by folder for me?
[13:47] <dverweire_> ubuntu: sure.
[13:47] <dverweire_> ubuntu: firstly, what is your current working directory? (pwd)
[13:47] <frapell> is it safe to upgrade to kde 4.3.1 ? i haven't found an official announcement in kde.org website nor in kubuntu.org
[13:47] <ubuntu> dverweire: hang on a minute. I am not trying to create a flv file.
[13:48] <dverweire_> frapell: it's not officially supported, but i'm running it and it rocks.
[13:48] <frapell> dverweire_: ok, great :)
[13:48] <frapell> thanks
[13:49] <ubuntu> dverweire: i thought, we both were clear on that?
[13:49] <dverweire_> frapell: definitely not clear on that as the program is called vnc2flv, thought that was the point?
[13:50] <frapell> :P
[13:50] <dverweire_> s/frapell/ubuntu/
[13:51] <ubuntu> dverweire: i think i missed one of you questions
[13:52] <dverweire_> ubuntu: let's start over, what are you trying to do if you are not trying to create an flv file?
[13:52] <ubuntu> dverweire: on what i am trying to record
[13:53] <ubuntu> dverweire: it's a local screen. just to produce some video tutorials on software
[13:53] <dverweire_> ubuntu: ok. thank you. and what are the permissions on the current working directory?
[13:54] <dverweire_> ubuntu: just trying to figure out if the permission error is when trying to contact the local server or when trying to write the file, or neither
[13:55] <ubuntu> dverweire: i have not installed the thing
[13:55] <dverweire_> ubuntu: lol. ok. sorry.
[13:55] <dverweire_> ubuntu: you've downloaded it, yes?
[13:55] <ubuntu> dverweire: yep
[13:55] <dverweire_> ubuntu: are you comfortable with the commandline?
[13:56] <ubuntu> dverweire: sort of
[13:56] <dverweire_> ubuntu: good enough. pull up a shell in konsole
[13:56] <ubuntu> k
[13:56] <mostafa_> ubuntu: hello there how can I convert a .mpg or other formats to .ts file?
[13:57] <dverweire_> ubuntu: get yourself to the directory where you downloaded the file
[13:57] <ubuntu> k
[13:57] <dverweire_> now run tar -xzvf filename
[13:57] <dverweire_> where file name is actually the whole file name
[13:58] <ubuntu> dverweire: yep
[13:58] <mostafa_> ubuntu: can you help me?
[13:58] <dverweire_> ubuntu: ok. now cd to the new directory created (mine was vnc2flv-20090830)
[13:59] <dverweire_> ubuntu: then run "sudo python setup.py install"
[13:59] <ubuntu> mostafa: sorry dude, i am not a moderator
[13:59] <mostafa_> ubuntu: thnx for your response ;)
[13:59] <ubuntu> dverweire: got that
[14:00] <ubuntu> mostafa: i am really sorry i can not help as i even can not install the app myself as you can see
[14:00] <ubuntu> mostafa: may be in a day or two time?
[14:00] <dverweire_> ubuntu: did the last command you entered complete with a series of copying build/scripts.... and changing mode of......
[14:01] <ubuntu> dverweire: let me paste the shell output
[14:01] <dverweire_> just the last couple lines will be fine.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, are you trying to create dvd burnable file ?
[14:01] <mostafa_> ubuntu: thnx dude ;)
[14:02] <ubuntu> mostafa: no worries
[14:02] <ubuntu> dverweire: OK, here it comes: error: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/flvscreen.so: Permission denied
[14:02] <dverweire_> ubuntu: what command did you enter to make that happen?
[14:03] <ubuntu> dverweire: nope, it's not the whole output. hang on a sec
[14:03] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/vnc2flv/vnc2flv-20090830$ python setup.py install
[14:03] <ubuntu> running install
[14:03] <ubuntu> running build
[14:03] <ubuntu> running build_py
[14:03] <ubuntu> running build_ext
[14:03] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <ubuntu> running build_scripts
[14:03] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I have a reciever that it takes a USB Flash to store and play movies
[14:04] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: and now I want to play some file from my computer into the reciever to play with
[14:04] <ubuntu> dverweire: my apology for pasting
[14:04] <mostafa_> but it just supports .ts file
[14:04] <dverweire_> ubuntu: no worries! if you want to post it to paste.ubuntu.com, go for it.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, ok so the receievr determines the codec to be played ?
[14:05] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: you got it dude?
[14:05] <ubuntu> dverweire: sorry mister Bot. (Holly Molly)
[14:05] <dverweire_> ubuntu: more importantly though, did that permission denied error happen when running the install command?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> what codecs , mostafa_ ?
[14:05] <dverweire_> ubuntu: fyi, that bot is not me.
[14:05] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: its codec is .ts
[14:06] <ubuntu> dverweire: i know, dude
[14:06] <ubuntu> dwerweire: he seems to be just your big brother. lol
[14:06] <devilsadvocate> ubuntu, try sudo python setup.py install
[14:06] <dverweire_> ubuntu: lol. he's all our big brother.
[14:07] <ubuntu> dverweire: lol
[14:07] <dverweire_> ubuntu: ditto devilsadvocate
[14:07] <BluesKaj> .ts is not a codec , mostafa_ , that's format that contains the video file, totally different than the codec
[14:08] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: excuse me sir then I should say I don't know codec
[14:09] <mostafa_> unfortunately
[14:11] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, you say you are trying to use a usb stick for the receiver to read from ?
[14:11] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: yep and I check codec with wikipedia now I knew it :D
[14:11] <mostafa_> to some extent
[14:12] <ubuntu> dverweire: shall we try to chmod a bit around the folders on that path? just to see if that can help?
[14:12] <dverweire_> ubuntu: you ran the install comand with sudo, correct?
[14:13] <ubuntu> dverweire: nope
[14:13] <devilsadvocate> ubottu, python setup tools are quite well established. if there is a python setup.py install in the instructions, it will work
[14:13] <devilsadvocate> ubuntu, ^
[14:13] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: you mean which program am I converting  .mpg file to .ts with?
[14:13] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: right?
[14:13] <dverweire_> ubuntu: run the command install command with sudo at the beginning.
[14:14] <dverweire_> ubuntu: so the command will be sudo python setup.py install
[14:14] <devilsadvocate> ubuntu, assuming you are in the sudoers list, just run it with sudo. i'd recommend against messing around with chmod in /usr/lib
[14:14] <dverweire_> devilsadvocate: he's running from the install DVD
[14:14] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, I would extract the video file with a program called devede
[14:15]  * oobe is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[14:15] <devilsadvocate> dverweire, ubuntu then you should be able to sudo, or failing that, try 'su'
[14:15] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, *.ts is a wrapper for video on dvd , it has to be opened the video extracted from it
[14:16] <ubuntu> dverweire: bingo
[14:16] <devilsadvocate> iirc sudo works, su does not
[14:16] <seest> hey i am new using kubuntu, so could someone please guide me ? how can i connect to wireless internet
[14:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> #gentoo
[14:16] <dverweire_> ubuntu: :)
[14:16] <ubuntu> dverweire: thanks a bunch, dude
[14:16] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: ok then what did you get by extracting a file by devede?
[14:16] <dverweire_> ubuntu: you're welcome. good luck.
[14:17] <ubuntu> you have a great day there. see you around
[14:17] <dverweire_> ubuntu: you too! see ya!
[14:18] <BluesKaj> mostafa_,  actually , if you are feeling adventurous there is a command line program that is easy to use that does the proper conversion for you with a few simple commands , FFMPEG
[14:20] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: :D sort of
[14:20] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: how can I do that?
[14:20] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: type "man ffmpeg" and C what i can do with it
[14:21] <mostafa_> ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> yes , but there are some nice tutorials on the net as well if you do some research
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !PM | seest
[14:22] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: you don't have any link to help me?
[14:23] <seest> ohh sorry, i will remember for next time
[14:24] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/19/how-to-convert-any-video-file-format-under-linux/   this is a start
[14:24] <seest> hello, can somebody please guide me thougt how to connect to wireless internet
[14:25] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: thank you dude you are so generous ;)
[14:26] <BluesKaj> seest, did you install wicd ?
[14:27] <seest> no, how schould i do this?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, thank me after you successfully convert your file :)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> seest, sudo aptitude install wicd
[14:28] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[14:28] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: ok sir you are right :D
[14:28] <seest> okay i try
[14:30] <seest> then it ask me for a password, which one should i paste then?
[14:32] <seest> cant type anythink in the console then it ask me for the password
[14:33] <BluesKaj> what kind of wireless setup do you have seest , router-modem , router to modem .. your router needs to be given a password for wifi security , so you have to choose one in the router first
[14:34] <seest> okay... i hvae chosen it in the router... ill try type that in
[14:35] <BluesKaj> then type it into wicd to let your pc/laptop connect wifi to the router,
[14:35] <BluesKaj> and of course make sure you have wireless enabled in the router
[14:36] <seest> okay, but to install wicd, i have to type a password in console, and it is not the password from the router?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> no your regular login password
[14:37] <seest> yeah, my computer have been running with windows bbefore, so my wireless have been running
[14:37] <seest> okay i try again
[14:37] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I installed both devede and ffmpeg
[14:37] <seest> ohh yes, now something happened
[14:37] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: devede I think it is just for burning DVD s
[14:37] <BluesKaj> choose a password for the router and wicd , but make sure it's differnt than your login one
[14:37] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: and ffmpeg doesn't have any .ts file format or codec
[14:38] <seest> okay, but there do i find wicd then it haven been installed?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> seest, in kmenu/applicationms/internet
[14:39] <seest> okay
[14:39] <seest>  thank you
[14:40] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: did you hear me?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, look in the ts file for the video first , to make sure it'sd actually there
[14:42] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: where to look for ?
[14:42] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: Excuse me but I didn't catch you
[14:42] <mostafa_> :D
[14:43] <seest> its not in kmenu/applications/internet, it is only the same programs that was there before i started:/
[14:43] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, do a properties , just to see if the file is large enough to be a movie , say over 500mb
[14:43] <mostafa_> ok
[14:44] <BluesKaj> seest, alt+f2 , wicd
[14:44] <seest> dosn't open anything?
[14:45] <seest> dosn't find any filename with that name?
[14:45] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: how can I send you a picture?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, pls read the ffmpeg instructions thoroughly, and try some of the commands to get the feel of using the command line... it's the only way
[14:48] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I want to send you a properties of a file
[14:49] <sep1318> dist-upgrade says it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop. is that ok?
[14:50] <sep1318> I'm assuming this is the 4.3.1 update
[14:50] <shadeslayer> sep1318: yeah,kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[14:50] <BluesKaj> dist upgrade from ?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> sep1318: so its fine to remove it but reinstall it later
[14:51] <sep1318> shadeslayer: i know it's meta, it just seemed odd to want to remove it.
[14:51] <sep1318> BluesKaj: apt-get
[14:52] <BluesKaj> from what to what is what i meant :)
[14:52] <sep1318> o. 4.3.0 -> 4.3.1
[14:53] <shadeslayer> sep1318: um is 4.3.1 out?
[14:54] <sep1318> shadeslayer: that's what the version numbers on the packages I'm dl'ing say. "...4:4.3.1-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa3"
[14:55] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:55]  * shadeslayer checks for updates.....damn i should have upgraded at the uni
[14:56] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't upgrade to 4.3.1 until an official announcement is made
[14:56] <sep1318> uhhuh.
[14:56] <Dragnslcr> Trying to upgrade while the packages are being updated in the repository has a tendency to break things
[14:56] <sep1318> right.
[14:56] <BluesKaj> afaik, a dist upgrade just sets the desktop aside during the upgrade and reinstalls it afterwards , it doesn't actually get deleted
[14:57] <shadeslayer> no updates in karmic though.... and were supposed to be breaking things :P
[14:57] <seest> i really dont get this? nothing is happening in my files then i type sodu aptitude install wicd?
[14:58] <sep1318> BluesKaj: dist-upgrade deals well with dependencies. as a workaround for packageKit blocking updates that want to install new or remove packages.
[14:58] <sep1318> (according to interpretation of manpage)
[14:58] <Squirkey> I have an annoyance that I need some help with....I seem to have set the desktop sharing app to autostart on login...anyone know how I can turn this off?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> sep1318, yeah that packagekit thing again , it's flaky .. use aptitude
 i don't understand why nothing is happening?
[15:01] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: excuse me for DC anyway my file is about 720Mb and its file format is .ts
[15:01] <BluesKaj> seest, describe , nothing is happening
[15:02] <seest> i have installed wicd like you said, but i can't find it in the menu or anythere else?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, is there another video with a different wrapper that you learn with
[15:04] <petra> Hello all:)  someone knows how can I increase grafik ram for vmware host?
[15:04] <Cuppa> I've been having trouble getting my system to recognise USB, and can't find anything useful on google.. could anyone tell me where to look please?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, try the gui app k9copy
[15:05] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: excuse me Blueskaj I am not professional with multimedia files I don't know wrapper
[15:05] <genii> petra: You probably would find someone knowledgable on that in the #vmware channel
[15:07] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, think of it as a special folder that contains the video , that can only be played on a dvd player and has to extracted or ripped to be playable on a computer hardrive
[15:07] <petra> thanks!
[15:07] <seest> BluesKaj, i dont know how to find wicd, i said finnish in the konsole
[15:08] <seest> it*
[15:08] <BluesKaj> seest, did you actully install wicd ? you cn check by doing : apt-cache policy wicd , in the terminal
[15:09] <seest> BluesKaj it answers, command not found
[15:10] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: Iet me start over : I can play the .ts file and watch it in both PC and Reciver . the reciever saves its output in the .ts file format and it just obey this kind of file format. then I want to play a video file format for example : .mpg or .dat or ... in the receiver but I must convert that file to .ts because the receiver just support this file format
[15:12] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: now I want to convert the video file formats into the .ts file format
[15:12] <seest> mostafa try handbrake that is a program i have really good experience with for windows, and i know it is in a linux version too
[15:12] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: am I clear?
[15:14] <mostafa_> seest: handbrake ?
[15:14] <krushia> when the kde4 plasma desktop dies, how does one restart it?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> seest, sudo aptitude install policykit
[15:15] <seest> mostafa_,yes, its a free  video converting tool that allow you to convert any sort of video file
[15:15] <shadeslayer> krushia: alt+F2 > plasma-desktop
[15:15] <Squirkey> krushia: crtl+alt+backspace?
[15:16] <KelloggsFrosties> does anyone know if there are ongoing changes on kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu ? i try to update to kde4.3, but the kde4 packages are not upgraded. just some qt4-packages would upgrade
[15:16] <shadeslayer> KelloggsFrosties: um...that may mean you are already on kde 4.3
[15:16] <krushia> shadeslayer: thanks
[15:17] <seest> BluesKaj, done, but says 0 in anything
[15:17] <KelloggsFrosties> shadeslayer: nope. definitively not. dpkg tells me, all packages are 4.2.2 as it is a fresh installation
[15:17] <BluesKaj> seest, the you haven't installed wicd , try again
[15:17] <seest> okay
[15:18] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude install wicd
[15:19] <seest> BluesKaj, okay it says 0 in any places with numbers too, but it says it is finnish
[15:19] <shadeslayer> hmmmmm
[15:19] <shadeslayer> KelloggsFrosties: tried dist-upgrade?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> seest, he's not converting any codecs , he needs to wrap them in file system setup for dvd which are known as .ts files
[15:20] <KelloggsFrosties> shadeslayer: yes. it is not because the packages are held back. they just seem to be not there. yesterday it worked all well with my other pc.
[15:21] <BluesKaj> seest , pastebin the output from your console after trying sudo aptitude install wicd
[15:21] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | seest
[15:24] <seest> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/262543/
[15:24] <KelloggsFrosties> as far as i interpret http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages there has been a change yesterday. kdebase and a lot other packages seem to miss
[15:24] <seest> i think this link is what you need
[15:27] <seest> BluesKaj, does the link work?
[15:30] <Dragnslcr> KelloggsFrosties- I heard someone mention yesterday that they're working on 4.3.1 packages right now
[15:31] <KelloggsFrosties> Dragnslcr: That would explain a lot. Okay. I will stop installing until they are up to date
[15:32] <Dragnslcr> KelloggsFrosties- the KDE site's schedule says that 4.3.1 is due out tomorrow
[15:36] <BluesKaj> seest , open your package manager and click on sources, enable third party sources , you have some repositories blocked ,thay's why you can't install wicd
[15:37] <seest> okay ill try that
[15:39] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, what receiver are you using to play the video with usb ?
[15:39] <seest> BluesKaj, how do i do this
[15:41] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: oh excuse me the model is : star sat SR-X95USB
[15:43] <seest> BluesKaj, i am in my package manager, and have found third-party software
[15:45] <shadeslayer> nevemind..... just had to kill krunner and plasma..
[15:47] <BluesKaj> seest, enable the third part repositories , check the boxes except for the cdrom one , if it's there
[15:47] <mostafa_> seest: handbrake is good to convert .ts file format into others but I can't convert any video file format to .ts can you help me with this?
[15:48] <seest> BluesKaj, okay, and then this is done, sudo aptitude install wicd?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, so your receiver has  a built in pvr/hardrive, or just a USB port
[15:48] <BluesKaj> seest, yes
[15:48] <seest> okay
[15:48] <mostafa_> no just a USB port
[15:48] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: no just a USB port
[15:49] <mostafa_> I put the USB Flash into the port and then from the remote press the record then it record the video for me
[15:50] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I put the USB Flash into the port and then from the remote press the record then it record the video for me
[15:50] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, what does it record on ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> must have a hard drive
[15:52] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: it records anything that you want I don't know maybe film,Radio,....
[15:52] <BluesKaj> or does it just playback off the flash drive , in the record mode
[15:52] <seest> mostafa_ ohh, i have misunderstod your problem, but in windows, i just used nero, made a rip, and vupti 2 folders with the respektiv names audio.ts and video.ts where createt
[15:54] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: it has a USB mode when I go through it I can watch the recorded things or any other .ts format
[15:54] <BluesKaj> if it records mostafa_ , then it's a pvr = personal video recorder similar to tivo , that i use , but mine is hooked to my LAN and i transfer videos that way, no usb port
[15:55] <seest> BluesKaj, thank you, it seems like working
[15:55] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: what do you suggest for me to do?
[15:55] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: brb ;)
[15:55] <shadeslayer> my bluetooth adapter is not coming up....how do i scan for hci devices using hcitool?
[15:58] <seest> Blueskaj, now i have opened wicd, but how do i connect then, to a wireless connaction
[15:58] <BluesKaj> click on preferences
[15:59] <genii> shadeslayer: hcitool dev        should show local devices like your adapter.  hcitool scan         should show the other devices that it sees
[15:59] <BluesKaj> ok BBL errands to run BBL
[15:59] <shadeslayer> genii: it shows no devices....
[16:00] <shadeslayer> i think the problem is : [ 1720.380744] generic-usb 0003:0A5C:4503.0004: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Broadcom Corp] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2.3/input0
[16:00] <shadeslayer> its recognising the device as....a mouse?
[16:00] <seest> BluesKay, yes, a menu pops up, what do i have to do with this?
[16:01] <shadeslayer> uh oh... im in the wrong channel....since im using karmic
[16:02] <shadeslayer> genii: sorry
[16:19] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I am back again
[16:27] <aditza> lol man
[16:27] <aditza> if you are a 12 year linux user
[16:27] <aditza> you cant visit #kubuntu channel?
[16:28] <aditza> this channel sucks
[16:28] <aditza> did you know that obama uses kubuntu too?
[16:28] <aditza> any jew user here?
[16:28] <aditza> im going to hack your art design site
[16:28] <aditza> :))
[16:28] <aditza> ubottu i suck
[16:29] <aditza> ubottu jew suckers
[16:29] <aditza> ubottu if linux is epic fail
[16:30] <aditza> HEY NIGGAZ
[16:30] <Dragnslcr> !ops
[16:30] <aditza> THIS CHANNEL SUCKS
[16:30] <aditza> ENCYCLOPEDIA DRAMATICA CLAIMS THAT
[16:30] <aditza> YOU ARE SOME OLD SUCKERS
[16:30] <FloodBotK1> aditza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <aditza> SHUT UP NOT4CHAN USERS
[16:31] <Dragnslcr> Thanks
[16:51] <Lelousius> hi .. i have a problem .. when i update my sound drivers they are reset to the old ones on startup
[16:52] <Lelousius> when i just reset the xserver all is fine
[16:53] <Lelousius> but on the next restart all is gone ,,
[16:56] <seest> hi, i have installed wicd, but i really don't know how to use it? i need wireless connection kubuntu 9.04  hope someone know how to do this and want to guide me. please
[16:57] <Lelousius> click on the wcid symbol in the system tray ?
[16:58] <Lelousius> then it shows the avaible networks
[16:58] <seest> okay and a program open guess it is wicd
[16:58] <Lelousius> title says "Wicd manager" ?
[16:59] <seest> it doesn't show any, (no wireless connections avaible)
[16:59] <Lelousius> oh ..
[16:59] <seest> jep
[16:59] <Lelousius> hmm .. then there are none or your adapter is deactivated
[17:00] <seest> but i am sitting next to our router?
[17:00] <seest> and it use to work
[17:00] <Lelousius> hmm .. has router wlan activated?
[17:01] <seest> yes, i haven't turned something of, and in our others computer (windows) it work
[17:01] <Lelousius> then .. the computer has wlan activated?
[17:01] <seest> yes
[17:02] <Lelousius> hmm .. then there might be drivers not working or missing
[17:02] <seest> okay, ill check what
[17:02] <seest> that*
[17:03] <seest> ohh you just solved my problem, it was the drivers there wasn't activated
[17:38] <zeux> helo all
[17:38] <shyke2a> yop
[17:54] <CyberKitsune> Which source has the KDE 4.3 packages again?
[17:55] <Guest8393> Hi guys.. Im having some type of wierd issue that I can't resolve. I am trying to upgrade tot he new kde 4.3 after a fresh install.. I have added the kubuntu backpots into sources.list and preformed an apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-pgrade but still only have kde4.2
[17:55] <Guest8393> was 4.3 removed from the repos
[17:56] <CyberKitsune> Same thing here
[17:56] <CyberKitsune> I looked at it and it looks like it was either moved or removed
[17:56] <CyberKitsune> idk for sure
[17:56] <jeff8080> CyberKitsune: was 4.3 pulled from the repos?
[17:57] <jeff8080> CyberKitsune: where did you find information, there where no announcments at kubuntu.org
[17:57] <Dragnslcr> Yes, 4.3.0 was pulled from the backports PPA while they prepare the packages for 4.3.1
[17:57] <CyberKitsune> fffffffffffffffffffff
[17:57] <CyberKitsune> When will everything be up again?
[17:58] <jeff8080> Dragnslcr: Is 4.3 to be moved to the main repo now?
[17:58] <Dragnslcr> CyberKitsune- Probably a day or two. 4.3.1 is supposed to be released by the KDE team tomorrow
[17:58] <Dragnslcr> jeff8080- not that I know of
[17:58] <CyberKitsune> KDE 4.2 is giving me tons of drawing bugs, I want to see if 4.3.0 will fix them but, ^
[17:59] <CyberKitsune> I used to be a KDE 3 junkie, when kde 4.0 came out, I stepped away and went to gnome
[17:59] <CyberKitsune> 4.2 reclaimed the desktop though, I can see that.
[18:01] <CyberKitsune> IMO however, the package manager that comes with Kubntu is designed badly
[18:01] <jeff8080> CyberKitsune: Agreed
[18:01] <Dragnslcr> KPackageKit?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, jeff8080 , it's real flaky, unreliable ...aptitude is the way to go IMO
[18:02] <jeff8080> BluesKaj: yea but aptitude is ugly :)
[18:02]  * CyberKitsune apt-get's aptitude
[18:02] <Dragnslcr> Unfortunately, the KDE4 version of Adept was pretty bad, so they had to switch to KPackageKit, which is less bad
[18:02] <BluesKaj> ugly, how ?it's just cli
[18:03] <cor> try synaptic
[18:03] <jeff8080> cor: is syn happy in kubuntu.. I thoguht their where issues
[18:03] <cor> very
[18:03] <shadeslayer> i think kpackagekit is good for normal use,except when you have dist-upgrades.... then its aptitude all the way....
[18:04] <jeff8080> cor: thats silly then.. they should just use syn by default.. unless Kubuntu Devs have issues with gtk apps
[18:04] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, KPackageKit not handling dist-upgrade is a problem
[18:04] <Dragnslcr> jeff8080- synaptic is a Gnome program, so it would never be used in a default KDE installation unless there was no KDE equivalent
[18:04] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, no itdoesn't bring depenencies along as well as aptitude or even synaptic , some ppl are sticking with adept
[18:04] <cor> I generally install updated from the shell, but for searching, all other operations, synaptic is great. I have it running on three separate *ubuntu distros here. flawless
[18:05] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hmm.... it brought dependicies on the last upgrade i did.....
[18:05] <jeff8080> Dragnslcr: ahh.. so the devs don't like gtk apps :) Fair enough
[18:05] <cor> I have adept running on the desktop machine, too. it's not bad.
[18:06] <cor> but really, for the actual updating peeps, use the shell
[18:06] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I've never had a problem with getting dependencies from KPackageKit. The only major issue is that it always does upgrade instead of dist-upgrade, so you can't do things like kernel updates
[18:06] <CyberKitsune> Is there one package that has all the build tools? I haven't used *ubuntu in a while
[18:06] <cor> KPackageKit I avoid like the plague it is
[18:06]  * jeff8080 is searching for his fedora 11 cd
[18:06] <Dragnslcr> The KDE4 version of Adept has a severely broken search function
[18:07] <shadeslayer> ive  never properly used KDE 3.x and i started from 4.x so idk what the fuss is all about :P
[18:08] <reboot_> kde3.5 was great kde4 is buggy and is too different from kde and resembles gnome and windows too much
[18:08] <cor> make an alias for "sudo aptitude install", mine is "sai"
[18:09] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:09] <cor> ;o)
[18:09] <cor> over the course of a year, that can save you HOURS!
[18:09] <cor> and that's time you could be doing better things with!
[18:09] <shadeslayer> cor: i just use tab complete
[18:09] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, Dragnslcr , i'm saying packagekit is unreliable dependency-wise , I'm sure it works sometimes :)
[18:10] <cor> shadeslayer, too slow!
[18:10] <reboot_> i can compile a list over other things that have been suposed to save those hours
[18:10] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: ive only used it twice so i wouldnt know about the problems....its worked both times ive used it
[18:10] <cor> yeah, but good aliases actually do save huge amounts of time. if you use the shell alot, that is
[18:11] <CyberKitsune> Well, I'm plesently surprised how well Kubuntu was working out of the box with my Intel MacBook
[18:11] <CyberKitsune> SuSE had NOTHING
[18:11] <reboot_> sorry i missread, a good alias for aptitude might be good
[18:12] <shadowhywind> hay all, I am trying to setup a network printer via cups. I get to the steps of adding cupsys user to shadows, however the user cupsys does not exist, any ideas?
[18:12] <cor> another super handy thing is a folder view in your panel, with .desktop files of LINKs to locations you need to get to a lot
[18:12] <shadeslayer> shadowhywind: make one?
[18:12] <cor> another for files you need to edit a lot, with the editors included in the command
[18:13] <shadowhywind> shadeslayer: any special flags or anything do I need to add?
[18:13] <reboot_> plasma is one of the things that make me waste hours
[18:13] <cor> sheesh! I've had a week off already from the time those folder views have saved me this Summer
[18:13] <reboot_> and it is still to unstable
[18:13] <shadeslayer> shadowhywind: ive never used cups :P , so dunno...
[18:14] <shadowhywind> shadeslayer: ah, thanks
[18:14] <shadeslayer> shadowhywind: did you see the !cups factoid ?
[18:14] <cor> is the user cupsys reuired?
[18:14] <cor> cups should be easy these days
[18:15] <cor> I put in a lexmark almost without thinking. a LEXMARK!
[18:15] <BluesKaj> just got SP2 for Vista on our Windows machines here , taken over an hr already
[18:15] <shadowhywind> !cups
[18:15] <shadowhywind> shadeslayer: now I have, hehe
[18:15] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:16] <BluesKaj> cor, which lexmark model ?
[18:16] <cor> Z605
[18:16] <cor> shadeslayer, are you using the web interface?
[18:17] <shadeslayer> cor: for irc? nope irssi
[18:17] <cor> for cups
[18:17] <BluesKaj> generic driver or lexmark proprietary
[18:17] <shadeslayer> cor: oh heh,like i said ive used cups
[18:17] <cor> http://localhost:631/printers/
[18:17] <cor> BlueEagle, lexmark driver, I presume
[18:18] <shadeslayer> i know about that though
[18:18] <cor> it was an rpm I converted
[18:18] <BluesKaj> oh that, din't work as a netprinter , wasn't detected
[18:19]  * shadeslayer wonders why ktorrent wasnt updated 9.10
[18:19] <cor> the ppa is best for ktorrent
[18:19] <shadeslayer> +in
[18:19] <shadeslayer> cor: git ftw
[18:19] <CyberKitsune> git
[18:19] <CyberKitsune> no
[18:19] <CyberKitsune> svn
[18:19] <cor> v 3.2.1
[18:19] <BluesKaj> wife's vista pc has a lexmark 5470 , and i tried to use it as netprinter for the laptop , no luck
[18:19] <cor> screw that
[18:20] <shadeslayer> CyberKitsune: git is updated more regularly
[18:20] <CyberKitsune> git is way too confusing though
[18:20] <CyberKitsune> svn is simplier
[18:20] <shadeslayer> CyberKitsune: yeah,but updating in git is easier....
[18:21] <CyberKitsune> Why am I getting drawing errors?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> i have to find out the frigging link of the svn to update
[18:21] <cor> I switched to kubuntu so I didn't have to waste time messing with stuff like that anymore. auto-update alll the way!
[18:21] <shadeslayer> CyberKitsune: cuz you dont know how to draw?
[18:21] <CyberKitsune> every now in then parts of a window just... dissappears and shows the background
[18:21] <CyberKitsune> then I move said window
[18:21] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, yeah svn up doesn't find my working copy and neither can I :)
[18:21] <CyberKitsune> and it comes back... alittle
[18:21] <CyberKitsune> any help?
[18:22] <CyberKitsune> the toolbar in Knonqueror just turned black >.>
[18:22] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: whats in your svn folder? whole of KDE??
[18:24] <cor> actually, I was in error. I checked - my ktorrent came directly from their betas. I must have needed a feature!
[18:24] <cor> they do *ubuntu packages
[18:25] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, my subversion folder ?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> just the usual stuff that come s with sourced pkg
[18:26] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i have a seprate folder for SVN co
[18:27] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, got a path ?
[18:27] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah, ~/Desktop/SVN/
[18:29] <BluesKaj> isn't there a std path that contains svn sfter it's installed ..desktop doesn't seem kosher
[18:30] <shadeslayer> oh... you mean the part where it automatically makes a folder xyz and puts the source into it
[18:31] <BluesKaj> I went to svn site for some advice and got the old RTFM response , so i told the guy why don't they just setup a bot that responds to the questions with that answer so they occupants there don't have to waste their time :)
[18:31] <jeff8080> hey guys.. Im being lazy. how do I go about installing neccesary non-free codecs and video support in kubuntu
[18:32] <shadeslayer> jeff8080: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:32] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[18:32] <jeff8080> shadeslayer: thanks :)
[18:32] <cor> sudo aptitude -y install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:33] <cor> oops!
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ktorrent is finally building
[18:33] <cor> hard to believe someone made a torrent client better than uTorrent
[18:34] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:34] <cor> sure, they achieved this by basically copying it, but hey!
[18:34] <cor> who cares!
[18:34] <cor> has anyone come across a uTorrent > kTorrent RSS filter converter?
[18:35] <cor> actually, gonna copy-paste that around methinks
[18:35] <BluesKaj> cor , actually utorrent runs well in wine on linux
[18:35] <cor> eew!
[18:36] <BluesKaj> i used for a while before ktorrent was dev'd
[18:36] <cor> but now it IS!
[18:36] <cor> developed
[18:36] <jeff8080> cor: Ever hear of rtorrent.. Beautiful and lightweight, coupled with flexget rss hadnler and the wtorrent web gui frontend and your box will automatically  search for and download all your favorite tv episodes, new music releases, movies etc
[18:36] <franz_> Totally new to Kubuntu 9.04 after years running KDE3 versions. How the hell can I put icons (for programs) on my desktop ? I am totally confused!
[18:36] <BluesKaj> well, just some info
[18:36] <cor> I've played with it jeff8080, ypu.
[18:36] <cor> kTorrent does this, too
[18:36] <phh> franz_: just drag and drop them ...
[18:36] <BluesKaj> franz_, in the kmenu right click on the app
[18:37] <franz_> phh: drag from where?  You mean i must create a link and then bring it onto the desktop?
[18:37] <jeff8080> cor: the flexget client is much more powerful then ktorrents simple rss agregator, for example, when a new movie is relaesed flex will check it against imdb.com for user ratings and determine whether or not the movie is good enough to download
[18:37] <phh> franz_: "start" menu
[18:37] <shadeslayer> omg i just realised im in #kubuntu and not #ubuntu+1 :P
[18:38] <franz_> ok thanks phh and BluesKaj
[18:38] <shadeslayer> and thats the 2nd time thats happened to me today
[18:38] <cor> jeff8080, the idea of a computer choosing which movies I should watch makes me shudder
[18:39] <phh> cor: it won't do any guessing, it'll just match your regexps (or alike.)
[18:39] <cor> all I need is to be able to say "get every episode of Better Off Ted, as soon as it is available. or whatever
[18:39] <jeff8080> cor: lol agreed... Ive been awarded with some bombs, but it is actual user submission, "pop-culture" that makes the final say, not that that is any better
[18:39] <f0ster_> hello, I have smb, and I try to connect to a share via konqueror address bar, but it always says permission denied, even though I have the right credentials, has anyone else had this problem ?
[18:40] <cor> really, in all things, simplicity is my number one criteria
[18:40] <jeff8080> cor Automation is king :)
[18:40] <cor> f0ster_, try cifs
[18:40] <BluesKaj> f0ster_, try dolphin / network
[18:40] <cor> jeff8080, hell yeas!
[18:40] <f0ster_> what do you mean, network ?
[18:41] <f0ster_> cor, using mount with -t cifs ?
[18:42] <cor> oh yeah!he's using konq! I cannot believe I missed the chance to sell dolphin!
[18:42] <BluesKaj> f0ster_, it's under places in dolphin
[18:42] <f0ster_> problem is, I only know the domain name of it on the network, i don't know the specific share name, like share.whatever.com is what I have
[18:42] <cor> f0ster_, if it's a resource you use a lot, mount it into a directory with fstab
[18:42] <cor> otherwise cifs://server/share/
[18:43] <cor> or smb://whatever
[18:43] <cor> is smb still supported?
[18:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:43] <f0ster_> hmm my credentials don't seem to work via dolphin/network either
[18:43] <cor> mounting is way smarter, though
[18:43] <cor> are you sure you are using the right credentials?
[18:44] <f0ster_> aha, I had to put my windows domain in first
[18:44] <f0ster_> xxx\user
[18:44] <cor> just user
[18:44] <cor> is it a resource you expect to use a lot???
[18:45] <f0ster_> cor, no, for my credentials to work, i had to login with the windows domain
[18:45] <cor> they worked? cool!
[18:45] <f0ster_> yep, once I put in my domain name
[18:45] <cor> next!
[18:46] <f0ster_> I remember I've had the same problem in windows on other networks
[18:46] <cor> if they share the same workgroup name, it's usually automatic
[18:46] <cor> you still didn't answer my question
[18:46] <BluesKaj> hmm, i just get a rquest for username & pw
[18:46] <f0ster_> cor: if i plan on using it much? fairly often yes
[18:46] <cor> THEN MOUNT IT!
[18:47] <f0ster_> cor: i don't know the share name
[18:47] <cor> all this smb:// malarkey is for amateurs, and one-time access
[18:47] <f0ster_> just the domain name
[18:47] <cor> if you mount the box, you can see the shares
[18:47] <cor> browse, rather
[18:47] <cor> is the windows box not yours?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> cor, capitals aren't necessary , and mounting windows shares can be iffy especilly with vista
[18:48] <cor> pfff
[18:48] <cor> when people are wasting TIME, then yes, capitals are necessary.
[18:48] <cor> skip straight to plan A
[18:49] <f0ster_> cor: correct
[18:50] <cor> my time, I don't mind. I'm here by choice, for fun. but every minute spent fighting some technical issue is time wasted, if you are fighting the WRONG issue
[18:50] <BluesKaj> cor,  i use smb all the time , and it works fine ...if you wanna be a pro then explain to us plebes how to mount it in the dir with fstab :)
[18:50] <cor> np
[18:51] <cor> First, you need a share on the other box that you have access to, obviously
[18:51] <cor> then make a directory somewhere
[18:51] <cor> then create a credentials file in your home folder
[18:51] <cor> let's call it ~/.smbpasswd
[18:51] <cor> touch ~/.smbpasswd
[18:52] <cor> so far so good?
[18:52] <cor> in that file put two lines of text
[18:52] <cor> username=YOURNAME
[18:52] <cor> password=YOURPASSWord
[18:53] <cor> save and chmod 600
[18:53] <cor> then edit /etc/fstab as root
[18:54] <apparle> cor: Now our college has disabled static ip..........how should I reconfigure interfaces file........................should I just remove the address,mask,gateway lines??
[18:54] <cor> it's best to use the cifs protocol, so you may need to install one extra package
[18:54] <cor> disabled static IP ? huh?
[18:55] <cor> we haven't *done* anything yet!
[18:55] <apparle> cor: Yesterday you helped me setup a static ip address with interfaces file :)
[18:55] <jeff8080> Newb question: the version of kde-jockey on backports is seg faulting on my system.. how can I choose the version to install using apt
[18:56] <cor> ahhh yesterday! sheesh! ok, gimme a minute
[18:56] <cor> right, still on cifs...
[18:56] <cor> sudo aptitude -y install smbfs
[18:56] <cor> if you don't have that already
[18:56] <apparle> cor: For me??
[18:56] <jeff8080> apparle: yup
[18:57] <apparle> cor: ok i install smbfs then
[18:57] <dverweire_> apparle: no, that was not for you. :)
[18:57] <cor> kewl. now all you need is a single line in fstab for each share
[18:57] <apparle> jeff8080: ..
[18:57] <cor> heh, no, for jeff8080!
[18:57] <dverweire_> apparle: unless you are trying to get samba shares hooked up.
[18:58] <reboot_> is there any way to make ctrl+alt+backspace work again? without instaling any extra script
[18:58] <cor> heheh
[18:58] <cor> /SERVER/SHARENAME	/PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT	cifs	credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 0
[18:58] <cor>   //SERVER/SHARENAME	/PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT	cifs	credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 0
[18:58] <cor> it stol the first forward slash, so I added a cpl spaces
[18:58] <cor> but that's it. next time you boot, it should be mounted. or simply do..
[18:58] <cor> sudo mount /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT
[18:59] <apparle> reboot_: do you mind using 'AltGr+SysRq+k'
[18:59] <cor> *umount, rather
[18:59] <cor> ooh !! i was right the first time. sorry. got an annoying guest atm!
[19:00] <reboot_> while i would not mind much i still think the old vertion is better if possible
[19:00] <cor> also: sudo mount -a -t cifs should do it, too
[19:01] <cor> which basically mounts all the cifs shares in your fstab. umount works the same way, so you can mount/unmount them all in one go, if required
[19:01] <dverweire_> reboot_: did you try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html?
[19:01] <cor> reboot, yes
[19:01] <cor> it';s in system settings, display
[19:01] <cor> or you can add a wee stanza to xorg.conf
[19:01] <BluesKaj> cor, ok yousaid , then edit /etc/fstab as root..and exactly what edit am i looking to do ?
[19:02] <cor> just add that one line
[19:02] <jeff8080> Sorry for another newb question.. Just not used to apt yet.. How can I use apt to list all available versions of a given package.
[19:02] <cor> brb
[19:02] <reboot_> no, thank
[19:07] <cor> ahh! peace at last!
[19:07] <apparle> cor: my problem?
[19:07] <cor> now I can concentrate
[19:07] <cor> sheesh!
[19:07] <cor> aye, nae bother
[19:07] <cor> one sec while I make a smoke, but type away
[19:08] <genii> jeff8080: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[19:10] <cor> apparle, dude! you'll need to refresh me memory.
[19:11] <apparle> cor: pastebinnig wait
[19:11] <cor> np
[19:13] <apparle> cor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/262657/
[19:14] <BluesKaj> dunno , but smb is working well here , this fstab mounting seems unecessary to me , trying to figure out the fstab parameters is too confusing
[19:17] <cor> apparle,  hmm. assuming the comnents aren't part of it, it looks fine.
[19:17] <cor> BlueEagle, just exactly what I pasted works fine. nothing to figure out
[19:18] <cor> once mounted, you can access the folder *exactly* like it was a local folder. ~/Documents, for me, is the same place, nomatter what machine I'm using.
[19:18] <cor> for example
[19:19] <cor> if you wanna use smb:// that's okay, but I'm just saying, it's worth the effort to get it mounted properly.
[19:19] <cor> then you never have to think about it again.
[19:20] <cor> at least, use cifs:// in dolphin, though, it's faster
[19:23] <apparle> cor: But you missed the point..........now I want to remove the static ip system
[19:23] <cor> so replace all that with one line. Wham!
[19:23] <cor> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:24] <cor> after auto eth0
[19:24] <apparle> cor: ok............thanks
[19:24] <cor> you didn't read that man page, did ya?
[19:24] <cor> that was rhetorical
[19:25] <cor> if you do ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0, it will use the new settings
[19:25] <apparle> cor: I read it but I just wanted to confirm.....................not so used to linux :)
[19:25] <cor> np dude
[19:26] <Pavel> help needed w/ samba configuration/printing
[19:26] <apparle> cor: thanks
[19:26] <cor> np
[19:26] <cor> Pavel, just ask
[19:27] <Pavel> stuff ain't printing, basically.  Trying to print wirelessly to an hp...
[19:27] <apparle> cor: Just asking what is the default system for internet..........DHCP??
[19:27] <cor> apparle, it depends on the system/ISP/OS/who you ask.
[19:28] <Pavel> cor: I've been through the localhost:631 thing and my computer is definitely recognizing the printer, but nothing gets put out
[19:28] <cor> DHCP is usually the default setup on new OS, though.
[19:28] <cor> Pavel, what does the error log say?
[19:28] <Pavel> there's no error log, just inactivity
[19:28] <cor> Pavel, there is *always* an error log!
[19:29] <cor> see /var/log/
[19:29] <cor> or Alt-F1 to bring up the Kickoff menu and type logs
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[19:30] <apparle> cor: If I have kubutnu fresh install and just connected the LAN wire...........then what is the ethernet configuration?? Just for knowledge
[19:30] <Pavel> cor: alright, which files should I be looking for?
[19:31] <Pavel> rather, which log am I looking for?
[19:31] <cor> apparle, like most OS, kubuntu comes setup for DHCP by default
[19:31] <cor> Pavel, cups?
[19:31] <Pavel> nothing
[19:32] <cor> apparle, it's the setting most likely to get a user connected, see
[19:32] <nit> hello pple.... noob here.... can someone show me around??
[19:32] <nit> :P
[19:32] <cor> Pavel, there isn't a "cups" folder in there???
[19:32] <apparle> cor: ok thanks...............and what settings the network manager uses as default?
[19:33] <cor> apparle, the first thing I do in a fresh install is remove network manager, so I dunno
[19:33] <cor> but it should use dhcp
[19:33] <Pavel> cor, okay got it
[19:33] <cor> nit, show you areound what?
[19:33] <cor> brb
[19:34] <BluesKaj> cor you posted this //SERVER/SHARENAME/PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINTcifscredentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 0
[19:35] <cor> except with tabs. hmm
[19:35] <cor> I'll do it with spaces, one sec
[19:35] <BluesKaj> server is ? sharename is ? path to mountpoint is what ? cifs credentials is what ?
[19:36] <cor>  //SERVER/SHARENAME    /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT    cifs    credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 0
[19:36] <BluesKaj> doesn't tell me anything
[19:36] <cor> wow
[19:36] <nit> yeah wow....
[19:37] <BluesKaj> dunno anythingh about stab
[19:37] <nit> hey btw whats it doing samba config??
[19:37] <cor> what can I say. it's a line of text. you put it in /etc/fstab, replaceing my obvious generic details with your own
[19:37] <cor> and then save
[19:37] <BluesKaj> you guys can wow if you want , but it doesn't help
[19:37] <Pavel> nit, what's your problem?
[19:38] <cor> what can I add? what's confusing? seriously, tell me!
[19:38] <nit> well i do have one... kde just freezes on my laptop.....
[19:38] <Pavel> nit, are you dual-booting it with anything?  What version of kde are you running?
[19:39] <cor> SERVER = the machine with the shares you want to access
[19:39] <nit> no  dual boot ...
[19:39] <nit> kde 4...
[19:39] <cor> SHARENAME = the name of the share ON that server, maybe "Share", or "Documents", who knows what you/they called it
[19:39] <Pavel> nit, I assume you're running kubuntu 9.04, right
[19:39] <BluesKaj> server is windows pc right? / sharename would be windows shares or C:\ if the whole drive is shared ..so far ?
[19:40] <nit> ubuntu with kde pack.....
[19:40] <htrejh> hi
[19:40] <cor>  /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT is the actual path of an actual folder on your system, empty, and waiting to have a remote volume mounted IN to it
[19:40] <htrejh> i got a second HDD (on IDE), how can i access it with dolphin?
[19:40] <htrejh> doesnt it mount automatically?
[19:40] <nit> does that matter btw?? havent heard anywhere ?
[19:40] <htrejh> strange it worked before when it was in ntfs :s
[19:40] <nit> i mean keeping both gnome and kde together?
[19:40] <cor> credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd is that credentials file we made; plain text with two simple lines, username and password
[19:41] <Pavel> nit, it shouldn't necessarily, but you are giving your computer a little more work to do than just running straight kubuntu
[19:41] <dverweire_> cor: did you discuss using smb4k with BluesKaj?
[19:41] <nit> yeah that i am....
[19:41] <cor> nope
[19:41] <dverweire_> is that an option?
[19:41] <cor> the idea is to get the share mounted transparently
[19:41] <cor> for simple access, dolphin is fine
[19:41] <Pavel> nit, is there anything specific causing the freezing?  Does it happen with a certain program?
[19:41] <dverweire_> as long long as smb4k starts when the kde session does, then it will be transparently mounted.
[19:42] <cor> smb4k is handy for raiding the local community WiFi network, though!
[19:42] <BluesKaj> dverweire_, I use smb already , cor thinks using an fstab mountpoint is easier
[19:42] <nit> just today i had a kdevelop  open and the moment i started konversation ...bang.....
[19:42] <cor> the system is using it anyway, to mount your hard drive volumes
[19:42] <cor> it makes most sense, and for me at least, is waay easier than these other methods
[19:43] <Pavel> nit, do you know how much available memory you have?
[19:43] <htrejh> please, how can i browse my second HDD?
[19:43] <dverweire_> BluesKaj: smb4k mounts shares the same way setting them up in fstab does. the only differences is that fstab will be loaded at system start and smb4k only sets them up when you log into kde
[19:43] <nit> btw by freezing i mean complete freez .....the mouse pointer can move  and nothing else...
[19:43] <cor> another reason not to use it for this!
[19:43] <cor> heh
[19:43] <BluesKaj> cor, done that with smb , already ...got a neighbour with unsecured wifi, unbelievable
[19:43] <nit> yeah 512   mb  ram ... on a lenovo thinkpad......
[19:43] <cor> man! it's crazy the amount of open shares there are out there!
[19:44]  * cor like to leave wee notes
[19:44] <Pavel> cor, are you available again? I saw you were going in a few directions...
[19:44] <nit> not enough for kde 4?
[19:44] <cor> always around somewhere, dude!
[19:45] <cor> how do the logs look?
[19:45] <BluesKaj> dverweire_, yeah I used the smb4k browser gui in the past , worked ok , smb with konqeror or dolphin works ok too
[19:45] <cor> anything obvious?
[19:45] <cor> cifs, people!
[19:45] <cor> it is F A S T E R
[19:45] <Pavel> cor, it's mostly 'found printer' notifications
[19:45] <cor> no errors?
[19:46] <Pavel> not that I can see..
[19:46] <Pavel> I've had a document pending for 40 minutes and someone else successfully printed within that span
[19:46] <dverweire_> BluesKaj: i use smb4k to mount my shares everyday. it starts when kde starts and remembers the shares i last mounted. not need to modify fstab. but then again, you only get those mounts when you start kde
[19:46] <BluesKaj> dverweire_, smb4k has come along way since dapper :)
[19:46] <dverweire_> BluesKaj: so it works great if you are a desktop gui user, not so much if you prefer the tty command line.
[19:47] <Pavel> cor so I don't think it's an error so much as a connection problem
[19:47] <cor> in Linux, there is always more than one way to skin a cat. I love that. so long as we know about *all* the ways, we can choose the pne we prefer
[19:47] <cor> Pavel, are you sure your credentials are correct? have you successfully pronted to the hp before?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> dverweire_, I use both cli and gui , but I do prefer cli for most installs and updates etc
[19:47] <Pavel> cor, I found some 'no authentication provided' logs...
[19:47] <cor> aha!
[19:48] <Pavel> cor, I've printed a test page from printer configuration in the past but that's it
[19:48] <cor> check you are using your username IN the url for the printer
[19:48] <cor> i.e. soandso@host/doodah
[19:49] <cor> it's been a while since I've printed over samba, but I remember having to do that myself
[19:49] <Pavel> set that up in samba you mean?
[19:49] <cor> I use lpd these days, easier
[19:49] <cor> in the printer configuration, yeah
[19:49] <Pavel> hey, if you have recommendations I'll hear them...
[19:49] <cor> http://localhost:631/printers/
[19:49] <dverweire_> BluesKaj: lol. i'm sure it has. i started using it in gutsy, and it's come a long way since then.
[19:49] <nit> hey pple i want to reconfigure my mouse buttons ....can smone point out the right channel to go to?
[19:50] <nit> or cor do u wanna have a looksee?
[19:51] <Pavel> cor, alright, how should I go through that site?  I have the printer found...
[19:51] <cor> I haven't configured buttons in X for like a decade. so erm I'll pass
[19:51] <cor> site?
[19:51] <Pavel> cor, er, localhost.
[19:51] <nit> yeah ..k ...
[19:51] <cor> that's the CUPS configuration
[19:52] <cor> I thought you knew about that!
[19:52] <cor> oh well! rake around there for a minute.
[19:52] <dverweire_> BluesKaj: i just want to be clear in case you didn't know that using smb4k allows you to access the smb shares from cli, just like fstab does.
[19:53] <cor> or at least, it can be setup to act this way
[19:58] <hagabaka> is there a command to restore the display resolution when a program changed it?
[20:02] <nicklas_> hey, the built in compiz manager in kubuntu works out of the box, or i have to install some plugin to get effects working?
[20:03] <Laeborg> is ATI Radeon HD 4650 good supported in kubuntu 9.04 ?
[20:05] <shafqat> hagabaka: you can use krandrtray for the systray program or xrandr for command line
[20:06] <hagabaka> thanks
[20:06] <shafqat> no problem :)
[20:07] <shafqat> nicklas_: Kubuntu uses KWin instead of compiz. And it does work out of the box. Go to System Settings>Desktop>Desktop Effects>All Effects to see the effects available.
[20:09] <nicklas_> shafqat: ok :-) goodie
[20:09] <nicklas_> shafqat: i had some faint memory that it didnt, but maybe i remember it wrong :-P
[20:10] <nicklas_> shafqat: ive gotten tired of gnome a little bit, so wanna run kde for a while instead
[20:10] <shafqat> hehe. I understand ;)
[20:10] <noquinho> how do i instal xmms ?
[20:10] <nicklas_> its hard to find the perfect window manager
[20:11] <nicklas_> noquinho: package manager or sudo apt-get install xmms in konsole
[20:11] <shafqat> nicklas_: I guess it depends what you want in a WM
[20:12] <nicklas_> shafqat: yeah
[20:12] <muskaotik> can someone tell me how mount my Iphone plz ? i plug it into usb and he his not recognized
[20:12] <nicklas_> shafqat: ive tried openbox and fluxbox too, but they are a little too basic for me
[20:12] <noquinho> nicklas,,, i did
[20:12] <nicklas_> noquinho: then what is the problem?
[20:12] <shafqat> KWin is looking pretty good coming up though. Two GSoC projects were on it this year. There should be tabbing and tiling support for it in KDE 4.4
[20:13] <nicklas_> shafqat: :-D
[20:13] <noquinho> i have a folder here . Xmms 1.2.11
[20:13] <noquinho> but i dont know how to install
[20:13] <nicklas_> noquinho: is it .tar.gz ?
[20:13] <noquinho> hold on please
[20:14] <noquinho> yes
[20:14] <nicklas_> noquinho: that is source files, you need to compile them first and then install them manually, it is easier ways to install programs
[20:15] <nicklas_> noquinho: do as i said, either open the gui for the package manager, search for xmms and install it, or in console, write sudo apt-get install xmms and then enter
[20:16] <nicklas_> for konsole you need to know your root/user password
[20:16] <noquinho> ok, i will
[20:20] <noquinho> i did, but he says the package xmms is not available
[20:24] <spacelime> hello!
[20:25] <spacelime> could someone help me getting sound to work?
[20:25] <spacelime> it workes fine everywher except in browsers
[20:27] <cor> so maybe the question should be, "can someone help me get my browser to work?", except an actual question, of course
[20:27] <BluesKaj> cor ,the fstab edit :  /margaret-pc/C:/users/margaret ~/Vista /home/kaj/.smbpassword,rw,uid=kaj,gid=adm 0 0   how does that look to you ?
[20:27] <cor> it looks bad
[20:27] <BluesKaj> hehe
[20:27] <cor> the C:/ bits aren't necessary, every share has a "name"
[20:28] <cor>  //SERVER/SHARE
[20:28] <spacelime> cor... eeer.. thank you, that was helpful
[20:28] <cor> and for the mount point I've not tried ~/relative linking
[20:29] <cor> I'd stick to /home/kaj/Vista
[20:29] <cor> and double-check the spelling of your credentials file
[20:30] <cor> THEN it should work!
[20:30] <cor> remember to chmod 600 ~/name-of-samba-credentials-file
[20:30] <cor> you don't want any tom dick and harry reading your password
[20:30] <BluesKaj> yeah , done that
[20:31] <BluesKaj> what about spaces between the slashes
[20:31] <cor> also, the "cifs" part is missing
[20:31] <cor> !
[20:32] <cor> never spaces between slashes, only between the entries
[20:32] <BluesKaj> uhoh , where
[20:32] <shadowhywind> hay all, I am trying to connect my printer with samba, when i try to add it as a printer in windows, It asks for username/password and then just says'you don't have access to the printer. any ideas?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> cifs i mean
[20:32] <cor>  //SERVER/SHARENAME    /PATH/TO/MOUNT/POINT    cifs    credentials=/home/YOURNAME/.smbpasswd,rw,uid=YOURNAME,gid=adm 0 0
[20:33] <cor> shadowhywind, is the printer attached to the kubuntu box?
[20:33] <spacelime> hmm.... wonder if it could have to do with flash? is flash player only for flash content or does it play for example .ogg? i'm trying to figure out what player is running when i drop an ogg file in firefox
[20:33] <cor> pirefox prefs
[20:33] <cor> *f
[20:33] <shadowhywind> cor: yes, going to the web admin page, I can print a test page, on both kubuntu on windows
[20:34] <spacelime> cor: i checked the prefs but strangely enough it's just about 6 entries for filetypes and .ogg is not listed...
[20:34] <cor> shadowhywind, did you try supplying a username and password?
[20:34] <cor> spacelime, strange! add it, then.
[20:34] <shadowhywind> cor: yes, and nothing I have tried seams to work
[20:34] <a> \whois paris
[20:34] <spacelime> just swf, spl and a few more
[20:35] <cor> shadowhywind, did you try adding the username into the url.. name@host
[20:35] <cor> instead of just host
[20:35] <shadowhywind> cor: that I have not tried
[20:35] <shadowhywind> cor: would it be username@host:631/printers/...
[20:35] <cor> erm, no
[20:36] <cor> that's the cups page on your own machine
[20:36] <cor> I mean in the URL *of* the printer
[20:37] <shadowhywind> cor: now I am confused, in windows "print wizard" the URL i am using is, http://host_ip/printers/printer_name. Is that not correct?
[20:37] <shadowhywind> opps sorry for the false link
[20:37] <cor> I don't have windows around anymore, but when I did, I found the easiest way to get them all using the same printer, was to put it on the windows box, and add/remove (add!) UNIX print services, then it's drop-dead simple with lpd
[20:38] <cor> dunno dude, it may be.
[20:38] <cor> whatever it is, add the user into it!
[20:38] <jipang_menjerit> hi everyone
[20:38] <shadowhywind> cor: lol
[20:39] <jipang_menjerit> want to ask something
[20:39] <jipang_menjerit> why my Kubuntu can't mount XP ntfs hard drive?
[20:39] <cor> even with samba, it's usually easier if the printer is on the windows box, I've found
[20:39] <cor> jipang_menjerit, it can!
[20:39] <jipang_menjerit> cor: but I got error
[20:40] <jipang_menjerit> don't know why
[20:40] <cor> okay, but that doesn't mean it *can't* do it
[20:40] <cor> that just means it *isn't* doing it
[20:40] <jipang_menjerit> err..
[20:40] <jipang_menjerit> my mistake :p
[20:40] <cor> what was the error exactly?
[20:40] <jipang_menjerit> not sure
[20:40] <jipang_menjerit> wait..I copy the error
[20:40] <cor> well, not sure how to help, then
[20:40] <cor> good!
[20:41] <cor> brb
[20:41] <jipang_menjerit> [ 4808.870361] snd: bad kfree (called from f96bb430)
[20:42] <alucardromero> Hello everyboy! :)
[20:42] <alucardromero> everybody*
[20:43] <jipang_menjerit> :)
[20:43] <alucardromero> Any reason why Kubuntu 9.04 doesn't recognize my other partitions on install's partition manager?
[20:44] <BoumBoum> cleaning
[20:44] <BoumBoum> thats what i m on about
[20:45] <cor> jipang_menjerit, looks like the drive needs fixed. maybe try ntfsfix (or better, boot into windows and check it)
[20:45] <jipang_menjerit> cor: already done it..but still the same
[20:45] <jipang_menjerit> in fact, I can mount it in gnome
[20:46] <jipang_menjerit> I'm using 9.10
[20:46] <cor> that error, are you sure that's the one from the ntfs mount?
[20:46] <cor> what are you doing to mount it?
[20:47] <jipang_menjerit> it's my XP hard drive
[20:47] <cor> yeah
[20:47] <jipang_menjerit> just need to grab some files in there
[20:47] <jipang_menjerit> but after I upgrade it to 9.10
[20:47] <jipang_menjerit> this thing happened
[20:47] <cor> gnome uses the same tools to mount ntfs as kde!
[20:48] <jipang_menjerit> that's why I'm confused
[20:48] <cor> can you *still* mount it in gnome? after the upgrade?
[20:48] <jipang_menjerit> so, asking the pros
[20:48] <jipang_menjerit> yup
[20:48] <cor> weird
[20:48] <cor> so, how are you mouning it?
[20:49] <jipang_menjerit> err, just click the partition in Dolphin
[20:49] <Riddell> ** in 10 minutes there will be a tutorial in writing Plasmoids in Python in #ubuntu-classroom
[20:49] <user____> hi!
[20:49] <cor> and I'm no pro with ntfs, I only mounted my first one in Linux last week!
[20:49] <cor> jipang_menjerit, and where did you get that error message?
[20:49] <jipang_menjerit> cor: dmesg
[20:49] <user____> I was so bumb to manrually rm a seamonkey directory. and now I cannot use apt-get anymore. Can somebody help?
[20:50] <cor> try running dolhin from a terminal, and then click the partition. you may get more informative errors
[20:50] <cor> personally, I'd start with re-installing the ntfs stuff, fuse and all
[20:50] <jipang_menjerit> ok
[20:52] <user____> apt-get does not install other aps ,as I first want's to complete the deinstall and aborts with error messages for semonkey.  post-removal script gives error code 1 and 127
[20:52] <cor> also, if you logout and into gnome, you could mount it, and check mtab, see how it mounted. logout and back to kde, it should still be mounted.
[20:52] <user____> any way to solve that?
[20:52] <cor> maybe re-install apt from the original CD .deb
[20:53] <user____> but I think the prob is not apt itself but the missing direcotries and files from seamonkey that I had deleted manuall,y. so a new apt would also fail to delete them
[20:53] <cor> sure, but I', thinking apt installing will fix any such problems
[20:54] <cor> just a wild hunch
[20:54] <jipang_menjerit> cor: I just found this error message
[20:54] <user____> how do i install apt without apt?
[20:54] <jipang_menjerit> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-skyvalve" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[20:54] <cor> good question!
[20:54] <cor> that's what makes it so wild!
[20:55] <jipang_menjerit> erk?
[20:55] <jipang_menjerit> any explaination?
[20:55] <jhutchins> Is there a ppc version of kubuntu?
[20:55] <user____> is there no way to tell apt to only remove what he finds still from this package and ignore things already removed?? I tried also suo apt-get -f check  - no success
[20:55] <cor> install apt-get
[20:56] <cor> you tried sudo aptitiude ?
[20:57] <user____> cor: same there
[20:58] <cor> jipang_menjerit, sorry, just spotted your error message. strange permission error for /tmp !
[20:58] <cor> have you rebooted since the upgrade?
[20:59] <jipang_menjerit> cor: yup..actually I've upgraded it since alpha 2
[20:59] <jipang_menjerit> nohing happened untull upgrade to alpha 3
[20:59] <jipang_menjerit> *untill
[20:59] <user____> yes
[20:59] <cor> you do realize you are running beta test version of OS. right?
[21:00] <jipang_menjerit> cor: yup..but mu laptot that running same version did not make this problem
[21:00]  * jipang_menjerit lot's of typo
[21:03] <cor> it's just that expecting the usual troubleshooting steps is less useful with beta releases. "something broke" is the answer!
[21:03] <cor> *to work
[21:04] <jipang_menjerit> cor: nvm..maybe need to wait new upgrade
[21:04] <jipang_menjerit> cor: thanks for helping
[21:04] <cor> it sounds like a permissions promlem that deleting that folder would fix. but that should happen at reboot
[21:05] <cor> is it asking for authorisation?
[21:05] <jipang_menjerit> cor: nope
[21:05] <cor> I need to give root authentication to mount ntfs in kde
[21:05] <cor> maybe it's sending the wrong auth in the background. check your wallet
[21:06] <jipang_menjerit> ok
[21:06] <cor> I put them in fstab now ;o)
[21:08] <noquinho> how do i install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz from my desktop ?
[21:08] <BluesKaj> well , cor, no luck yet with fstab
[21:08] <jipang_menjerit> lol
[21:08] <cor> BlueEagle, are you getting errors?
[21:09] <cor> oops! ferkin auto-complete!
[21:09] <cor> BluesKaj, are you getting errors?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> not getting anything in the Vista folder
[21:10] <cor> yeah, but what does it say if you try to mount it from a shell?
[21:11] <cor> mount -a -t cifs
[21:11] <cor> sudo..
[21:11] <jipang_menjerit> cor: just the same..got same error
[21:12] <cor> that was for BluesKaj sorry.
[21:12] <BluesKaj> cor ,mount ~/Vista  [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab ,  mount: can't find /home/kaj/Vista in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:13] <cor> so you add a newline on /etc/fstab and try again
[21:13] <jipang_menjerit> cor: yup..i see..but I already check the wallet..just the same
[21:13] <cor> ALWAYS have an extra newline at the end of all UNIX config files
[21:14] <cor> jipang_menjerit, try sudo -H dolphin
[21:16] <jipang_menjerit> <unknown program name>(6675)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server:  "//bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified
[21:16] <BluesKaj> cor , what text would this new line contain ?
[21:16] <cor> BluesKaj, nothing, just hit enter one time after all the existing text
[21:16] <BluesKaj> now he tells me ..oh lord
[21:16] <cor> it *must* contain nothing
[21:16] <cor> it's standard unix practice
[21:17] <cor> Apchache falls over with it, lots of things
[21:17] <cor> the only files I don't terminate, are php
[21:18] <cor> nothing goes outside those tags!
[21:20] <noquinho> how do i install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz from my desktop ?
[21:20] <jipang_menjerit> noquinho: already extract it?
[21:21] <jipang_menjerit> cor: found this error
[21:21] <jipang_menjerit> <unknown program name>(6675)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server:  "//bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified
[21:21] <noquinho> yes
[21:22] <jipang_menjerit> noquinho: I'm not really sure about this
[21:22] <jipang_menjerit> noquinho: why don't you try audacious
[21:22] <jipang_menjerit> ?
[21:22] <jipang_menjerit> :P
[21:23] <noquinho> because i need xmms to run gtkpod
[21:23] <jipang_menjerit> i see
[21:23] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. I need to install a library. When i do sudo apt-get install libstdc++ and hit tab (to check it ecists in the rep) i get the library i want. When i goto install it i get the message: E: Couldn't find package libstdc
[21:23] <[-Haza-]> Its like its lookign for the wrong package? :s
[21:23] <[-Haza-]> Any thoughts?
[21:25] <jipang_menjerit> noquinho: try to config it firdt
[21:25] <jipang_menjerit> *first
[21:25] <cor> jipang_menjerit, that's too strange for me. I'd reinstall the ntfs stuff
[21:26] <jipang_menjerit> cor: haha..actually..it is strange..
[21:26] <jipang_menjerit> maybe I should wait for the beta version
[21:27] <cor> I only ever put the alphas and betas on spare machines, for this very reason
[21:27] <cor> and even then, a full backup beforehand!
[21:28] <jipang_menjerit> cor: yeah..actually I kind fun help Kubuntu developer by submitting bugs
[21:28] <jipang_menjerit> :p
[21:28] <Lelousius> hi
[21:28] <cor> you might want to ask in #kde, too, there are smarter tech-heads than me in there!
[21:29] <cor> I gotta dash to the shops, bbiab
[21:29] <Lelousius> i have a problem .. i want to install the realtek sound drivers ..but the old ones are allways there when i restart
[21:29] <cor> blacklist!
[21:29] <cor> l*rz..
[21:29] <jipang_menjerit> cor: good idea..but maybe another time..
[21:29] <jipang_menjerit> need some rest..ti's 4am here
[21:29] <jipang_menjerit> *it's
[21:30] <Lelousius> any idea?
[21:31] <jipang_menjerit> Lelousius: blacklist it
[21:31] <Lelousius> how?
[21:32] <jipang_menjerit> Lelousius: sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:32] <jipang_menjerit> then, paste the driver there..at the bottom line
[21:33] <alexandernst> I'm trying to upgrade pyqt4 bindings but python-qt4-common will be removed if I do so. Whats going on? (I'm on 9.04 x64)
[21:33] <jipang_menjerit> alexandernst: not really sure about that
[21:33] <Lelousius> so i'll type "HDA STI SB"  ?
[21:33] <jipang_menjerit> :p
[21:34] <alexandernst> =)
[21:34] <kaddi> hi, anyone else having problem with Firefox 3.52 eating up all CPU?
[21:34] <alexandernst> Could you check it?
[21:34] <CyberKitsune_> Use Konqueror
[21:34] <kaddi> that really helps, thanks :p
[21:34] <jipang_menjerit> kaddi: lol
[21:35] <jipang_menjerit> Lelousius: find the driver detail..then paste it
[21:35] <jipang_menjerit> kaddi: already try upgrad it?
[21:35] <jipang_menjerit> lol...now I'm helping them
[21:35] <jipang_menjerit> *upgrade
[21:35] <kaddi> it's the latest release
[21:35] <CyberKitsune_> Is the Intel X3100 a crappy GPU or do I not have the right drivers installed?
[21:35] <kaddi> firefox 3.0 works fine
[21:35] <kaddi> CyberKitsune_: are you on jaunty?
[21:35] <kaddi> !intel
[21:35] <CyberKitsune> Yes
[21:36] <CyberKitsune> Oh
[21:36]  * jipang_menjerit on Karmic
[21:36] <CyberKitsune> we have a botcommand for it, sad :(
[21:36] <kaddi> I have a X3100 (I think) and upgrading to a newer kernel and a later x really helped
[21:36] <kaddi> we have indeed :p and it has helped a LOT of people ;)
[21:37] <jipang_menjerit> brb
[21:37] <Lelousius> so i do "lspci" and i find "Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)" .. is that right?
[21:40] <CyberKitsune> kaddi: Do I need to add another source to upgrade versions? All of my current packages are up to date
[21:41] <kaddi> CyberKitsune:  yes, have a look at the links, they describe how to upgrade quite nicely
[21:51] <BluesKaj> smb4k seems a good compromise between vs fstab edits (which I couldn't make work) for mounting network shares
[21:52] <CyberKitsune> I'm following the instructions on the forums but
[21:52] <CyberKitsune> "Note: If you are using Kubuntu or a custom distribution of Ubuntu that does not use the GNOME Display Manager (GDM), you need to execute the fixmtrr.sh script each time X (re)starts. Therefore, executing this script in your rc.local script is not sufficient."
[21:53] <CyberKitsune> So, is there a way to set it so every time KDM runs the script executes?
[21:53] <CyberKitsune> er X
[21:56] <CyberKitsune> anyone?
[21:57] <kaddi> CyberKitsune: it's been a while since I did this, to my recollection I didn't use that script and from looking at I can't tell what it does either..
[21:57] <kaddi> but I had help myself back then, so I'm sorry to say I can't really help you on this
[21:57] <CyberKitsune> well, I may not need the script completely
[21:57] <kaddi> maybe check the following pages in the thread, there have to be some more kubuntu users that asked the question
[21:59] <kaddi> CyberKitsune: are you experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/314928
[22:01] <CyberKitsune> kaddi: No, but I am getting MANY drawing errors and curropted graphics in KDE's apps
[22:01] <CyberKitsune> It's annoying
[22:02] <CyberKitsune> and really bad 3D preformance
[22:02] <kaddi> the script is a fix to that special bug, so if you do not have that bug, my guess is you do not need to run that script at startup and can simply update the kernel and x-server
[22:02] <CyberKitsune> and X overall
[22:02] <CyberKitsune> ok
[22:04] <CyberKitsune> Doing dist-upgrade atm
[22:06] <Lelousius> anyone here who knows how the blacklist works / what i have to add?
[22:07] <CyberKitsune> man backlist?
[22:07]  * CyberKitsune shot
[22:08] <Lelousius> driver blacklist
[22:09] <Lelousius>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:09] <Lelousius> what do i have to add in therewhen i don't want dome drivers to be loaded
[22:10] <Lelousius> "snd_hda_intel"  or  "ATI Technologies ..."
[22:16] <BluesKaj> Lelousius, blacklist = nameofdriver
[22:16] <Lelousius> how do i get it? lsmod ? lspci ?
[22:17] <BluesKaj> aplay -l
[22:17] <Lelousius> Karte 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], Gerät 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]   Untergeordnete Geräte: 0/1   Untergeordnetes Gerät '0: subdevice #0 Karte 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], Gerät 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]   Untergeordnete Geräte: 1/1   Untergeordnetes Gerät '0: subdevice #0
[22:18] <Lelousius> so .. what is it now? *confused*
[22:18] <BluesKaj> take the one in the first set of brackets HDA ATI SB
[22:18] <Lelousius> ok thx
[22:18] <BluesKaj> or ALC888
[22:19] <Lelousius> so i'll add "blacklist HDA ATI SB"
[22:19] <BluesKaj> Lelousius, try ALC888 instaed
[22:19] <BluesKaj> instead
[22:20] <thejayjetson_> bluetooth mouse has be set up each time upon log in-how can i get it to auto connect?
[22:20] <thejayjetson_> bluetooth mouse has be set up each time upon log in-how can i get it to auto connect?
[22:21] <thejayjetson_> xubuntu 9.04
[22:22] <BluesKaj> thejayjetson_, /join #xubuntu
[22:23] <thejayjetson_> bluetooth mouse has be set up each time upon log in-how can i get it to auto connect?  xubuntu 9.04
[22:24] <thejayjetson_> can any help me out with bluetooth auto pairing?
[22:27] <BluesKaj> !patience | thejayjetson_
[22:39] <CyberKitsune_> Ok, so
[22:39] <CyberKitsune_> The new kernal worked, and seemed faster...
[22:39] <CyberKitsune_> ...but broke my WiFi
[22:40] <CyberKitsune_> So, I'm using the older kernal with newer drivers
[22:40] <Linuce> every upgrade had goods things... and bad taste. boring
[22:44] <CyberKitsune> !intel
[22:50] <enrico_> salve
[22:51] <enrico_> salve
[23:10] <ubuntu> just installed AMP with apt-get but can not parse PHP files for some reasons?
[23:11] <ubuntu> changed the apache2.conf with  AddType's two lines but no joy
[23:12] <ubuntu> cor: are you breathing, dude?
[23:13] <dverweire_> ubuntu: i think cor "went to the shops"
[23:13] <ubuntu> fair enough
[23:13] <cor> I'm around, just got head head in a script
[23:14] <ubuntu> cor, no worries, i'll hang around then untill you are free
[23:14] <cor> AMP is a mistake imho. install apache on it's own, add php module. wham!
[23:14] <cor> just ask, I'm here now!
[23:14] <ubuntu> cor. ta
[23:14] <cor> I needed a break anyway
[23:14] <ubuntu> cor, I apt-get'ed them both
[23:15] <ubuntu> apache2 displays it's famous 'It works' page but phpinfo() gets downloaded instead of being parsed
[23:16] <ubuntu> one thing to mention, though
[23:16] <ubuntu> when i was installing php, apt-get offered php5-cli
[23:17] <ubuntu> did i integrate php5 into ap2 properly or screwed it up?
[23:17] <cor> either should work, but for cgi, your scripts need a shebang, or some kind of suexec package
[23:19] <cor> you can install it fine, though, it's handy. but to use it from the web-side takes more effort
[23:19] <cor> php module is fine for dev/home use
[23:19] <ubuntu> i need it just as a local sandbox. what would be a minimalist setting for Apache and PHP?
[23:19] <cor> erm, that be cgi, sorry. similar but not he same
[23:20] <cor> I'd remove AMP
[23:20] <cor> I've never understood it. it doesn't make anything any easier, only introduces complexity, imo
[23:20] <cor> libapache2-mod-php5 is what I use here
[23:21] <ubuntu> OK
[23:21] <cor> works with the mpm-prefork apache
[23:21] <cor> it's probably not as efficient as other methods, but it's easy to get working
[23:22] <cor> and you can install other modules with simple apt-get php-gd for example
[23:22] <ubuntu> i used to think in the linux world you can install LAMP with a few clicks or few lines.
[23:23] <ubuntu> ok. let's try apt-get
[23:23] <cor> with these packages, you don't even need that, just install and go
[23:23] <ubuntu> k
[23:23] <cor> you can add sites by simplt dropping conf files into the sites-enabled folder, pretty easy, really
[23:25] <ubuntu> can i install Apache, MySQL and PHP using the Ubuntu package manager?
[23:26] <cor> sure
[23:26] <cor> aptitude install php5-mysql
[23:26] <ubuntu> k
[23:27] <cor> I don't use mysql myself, so I can't help much with that side
[23:27] <ubuntu> here we go, seems to be cooking now
[23:28] <ubuntu> boy, was it quick
[23:28] <ubuntu> let me test my phpinfo()
[23:29] <pteague> is there some reason that kate enjoys crashing on me?
[23:29] <cor> nah, she's just moody by nature
[23:30] <cor> having said that, for all her flaws here, I don't see her crashing much. run her from a shell command and watch what's happening underneath
[23:31] <cor> ubuntu, it working?
[23:31] <pteague> alt+tabbing between kate & another app sometimes causes kate to repaint very slowly, other times it's almost instantly... no idea why...  sometimes when trying to save something opening the save dialog will result in kate simply hanging...  i don't remember having this much problems with kate under 3/3.5
[23:31]  * _3vi1_ is away: Gone away for now
[23:31] <ubuntu> nop
[23:31] <cor> that sounds like underlying kde trying to access network shares or something
[23:31] <ubuntu> still the same
[23:31] <cor> what error you getting?
[23:32] <ubuntu> the test.php download box pops up
[23:32] <ubuntu> could it be a file association mix up?
[23:32] <cor> you installed libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[23:32] <ubuntu> i used to have similar stuff on suse
[23:32] <ubuntu> nope
[23:33] <ubuntu> i have not
[23:33] <cor> that's the php module
[23:33] <cor> you need that! ;o)
[23:33] <ubuntu> is it through apt-get?
[23:33] <pteague> `lsof -i` returns nothing in regards to kate...  it does show an ssh line which may be from fish...  anyway to kill/restart fish without killing kate? i don't want to have to retype what i currently have >.<
[23:34] <cor> yup, sudo aptitude install <package name>
[23:34] <cor> maybe you could copy from /proc/mem whatever it is before killing it
[23:34] <pteague> last time i looked `aptitude install php5` should have installed it unless you already have the php5 cgi or cli installed
[23:35] <cor> yeah, that may be a metapackage, good call
[23:35] <cor> should install everything, I guess
[23:35] <cor> sudo aptitude install -y php5 php5-mysql php5-gd php5-curl
[23:36] <cor> I just came across my own kubuntu setup notes!
[23:36]  * cor adds that as a handy folder view .desktop link
[23:37] <cor> oh it's all here! samba, printer, the works!
[23:38] <cor> komparator, hmm, I forgot I had that installed. handy
[23:38] <pteague> `ps aux | grep kate` turns up a line with "kate --use" & a kdeinit4 kio_file line...  tried to cat the /proc/pid#/mem & both came up as "No such process"
[23:39] <cor> I use htop for that stuff cuz I'm lazy in the shell
[23:39] <cor> F3 type
[23:39] <cor> and with 360 scrollling...
[23:40] <cor> I tried killing a child kio_file process once, with kate. the results weren't what I'd hoped for
[23:40] <pteague> yeah, i was looking at htop to see if it was eating cpu & it's not
[23:40] <cor> mind you, I did kill like 25 of them all at once
[23:41] <pteague> the 2nd pid listed in htop isn't under /proc/
[23:41] <cor> maybe that's why I use htop!
[23:42] <ubuntu> cor, done. not sure what did the job, though. i just changed localhost to 127.0.0.1
[23:42] <pteague> ah, there it is... /proc/5504/task/5525/mem gives me no such process as well... & so does /proc/5504/task/5504/mem
[23:42] <cor> though it did make me waste an entire half hour trying to locate the host "notty"
[23:43] <cor> ubuntu, you got php?
[23:43] <ubuntu> yep, now i did. thanks again, man
[23:43] <cor> sounds like you need to tweak your local interface setup, too!
[23:44] <ubuntu> that's for sure. but so far so good.
[23:44] <cor> is /etc/hosts correct?
[23:44] <cor> in other words, is there a line like..
[23:44] <cor> 127.0.0.1   localhost
[23:44] <ubuntu> just a sec
[23:45] <cor> I'd be surprised if there wasn't
[23:45] <cor> but, you know, weird sh*t happens
[23:45] <ubuntu> yep, both are in there
[23:46] <cor> hmm. I wouldn't worry too much for now. and also, use your machine's name, instead
[23:46] <cor> and of course, you can setup fake local hosts for any sites you have
[23:46] <ubuntu> your little commands work like charm, due
[23:46] <ubuntu> really?
[23:47] <cor> sure
[23:47] <ubuntu> so, you mean, machine name instead 127.0.0.1
[23:47] <cor> I generally use the proper local ip, e.g..
[23:47] <ubuntu> i see,
[23:47] <cor> 192.168.0.3 foobar.org
[23:48] <ubuntu> ubuntu is there along with local host and 127.0.0.1
[23:48] <cor> of course, now you can't access the *real* foobar.org, if such a site exists
[23:48] <ubuntu> wow
[23:48] <cor> so create nice unique names
[23:48] <pteague> could it be that fish timed out trying to get an answer from a DNS? ...  i really hate being here at the office...  the wireless is absolutely awesome >.<
[23:49] <ubuntu> and thenk
[23:49] <cor> if you have an ath.cx domain, or no-ip, you can use yourname.ath.cx and access from inside & out
[23:49] <cor> pteague, sftp is more robust
[23:49] <cor> same but better
[23:49] <cor> fish was a temporary hack created for Midnight Commander
[23:50] <cor> ubuntu, you don't need tlds, either
[23:50] <cor> 192.168.0.5    gronk
[23:50] <ubuntu> cool
[23:50] <ubuntu> fantastic
[23:50] <cor> all my machines know each other by name
[23:50] <cor> makes all sorts of things easier
[23:50] <cor> especially with nice *short* names!
[23:50] <pteague> hmm... i wonder...  brb, going to try to hibernate & restore & see if that might fix it <.<
[23:50] <ubuntu> yep
[23:51] <cor> pteague, bring the interface down (unless you are chatting through it, too!)
[23:52] <cor> ubuntu, and of course, you can change the name of your own machine from ubuntu, to something else
[23:52] <cor> though don't forget to also edit /etc/hostname
[23:52] <ubuntu> never ever ever ever!
[23:52] <cor> hehe
[23:52] <ubuntu> lol
[23:53] <cor> ubuntu, if you have a Linux gateway (like IPCop or smoothwall), you can setiup the hostnames *there* and the local machines will get them through their regular DNS calls
[23:54] <cor> saves duplicating configs if you have lots of puters
[23:54] <ubuntu> you'r taking me a bit too high, dude. :0
[23:54] <pteague> only have the 1 box at the office... yet another reason to love the office... can get so much more work done on 1 computer instead of 3-4 >.>
[23:54] <cor> you can even go one stage further and setup bind, or someother nameserver
[23:55] <cor> the secret it to only use one at a time!
[23:55] <ubuntu> so, if i throw in some websites into my www folder?
[23:55] <ubuntu> how would it work to be able to access them by names?
[23:55] <cor> sure, or better yet, create a virtual host config file and drop it into the sites-enabled folder
[23:56] <ubuntu> putting the name in etc/hosts
[23:56] <ubuntu> then?
[23:56] <cor> yup, add the name there, and then creat a corresponding virtual host
[23:56] <cor> 192.168.0.3 foobar
[23:56] <cor> and then in the conf file..
[23:57] <ubuntu> config file being a clone of apache2.conf?
[23:57] <cor> erm nah
[23:57] <cor> best to start with a fresh plain test file
[23:57] <ubuntu> k
[23:57] <cor> <Virtualhost *:80>
[23:58] <cor> ServerName foobar
[23:58] <cor> DocumentRoot /home/sites/foobar
[23:58] <cor> etc
[23:58] <cor> check the documetation for virtual hosts
[23:59] <ubuntu> yep, i was about to say the same.
[23:59] <ubuntu> it just basically to learn the apache <vertualhost> directive
[23:59] <cor> pretty much anything that can go in an apach config can go in a virtual host
[23:59] <ubuntu> thanks man
[23:59] <ubuntu> i see
[23:59] <cor> the beauty is you can run a zillion sites off the same box