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shakaranW:myapp: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/myapp00:00
shakaranN:00:00
shakaranN:    Each binary in /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, /sbin or /usr/games should00:00
shakaranN:    have a manual page00:00
shakaranN:00:00
shakaranN:    Note that though the man program has the capability to check for several00:00
showardamplebein: thanks, I'm rebuilding with pbuilder and i386 now - if that works should i file a "rebuild" bug?00:00
shakaranN:    program names in the NAMES section, each of these programs should have00:00
shakaranN:    its own manual page (a symbolic link to the appropriate manual page is00:00
shakaranN:    sufficient) because other manual page viewers such as xman or tkman00:00
shakaranN:    don't support this.00:00
shakaranN:00:00
shakaranN:    If the name of the man page differs from the binary by case, man may be00:00
shakaranN:    able to find it anyway; however, it is still best practice to make the00:00
shakaranN:    case of the man page match the case of the binary.00:00
joaopintoGRRRR00:00
shakaranN:00:00
shakaranN:    If the man pages are provided by another package on which this package00:00
shakaranN:    depends, lintian may not be able to determine that man pages are00:00
shakaranN:    available. In this case, after confirming that all binaries do have man00:00
shakaranN:    pages after this package and its dependencies are installed, please add00:00
shakaranN:    a lintian override.00:00
shakaranN:00:00
shakaranN:    Refer to Debian Policy Manual section 12.1 (Manual pages) for details.00:00
shakaranN:00:00
shakaranN:    Severity: normal, Certainty: possible00:00
shakaran(sorry for flood)00:00
Ampelbeinshoward: no need to, if it is successful, notify me and I'll request a giveback00:00
joaopintoshakaran, are you familiar with pastebin ?00:01
Ampelbeinshakaran: paste.ubuntu.com (in case you did not know this)00:01
shakaranok, I will check now00:01
porthoseshakaran, have you read debian policy 12.1?00:01
shakaranyeah, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html but I dont know to fix this00:02
shakaranIt says something like nroff00:02
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shakaranwell, then what I need to fix?00:06
shakaranI need to gzip the file?00:14
joaopintoshakaran, you should learn how to use linux in general, and care about development/packaging later00:14
shakaranwell, then when I release my app?00:15
joaopintonot understanding how file permissions work is a serious risk for packaging00:15
shakaranThe problem is that I dont know every word in english, and all the documentation is in ENGLISH00:16
joaopintoshakaran, when you are ready to do it, or by filling a needs packaging request and wait for someone to package it00:16
shakaranthe lintian message dont suggest anything for me over change the permission of file00:16
shakaranonly "read the manual"...and "read again"...that dont help anything00:17
joaopintoshakaran,  I was refering to your previous question, about the image file permissions00:17
shakaranyeah, but your answer offend me00:18
joaopintoshakaran, you need to understand how to generate a manpage and how to install it as part of the packaging process00:18
joaopintoshakaran, I had no intention to offend you, is just that you should get basic linux skills before packaging, understandinf file permissions is fundamental00:19
directhexmanpage generation isn't actually a common skill amongst ubuntu packagers, but it's mandatory for debian's NM process00:19
shakaranyeah, I read a lot of stuff, but it is only for C, myapp is write in python and many things changes (maybe dont with manpage)00:19
shakaranI use ubuntu since 5.04...believe I know how to change the file permissions, but I dont understand what says me the message00:19
joaopintoshakaran, ok please apologize I didn't understood it was an english interpretation problem :(00:20
shakaranyeah, my real problem is write/speak in english (I have a basic level)00:21
shakaranjoaopinto: apology accepted00:22
shakaranwell, then I have the XML file on /debian (I really want learn to package by myself). Then I change the manpage.xml.ex to myapp.xml00:23
shakaranAnd then I don gzip -9 myapp.xml?00:23
shakaranI need change the debian/rules file to copy to /usr/share/man/?00:24
shakaranor something more for remove the lintian warning?00:24
joaopintoshakaran, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/SupplementaryFiles#Man%20Pages00:26
shakaranthanks, I go to read it (Im back if I have problems)00:27
showardampelbein: octave3.0 builds now, I think the bug you linked fixed it. Could you do a "give-back?" (is a give-back just a request to the build server to rebuild?)00:38
Ampelbeinshoward: yes. will do.00:39
jtimbermanyeehaw. 'jaunty' packages built for all the dependencies for chef that weren't backported yet. yay sbuild.00:41
jtimbermanman pages, fwiw, are much easier to digest when you have help2man (and a program properly outputs --help and --version).00:43
shakaranjoaopinto: I read the manual. It says about use pod2man and include perl as dependency, but it only neccesary for build from .pod file to manpage. I use a .xml file for that, how to convert from .xml?00:45
Zhenechp3rror, ping00:54
shakaranplease, I need some help00:54
porthoseshakaran, not sure this will help http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xmlto01:05
shakaranI see xsltproc, but it doesn't working01:06
shakaranI see something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/262809/01:08
sluimersHow do I add a repository to pbuilder so that it CAN find my build dependencies?06:05
Hobbseethe OTHERMIRROR= in the config file06:06
jmarsdensluimers: See http://wiki.debian.org/PbuilderTricks06:13
sluimersjmarsden, thanks!06:13
jmarsdenNo problem.06:14
dholbachgood morning06:43
iulianMorning dholbach!06:45
dholbachhola iulian06:45
highvoltagegooood morning07:03
highvoltage(and happy spring if you're in the bottom half of the world)07:04
lifelesshighvoltage: top half, I swear it is.07:04
lifelesssee, the centre of gravity of humans is in the northen hemisphere... so it has to have rolled to the bottom :)07:04
* jmarsden thinks... some people and their upside-down maps :)07:05
highvoltagelifeless: heh, sounds logical!07:05
jmarsdenhttp://flourish.org/upsidedownmap/07:06
highvoltagethat just looks weird07:07
highvoltage(but cool)07:09
gaspa'morning!!08:31
dholbachgaspa:08:45
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dholbach:-)08:45
gaspaLOL08:45
gaspawow, thank you, really!08:46
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dholbach:-)08:47
qiyongwe still use initrd?08:53
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dstansbyPlease could someone with the relevant privelages mark https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/417337 as invalid?11:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 417337 in grub "Grub freezes on MacBook 5,2" [Undecided,New]11:03
dstansbySorry, please could that be won't fix11:04
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dundeeHi, I have a problem with building python package with CDBS (might be cdbs bug) https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/81583 Any sugestions how to solve it?11:45
andvdundee, it's not a cdbs bug11:49
andvdundee, your python-dev dep is listed as python-dev >= 2.511:49
andvdundee, in karmic we have python-dev 2.611:49
andvdundee, Get:10 http://ftpmaster.internal jaunty/main python2.6 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 [2454kB]11:50
andvGet:11 http://ftpmaster.internal jaunty/main python 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 [141kB]11:50
andvthat's it ;)11:50
andvdundee, and anyway julian gave you the answer already11:51
dundeethanks, will try11:53
andvnp11:54
c_kornandv: hello13:12
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c_kornis it just me or is the gnome-panel currently always reloading in karmic ?14:16
c_kornhm, this question better goes to #ubuntu+q14:16
c_korn#ubuntu+114:16
Hobbseec_korn:14:17
Hobbseec_korn: it shouldn't be.  i don't notice it doing so here14:17
c_kornin #ubuntu+1 nemo has the same problem14:18
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bddebianHeya gang14:41
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flohackHi! How can I specify that a certain file is a configuration file when using a .install file to copy files from the source into the binary package?16:09
flohackI'm using debhelper16:10
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flohackWhere can I find docs on the various .XXX files? I know about .install .links, are there more?16:22
christoph_debian.docs .dirs16:28
christoph_debian.link(s?)16:28
christoph_debian.symbols16:29
jmarsdenflohack: Read all the dh_* man pages if you need to know all of them.16:29
flohackjmarsden: ahh...I see, those beginning with dh_install are the right ones, thanks!16:30
jmarsdenNo problem.  man 7 debhelper has a list of the dh_ commands, if you need that.16:30
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a1g_i have a question about snort package for jaunty17:38
a1g_when will it get updated?17:38
a1g_seeing as snort 2.7.0 is vulnerable17:38
a1g_kinda hard to believe since its a security package17:39
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jdstranda1g_: snort is a universe package and is community supported. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam#Introduction17:43
a1g_ok, thx17:48
a1g_will snort2.8.4.1 from karmic work on jaunty?17:49
jdongah, the joys of compiling on battery :)18:11
Gnome64^^18:11
jdongit feels great to be back though :) how's everyone been this summer?18:13
dutchieis there any chance at all that http://revu.ubuntuwire.net/p/suvat will make it into karmic?18:26
c_korneh, can someone confirm that my math is not that bad ? :)18:34
c_kornhttp://pastebin.com/d38b5910c18:34
RainCT_c_korn: 42 is bigger than 5...18:34
c_kornRainCT_: ah, this way the versions are compared. thanks18:36
dutchieW: suvat source: timewarp-standards-version (2009-08-07 < 2009-08-16)18:55
dutchiewhat does that mean?18:55
RainCT_dutchie: that the standards-version you set was released at a date later than the date in the top entry of your debian/changelog18:56
dutchiethe top entry of debian/changelog is today18:57
dutchieoops, no it's not18:57
sbeattieAny chance I could get an upload for the merge request in bug 420931?19:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420931 in zsync "zsync crashes with SIGSEGV when updating dvds" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42093119:11
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czambranI found a bug that I believe I can fix. You can see the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mime-support/+bug/41244420:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 412444 in mime-support "typo in /etc/mime.types for epsi files" [Undecided,New]20:52
czambranthis seems like something that should be reported upstream20:53
czambranhow do I go about doing that?20:53
czambranor should I just fix it on Ubuntu?20:53
zookoWhat is the "upstream" for mime-support -- is it Debian?21:01
czambranI believe so21:02
czambranthe LP page for that package doesn't say21:02
czambranhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mime-support21:02
zookoczambran: are you sure Debian has the same bug?21:13
czambranyes, they do21:17
czambranI downloaded the source package from this url21:17
czambranhttp://packages.debian.org/lenny/mime-support21:17
zookoczambran: thanks.21:18
zookoAlso Brian Warner confirmed on his Debian sid box.21:18
czambranwhere did you see that?21:18
czambranI am very new at this21:18
zookoI asked him over on #tahoe.21:18
warnerhere21:19
warnerI'll paste the line..21:19
Nafaiwarner!21:19
warnertravis? whoa!21:19
warnerlong time, man21:19
zookoSo you should use launchpad and add to that ticket: "Also affects distribution" -> Debian21:19
Nafaino kidding :)21:19
zookoHey, shouldn't that be "effects" not "affects"?21:19
zookoHowdy Nafai.21:19
zookoI followed your medical crisis on twitter.21:20
zookoStrange how we live in science fiction.21:20
czambranthat is pretty handy. It said "Debian doesn't use Launchpad as its bug tracker. Without a bug URL to watch, the Debian status will not update automatically"21:20
czambranand I clicked on the 'Add anyway' button21:20
warner% grep espi /etc/mime.types21:21
warnerapplication/postscript                          ps ai eps espi epsf eps2 eps321:21
zookoAh, so I guess now you need to open a debian bug report.  :-)21:21
Nafaizooko: Thanks.  It's much less of a crisis now that I'm stable after the transplant. :)21:21
zookoI'm glad you are okay.21:22
czambranzooko, should I do it manually or install the program reportbug which they suggest I use?21:22
warnerczambran: if you've got a sid box, you should use reportbug.. it will include details like what version you've got installed21:24
warnerI haven't tried to install/run reportbug on an unbuntu box21:24
czambranI could always run another virtual machine. I will do that then21:25
zookowarner: :-(  reportbug was utterly and horribly broken on Ubuntu from before the first release of Ubuntu until they finally after many years did something21:25
zooko...21:25
czambranI learned how to submit patches for simple bugs. Should I submit one on the LP ticket?21:25
warnerczambran: it'll basically write the email for you and then hand it to you to add details and send it21:25
zookoOh, I see.21:26
zookohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reportbug/+bug/12341421:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 123414 in reportbug "reportbug shouldn't unconditionally attempt to relay via fiordland" [Medium,Fix released]21:26
zookoreportbug reports bugs to *debian* when you run it on Ubuntu, provided you've configured it right.21:26
zookotrip down memory lane: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reportbug/+bug/228183/comments/1221:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228183 in reportbug "Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu" [Medium,Fix released]21:28
dundeeHi, python package is installed into /usr/share/pyshared using cdbs by default, but this path is not in python-path. How to automaticaly create neccessary symlinks?21:29
czambranreportbug worked fine on Ubuntu Karmic21:38
zookoczambran: it opened a bug report in Debian?  Sweet.21:39
czambranI think so21:39
czambranit didn't give any errors21:39
czambranI am waiting for the confirmation e-mail21:39
czambranzooko, should I post a patch on LP or just wait for warner to fix it upstream and then for Ubuntu to sync?21:41
zookoI don't think you should wait for warner to fix it.21:42
zookoSince he isn't the maintainer of it.21:42
zookoIt doesn't hurt to post your patch on LP.21:42
czambrangreat21:43
czambranthanks a lot zooko21:43
dundeeNothing about this in python packaging guide...21:45
zookoMaybe after you get the DEbian bug report number you could add an "also effects distribution" tag on the LP ticket.21:45
zookodundee: sorry, I don't know about that.21:45
dundeezooko: ok, thanks anyway21:47
geserdundee: python-{support,central} create the necessary symlinks (depending on which the package use)21:48
czambranzooko, I will do that. I also subscribed ubuntu-main-sponsors to the ticket21:51
dundeegeser: ah, thanks :)21:57
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c_kornandv: ping22:31
andvc_korn, hi22:32
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c_kornhi andv22:35
c_kornscilab now builds in karmic22:35
andvoh great22:35
c_kornthere is a new version in debian, too22:36
c_kornwhich can be synced22:36
andvis it a new upstream release?22:36
c_korndo I need a FFe now ?22:36
andvor just a new revision22:36
c_kornjust new revision22:36
andvif it's a new revision (no new upstream release) it's ok22:36
andvto sync it22:36
c_kornfine (it is bug 414410 btw)22:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 414410 in scilab "scilab 5.1.1-7 seems to FTBFS (sync request invalid for now)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41441022:36
c_kornit is scilab 5.1.1-8 now22:37
andvc_korn, added on TODOs22:37
andvc_korn, will be done later or tomorrow morning22:37
c_kornthanks. do I need to do something with the bug ?22:38
c_kornupdate title or description ?22:38
andvc_korn, yes, please move it to a proper sync request explaining the FTBFS has been fixed22:38
andvc_korn, adding the -8 changelog revision would be nice as well22:38
c_kornshould I open a new bug or just change anything there ?22:39
andvno need to open a new bug22:39
andvchange everything needed there22:40
andvchange bug title, plus update description with latest entry and informations about the fixed ftbfs22:40
andvand then I gonna take care of it22:42
c_korndone22:45
andvc_korn, perfect22:46
c_kornthanks :)22:47
andv:)22:48
andvthanks for fixing it22:48
c_kornnp22:52
Laneyurgh23:32
Laneythe package I want to use for my session doesn't respect DESTDIR23:32
Laneyor whatever qmake does23:32
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czambranwhat should I do to a bug report for something that seems to have been fixed in Karmic?23:36
Ampelbeinczambran: there is stock reply for that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed%20in%20Development%20release%20while%20still%20existing%20in%20a%20previous%20release23:39
czambranthanks Ampelbein23:40
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Adri2000hmm, u-d-t broken23:55

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