[09:10] <DBO> davidbarth, what about https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jassmith/go-home-applet/atk/+merge/10741 ?
[09:13] <davidbarth> DBO: hi; just approved it too, go ahead
[09:13] <DBO> thank you
[09:13] <DBO> merged :)
[09:14] <davidbarth> DBO: thanks to you, you're doing a great job with UNR!
[09:14] <DBO> thank you, I am just trying to stay on top of everything :)
[09:14] <DBO> do you know when a good time to catch Otto is?
[09:14] <DBO> he is working on making the active window indicator a little spiffier for WPA
[09:16] <davidbarth> DBO: he should be at the office soon now; mpt may be able to tell you more precisely when he sees him
[09:16] <mpt> No sign of him yet
[09:17] <DBO> mpt, if you see him can you gently nudge him that DBO would like just 30 seconds of his time, it it is available. Maybe in a less run-on sentence format.
[09:17] <DBO> s/it it/if it/
[09:17] <mpt> ok
[09:59] <chaotic> DBO: hey
[10:04] <DBO> chaotic, sorry about the delay!
[10:04] <chaotic> DBO: no problem
[10:04] <DBO> chaotic, I just wanted to see if you have gotten any idea for me on that indicator
[10:04] <DBO> I understand its kind of a very limited problem and all...
[10:05] <chaotic> DBO: had a crash and lost those images, can you send again?
[10:05] <DBO> ya
[10:05] <chaotic> DBO: it is limited, I guess all that can be done in such a small area is tinting the unselected items back and maybe putting a highlight colour or outline on
[10:06] <DBO> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/269345/UNR-wpa-screen.png
[10:06] <DBO> chaotic, "tinting the unselected items back"?
[10:10] <chaotic> DBO: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1559554/wpa_screen.jpg
[10:11] <DBO> I love what you did with the other icons. The white background may not work since I think the UNR default theme is being changed :( I have to see whats going on there
[10:11] <DBO> but what did you do to those icons exactly???
[10:11] <DBO> just desaturated?
[10:13] <chaotic> DBO: yup - can you do that -pushes them back more
[10:13] <DBO> i sure can
[10:13] <chaotic> DBO: cool
[10:13] <DBO> making graphical effects a reality is my specialty :)
[10:16] <chaotic> DBO: I know
[10:27] <DBO> chaotic, that makes it beautiful
[10:27] <DBO> proposing the merge now :)
[10:29] <chaotic> DBO: cool man :)
[10:52] <DBO> thanks for the review MacSlow, comment taken care of.
[10:52] <MacSlow> DBO, slick
[10:53] <DBO> Im not sure the way I handle the condition is all that graceful. It paints the colored version in that case...
[10:53] <DBO> but out of memory is a bad condition for a machine to be in
[10:57] <MacSlow> but that's no excuse for not handling that case :)
[10:57] <MacSlow> DBO, you rather want someone else's code to fail in that condition and not your, right? ;)
[10:58] <DBO> im not complaining really
[10:58] <DBO> just noting that my fallback is really "hey, dont crash... do something silly, but dont crash"
[11:04] <MacSlow> DBO, well it should continue to work now and not segfault 
[11:04] <DBO> indeed
[11:04] <MacSlow> DBO, although if that condition is hit, the system will be in trouble :)
[11:04] <DBO> there is a proposed merge for desktop-switcher now too
[11:04] <DBO> if you have nothing else to do...
[11:04] <DBO> :)
[11:04] <MacSlow> DBO, I assume the allocated pixbuf is something around 64x64 pixels or so, right
[11:05] <DBO> yes
[11:05] <DBO> actually no
[11:05] <DBO> 24x24
[11:06] <DBO> really tiny
[11:06] <MacSlow> but the code has to be robust
[11:06] <DBO> im not arguing that point :P
[11:06] <MacSlow> even for a 1x1 :)
[11:07] <DBO> seriously, on your side here dude :) appreciate you catching it for me :)
[11:07] <MacSlow> I sometimes scratch my head myself doing these kinds of test, when I expect in-memory buffers to be really tiny
[11:07] <DBO> though, I did miss it... and that shouldn't have happened in the first place
[11:07] <MacSlow> back in the Amiga-days such thing could happen more easily
[11:08] <DBO> Amiga days...
[11:08] <DBO> lets see
[11:08] <MacSlow> AmigaOS, Amiga 1000/2000/4000
[11:08] <DBO> I was -2 when it came out
[11:09] <DBO> so unless I was doing to pre-birth programming :P
[11:10] <DBO> anyhow, I am going to leave you to that last merge request, you have a good long time on it, I need sleep :)
[11:34] <MacSlow> DBO, see you later
[12:21] <mac_v> MacSlow: gravity... \o/ , that means they can be placed anywhere from top or bottom?
[12:22] <MacSlow> mac_v, NorthEast or East yet
[12:22] <MacSlow> yes
[12:22] <mac_v> nice :)
[12:24] <mac_v> MacSlow: and the gconf for the color and text size , have they been implemented yet , I cant seem to find it in the gconf :?
[12:24] <MacSlow> mac_v, that'll come too... but not today
[12:25] <mac_v> ok , was just wondering ;)
[12:28]  * MacSlow -> lunch
[12:32]  * ara reboots
[12:48] <mac_v> kenvandine: i'm planning on making xchat play nice with messaging menu... any suggestions? :)
[13:11] <kenvandine> mac_v, someone has started that
[13:11] <kenvandine> mac_v, one sec
[13:12] <kenvandine> mac_v, git://github.com/smerp/xchat-gnome.git
[13:12] <kenvandine> it mostly works
[13:15] <mac_v> kenvandine: oh , nice , so someone *is* fixing it ... phew , thankx 
[13:15] <kenvandine> well... i wouldn't say that
[13:15] <mac_v> eh, ;) well atleast looking into it
[13:15] <kenvandine> smerp took a stab at it... got it working well enough for him and left it
[13:16] <kenvandine> :)
[13:16] <mac_v> i'll check it out 
[13:42] <shakaran> some channel for launchpad ppa?
[14:59] <mac_v> DanRabbit: ping , got an idea for wired panel icon ;)
[15:24] <dashua> mac_v,  Any chance you could make a new Xchat-GNOME icon for either Breathe or Humanity?
[15:24] <dashua> Just a refresh :)
[15:25] <mac_v> dashua: hehe , i was thinking the same :) , but realized that if xchat is merged into the messaging menu , there would be no need for it :(
[15:25] <dashua> Ah yeah, good point :)
[15:26] <dashua> Damn, compiz packagers update are not repainting Xchat =/
[15:26] <dashua> Those grey scale icons are SWEET.
[15:27] <dashua> You and DanRabbit keep it up.
[15:31] <DanRabbit> mac_v: I was told by David that I had to remove non-generic application icons
[15:31] <mac_v> DanRabbit: huh? i didnt understand
[15:32] <DanRabbit> In other words, the only application icons we can have in Humanity are like web-browser, terminal, text-editor
[15:32] <DanRabbit> not pidgin, midori, xchat
[15:33] <mac_v> oh , yeah... i'm not making any of those ;)
[15:33] <mac_v> DanRabbit: rough idea for the wired > http://imagebin.ca/view/8St4jY6.html
[15:34] <DanRabbit> I was saying because dashua asked about Xchat icon
[15:34] <mac_v> hehe i'm clogging up image bin today;)
[15:34] <mac_v> oh, ok
[15:34] <DanRabbit> yea that looks good
[15:34] <DanRabbit> I like your notification icons for the battery
[15:35] <DanRabbit> it fits well with Ken's current icons
[15:35] <mac_v> thanks :)
[15:36] <mac_v> DanRabbit: i'm usually bad at coming up with new concepts , but can try to fit them ;p
[15:37] <DanRabbit> haha
[15:45] <mac_v> DanRabbit: another rough idea for the wireless connection animation > http://imagebin.ca/view/d-wIhEp.html , something like a radar
[15:56] <DanRabbit> that's an interesting concept.
[19:13] <mac_v> DanRabbit: i'v done the wired connect and disconnect, let me know when you are back :)
[19:28] <Turl> hi
[19:28] <Turl> why do the notification bubbles appear on half of my screen?
[19:28] <Turl> that's really disturbing :S
[19:28] <mac_v> Turl: just update , now
[19:30] <Turl> mac_v: I have the latest version, 0.9.19-0ubuntu1 :/
[19:30] <Turl> just checked for updates
[19:31] <mac_v> Turl: latest is > "notify-osd (0.9.20-0ubuntu1) karmic
[19:32] <Turl> mac_v: it isn't, according to my repos and http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/notify-osd
[19:32] <Turl> guess it's still building then
[19:33] <mac_v> Turl: nope , i have installed the update, maybe its your local server?
[19:34] <Turl> packages.ubuntu.com is international AFAIK
[19:34] <Turl> well, anyway, good to know it's fixed :D
[19:36] <SiDi> latest is 0.9.20 but its not uploaded yet
[19:37]  * mac_v must be special then ^.^
[19:37] <Turl> mac_v: maybe you have some testing repo that canonical secretly hides (?)
[19:37] <Turl> :P
[19:39] <mac_v> Turl: i think the packages page is not update , i'v had this problem of delayed updates and change the server in software sources to main , and the updates *seem* to arrive quicker
[19:39] <mac_v> not up-to-date*
[19:39] <Turl> waiting is not too bad heh :P
[19:40] <Turl> I prefer waiting for the package to get synced to the repo, than waiting for downloads at 10Kb/s in synaptic hehe
[19:41]  * mac_v hasnt had problems of slow speed with main server ^.^
[19:42] <Turl> mac_v: you don't seem to be argentine :p
[19:56] <sintack> hello.  can pynotify or notify-send make an un-critical notif. last shorter? say 1 second?
[20:00] <sintack> or anyway less than 10 seconds?
[20:02] <sintack> i've tried "set_urgency(pynotify.URGENCY_LOW)" in pynotify as well as "notify-send -u {low|normal}" but it always stays for 10 seconds.
[20:09] <sintack> oh, i'm talking about notify-osd by the way
[20:10] <sintack> version 0.9.18-1
[20:10] <sintack> libnotify-bin 0.4.5-1
[21:45] <DanRabbit> mac_v: back