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shtylmancjwatson: how much heat have you gotten over the grub2 move?04:14
shtylmanbug report after bug report it seems :/04:14
cjwatsonway too much04:16
cjwatsonI still think it's the right decision but there is clearly lots of work to do04:16
shtylmancjwatson: I agree with you... I think standing in one place esp. with legacy stuff will just hurt the longer you put it off04:17
shtylmancjwatson: I think too many people have the wrong attitude about the grub2 move04:17
shtylmanat least that is impression I get from some of the bug reports04:18
shtylmanthey are using alpha software and seem to treat it like a finished product...04:18
cjwatsonI understand people's frustration, but the level of abuse in many cases is out of order, and I'm doing my best to disregard it04:20
shtylman:)04:20
cjwatsonthe receptiveness I've had from upstream has been amazing04:21
cjwatsonit's definitely worth being in on the ground floor sometimes04:21
shtylmanthats good04:21
cjwatsonthey're going "finally, users"04:21
shtylmanI think all will turn out just fine...the major stuff will be ironed out and then it will be better for everyone04:22
shtylmanhahaha04:22
cjwatsonwell, if you fancy helping with the ironing ... ;-)04:22
shtylmanI do fancy helping...just don't know where I would be able to help without getting in the way...unfortunately my experience in booting the system is limited...and that is an overstatement...04:23
cjwatsonit is not the easiest thing to get into04:24
shtylmanI bet04:24
cjwatsonvarious bits of installer integration still need work, such as dmraid handling04:24
cjwatsonand kirkland reported that degraded raid support has regressed04:25
shtylmanoh yea...I remember that request...04:25
cjwatsonI don't mean dmraid in ubiquity or anything04:25
cjwatsonit's a regression from grub1 handling04:25
shtylmanso does that mean grub2 can't boot dmraid currently?04:26
cjwatsonbug 42099204:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420992 in grub-installer "Cannot install grub2 on dmraid with text-mode installer" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42099204:28
shtylmanoh boy...04:29
shtylmanman...I would love to tackle that...I have a dmraid setup...but I don't even have the slightest clue of where to start...04:30
shtylmanI can at least test potential fixes...that is a start I suppose04:31
TheMusoshtylman: I hope that the dmraid box is a dual boot with Windows on the same array. :)04:31
shtylmanTheMuso: nope...I do all my windows stuff through virtual machines cause I rarely ever use it04:32
shtylmanmostly need it to compile a few apps in windows for others04:32
TheMusoshtylman: Then why are you using dmraid? Its totally inferior to Linux Software RAID.04:39
shtylmanTheMuso: how/why inferior? ... also... because it is bios supported raid basically cheap hardware raid...although still done on the cpu04:40
TheMusoshtylman: Because there is no real method to rebuild/monitor dmraid arrays from Linux for a start.04:45
shtylmandmraid does rebuild...04:46
TheMusoOnly for intel software RAID.04:46
shtylmanI see04:46
shtylmanwell...another nice thing about dmraid was that once activated...the graphical installer works with it..04:47
shtylmancause it sees it as a regular drive04:47
shtylmanand can install onto it04:47
TheMusoDmraid also acitvates degraded arrays, without even checking things. I.e it will activate an array even if there is only one drive in a RAID 1 array for example.04:47
shtylmanversus no raid in ubiquity otherwide..04:47
shtylmanI see04:47
TheMusoUbuntu/debian now has a wrapper script to attempt to take care of it, but its less than ideal.04:47
shtylmandidn't know that...cause i use raid004:47
TheMusoright, then thats not really raid. :)04:48
shtylmanwell..right... :)04:48
shtylmanbut I still gotta call it raid...04:48
shtylmanat least it still falls into that category04:48
TheMusoright04:54
* shtylman loves his raid0 setup04:54
TheMusoI hope you keep your data backed up.05:05
CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r140 usb-creator/ (7 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)07:20
CIA-33usb-creator: * Update KDE TODO07:20
CIA-33usb-creator: * Bump version in setup.py, kde_about.py, usb-creator-gtk to 0.2.407:20
CIA-33usb-creator: * General clean-up in usb-creator-kde to mirror current usb-creator-gtk07:20
CIA-33usb-creator:  - remove _fail, excepthook def's as not needed07:20
CIA-33usb-creator:  - remove trace options07:20
CIA-33usb-creator:  - remove safe command line option07:20
CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r141 usb-creator/ (TODO debian/changelog usbcreator/frontends/kde/frontend.py):08:04
CIA-33usb-creator: * General clean-up in kde/frontend.py08:04
CIA-33usb-creator:  - remove unused setup_sources_treeview and setup_targets_treeview08:04
CIA-33usb-creator:  - temporarily disable format and other buttons as they are currently broken08:04
CIA-33usb-creator: * Update TODO for some broken items to fix08:04
davmor2cjwatson: morning this is the wubi/ubiquity bug that is causing all the wubi tests to fail https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/421873.  Apparently it's a copy of another bug but I kept it separate being as it is only on the wubi install that I'm having the issues.08:44
ubottuError: This bug is private08:44
davmor2xivulon: morning dude do you have 5 minutes?09:33
xivulonyes davmor209:33
xivulonmorning09:33
xivuloncjwatson, by the way yesterday reinstalled XP inside of kvm and now grub2 works :)09:34
davmor2bug 421873 and bug 42190909:34
ubottuBug 421873 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/421873 is private09:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 421909 in wubi "Install inside windows option not visible from unr or kne" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42190909:34
xivulonI wouldn't be overly concerned about it, the previous vm has been heavily tortured09:34
davmor2xivulon: both found yesterday testing wubi09:35
xivulon421909 is probably due to the size check again, patch 144 compensates for free space but that is not enough09:38
xivulonlet me have a chat with evand, we might enable DVD's altogether and be done with it09:39
xivulon421873 I haven't reached that far yesterday, was able to boot again only this morning :)09:40
davmor2xivulon: 421909 I ran on a standard machine thinking it might be down to space but it still didn't show up09:42
xivulonThere are 2 items in the log:  umount: /host: device is busy ;  and /lib/partman/choose_partition/Finish: not found09:44
xivulondoes 421909 happen with a CD? If so can you pastebin the wubi log?09:45
davmor2xivulon: no the cds have been fine it is only on unr and kne on pendrives09:50
xivulonWhat is the size of the pendrive you are using? Should be less than max_iso_size09:53
xivulontry to edit data/isolist.ini and change max_iso_size, recompule wubi and see if it works09:53
davmor2xivulon: 4GB and an 8GB but I restrict it to iso size plus 128kb persist09:57
davmor2I'll have a look at it09:57
davmor2xivulon: I just pulled version 14809:58
davmor2bugger I don't have grub2 on my jaunty box meh10:04
xivulondavmor2: install these 2 packages:10:10
xivulonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/grub-common10:10
xivulonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/grub-pc10:10
xivulonit will work from jaunty10:10
davmor2xivulon: building10:14
davmor2xivulon: right I change the 9 at the begining to a 20 and now it is showing up again :)10:19
davmor220 is probably too big but I wanted to be on the safe side :)10:20
xivulonyes so that confirms it is a size check issue, please comment on bug report10:20
davmor2xivulon: will do :)10:29
davmor2xivulon: any chance of getting that in today as evand isn't in and it would be nice to be able to test wubi on unr and kne properly although I'll have a little play with it, with my local build and see if it dies at the same point as the others which will at least mean that all the wubi's are on an even playing field :)10:33
xivulonI can do that tonight, but it's my wedding anniversary, so low chance10:46
xivulonmost likely by tomorro night10:46
davmor2:) happy anniversary :)10:48
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cjwatsonI have no idea what's causing 421873; the log is uninformative :(11:41
davmor2cjwatson: I don't suppose it's something daft like devicekit-disks mounting all the drives it sees or something is it?11:47
cjwatsonunrelated11:48
cjwatsonexit code 127 suggests that grub-installer is falling over for lack of some tool, but there's nothing in the log to say what11:49
cjwatsonand that's just a guess ...11:49
cjwatsondavmor2: can you manage to arrange for the installer to run with the --debug option somehow?11:49
davmor2cjwatson: that's in the kernel line yes?  I'll see what I can do11:53
cjwatsonno11:54
davmor2oh11:54
cjwatsontry debug-ubiquity in the kernel line, maybe11:54
davmor2right11:55
CIA-33console-setup: cjwatson * r111 ubuntu/ (Keyboard/KeyboardNames.pl debian/changelog): releasing version 1.34ubuntu212:01
davmor2cjwatson: just dropping vista back on to install against so might take a bit12:01
davmor2cjwatson: where will the debug info be? in the standard logs or somewhere else?12:34
cjwatsonstandard12:37
cjwatsonspecifically in /var/log/installer/debug12:37
davmor2I'll post all the logs to the bug report then12:38
davmor2cjwatson: right added debug and new syslog12:45
cjwatsonI can't see how that code *ever* worked12:55
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r799 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):12:55
CIA-33grub-installer: Restrict code to generate device.map for loop installations to GRUB12:55
CIA-33grub-installer: Legacy (LP: #421873).12:55
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r800 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Fix said code to run grub chrooted into /target.12:58
cjwatsonoh, I suppose it would have worked in ubiquity12:58
davmor2cjwatson: I'm guessing that the debug log was a bit more useful then :)13:00
cjwatsonyeah13:00
cjwatsonof course it may still fail somewhere else, that just fixed the immediate problem13:01
davmor2cjwatson: cool any chance of a respin I'd like to know if it works today rather than finding out during main testing tomorrow13:02
cjwatsonwell, bear with me, I need to get some other grub-installer changes in too13:05
davmor2cjwatson: yeah np's any time today will do I'd just hate to find something else now wubi is this close to working :)13:07
cjwatsonoh, and a bunch of installer translation updates for a5, argh13:07
CIA-33cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r448 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.31ubuntu213:13
AnAntHello, can someone see this bug LP 416949 please ?13:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 416949 in console-setup "Keyboard layout toggle does not work anymore in karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41694913:17
CIA-33partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r226 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 33ubuntu213:18
cjwatsonAnAnt: queued for when I have a moment13:18
CIA-33partman-auto: cjwatson * r300 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 87ubuntu213:21
CIA-33partman-base: cjwatson * r167 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 133ubuntu213:22
AnAntcjwatson: you mean the backport for scancodes bug ?13:22
CIA-33partman-crypto: cjwatson * r688 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 37ubuntu313:23
AnAntcjwatson: or the layout toggle issue ?13:23
cjwatsonAnAnt: no, I mean I'll look at your layout toggle bug when I have a moment. I already backported the scancodes thing, which is purely cosmetic and nothing whatsoever to do with your bug13:24
AnAntcjwatson: ok13:24
AnAntthanks13:24
cjwatsonall the Debian change does is silence a warning, nothing mnore13:24
cjwatsonmore13:24
AnAntyeah13:25
CIA-33partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1229 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 66ubuntu313:25
CIA-33partman-md: cjwatson * r942 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 46ubuntu213:26
CIA-33partman-target: cjwatson * r773 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 62ubuntu213:28
CIA-33pkgsel: cjwatson * r149 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.25ubuntu213:29
CIA-33user-setup: cjwatson * r205 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.27ubuntu1013:31
mterrycjwatson, heyo.  I don't know if it's worth trying to push the plugin work in for Alpha5, but if you have extra time (har), the FFE bug for it (bug 419989) is blocked on your review.  But, I don't really think it matters if it goes in before a5.  Just giving you a heads up13:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 419989 in ubiquity "Feature Freeze exception for plugin support work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41998913:34
cjwatsondavmor2: if it's using grub2, I rather suspect that the bootdev_directory stuff won't work13:40
cjwatsondavmor2: nobody has taken the time to update that to grub2 yet13:40
davmor2cjwatson: I'm assuming it is as I couldn't build it earlier13:41
davmor2due to the lack of grub2 deps13:42
cjwatsonxivulon: should I just force wubi installations to use grub1 for now? this is surely going to take a certain amount of work13:43
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r801 ubuntu/ (10 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.4213:44
cjwatsonhmm, wubi trunk has grub2 bits in it ...13:45
cjwatsonbut only for booting the installer, if I'm reading this right?13:47
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r802 ubuntu/grub-installer: merge typo: missing fi13:51
CIA-33grub-installer: cjwatson * r803 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.42ubuntu113:53
NCommandercjwatson, do you have plans for one more d-i upload before A5 or is it all done?13:58
davmor2cjwatson: so is that a fix then, crosses fingers14:17
AnAntI'll have to go now14:27
AnAntbye14:27
cjwatsonNCommander: planning one more14:33
cjwatsondavmor2: with luck, though it'll need a ubiquity upload14:33
cjwatsonmterry: you have a review in LP now14:33
davmor2cjwatson: Cool nice one :)14:34
CIA-33debian-installer: cjwatson * r1144 ubuntu/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Move to 2.6.31-9 kernels.14:36
mterrycjwatson, cool, will respond14:36
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NCommandercjwatson, I'm hoping to have installable dove images for A5 if possible, but I need one kernel upload which may happen today (bjf is working on it, but most of the kernel team is scrambling to get to St. Lois)15:02
NCommandercjwatson, I need the partman-auto changes, and flash-kernel changes (the later which is dep-wait on the kernel) merged, I dunno if thats possible for A5 though15:02
cjwatsonbug# for those?15:04
NCommandercjwatson, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/+bug/40923815:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 409238 in ubiquity "Please add support for the Marvell dove SoC to debian-installer" [High,Confirmed]15:08
CIA-33partman-auto: cjwatson * r301 ubuntu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): merge lp:~mcasadevall/partman-auto/dove_soc15:14
cjwatsonNCommander: what does "a udev partition type" mean? is that a typo?15:14
NCommandercjwatson, I'd like to add a partman-udev similiar to partman-efi in the future, instead of simply having a separate boot15:15
cjwatsonudev?15:15
NCommanderer15:15
NCommanderuboot15:15
NCommanderwow15:15
NCommanderNot only did I typo, I managed to read the wrong thing15:15
cjwatsonthat makes more sense :)15:15
NCommander*sighs*15:15
NCommanderI've been working on this too many days without a sanity break15:15
CIA-33partman-auto: cjwatson * r302 ubuntu/debian/changelog: typos15:15
NCommandercjwatson, thanks15:21
CIA-33partman-auto: cjwatson * r303 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 87ubuntu315:27
NCommandercjwatson, \o/15:30
cjwatsonno flash-kernel patch to review?15:31
NCommandercjwatson, not yet, waiting for the next kernel upload to adjust my patch. I don't want to give you something untested15:40
NCommandercjwatson, the kernel going from uImages to zImages so my patch isn't 100% valid anymore :-)15:40
CIA-33ubiquity: mterry * r3361 plugins2/ (26 files in 6 dirs): fixups from colin's review; add a PluginUI base class, use a debug() method in it, use plugins/ instead of plugins.d/, some style cleanup16:04
AnAntcjwatson: Hello, did you have time for the console-setup bug ?16:22
CIA-33ubiquity: superm1 * r3414 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/gtk/mythbuntu_stepDrivers.ui):16:23
CIA-33ubiquity: * Mythbuntu frontend:16:23
CIA-33ubiquity:  - Fix a crash caused by two GtkCellRendererText's having the same16:23
CIA-33ubiquity:  id. A recent upload of gtk is less forgiving of this error.16:23
CIA-33ubiquity:  (LP: #422621)16:23
cjwatsonAnAnt: not yet, no16:24
AnAntok16:24
CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r144 usb-creator/ (7 files in 5 dirs):16:35
CIA-33usb-creator: * Updated TODO list and added some comments for items to fix16:35
CIA-33usb-creator: * Updated man pages16:35
CIA-33usb-creator: * Updated some licence info in kde frontend to GPLv3+16:35
rgreeningcjwatson: any idea when evand will be back?16:42
superm1cjwatson, given pitti's ack, were you thinking to merge mterry's plugins branch pre a5 or shortly thereafter?16:42
cjwatsonrgreening: tomorrow I think16:43
cjwatsonsuperm1: post, I think - it's a pretty huge branch and I'd be worried about screwing over a516:44
rgreeningok. cool. lots of stuff to fix in usb-creator :)16:44
mterrysuperm1, cjwatson: Agreed, especially since I'm making some API changes post-cjwatson-review.  Wouldn't want those last minute changes to screw something up16:44
superm1cjwatson, mterry, ok.  well, will need to do another ubiquity upload before a5 because of that above bug that crept up i just fixed. anything else others would like to get in then?16:46
cjwatsonalso need a ubiquity upload for all the d-i bits I uploaded earlier16:47
rgreeningshtylman: ubiquity under kubuntu looks sweet. just fully tested last night on my netbook16:47
cjwatsonpartman-auto 87ubuntu3 should become available for update in about an hour16:47
mterrycjwatson, speaking of, I'm looking at making the non-API-namespace change, and I think it would be far less intrusive and easier to write plugins if we namespace API members instead.  Something like 'plugin_'.  By far, most members are internal to the plugins.  Any objection?16:47
rgreeningshtylman: only things was noticeable "slowness" from timezone onward... pages seemed to take quite a while. COuld be my issue. but just wanted to let you know in case it wasn't.16:48
cjwatsonjust to clarify terminology - is 'optional_widgets', say, API or non-API?16:48
superm1cjwatson, okay i'll hold off until partman-auto clears to upload then16:48
CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r145 usb-creator/TODO: Another TODO/Fix item16:48
mterrycjwatson, it's API (anything the frontend would use)16:51
cjwatsonmterry: no objections, then; it matters more that we stick to it16:52
mterrycjwatson, agreed  :)16:53
xivuloncjwatson, yes grub2 should be ok for booting16:58
xivulonI expect that the linux side of things should be manageable16:58
xivulonI wouldn't go back to grub 116:58
xivulonI didn't do much work (on the liunux side) so far because I could not have grub2 to boot at all within vb16:59
xivulonbut now I can boot via kvm so I will try to make this thing work in the coming days17:00
cjwatsonxivulon: what takes care of telling the installed grub how to get at the /boot directory?17:01
xivuloncjawston by finding a file17:02
xivulonthere is an embedded grub.cfg inside of wubildr17:02
CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r146 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog desktop/usb-creator-kde.desktop.in): * Remove settings categories to de-clutter the KDE menu (settings doesn't make all that much sense for KDE)17:02
xivulonthat  sets the root to the partition containing /ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg17:03
xivulonI knwow, I should have used UUIDs...17:03
xivulonthe above embedded config then loads  /ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg17:04
cjwatsonok17:04
xivulondata/wubildr.cfg is the embedded config17:06
xivulonIn /ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg there is therefore no need to set the grub root device17:07
xivulonOnly the relative path17:07
xivulonSo we had something like: root=()/ubuntu/boot17:09
xivulonI haven't looked at the new update-grub, but I'd assume we should be able to put the required modifications in a dedicated grub script, possibly installed by lupin-grub or something like that17:13
xivuloncjwatson ^17:16
CIA-33ubiquity: superm1 * r3415 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/mythbuntu_install.py):17:18
CIA-33ubiquity: Reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 rather than 5.0 since 5.1 is what's17:18
CIA-33ubiquity: now in main.17:18
cjwatsonxivulon: yes, that's what I was thinking17:21
cjwatsonxivulon: or just lupin-support, I don't think it needs a new package17:21
kirklandcjwatson: arethe fsck failures on first boot after install understood?17:32
cjwatsonfirst I've heard17:40
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3416 ubiquity/ (5 files in 4 dirs):17:48
CIA-33ubiquity: Re-enable encrypted home option; apparently all the dependencies are in17:48
CIA-33ubiquity: place now.17:48
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CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r147 usb-creator/ (3 files in 3 dirs):18:19
CIA-33usb-creator: Disable persistence - it's currently broken, and if user is able to select persistence, it will18:19
CIA-33usb-creator: yield a non-functional startup disk. So, disabled until can be fixed.18:19
rgreeningcjwatson: we may want to bump a new version of usb-creator based on above commit I have made.18:21
rgreeningcurrently any attempt to use persistence causes a nonfunctional startup disk to be made (for the gtk and kde version)18:22
rgreeningcjwatson: let me bump the version strings first though...18:24
superm1why is it breaking now?18:25
CIA-33usb-creator: rgreening * r148 usb-creator/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Bump version strings for new release18:25
rgreeningsuperm1: I have no idea when it last worked.. just that it isn't...18:26
rgreeningand possibly hasn't for a while18:26
rgreeningand I've done some exptensive testing on Karmic for both frontends... all end in the same result - b0rked with persistence18:27
superm1well here's a better question then; how is it broke? what is visibly broke about it?18:28
superm1have you gotten any of this in a bug report yet?18:28
rgreeningmaybe the current kernel is at fault and unable to load the casper file18:28
rgreeningsuperm1: umm. I develop it18:28
rgreeninglol18:28
rgreeningI'm noting and fixing as I go.18:28
rgreeningunless you want to take the reins?18:28
* rgreening is feeling evil atm18:29
superm1rgreening, i know, you work on it :).  i was just wondering if there was a bunch of debug information around what was borked with persistence in the first place18:29
rgreeningnot that I know of... Never saw any reports.18:29
rgreeningI am just testing the kde version since evand swapped out the Hal backend for devicekit disks and I never had a chance to see what the changes were.18:30
rgreeningNow that I have, and I am testing, these are the things I have found and either fixed or implemented work arounds fo r18:30
rgreeningall noted in bzr, changelog and comments in the code :)18:30
rgreeningHopefully when evan gets back, I can address the outstranding issues18:31
superm1well before you go and disable persistence in the code, it would be a good idea to have a bug report to indicate how/why it's broken, so when that bug gets fixed, know to re-enable it in the code18:31
rgreeningat least we have a functional gtk/kde version with these changes (even if somewhat crippled intentionally)18:31
rgreeningtrue enuff... I'm just in triage help-me-god mode :)18:33
* rgreening launches launchpad...18:33
rgreeningsuperm1: hmm bug #276822 seems to be relevant (missed that one)18:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276822 in usb-creator "busybox with (initramfs) / boot: / kernel not found" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27682218:38
rgreeningpossibly... or at least may hint me a direction for a fix18:39
superm1lots of mixed feedback there18:40
superm1especially since people are testing all over different versions18:40
superm1and persistence didn't work in 8.04.1 and maybe 8.04.218:40
rgreeningtrue, but at this point I had no idea where to start looking for a fix... getting the casper.log for eample :)18:43
CIA-33ubiquity: superm1 * r3417 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog debian/control):18:43
CIA-33ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup18:43
CIA-33ubiquity: 1.34ubuntu2, grub-installer 1.42ubuntu1, partman-auto 87ubuntu3,18:43
CIA-33ubiquity: partman-base 133ubuntu2, partman-target 62ubuntu2, user-setup18:43
CIA-33ubiquity: 1.27ubuntu10.18:43
* rgreening grabs the file to look at18:43
* rgreening b0rked the ubs key18:46
rgreening:(18:46
CIA-33ubiquity: superm1 * r3418 ubiquity/debian/changelog: release 1.99.15 into karmic18:47
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CIA-33ubiquity: mterry * r3362 plugins/ (24 files in 4 dirs): drop get_ui(), instead use namespaced members of the UI class19:21
ogracjwatson, hmm, looking at Bug 422101 and at my own installation logs on imx51, we seem to have a logging issue19:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 422101 in initramfs-tools "initramfs-tools package seems to fail postinstall on armel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42210119:45
cjwatsonogra: logs aren't copied until the very last step. if the installer crashes, logs may be lost.22:24
cjwatsonogra: but if that's not what's happening (i.e. the syslog is useless before rebooting), then ... I think you may be in a much better position to debug this than I am22:25
JanCthis sounds like an important usability problem of the ubiquity installer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/42140722:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 421407 in ubiquity "[Jaunty and Karmic] the installer by default proposes a wrong size for the Ubuntu partition (far too small)" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:27
* cjwatson reassigns that to the proper place22:27
cjwatson10GB> absolutely not22:27
cjwatsonthat's far too big for a minimum, which is what that number is22:28
cjwatsonthe *default* is meant to be midway in between the minimum (currently 2.5GB) and whatever's available for resizing22:28
cjwatsonand there's a load of uninformed speculation in that bug, so I'll look at it some other time when I have more temper to spare22:29
cjwatsonthanks for mentioning it22:30
davmor2cjwatson: sweet answer :)22:30
cjwatsonnot really, I'm just fresh from stressful children-bedtime and so my background state is annoyed, sorry22:31
davmor2you forgot just move the chuffin' slider it's what it's there for :)22:32
cjwatsonwell, no, defaults should be reasonable22:33
JanCdavmor2: one problem is that it's not obvious that it is a slider to start with22:33
davmor2cjwatson: I'm attempting a wubi install from 2009091.1 and just noticed that the initial disk setup went to 112%22:35
davmor2JanC: It's about as obvious as it can be.  The only thing I can think of to add is a piece of text that says move the slider to adjust partition size22:36
cjwatsondavmor2: that'll have to wait for Evan to get back22:39
cjwatsonI'm so far out of date with wubi it isn't funny :(22:39
CIA-33debian-installer: cjwatson * r1145 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu5622:44
davmor2cjwatson: on slide show in ubiquity firefox page is missing an image I have reported it, it is minor but it's just incase it's brought up23:16
cjwatson-> evand :-)23:17
davmor2cjwatson: I figured it would be but I thought a heads up would be good :)23:22

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