[00:00] <joker_> un|matrix: I'd say you can find that easy shot googling.
[00:00] <Gouda> Setting up your own webserver requires knowledge of setting up apache, intermediate networking skills and a drive to do lots of reading
[00:00] <Gouda> I don't think you are there yet bro
[00:00] <Guest522> but, if i paid somebody, they cant do it over the internet
[00:00] <arand> FlugHaffen: if that gives anything do root (hd#,#) where #,# is specified depending on what the find command gave.
[00:00] <un|matrix> joker_: wish i could use Adobe Audition... you don't need to do pointless stuff like that with it
[00:00] <ozone89> bye
[00:00] <Guest522> they would need to be here in person
[00:00] <bucky> Guest522 this isn't a ubuntu problem... it's a dsl modem/router problem
[00:00] <joker_> un|matrix: chatting is a good way of finding ideas to solve your problem but it most of the time wont fix it "out of the box" :)
[00:00] <arand> FlugHaffen: and then just the command: boot
[00:00] <Guest522> so nobody is going to help me
[00:00] <joker_> un|matrix: I dont see why you can't use adobe whatever?
[00:01] <Gouda> Guest522. When I setup a webserver....it took me days of trial and error and lots of reading and googling
[00:01] <dErFz> how do i make 'xset m 0 0' startup everytime?
[00:01] <un|matrix> joker_: i'm not going to buy windows
[00:01] <joker_> un|matrix: wine
[00:01] <mechdave> Guest522, It sounds like you need to do some reading at http://httpd.apache.org and get to know how the web server works before you even try to set it up. You are just asking for trouble if you make it internet facing without some prior knowledge of how apache works :)
[00:01] <Gouda> Guest522 you need to be willing to help yourself first
[00:01] <un|matrix> joker_: tried it, doesn't work
[00:01] <FlugHaffen> arand, ok ill try that now, thanks
[00:01] <FlashGordon2000> o
[00:01] <joker_> un|matrix: oh, for real? It crash or what?
[00:01] <h2g2bob> Guest522: i missed your question - is it "how do i set up a website" or something more subtle?
[00:01] <Gouda> You can't expect to come in here and everyone jump at your feet and hand you all the answers. You gotta do alot of the stuff on your own. That's just the way it is
[00:02] <Gouda> h2g2bob: he's trying to setup a webserver...and has no knowledge of apache
[00:02] <Guest522> ive ran loads of servers from datacenters, i just wanted to run it from home, the only thing thing thats making me confussed is the whole port forwarding
[00:02] <bucky> Guest522 this is a networking problem.. learn how to port forward and open up your router for cross port traffic on the wireless
[00:02] <Gouda> Well scuzni gave you a link to go read up on port forwarding and I don't believe you read it
[00:02] <Guest522> this is what i dony no
[00:02] <un|matrix> joker_: the installation freezes and won't continue, and when i try to run the pre-installed version (which my friend sent me), it says it's not installed
[00:02] <mechdave> I started out with RedHat 5.2, a book on UNIX commands and no internet. That was a learning curve I must say :)
[00:02] <Guest522> dont no*
[00:03] <Gouda> You need to read that site he gave you and google and find the docs for your router
[00:03] <bucky> Guest522, get one of your data center fellow employees to give you a hint
[00:03] <joker_> un|matrix: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3665
[00:03] <Guest522> there not going to help me, because they would lose money
[00:03] <joker_> un|matrix: according to that, you should be able to do what you want
[00:03] <h2g2bob> Guest522: look on the bottom of your router / cable modem and type the web address there into your web browser to configure your router for port forwarding
[00:04] <bucky> Guest522, they hired you didn't they?
[00:04] <un|matrix> joker_: i already read the whole page, but it doesn't work here
[00:04] <Gouda> ROFL @ bucky
[00:04] <FlugHaffen> arand, i got the same error as always.  Error 8: kernel must be loaded before booting
[00:04] <Guest522> ive done that, and im into my router, im just unsure about the port forwarding
[00:04] <h2g2bob> Guest522: all routers are a bit different, so it's hard to give specific info. Another problem you might run into is your ISP may only give you a dynamic ip address
[00:04] <un|matrix> joker_: the installation stops before showing the EULA with MSIEXEC.EXE using all of the CPU... left it run for 30 minutes and it didn't move
[00:05] <Guest522> my ip adress has always been the same, everytime i reset it, ive never had a new ip adress
[00:05] <joker_> un|matrix: got that a few times with steam aswell...
[00:05] <Gouda> Yeah they call that a static ip address.
[00:05] <joker_> un|matrix: don'T remember what I did exactly but I think it somewhere needed to be restarted several times...
[00:05] <carbon14c> test
[00:05] <kjon>  Hello. I'm experiencing serious soft lockups of my machine when copying large files. Is there any fix for this issue?
[00:05] <joker_> un|matrix: lets see how to do what you want with linux based apps
[00:05] <_20eric06_> Can anyone help me removing lilo?
[00:06] <carbon14c> no
[00:06] <_20eric06_> Anyone?
[00:06] <mechdave> Guest522, All you do to port forward is forward port 80 to the ip address of your server. If you do that the internet will only be able to access port 80 on your machine. BUT Please read about the security issues and how to set up and deploy a chroot jail for apache first
[00:06] <bkevan> _20eric06_ Just ask
[00:06] <_20eric06_> bkevan, I did...
[00:06] <bucky> Guest522, go to http://192.168.254.254 and enter your passwd.. point and click
[00:07] <_20eric06_> [20:05] <_20eric06_> Can anyone help me removing lilo?
[00:07] <Gouda> google "remove lilo" i just found lots of sites that show you how to do it
[00:07] <bkevan> _20eric06_ You asked if someone could help you.. :P
[00:07] <joker_> un|matrix: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/onlinehelp-1.2/reference.html
[00:07] <_20eric06_> I'm mouse-less right now
[00:07] <_20eric06_> can't open firefox
[00:07] <joker_> un|matrix: it says on that page that tracks can have diffrent sample rates
[00:07] <Guest522> bucky: i tryed that link, it doesnt load
[00:07] <joker_> un|matrix: that the rates will be ajusted to the project's rate
[00:07] <_20eric06_> Yep, just as helpful as ##linux
[00:07] <_20eric06_> God damn.
[00:07] <un|matrix> joker_: one moment
[00:07] <arand> FlugHaffen: Can you boot up with a livecd?
[00:07] <joker_> un|matrix: you have to "set rate" somewhere
[00:08] <FlugHaffen> arand, yes
[00:08] <mechdave> _20eric06_, What OS are you running?
[00:08] <bucky> Guest522, try it from something other than your laptop
[00:08] <FlugHaffen> arand, im in livecd right now
[00:08] <un|matrix> joker_: yeah, it doesn't happen... i've set it to 22050 and imported a 44100 file, and it didn't convert it
[00:09] <Guest522> i have a friend that is trying to connect aswell for me
[00:09] <Guest522> from his hom pc
[00:10] <Guest522> ok guys well thanx for the help
[00:10] <Guest522> ive guessed no1 is going to help me
[00:10] <Guest522> so cheerz
[00:10] <arand> FlugHaffen: ok, are you able to browse the partition where ubuntu is installed?
[00:10] <bkevan> Gues522: You're not asking the right questions
[00:10] <joker_> un|matrix: I'm kinda skeptical but I dont have any files at any other rate than 44khz from what I know of...
[00:10] <FlugHaffen> arand, yes
[00:10] <joker_> un|matrix: So I can't test it... Altho I could mix to takes of microphone...
[00:10] <un|matrix> joker_: any youtube video will include 22kHz audio
[00:10] <bkevan> Guest522: And when people are trying to help.. you tell them no "your ip has always been the same" .. DHCP expires.. unless you're granted that IP via the MAC.. then you're never guarnteed that IP.. even if you have always gotten it
[00:11] <Guest522> ok,
[00:11] <Guest522> so what kind of questions shuld i be asking
[00:11] <Guest522> ?
[00:11] <bkevan> _20eric06_: you didn't give enough information.. like what OS you're running, what version of LILO.. and if you have GRUB loaded.. and if you want to use GRUB instead..
[00:11] <joker_> un|matrix: aight, I'mma try that and you find a solution to synchronise my icecast clients. ;)
[00:11] <joker_> un|matrix: Deal?
[00:11] <arand> FlugHaffen: do you see a /boot/grub folder, and does it contain files like stage1 menu.lst etc.?
[00:11] <scunizi> bkevan: you need to supply a reference dictionary.  ISP, DHCP, MAC, and maybe "expires"
[00:11] <bkevan> _20eric06_ you also don't give info on what the current issue is.. and why you want to get rid of it
[00:11] <Chaz> how do I copy contents of of a CD and preserve their permissions?
[00:12] <xxtreme> Guest522: ask again
[00:12] <FlugHaffen> arand, yea
[00:12] <ultraputz> chaz - make an image
[00:12] <bkevan> Guest522: First off. what's your problem.. What are you trying to accomplish.. what problems are you having, and what is the expected outcome
[00:12] <un|matrix> joker_: i'll look into it
[00:12] <ultraputz> chaz - man dd
[00:12] <ultraputz> or use brasero
[00:12] <Guest522> ok
[00:12] <sugarmagnolia> hmm... weird thing - ubuntu 8.04 on a Lenovo 3000 N200.  I just installed the latest set of updates a few days ago and since then, whenever the screen saver kicks in, the screen brightness dims the screen to about 40% brightness.  I have to manually adjust the brightness when the screensaver kicks off
[00:12] <bkevan> scunizi: ICUP is the most imporatnt..
[00:12] <joker_> un|matrix: ok, going to my desktop. brb
[00:12] <bkevan> scunizi: Because if ICUP then we have problems..
[00:12] <mechdave> Guest522, Not that we aren't going to help you, just that we believe you need to do some more research into the subject. I have pointed you to apache.org and now it is up to you to do some reading and then come back with some questions we can actually answer. There is a lot in setting up a server and the subject needs to be broken down to smaller subject areas for us to be able to help more. Do this by reading about apach
[00:12] <mechdave> e and the server first.
[00:12] <mrwes> brasero --- pffffffft
[00:13] <ultraputz> mrwes - it makes images, and comes with ubuntu.
[00:13] <mrwes> so does mkisofs :)
[00:13] <mrwes> heh
[00:14] <h2g2bob> mrwes: so does dd ... sort of :) it's just easier to use the graphical ones
[00:14] <Guest522> im trying to setup a home webserver to run some websites from, ive installed ubuntu onto the machine , and ive installed cpanel onto the machine with ubunut, and now i need to give it access so that people can view my websites, ive been told its something to do with portforwarind but im unsure what , please could somebody help me so other people can access my machine? and be able to view my websites?
[00:14] <FlugHaffen> arand, what should i do from here?
[00:14] <incluye> Jesus, this channel is enormous.
[00:15] <detrix> hello folks.  I have an ATI all-in-wonder.  I am trying to get dual head capabilities with the TV out.  How do I set up xorg.conf
[00:15] <joker_> un|matrix: looks like it works out of the box here
[00:15] <mrwes> Guest522, forward port 80 from your router to the server, that is, if your ISP allows it
[00:15] <helpee> !tvout | detrix
[00:15] <nation> hey everyone whats
[00:15] <nation> going on there
[00:15] <un|matrix> joker_: you can't sync icecast listeners, if i were u i'd stream audio to them via pulseaudio
[00:15] <joker_> un|matrix: ho, yeah the song is quite slower lol
[00:15] <mrwes> ultraputz, I've always been a big fan of K3b -- I don't mind carrying the extra KDE libs
[00:15] <un|matrix> joker_: exactly
[00:15] <helpee> detrix: note those links are really old.  Try checking the help.ubuntu.com/community entry for ati as well
[00:15] <nation> love this distro :P
[00:15] <mechdave> Guest522, Get the make and model of your router and google it. Get the user manual and follow instructions in that to enable port forwarding
[00:16] <Guest522> ok, but how do i find out my router ip, im guessing is 192.168.1.1
[00:16] <ultraputz> mrwes - kde make me feel queasy, and i tend to use dd for most everything :-)
[00:16] <joker_> un|matrix: ok, thx for the search ;) Imma check out your thing now and try to surpass you with a working solution rather than telling you it doesnt work :P
[00:16] <helpee> Guest522: read the documentation for your router.  This isn't related to ubuntu.
[00:16] <mrwes> ultraputz, can't argue with dd
[00:16] <Guest522> so it didnt let me add http://192.168.1.1, but another i found on my machine is 192.168.1.2
[00:16] <bribroder> hey guys
[00:16] <arand> FlugHaffen: ok, let's try to reinstall grub to the mbr then (which loads the grub files here), run "sudo grub" "find /boot/stage1" "root (hd#,#)" (just like before) and then finally "setup hd0" (or hd# where # is the device you are booting from, it's normally hd0 but could be different if you have several harddisks or raid setups...)
[00:16] <iuso> flower: it's advancing at a very slow pace. if you mean 0.5.4, it's already gone through much rework since then
[00:16] <Guest522> so ive added this with port 80
[00:16] <ultraputz> no sir
[00:16] <detrix> helpee: thats kinda why I am here.  I could not find much on ati tv out
[00:16] <Guest522> and now it will work yes?
[00:16] <mechdave> Guest522, And you are a server admin? See previous post of mine
[00:16] <ultraputz> you know anything about lvm / dmcrypt ?
[00:16] <FlugHaffen> arand, i have 3 hd's
[00:16] <helpee> Guest522: you need to forward port 80 ON YOUR ROUTER to your ubuntu machine
[00:17] <ultraputz> er, anyone, mrwes?
[00:17] <Guest522> ok
[00:17] <arand> FlugHaffen: ok, hang on then.
[00:17] <Guest522> but people need to be able to access the machine with the ip
[00:17] <mrwes> ultraputz, genisoimage -r -J -o cd_image.iso $1 :)
[00:17] <Guest522> for example my laptop ip show up on the internet as 82.32.200.81, what does this have to do with it?
[00:17] <ultraputz> Guest522 -- do consider that your ISP may block port 80
[00:17] <joker_> un|matrix: theres a "change speed" function but I don't think that,d be quite "intuitive" :)
[00:17] <scunizi> helpee: he may not have apache installed ... only cpanel
[00:17] <helpee> Guest522: yeah, they'll enter your router's ip and your router will forward their request to your server on your network...
[00:17] <Guest522> im not sure if they do or not
[00:18] <Guest522> how would i find out?
[00:18] <arand> FlugHaffen: do you know which one you are normally booting from?
[00:18] <jrivera> hello everyone!
[00:18] <mrwes> Guest522, forward port 80 from your router to the server, that is, if your ISP allows it <---- ultraputz
[00:18] <ultraputz> Guest -- set it up correctly and still not have it work : -)
[00:18] <mrwes> heh
[00:18] <fruers> How do I get ubuntu to drop to a tty and display the fault when the kernel panics?
[00:18] <FlugHaffen> arand, no not really
[00:18] <nation> i like the hardware support now arvailable i have tried to get into linux distros many times but all started to sound like mac only liking certain hardware
[00:18] <jrivera> question: how do i change a login name with root access from say foo to myfoo
[00:18] <un|matrix> joker_: i've tried that, and it doesn't work either... a 22kHz that should be 44kHz gets sped up 50%... but if you slow it down 50% it's not the same at all
[00:18] <FlugHaffen> arand, i have windows on one and until today had fedora on another
[00:18] <mechdave> Guest522, if you have a dynamic IP address you need to use a company like DynDNS to give you a domain name
[00:19] <ultraputz> jrivera, you don't. you create a new userid.
[00:19] <un|matrix> joker_: actually, make that 100%
[00:19] <mrwes> Guest522, might need to run your web server on 8080 or something like that and forward that port
[00:19] <joker_> un|matrix: I just did it. Sucessfully resampled to 22khz without speed lost
[00:19] <fruers> My laptop keeps crashing, basically it just resets with no error message
[00:19] <mechdave> Guest522, http://dyndns.com
[00:19] <un|matrix> joker_: with 'change speed'?
[00:19] <mrwes> +1 for dyndns -- been using it for about a year without issues and free too :)
[00:19] <fruers> Does ubuntu drop to a tty with error message when the kernel panics or does it just reset?
[00:19] <jrivera> ultraputz: will i use adduser or useradd command? i am on command line only
[00:19] <joker_> un|matrix: Menu -> Tracks -> Resample
[00:19] <nation> my laptop loves it only crashed due to heat when converting 60 gb of video files lol
[00:20] <ultraputz> sudo adduser
[00:20] <arand> FlugHaffen: hmm, "sudo fdisk -l" might give you a hint (at least one of the partitions should have a boot flag)?
[00:20] <ultraputz> btw .. it shells to vi by default
[00:20] <un|matrix> joker_: dammit i've been searching for this for hours
[00:20] <Guest522> ok thanx
[00:20] <ultraputz> so either know vi, or export EDITOR="<yourfavorite>"
[00:20] <joker_> un|matrix: you owe me bro :P
[00:20] <jrivera> then i can delete the old login username?
[00:20] <un|matrix> joker_: i guess i do
[00:20] <joker_> un|matrix: sup with my synchronisation? :)
[00:20] <FlugHaffen> arand, that'd be my windows install.
[00:21] <ultraputz> jrivera, you can disable the account
[00:21] <un|matrix> joker_: solve it with pulseaudio
[00:21] <un|matrix> joker_: it should be synced
[00:21] <mrwes> or sudo update-alternatives --config editor and choose option 3 for nano
[00:21] <ultraputz> jrivera, and if you like, you could pull its home directory.
[00:21] <arand> ok, and what disk is that (sda sdb sdc ?)
[00:21] <ultraputz> mrwes, better call.
[00:21] <joker_> un|matrix: yeah I'llr ead on that... just pisses me off I made all these network settings for nothing...
[00:21] <jrivera> ok i think that's better
[00:21] <FlugHaffen> arand sdc1
[00:21] <zefyx> okay, you guys
[00:21] <zefyx> i need your lovin
[00:21] <mrwes> ultraputz, I'm on a roll
[00:21] <jrivera> thanks ultraputz
[00:21] <zefyx> i had two drive's drop from an array
[00:21] <arand> FlugHaffen: you have been using grub to boot windows as well?
[00:21] <mechdave> Guest522, Don't keep anything personal on your server... I have had break in attempts by the Russians and the Chinese in the past
[00:21] <zefyx> neither were accessed/formatted. both are uninitalized right now
[00:21] <ultraputz> zefyx - try duct tape.
[00:21] <joker_> un|matrix: I've put a mpd server, icecast, clients, made shell scripts to wrap that (ease of use for the girlfriend)...
[00:22] <zefyx> what do i need to do to force them back into my raid 5?
[00:22] <FlugHaffen> arand, that was my original plan but i havent been able to use it to boot anything
[00:22] <un|matrix> joker_: i know... i've been through it
[00:22] <joker_> un|matrix: on all the computers here... So you can control any mpd server from any computer, and listen to any of them
[00:22] <mrwes> Guest522, better think about running DenyHosts and some iptable rules for brute force attacks :))
[00:22] <Guest522> ok
[00:22] <arand> FlugHaffen: Ok, hopefully this should work: first run "sudo grub" in a terminal
[00:22] <h2g2bob> does anyone know anything about gnome's drag-and-drop - have any debugging hints, etc?
[00:22] <joker_> un|matrix: I wanted a "Hey listen to that!", networked.
[00:23] <h2g2bob> I've got a sample program with a drag destination for text/uri-list data types. If I drag folder locations from the location bar in nautilus, it gives multiple "drag-data-received signals" for a single "drag-drop". This confuses and angers me.
[00:23] <Guest522> all i want to do is get the server live to public
[00:23] <un|matrix> joker_: well the mpd server is icecast independant isnt it?
[00:23] <Guest522> i can worrie about the rest onces ive done this
[00:23] <bribroder> quick Q for y'all regarding wireless config: what kind of packet loss do i need to see before I should turn on CTS Protection Mode?
[00:23] <joker_> un|matrix: but it's out of sync and it sucks :(
[00:23] <joker_> un|matrix: yeah, it is. Good point
[00:23] <un|matrix> joker_: you can still use pulseaudio with it
[00:23] <arand> FlugHaffen: at the grub prompt do "find /boot/grub/stage1" what does that give?
[00:23] <mrwes> Guest522, your ISP may block port 80 -- we told you several times brutha!
[00:23] <FlugHaffen> arand (hd1,0)
[00:23] <joker_> un|matrix:  Yup, good idea but I dont know much bout pulse audio... imma have to read bout that.
[00:23] <Guest522> yes i no
[00:24] <arand> FlugHaffen: then do "root (hd1,0)"
[00:24] <joker_> un|matrix: any, thx for the hints and have fun with audacious
[00:24] <Guest522> but, i need to try and get this setup so i can find out brutha!
[00:24] <mrwes> heh
[00:24] <un|matrix> joker_: it's not too complicated, just put pulseaudio on all clients and forward the audio from the server to them
[00:24] <mrwes> don't bite the hand that is helping
[00:24] <Guest522> its really stressing me out now
[00:24] <arand> FlugHaffen: And then "setup hd2" (c is third 2 is third counting from 0)
[00:24] <mechdave> Guest522, No point in forwarding port 80 if your ISP blocks it!
[00:24] <Guest522> whats the point in using ubuntu if somebody cant even help
[00:25] <arand> FlugHaffen: sorry "setup (hd2)
[00:25] <ultraputz> has anyone had full-disk encryption fail after recent update?
[00:25] <un|matrix> joker_: the padevchooser might prove a useful tool
[00:25] <Guest522> but, i wont no if thy block it till i try
[00:25] <mrwes> ignore
[00:25] <joker_> un|matrix: yeah but I'll have to read to code a script to wrap everything so that you can listen to any pulseaudio server from any computer...
[00:25] <ultraputz> get dropped to busybox?
[00:25] <FlugHaffen> didnt get any errors
[00:25] <FlugHaffen> arand, lemme reboot see what happens
[00:25] <joker_> un|matrix: Yeah I used that for my bluetooth headphones
[00:25] <arand> FlugHaffen: good luck
[00:25] <FlugHaffen> arand, thanks and thanks for the help
[00:25] <SerialKiller> im looking for a good fps or mmorpg for ubuntu
[00:25] <mechdave> Guest522, this is not actually Ubuntu.. This is basic networking
[00:25] <jrivera> question: what is the best server backup policy: full+incremental, full+differential, or real-time?
[00:26] <zefyx> no one knows anything about raid then eh?
[00:26] <un|matrix> joker_: uhm... what do u mean by 'listen to any pulseaudio server from any computer'?
[00:26] <joker_> SerialKiller: if you find one, let me know ;)
[00:26] <arand> SerialKiller: quakelive,?
[00:26] <SerialKiller> that is free??
[00:26] <arand> SerialKiller: indeed.
[00:26] <un|matrix> joker_: u have multiple servers and multiple clients?
[00:26] <mrwes> jrivera, how much space do you have for backups?
[00:26] <bucky> Guest522, you can't get into your dsl modem?  maybe they do it different in the uk
[00:26] <SerialKiller> got a homepage
[00:26] <SerialKiller> ??
[00:26] <joker_> un|matrix: well, pulseaudio would have to be streaming at some point, and the clients would have to connect to it to get the feed. And yes, I have multiple servers, multiple clients
[00:26] <zefyx> i had two drive's drop from an array
[00:26] <jrivera> terabyte drive
[00:26] <zefyx> no one knows anything about raid then eh?
[00:26] <FlugHaffen> arand, back at CLI
[00:26] <zefyx> neither were accessed/formatted. both are uninitalized right now
[00:26] <zefyx> what do i need to do to force them back into my raid 5?
[00:26] <FloodBot3> zefyx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <joker_> un|matrix: right now, as I said, you can control any server from any machine and listen to it aswell
[00:26] <un|matrix> joker_: actually the server decides where it streams to, the clients just listen
[00:27] <mrwes> jrivera, if you have the room -- full + full :)
[00:27] <arand> SerialKiller: google.com ;) --> quakelive.com
[00:27] <SerialKiller> thnx lol
[00:27] <joker_> un|matrix: well, I'll have to read and see what I can do with that
[00:27] <joker_> un|matrix: if theres a way to "send" the music to the clients, there will be a way to make it do what I want
[00:27] <arand> FlugHaffen: hum...
[00:27] <un|matrix> joker_: it's designed to do that
[00:27] <FlugHaffen> arand, i know
[00:28] <jrivera> mrwes: but won't it overwrite files for the previous days? what if we want to puul back to say three days back?
[00:28] <mrwes> joker_, you need music sharing from the server?
[00:28] <FlugHaffen> arand, im stumped and frustrated
[00:28] <jrivera> *pull
[00:29] <cerol> can you install wubi with truecrypt encrypted windows system?
[00:29] <jrivera> by the way what would be the ideal backup tool to use, i read a lot about rsync
[00:29] <joker_> mrwes: I have a file server wich holds the files, a media center that runs most of the multimedia things, but I wanted to have mpd servers / clients on each machine, controllable by any other machine and streaming trough icecast. I have that, the problem is the sync. If I connect with 3 clients to 1 server, they're out of sync and it kinda sucks. Using pulseaudio should sove this problem (instead of icecast).
[00:29] <cerol> can you install wubi on a  truecrypt encrypted windows system?
[00:29] <joker_> mrwes: got it ;) ?
[00:29] <mrwes> joker_, barely :) say again? heh
[00:30] <joker_> mrwes: I had a problem, we found a possible solution, Imma try it. ;)
[00:30] <mrwes> joker_, I use mt-daapd for media/music shares -- works with Ubuntu clients and Windows iTunes
[00:30] <joaopinto> cerol, only if the windows bootloader can decrypt the partition before booting it :)
[00:31] <joker_> mrwes: thats not a share, thats streaming. Say you wanna listen to the radio, you can be in your car or on as many "clients" you like say your home stereo, everything will be in sync.
[00:31] <mrwes> ic
[00:31] <joker_> mrwes: if you have 3 stereo in your house and all of them listen to the same radio station, the sound is in sync and it works fine
[00:31] <cerol> joaopinto: i dont know the answer to that
[00:32] <joaopinto> cerol, it's no
[00:32] <joker_> mrwes: with mp3 radio it,s not the same, due to buffering
[00:32]  * Gouda slaps joker_ around a bit with a large trout
[00:32] <cerol> joaopinto: how do you know?
[00:32] <ConstantineXVI> How do you reset your X settings to their OOB defaults?
[00:32] <joker_> Gouda: sry for that
[00:33] <joker_> *about
[00:33] <dodddummy> seems i read somewhere there was a 'magic' command which made lcd monitors, crisper.  is there such thing?
[00:33] <joker_> anyway thx, I'm out
[00:33] <frt975> Are there advanced window management utilities for GNOME? Like in KDE?
[00:35] <cerol> can you install wubi on a truecrypt encrypted windows system anyone?
[00:35] <thiebaude> !wubi | cerol
[00:36] <joker_> un|matrix: by the way, pulseaudio wont work. It woudl redirect all of the audio. Wich is not what I want as the media center, for instance, is also used to watch tv and such. The server must be totally headless.
[00:36] <tjb> I'm trying to charge my USB cell phone, but it's not working.  Anyone know how to setup the USB driver to let it use 500mA?
[00:36] <joker_> un|matrix: anyway, the gf is back from work, I,ll check that out later. cya
[00:36] <cerol> thiebaude: my question concerns bootup, not the installation.
[00:36] <un|matrix> joker_: you can only redirect specific applications with it
[00:37] <joker_> un|matrix: nice, Ill read on that
[00:38] <thiebaude> cerol, when you install wubi from windows, when you reboot you will have 2 OS choices at boot time
[00:38] <arand> FlugHaffen: Hmm, if we try to reinstall grub then, use "grub-install /dev/sdc1" from livecd.
[00:38] <Guest80661> could somebody help me with opening file uif please?
[00:38] <arand> FlugHaffen: hang on no wait
[00:39] <arand> FlugHaffen: that should be your ubuntu partition there.
[00:39] <arand> FlugHaffen: not the windows one as that above was
[00:39] <FlugHaffen> arand my ubuntu partition is on /dev/sdb1
[00:39] <olvap> how do i install the 64-bit MySQL 5.1.37 in ubuntu
[00:39] <cerol> thiebaude: but will you get the truecrypt system encryptopn prompt first or the bootup prompt?
[00:40] <boss_mc> does anyone know what !bing is referring to?
[00:40] <arand> FlugHaffen: yes, use that one instead, and you'll have to prepend sudo as well.
[00:40] <boss_mc> !bing
[00:40] <thiebaude> cerol, now that one i dont know, because i know nothing of truecrypt
[00:40] <thiebaude> i wish i could help, cerol
[00:41] <Guest80661> can somebody help me with iso files?
[00:41] <mechdave> boss_mc, Isn't that the new search engine for Microsoft?
[00:41] <thiebaude> Guest80661, what is your question?
[00:41] <Emery> what is the command to see what devices i have connected in terminal
[00:42] <mechdave> Emery, what kind of devices you talking about?
[00:42] <Emery> usb
[00:42] <Emery> stick
[00:42] <Guest80661> thiebaude: can't open a file on disk, it supossed to be file with meditation music and txt together
[00:42] <arand> FlugHaffen: what does a reboot make of that?
[00:43] <thiebaude> Guest80661, ok, maybe someone might have an answer
[00:43] <h2g2bob> Guest80661: Convert UIF file with http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/uif2iso
[00:43] <boss_mc> mechdave: possibly, doesn't explain the reply
[00:43] <thiebaude> thats's fast
[00:43] <mechdave> boss_mc, I would think it shoi=uld be bong myself
[00:44] <FlugHaffen> arand, not there yet
[00:44] <Emery> mechdave, usb stick
[00:44] <Guest80661> h2g2bob: thank's mate, i wish u all good!
[00:44] <h2g2bob> Guest80661: np :)
[00:44] <andres__> hey people!
[00:45] <FlugHaffen> hi andres_
[00:45] <andres__> how are ya
[00:45] <mechdave> Emery, you could type in mount that will tell you what is mounted
[00:45] <FlugHaffen> arand, "could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[00:46] <arand> FlugHaffen: also, you might have to go through the grub install to mbr that you did before as well, since the mbr has to know the exact location of the grub files (and reinstalling them might reorganize them when it comes to raw harddisk geomrtry)
[00:46] <andres__> i got a chestion
[00:46] <andres__> question*
[00:46] <sagaci> you know how when you hover over an audio file, it plays/demos the file, how far are we off being able to do that with video files
[00:46] <andres__> could anybody tell me how can i go form this channel to the spanish one?
[00:46] <FlugHaffen> arand, how do i go about doing that?
[00:46] <mechdave> Emery, then you could do a dmesg | grep /dev/whatever/your/usb/is/attached/to
[00:46] <bucky> !es | andres__
[00:46] <arand> FlugHaffen: is that asfter grub install /dev/sdb1 ?
[00:47] <bucky> andres__, /join #ubuntu-es
[00:47] <IdleOne> andres__: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:47] <FlugHaffen> arand, yea
[00:47] <mechdave> Emery, that will tell you what it is
[00:47] <Furythor> Hello, does anyone here have wine installed on their system ? If so could you check that can you update repositories ?
[00:47] <Guest80661> h2g2bob: One more thing, what should i install there?
[00:47] <Emery> mechdave i did mount /media/sda1 /mnt/media and .. mount: special device /media/sda1 does not exist
[00:48] <mechdave> Emery, try sudo mount -a /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[00:49] <alyce> how can i enable networking, i'm hooked up to a router with my other computer which is a xp, how can i enable sharing between the two?
[00:49] <Emery> mechdave, i am root
[00:49] <mechdave> Emery, get out of root and use sudo
[00:49] <Furythor> Alyce, you mean you want to be in same "workgroup" ?
[00:49] <IdleOne> alyce: to share internet from windows ##windows would be better place to ask
[00:50] <Furythor> Yeah
[00:50] <mechdave> Emery, using root is way too dangerous... even for me :)
[00:50] <alyce> furythor, yes i want to be able to share files between the two, i can see my network, but cannot open it
[00:50] <Furythor> yeah issue is that Linux can easily see others in "networks" when windows may not
[00:50] <IdleOne> !samba | alyce
[00:51] <Furythor> that is propably best solution
[00:51] <alyce> thanks
[00:52] <Emery> mechdave, i'm not a linux nub
[00:52] <Emery> lol
[00:53] <alyce> btw, does anyone know when firefox will be updated, the new 3.5.2 is out but i still have the old one
[00:53] <mechdave> Emery, Well ok, neither am I, I have been using Linux for about 10 years. Use root at your own risk.
[00:53] <arand> FlugHaffen: Ok, seems like that was the wrong syntax, let's see if "grub-install /dev/sdb" works better?
[00:53] <rndm_> karmic alpha 3 seems busted on modern imacs, there's no fb device in /dev, where to report?
[00:53] <Emery> mechdave, i've been using it for 6
[00:54] <rndm_> X won't start for the live cd
[00:54] <mechdave> Emery, You need to find where the system has attached your usb stick in the /dev directory structure
[00:54] <FlugHaffen> arand, same result
[00:54] <Emery> mechdave, it's just being a bitch
[00:54] <alejandra> hola
[00:55] <mechdave> Emery, un plug your usb stick and then wait 30 secs to 1 min and then re plug it
[00:55] <Furythor> Hey in case someone else wonders wine .deb site is down for now, so if anyone else asks it,  it is known and probably being repaired.
[00:55] <Hargon> OK, i have this computer that refused to boot (no CMOS)..  it finally booted when the video card was replaced BUT...  my Ubuntu config still uses the drivers for my OLD card..  how can I start up in "safe mode" to detect this new card and install its drivers?
[00:55] <Emery> mechdave, i have
[00:56] <mechdave> Emery, Then dmesg and see where your usb has been attached
[00:57] <FlugHaffen> arand, i appreciate all your help but i gotta go back to school.  later I might go get my previous .iso
[00:57] <Adola> Does anyone know how to enable WPA and WPA2 Enterprise Networking for Linux Mint?
[00:57] <olvap> how could i know the path of mysql?
[00:57] <olvap> where is mysql installed?
[00:57] <veinor> the binary?
[00:57] <arand> FlugHaffen: ok, yea, I'm kinda stumped here as well, lets hope it works out in the end.
[00:58] <veinor> which mysql
[00:58] <veinor> I think
[00:58] <Furythor> Hargon you should be able to see that 3 second timer for selecting operating system, there are quite few options
[00:58] <olvap> 64-bit MySQL 5.1.37 in ubuntu
[00:58] <mechdave> Emethe dmesg should look similar to this --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/262804/
[00:59] <icarus> why might i  be getting a 73 in the acid 3 test ?
[00:59] <icarus> for fire fox
[00:59] <mechdave> What the... where did Emery go?
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 whoah
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[01:00] <FloodBot3> EN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 haha shit
[01:00] <icarus> what is going on?
[01:00] <josh_> LIRC and LCDd both die when i build the modules for both my mceusb2 and my iMON VFD. When I only build the module for the mceusb2 IR reciever, it works fine. Is there any way to run two seperate instances of LCDd and lirc, so that I can use both devices?
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[01:01] <IdleOne> Hargon: when you see the Grub message...3 2 1 hit ESC and it will give you option to boot in recovery
[01:01] <Pici>  Please disable that here.
[01:01] <Hargon> ok..  i'm at the grub menu
[01:02] <Hargon> ok..  nvm..  it's fixed!  (selected xfix in the recovery options)
[01:02] <patricia> Hola
[01:03] <patricia> alguien puede ayudarme quiero entrar a una charla irc sobre ubuntu estoy en el lugar correcto
[01:03] <prince_jammys> patricia: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:04] <Xalt0r> damn 1322 hackers
[01:04] <Xalt0r> on the loose
[01:05] <denneb> Bonsoir.
[01:06] <denneb> Paix sur ubuntu .
[01:06] <Xalt0r> Speak english man.
[01:06] <denneb> Excuse me.
[01:06] <Furythor> Xaltor yeah and they all are about to hack you :D
[01:06] <teehee> how come no matter what i do i cant get to seem to open a port that will work with deluge it always says the port is closed
[01:06] <Xalt0r> lol
[01:06] <Gravitron> ROFL
 Excuse me.----> See I knew you knew how to speak english
[01:07] <Gravitron> hi rj
[01:07] <denneb> Cool.
[01:07] <denneb> good.
[01:07] <denneb> Bye
[01:08] <Xalt0r> lol how come the majority of channels on freenode
[01:08] <Xalt0r> are linux
[01:09] <teehee> how come no matter what i do i cant get to seem to open a port that will work with deluge it always says the port is closed
[01:09] <bastidraZor> teehee: are you behind a router?
[01:10] <majikman> how do i find out when ubuntu plans on upgrading a package?
[01:10] <teehee> what do u mean i can opne ports from anywhere but yeas i am
[01:10] <bastidraZor> teehee: you have to forward ports on your router.
[01:11] <teehee> yeah i did that many times but no go i have firestarter but i turned it off
[01:11] <bucky> majikman, when a new release comes out  in two month or when a security update happens which ever comes first
[01:11] <mmonlsd> majikman,  or follow launchpad newsletters (:
[01:11] <Xalt0r> Yea
[01:12] <majikman> bucky, whats the variance of that 2-month window?
[01:12] <Dulak> majikman: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:12] <bucky> majikman, karmic come out then
[01:12] <bucky> majikman, go to launchpad
[01:14] <majikman> ok thanks
[01:14] <commander_> does anyone have 9.10 yet?beta. i'm just getting it
[01:14] <bucky> commander_, yeah it sucks
[01:14] <commander_> they have some phat themes for it
[01:14] <bucky> almost as much as jaunty
[01:14] <commander_> really bucky
[01:14] <IdleOne> commander_: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 discussion
[01:14] <commander_> u got alpha or beta
[01:15] <bastidraZor> commander_:  #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[01:15] <bucky> commander_, look at how many people are having problems with it in here
[01:15] <Xalt0r> rage against the machine
[01:16] <Raydiation> hm something is deeply bugged with ubuntu grub-install or update grub
[01:16] <Raydiation> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu when after an update grub throws error 17
[01:16] <Raydiation> after installation it worked perfectly
[01:18] <Bor33D> if i do an ifconfig eth0 that will tell me my machines ip correct?
[01:18] <mechdave> Bor33D, Yep
[01:18] <Bor33D> thank you
[01:19] <lakov> ...
[01:19] <lakov> hello
[01:19] <Bor33D> i believe i have sorted out the portforwarding problem
[01:19] <Bor33D> im not 100% sure but ill try
[01:19] <lakov> any body here?
[01:19] <mechdave> Bor33D, Along with your MAC address, and some other stuff
[01:19] <Bor33D> yea thats ok
[01:21] <Calmcacil> hey Folks
[01:21] <lakov> any body here?
[01:21] <lakov> ...
[01:21] <mechdave> Bor33D, or you could get swanky and do a ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr"
[01:21] <cremaster> I'm on a network with a shared printer system. can successfully retrieve and print jobs from the print queue if I create a user with username=network username. However, my Ubuntu login is not the same as my network username, so my print jobs are getting lost.
[01:21] <lakov> blur
[01:21] <cremaster> I thought the solution would be in Printer Configuration->Printer Options->User Name = Custom User Name, but there is nowhere to specify the 'Custom User Name' and I am not prompted for it when I send a print job
[01:21] <kpkudi> how do i start the frontend version of beagle
[01:21] <cremaster> How do I specify my custom username?
[01:21] <wolf23> help please! how can i copy video_ts from dvd to home in terminal?
[01:22] <swiftegz> hey i need help my screen resolutions isnt right
[01:22] <anathematic> how do I update the time on my ubuntu server?
[01:23] <mechdave> anathematic, use ntp
[01:23] <swiftegz> i need help my screen resolution isn't right
[01:23] <mmonlsd> I share a internet connection to a dreambox 500 via wifi to ethernet. In xp I used to type the ip of my dreambox in firefox and it would open the dreambox interface (aftera asking for login) but now I cant .... I type the dreambox ip in firefox and it doesn't open the location.... any suggestions?
[01:24] <anathematic> thanks mechdave  I'll google now
[01:24] <Xalt0r> dreambox it
[01:24] <bucky> anathematic, right click on the clock and Preferences => Time Settings
[01:24] <bastidraZor> ’dpkg-reconfigure tzdata’ anathematic
[01:24] <mechdave> anathematic, network time protocol, it will sync with an internet based host to set the time on your server
[01:24] <swiftegz> hey i need help my screen resolution isn't right
[01:24] <anathematic> mechdave:  that sounds like what I'm after, for some reason it's 20 minutes off..
[01:24] <mmonlsd> Xalt0r, q; q; there are no ubuntu users playing with dreambox :P
[01:25] <anathematic> also bucky it was a server, no ui ;)
[01:25] <ingcomrbr> I need job... !!!
[01:25] <bucky> anathematic, fix it in your bio
[01:25] <ingcomrbr> I am from mexico and I need job..
[01:25] <Xalt0r> cool
[01:25] <swiftegz> i need help my screen resolution isn't right
[01:25] <Xalt0r> You can work on my fence bro
[01:25] <Calmcacil> Where does one redirect desire to kill people for stuff not working?
[01:25] <mechdave> anathematic, If you set your BIOS to GMT and set the locale for the server properly it should be all cool
[01:26] <Xalt0r> or should I say "hombre" :o
[01:26] <swiftegz> i need help my screen resolution isn't right
[01:26] <armand> ayone have experience or understand how to read the output of smartctl ?
[01:26] <swiftegz> i need help my screen resolution isn't right
[01:26] <anathematic> mmmm don't want to reset the server to access bios..
[01:26] <ingcomrbr> swiftegz, what is your hardware type?
[01:26] <mechdave> swiftegz, can you give more details please, like your video card make and model
[01:26] <ingcomrbr> please details
[01:26] <Guest91205> I believe I have a bad harddrive but I can't tell if its in fact that or the OS (was vista, no jokes please).
[01:26] <Calmcacil> Im trying to get my RadeonHD to work properly but after getting the radeonhd driver installed i get "no video ram detected."
[01:26] <Xalt0r> details in pm
[01:26] <swiftegz> 64bit athlonx2 nvidia
[01:27] <mechdave> anathematic, well ntp will still do the job, just need to set the locale on your server correctly
[01:27] <mechdave> swiftegz, are you running gnome?
[01:27] <swiftegz> hp dv6000
[01:27] <swiftegz> ??gnome
[01:27] <bucky> anathematic, install ntpdate and use that
[01:27] <alex007> ayone have experience or understand how to read the output of smartctl ?
[01:27] <mechdave> swiftegz, gnome desktop
[01:28] <swiftegz> how do i check if i am using that
[01:28] <Calmcacil> man this is some frustrating stuff, ive been googling it and still nada.
[01:28] <swiftegz> im sorry im a little new to this
[01:28] <anathematic> wooo
[01:28] <anathematic> it's up and running now
[01:28] <anathematic> thanks mechdave
[01:28] <wolf23> help please! how can i copy video_ts from dvd to home in terminal , coz the video_ts size = 4ghb
[01:29] <mechdave> swiftegz, that's ok, what un=buntu did you install?
[01:29] <mechdave> swiftegz, that's ok, what ubuntu did you install?
[01:29] <bucky> anathematic, or rdate
[01:29] <swiftegz> 9.04 home edition
[01:29] <mechdave> anathematic, no worries, anytime :)
[01:29] <Xalt0r> windows xp home edition
[01:29] <Xalt0r> hey I have that 2
[01:29] <anathematic> bucky: I ended up just using ntpdate w/ a cron job to make sure it behaves, thanks too
[01:29] <swiftegz> or should i say desktop edition
[01:29] <Xalt0r> They made a desktop edition?
[01:29] <alex007> ayone have experience or understand how to read the output of smartctl ?
[01:30] <josh_> How can I force the "lirc_imon" module to be loaded AFTER the lirc_mceusb2 module has been loaded?
[01:30] <bucky> anathematic, nice!
[01:30] <x404x> why are there so many different ubuntu releases and what is the difference ? is there any descriptions on what differs a kubuntu from xubuntu f.ex ?
[01:31] <bucky> anathematic, ntp is just another daemon... a little too much in most cases
[01:31] <cremaster> How do I specify a custom username for a print job?
[01:31] <swiftegz> i dont care i just want my screen resolution fixed
[01:31] <boss_mc> !versions | x404x
[01:31] <boss_mc> fail
[01:31] <Xalt0r> I can fix it for you.
[01:31] <proq> my tty1 (control-alt-F1) makes the screen flicker.  what file can I edit in /etc to not spawn this tty?
[01:31] <mechdave> swiftegz, ok I am assuming it is gnome... go System --> Administration --> Hardware Drivers
[01:31] <x404x> hm daemons, is that why they are so much trouble all the time ? lol
[01:31] <Xalt0r> mechdave
[01:31] <Xalt0r> thats completely wrong
[01:32] <mechdave> Xalt0r, why?
[01:32] <x404x> i bet news is a daemon too, just like my mother
[01:32] <swiftegz> ok
[01:32] <Xalt0r> Its start-->Control panel---> appearance and themes
[01:32] <bigdavejoker> looking for help with ekiga it crashes every time I try and start my webcam
[01:32] <boss_mc> Xubuntu = ubuntu with xfce desktop, kubuntu = ubuntu with KDE desktop, ubuntu = ubuntu, edubuntu = ubuntu with educational programs
[01:32] <Xalt0r> Shit I thought you were a hacker
[01:32] <proq> !getty
[01:32] <boss_mc> !ohmy | Xalt0r
[01:32] <swiftegz> now what
[01:32] <mechdave> Xalt0r, I am checking first to see if swiftegz has the nvidia drivers installed
[01:33] <mechdave> Xalt0r, I beg your pardon? You thought I was a what?
[01:33] <Xalt0r> I thought you were a hacker
[01:33] <mechdave> Xalt0r, What ever gave you that idea?
[01:34] <Xalt0r> You're like in #ubuntu
[01:34] <Xalt0r> and give out advice
[01:34] <serp> don't you know that all linux users are hackers
[01:34] <x404x> so if i install kde stuff do i have kubuntu ? i think im using both gnome and kde stuff
[01:34] <mechdave> Xalt0r, So? I am an experienced user of Linux... doesn't make me a hacker/cracker
[01:34] <sebsebseb> serp: I was going to say something like that :)
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Xalt0r: hacker is not what the media says it is
[01:34] <x404x> is xfce better ?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> the media are wrong
[01:34] <Xalt0r> You probably hack on the side.
[01:34] <Xalt0r> Shit I have to be careful you could like get all my info
[01:35] <proq> Xalt0r: I hack all day long
[01:35] <Xalt0r> and spread it to a 3rd party
[01:35] <serp> my password is 12345
[01:35] <Xalt0r> guys want a porn password
[01:35] <Xalt0r> I have plenty of those XD
[01:35] <serp> same as my luggage combination
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !troll | Xalt0r
[01:35] <SuperMIguel> ill take one
[01:35] <x404x> nobody would guess that serp, especially after you announce it 1350 people
[01:35] <mechdave> Xalt0r, I take offence to your approach. Please kindly desist and go away if you have nothing worthwhile to say
[01:35] <swiftegz> ok i installed the recommended one should i install the other
[01:35] <boss_mc> x404x: you can install kde things in ubuntu, you can even install kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu
[01:36] <x404x> is that for your luggage or the air shield for druidia  ? ;=)
[01:36] <boss_mc> x404x: they old change what the default apps/settings are
[01:36] <Xalt0r> mechdave: fuck the what?
[01:36] <mechdave> swiftegz, no the recommended is usually the best anyways
[01:36] <sebsebseb> !ops |  Xalt0r
[01:36] <boss_mc> !ops | Xaltor
[01:36] <boss_mc> 2nd, and a typo.... poor effort boss_mc
[01:36] <DBO> babooom!
[01:36] <sebsebseb> DBO: :)
[01:36] <swiftegz> ok thanx a bundle
[01:37] <hernantion> no puedo ver este video http://firefox.softonic.com/video/novedades-de-firefox-3.5-94
[01:37] <hernantion> pero si puedo ver videos en youtube
[01:37] <hernantion> no se cual sera el problema
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !es |  hernantion
[01:37] <mechdave> swiftegz, No worries, any time :)
[01:37] <DBO> sebsebseb, sometimes you just gotta enjoy what you do
[01:38] <sebsebseb> DBO: enjoy kicking people you mean?
[01:38] <serp> you should kick more people.... for science
[01:38] <Xalt0r> I don't even get to defend myself
[01:38] <Xalt0r> I just get banned lame
[01:39] <DBO> Xalt0r, for a couple minute, but evading the ban is more lame
[01:39] <Xalt0r> k fine if you want me to shh ill shh
[01:39] <Raydiation> argh grub is bugged
[01:39] <Xalt0r> the bans only a couple minutes Q_Q
[01:39] <deviant-route> there is know justice in cyberspace :)
[01:39] <armorsmith42> where can I find the ath5k module within  linux-backports-modules-intrepid? mentioned on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[01:39] <Gnea> !guidelines > Xalt0r
[01:39] <Gouda> You can't defend yourself because you are suppose to read the channel guidelines before chatting.
[01:39] <DBO> Xalt0r, just dont swear anymore, k?
[01:39] <Xalt0r> K
[01:39] <Raydiation> doesnt boot xp
[01:39] <Xalt0r> I'll read the guidelines
[01:39] <Gnea> Xalt0r: it can be made permanent.
[01:39] <Raydiation> it loads and then hangs at starting up
[01:39] <Xalt0r> brb
[01:39] <nathanmarck> Anyone a apache expert this is a tricky problem :S
[01:40] <Brian> is karmic stable enough to try
[01:40] <Gnea> nathanmarck: not really, but what's the problem?
[01:40] <bigdavejoker> can anyone suggest good docs for getting Ekiga working with webcams?  It crashes everytime I try  and start my webcam with it
[01:40] <dreamcage> e aí povo
[01:40] <serp> what is your problem nathan
[01:40] <Gouda> Nathan: you could also try Apache if you can't get the answer here
[01:40] <nsadmin> you might find one on... hmm, uh, umm, uh, apache.org?
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Brian: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:40] <mechdave> nathanmarck, fire away... we are ready
[01:40] <Gouda> sorry . #Apache
[01:40] <Gnea> !webcam | bigdavejoker
[01:40] <Brian> im doing a fresh install and kinda wanna try karmic but i dunno if its really buggy still
[01:40] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  Brian
[01:40] <bigdavejoker> Gnea Thanks
[01:41] <bigdavejoker> Ubottu  Thanks!
[01:41] <bigdavejoker> hehe opps
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Brian: no that was me triggering the bot
[01:41] <Brian> ok
[01:41] <sebsebseb> bigdavejoker: uh whoops,   that wasn't him that said that
[01:41] <serp> someone tried to paste
[01:41] <Gnea> Brian: it'll likely be buggy until it's released.
[01:41] <Brian> ok
[01:42] <nathanmarck> Sorry for the spam i didnt realise how big it attualy was
[01:42] <foo> rkhunter warns of /usr/bin/curl with a WARNING. any ideas why? I updated curl and it started doing this...
[01:42] <Gnea> Brian: but you're welcome to report on those bugs :) #ubuntu+1 can give you more direction and update
[01:42] <Gouda> use pastebin if it's something large
[01:42] <nathanmarck> Anyone able to help?
[01:42] <serp> nothing came across nathan.. use pastebin
[01:42] <mechdave> nathanmarck, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <nathanmarck> Ahh ok
[01:44] <nathanmarck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/262821/
[01:44] <nathanmarck> I have a feeling it didnt wordwrap
[01:45] <nathanmarck> 0.0 It seems its only the index.php of the certain directories
[01:45] <serp> what do you mean by execute?
[01:45] <nathanmarck> paste it in terminal
[01:45] <mechdave> nathanmarck, you need to check your sites-enabled.conf and check that they haven't been changed by something
[01:45] <nathanmarck> To get rid of "Cannot Connect To Wireless" KDE
[01:46] <nathanmarck> Ok
[01:46] <nathanmarck> Why dont i have a sites-enabled.conf?
[01:47] <mechdave> nathanmarck, can you re state your problem please, I am not sure I understand what your problem is :)
[01:47] <CyberKitsune_> Is there a Mactel support IRC channel here?
[01:47] <nathanmarck> mechdave: Basicly index.php in a dir called mps wont run but other .php files will
[01:48] <mechdave> nathanmarck, now are you running apache web server on that machine?
[01:48] <nathanmarck> On this laptop yes
[01:48] <x404x> whar kind of educational software is on the edubuntu ? anything to learn linux there ?
[01:48] <xiong> i'm stuck in a place i've been stuck before -- i've installed something (in this case, imagemagick) via synaptic but now i can't seem to figure out how to run it -- it doesn't show up in the Applications menu and from the terminal i get the error 'command not found' -- i search using nautilus and i find many many files whose names contain 'imagemagick' but i'm just more confused -- what now?
[01:48] <morph_> hi how to compile kernel whit CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT ?
[01:48] <serp> nathanmarck, if you specify index.php at the end of the url does it execute?
[01:48] <nathanmarck> serp: Nope
[01:49] <serp> nathanmarck, but if you specify any other url with a php ending it does?
[01:49] <nathanmarck> But it will in others
[01:49] <nathanmarck> Yeah
[01:49] <nathanmarck> I have say ubuntu.local/eyeOS/index.php
[01:49] <nathanmarck> That works
[01:49] <nathanmarck> But ubuntu.local/mps/index.php gives me the download dialog
[01:50] <mechdave> nathanmarck, Ok now what happens is that some directories (usually /var/www/html) will run php and then you have to specifically enable the other directories to allow php to run in either the php.conf or sites-enabled.conf
[01:50] <Ben64> xiong: imagemagick is command line
[01:50] <SuperMIguel> whats the name of the bluethooth manager in ubuntu (gnome)??
[01:50] <mechdave> SuperMIguel, bluez
[01:50] <bucky> morph_, grep CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT /boot/config-`uname -r`
[01:50] <serp> nathanmarck, so it isn't just index.php but only index.php within /mps?  what about other .php within /mps
[01:51] <bucky> morph_, don't you have it already
[01:51] <nathanmarck> other .php withing /mps work perfectly
[01:51] <nathanmarck> Its this evil index.php file in /mps
[01:51] <xiong> Ben64, that i understand -- as i say, the bash/terminal window says 'command not found' -- i don't understand that
[01:52] <morph_> i have v4l2 but need v4l1
[01:52] <Ben64> xiong: it gives you commands like "display, mogrify, and convert"
[01:52] <morph_> now work tnx
[01:52] <nathanmarck> Oh and if i decide to go to say ubuntu.local/eyeOS it will tell me to download ".php"
[01:52] <xiong> i expect imagemagick itself to complain when i invoke it without cli options but i don't expect bash to choke
[01:52] <ultraputz> has anyone had full-disk encryption fail after recent update?
[01:52] <ultraputz> get dropped to busybox?
[01:52] <xikteny> xiong: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php
[01:53] <ultraputz> lvm complaning about file descriptors?
[01:53] <qcjn> can anybody help me , with the cups printer configuration...it works on my ubuntu 8.04 but can't connect from Vista ?
[01:53] <xiong> Ben64, xikteny, that's not my question -- i don't know what to do when bash can't find an installed package
[01:53] <nathanmarck> Im going to try to reset my cache
[01:53] <Ben64> xiong: try running "convert"
[01:53] <xikteny> xiong: imagemagick  is a set of separate executables, not one 'imagemagick' command
[01:54] <xiong> oh
[01:54] <nathanmarck> :/ Stupid mozilla firefox mocking me. Sorry for the troubles FireFox decided to be... A WINDOWS PROGRAM "Dun Dun DUUUUUH"
[01:54] <bucky> morph_, grep CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT /boot/config-`uname -r`  returns CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT=y  for me
[01:54] <mechdave> nathanmarck, Lol
[01:55] <serp> nathanmarck, It sounds like you are missing a "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" or some such line in httpd.conf  or that something is messed up with it in the htaccess structures
[01:55] <xikteny> xiong: if you want a unified tool, look into "graphicsmagick"
[01:55] <mnaines1> nathanmarck: I got a Windows machine that's trying to be a Mac...It keeps throwing a popup asking me to download Quicktime and Safari
[01:55] <Xalt0r> just a question
[01:55] <xiong> doesn't that pollute the bash namespace terribly? there are many, many imagemagick commands
[01:55] <Xalt0r> is it true if you use linux you won't get a girlfriend
[01:55] <nathanmarck> serp: I fixed it, Firefox wanted to be a windows app for a moment
[01:55] <ultraputz> xalt0r -- for you, it appears so.
[01:55] <serp> ok
[01:55] <Ben64> Xalt0r: so far, seems to be true :(
[01:55] <Xalt0r> lol
[01:55] <nathanmarck> mnaines1: I had a mac... I killed it in 5 mins
[01:56] <mnaines1> Xalt0r: Actually, I've used Windows for years...Getting a girlfriend has nothing to do with your computer skills and everything to do with how you treat women
[01:56] <morph_> bucky, tnx i have installed flashcam becouse flashplayer10 have bug for recording
[01:56] <morph_> now work
[01:56] <xiong> xikteny, i'm going to be writing perl to use imagemagick on a remote server, which means i'll be using Image::Magick -- i'm only interesting in experimenting via the cli on my local machine
[01:56] <Xalt0r> But women don't like to treaten like maching
[01:56] <Gouda> My girlfriend actually asked me last night that she loves Linux and wants me to install it on her laptop
[01:56] <nathanmarck> With me the alarm should go off before i go into the computer store
[01:56] <Xalt0r> so if you're good at computers you'll probably treat her like your linux
[01:56] <mnaines1> Xalt0r: Women want a man who will treat them right
[01:56] <serp> my wife has used linux now for about 1 year
[01:56] <Ben64> Gouda: i think thats a euphemism for something way kinkier
[01:56] <ultraputz> and you girlfriend's name is cheddar?
[01:57] <Gouda> :)
[01:57] <mnaines1> Believe me, I know what it takes for a good relationship...I've always been the type of guy who ends up as a "bandage" for emotionally tortured women who get out of bad relationships and have nobody to turn to
[01:57] <Xalt0r> gouda, thats a helluva job you've done there
[01:57] <serp> here we go again mnaines
[01:57] <Xalt0r> I can't believe this you admitted to being a trick online D:
[01:57] <Gouda> Yeah. My girlfriend loves me because I'm a nerd...and she's hot too
[01:58] <alex007> ayone have experience or understand how to read the output of smartctl ?
[01:58] <wolf23> help please! how can i copy video_ts from dvd to home in terminal , coz the video_ts size = 4gb
[01:58] <ultraputz> wolf -- cp
[01:58] <Xalt0r> nmaine you can't let people trick you like that
[01:58] <mechdave> Xalt0r, didn't you know, it is cool to be a nerd now days
[01:58] <mnaines1> Gouda: I know a female hacker, and she likes men who help her gain access to other machines
[01:58] <ultraputz> mechdave - no, it's not.
[01:58] <Xalt0r> lol dave
[01:58] <hozomean_> i went to sleep and woke back up and the room became something strange and different
[01:58] <wolf23> ultraputz,  please my dvdrom = /dev/sr0
[01:58] <alex007> How the heck is smartctl intelligible?
[01:58] <mersault> Dear Lazyweb: What's the easiest way to tell apt-get that I don't want to update a particular package, and to stop bothering me about it?
[01:58] <ultraputz> do...
[01:59] <Xalt0r> You guys are pretty smart for nerds
[01:59] <mechdave> ultraputz, Ssshhhh, don't burst my bubble ;)
[01:59] <ultraputz> wolf - type "man cp"
[01:59] <wolf23> ultraputz,  what can i type in terminal to copy the whole video_ts to home?
[01:59] <Ben64> wolf23: dude, yeah, "cp" = copy, its really not complicated
[01:59] <mnaines1> Xalt0r: That's because we're geeks, not nerds...The difference is the geeks are genuine intelligence while the nerds are just wanna-be's
[01:59] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Xalt0r
[01:59] <Xalt0r> I thought it was the other way around.
[01:59] <nathanmarck> wolf23: Isnt video_ts just pointers to the real data?
[01:59] <Ben64> and dorks are....
[02:00] <ultraputz> Ben64, trolls.
[02:00] <mechdave> mnaines1, yeah?? That was different in my day... but then again there was no such thing as geek either
[02:00] <alokito> how to change user image in kubuntu?
[02:00] <mersault> I always think of the nerd vs geek divide as being one largely based on social skills.
[02:00] <Ben64> ultraputz: actually, whale junk = dork
[02:00] <balance> hello every on
[02:00] <mnaines1> mersault: Yeah, it is...The geeks are the antisocial ones
[02:00] <sebsebseb> !ot
[02:00] <alokito> im getting this error: Your administrator has disallowed changing your image.
[02:00] <Ben64> nathanmarck: video_ts is the dvd video directory, houses all the vob files
[02:00] <Xalt0r> arent some geeks like god hackers
[02:00] <ultraputz> Ben64, i could have gone the rest of my life happily not knowing that, but thanks. :-)
[02:00] <Xalt0r> they never go outside and programming every day
[02:01] <mersault> mnaines1: really? I think of the nerds as being bereft of social skills, while geeks have their own chic thing going on
[02:01] <Ben64> ultraputz: i'm here to inform :D
[02:01] <balance> anny body can speek chinese?
[02:01] <mechdave> alokito, speak to your administrator :)
[02:01] <Ben64> !ch
[02:01] <sebsebseb> !ch |  balance
[02:01] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  i open the dvd and it contains a folder name: video_ts
[02:01] <Ben64> damn
[02:01] <Xalt0r> ni hao laoh shoa
[02:01] <Xalt0r> wan
[02:01] <nathanmarck> 0.0 So if i copy all files from a disc to another disc it will work?!
[02:01] <alokito> mechdave, I am the administrator :-/
[02:01] <nathanmarck> When it has video_ts?
[02:01] <Xalt0r> shlan ling ha
[02:01] <alokito> and im getting the same error with root acc
[02:01] <bucky> !cn
[02:01] <Ben64> ohh
[02:01] <NxTitle> can someone explain to me what exactly I would have to do to get my package into the ubuntu universe repository? I don't think I would for months, however I would like to know so I can write it down for the future
[02:02] <Xalt0r> how did you like my chinaman impression
[02:02] <Xalt0r> guise
[02:02]  * mnaines1 ponders why newbies try to admin Linux machines
[02:02] <mechdave> alokito, Oh... then you need to look at the login window settings
[02:02] <bucky> NxTitle, submit it for karmic before the freeze
[02:02] <ultraputz> NxTitle, first you get a chicken, a grass skirt, and some maracas.
[02:02] <Ben64> mnaines1: everyone is a newb at some point
[02:02] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  after i isert the dvd into my dvdrom it shows video_ts folder, and i want to copy it to home from terminal
[02:02] <NxTitle> ultraputz, hehe, thanks
[02:02] <NxTitle> bucky, where do I submit?
[02:02] <nathanmarck> wolf23: Wouldnt it be easier to use sudo nautilus and then move it manualy?
[02:02] <alokito> mechdave, which settings?
[02:02] <NxTitle> do I submit to the mailing list?
[02:02] <mechdave> mnaines1, it is the best way to learn... total immersion
[02:03] <mechdave> alokito, are you running gnome desktop?
[02:03] <alokito> nope kde4
[02:03] <Xalt0r> guys can any of you
[02:03] <mnaines1> Ben64: I know that...What I'm talking about are the people who seem to think they know everything about everything...The kind of people who buy a truck then cannot figure out how to park it or back up a trailer properly
[02:03] <balance> 谁可以告诉我关于缅甸和果敢的最新消息？
[02:03] <Xalt0r> teach me how to distribute a botnet
[02:03] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  i did it manually and i got error
[02:03] <Xalt0r> I want like a massive botnet
[02:03] <Xalt0r> a godnet
[02:03] <nathanmarck> wolf23: What error?
[02:03] <NxTitle> Xalt0r, hard work, and not telling ANYONE about it
[02:03] <NxTitle> which you just failed :P
[02:03] <Ben64> mnaines1: because linux is free :)
[02:03] <Xalt0r> fuck...
[02:03] <nathanmarck> Xalt0r: A godnet.. A LINUXNET!!!!
[02:04] <alokito> mechdave, Im getting this error from the About me section in kde system settings
[02:04] <NxTitle> haha, linuxnet?
[02:04] <nathanmarck> Or  a MacNet
[02:04] <mnaines1> Ben64: And because of that, most people don't research it before they begin using it
[02:04] <mechdave> Can someone help alokito to change login picture on kde4, I have no experience at kde
[02:04] <alokito> oh ok
[02:04] <Xalt0r> I was browsing through this crooked irc
[02:04] <ultraputz> mechdave, alokito -- there's a kubuntu channel, with kde support
[02:04] <Xalt0r> and this guy was selling 300 hacked boxes
[02:04] <Xalt0r> for 1000 euros
[02:04] <Xalt0r> i was like I need to get some of that money
[02:04] <nathanmarck> Hacked boxes?
[02:05] <Xalt0r> rooted or some crap
[02:05] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  error from reading from file input/output
[02:05] <ultraputz> nathan -- like ripped jeans, except with axe marks.
[02:05] <alokito> ultraputz, no one's replying in #kubuntu
[02:05]  * mnaines1 ponders why people get hacked boxes when they know those boxes could be infected with viruses and stuff
[02:05] <mechdave> ultraputz, alokito Of course, try #kde
[02:05] <ultraputz> alokito -- patience is a virtue,.
[02:05] <mjay> Hmm, what difference is there between installing a deb file , and extracting the deb file, putting all the files in the right folder?
[02:05] <alokito> ultraputz, :-|
[02:05] <arand> Xalt0r: That is no topic fro this channel.
[02:05] <nathanmarck> wofl23: Out of curiousity what makes you think terminal will stop that error?
[02:06] <ultraputz> mjay -- aptitude.
[02:06] <ultraputz> in two senses of the word.
[02:06] <mjay> hmm?
[02:06] <lstarnes> mjay: properly installing it makes the system recognize it as being fully installed and makes it easier to uninstall or upgrade the package
[02:06] <Xalt0r> who cares who buys them aslong as you're making money
[02:06] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  i can watch the video on vlc without any error, just when i do copy paste
[02:06] <ultraputz> mjay -- open terminal, type "man apt"
[02:06] <lstarnes> mjay: it also helps make sure that dependencies are met
[02:06] <Guest5530_570> irc embedded nice
[02:07] <test34> wolf23: you need some kind of DVD rip program maybe?
[02:07] <mnaines1> Xalt0r: You want money, get a damn job and stop trying to steal it...Money has to be earned
[02:07] <nathanmarck> wolf23: Ok i decided to help :P be around 2-3 mins and ill have the solution
[02:07] <ultraputz> mnaines1, obviously it does not
[02:07] <Xalt0r> Bullshit, plenty of people make money online.
[02:07] <Xalt0r> This guy I was talking to says he makes 2k a month doing jackshit
[02:07] <alokito> #kde is even more deserted
[02:07] <Xalt0r> some people even make 10 k
[02:07] <ultraputz> Xalt0r, what does this have to do with ubuntu support?
[02:07] <Xalt0r> Idk I thought you guys would explain that to me.
[02:07] <mnaines1> ultraputz: I was raised with a strong work ethic...The "no work no food" kind of work ethic
[02:08] <bucky> NxTitle, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[02:08] <ultraputz> mnaines1, my condolences.
[02:08] <x404x> why so cheap, why not 1000 euros pr box ? ;=)
[02:08] <NxTitle> bucky, thank you :)
[02:08] <test34> Xalt0r: anybody can make money online but not you
[02:08] <mechdave> Xalt0r, I think what you are discussing is not exactly legal in Canada no?
[02:08] <Xalt0r> 1000 euros
[02:08] <Xalt0r> you can sell them that much :o
[02:08] <Xalt0r> per box
[02:08] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  thanx
[02:08] <ultraputz> Xalt0r, you need to open a porn site.
[02:08] <arand> Xalt0r: please, you are breaking !guidelines !launguage and !offtopic please stop.
[02:08] <ultraputz> maybe someone will pay you to tell stupid stories, naked.
[02:08] <Xalt0r> I jacked off like 30 minutes ago :(
[02:08] <mjay> lstarnes, thing is, i have this proprietary deb package (not publicly available). It has no dependencies. However it does run properly on a non-ubuntu (fedora) distro. The error i get is a library included by the deb package, and it's in the right folder - again, it has no dependencies. Any ideas?
[02:08] <Xalt0r> no drive
[02:08] <Xalt0r> or should i say drivers
[02:09] <nadar> for evolution mail i just created a new email address. how do i change the evolution to use that email rather than my current email?
[02:09] <alokito> no one use kde here?
[02:09] <nathanmarck> wolf23: What path is the DVD drive at?
[02:09] <mechdave> Could someone please take care of the troll
[02:09] <Xalt0r> Man its not like I run a botnet dave
[02:09] <ultraputz> nadar - default account setting in the accoutns window
[02:09] <nathanmarck> And what is your Ubuntu Username
[02:09] <miguelonnnn> hi
[02:09] <Xalt0r> I just want to learn how for educational purposes
[02:09] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  /dev/sr0
[02:09] <miguelonnnn> please tell me what exactly are . and ..
[02:09] <mnaines1> ultraputz: I look at it this way - All the companies I've ever worked at, I've been eligible for re-hire solely because I've always been a hard worker and I've had a near-perfect attendance record
[02:09] <Xalt0r> especialyl distrobution methods
[02:09] <Ben64> miguelonnnn: "." is the directory you are currently in, ".." is one level above
[02:09] <miguelonnnn> i've been told they are special hardlinks, but what does special mean in "special hardlinks"?
[02:09] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  wait
[02:10] <sebsebseb> !language |  Xalt0r
[02:10] <miguelonnnn> ben64 i know that :P i mean, what they are to the fs
[02:10] <Xalt0r> whoops
[02:10] <ultraputz> mnaines1, i look at it this way: capitalism is criminality in action. working for it is the same as saying, "yes, exploitation and deprivation are a-ok with me." let's stick to ubuintu support.
[02:10] <Xalt0r> K I'll keep it Pg.
[02:10] <nathanmarck> cp -r /dev/sr0 /home/usernamehere/folderhere  <--- Someone confirm this will work before wolf uses it!!!!
[02:10] <wolf23> nathanmarck,  /media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS
[02:10] <nadar> ultraputz i see no accounts window. where would this be?
[02:10] <ultraputz> nadar - tools menu
[02:10] <^Phantom^> Keaton, speak up dude.
[02:10] <Xalt0r> This is why you pirate windows.
[02:10] <sebsebseb> !ops |  Xalt0r
[02:10] <Xalt0r> oh snap
[02:10] <Xalt0r> What did I do
[02:10] <Keaton> Oh, yeah. Hello.
[02:11] <bigdavejoker> I can't get my webcam to work with ekiga it is supported by the uvcvideo which I have reinstalled and works with skype but crashes ekiga any suggestions?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !piracy |  Xalt0r
[02:11] <^Phantom^> Tell them the specs of that system and ask them if ubuntu is practical for your system.
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !troll |  Xalt0r
[02:11] <Xalt0r> oh sorry
[02:11] <Xalt0r> I wasnt sure
[02:11] <Xalt0r> buy linux, not windows dont even pirate windows its illegal
[02:11] <nathanmarck> cp -r /media/cdrom0 /home/usernamehere/anythingelsehere
[02:11] <x404x> is asking for free money trolling ? ;=)
[02:11] <Ben64> nathanmarck: couldn't one just do "cp -R /media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS ~/"
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !enter |  Xalt0r
[02:11] <^Phantom^> Xalt0r, linux is free
[02:11] <Xalt0r> or download ubuntu for fre
[02:11] <Xalt0r> lol
[02:12] <nathanmarck> Ben64: Thanks
[02:12] <Xalt0r> does ubuntu have a paying version
[02:12] <Xalt0r> thats like feature rich
[02:12] <^Phantom^> no
[02:12] <nathanmarck> Linux may be free but... What is more easier linux or Winblows?
[02:12] <Xalt0r> why not, the guy who owns ubuntu must be rich
[02:12] <silas428> What is the package I need to install to get mkinitrd?
[02:12] <CyberKitsune> is the ubuntu keyserver down guys?
[02:12] <^Phantom^> Ubuntu is feature rich out of the box.
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Xalt0r: he is
[02:12] <x404x> i have some ideas to make money sadly they need about 2 years worth of programming ;(
[02:12] <nadar> ultraputz ok.... i see no tools menu. which dropdown menu do i begin with?
[02:12] <Xalt0r> lol
[02:12] <lstarnes> Xalt0r: the creators of ubuntu intentionally chose to make it available without charge
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Xalt0r: ,bu Ubuntu didn't make him rich
[02:12] <Keaton> I was wondering if someone was available to help me. I've decided to convert one of my PC's OS into Linux, and I chose Ubuntu for the task. So, I was wondering if someone could help me with some questions. Mainly if my Dell can even handle it :L
[02:13] <Ben64> Ubuntu made him lose money
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Xalt0r: you can  wikipedia/Google Mark Shuttleworth if you like
[02:13] <Xalt0r> wait flashback
[02:13] <lstarnes> Xalt0r: canonical, the company that sponsors ubuntu, does offer paid professional support
[02:13] <^Phantom^> Keaton:  It works fine on my dell.
[02:13] <bucky> NxTitle, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[02:13] <Xalt0r> is he the guy made those signatures
[02:13] <Xalt0r> or some crap
[02:13] <bigdavejoker> Keaton whats the system you have
[02:13] <silas428> Keaton: try a live CD, it won't install and you can make sure everything works
[02:13] <Ben64> Keaton: every computer can handle Linux, most can use Xubuntu, the rest can use Ubuntu
[02:13] <Keaton> I have a Dimension 3100
[02:13] <Xalt0r> shit i was right
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  Xalt0r
[02:13] <Xalt0r> whoops
[02:13] <nathanmarck> Keaton: Sorry to burst your bubble but i tried ubuntu on my dell and it kinda phailed BUT it might just be mine (I had a wierd one, But ill help in any way"
[02:13] <nadar> is xubuntu or ubuntu better?
[02:14] <Xalt0r> I mean good thing my cousin is a computer geek.
[02:14] <Xalt0r> and told me about him
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !best |  nadar
[02:14] <test34> Keaton: yes you can
[02:14] <Lappy> Okay everyone I need help
[02:14] <sebsebseb> nadar: Ubuntu  is better for  most of us though
[02:14] <sebsebseb> nadar: it seems
[02:14] <Xalt0r> but still if he was smart
[02:14] <nadar> gotcha
[02:14] <^Phantom^> !offtopic |  Xalt0r
[02:14] <Xalt0r> woah
[02:14] <nathanmarck> Ubuntu = Ubuntu WITHOUT KDE or Xfce
[02:14] <Xalt0r> nvm
[02:14] <Xalt0r> I keep getting flagged =/
[02:14] <vegancheesesteak> hi all. how can i install gnome on ubuntu server?
[02:14] <Keaton> Okay, my .iso download just finished. For the Desktop Version.
[02:14] <nadar> i wasnt sure if xubuntu was faster or not i never looked into xubuntu much
[02:15] <Xalt0r> yea which is easier windows
[02:15] <Xalt0r> or linux
[02:15] <Ben64> Dell Dimension 3100: Pentium 4 3Ghz, 512MB DDR2, 160Jiggabyte Hard Drive, Intel GMA 900 Video
[02:15] <Ben64> would handle Ubuntu just fine
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Xalt0r: depends on the user, and what programs they want to run
[02:15] <Keaton> Okay. Thanks, Ben. :]
[02:15] <^Phantom^> Xalt0r, for me, linux has been easier.
[02:15] <nathanmarck> Xalt0r: Simple awnser "NONE" computers are in no way easy
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Xalt0r: ,but for the masses  Ubuntu can be  pretty great,  it's just  most of them are going to need someone that will help them out with it properly
[02:15] <Xalt0r> If I want to run porn, is ubuntu the users choice.
[02:16] <Xalt0r> like when i crack passwords on windows i got cain
[02:16] <Lumiere> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[02:16] <Ben64> Keaton: you might want to upgrade ram and video card at some point, and that computer would be really awesome
[02:16] <^Phantom^> !pirace |  Xalt0r
[02:16] <Lappy> I'm using XUbuntu, and I'm running computer Janitor, it found 2 .deb pacakages, and it says Linux-headers-2.6.28-11(.deb pacakage) and the other is the same thing but genetic at the end, is it safe to remove those two files?
[02:16] <^Phantom^> !piracy |  Xalt0r
[02:16] <mechdave> mneptok, thankyou
[02:16] <Ben64> PING keyserver.ubuntu.com (91.189.94.173) 56(84) bytes of data. \\\\\\\ 64 bytes from esperanza.canonical.com (91.189.94.173): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=119 ms
[02:16] <arand> Xalt0r: you are constantly offtopic, if you have a _support_ question or answer, state it, if not, please don't or go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <Keaton> Ben: I've been considering doing so, I've always had a small liking for this computer. Small. But still.
[02:16] <Lumiere> Ben64: hmm
[02:16] <test34> Xalt0r: ahh ontario, that's why
[02:17] <bigdavejoker> mneptok Thank YOU!!!!!
[02:17] <Ben64> Keaton: uh-huh? but you can upgrade the ram and video card without really changing much of the computer
[02:17] <sebsebseb> mneptok: :)
[02:17] <Lappy> SOMEBODY?
[02:17] <Keaton> No, I know that. I meant the fact that I have a bunch of computers in my room. And I barely use that one.
[02:17] <silas428> What do I need to install to get mkinitrd?
[02:17] <Ben64> Keaton: oh ok
[02:17] <^Phantom^> Once you put ubuntu on it, Keaton, you'll notice you are using it more and more. ;)
[02:17] <deviant-route> :~$ anyone know the best video card for gaming
[02:18] <bigdavejoker> I'm looking for any help I can get with ekiga I feel like i"ve tried everything to get it to run without crashing once video card is started
[02:18] <nathanmarck> Out of curiousity how many of you are teens? (Im wondering if ubuntu is teen frendly)
[02:18] <bucky> Lappy, leave them on there
[02:18] <Lappy> Okay
[02:18] <Keaton> Phantom: Probably :]
[02:18] <^Phantom^> It's the OS I use all the time now.
[02:18] <Ben64> !best | deviant-route
[02:18] <mechdave> nathanmarck, perhaps that might be better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:18] <bucky> Lappy, the "genetic" deb just pulls in the other and it's not very big... you might want the headers later on if you want to build a driver or something
[02:18] <mmonlsd> 26 midteens :P
[02:18] <arand> nathanmarck: please don't encourage mass-channel-answer, it wont do good in a channe like this...
[02:19] <nathanmarck> It was to see if any smart linux people came here and where teens
[02:19] <deviant-route> :~$ or i should say the highest performance video card for gaming
[02:19] <Lappy> It says 'Package was installed because another package required it, but now nothing requires it anymore'
[02:19] <nathanmarck> Also joining another channel will kill me (I dunno why but it will somehow)
[02:19] <Lappy> Should I get rid of the non-generic one?
[02:20] <bucky> Lappy  you might want the headers later on if you want to build a driver or something
[02:20] <Lappy> Okay
[02:20] <Lappy> Thanks!
[02:20] <Ben64> nathanmarck: I'm 23, been using Linux since I was like 14
[02:20] <^Phantom^> Keaton:  A lot of windows programs will run fine on linux as well, using wine.  It's how I run Midna's chat client for her bot scripts.
[02:20] <Ben64> deviant-route: nvidia cards generally work the easiest on Linux
[02:20] <mechdave> nathanmarck, most of us here also hang about in #ubuntu-offtopic so we all will still get to see your off topic questions
[02:20] <nathanmarck> Ahh ok
[02:20] <xiong> there are a couple dozen fonts installed by default that seem only to be there for the display of foreign languages -- is there a way for me to hide them from font selection menus/boxes without actually uninstalling them?
[02:20] <Keaton> Phantom: I've been meaning to get new hardware for this thing. Maybe this will be my new determination.
[02:21] <nathanmarck> I might go there in a mo
[02:21] <deviant-route> :~$ ok Ben64, but what about ATI Radeon
[02:21] <^Phantom^> 512 MB RAM should be sufficient for ubuntu.
[02:22] <^Phantom^> I've run it on that before and it worked fine.
[02:22] <Ben64> deviant-route: works, but usually not as easy to get working, and less mature drivers for linux
[02:22] <deviant-route> ok thanks
[02:22] <Ben64> Keaton, ^Phantom^: 512 is fine, yeah. But more is ALWAYS better
[02:22] <Keaton> Phantom: Thank you, and Thank you everyone else who helped me. I shall return later and tell you if it was sucessful. :]
[02:22]  * nathanmarck resists the urge to say "Who wants to help make ubuntu on iphone"
[02:22] <Keaton> Goodbye for now.
[02:23] <SuperMIguel> where can i load a .tar file ? like to be able to get it from another system with wget?
[02:23] <Gnea> nathanmarck: fail.
[02:23] <nathanmarck> How?
[02:23] <Gnea> you just said it :)
[02:23] <nathanmarck> Then again
[02:23] <xiong> i want to install more fonts but first i want to do something about all the already-installed fonts, which aren't too useful to me
[02:24] <dave-ubuntu1> can someone answer this?
[02:24] <dave-ubuntu1> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/81467
[02:26] <xiong> sorry, was mine a dumb question? there are a lot of these foreign language fonts
[02:26] <deviant-route> :~$ has anyone dual boot windows 7 with ubuntu 9.04
[02:26] <SuperMIguel> deviant-route, alot of people have
[02:27] <dave-ubuntu1> can someone answer this?
[02:27] <dave-ubuntu1> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/81467
[02:28] <deviant-route> :~$ @ SuperMIguel: its a diffrent approch from dual booting with xp or vista
[02:30] <Lappy> Okay one more problem
[02:30] <Lappy> I'm installing unrar by terminal
[02:31] <Lappy> but it's asking me to uninstall those two headers to get unrar
[02:31] <slide> I have a firewire "webcam" that I want to use with my server. I'm trying to setup the "motion" package, but it tells me "Not a V4L2 device?" but the webcam was detected and is in /dev/video1394-0
[02:31] <Lappy> Should I uninstall those headers?
[02:31] <NxTitle> has anyone decided the name of ubuntu 10.04?
[02:32] <jmad980> thats 2 releaces from now isn't it Who Cares
[02:32] <SuperMIguel> is there a imageshack.us for files??
[02:32] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, zshare.net
[02:32] <NxTitle> or rapidshare, or megaupload
[02:32] <NxTitle> there are probably more but those are the ones I know of
[02:32] <xiong> i only want the foreign language fonts available to firefox on the offchance that i run into a page that uses them -- i don't want these fonts cluttering font selection boxes/menus -- what can i do?
[02:32] <slide> anyone setup a webcam on ubuntu server before?
[02:33] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, u are the man :) zshare.net
[02:33] <Lappy> Anyone
[02:33] <NxTitle> cool
[02:33] <silas428> What file do I apply kernel patches to?
[02:33] <Lappy> Halp me?
[02:33] <NxTitle> Does anyone know the official name of Ubuntu 10.04?
[02:34] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, umm but i dont get a direct link to downlaod from it :(
[02:34] <IdleOne> !release
[02:35] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, yeah, that's true
[02:35] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, do you know python?
[02:35] <spursncowboys> How can I check my router log to find out if anyones been on my wifi?
[02:35] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, what u need?
[02:35] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, I made a script for zshare that can get the direct download link
[02:35] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, umm link it
[02:35] <deviant-route> :~$ @ NxTitle: they should call it leaping Lynx :)
[02:36] <spursncowboys> Also what does it mean when someone puts "bump" on the Ubuntu Forum?
[02:36] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, I can't find it :S I could re-make it in like 5 minutes though :P
[02:36] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, k thanks =)
[02:36] <NxTitle> no problem
[02:37] <Cyde> Who has better drivers now, Nvidia or ATI?
[02:37] <Lappy> I need some help, those Linux headers that you told me not to remove those, but I want to install unrar, and it's asking me to remove those headers, should I do it?
[02:37] <monster> I am having some wireless issues, my connection drops out pretty often...
[02:38] <monster> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter
[02:38] <monster> anyone had issues with this chipset?
[02:38] <debian_d> what's H.P.D at right in the list of linux distribution? Can anyone tell? http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=52  "Page Hit Ranking" how is it assigned?
[02:38] <Lappy> HELP ME PLEASE???
[02:38] <arand> is mount.ntfs taking a considerable amount of CPU% when heavy writing to ntfs a normal behaviour?
[02:38] <crash1hd> Ok I just picked up a new 1.5tb hdd and want to move my ubuntu install and everything that goes with it from the 1.0tb drive? is this all that hard to do?
[02:39] <bucky> Lappy guess you'll have to remove them.. you can always reinstall them later
[02:39] <sebsebseb> !caps | Lappy
[02:39] <crash1hd> do I just partition the new drive the same as the old
[02:39] <Lappy> Okay, sorry about the caps
[02:39] <Saik> is a linux antivirus program capable of cleaning WINDOWS viruses?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Saik: yep that's about all they do, scan for Windows viruses, which don't infect Linux
[02:39] <monster> crash1hd: I think if you have both hdds in, you can use DD to mirror the HD
[02:39] <sebsebseb> !antivirus |  Saik
[02:40] <mattgyver[L]> anyone setup jinzora on ubuntu?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> Saik: also the only true proper way to be sure malware is gone, is to  clean install the OS,  that it got installed on
[02:40] <monster> crash1hd: once you mirror the HD, you should be able to repartition with GParted
[02:40] <Saik> sebsebseb, I'm trying to clean windows through linux
[02:40] <sebsebseb> Saik: unless it didn't just infect the OS hmm
[02:40] <monster> crash1hd: follow?
[02:41] <crash1hd> monster: would that solve the mbr issue
[02:41] <monster> yes
[02:41] <keith> can anyone give a type either how to install xbuntu from a thumbdrive or just run xbuntu via a thumb drive but Im running an xp system right now.
[02:41] <Saik> sebsebseb, it's just in windows, for sure. I have seen this one before,but I am tying something new this time around
[02:41] <crash1hd> monster: ok will try that was going to use something like rsync
[02:41] <zelrikriando> hi
[02:41] <keith> can anyone help? either how to install xbuntu from a thumbdrive or just run xbuntu via a thumb drive but Im running an xp system right now.
[02:41] <zelrikriando> I updated firefox to 3.5 now I have weird fonts
[02:41] <monster> the steps would be...
[02:41] <crash1hd> monster: so its called dd or DD will google for more info :)
[02:41] <ibeekman> I have a large problem: I was adding myself to a new group from the command line and somehow it removed me from the admin group.
[02:41] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, u got it?
[02:41] <monster> fire up live cd with both Disk in
[02:42] <debian_d> Saik: why don't you install antivirus in windows?
[02:42] <monster> DD mirror the drives
[02:42] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, still workin on it :P
[02:42] <Saik> keith, no need to repeat yourself, we heard you the first time
[02:42] <NxTitle> it's pretty simple if you want to do it manually
[02:42] <crash1hd> monster: im in live cd now with both drives in
[02:42] <monster> then pull the one and set the new as the Primary disk and reparition
[02:42] <debian_d> !antivirus | Saik
[02:42] <Saik> debian_d, because the one I have has corrupted all the EXEs for anything remotely malware-removal
[02:42] <monster> yeah crash1hd just google or man dd
[02:42] <crash1hd> monster: thanks for the help :)
[02:42] <monster> sure
[02:42] <NxTitle> go to the link, click download now, then view the source. the original link should be in a javascript array with each character split up
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Saik: well you can  delete infected files and such using the Ubuntu Live CD,   when you got the Windows partition mounted,  and run some scanner on it,  but  should clean install  Windows really, if it's got malware on it
[02:43] <bucky> keith, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:43] <NxTitle> just put it through python, removing every occurrence of " ',' "
[02:43] <Saik> sebsebseb, tried that twice now
[02:43] <keith> bucky: thanks looking now
[02:43] <monster> anyone know how to fix disconnecting issues with RTL8187 Wireless Adapter
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Saik: you tried  what?
[02:43] <Saik> sebsebseb, one account works, the other doesn'r
[02:43] <monster> ?
[02:43] <debian_d> Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[02:43] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle, ya not sure how to do that :) ill wait for u :P
[02:43] <Saik> sebsebseb, I manually deleted most of it
[02:44] <NxTitle> lol, ok
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Saik: clean  install Windows is the only true way, to make sure all malware is gone
[02:44] <Saik> sebsebseb, but the anti-malware and the hosts file are still aparently corrupted, I can't fix the registry yet
[02:44] <LWhitson2> Ok, quick question.  I am installing a tar.gz program but want all users to access it.  Where do I put the unzipped files?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Saik: or  better yet,  replace Windows with Ubuntu?  :)
[02:44] <debian_d> what's H.P.D at right in the list of linux distribution? Can anyone tell? http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=52  "Page Hit Ranking" how is it assigned?
[02:44] <deviant-route> :~$ @ Saik: what AV you use in linux
[02:44] <Saik> sebsebseb, I'm trying to prevent having to do a full restore. and it's not my PC lol
[02:45] <debian_d> Saik: why do you use windows ?
[02:45] <Flannel> debian_d: Hits Per Day I believe
[02:45] <Saik> deviant-route, none atm, I was asking if it would work
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Saik: ok well  it's not really on topic for  this channal  so join ##windows
[02:45] <deviant-route> :~$ ok
[02:45] <Saik> ....
[02:45] <kfizz> Once I've ssh'd into a remote box, how do I copy files on that box to my local home directory? I'm sure it scp, but I can't figure it out?
[02:46] <LWhitson2> Can anyone here help a real linux noobie?
[02:46] <Saik> it's linux-related they'll just send me back here, so why can't you just answer a simple question?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Saik: well if nessarey I suggest educating the peron who's computer it is,  so you can clean install
[02:46] <debian_d> Flannel: how is it assigned ? hit that page( http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=52) per day??
[02:46] <Bluey> Saik - what's up?
[02:46] <deviant-route> :~$ i use avast for linux to scan my windows box
[02:46] <chetnick> which folders do i need to copy (existing Ubuntu)  to newly install Ubuntu in order to make GUI look the same (Window decorations, folders etc ...)?
[02:47] <debian_d> Flannel: hitting number this page ( http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=52)??
[02:47] <Saik> Bluey, windows has bravix (trojan/worm) and I'm trying to clean it on linux
[02:47] <mechdave> chetnick, copy your $HOME folder across and all settings should be reasonably similar if not exactly the same
[02:47] <kismet> hey there.. i have a laptop and there i usually can switch of my monitor with FN+F3 but it doesn't .. the backlight of my laptop is still on
[02:47] <debian_d> Flannel: hitting number of this page ( http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=52)  from ubuntu ??
[02:47] <Furythor> Any knowledge that does Logitech G15 keyboard and MX Revolution mice work in Ubuntu ?
[02:48] <Bluey> Saik - are you dual boot situation?
[02:48] <Saik> I'm asking is this possible?
[02:48] <chetnick> mechdave: i was thinking about that, but my home dir is huge .. thats why i was thinking about copying just files needed for that.
[02:48] <Saik> Bluey, no, I'm on the live CD. this isn't my pc
[02:48] <Bluey> no windows problems need to be fixed in windows
[02:49] <Bluey> if you know the offending file however, you could mount the disc, and remove from linux
[02:49] <bigdavejoker> is there a 64 bit version of ekiga or the uvcvideo drivers?
[02:49] <cremaster> i'm trying to set a custom user name for print jobs on CUPS how do i do it?
[02:49] <kfizz> Once I've ssh'd into a remote box, how do I copy files on that box to my local home directory? I'm sure it scp, but I can't figure it out?
[02:49] <Saik> Bluey, can't clean it in linux with the xp hard drive mounted?
[02:49] <Bluey> kifss pm ok?
[02:49] <deviant-route> :~$ @ Saik: try avast for linux
[02:49] <mechdave> chetnick, usually all the "dot" files are configs, ie if you copy every folder and file starting with a . that should work
[02:49] <Furythor> Saik, unfortunately no.
[02:50] <Bluey> Saik -- not that I know if -- if you know the ofending file name, you could mount it in linux and remove -
[02:50] <Gnea> !ies4linux
[02:51] <Furythor> That would be only shot at getting rd of virus
[02:51] <sebsebseb> IE to remove viruses what?
[02:51] <nathanmarck> IE will never remove viruses
[02:51] <Bluey> kfizz general format is scp <sourcefilenamegoeshere> Remotehost:///home/<username>/.  thats what I do
[02:51] <sebsebseb> normalley in  Windows,  IE is  to blame why malware got on there in the first place
[02:51] <nathanmarck> And since when does linux have a virus?!
[02:51] <Saik> Bluey, got a few, more exist.
[02:52] <mechdave> nathanmarck, they are out there
[02:52] <Gnea> !virus
[02:52] <Bluey> saik - there must be virus scanners that work in linux, but I wouldnt know...sorry
[02:52] <nathanmarck> Why do people make viruses
[02:52] <nathanmarck> What do they gain?
[02:52] <kerin> is there any way to alter what portion of the screen notify-osd draws to?
[02:52] <Saik> deviant-route, thx, I was looking at that actually :) someone has the same idea as me, I guess I'll try it :)
[02:52] <tjc_> Saik, clamav is one of the virus scanners that works under linux
[02:52] <xiong> fontmatrix doesn't seem to work!
[02:52] <Gnea> !info clamav
[02:53] <Saik> nathanmarck, annoying  poeple, stealing money
[02:53] <deviant-route> :~$ cool
[02:53] <kfizz> Bluey, is that the command even if you're logged in via ssh, or should I use the scp command without sshing in?
[02:53] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f4dbcfba8
[02:53] <Loy> no
[02:53] <Saik> tjc_, now why didn't I think of clam? thanks guys, I'll try these and see what happens
[02:53] <Gnea> nathanmarck: those who have been punked too much.
[02:53] <xiong> is there any alternative to fontmatrix, preferably one that works?
[02:53] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, that is the fastest I have EVER made a script, I think :P
[02:53] <Bluey> yes you don't need to be logged in via ssh
[02:54] <Loy> how can I use wine software?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Loy: install it
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Loy: open your .exe with it and  voila
[02:54] <NxTitle> Loy, is it installed?
[02:54] <Bluey> kfizz can we take to pm?
[02:54] <MaGicMaX> hey guys, i got this Checkgmail notifier installed and configured right, was just wondering how i can get it to start upon rebooting everytime.
[02:54] <Gnea> !wine | Loy
[02:54] <Loy> Yeah,i have done,
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Loy: it should add   to  the bottom of the applications menu
[02:54] <deviant-route> :~$ @ Loy: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:54] <Loy> I need wine to run my program
[02:55] <CrawfordComeaux> Is there any reason why I shouldn't install ubuntu enterprise cloud on desktop instead of server?
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Loy: and the hidden .wine folder in home, is where the fake  C drive and your Wine programs, will be
[02:55] <Gnea> Loy: it should show up in the wine menu once it's installed
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Loy: and if you remove  .wine  and  then  do something in Wine again, it will be like, you just installed it
[02:56] <kerin> MaGicMaX, system > preferences > settings
[02:56] <kerin> dsgd
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Loy: except the menu enteries from before will be left,  that's in another hidden folder   .config or .local  I think
[02:56] <kerin> sorry.  system > preferences > sessions
[02:56] <kerin> add your app and it'll run with gnome.
[02:56] <Loy> Yes ,Once I installed it ,it really showed ,but I didn't know the way to use it
[02:56] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle,  start = data.find("var link_enc=new Array('")+len("var link_enc=new
[02:56] <SuperMIguel>                                                                        ^
[02:56] <SuperMIguel> SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string
[02:56] <FloodBot2> SuperMIguel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <Loy> Thanks ,I will try it again
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Loy: you just open  your .exe in it and hopefuly it works,   not all programs are going to work,  or work properly,  you could configure stuff, but it's not easy, and you would have to know what your doing
[02:57] <MaGicMaX> kerin: the only "settings" i see under preferences is Qt 4 settings
[02:57] <MaGicMaX> hey guys, i got this Checkgmail notifier installed and configured right, was just wondering how i can get it to start upon rebooting everytime.
[02:57] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, crap, one sec then lol
[02:58] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: "<kerin> sorry.  system > preferences > sessions"
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Loy: also with enough RAM you can  run Windows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine
[02:58] <Loy> I am a chinese ,but I don't get a proper way to use it in chinese
[02:59] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: i dont have "sessions" in preferences either
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Loy: you can ask  in #winehq
[02:59] <Loy> Ha,thank you,
[02:59] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: 9.04 i386
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Loy: no problem, good luck
[02:59] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, it shouldn't do that, as every single string uses double quotes :S
[03:00] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: oops, it's called "Startup Applications" in Jaunty
[03:00] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, try http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7863c619
[03:01] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: ah ok, thanks, so i click add, then name it, whats the command though?
[03:01] <SuperMIguel> NxTitle,  nu
[03:01] <NxTitle> SuperMIguel, what?
[03:01] <Irishmanluke> alright someone ask my a simple question
[03:02] <nathanmarck> E: Type ‘For’ is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:02] <nathanmarck> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:02] <nathanmarck> HELP!!
[03:02] <nathanmarck> Lol
[03:02] <nathanmarck> Whats that mean?
[03:02] <bigdavejoker> is there a 64 bit version of the uvc driver would that make any difference?  I have a camera supported by the uvc driver but ekiga crashes when I try and open camera  it works with skype
[03:02] <Irishmanluke> idk
[03:02] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: How are you currently running the gmail notifier?
[03:02] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  nathanmarck
[03:02] <sebsebseb> !enter |  nathanmarck
[03:02] <bigdavejoker> in skpe I can't see the distant end unless I am full screen
[03:02] <Flannel> nathanmarck: You've got an entry in your sources.list that's not formatted propery.
[03:02] <Bluey> break time for bluey - back later.....
[03:02] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: is there more than one way of running it? i dont follow..
[03:03] <Irishmanluke> right I knew that
[03:03] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: You have a Programs menu entry, or...?
[03:03] <Dreamglider> how do i list all file extensions in a directory from therminal ?
[03:03] <Flannel> Dreamglider: all file extensions?
[03:03] <Irishmanluke> nathanmarck: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and git r done
[03:03] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: well its on my desktop, the icon, and its also in my menu entries under "internet"
[03:04] <Dreamglider> Flannel: yea i have a dei wite a lot of diffrent files, i need to seperate them and put them in seperate folders
[03:04] <Dreamglider> dir*
[03:04] <nathanmarck> Think i fixed it
[03:05] <nathanmarck> Yay i win!!!
[03:05] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: OK, right click on "Applications" menu, chose "Edit Menus", find the gmail notifier launcher, right click it, select "Properties", this should tell you the command.
[03:05] <nathanmarck> I fixededed it
[03:05] <Irishmanluke> nathanmarck: A+++
[03:05] <nathanmarck> Now i get a new error
[03:05] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: Sort of a roundabout way of discovering this, but it should work
[03:05] <nathanmarck> Its mocking me
[03:05] <Irishmanluke> wonderful
[03:06] <Irishmanluke> ok what is it
[03:06] <kerin> xikteny, i do that all the time.
[03:06] <nathanmarck> Dw it worked
[03:06] <nathanmarck> I still get my Wine
[03:06] <Flannel> nathanmarck: please slow down, don't use the enter key as punctuation.
[03:06] <kerin> is there any way to alter what portion of the screen notify-osd draws to?  to wit:  it draws in the vertical center of the screen, on the right side.  i'd like it to be near the top or bottom.
[03:06] <nathanmarck> Sorry i type then think i have a wierd mind
[03:06] <Irishmanluke> Flannel: no clever bot command for that message
[03:07] <sebsebseb> !enter >  Irishmanluke
[03:07] <Irishmanluke> oh nice
[03:07] <kismet> hey if i reboot my system it tells me "unclean shutdown" and check something.. and fails... and tells me that i have to manually fsck /dev/sda1 contains filesystem with errors, chekc force
[03:07] <Flannel> Irishmanluke: There is, but there's nothing beneficial about using the bot all the time
[03:07] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: ah, its "checkgmail" who figured :P
[03:07] <Irishmanluke> ah
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Flannel: heh
[03:07] <MaGicMaX> xikteny: thanks for your patience
[03:08] <xikteny> MaGicMaX: No problem
[03:08] <Irishmanluke> you could have used the | pipe instead
[03:08] <kismet> anyone has an idea what the problem could be?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Irishmanluke: true, but  then it woudn't have pm'd the message to you
[03:09] <kerin> kismet: are you restarting via the switch on your case or in the menu?
[03:09] <Irishmanluke> sebsebseb: right and then I wouldn't have had to close the window
[03:09] <kismet> with the top right menu kerin
[03:09] <Flannel> Irishmanluke: He was attempting to keep the noise down in here, which is something we all should be doing (current conversation included)
[03:09] <kerin> kismet, is /dev/sda1 your ubuntu partition?
[03:09] <Irishmanluke> Flannel: it was only two lines ok I'm done
[03:10] <kismet> kerin:  wait a min
[03:10] <kerin> kismet: sure.
[03:10] <kismet> kerin: sda1 is my / partition
[03:10] <kismet> i also got a /home partition
[03:11] <Irishmanluke> kismet: do you have a /boot partition as well
[03:11] <kerin> kismet: curious.  and the /home partition isn't getting scanned?
[03:11] <Lakobos> morning
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Flannel: pm'd  since  it  wasn't going to be used properly and  Irishmanluke  wanted to know what it was,   but  of course it  can be good to keep the noise down in here
[03:11] <Lakobos> does any one know how to use incron?
[03:11] <kismet> kerin:  Irishmanluke i dont have a boot partition... i just have 3 partitions / /home and swap
[03:12] <Irishmanluke> oh ok
[03:12] <mdwright> Is there a way to the tell the apt package manager I've compiled something from source so it doesn't attempt to install it as a dependency for something else
[03:12] <kismet> kerin Irishmanluke i have to tell that i resized my partiton a week ago... to use hibernation
[03:12] <aphlar_> hola
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !es |  aphlar_
[03:13] <aphlar_> hi
[03:13] <Irishmanluke> hai
[03:13] <dihi> Hey guys, in order to print on my universities network printers i need to add an argument to the print command telling it what user I am. I can install the printer with the search for printer function but i dont know how to tell the printer which user I am. Any help? thanks
[03:14] <kismet> kerin no idea?
[03:14] <SerialKiller> the sound doesnt come out of my laptop speakers by when i plug speakers in, the sound only goes thru the speakers
[03:15] <arand> kismet, first try to go into recovery mode (root console) from the boot menu and do "fsck /dev/sda1", then if that fails boot into a livecd and do the same (sudo fsck /dev/sda1) You may have to use the -f and -p options (force checking and automatic repair with no questions)
[03:15] <SerialKiller> also is there a way to imporve dvd playback??  it is like the tracking is out of adjustment on a vhs machine
[03:15] <kismet> arand: i did the command fsck
[03:15] <IdleOne> SerialKiller: the sound only comes out of the "plugged in speakers" and not the laptop speaker?
[03:16] <droolproof84> unmount the drive first kismet
[03:16] <kismet> and it asked me many time questions to fix something which i answered with yes
[03:16] <SerialKiller> idleone: yes
[03:16] <Lakobos> does icron need root privileges to work? i cant seem to run mine
[03:16] <Lakobos> incron*
[03:16] <Irishmanluke> aphlar_: did you come here for any particular reason?
[03:16] <IdleOne> SerialKiller: that is how it should be
[03:16] <crash1hd> does anyone know if I need more then just dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb ? to do what I am wanting to do (clone the drive)
[03:16] <dihi> Hey guys, in order to print on my universities network printers i need to add an argument to the print command telling it what user I am. I can install the printer with the search for printer function but i dont know how to tell the printer which user I am. Any help? thanks THe command I have to add is "-U username"
[03:16] <arand> kismet: ok, and did that give any errors, and where you able to boot afterwards?
[03:16] <xikteny> mdwright: you could use 'equivs' to create a fake package of the dependency... bit of a crude hack, though
[03:16] <Saik> deviant-route, so far so good. it found one I missed but knew was there
[03:16] <SerialKiller> Idleone: but when i unplgu the speakers no sound at all
[03:16] <kismet> no afterwards not...
[03:17] <kismet> but if i shutdown now
[03:17] <deviant-route> :~$ ok thats great
[03:17] <arand> kismet: so you ran fsck just now?
[03:17] <kismet> or the last two times it was so... that it was an unsafe shutdown again
[03:17] <mdwright> xikteny: Ew. Thanks. I haven't found a better solution. I feel like there should be one.
[03:17] <crash1hd> and or do I gpart before or after running DD?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> !cups |  dihi
[03:17] <arand> kismet: is this in a livecd?
[03:18] <kismet> arand: not now... i run it afer unclean shutdown... and it failed.. and i prompt in console and asked to run it manually
[03:18] <bigdavejoker> how do I test  the performance of my video card I belive I had the right drivers installed but I've been having some problems and I want to make sure they are not related to my video card
[03:18] <sebsebseb> dihi: maybe useless
[03:18] <kismet> now i am not on livecd
[03:18] <dihi> sebsebseb... yeah, i reckon
[03:18] <Irishmanluke> kismet: are you on deadcd?
[03:18] <xikteny> mdwright: seems like there should be a better way...
[03:19] <kismet> Irishmanluke: no ;) sorry my English is not the best... forgive me
[03:19] <Lakobos> anyone?
[03:19] <arand> kismet: I'd say try to run a livecd and do "sudo fsck -f -p /dev/sda1" from there, it may work better to do it from the "outside" so to speak.
[03:19] <jjneff> fceu keeps hanging on me ( ubuntu 64 bitUbuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) and then I can't kill the process as SUDO (even -9) any ideas?
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !patience | Lakobos
[03:20] <jjneff> the process is owned by (1) root
[03:20] <Lakobos> oh
[03:20] <Lakobos> ok
[03:20] <kismet> arand: okay i will try that .. thank you for your help... i'll be back ;)
[03:20] <arand> kismet: nothing wrong with your english, just Irishmanluke sense of humour ;)
[03:21] <kismet> arand:  i understand ... see you soon... hopefully
[03:21] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: check the perimissions on it
[03:21] <Bookman> someone had advised me to install wicd to manage my network settings.  The installation did not go well and now I cannot connect at all.  do I need to re-install Ubuntu from scratch?
[03:21] <SerialKiller> is dvd playback always just short of perfect in linux
[03:21] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: wait how are you trying to run it and what happens when you do?
[03:22] <Lakobos> Permissions on the script or incron?
[03:22] <jjneff> I can't kill the process and in System Monitor it shows as uninterruptible and waiting usb_kill_urb
[03:22] <SerialKiller> because i feel like i could update something and fix it
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !details |  SerialKiller
[03:22] <Lakobos> i was tring to run a script when a cdrom is detected
[03:22] <Lakobos> trying
[03:22] <Irishmanluke> ok
[03:22] <SerialKiller> it seems like the "tracking" is off when you watch a hvs tape
[03:22] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: but the icron daeomon is running?
[03:23] <Lakobos> ya
[03:23] <sebsebseb> !dvd |  SerialKiller
[03:23] <Lakobos> i used sudo to restart the deamon
[03:23] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  SerialKiller
[03:23] <SerialKiller> i did all that
[03:23] <sebsebseb> SerialKiller: by the way your name, maybe you should change that
[03:23] <SerialKiller> is that really necessary??
[03:24] <deviant-route> :~$ @bookman:no you can reinstall gnome network manager
[03:24] <SerialKiller> maybe you should change ur face
[03:24] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: ps aux | grep icron and see if it's running, sorry if you knew that but you're being unclear
[03:24] <Bookman> deviant-route: without a network connection?
[03:24] <SerialKiller> i need help not criticism
[03:24] <SerialKiller> you never saw the movie "hackers"
[03:24] <anachronik_>  /j #wacom
[03:24] <sebsebseb> !language |  SerialKiller
[03:24] <Lakobos> yup
[03:24] <Lakobos> its there
[03:24] <Irishmanluke> SerialKiller: that was a funny movie
[03:25] <deviant-route> :~$ you dont have any other system to connect to the internet
[03:25] <Irishmanluke> SerialKiller: was that the one with angelina jolie?
[03:25] <SerialKiller> !harrasment | sebsebseb
[03:25] <SerialKiller> yeah it was
[03:25] <Lakobos> my command for incrontab was "/dev/sr1 IN_MODIFY /home/xxx/Destop/xxx.sh" is it right?
[03:26] <anachronik_> lsexual_life | SerialKiller
[03:26] <anachronik_> !sexual_life | SerialKiller
[03:26] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: so you are sure the daemon is running? if so test the command on it's own I do not know incron but I've done alot of cronning
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !botabuse |  anachronik_ SerialKiller
[03:26] <Lakobos> yup
[03:26] <Lakobos> i coud grep the deamon
[03:26] <anachronik_> !apologising sebsebseb
[03:26] <Lakobos> could*
[03:26] <Berzerker> you grep that daemon/.
[03:26] <SerialKiller> the fact that you know a command for that makes you the one who need a "sexual life"
[03:26] <Berzerker> .*
[03:27] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: and the command you are trying to run works outside of incron?
[03:27] <anachronik_> wow, great bot
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !troll |  SerialKiller
[03:27] <anachronik_> boooo, trollll, booooo
[03:27] <Lakobos> err im not sure wat you mean
[03:27] <sebsebseb> SerialKiller: I  suggest getting  back on topic with your issue, or one of the ops might end up removing you
[03:27] <Lakobos> i was trying to  run a script when a device is plugged in
[03:28] <deviant-route> :~$ @bookman: use the live cd to go on the internet then download gnome network manager, and copy it to your file system
[03:28] <tritium> SerialKiller: and quickly, I might add
[03:28] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: this may sound like a dumb question but to be sure the script you are trying to run does run on it's own right?
[03:28] <Lakobos> yup it does
[03:29] <Bookman> deviant-route: is the gnome network manager not on the live cd?
[03:29] <Lakobos> i tried i manually and it works
[03:29] <cemens> tes;
[03:29] <nancyluc_> I have a headphone and mic set and can't get it to work.
[03:30] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[03:30] <deviant-route> :~$ not sure if the package is on the live cd
[03:30] <Bookman> deviant-route: I also have the dvd
[03:30] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: and after you entered in the command with incrontab it said that the incrobtab was successfully installed or something like that?
[03:30] <cryptobeacon> hi! is there a way to tag files like what tagbot do in mac? thanks.
[03:31] <Lakobos> yup
[03:31] <Lakobos> it said
[03:31] <ryan__> i'm running ubuntu as a guest OS in virtualbox, im trying to share a folder from the host OS (windows 7). i've selected the folder to share in the device menu but i'm not seeing it any where in ubuntu.
[03:31] <Lakobos> table updated
[03:31] <Lakobos> i i checked it with incrontab -l
[03:31] <Bookman> carling
[03:31] <Lakobos> and the value is there
[03:31] <tritium> !enter | Lakobos
[03:31] <SerialKiller> i am having issues with dvd playback quality
[03:32] <Lakobos> oops
[03:34] <sebsebseb> LordLandon: welcome back, and  that's better yeah :)
[03:34] <deviant-route> :~$ @bookman:try running the live cd or dvd to access the internet
[03:34] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: it seems like either the command is wrong or the filesystem event didn't happen
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Lordnikon:  hmm  I  message wrong one
[03:35] <kismet> Okay... i guess it works now.. i hope the next reboot it still works.. because it s** if a boot takes 7 min
[03:35] <Lakobos> if a device is attaced to the computer a file is created in /dev am i right?
[03:36] <Lordnikon> well lordnikon is black do you have something against african americans also??
[03:36] <Irishmanluke> generally
[03:37] <Lakobos> my command for icron was "/dev/sr1 IN_MODIFY /home/xxx/Desktop/xxx" so it it right then?
[03:37] <Lordnikon> does anyone else have issues with dvd playback wuality
[03:37] <Bookman> Lordnikon: No, I use my laptop as a portable dvd player all the time.
[03:38] <leaf-sheep> I use my portable dvd player as my laptop all times.
[03:38] <Lordnikon> bookman: i also have the problem that when i unplug my speakers no sound comes out of the laptop speakers
[03:38] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: I do not know, run dmesg | tail -f plug the device in and see what happens
[03:39] <Bookman> deviant-route: I did not have to run the live cd/dvd.  I just put the dvd in and one of the choices that popped up on the screen was to run the package manager.  I found the gnome network manager, installed, restarted and all is well.  Thanks for the help though, appreciated.
[03:40] <deviant-route> :~$ ok thats cool
[03:41] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: that is see what happens with that commands
[03:41] <Lakobos> hmm
[03:41] <Lakobos> i ran the command
[03:42] <Lakobos> some out put came out
[03:42] <Lakobos> then i plugged in the device
[03:42] <Lakobos> nothing happened
[03:42] <tritium> !enter | Lakobos
[03:43] <Lakobos> argghhh my habit of pressing enter T_T
[03:44] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: it seems like nothing is happening when you plug the device in.  Are you sure the device is mounting, what is the device btw?
[03:44] <Lakobos> a usb device with cdfs and fat partions
[03:45] <Lakobos> actaully its a thumb drive
[03:45] <edbian> What is the most efficient Desktop Enviroment?
[03:45] <jiohdi> edbian, I am told Xfce
[03:45] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: are you sure it's mounting? can you see the data on it?
[03:45] <NxTitle> LXDE, fluxbox, Xfce, JWM, your choice
[03:46] <NxTitle> edbian, LXDE, fluxbox, Xfce, JWM, icewm, your choice
[03:46] <mersault> Offtopic grammar question: "I would advise against adjusting one's jock strap shortly after handling hot peppers". Do I include the apostrophe between one and s?
[03:46] <jiohdi> edbian, I switched to Xfce because of low memory and it works very well
[03:46] <mersault> or is it like "its"
[03:46] <tritium> mersault: stop that
[03:46] <Lakobos> yup
[03:46] <Lakobos> i can even run a program from it
[03:46] <edbian> jiohdi: NxTitle  Thanks!
[03:46] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: I have no clue then
[03:46] <NxTitle> no problem
[03:46] <jiohdi> edbian, there are some oddities though
[03:46] <NxTitle> my personal favourite is LXDE
[03:47] <sebsebseb> !ot |  mersault
[03:47] <Irishmanluke> mersault: of course you include the apostrophe
[03:47] <Lakobos> or maybe you could advise me. i need ubuntu to autorun a script in my usb device and excute a java program
[03:48] <mersault> Irishmanluke: thanks! please return to your regularly scheduled programming now.
[03:48] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: no clue
[03:48] <Lakobos> ok then
[03:48] <tony99> hey can someone help me fix my grub bootlader
[03:48] <sebsebseb> tony99: what's the problem with it?
[03:48] <tony99> i have grub error 17 and have tried just about everything
[03:48] <sebsebseb> !grub |  tony99
[03:49] <sebsebseb> tony99:  Do you know what Grub Error 17 is
[03:49] <sebsebseb> ?
[03:49] <tony99> yes
[03:49] <sebsebseb> tony99: ok which one is it?
[03:49] <valros> does anyone know how to find and replace a newline in geany, if tried the usual
[03:49] <tony99> 17 : "Invalid device requested"
[03:49] <tony99> This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.
[03:50] <Lakobos> any one help? in configuring autorun in ubuntu. It seems that gnome can't detect the autorun script in my usb or cd
[03:50] <sebsebseb> tony99: device hmm  I guess it means hard disk or partition
[03:50] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: you could try this but it seems your way should work http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[03:50] <tony99> sebsebseb could you suggjest something i check or try
[03:51] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: I don't really know how to do this but you should be able to write a udev rule which runs a command when your drive is mounted
[03:51] <sebsebseb> tony99: probably not
[03:51] <sebsebseb> tony99:  you have Windows on there? that boots up ok?  ,but Ubuntu won't? or?
[03:52] <tony99> no i cant get into the menu at all
[03:52] <tony99> i need to boot a live cd
[03:52] <sebsebseb> tony99: have you  tried re installing Grub?
[03:52] <Lakobos> i tried once, but i failed, the script did not run
[03:52] <arooni-mobile___> im trying to do a backup... but i need to delete some files that i dont need in order to have enough space on backup drive.  i'm in the ubuntu live cd.  via nautilus i selected some files and hit delete.  i dont see them in the trash and they were 12 GB worth... and df -h and gparted doesnt show the used space go down... help?
[03:52] <tony99> its a stage 2 error
[03:53] <tony99> yes im pretty sure i tried it correctly and it didnt work
[03:53] <Lakobos> i tried udev before
[03:53] <tony99> i could try it again
[03:53] <sebsebseb> tony99: if nessarey you can use lilo instead of Grub
[03:53] <tony99> :(
[03:53] <Lakobos> but im not sure whether the the commands i inputed was right or wrong
[03:53] <sebsebseb> tony99: ,but  you can probably fix your issue
[03:53] <sebsebseb> tony99: Grub is in the MBR?
[03:54] <Irishmanluke> Lakobos: sorry I cannot help you
[03:54] <tony99> so this is what im doing"find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd2,0)
[03:55] <tony99> so i do root (hd2,0) correct
[03:55] <sebsebseb> tony99: hard disk  two,   your first partition on there,  since Grub starts on 0
[03:55] <Lakobos> its alright i'll try udev again
[03:55] <Lakobos> been doing it for 2 days
[03:55] <sebsebseb> tony99: uh wait no
[03:55] <sebsebseb> tony99: hard disk three?
[03:55] <tony99> yea
[03:55] <sebsebseb> hard disk three   and the first partition
[03:56] <sean> hello
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !hi | sean
[03:56] <Guest49722> crap
[03:56] <tony99> so ill do "root (hd2,0)" then "setup (hd0)" and that willl install it right
[03:56] <tony99> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:57] <sebsebseb> tony99: it either goes in the MBR,  or you put it in a partittion
[03:57] <aSt3raL> 1300 ppl in this channel
[03:57] <aSt3raL> are you kidding me?
[03:57] <Guest49722> hey guys, i need some help with pidgin
[03:57] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: sometimes just over 1400   however  thing is with this big  people number,  most of them  don't seem to even chat in here
[03:57] <tony99> i dont know where it is
[03:57] <sebsebseb> !details |  Guest49722
[03:57] <Guest49722> hey guys, i need some help with pidgin
[03:58] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: also a few bots, included in the people number,  plus  most of the  o   p  s
[03:58] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: or all of them
[03:58] <aSt3raL> yeah im just thinking back to when i first came in here and it was under 100
[03:58] <kazagistarr> !ask | Guest49722
[03:58] <Guest49722> i keep getting spam style messages
[03:58] <Guest49722> i dont know how to stop it
[03:59] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: a  little off topic here, but I wonder how many will be in here in  five years time
[03:59] <Guest49722> over 9000 people
[03:59] <madelefant> hi ya
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Guest49722: hopefuly yeah
[03:59] <Guest49722> hahaha
[03:59] <madelefant> theres like a lot of folks here
[03:59] <Guest49722> but seriously, can anyone help me
[03:59] <tony99> sebsebseb..
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Guest49722: Spam on MSN?
[04:00] <xikteny> Guest49722: Check package 'pidgin-privacy-please'. It's designed to stop annoying spam.
[04:00] <Guest49722> myspace
[04:00] <Guest49722> but its from people i know
[04:00] <Guest49722> also
[04:00] <sebsebseb> tony99: hang on
[04:00] <aSt3raL> sup madelefant
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Guest49722: yes it happens
[04:00] <aSt3raL> so what is ubuntu?
[04:01] <FirstSgt> for some reason my ubuntu desktop (home) will not connect to my office vpn server (ubuntu server).  But windows computers can get VPN connections to it fine, whats up with that?!
[04:01] <aSt3raL> and why should i use it?
[04:01] <Guest49722> its the best os evar
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Guest49722: and  usaully  from  accounts  of people that  don't know how to keep Windows secure enough
[04:01] <Guest49722> try it
[04:01] <Guest49722> oh
[04:01] <Guest49722> makes sense
[04:01] <kazagistarr> Guest49722: they might have been eaten by a virus
[04:01] <aSt3raL> os?
[04:01] <Guest49722> OPERATING SYSTEM
[04:01] <kazagistarr> !ubuntu
[04:01] <aSt3raL> evar?
[04:01] <drygrain> :(
[04:01] <Guest49722> EVAR
[04:01] <Guest49722> N00B
[04:01] <Guest49722> hahaha
[04:01] <FloodBot2> Guest49722: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <aSt3raL> why would they give it away for free?
[04:02] <FirstSgt> aSt3raL: both server and client
[04:02] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  aSt3raL
[04:02] <Guest49722> because they're people who love computers
[04:02] <drygrain> so i just plugged an ethernet cable from my ubuntu laptop to my winxp laptop. i have samba installed. how do i retrieve music and video files from my winxp laptop?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: that's as in freedom not price,  check out the articles in the philsophey section on gnu.org
[04:02] <aSt3raL> im actually using xchat on ubuntu right now
[04:02] <Guest49722> and want to make them better for society
[04:02] <Guest49722> me too
[04:02] <aSt3raL> i just wanted to see what that answer looked like
[04:02] <Guest49722> im not use to irc
[04:02] <drygrain> i am too
[04:03] <Guest49722> whos on window here?
[04:03] <Guest49722> or mac?
[04:03] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Guest49722
[04:03] <drygrain> not it
[04:03] <sebsebseb> !enter  |  Guest49722
[04:03] <Guest49722> obottu sucks. he is no fun
[04:03] <kazagistarr> it looks like a lot of standardized messages from bots, because it is asked often
[04:03] <kazagistarr> !fun
[04:04] <drygrain> :D
[04:04] <sebsebseb> tony99: ok still here?
[04:04] <drygrain> i downloaded every game in the synaptic package manager
[04:04] <tony99> yea
[04:04] <seanLX> hey guys
[04:04] <drygrain> so i just plugged an ethernet cable from my ubuntu laptop to my winxp laptop. i have samba installed. how do i retrieve music and video files from my winxp laptop?
[04:05] <seanLX> do you know how i can change my PC name
[04:05] <seanLX> ??
[04:05] <FirstSgt> so does anyone know what a ubuntu desktop will not connecto to a ubuntu server (when a windows box with the ubuntu server works)??
[04:05] <obsidieth> lol idk
[04:05] <Gnea> drygrain: is it a crossover cable?
[04:05] <drygrain> :x
[04:05] <drygrain> i think so
[04:05] <Gnea> so you don't know
[04:05] <drygrain> i stole it from a hotel room with free broadband
[04:05] <drygrain> :x
[04:05] <Gnea> ok, then it's a regular ethernet cable
[04:05] <Ebonhand> karma - you're doomed
[04:05] <Gnea> it won't work
[04:06] <drygrain> damn
[04:06] <drygrain> lol
[04:06] <drygrain> i'll go return it
[04:06] <seanLX> hello? anybody know how?
[04:06] <drygrain> i swear
[04:06] <Gnea> that'll learn ya :p
[04:06] <FloodBot2> drygrain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <kazagistarr> drygrain: look at the ends, put them side by side... are they the same?
[04:06] <tony99> seanLX...google it
[04:06] <drygrain> yes they are the same
[04:06] <seanLX> fine
[04:06] <sebsebseb> tony99: yeah that page looks alright
[04:06] <seanLX> be that why
[04:06] <seanLX> way*
[04:06] <sebsebseb> tony99: for Grub  hd  0,0  would be  the first partition on the first hard disk
[04:06] <kazagistarr> if the colors on the little wires inside match, it is a straight-through
[04:07] <Gnea> kazagistarr: it is?
[04:07] <tony99> i have followed that tut and it didnt work sebsebseb
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Gnea: you good at dealing with Grub issues?
[04:07] <drygrain> kazagistarr, yes they do
[04:07] <Gnea> sebsebseb: usually ask for the error # and google it
[04:07] <kazagistarr> Gnea: well, it COULD be rollover, but no-one uses that, and it does not help him anyways
[04:08] <Gnea> kazagistarr: he's still going to need another cable, and a switch
[04:08] <sebsebseb> tony99  maybe Gnea or someone can help you
[04:08] <tony99> iv tried alot of stuff from google
[04:08] <Gnea> !grub
[04:08] <kazagistarr> Gnea: or just buy a crossover or, P2P cable, as it is often called
[04:09] <Gnea> kazagistarr: clearly, he isn't willing to buy anything at this point
[04:09] <sebsebseb> tony99: repeate your issue with the forum link, that could help
[04:09] <seanLX> is there any regular chat rooms for ubuntu users, since everyone here is stuck up
[04:09] <drygrain> the two computers are on the same wireless network. could i transfer files over that, and use the ethernet cable to connect one of them to the router to increase transmission speed?
[04:09] <kazagistarr> touche...
[04:09] <Flannel> seanLX: This channel is for support, for chatting, we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:09] <seanLX> thanks
[04:09] <Flannel> !hostname | seanLX
[04:09] <seanLX> and i know its support, im not illiterate
[04:09] <kazagistarr> drygrain: actually, you can connect them to each other directly via wireless in an ad-hoc network
[04:09] <icarus> How to make an Ethernet Cat5e Cable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6cjJS5y1I
[04:09] <Flannel> tony99: When helping, please be helpful.  "google it" is not appropraite.
[04:10] <drygrain> yes but the wireless is slow :)
[04:10] <Gnea> icarus: lol, learned how to do that in A+ class
[04:10] <kazagistarr> drygrain: yes, but that would be your best solution, unless you can get some new cables
[04:11] <icarus> Gnea, sorry just trying to help
[04:11] <drygrain> theres no way do transfer files directly over the ethernet cable?
[04:11] <tony99> Gnea...would you mind kinda acting like my "mentor" in a way i guess..from a little bit of searching trying one thing you sugjest at a time....then of course i would have to reboot my computer to test with each attempt
[04:11] <drygrain> shucks
[04:12] <drygrain> thanks anyway guys, i'm sure i'll have more questions soon
[04:12] <drygrain> im on day 4 of ubuntu w/no win partition
[04:12] <drygrain> back to idling
[04:12] <konner> can someone please help me with Wine? im trying to install World of Warcraft but it wont open Installer.exe
[04:12] <sebsebseb> konner: did you right click on it and say open with Wine?
[04:13] <konner> Yes sir.
[04:13] <Flannel> konner: Have you tried the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:13] <konner> I did but thats for using the 5 CDs.
[04:13] <icarus> konner, wine is also know as the seventh ring in hell
[04:13] <konner> Im using the Wrath of the lich king DVD
[04:13] <otg> trsayid
[04:13] <otg> xsdogydx
[04:13] <otg> fpsdgorat
[04:13] <otg> soadp vds
[04:13] <otg> diosiyosoatsad
[04:13] <FloodBot2> otg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <otg> dsioaptpjza
[04:14] <kazagistarr> drygrain: if you have nothing better to do, why NOT transfer over wireless? its not THAT slow...
[04:14] <icarus> otg, what?
[04:14] <Gnea> !english | otg
[04:14] <Flannel> konner: I believe the "burning crusade" instructions will work for RotLK
[04:14] <Gnea> tony99: just explain the problem, please
[04:14] <sebsebseb> icarus: that just looked like flood to me
[04:15] <konner> ah i see what the problem is.
[04:15] <icarus> care to tell?
[04:15] <Caforinga> The wifi internet arrives in my desktop computer and I wanted the internet arrived in my notebook through 1 cable network, someone i know to configure?
[04:15] <Flannel> !ics | Caforinga
[04:15] <konner> It says i have no permissions to copy the files from the disc to a directory.
[04:15] <konner> so its not running the file.
[04:16] <konner> the DVD is my only chance since downloading 8 GB of stuff takes quite a while >_>
[04:17] <CUJO> hi everyone, I need some help. I might be having some problems with my yahoo account in pidgin... it just doesn't work.... can anybody help me?
[04:17] <sebsebseb> !yahoo |  CUJO
[04:17] <_saber> hey guys, i've just installed UNR on a friend's aspire one, everything's working fine and all, except the SD reader. It seems it just don't want to read my SD ;/
[04:17] <tony99> Gnea i cant think of any other way to describe besides getting this error "17 : "Invalid device requested"
[04:17] <tony99> This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors." the error is listed under stage 2.....and pretty much i just get stuck at a black screen with the menu never loading
[04:17] <sebsebseb> CUJO: I think you can upgrade Pidgin and then Yahoo is fine
[04:17] <sebsebseb> CUJO: that factoid is a bit old now
[04:17] <Gnea> tony99: okay, can you boot the system with a livecd?
[04:18] <tony99> yes Gnea
[04:18] <dustan> hey guys why is it that when my laptop goes idle for a long period of time when i get back on i cant see my cursor
[04:18] <Gnea> tony99: okay, have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[04:19] <Gnea> dustan: because the resource has been stolen and not given back. check your power-saving options and turn off hibernation
[04:20] <dustan> hibernation is turned off
[04:20] <tony99> Gnea i dont have any of those kinds of settings in my bios "the user mode or lba or anything
[04:20] <Gnea> what about sleep-mode?
[04:20] <zcat[1]> Trying to figure out how to use kiwix as a cd browser as on OpenDisc. Anyone know of a howto that isn't in French?
[04:20] <konner> when i try running wine Installer.exe it says wine: could not load L"D://Installer.exe": Module not found
[04:20] <CUJO> thank you all
[04:20] <FeLonG> help
[04:20] <Gnea> tony99: keep going...
[04:21] <FeLonG> I am haiving the problem
[04:21] <sebsebseb> konner: you can also get Wine help in #winehq
[04:21] <FeLonG> when i inserted the headphone it mute the speaker in windows
[04:21] <tony99> Gnea what do you mean keep going
[04:21] <Gnea> tony99: there are 11 pages there, you only read the first one. lots of different solutions.
[04:21] <xikteny> konner: Look like that DVD has some weird format/permissions... check http://www.sysadminwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_install_and_configure_World_of_Warcraft_in_Ubuntu_9.04
[04:22] <dustan> yeah sleep mode is turned on shut that off too?
[04:22] <Gnea> dustan: yes
[04:22] <FeLonG> can you guys help me?
[04:22] <generic> you know that little volume thing that pops up when u press the volume keys?
[04:22] <FeLonG> my problem is when i inserted the headphone it mute the speaker in windows ..
[04:22] <dustan> ok thanks
[04:22] <FeLonG> please private me
[04:22] <tony99> Gnea...the solution is post #1
[04:22] <generic> how can i configure that? its controling the wrong mixer
[04:22] <aSt3raL> anyone good with ubuntu on arm cpus?
[04:23] <Gnea> tony99: oh, it's working now?
[04:23] <tony99> no
[04:23] <Gnea> tony99: take another look... there are many solutions there.
[04:23] <tony99> o
[04:24] <FeLonG> hello guts anyone can help me in resolving the sound related issue
[04:24] <FeLonG> :D
[04:24] <FeLonG> ?
[04:25] <FeLonG> when i inserted the headphone it mute the speaker in windows but not in ubuntu
[04:25] <dustan> another thing i installed ubuntu on my desktop after cause i liked it on my laptop well when it boots i get an error 22 and it wont load anything i tried reinstalling and that did nothing what could be the problem
[04:26] <konner> xikteny that is exactly what i need but when it says (replace /dev/scd0 with your cdrom) i do that and i get a error saying "mount: special device /media/cdrom0 is not a block device"
[04:27] <FeLonG> somebody help me
[04:27] <dustan> sorry it was error 21
[04:28] <xikteny> konner: yes you need the actual /dev file of the drive. run 'mount | grep cdrom' to see what it is
[04:29] <miguelonnnn> IHi please is there anybody there?
[04:29] <sebsebseb> miguelonnnn: no
[04:29] <FeLonG> somebody help me
[04:29] <FeLonG> :D
[04:29] <sebsebseb> miguelonnnn: no one is here
[04:29] <tony99> Gnea linux is on my sdc drive....what would happen if i unplugged sda and sdb then got ubuntu/grub fully working then put the other drives back in
[04:30] <sebsebseb> !anyone  |  miguelonnnn
[04:31] <FeLonG> help me >>when i inserted the headphone it mute the speaker in windows but its not in ubuntu
[04:31] <miguelonnnn> haha xd
[04:31] <konner> Hm. i figured it out... but i still get the Module not found error
[04:31] <sebsebseb> miguelonnnn: 1297   including a few bots, in this room
[04:31] <miguelonnnn> ok ok
[04:31] <miguelonnnn> well i'll ask
[04:31] <sebsebseb> miguelonnnn: so yes people are here
[04:32] <miguelonnnn> i know any dir has . and .. hardlinks
[04:32] <miguelonnnn> i've tried to remove them and it's impossible being root
[04:32] <tony99> whens grub 2 come out
[04:32] <miguelonnnn> sbdy told me that's cause linux fs doesn't let you remove them, they are special hardlinks
[04:32] <sebsebseb> !patience |  FeLonG
[04:32] <sebsebseb> tony99: it already is
[04:33] <FeLonG> thanks
[04:33] <FeLonG> sorry
[04:33] <tony99> the full version sebsebseb
[04:33] <sebsebseb> tony99: yep
[04:33] <FeLonG> i tried that but none solution worked
[04:33] <miguelonnnn> i wanna know what's special about them. I mean, i know they are important, i should remove them, but why rm -rf / works and rm -r .. not?
[04:33] <FeLonG> :D
[04:33] <arand> tony99: it's the default for the next ubuntu release 9.10
[04:33] <tony99> o i thought it was beta
[04:33] <_CUJO_> well, I gotta go now.. thanks for helping me ppl...
[04:34] <sebsebseb> miguelonnnn: the remove / command?
[04:34] <miguelonnnn> and don't tell me that's because you cannot remove the dir you are in , cause do the following: get to a dir, and type the whole route to the dir to rm -r , then pwd, it gets removed and you get error printing pwd cause it doesn't exist. So you can actually remove folders while you're accessing them
[04:34] <arand> tony99: it is, kind of, but more like a google beta, which lasts for decades...
[04:35] <konner> xikteny i found it but im still getting Module not found.
[04:35] <miguelonnnn> yeah sebseb, you can make rm -rf / being root
[04:35] <sebsebseb> miguelonnnn: danger don't remove /
[04:35] <miguelonnnn> of course you'll crash the system
[04:35] <sebsebseb> !danager
[04:35] <miguelonnnn> yeah i know
[04:35] <sebsebseb> !danger
[04:35] <miguelonnnn> but why ubuntu lets you kill / and not any simple . or .. hardlink in any folder?
[04:36] <SuperMIguel> whats the name of the bluethooth manager that debian uses?
[04:36] <miguelonnnn> duno sry
[04:37] <asdfasdf> #django
[04:37] <xikteny> konner: I've PMd you...
[04:38] <di||itante> SuperMIguel: bluetooth - Bluetooth support
[04:38] <di||itante> bluez - Bluetooth tools and daemons
[04:38] <Gnea> miguelonnnn: please do not advocate the usage of that command in here again.
[04:39] <tony99>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:39] <tony99> /dev/sdc1               1        3579    28748286   83  Linux
[04:39] <tony99> /dev/sdc2            3580        3738     1277167+   5  Extended
[04:39] <tony99> /dev/sdc5            3580        3738     1277136   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:39] <FloodBot2> tony99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:39] <tony99> what do i boot to sdc1?
[04:40] <Gnea> tony99: won't matter since /etc/fstab carries the UUID's
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Gnea: well  he didn't advertise exactly, but he did want to do something odd as root,  and then mentions the command
[04:40] <Gnea> sebsebseb: it was typed in the channel, it was therefore advertised.
[04:40] <SuperMIguel> di||itante, any idea how to start it from a terminal?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Gnea: ah ok
[04:41] <tony99> Gnea can i comment out the uuid and put root(x,x)
[04:41] <Gnea> tony99: it doesn't work like that. fstab and grub are mutually exclusive of each other. if you comment it out, you might as well just reinstall.
[04:41] <tony99> how do i reinstall it then
[04:41] <tony99> the whole os?
[04:42] <tony99> iv tried the whole os before lol
[04:43] <Dayofswords> 1 month left...
[04:43] <FirstSgt> Dayofswords: till what?
[04:43] <Dayofswords> 9.10
[04:43] <sebsebseb> FirstSgt: I was going to put that
[04:43] <kamen> does anyone know how to update from hardy without internet?
[04:44] <tony99> i guess this is a good trubleshooting thing to know....if i completely reinstalled ubuntu and grub still doesnt work...what should i do
[04:44] <FirstSgt> damn, forgot to resume screen session before startting irssi :(
[04:44] <FirstSgt> brb....
[04:44] <Gnea> tony99: go through those 11 pages and try the different things suggested that have worked for other people? or did you make it through those?
[04:44] <Dayofswords> kmen, if you dont have internet... how are you here?
[04:44] <jiohdi> tony, if it still does not work then either you have a corrupted version of the software or your hardware is damaged
[04:45] <mechdave> tony99, check to make sure your hard drives are still in order... I have a BIOS that will re arrange the boot up sequence at seemingly random intervals
[04:45] <sebsebseb> Dayofswords:  FiReSTaRT no  9.10 final is released at the end of October  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[04:45] <jiohdi> tony, there really is no other option
[04:45] <lstarnes> kamen: you could download the alternate CD for 8.10 then use that to upgrade
[04:45] <Dayofswords> ok
[04:45] <lstarnes> kamen: you can then use the 9.04 alternate CD to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[04:45] <tony99> mechdave will "sudo fdisk -l" show me if there in order
[04:45] <tony99> cuz according to that they are
[04:45] <Gnea> jiohdi: I doubt that. it's usually a configuration error.
[04:46] <jiohdi> gnea, he said if he reinstalls
[04:46] <sebsebseb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[04:46] <Gnea> jiohdi: and if his system configuration never changed...
[04:46] <tony99> there is nothing on my ubuntu drive but ubuntu...no data
[04:46] <mechdave> tony99, if BIOS changes the boot order sometimes grub will throw a error 17 or 18
[04:46] <optical> Hey all I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 to a partition but when i boot off the HDD it says GRUB loading, please wait..  Error 17
[04:46] <optical> what gives
[04:47] <jiohdi> gnea, if you reinstall from scratch and it does not work... then either the software used to reinstall is corrupt or the hardware is damaged, what else?
[04:47] <Gnea> tony99: also, like the post says, check your devices.map file
[04:47] <Dayofswords> at least 9.10 is coming out soon
[04:47] <kamen> when?
[04:47] <optical> tony99:  Let me guess,  Error fucking 17 as well right?
[04:47] <lstarnes> kamen: october
[04:47] <sebsebseb> !release |  Dayofswords
[04:47] <Gnea> jiohdi: the way the bios detects the hard drive could be incorrect
[04:47] <optical> whats with this Error 17 crap
[04:47] <mechdave> optical, language please
[04:47] <tony99> (hd0)	/dev/sda
[04:47] <tony99> (hd1)	/dev/sdb
[04:47] <tony99> (hd2)	/dev/sdc
[04:47] <tony99> thats correct
[04:47] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  optical
[04:48] <tony99> optical yes y you have the solution
[04:48] <Dayofswords> *sigh* i know that
[04:48] <jiohdi> gnea, that would not make a grub error...would it?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  tony99
[04:48] <Gnea> tony99: can you pastebin your menu.lst?
[04:48] <tony99> sry
[04:48] <Dayofswords> just saying, soon
[04:48] <optical> tony99: no I don't have the solution but i agree this is bull-crap
[04:48] <Gnea> jiohdi: it's #17, so yes, it would.
[04:48] <optical> im having the same problem
[04:48] <sebsebseb> !language |  optical
[04:48] <optical> sorry
[04:48] <lstarnes> optical: it means that the partion being selected could not be mounter properly
[04:48] <lstarnes> *mounted
[04:48] <Gnea> optical: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[04:48] <mechdave> tony99, so make sure BIOS has /dev/sda as the first boot drive
[04:49] <optical> lstarnes: well i made all the partitions through the ubuntu installer
[04:49] <lstarnes> optical: it usually means that the partition exists but GRUB doesn't recognize its format
[04:49] <tony99> http://pastebin.com/m195a926d
[04:49] <tony99> mechdave i dont have an option like that
[04:49] <Gnea> tony99: menu.lst?
[04:49] <lstarnes> optical: you may need to manually edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst through the livecd to change the selected partition
[04:50] <optical> lstarnes: hrm, what do I change it to though?
[04:50] <tony99> basically the only order i can control is "hard drisk "c" "floppy" and "cd drive" and i can change those up
[04:50] <mechdave> tony99, what computer you running?
[04:50] <tony99> its like from 04 or 05
[04:50] <tony99> dell
[04:50] <Gnea> tony99: what's the model #?
[04:51] <lstarnes> optical: it depends on which partition and hard disk has ubuntu, and how grub detects it
[04:51] <mechdave> tony99, Ok make sure that c: is selected. Have you had the hard drives removed from the case?
[04:51] <tony99> http://pastebin.com/m79d2a82a Gnea
[04:51] <wacomalt> hiho
[04:51] <tony99> its a poweredge 400sc
[04:52] <gr8expectations> silly question o wise ones, but my touchpad is really sesitive after installing ubuntu, to the point it screws up typing all the time
[04:52] <tony99> i even updated the bios.....but that didnt give me any extra options
[04:52] <gr8expectations> i can disable it as it is now, but it is highly annoying to do so
[04:52] <tony99> mechdave like did i remove any from the tower?
[04:52] <gr8expectations> is there a way to adjust sensitivity?
[04:52] <tony99> yea i think
[04:53] <Gnea> tony99: i'm guessing you have xp on the first drive? will grub boot it?
[04:53] <mechdave> tony99, yeah
[04:53] <CyberKitsune_> isight-firmware-tools is like, broken.
[04:53] <wacomalt> So I installed ubuntu on a flash drive (not live, actually installed TO the drive from a CD) I would like to be able to move between two computers, each with different video cards. If I install the proprietary drivers for both, will it automatically switch to the one it finds?
[04:53] <abb> Is this the proper IRC channel for Karmic (beta) questions? If not, could someone kindly direct me to the appropriate place?
[04:53] <lstarnes> abb: #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <sebsebseb> !karmic | abb
[04:53] <tony99> no Gnea...the grub 17 error leaves me stuck at a black screen right b4 the menu option or even command line interface
[04:53] <sebsebseb> abb: it's still alpha by the way
[04:54] <abb> lstarnes, sebsebseb, ubottu: thanks
[04:54] <lstarnes> abb: this channel (#ubuntu) will become the appropriate channel following the final release of karmic in october
[04:54] <optical> lstarnes: well im not sure what im supposed to do??
[04:54] <sebsebseb> !thanks | abb
[04:54] <Gnea> tony99: okay, because it looks like you have 3 hard drives installed - is that correct?
[04:54] <tony99> mechdave yes iv taken them out and put them back in the same spot
[04:54] <tony99> yes
[04:54] <abb> lol
[04:54] <lstarnes> optical: are you currently using the livecd?
[04:54] <tony99> sdb is just a data drive
[04:55] <ReaPQ> hi everybody !
[04:55] <Gnea> tony99: well, that's irrelevent - do you have HDD2 set as your primary boot hard drive?
[04:55] <wacomalt> can ubuntu deal with me switching video cards frequently? Between an ATI card and an Nvidia card.
[04:55] <wacomalt> need it to detect at boot which one to use
[04:55] <CyberKitsune_> Hello everyone, I installed isight-firware-tools, and set it to the right path when prompted, but on it's setting up stage, I got:dpkg: error processing isight-firmware-tools (--configure):
[04:55] <CyberKitsune_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 134
[04:56] <mechdave> tony99, Ok usually when that happens to me I have a drive on an incorrect cable somewhere. I know it isn't for your machine but it will give you the general idea about what to do --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[04:56] <tony99> hd2 as in the 3rd hdd?if your askin if thats the way its set in my bios...i dont have that option...doesnt the mbr of sda bring it to sdc
[04:56] <tony99> gnea*
[04:56] <gr8expectations> no one encounterd this overly sensitive touchpad issue I am dealing with?
[04:56] <ReaPQ> i wanna to know if steam (client for online games) work with ubuntuor if there are a vertion for ubuntu
[04:57] <Gnea> tony99: the MBR of SDA should have the NTLOADER for XP, while the MBR of SDC should be where grub resides.
[04:57] <optical> lstarnes:  yes, currently using live disk
[04:57] <tony99> honestly i dont know what they have or how to check
[04:57] <wacomalt> can I have both ATI and nVidia drivers instaled and have my USB drive install use the right onertup? at sta
[04:57] <optical> well i will reboot into it right now
[04:57] <optical> one second
[04:57] <tony99> all i know is that grub used to work for me but not anymore
[04:57] <optical> tony99 this is brutal isnt it
[04:58] <optical> i thought ubuntu was making strides towards "usability" but it doesnt even work after installing off their official image
[04:58] <lstarnes> optical, tony99: there may be some useful information in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup,%20Repairing%20and%20Reinstalling%20GRUB
[04:58] <Lpp> I got a question
[04:59] <Lpp> How can I get Xubuntu to recognize my iPod Touch?
[04:59] <tony99> aahha...iv been using hd0
[04:59] <tony99> 6. Type "setup (hd0,3)". This is key. Other instructions say to use "(hd0)", and that's fine if you want to write GRUB to the MBR. If you want to write it to your linux root partition, then you want the number after the comma, such as "(hd0,3)".
[05:00] <Gnea> tony99: right, setup (hd2) should be used
[05:00] <tony99> should i try not putting it on the mbr
[05:00] <tony99> k
[05:00] <lstarnes> tony99: you will need to change the (hd0,3) according to which disk and partition is being used
[05:00] <tony99> im going to signoff and try that...ill be back to post the results in about 7min
[05:00] <tony99> lstarnes yes of course
[05:01]  * Gnea is heading to bed 
[05:03] <Newbuntu2> hello! Where do I put a one-line command that should be executed when the system boots?
[05:04] <dverweire>   /etc/rc.local might work
[05:04] <lstarnes> Newbuntu2: either in /etc/rc.local before the exit command (if it needs to run as root)
[05:04] <miguelonnnn> please could you tell me what i asked before? i repeat in case you didn't read: i know . and .. are hardlinks, but why i can't remove them as root? i 've been told they are special hardlinks cause unix filesys needs them, but what makes them special ? wheres in the system files it's that written?
[05:04] <lstarnes> Newbuntu2: or in your crontab if needs to run as your user
[05:04] <lstarnes> Newbuntu2: you can access the crontab file with crontab -e
[05:07] <optical> lstarnes:  i am booted ito the livecd now
[05:07] <optical> into
[05:08] <tony99> hey it didnt work
[05:08] <tony99> :(
[05:08] <dverweire> miguelonnnn: i am not a filesystem developer take what i'm about to say with a grain of salt. I believe that '.' is a reference to the directory you are currently in and '..' is a reference to the directory that contains '.'. You can't delete '.' because you must be in that directory in order to be able to reference it as such, thus you have a lock on the directory.
[05:09] <lstarnes> optical: the typical process for repairing grub is a bit long, but not very difficult.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup,%20Repairing%20and%20Reinstalling%20GRUB both have instructions useful for repairing grub
[05:09] <lstarnes> optical: also, are you using ext4, or a different filesystem?
[05:09] <optical> ext3
[05:09] <optical> should i use ext4 ?
[05:09] <lstarnes> optical: ext3 works
[05:10] <tony99> lstarnes was i supposed to do setup (hd2) or add a partition in there also
[05:10] <anachronik_> ede
[05:10] <optical> hello i am gparted
[05:10] <optical> i am looking at my system
[05:11] <tony99> optical when did u start getting the error
[05:11] <optical> /dev/sdb3 is the boot drive
[05:11] <optical> tony99: fresh install for me
[05:11] <lstarnes> optical: then it would probably be (hd1,2)
[05:11] <tony99> well good luck iv had this error since june
[05:11] <optical> /dev/sdb1 = windows , /dev/sdb2 = swap /dev/sdb3 = ext3
[05:11] <optical> tony99: frig??
[05:11] <tony99> i dont know what frig means but i wasnt jokeing
[05:11] <optical> lstarnes: do I just edit the grub.conf or do i have to reinstall grub somehow too
[05:12] <lstarnes> optical: usually editing the menu.lst is sufficient
[05:12] <tony99> i see ubuntu comes with a rdc program
[05:12] <tony99> is this only i client or can someone connect to me
[05:13] <tony99> do i need server software
[05:13] <tony99> lstarnes do u no
[05:13] <lstarnes> tony99: I don;t
[05:14] <lstarnes> tony99: I think it may just be a client
[05:14] <optical> eek, i dont have a menu.lst in /boot
[05:14] <optical> where is it supposed to be
[05:14] <lstarnes> optical: what about /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:14] <optical> no grub folder
[05:14] <lstarnes> optical: do you have a grub.conf under /boot?
[05:15] <optical> nope
[05:15] <lstarnes>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup,%20Repairing%20and%20Reinstalling%20GRUB
[05:15] <lstarnes> oops
[05:15] <optical> just like config-something-generic, system.map, etc
[05:15] <lstarnes> accidental copy-paste
[05:15] <lstarnes> optical: in that case you may need to reinstall grub
[05:16] <optical> but i didnt want to install a boot loader even, i just wanted to boot off that HD when i choose so in bios
[05:16] <optical> otherwise vista will probably break
[05:16] <optical> urghhghgh
[05:16] <lstarnes> optical: I think the vista bootloader can be chainloaded by grub
[05:16] <lstarnes> optical: vista's bootloader can also be configured to load grub
[05:20] <miguelonnnn> dverweire, hi thanks for answer :) i don't know what you mean when you say i must be in the directory and thus it's locked
[05:21] <miguelonnnn> i've succesfully removed files while i'm in them. For example, i mkdir ~/testdir && cd ~/testdir && rm -r ~/testdir works well, but 2 first commands && rm -r . won't work being root
[05:23] <Sp0tter> which synaptic package contains the opengl headers?
[05:23] <jrgp> http://dokj.wordpress.com/
[05:24] <angel> I have 3 wireless Access points in my network which are connected to a router(DHCP enabled) and the DHCP setting in each access point is disabled and they are serving an IP range, but sometimes one of the access points conflict the IP , why this happen?
[05:24] <lstarnes> Sp0tter: maybe libglut-dev or one of the packages that provides it
[05:24] <shaun_> hey, guys hows it going
[05:24] <lstarnes> Sp0tter: or libglu-dev
[05:24] <Sp0tter> ok
[05:24] <lstarnes> Sp0tter: there's also libgl-dev
[05:25] <lstarnes> Sp0tter: they're virtual packages that are provided by other packages
[05:25] <hotelmotel> angel: all ap are on same subnet?
[05:25] <Sp0tter> hmm
[05:25] <Bookman> Is there a gui mount utility for an iso file.  Maybe a Nautilus add-on?
[05:25] <shaun_> i have a question, One of the users on my server (who happens to be the person providing the colo for free) runs steam halflife server under root, ive told him many of times and killed his processes but continues to run as root
[05:26] <angel> hotelmotel_ yeah
[05:26] <ultrasteeloid> Does anyone know the default save path for scummvm
[05:26] <shaun_> i was woundering if there was a way that would prevent him from running steam under root
[05:26] <hotelmotel> angel: all have unique IP addresses and mac addresses too
[05:26] <shaun_> give some type of error message that steam cannot be run under root
[05:26] <lstarnes> shaun_: you could revoke his sudo/su access
[05:26] <Sp0tter> ok got it, thanks
[05:27] <shaun_> well i dont want to piss him off hes hosting my server for free : /
[05:27] <angel> hotelmotel: yeah they have unique ip address and Mac
[05:27] <lstarnes> shaun_: if he's hosting it, then you should talk to him about it and explain that it decreases both his security and yours
[05:27] <Bookman> shaun_: you must be making him angry by killing his process already.
[05:27] <hotelmotel> angel: weird indeed
[05:27] <angel> hotelmotel: ofcourse all AP are using one channel e.g:6
[05:27] <Gouda> WHy the hell would you run it under root?
[05:28] <rig> I installed a copy of Ubuntu 8.04 and after the ubuntu loading screen i get kicked to command line screen that says "Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, divices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev  ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/(long string of characters) does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[05:28] <shaun_> he never responds to my messages
[05:28] <hotelmotel> angel: is that because you are using WDS ?
[05:28] <shaun_> so he is ignoring me pretty much
[05:28] <shaun_> : /
[05:28] <angel> hotelmotel: what is WDS?
[05:28] <Bookman> shaun_: take away root.  He will answer.
[05:28] <shaun_> he will unplug
[05:28] <hotelmotel> angel: nevermind, that answers that. its wireless distribution service
[05:28] <Bookman> rock meet hardplace
[05:29] <angel> hotelmotel: yes its wireless distribution service
[05:29] <shaun_> Bookman, i would rather go about it the discrete way if you know what i mean
[05:29] <hotelmotel> angel: ok, that makes sense.
[05:29] <lstarnes> shaun_: is it able to run properly without root?
[05:30] <Bookman> shaun_: Yes, I understand.
[05:30] <shaun_> yeah it is , unless he messed his permissions up by installing as root
[05:30] <angel> hotelmotel: what do I need to do to resolve this problem?
[05:30] <lstarnes> shaun_: some systems don't allow binding to ports below 1024 without root
[05:30] <shaun_> hes pretty low at the data center he deals with webpages and stuff
[05:31] <hotelmotel> angel: are the static IP address in the same range as the DHCP range?
[05:32] <shaun_> I don't recall what program i've ran that refused to run as root. Thought it would be possible to assign some permissions of some kind
[05:32] <shaun_> ;/
[05:32] <tony99> does anyone know where i can get a cheap kvm over ip
[05:32] <tony99> so i can get a friend to fix my pc
[05:32] <angel> hotelmotel: yeah they are the same range: AP1:192.168.1.100-160 AP2:170-180 AP3: 185-190
[05:33] <Bookman> shaun_: do you really need this server?  Is it dedicated?  What do you use it for?
[05:34] <shaun_> i run webpages and game servers
[05:34] <shaun_> i dont need it
[05:34] <hotelmotel> angel: i gotta go, but I would put your static ip addys out of the DHCP range/pool.  At least this is how I always handle DHCP and static. good luck
[05:34] <Bookman> shaun_: problem solved.
[05:34] <shaun_> Bookman,  i spent a bit of money on it
[05:34] <shaun_> terrible
[05:34] <shaun_> : /
[05:35] <shaun_> its my own server though quad xeon 8 gigs of ram
[05:35] <shaun_> : /
[05:35] <Bookman> shaun_: It happens.  Move to a cheap host somewhere else.  I only pay around $6.00 a month for mine.
[05:35] <franktcwang> Berzerker: u r there?
[05:35] <Gouda> if it's your own server you paid money for the douchebag needs to respect that
[05:35] <Gouda> so what if it's at his data center
[05:35] <Gouda> it's your machine
[05:36] <Bookman> i agree
[05:36] <shaun_> I know , im getting awesome internet for free
[05:36] <shaun_> thing will push 15megs
[05:36] <shaun_> o well
[05:36] <shaun_> feel like this is Dr. Laura
[05:36] <shaun_> :p
[05:36] <MindVirus1> !hal
[05:36] <Gouda> just tell him that he is risking the security of your machine by running that shit under root
[05:36] <MindVirus1> Can someone change "depreciated" to "deprecated"?
[05:36] <franktcwang> Berzerker: I have sucessfully installed VLC player in my ubuntu PC. My purpose for that is to install VLC player on my ARM-based target(Embedded SYSTEM) board.
[05:37] <franktcwang> Do you have any suggestions for that?
[05:37] <MindVirus1> Any ops around?
[05:37] <Gouda> sup MindVirus
[05:37] <MindVirus1> Hello there. :)
[05:38] <Gouda> about to go home and play on Ubuntu
[05:38] <MindVirus1> Gouda: a plan, if you ask me.
[05:38] <Gouda> yeah I got diablo 2 working. I need to go home and get freenx working now
[05:38] <MindVirus1> Anyone with the power to change ubottu around here?
[05:38] <MindVirus1> Gouda: it's a little tough IIRC.
[05:38] <CaptainCrook> easy question: how to type ~ in terminal?
[05:39] <lstarnes> CaptainCrook: what keyboard layout are you using?
[05:39] <Gouda> well I will be on later asking for assistance :). Seeya
[05:39] <CaptainCrook> qwerty
[05:39] <lstarnes> CaptainCrook: US qwerty?
[05:39] <MindVirus1> Gouda: I will be on. Bye.
[05:39] <Gouda> laterz
[05:39] <CaptainCrook> CA qwerty
[05:39] <MindVirus1> CaptainCrook: Shift `.
[05:39] <MindVirus1> CaptainCrook: right under escape.
[05:39] <lstarnes> CaptainCrook: I look for a `/~ key under Esc next to 1
[05:40] <CaptainCrook> make backslash...
[05:40] <sargento> Where can I find issues when I turn off my PC?
[05:40] <CaptainCrook> \|/
[05:41] <malism> hi
[05:41] <lstarnes> CaptainCrook: try shift+` or AltGr+ç followd by space
[05:41] <MindVirus1> sargento: You want to find issues?
[05:41] <Burf> The latest release of Ubuntu brings the best open source technologies together on one platform, with the benefit of free updates for 18 months.
[05:41] <sargento> I boot up my PC like everybody but only shows a black screen and keyboard doesn't respond. I just installed Ubuntu 9.04
[05:41] <Burf> is ubuntu not entirely free then? 18 months?
[05:41] <malism> how can i repair this problem ? ...
[05:41] <malism> root@suez:/home/malism# razerd
[05:41] <malism> Razer device service daemon
[05:41] <malism> Failed to bind socket to /var/run/razerd/socket: Address already in use
[05:41] <FloodBot2> malism: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <CaptainCrook> ~
[05:41] <lstarnes> Burf: updates stop completely after 18 months and the release becomes unsupported
[05:41] <MindVirus1> Burf: Ubuntu is entirely free. The distribution will not be supported for longer than a year and a half though as new features break old systems.
[05:41] <CaptainCrook> lstarnes,  work! thanks!
[05:42] <lstarnes> CaptainCrook: is it an english keyboard, or is it french?
[05:42] <Burf> ah - so its just a case of updating to the new version (free)
[05:42] <lstarnes> Burf: yes
[05:42] <Burf> cool
[05:42] <MindVirus1> Burf: Ubuntu will always be free and open-source.
[05:42] <Burf> i have had a play with linux (YDL) on my ps3 a while back
[05:42] <sargento> MindVirus1: Actually I try to resolve one
[05:42] <lstarnes> Burf: LTS (long term support) releases such as 8.04 are supported for 3 years for the desktop editions and 5 years for the server editions
[05:43] <MindVirus1> sargento: http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <lstarnes> MindVirus1: some optional components are proprietary, like some device drivers
[05:43] <CaptainCrook> lstarnes,  CA Multilingual ...
[05:43] <MindVirus1> lstarnes: :) Of course. Ubuntu itself though will be free.
[05:43] <Burf> when you install the new updated version is that a case of running an update or do you need to wipe and install fresh?
[05:43] <lstarnes> Burf: you can do either
[05:43] <Burf> ok
[05:43] <sargento> Is there any log file that writes down issues?
[05:43] <Burf> thx
[05:43] <MindVirus1> Burf: I just updated to Karmic alpha without reinstalling.
[05:44] <lstarnes> sargento: check the files in /var/log
[05:44] <lstarnes> sargento: especially messages, syslog, and dmesg
[05:44] <Burf> karmic alpha - i cant see that
[05:44] <Burf> do they name their versions then?
[05:45] <lstarnes> Burf: you have to enable updating to development releases
[05:45] <sargento> lstarnes: Thanks, that's what I was looking for
[05:45] <lstarnes> Burf: you should probably wait until the actual final release of karmic (9.10) before upgrading to it
[05:45] <Burf> well i dont have ubuntu yet so i dont need to
[05:45] <Guest57972> Hi all, i'm a younger guy of about 21 years old, now i have a problem with my wireless. I am using an older model Toshiba Satellite L300 - LC1 system unit.Intel Celeron and the worst thing is i know my wireless card is on but for some reason my wireless is being a pain, anyone got a better idea as to how to get this card working?
[05:45] <leaf-sheep> What's the word I'm looking for... to backup the partition? To make a exact replicate of 1:1 filesystem? !backup does not do it justify.
[05:46] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: dd
[05:46] <Burf> just have some Q's on linux - whther converting would be a good idea
[05:46] <lstarnes> leaf-sheep: you could make an image of the partition using something like dd
[05:46] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: dd if=/dev/partition1 of=outputfile.partition
[05:46] <leaf-sheep> MindVirus1, lstarnes:  This can apply to Windows partition too?
[05:46] <Guest57972> on yeah i should mention that its also a laptop
[05:46] <lstarnes> leaf-sheep: anything on the disk
[05:47] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: Yes.
[05:47] <Burf> all the software is open source and on YDL i remember there was a program that seached for other programs to download - where do they come from - is the source code approved and how secure is that (i.e whats stopping someone writing a trojan of some kind and having it appear in that list) thx?
[05:47] <Newbuntu2> lstarnes: no root needed... what's the format of crontab? looks weird
[05:48] <lstarnes> Newbuntu2: see man 5 crontab
[05:48] <leaf-sheep> lstarnes, MindVirus1: See, I recently got a netbook -- I would like to duplicate the partition (I haven't started it up yet or anything) yet.  It's charging up.  I suppose I'll have to run disc and command dd to copy? How do I dd to paste?
[05:48] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: dd to what?
[05:48] <lstarnes> Newbuntu2: by default it uses vi or vim for editing.  You can change that to nano with EDITOR=nano crontab -e
[05:48] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: dd treats your partition like a giant file.
[05:48] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=backup
[05:49] <leaf-sheep> MindVirus1: dd to clone the partition.  In the future if I were to return it back to original partition, how would I do that?
[05:49] <Guest57972> wireless and laptop and linux for some reason i can see don't want to see eye to eye
[05:49] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: dd if=backup of=/dev/sda1
[05:49] <lstarnes> Burf: the developers that maintain the official repositories and their mirrors make sure that the packages haven't been tampered with
[05:49] <Burf> but the developers can be anyone tho?
[05:49] <lstarnes> Burf: there are numerous sites and mailing lists that list reported security issues
[05:50] <lstarnes> Burf: the leaders of the project usually select developers
[05:50] <leaf-sheep> MindVirus1: I'd have to run LiveCD or such, right?
[05:50] <lstarnes> Burf: if it is found that their access is being abused, they will lose it
[05:50] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: yes, in most cases.
[05:50] <Burf> but anyone can be a developer tho correct?
[05:50] <leaf-sheep> MindVirus1: Sweet. If I were to make dd of a 120GB partition, does that mean 120GB file or only those that applies?
[05:50] <lstarnes> Burf: anyone can be, but developers are usually chosen very carefully
[05:50] <syntax> How do you move a foldier if it says permission denied?
[05:51] <Burf> good news
[05:51] <lstarnes> syntax: you may need to use sudo mv folder destination
[05:51] <yourstruly> does anyone one know where i can find music, because I scratched up my smashing pumkins cd and I want to replace it, I already tried scratch remover and it didn't go well at all.
[05:51] <syntax> didnt work
[05:51] <AnxiousNut> pidgin fails when signing in Gmail, it tries to connect then the it freezes(the operation not pidgin) and then it doesnt work
[05:51] <Burf> i realised YDL is quite slow compared to windows - do ou guys notice much difference (and its ok to be honest)?
[05:51] <lstarnes> Burf: there are some exceptions, like the Personal Package Archives (PPAs) which are maintained by individual users instead of ubuntu's developers and package maintainers
[05:52] <lstarnes> Burf: ydl is not ubuntu
[05:52] <Burf> yes i realise that i mean linux in genral
[05:52] <leaf-sheep> MindVirus1: Ahh, I think I know what I'm going to do. Just want to clarify things up.  Thanks. :)
[05:52] <syntax> lstarnes: didnt work..Is there a way i can change permissions on it or something
[05:52] <lstarnes> Burf: it varies
[05:52] <MindVirus1> leaf-sheep: :)
[05:52] <lstarnes> Burf: it's usually faster, but some things may be slower
[05:52] <purefusion> is there a way to set all media to force mount?
[05:52] <purefusion> always force mount*
[05:52] <Burf> may hve been ps3's low ram then
[05:52] <lstarnes> syntax: what full command are you using?
[05:53] <Burf> what about runing windows programs - i would need VB6 access - is that possible?
[05:53] <lstarnes> Burf: wine
[05:53] <Burf> emulator?
[05:53] <sargento> If I boot up normally, my PC doesn't startup, only black screen, but If I enter in recovery mode and use xfix and then resume booting, my PC starts up in Ubuntu 9.04, any idea?
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[05:53] <lstarnes> Burf: wine is a compatibility layer that allows many windows applications to run on linux
[05:54] <Burf> is it fast?
[05:54] <lstarnes> Burf: it's about average in speed
[05:54] <lstarnes> Burf: some things are faster in wine than on windows, others are slower or tun at the same speed
[05:54] <Burf> does it require you install windows on the machine too?
[05:54] <jacekowski> Burf: if it works
[05:54] <rubik_> Burf : Do you already have a licensed windows copy ?
[05:54] <Ben64> but not everything works, and things that do work don't always run perfectly
[05:54] <jacekowski> Burf: ussualy it's slower
[05:54] <yourstruly> Ben64, thank you, but I already purchased once and I have read you can find files on irc.
[05:55] <Burf> i have legit windows yeah
[05:55] <sargento> Burf: Wine is like having Windows without needing to install, like VirtualBox
[05:55] <lstarnes> syntax: it sounds like a permissions error, likely with a mounted drive
[05:55] <rubik_> Burf : that i would suggest to run it under virtualbox
[05:55] <lstarnes> syntax: you could try cp instead of mv to make a copy instead of moving
[05:55] <Ben64> yourstruly: but that would be illegal :(
[05:55] <jacekowski> Burf: if you need reliable way of running windows applications - windows will be the best choice
[05:55] <franktcwang> Whoever has experiences to port VLC player on ARM-based target board?
[05:55] <syntax> lstarnes: Ive tryed that as well
[05:55] <yourstruly> If I already own it?
[05:55] <Burf> jacekowski: lol
[05:56] <Ben64> yourstruly: pretty sure, yeah.. I don't agree with those laws though, completely idiotic
[05:56] <jacekowski> esspecialy games
[05:56] <Saik> how do you find how long your pc has been on?
[05:56] <Burf> i have windows - but im interested in swapping to linux (poss. ubuntu) but as i have a few long term projects in VB6 i would need to be able to run it in linux
[05:56] <Ben64> Saik: uptime
[05:56] <lstarnes> syntax: you could try using it with sudo then using chmod on the copy
[05:56] <jacekowski> world of warcraft over wine have about 50% fps
[05:56] <yourstruly> yeah thats too bad, can a person dl linux distros on irc? Kinda wierd question I know.
[05:57] <syntax> lstarnes: How would i go about doing that in the command?
[05:57] <sargento> If I boot up normally, my PC doesn't startup, only black screen, but If I enter in recovery mode and use xfix and then resume booting, my PC starts up in Ubuntu 9.04.
[05:57] <sargento> I need where to find what is it going on, any ideas?
[05:57] <lstarnes> yourstruly: not usually
[05:57] <lstarnes> syntax: put sudo before the command
[05:57] <Ben64> yourstruly: nobody really does file transfers on irc anymore, more torrents now
[05:57] <lstarnes> Burf: you may want to consider porting those projects to a more portable language, such as python
[05:57] <jacekowski> Burf: basicaly - you get what you paid for
[05:58] <lstarnes> Burf: wine can run many windows applications, and mono can run .NET applications
[05:58] <Ben64> jacekowski: wine isn't that bad at all
[05:58] <Ben64> it's really an amazing project
[05:58] <Burf> im not complaining - and i dont need to port to another language thank you
[05:58] <Burf> is momo and wine free too?
[05:58] <jacekowski> mono
[05:58] <prince_jammys> yep.
[05:59] <MindVirus1> Ben64: it's pretty bad.
[05:59] <prince_jammys> you can get mono just by kissing the wrong person.
[05:59] <MindVirus1> I avoid it at all costs.
[05:59] <yourstruly> ah, I see, well thanks. I have used torrents quite a bit. However I am completely new to irc (your the first person I ever talked to) so I was hoping to learn more about it and try to explore the system.
[05:59] <jacekowski> Ben64: it's shit
[05:59] <MindVirus1> Burf: Mono and Wine are both free.
[05:59] <MindVirus1> Burf: you won't need Mono for VB6.
[05:59] <jacekowski> Ben64: wine implements only about 50% of windows api
[05:59] <lstarnes> jacekowski: newer versions of wine are more complete
[05:59] <jacekowski> i'm talking about new wine
[06:00] <Ben64> jacekowski: irrelevant, windows only supports ~50% of their api
[06:00] <sebsebseb> Wine is a very impressive peice of software,  and those who think it's  rather bad,  don't know much about it
[06:00] <sebsebseb> usaulley
[06:00] <Burf> probly a bad idea conding a windows program in linux anyway
[06:00] <MindVirus1> sebsebseb: it is impressive but fails to function on many levels.
[06:00] <sebsebseb> altough the reverse engingering and time and effort, to make Wine
[06:00] <MindVirus1> It is not enterprise-quality software like the rest of Ubuntu is.
[06:00] <Ben64> i run wine almost 24/7, works perfectly for me
[06:00] <sebsebseb> MindVirus1: Wine is not Ubuntu
[06:00] <Burf> can you install windows and linux on the same machine and choose OS on boot up - can that be done?
[06:00] <lstarnes> Burf: yes
[06:00] <sebsebseb> Wine is a program that Ubuntu and  many other Linux distributions can also run
[06:01] <MindVirus1> sebsebseb: Are you arguing for the sake of arguing? I never said anything like that.
[06:01] <lstarnes> Burf: that is commonly referred to as dual-booting
[06:01] <prince_jammys> Burf: yes, it's called dual-booting.
[06:01] <Ben64> MindVirus1: you're the one saying wine is bad, even though it has proven to be quite not bad
[06:01] <vlvl> i downloaded ubuntu 9.04 desktop from ubuntu.com, i have windows xp, can i install ubuntu on partition d: ?
[06:01] <MindVirus1> Ben64: it is bad.
[06:01] <Burf> is dual booting fast, i imagine i can only have 1 os running at the same time yes?
[06:01] <jacekowski> Ben64: it's bad
[06:01] <sargento> What does boostrap log is for?
[06:01] <lstarnes> Burf: yes and yes
[06:01] <prince_jammys> Burf: correct. and yes, it's fast.
[06:01] <Ben64> MindVirus1, jacekowski = same person
[06:01] <jacekowski> Ben64: it runs maybe 20% of all windows applications
[06:01] <lstarnes> sargento: /var/log/bootstrap.log ?
[06:01] <MindVirus1> OK....
[06:01] <MindVirus1> No.
[06:01] <Ben64> also, it's not bad
[06:02] <MindVirus1> Ben64: anecdotal evidence is great.
[06:02] <Burf> sounds more and more tempting
[06:02] <sargento> lstarnes: Yes, sorry
[06:02] <MindVirus1> Listen, Ben64, you can stick to your opinion or you can do some reading.
[06:02] <MindVirus1> Either way, I couldn't care less.
[06:02] <lstarnes> sargento: that looks like it may be an installation log
[06:02] <prince_jammys> Burf: not much to lose in trying it, really.
[06:02] <mkoehler> hey guys - I've got a question....what do I do if update manager / gdebi is broken
[06:02] <prince_jammys> Burf: time, only.
[06:02] <Ben64> jacekowski: so what does it not run
[06:02] <Royall> vlvl: I don't think that's enough information
[06:02] <AnxiousNut> VLC SEGMENTATION FAULT HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[06:02] <MindVirus1> Ben64: Any game.
[06:02] <Ben64> lies
[06:02] <Burf> true - so long as i dont have to format my HDD to instal it and it can run beside my current OS
[06:02] <sebsebseb> Burf ideally  you use a native Linux app, then if  there isn't one for what you want to do, you can do Wine or commercial versions of it even,  and then if no luck there, you can do Windows virtual machine, and then if still no luck, because  it's some rather fancy app or something,   psyical Windows install
[06:03] <sargento> lstarnes: I did think so but I'm running Ubuntu right now, just need to use recovery mode to enter and works fine
[06:03] <Ben64> also, gj responding to jacekowski's question, therefore cementing that you two are in fact, one
[06:03] <ilembitov> Hi! Can anybody help me? i have one key broken at my keyboard. i want to use setkeycodes to make another key work instead of it, but can't get the work done
[06:03] <ilembitov> How do i do this?
[06:03] <MindVirus1> Ben64: not at all can I see what you type.
[06:03] <MindVirus1> Ben64: check my IP.
[06:03] <MindVirus1>  /whois MindVirus1
[06:03] <MindVirus1> What the hell? Why am I trying to prove this to you?
[06:03] <MindVirus1> You're a troll.
[06:03] <Ben64> you're the troll
[06:03] <Ben64> "Wine won't run any game"
[06:03] <Ben64> cmon
[06:03] <lstarnes> Ben64, MindVirus1: both of you need to stop
[06:03] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: Wine is far from perfect,  but  Microsoft don't help with Wine, and if they did,  I expect it would be awesome
[06:03] <jacekowski> Ben64: link5000, autocad, rslogix5000, rslogix500, rsview32, b&r automation studio, avr studio, 5xxx for windows, altium designer,
[06:03] <Ben64> steve ballmer does a better job trolling
[06:04] <Royall> Burf: Dual booting has no effect on performance at all in my experience
[06:04] <sargento> lstarnes: But I need to enter in Recovery Mode and select xfix almost everytime I start my PC
[06:04] <MindVirus1> Ben64: I'm a few seconds away from reporting you. Back off.
[06:04] <Burf> oh and simcity4 i see can be ran in wine
[06:04] <Ben64> MindVirus1: OH NO
[06:04] <Burf> Royall: how do i go about it?
[06:04] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: microsoft provides everything you need to make wine work
[06:04] <mkoehler> hey...can we forget about the trolls for a second =) and help me, of course...
[06:04] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: after all they keep on changing  ways that software can be made for Windows
[06:04] <Burf> does my bios have to support it?
[06:04] <MindVirus1> Ben64: push me.
[06:04] <Burf> i.e how do i select my OS
[06:04] <prince_jammys> Burf: a menu appears.
[06:04] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: maybe so,  and  in that case, only for people that know what they are doing
[06:04] <sargento> Burf: GRUB
[06:05] <brassmaster> can anyone remind me what channel i should go to to talk about karmic?
[06:05] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: all you need is documentation of winapi
[06:05] <Royall> Burf: you could burn an Ubuntu ISO to a disc to make a Live CD, and then partition your HDD after booting to the CD. See, you can boot to a burned Live CD and try out Ubuntu from there, and make modifications to your HDD from it
[06:05]  * Ben64 pushes MindVirus1, mkoehler -- what's your problem?
[06:05] <lstarnes> Burf: the bootloader (either grub or the windows bootloader) can be configured to do that
[06:05] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: which can be easily found on microsoft website
[06:05] <sebsebseb> brassmaster: #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <AnxiousNut>  VLC SEGMENTATION FAULT HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[06:05] <lstarnes> AnxiousNut: please stop doing that
[06:05] <Ben64> !details | AnxiousNut
[06:05] <leaf-sheep> AnxiousNut: #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <Royall> AnxiousNut: Okay let me just push the "HELLPPPP" button and fix all your problems
[06:06] <Royall> AnxiousNut: seeing as you gave me just enough information to know what the problem is in a civil and composed manner
[06:06] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: but the thing is that wine will still have to translate winapi calls to linux kernel, x protocol, and other calls
[06:06] <knob> Hello... to create a directory via ssh, can I use        mkdir ../newDIR   ??
[06:06] <lstarnes> knob: yes
[06:06] <konza> hi
[06:06] <knob> thanks
[06:06] <sargento> lstarnes: Any idea?, only found support when you can't enter Ubuntu, but I can
[06:06] <lstarnes> knob: throogh ssh
[06:06] <ilembitov>  Hi! Can somebody help me? i have a key broken on my keyboard, i need to reassign this key to another one. Permanently, so i would have this key in GNOME, gdm and console
[06:06] <knob> and will it create it inside the directory I'm at?
[06:06] <lstarnes> sargento: I'm not exactly sure what needs to be done
[06:07] <lstarnes> knob: yes
[06:07] <knob> super :)
[06:07] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: so unless microsoft will do something really bad to windows performance, wine will never be faster than windows
[06:07] <sebsebseb> jacekowski:   well,  native Linux apps :)  then Wine or commercial versions,   and  then Windows virtual machine
[06:07] <knob> thnkS!
[06:07] <lstarnes> sargento: you may need to reconfigure X
[06:07] <Ben64> jacekowski: theres times where performance on wine exceeds windows
[06:07] <konza> anyone know, how to configure IMAP SERVER ? I am using ubuntu 9.04..
[06:07] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: faster than Windows, well for what I been using Wine for it's, been  the same
[06:07] <lstarnes> knob: actually, .. creates it in the directory above the current directory
[06:07] <jacekowski> Ben64: look at benchmark
[06:07] <AnxiousNut> im running 9.04, just upgraded my vlc 0.9.9a to vlc 1.0 and now each time i try to launch it, it appears then it dies
[06:07] <sargento> lstarnes: Let my explain you please. I'm on Ubuntu right now, I supposed it means that my actual configuration is perfect, is it correct?
[06:07] <lstarnes> knob: ~ is short for your home dir, . is short for the current, and .. is short for the one above
[06:07] <jacekowski> Ben64: it get's worse every version
[06:08] <MindVirus1> jacekowski: he is a troll. He doesn't need benchmarks to evangelize WINE.
[06:08] <Royall> Burf: this is probably what you need: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:08] <lstarnes> sargento: aren't you using recovery mode?
[06:08] <konza> anyone know, how to configure IMAP SERVER ? I am using ubuntu 9.04..
[06:08] <Royall> MindVirus1: and you're a troll feeder. You're just as responsible for the troll's health.
[06:08] <sargento> lstarnes: Not right now, I'm in normal mode
[06:08] <Burf> http://oreilly.com/linux/archive/dual-boot-laptop.html
[06:08] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: as for  Windows games,  Linux users should stop  playing them :)  unless they make for Linux or they work well enough in Wine, idealley
[06:08] <ilembitov>  Hi! Can somebody help me? i have a key broken on my keyboard, i need to reassign this key to another one. Permanently, so i would have this key in GNOME, gdm and console
[06:08] <Burf> googling now - thx man
[06:08] <Ben64> http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5
[06:08] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: i don't care
[06:08] <AnxiousNut> launched it in the terminal and it wrote: VLC media player 1.0.1 Goldeneye
[06:08] <AnxiousNut> [0x915e140] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[06:08] <AnxiousNut> Segmentation fault
[06:08] <AnxiousNut>  ttries cvlc but aint workin
[06:08] <MindVirus1> Royall: Pardon? How's that? He's lying and I am refuting.
[06:08] <FloodBot2> AnxiousNut: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <Ben64> shows there are plenty of instances where wine wins
[06:09] <prince_jammys> !dualboot | Burf
[06:09] <lstarnes> !imap | konza
[06:09] <sebsebseb> Ben64: indeed
[06:09] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: linux isn't desktop OS
[06:09] <Burf> thx
[06:09] <lstarnes> jacekowski: it can be used as one
[06:09] <jacekowski> sebsebseb: people should realize that
[06:09] <MindVirus1> jacekowski: whoa now.
[06:09] <Royall> MindVirus1: lest sleeping dogs lie :P
[06:09] <MindVirus1> jacekowski: why do you say this?
[06:09] <Royall> let*
[06:09] <sebsebseb> Ben64: for example I am amazed at how well Sim City 4 works in Wine,  ok the game is from 2003, but  older games like that one, are still good
[06:09] <prince_jammys> cut the trollery.
[06:09] <Royall> go to #wine
[06:09] <jacekowski> most of desktop things are still messy
[06:09] <warpasaurusrex> sure it is.. if people use it on a desktop, it's a desktop OS
[06:09] <jacekowski> sound
[06:09] <jacekowski> graphics
[06:09] <Royall> I don't care if it's about the beverage wine or if it's empty just go there
[06:10] <sargento> lstarnes: I correct my problem by entering in recovery mode and selecting xfix to fix my X problem, and now I'm in normal mode, but when I reboot, I need to enter again in recovery mode and select xfix
[06:10] <Ben64> i guess MindVirus1 couldn't hack into me so he's back to trolling
[06:10] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: that's nonsense of coure it is a desktop os, depending on the distribution
[06:10] <Burf> can you dual boot if you install 1 os on one drive and the OS on the other?
[06:10] <MindVirus1> jacekowski: Surely it's just a poorly-polished desktop distro.
[06:10] <MindVirus1> !ops | Ben64
[06:10] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: course above
[06:10] <sargento> lstarnes: Did I make myself clear?
[06:10] <lstarnes> Burf: yes
[06:10] <sebsebseb> jacekowski: course even
[06:10] <lstarnes> sargento: I believe so
[06:10] <jacekowski> 3 different sound api implementation
[06:10] <Burf> ie, if i have an extra HDD  i can leave windows intact and just install linux on other drive - cool
[06:10] <Myrtti> MindVirus1: what's the problem
[06:10] <mic> can someone help me figure out what my wifi configuration is? please?
[06:10] <prince_jammys> #ubuntu-offtopic is just around the corner.
[06:10] <MindVirus1> Myrtti: I won't be left alone.
[06:10] <jacekowski> only nvidia with good linux drivers
[06:11] <MindVirus1> Myrtti: I don't mean to bother.
[06:11] <lstarnes> sargento: it still sounds like it may be a configuration issue
[06:11] <Myrtti> PEOPLE, this is SUPPORT channel. Please take the OFFTOPIC elsewhere!
[06:11] <jacekowski> graphic maybe isn't linux developers fault
[06:11] <jacekowski> but sound is
[06:11] <bazhang> jacekowski, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:11] <sargento> lstarnes: So the problem must be happening whe I shut down my PC, because I always fix it the same way
[06:12] <lstarnes> sargento: that is possible
[06:13] <sargento> lstarnes: So, to find out what my problem is, I think the best idea is to look for any log that writes when I shutdown my PC and see what's my PC doing on shutdown, do you agree?
[06:13] <jacekowski> and there is one thing about commercial software - if it doesn't work you have somebody to blame
[06:13] <lstarnes> sargento: it is possible that the cause of the problem may not be logged
[06:14] <bazhang> jacekowski, this is not the chat channel; please desist
[06:14] <sargento> lstarnes: Any suggestions about it?
[06:14] <heogen> hi
[06:14] <lstarnes> sargento: I can't think of anything
[06:15] <sargento> lstarnes: Thanks a lot anyway
[06:15] <heogen> I would like to work making a program that can print 6 number from 1 to 38
[06:15] <Ben64> heogen: huh? like random?
[06:15] <MindVirus1> heogen: this not a programming channel. Try #C, #C++, #python, #java, or #bash.
[06:15] <MindVirus1> !programming
[06:16] <MindVirus1> Meh.
[06:16] <knob> I didn't use      mk ../newDIR      I used   mk ../newDIR/       and now it's like invisible... how can I remove that file/directory/whateverITis ?
[06:16] <knob> =\
[06:16] <heogen> MindVirus1, thank you
[06:16] <MindVirus1> heogen: :)
[06:16] <lstarnes> knob: rmdir ../newDIR
[06:16] <Ben64> knob: to make a directory, use "mkdir" not just "mk"
[06:16] <NetEcho> hey I'm trying to find a quick way to search a directory / all of its sub-directories to see which files contain a specific string
[06:16] <heogen> MindVirus1, but do you think that I can got it en python?
[06:16] <NetEcho> anyone know a good way of doing that?
[06:17] <MindVirus1> heogen: Ask #python.
[06:17] <lstarnes> NetEcho: grep -nHR "string" directory
[06:17] <NetEcho> lstarnes thanks
[06:17] <knob> thanks! :)
[06:17] <heogen> MindVirus1, ok
[06:17] <c1rcuit> i am attempting to do: sudo echo "0" > /path/to/thing
[06:17] <c1rcuit> however i gegt an error
[06:17] <c1rcuit> that i do not have permission
[06:17] <c1rcuit> how do i overcome this?
[06:17] <lstarnes> c1rcuit: echo "0" | sudo tee /path/to/thing
[06:17] <prince_jammys> c1rcuit: echo 0 | sudo tee /path/to/thing
[06:17] <MindVirus1> c1rcuit: chmod 777 /path/to/thing
[06:17] <prince_jammys> yuck
[06:18] <MindVirus1> Those are more elegant solutions.
[06:18]  * prince_jammys hits MindVirus with a hose
[06:18] <lstarnes> c1rcuit: or sudo sh -c 'echo "0" > /path/to/thing'
[06:18] <MindVirus1> prince_jammys: I never even thought of that.
[06:18] <NetEcho> lstarnes: so like grep -nHR "<div class="advert">" html/
[06:18] <NetEcho> ?
[06:18] <c1rcuit> thank you
[06:18] <Myrtti> MindVirus1: not yours
[06:18] <MindVirus1> Myrtti: pardon?
[06:18] <lstarnes> NetEcho: try '<div class="advert">' html/
[06:18] <MindVirus1> Yeah, not mine.
[06:18] <NetEcho> k thanks
[06:18] <MindVirus1> i was saying the other two. :)
[06:18] <Myrtti> MindVirus1: changing permissions to 777 isn't a good idea
[06:19] <Myrtti> ;-)
[06:19] <MindVirus1> Of course. I'm a bit sleep-deprived (as is the excuse, I know).
[06:19] <prince_jammys> c1rcuit: that happened because the shell sets up the redirection before commands (like sudo) are run, so it attempted to do it as your current user.
[06:19] <knob> lstarnes, is there some kind of permissions?   This is odd... I try to create it via     mkdir ../newdir      and it does it, yet I can't    cd newdir
[06:19] <MindVirus1> Anyone know anything about podsleuth?
[06:20] <lstarnes> knob: ./newdir, not ../newdir
[06:20] <Ben64> knob: ".." is one level above you
[06:20] <knob> oooo
[06:20] <knob> :D
[06:20] <lstarnes> knob: ../newdir makes newdir in the directory that contains the current directory
[06:20] <Ben64> knob: to cd to it, you would have to do "cd ../newdir"
[06:20] <knob> New at this... very many thanks. :)
[06:20] <Rishab_> hello every one
[06:20] <MindVirus1> knob: . is the current directory; .. is one above; ../.. is two above, etc.
[06:20] <knob> ohh... so I was making it "outside" ... one level up?
[06:20] <prince_jammys> yep
[06:20] <Ben64> knob: indeed
[06:20] <lstarnes> knob: yes
[06:20] <knob> super
[06:20] <GhostXtreme> I am trying to auto update ubuntu via shell ... Script works fine but it doesn't if I execute via crontab ... Error when executing command apt-get upgrade -y.. Any ideas ?
[06:20] <knob> thanks a lot
[06:21] <prince_jammys> you didn't want to name it literally dot-dot did you ?
[06:21] <Ben64> knob: if you want to make something in the current directory, you can just do "mkdir newdir"
[06:21] <knob> no... fUp on my part
[06:21] <knob> no need for ./newdir?
[06:21] <Ben64> nope
[06:21] <prince_jammys> no
[06:21] <knob> cool
[06:21] <knob> :)
[06:22] <Rishab_> i installed ubuntu over windows XP. now logging into ubuntu am not able to change the file permission of windows partition
[06:22] <Rishab_> it says not accessible
[06:22] <knob> and to copy... can I do        cp -a /oldDir/* /newdir/     ?
[06:23] <Rishab_> can any one tell me how to change the file permission of Windows partition
[06:23] <Ben64> knob: nope...
[06:23] <lstarnes> knob: yes, except it's -r not -a
[06:23] <Ben64> knob: if you do /oldDir then that means thats in the root directory of the partition
[06:23] <knob> ooohh... then...
[06:23] <knob> -a is for a file... not dir
[06:24] <knob> ok.. so
[06:24] <Ben64> knob: you might just want "cp -R olddir/* newdir/"
[06:24] <knob> cp -r oldDir/* newdir/   ?
[06:24] <knob> w00t :D
[06:24] <MindVirus1> knob: -r means recursively.
[06:24] <knob> and recursively?    one file after another?
[06:24] <MindVirus1> In other words, copy all subdirectories, knob.
[06:25] <knob> cool... unix command creaters really thought stuff through =)
[06:25] <knob> *creators
[06:26] <Rishab_> can any one help me
[06:26] <Seybobo1234> how can i enable xdmcp from the comand line?
[06:26] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: are you able to access your windows partition? explain what you're trying to achieve.
[06:26] <knob> Rishab... use a boot cd ?
[06:28] <Seybobo1234> xdmcp Is it possible to enable xdmcp from the command line i have a head less server with ssh and i want to enable xdmcp
[06:28] <Rishab_> prince_jammys i want to delete some files from the windows partition
[06:29] <rahmu> hey guys I wanna format my PC and reinstall Ubuntu except my CD drive is out. All the tutorials I find on Google explain how to do it from a Windows machine except I don't have a Windows machine (I use Ubuntu already). Can anyone show me an easy tutorial on how to do that ?
[06:29] <Newbuntu2> where do crontab errors get logged?
[06:29] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: are you able to access the filesystem and view the files?
[06:29] <Rishab_> prince_jammys yes
[06:29] <prince_jammys> Newbuntu2: you mean the error output of a cron'ed script?
[06:30] <lstarnes> Newbuntu2: maybe /var/log/syslog or in your locak mailbox
[06:30] <abb> rahmu, do you have a USB drive (pen drive/stick)? you could use it in lieu of a CD drive
[06:30] <lstarnes> *local
[06:30] <yaris1234567891> hi folks, a script outputs "hello world" to a text file. it runs fine on its own, but when its executed from another script in public_html, the text file is empty.
[06:30] <rahmu> abb: yes I do. But I can't seem to boot from it
[06:30] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: and when you try to delete the file, you get "permission denied" or similar?
[06:31] <abb> rahmu, hold on, I saw that link just a min ago.
[06:31] <Rishab_> prince_jammys xactly more over while trying to change the permission also it denied
[06:31] <prince_jammys> !ntfs
[06:32] <Seybobo1234> xdmcp Is it possible to enable xdmcp from the command line i have a head less server with ssh and i want to enable xdmcp
[06:32] <abb> rahmu, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting
[06:32] <prince_jammys> !ntfs-3g | Rishab: check this
[06:32] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: verify that you have that installed.
[06:32] <abb> rahmu, should be a guide to how to format/setup a USB drive to boot (with ubuntu) on that page, might not be the first item listed
[06:32] <Rishab_> am using FAT
[06:33] <rahmu> abb: thx I'll check it out.
[06:33] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: oh, ok.
[06:34] <abb> rahmu, good luck. glad to help.
[06:34] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: what does grep vfat /etc/fstab   output?
[06:35] <Rishab_> prince_jammys that commands just execute without any o/p
[06:35] <adalal1> hey.. anyone experiencing difficulties with updates?
[06:35] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: there's no line in fstab for your partition?
[06:35] <adalal1> esp. with amsn dependencies?
[06:36] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: i can tell you a line to add if you tell me the device and mountpoint
[06:36] <Rishab_> prince_jammys but the device mount and accessible
[06:36] <prince_jammys> i have a vfat partition, and this "works for me": /dev/hda3  /mnt/share vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077 0 0
[06:36] <prince_jammys> 1000 is my user id. the device and mountpoint you'd have to change.
[06:37] <prince_jammys> and the umask, if you want others to access it.
[06:37] <Rishab_> prince_jammys /dev/hda2 is my windows partition
[06:38] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: are you the only user?
[06:38] <prince_jammys> .. or, do you want other users to have access?
[06:38] <Rishab_> yes and i have no idea abt the mount point
[06:38] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: the mount point is the directory where you go to access the files.
[06:39] <Rishab_> no probs. its my personal com
[06:39] <Rishab_> okay
[06:39] <prince_jammys> maybe it's /media/something in your system
[06:39] <Rishab_> yes
[06:39] <prince_jammys> /dev/hda2 /media/whatever_it_is vfat ... same as what i posted up there
[06:40] <prince_jammys> in /etc/fstab.  then: sudo mount -a
[06:40] <chordogg> Hi all, is there a way to clear the password cache of the Seahorse agent?
[06:40] <Seybobo1234> how can i restart gdm from the comand line
[06:40] <chordogg> Seybobo1234: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: echo $UID   (should give you 1000 in a typical install)
[06:41] <optical> Hey all, how do I see if I'm using the NVIDIA driver?  I installed package from nvidia.com and want to make sure X is using the new driver
[06:41] <anom01y> http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/John/
[06:41] <chordogg> Seybobo1234: have to sudo that command btw
[06:41] <chetnick> i want to backup home dir files. I am currently in my /home/tux directory ... when i do tar cvpzf backup.tgz * it does not include files starting with . ? how to do this to include all of them?
[06:41] <Seybobo1234> thank you
[06:41] <Myrtti> anom01y: how's that related to Ubuntu support?
[06:41] <anom01y> oop
[06:42] <Lappy> Bluey
[06:42] <Lappy> Are you here?
[06:43] <the_gamer> hi folks, i need ie4linux but i can't find it in synaptec. how to install it?
[06:43] <prince_jammys> !ie4linux | the_gamer
[06:43] <prince_jammys> !ies4linux | the_gamer
[06:43] <knob> Ok, haven't found this::     If I want to "merge" the contents of  asdf/unzip    into   asdf/       can I use the   mv command?
[06:43] <the_gamer> thanks
[06:43] <mic> how do i know the specific version of a driver (of my wifi pci express adapter) i'm using from the command line?
[06:44] <zenlunatic> knob: bash redirection
[06:44] <knob> thanks ... googling
[06:44] <prince_jammys> explain what you mean by "merge the contents"
[06:44] <zenlunatic> yeah
[06:44] <prince_jammys> the contents of a directory? of a file?
[06:44] <knob> like when using FileZilla
[06:45] <Rishab_> prince_jammys echo $UID gives "0"  as output
[06:45] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: tsk tsk.
[06:45] <prince_jammys> you be root.
[06:45] <Rishab_> yes
[06:46] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: well your normal user has UID 1000 by default.
[06:46] <Rishab_> i always the root user
[06:46] <prince_jammys> i'll skip the sermon.
[06:46] <zenlunatic> !root
[06:46] <zenlunatic> *shrug*
[06:47] <anzo> Hello everyone, I am having a bit of trouble tonight with repositories. For somereason i keep getting a 404 error when i attempt to update.... Anyone know why this might be?
[06:47] <Rishab_> ubottu that too sinple to assign your user as the root
[06:47] <mic> 404 file not found
[06:47] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: you do have a regular user, right?
[06:48] <knob> Or can I just    mv  cms/unzip/* cms/  ?
[06:48] <mic> 403 access denied
[06:48] <prince_jammys> Rishab_: an administrative user who ISN'T root
[06:48] <prince_jammys> knob: yes, you can do that.
[06:48] <knob> thanks... :)
[06:48] <Rishab_> i have but its too irritating to give password every time
[06:48] <prince_jammys> every time?
[06:48] <prince_jammys> only for special activities. and you can ''sudo -i'' for that if you must.
[06:49] <prince_jammys> anyway ... try a line in /etc/fstab like the one i gave.
[06:49] <mralexandro> is it better to install paintshop/ms office in wine or in a virutal environment such as vmWare? which would be more stable, mosst primarely for photoshop
[06:49] <prince_jammys> !winehq | mralexandro
[06:49] <Parsley> Hello, can anyone help me setting up a PXE boot over LAN?
[06:49] <Rishab_> prince_jammys s
[06:50] <prince_jammys> !appdb | mralexandro : sorry, this
[06:50] <prince_jammys> check out if your progs run well under wine.
[06:50] <mralexandro> prince_jammys, thanks man
[06:50] <prince_jammys> i can run an old photoshop in wine here without much problem.
[06:50] <Parsley> I'm following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot but my client isnt booting
[06:51] <Parsley> im also getting a few errors surprise surprise
[06:51] <mralexandro> prince_jammys, and it would be better getting it running in wine than vmware?
[06:51] <anzo> here is the error i am getting " Could not download all repository indexes
[06:51] <anzo> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct."
[06:51] <prince_jammys> mralexandro: i don't know.
[06:51] <prince_jammys> mralexandro: i've only done it in wine.
[06:51] <mralexandro> prince_jammys, all good, thanks so far lots of kudos
[06:51] <mralexandro> :D
[06:52] <Parsley> mralexandro: i face the same issue with a diff program, i found virtualbox easier to deal with than wine
[06:52] <legend2440> anzo: what version of ubuntu?
[06:52] <anzo> i am useing 9.04
[06:53] <prince_jammys> anzo: which is the repository they are referring to? check out your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:53] <anzo> Failed to fetch http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/hardy/deb-src/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[06:53] <anzo> Failed to fetch http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/hardy/http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[06:53] <anzo> Failed to fetch http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/hardy/hardy/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[06:53] <anzo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:53] <legend2440> anzo: open system>admin>software sources  maybe try different server
[06:53] <FloodBot2> anzo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <prince_jammys> anzo: where did those blognux things come from? you added them? they say ''hardy''
[06:54] <knob> what would the parameter be for replacing any files?       mv -? cms/unzip/*   cms/   ?
[06:54] <legend2440> anzo if your using 904 jaunty why hardy repos?
[06:54] <mralexandro> can i get help checking if i have the latest wine. sorry for noob quetsion
[06:55] <anzo> i just installed this distro 4 days ago
[06:55] <anzo> i have done nothing, so are my repos wrong?
[06:55] <xikteny> mralexandro: "1.1.28~winehq0~ubuntu~9.04-0ubuntu1"
[06:55] <prince_jammys> anzo: yes, they say hardy. you have jaunty.
[06:56] <anzo> Wow, should have noticed that... guess i will try and look them up. Weird thing is updated earlier today....
[06:57] <mralexandro> xikteny, 1.1.28 is latest??
[06:57] <prince_jammys> i have hardy, and wine version 0.9.59-0ubuntu4
[06:58] <prince_jammys> but hardy ain't new.
[06:58] <Gouda> Hey what's up Mindvirus
[06:58] <veera> Having problems with sound on Dell Studio 1555
[06:58] <xikteny> mralexandro: yup
[06:58] <seanLX> hey guys
[06:59] <seanLX> im having a problem with transmission. it wont coonect
[06:59] <mralexandro> xikteny, thanks
[06:59] <seanLX> connect*
[06:59] <anzo> Thanks for your help guys, for some reason there are 4 repos in the software sources, 2 jaunty, 2 hardy.... the hardy ones had been checked... odd as i know i havent done this.
[06:59] <veera> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[06:59] <veera> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]
[07:00] <veera> Is there any bug with Intel 82801I in ubuntu?
[07:00] <seanLX> anybody???
[07:01] <Seybobo1234> what ftp server would you recomend
[07:02] <prince_jammys> anzo: do you have 'easycam' ?
[07:03] <anzo> I do have easycam prince
[07:04] <prince_jammys> anzo: that's how/why those repos are there, apparently. (from googling)
[07:04] <Paragor> Can someone help me download and install Photoshop CS4? Im a complete moron and Icant for the lif of me figure it out.
[07:04] <prince_jammys> anzo: check it out. site has moved here: http://blog.jbtheou.fr/
[07:05] <prince_jammys> anzo: i assume you speak french :)
[07:05] <FlugHaffen> i still having problems with grub.  It now says "GRUB hard disk error" when booting
[07:05] <anzo> Lol no i do not, i just have never been able to get a webcam working with linux and i was told this works wonders....
[07:05] <ultraputz> any lvm wizards show up recently?
[07:05] <prince_jammys> anzo: translate it using google. somehow easycam added those repositories.
[07:06] <anzo> Thanks
[07:06] <prince_jammys> anzo: perhaps a script you downloaded from them echo'ed the stuff into sources.list.
[07:06] <Paragor> Can someone help me get photo shop? I need it for school and ill fail if I dont have it. Im a complete newbie.
[07:06] <Slart> Paragor: www.adobe.com should be able to help you
[07:06] <prince_jammys> Paragor: heh, wrong channel.
[07:07] <ultraputz> paragor - unless you do wine, there's no photoshop under gnome
[07:07] <leaf-sheep> Paragor: gimp
[07:07] <Parsley> paragor: photoshop is for windows and mac only
[07:07] <ultraputz> you might try GIMP
[07:07] <prince_jammys> Slart: haha.
[07:07] <anzo> Gimp is awesome
[07:07] <prince_jammys> and here comes the flamewar.
[07:07] <b3rz3rk3r> Paragor, if your school will fail you for not having photoshop, id change schools if i were you
[07:07] <Parsley> itll be hard for him to follow classroom instructions when they're issued for pshop not gimp
[07:07] <Paragor> Exaclty.
[07:07] <ultraputz> Parsley, actually..
[07:07] <leaf-sheep> Marines make do.  Use gimp + inkscape
[07:08] <ultraputz> there's a gimp variant that mimicks the PS interface.
[07:08] <Paragor> Ok that sounds good. How do I do that?
[07:08] <Parsley> paragor: just download a cracked photoshop torrent and use it on a windows machine
[07:08] <Slart> Paragor: just to make something clear here.. you have a copy of photoshop and want help running it in wine?
[07:08] <rubik_> Halo, looking for some assistance with overscan issues. Tried modifying my xorg file but no matter what i do, my modelines that i set does not appear under nvidia settings manager. Am using a Acer REVO with NV Ion
[07:08] <Slart> !piracy
[07:08] <ultraputz> uh oh! "piracy"
[07:08] <Paragor> FOr all the people sending me PMs I have no idea how to do that....
[07:09] <Devrethman> What's the easiest way to make ubuntu talk to a mac over network?
[07:09] <legend2440> Paragor: http://www.gimpshop.com/
[07:09] <ultraputz> someone is gonna get on a boat, and go steal photoshop and gold bullion?
[07:09] <Gouda> Devrethman. A good therapist
[07:09] <ultraputz> Devrethman -- in what respect?
[07:09] <Parsley> devrethman: same way they made mr ed talk, stick a carrot up its ass
[07:09] <Devrethman> I want to transfer files between my linux box and my mac and back.
[07:09] <ultraputz> i would say ssh/sftp, using fugu.app on the mac
[07:09] <Devrethman> would the easiest/best way be to use samba or NFS or something different?
[07:10] <ultraputz> dev -- ssh
[07:10] <Devrethman> kay
[07:10] <Devrethman> thanks
[07:10] <ultraputz> there's a slight penalty for the speed, because it's encrypted
[07:10] <ultraputz> but it's reliable, safe, doesn open the machine up to any extra "fun" :-)
[07:13] <Gouda> Hey Mindvirus. You around?
[07:13] <_Trinity_> hey all
[07:13] <fzrenzo> alguien habla español
[07:14] <Slart> !es | fzrenzo
[07:15] <_Trinity_> lol
[07:16] <hgerr3432> Hey everybody. Is there a command line way to change between XFCE and KDE; like the old switchdesk ?????
[07:16] <siavash> hi
[07:17] <hacker_kid> hey i get stuck in blender all the time (it wont switch to windowed screen), is there a keyboard shortcut to minimize the current window so i could switch back
[07:17] <siavash> just going to buy an ASUS P5Q motherboard today, but I'm not sure the integrated LAN controller will work properly
[07:18] <siavash> does any one have similar motherboard? ASUS P5Q?
[07:18] <the_gamer> hgerr3432, start 2 xserver and its ctrl+alt+f7 and ctrl+alt+f8
[07:19] <siavash> PLZ HELP !
[07:19] <Corsairs> siavash I do, and have had Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed,both found the nic card
[07:19] <the_gamer> siavash, had one... it burned only becaus... hey, don't cry that way
[07:19] <hgerr3432> wont that use tons of resources
[07:20] <siavash> Corsairs, the_gamer : Can I use integrated LAN controller in Ubuntu 9.04?
[07:20] <the_gamer> Corsairs, it has to, it's only another surface everthing else is the same
[07:20] <Adola> I would like to set up a "street" team for Ubuntu, I've heard of others around, and I'm on campus, a prime spot to start such.
[07:20] <the_gamer> siavash, why not?
[07:20] <Adola> Any information?
[07:20] <siavash> the_gamer : let me send you the link
[07:20] <the_gamer> Adola, what information?
[07:20] <the_gamer> siavash, no?
[07:21] <Adola> the_gamer: Um, somepage to start looking into how to start.  As in, getting some free CD's for distrobution
[07:21] <the_gamer> ah
[07:21] <siavash> the_gamer, Corsairs : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Asus_P5Q
[07:21] <konza> anyone knows how to setup a mail server--------- IMAP SERVER
[07:22] <Adola> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[07:22] <Adola> konza: Look into "postmail"
[07:22] <hgerr3432> how do i start kde and XFCE xserver through command line
[07:22] <the_gamer> Adola, perhaps https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ ?
[07:22] <Corsairs> hmm, never had any problems with my board, it is a P5QL-E
[07:23] <siavash> the_gamer, Corsairs : just in middle of ordering the ASUS P5Q, if its not support, will change it
[07:23] <Corsairs> although Kubuntu didnt find my sata setup now if I recall
[07:23] <Corsairs> but everything else seemed to work
[07:24] <siavash> unfortunately there isn't a good driver from ASUS for the LAN controller
[07:24] <Corsairs> its a fast rig with quad cores
[07:24] <siavash> only sound card included
[07:25] <siavash> the post has been last edited @  (last edited 2008-09-07 16:05:22 by piffeo)
[07:25] <siavash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Asus_P5Q
[07:25] <konza> Adola, whats postmail
[07:25] <Corsairs> I will probably upgrade this motherboard with Maximus extreme or something called like that, something that supports multi graphics cards
[07:26] <hgerr3432> how do i start kde and XFCE xserver through command line
[07:26] <siavash> Corsairs : CF/SLIed Mobos arent worth the money
[07:26] <siavash> Corsairs : you will get ~30% performance boost @ max
[07:26] <siavash> Corsairs : its better to buy a new GPU and have a cool system
[07:27] <Corsairs> yeah, but a big 28" monitor running here
[07:28] <konza> Adola, whats postmail
[07:28] <Corsairs> it can use it sometimes
[07:28] <Adola> 	
[07:28] <Adola> #ubuntu-kentucky
[07:28] <siavash> you should have a look at benchmarks
[07:28] <Adola> I'm sorry.
[07:28] <FloodBot2> Adola: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <Adola> konza: It's a STMP mail server.
[07:28] <hgerr3432> how do i start kde and XFCE xserver through command line
[07:28] <alien> hello, does Ubuntu disable the LDAP functionality in evolution by default, or am I unable to locate it?
[07:28] <siavash> CF/SLIed old cards are slower than newer cards
[07:28] <konza> Adola, did u mean SMTP mail server
[07:28] <siavash> its a waste of money
[07:29] <Adola> konza: Yessir.
[07:29] <siavash> for ex 2xATI 4750 will never beat a single 4890 in high res
[07:30] <konza> Adola, I dont know how to make it work... i installed IMAP SERVER.. but when i try to restart shorewall.... i get this message.........The firewall won't be started/stopped unless it is configured
[07:31] <Adola> I hate to do this but : man shorewall
[07:31] <siavash> which kernel [ver] Ubuntu 9.04 is using?
[07:32] <lianimator> in thunderbird using pop, can I sync deleted mails with the server?
[07:32] <siavash> 2.6.27?
[07:33] <lstarnes> siavash: 2.6.28
[07:33] <^Phantom^> Is someone trying to hack me?
[07:33] <^Phantom^> * Received a CTCP XCHAT-HACK-KEY-1936254 from ^Jester^
[07:34] <ultraputz> that's a ctcp request.
[07:34] <siavash> thanks lstarnes , theres romurs that LAN driver is included in higher versions 2.6.27 :)
[07:34] <ultraputz> it won hurt.
[07:34] <slichy> Theres no such "hack-program" in IRC, ^Phantom^
[07:34] <lstarnes> ^Phantom^: possibly, but I don't think that particular CTCP does anything
[07:34] <SimulianT> lab ryt
[07:34] <poyntz> how do I change the default firefox to shiretoko?
[07:35] <poyntz> just about every app I have opens up firefox instead of shiretoko
[07:35] <poyntz> it makes sense too
[07:35] <poyntz> because the default package will be the firefox one, not the firefox-3.5 one
[07:36] <siavash> Corsairs : yep, it looks the problem is fixed in the 9.04 :)
[07:36] <siavash> last post : http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20080624021821000&board_id=1&model=P5Q&page=3&count=28
[07:42] <taktam> exit
[07:42] <Burf> does ubuntu come with mp3 codecs?
[07:43] <Burf> and does divx run on ubuntu
[07:43] <ultraputz> the first is a one click install
[07:43] <ultraputz> the second yes
[07:44] <Burf> on the divx site it doesnt show any divx dowoad for linux?
[07:44] <ultraputz> oh, codecs for encoding divx ?
[07:44] <Burf> no playing
[07:44] <Burf> divx and xvid
[07:44] <ultraputz> vlc will def do it
[07:45] <Burf> wont vlc need the divx and xvid codecs tho?
[07:45] <ultraputz> and i believe gstreamer has support, as well (which means default video player supports it.)
[07:45] <ultraputz> vlc has it all in a single package
[07:45] <ultraputz> videolan.org
[07:45] <Burf> is vlc already installed as default
[07:45] <ultraputz> it's pretty cool.
[07:45] <ultraputz> it's like a swiss army knife for video.
[07:45] <Burf> awesome
[07:45] <Burf> i dont suppose gimp can open psd's can it?
[07:46] <milligan_> vlc isn't installed by default, but it's in the repositories
[07:46] <ultraputz> burf - sure can
[07:46] <Burf> really
[07:46] <Burf> wow
[07:46] <Burf> how does it compare feature wise
[07:46] <ultraputz> it's not photoshop
[07:46] <ultraputz> and it's weaker on type
[07:47] <ultraputz> but in terms of GSD, it's good.
[07:47] <ultraputz> after 1.5 years, i prefer it to photoshop
[07:48] <Burf> ive been missing out
[07:48] <milligan_> you were a photoshopuser before ?
[07:48] <milligan_> (ultraputz)
[07:48] <ultraputz> yup
[07:48] <Burf> yeah im a graphic designer (now and then)
[07:48] <ultraputz> i still am at work
[07:49] <milligan_> nice
[07:49] <Parsley> can anyone explain how to set up a dhcp and atftp server in order to pxe boot a client?
[07:49] <Burf> im trying hard to see why i am not using linux rather than windoze
[07:49] <ultraputz> familiarity.
[07:49] <Burf> its becoming more and more difficult
[07:49] <ultraputz> try a liveboot cd
[07:49] <ultraputz> just download it, boot off cd and try it
[07:50] <Burf> i am downloading now - can i use a dvd tho rather than cd?
[07:50] <ultraputz> i assume so
[07:50] <Burf> cool
[07:50] <jr_max> hi all
[07:50] <jr_max> can i ask something?
[07:50] <ultraputz> for $5.
[07:50] <Burf> do you need wine of momo to run visual studio?
[07:51] <Vinceman> is user root necessary?
[07:51] <ultraputz> if it works, that's how it would be done
[07:51] <ultraputz> or virtual machine
[07:51] <ultraputz> vince - generally not
[07:51] <bluejeans> jr_max: no
[07:51] <jr_max> ubuntu server have a GUI ?
[07:51] <ultraputz> command 'sudo' replaces root, functionally.
[07:51] <ultraputz> jr_max, no.
[07:51] <Burf> what about programming - am i gonna have to learn C++ if i wanna design anything custom for linux
[07:51] <milligan_> Burf, if I remember correctly, there's something called Mono or something like that that will let you develop .NET directly, without visual studio :)
[07:51] <ultraputz> you can install one
[07:51] <ultraputz> but it's bad practice to do so.
[07:52] <Vinceman> but an Administrator account cannot be deleted
[07:52] <Vinceman> it would leave the system unusable
[07:52] <ultraputz> vinceman -- it's not there to begin with.
[07:52] <Burf> cool
[07:52] <Vinceman> it is in my PC ultraputz
[07:52] <milligan_> Burf, depends what you are making and how advanced you want it :) For the big part though, you can just make scripts for whatever needs you have.
[07:52] <ultraputz> it's not an account you login to
[07:52] <ultraputz> it's an identity
[07:52] <ultraputz> like a placeholder
[07:52] <Vinceman> if it's not necessary I want it out
[07:52] <Burf> scripts in what language?
[07:52] <ultraputz> it is as an identity
[07:52] <Parsley> dont use it then
[07:53] <ultraputz> all of root's duties are delegated through the 'sudo' command
[07:53] <Parsley> you can log in as root, its possible
[07:53] <Burf> what like shell scripts u mean (batch files - like the old dos?)
[07:53] <Boohbah> Burf: depends on the application
[07:53] <ultraputz> an 'administrator' is one who has rootś full privileges via sudo.
[07:53] <milligan_> Burf, whatever really. php, bash, perl, ruby, python .. anything :)
[07:53] <ultraputz> burf - any language
[07:53] <Burf> i dont wanna go back t the 80s
[07:53] <Burf> php would be web based tho no?
[07:54] <milligan_> aye - but you can use the cli version on your terminal to perform system tasks.
[07:54] <Boohbah> none of those languages were around in the 80s
[07:54] <Burf> can you run php without installing a seperate server (local)
[07:54] <Parsley> burf: if you dont like doing 50-80% of the useful stuff through 80s terminals dont use linux
[07:54] <milligan_> Burf, yep
[07:54] <Newbuntu2> -
[07:55] <Burf> i thought thats what ubuntu was
[07:55] <Parsley> it is
[07:55] <Burf> linux without the constant need for shell windows
[07:55] <Parsley> oh no
[07:55] <Parsley> shells up the ass
[07:55] <milligan_> the shell windows are the power of linux
[07:55] <nibbler> Burf: there is not needs, there is possibilities
[07:55] <ultraputz> ok: think of it like this
[07:55] <Burf> but i can still install/run programs from desktop icons without shell?
[07:56] <Parsley> burf: if you wanna browse web, play games, write documents, dont need shell/terminal
[07:56] <ultraputz> windows is proof that there is no elegant GUI solution to system managment.
[07:56] <Parsley> burf: otherwise its terminals up the butt
[07:56] <Royall> Burf: you can install stuff using Add/Remove
[07:56] <ultraputz> it turns out the shell is about as good as it gets for complex systems.
[07:56] <nibbler> burf: sure you can! but to get all the power.... like automating a lot of stuff, which you can hardly do in, e.g. windows, you need shells
[07:56] <Royall> Burf: or a quick sudo apt-get install [program name here] in a terminal. it's easy to learn
[07:56] <Royall> but usually the program you want will be in Add/Remove
[07:57] <Parsley> burf: the translation is linux is still user-unfriendly towards the common user
[07:57] <Burf> so no desktop application launches then?
[07:57] <Parsley> plenty
[07:57] <ultraputz> burf - ?
[07:57] <Parsley> you can breeze through bread and butter apps
[07:57] <Parsley> like web browsing etc
[07:57] <K-Rich> but if you want to get a compicated comand yyou can do like : sudo apt-get autoremove `dpkg -l | apt-cache search bot sentry | awk '{ print $1; }'`
[07:57] <ultraputz> but you can put it on crack by doing launchers to scripts :-)
[07:57] <Royall> Ubuntu comes with Firefox, Open office (iirc), pidgin.. really all the basic apps you know and love
[07:57] <Burf> ive got no problem using shell windowws - i ust thought ubuntu took away the *need for them
[07:58] <Boohbah> Burf: sure you can do everything graphically if you want, but you are missing out on alot
[07:58] <Corsairs> Burf, think of commandline for advanced customization and fancy settings, but for most part all modern linux desktops are as easy to use as Mac or Microsoft
[07:58] <Parsley> burf: only for the bread and butter apps
[07:58]  * K-Rich burps, hi all :)
[07:58] <Burf> awesoem - sounds good
[07:58] <ultraputz> think is, once you get comfortable with shell, you can do "more with less"
[07:58] <ultraputz> it becomes it's own kind of familiar and simple.
[07:58] <ultraputz> there are things that blur the line like gnome-do
[07:59] <Royall> you can google really any problem and someone has probably asked it before
[07:59] <ultraputz> where basically have a gui driven by the keyboard to launch, search, etc.
[07:59] <Royall> gnome-do is amazing, learn to use it and you'll barely glace at the start menu again
[07:59] <Parsley> burf: 90% of the time i have to use terminal to do something, its a serious pain in the ass, but the thing is i have 0% chance of doing it in windows
[07:59] <Burf> such as?
[07:59] <Royall> I mapped gnome-do to windows - space
[07:59] <Royall> fun as anything
[07:59] <ultraputz> same here :-)
[08:00] <ultraputz> my most recent machine does not have cairo-dock on it as a consequence.
[08:00] <Corsairs> and once you get used to the commandline and its uses you would look at windows and think wow how awful that OS is
[08:00] <ultraputz> all gnome-do now.
[08:00] <K-Rich> Rayall: I concur, I love gnome-do
[08:00] <Royall> the problem though is that Geany, Glade3, and Gimp all start with a G :P
[08:00] <Burf> im not looking for a free version of windows anyway - got no problem learning a new system
[08:00] <ultraputz> with python and tools like glade, you can write graphical applications to control shell apps fairly easily.
[08:00] <Parsley> you can snazz up the terminal (command line), make it transparent, diff colors, jiggle like jello if that helps >.>
[08:01] <ultraputz> Parsley - Jello _always_ helps.
[08:01] <Burf> not on my spec - lol
[08:01] <Royall> Yep, I wrote an app that automates uploading .pdfs to this private bit torrent tracker I'm on
[08:01] <Glowball> Hi
[08:01] <Royall> I would never have been able to do it on Vista
[08:01] <Vinceman> why won't generating a random password for a user stick?
[08:01] <Burf> oh well as long as i can jiggle my windows im happy
[08:02] <ultraputz> burf - you can set your desktop on fire
[08:02] <Glowball> I was waiting for the Ubuntu community to update my Firefox to 3.5 through the Update Manager, but it's taking quite long now...
[08:02] <Burf> thats it then
[08:02] <ultraputz> there's a compiz plugin that lets you paint with fire.
[08:02] <Parsley> you will want to after trying linux the first time
[08:02] <Glowball> Is it going to change in the nearby future or are we supposed to update by ourselves?
[08:02] <zcat[1]> there's one that makes water ripples too
[08:02] <Royall> Burf: you can make your windows flip minimized, fold closed, and explode into view
[08:02] <Burf> ive tried YDL on ps3
[08:02] <Promethes> hi, how to tune performance of java applications (especially Netbeans 6.7) on Jaunty? Now on my AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ netbeans is little bit clumsy comparing to windows xp
[08:02] <ultraputz> Parsley - has to get opengl and all that happy first :-P
[08:02] <Parsley> glowball: you can do it yourself
[08:02] <Royall> Burf: make sure to get Simple CompizConfig
[08:03] <guillaume> french
[08:03] <Parsley> je ne parlais pas francais :(
[08:03] <Burf> are there any good firewalls for ubuntu
[08:03] <Glowball> Parsley: I know. But don't I lose all automatic updates then? Or just until the community updates to the same version as me?
[08:03] <amisam> enhanced zoom desktop is my favorite feature entirely
[08:03] <ultraputz> guillaume - #ubuntu-fr
[08:03] <guillaume> ok
[08:03] <pinoyskull> my titlebar in jaunty disappeared
[08:03] <Parsley> glowball: you should still get them, dunno why yours stopped
[08:03] <Royall> Parsley: how?
[08:04] <Royall> Parsley: how can you update to firefox 3.5 in advance
[08:04] <Burf> im assuming i still need a firewall
[08:04] <pinoyskull> now i cant move and resize window
[08:04] <Royall> Burf: I guess, but if you're behind a router I wouldn't worry
[08:04] <Parsley> royall: sudo apt-get install firefox and itll just see that its there but out of date and update itself
[08:04] <Burf> to control incoming and outgoing data - program access etc..
[08:04] <Glowball> Parsley: so the community *did* update to 3.5, but my Synaptic doesn't notice it?
[08:04] <Parsley> glowball: dunno if it did update
[08:04] <pinoyskull> anybody knows how to fix this?
[08:04] <guillaume> sepek englisk
[08:04] <Parsley> glowball: if it did, thats how to do it manually
[08:05] <Corsairs> think ubuntu has ufw and GUFW Gui for it
[08:05] <Burf> so u guys dont use firewals (sofwtare)
[08:05] <Parsley> ubuntu comes with default firewall burf
[08:05] <Burf> oh ok
[08:05] <Zylstra555> Hey, in Ubuntu 6.04, I am trying to sudo ./cdrom/VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run     and it keeps saying: /bin/sh Bad interpreter. Permission Denied.     What causes this?
[08:05] <Corsairs> I do, always
[08:05] <ultraputz> burf - cisco pix here :-)
[08:05] <Burf> snob... lol
[08:06] <Glowball> firefox is already the newest version.
[08:06] <Glowball> ^ 3.0.13
[08:06] <pinoyskull>  my titlebar in jaunty disappeared, how do i fix this?
[08:06] <Burf> better find mysef a disc then
[08:06] <Promethes> anyone knows how to make netbeans running faster on jaunty?
[08:07] <axscode> hi guys, how i may able to provide static IP from my wireless. coz its jumping to other network with DHCP...
[08:07] <Glowball> Anyway, auto-updating though the Synaptic Package Manager then...
[08:07] <Glowball> It *is* there, but it's not set as default..
[08:07] <K-Rich> pinoyskull: open a terminal alt-f1, login, pkill gnome-panel, press ctrl-d, and atl-f7
[08:08] <ultraputz> K-rich you for got to tell him to stand on one foot while he did it. :-)
[08:08] <amisam> I just recently updated my xorg.conf to handle my 5 button mouse but now I can't use (or remap the keys) to compiz setting "enhanced zoom desktop"  everything else seems to work
[08:08] <amisam> any ideas?
[08:09] <ultraputz> amisam - conflict?
[08:09] <pinoyskull> K-Rich:  did not fixed it
[08:10] <Burf> if i run it of this live disc - it wont touch my HDD's at all right?
[08:10] <Zylstra555> Burf: Unless you click the big "INSTALL" button, it will not, no.
[08:10] <amisam> ultraputz I am assuming so but I haven't been using compiz since back in the beryl days
[08:10] <Burf> lol
[08:10] <K-Rich> ultraputz: alt-f1 (opens terminal) login (simple) pkill gnome-panel (which kills it and auto restarts it) ctrl-d (to log out) and alt-f7 to return to X
[08:10] <Burf> thx
[08:10] <amisam> so I'm a little lost
[08:11] <Royall> Burf: nope, just boot to it and partition your drive in half
[08:11] <K-Rich> wht am I missing?
[08:11] <ale_> hello
[08:11] <Burf> i still have to partition before i can test it
[08:11] <ultraputz> nothing, k-rich, totally correct :-)
[08:11] <ale_> i need a little help
[08:11] <K-Rich> oops
[08:12] <K-Rich> ctrl-alt-f1
[08:12] <ale_> can anyone lend me a hand
[08:13] <pinoyskull> K-Rich:  that didnt help
[08:13] <K-Rich> pinoyskull: open a terminal ctrl-alt-f1, login, pkill gnome-panel, press ctrl-d, and alt-f7.... sorry my mistake
[08:13] <pinoyskull> K-Rich:  it reloaded the panel but still the same
[08:13] <ale_> im having problems with the panel too
[08:13] <ale_> in xubuntu
[08:13] <om26er1> my wireless and wired card both say device not managed
[08:13] <ultraputz> ale_, there's channel #xubuntu -- they know XFCE well
[08:13] <K-Rich> ahhh truble shooting, at least it's consistantly the panel
[08:15] <K-Rich> (I'm not sober sorry)
[08:15] <Burf> whats kubuntu?
[08:15] <K-Rich> ubuntu with kde interface
[08:15] <ultraputz> K-Rich, you know anything about lvm fun and games ?
[08:16] <Burf> oh right
[08:16] <Burf> can i still install kde onto the ubuntu install
[08:16] <K-Rich> yeah but not on lappy
[08:16] <drygrain> :D
[08:16] <Burf> how come
[08:16] <ultraputz> sure you can
[08:16] <Flannel> Burf: yeah, just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:16] <ultraputz> i did on my dell
[08:17] <K-Rich> yeah you can Burf
[08:17] <ultraputz> about 20 minutes later, i uninstalled it :-)
[08:17] <jr_max> cannot find any packet
[08:17] <Burf> cool - well im off to try this out then - no doubt il log back on in my new OS
[08:17] <jr_max> what should i do?
[08:17] <om26er1> wireless card says device not managed plz help
[08:18] <axscode> hi guys, i have launch the network management tool.  i cannot unlocked it.. is there anyway i can supply a new password to it?
[08:18] <pinoyskull> K-Rich:  i restarted my lappy and it fixed the problem :)
[08:18] <K-Rich> sweet
[08:19] <jr_max> how to install GUI on server?
[08:19] <K-Rich> I'm thinking before I install karmic I'm gonna try the hackintosh thing for a week or so
[08:19] <satya> hi can i get any help with video file issue, i am unable to play mp4 video file in movie player
[08:20] <satya> i am looking into this link : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414284
[08:20] <noise_> how can i make the 3d cube,how is the name of the program
[08:20] <natureshadow> satya: what player are you using?
[08:20] <natureshadow> noise_: compiz
[08:20] <Flannel> !ccsm | noise_
[08:20] <satya> natureshadow : movie player
[08:20] <ultraputz> noise -- blender
[08:20] <axscode> hi guys, i have a network management under Administration->Network,  but im having trouble to unlick it coz there's an unlock button. is there anyway i can change the password for this?
[08:20] <natureshadow> satya: There is no such thing like "movie player"
[08:20] <natureshadow> satya: Totem?
[08:21] <Flannel> jr_max: Just install an appropriate desktop metapackage (like ubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu-desktop) unless you want to just pick and choose your packages, then its more in depth
[08:21] <satya> its there
[08:21] <thinkertinker>  /msg NickServ identify asdf
[08:21] <satya> click on application >> sound and video >
[08:21] <satya> in that i can see Movie player
[08:21] <Flannel> thinkertinker: You'll want to change that password (and try again)
[08:21] <jr_max> can i run gnome or kde on ubuntu server?
[08:21] <satya> about to hear the sound but no video
[08:21] <prince_jammys> satya: the gnome menus show generic names for apps, strangely. the video player that comes with gnome is Totem.
[08:21] <unimatrix9> hello there
[08:22] <natureshadow> satya: uh ..... why did they remove the name fro mthat :o
[08:22] <unimatrix9> would ubuntu server be an different channel?
[08:22] <prince_jammys> it's to "make things easier" allegedly.
[08:22] <Flannel> unimatrix9: #ubuntu-server does exist, but this channel is appropriate as well
[08:22] <noise_> thanks,,ubuntu is great
[08:22] <satya> i am using ubuntu 8.04
[08:22] <natureshadow> satya: Then you are missing a codec
[08:22] <natureshadow> Is 8.04 LTS :o ?
[08:22] <Flannel> natureshadow: yes
[08:22] <lucas__> hey
[08:22] <natureshadow> Flannel: ah ok ;)
[08:23] <unimatrix9> is there an better webpage for support of ebox, its rather basic what i find on ubuntu support site, any hwo to some where?
[08:23] <lucas__> i try to meet my web cam to my system
[08:23] <natureshadow> satya: Doesn't totem ask you to install a codec package?
[08:23] <satya> nope
[08:23] <K-Rich> I love compiz
[08:23] <satya> its not giving any option
[08:23] <thinkertinker> hi my jaunty's clock is always showing wrong time..though i correct it..it gets wrong after restart
[08:23] <satya> how do i install codec
[08:23] <satya> i tried playing same file in vlc
[08:23] <satya> it didn't work
[08:23] <natureshadow> satya: I just see the link you posted ... did you try what is mentioned there?
[08:23] <ultraputz> try movieplayer
[08:23] <ultraputz> if it doesn't take, it should bring up a requester to search
[08:24] <satya> same thing able to hear the sound but no display
[08:24] <lucas__> i read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-913832.html and i use this command ffmpeg -f video4linux -s 320x240 -b 600k -r 25 -i /dev/video0 -f mpeg test.mpeg the result is in http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10172 . What is the problem
[08:24] <ultraputz> satya, you may have to extract and re-encode the video track
[08:25] <satya> nature : but i am unable to find video tab in preferences
[08:25] <satya> just audio and display
[08:25] <satya> any idea
[08:26] <ultraputz> ffmpeg?
[08:26] <dfred> I had networking working on my LAN but then installed samba4 and now one PC cant see the other. What went wrong and how can I fix or undo this? Would uninstalling it make things worse?
[08:26] <amisam> what are you trying to play?
[08:26] <amisam> realmedia?
[08:27] <satya> amisam : i am trying to play a mp4 video file
[08:27] <satya> its gives sound but no display
[08:27] <tm> hi
[08:27] <amisam> vlc should play it
[08:27] <satya> i tried
[08:27] <arnab_das> can wicd manager be used for configuring lan settings as well?
[08:27] <satya> it didn't work
[08:27] <satya> do i need to install any codecs
[08:28] <chuuk> vlc comes with it's own i think (?) so you shouldn't have to
[08:28] <arnab_das> yup vlc doesnt need any codecs
[08:28] <ultraputz> if vlc can't play it, it's gotta be something funky
[08:28] <arnab_das> u could try mplayer as well
[08:28] <amisam> vlc does but I always install the codecs as well
[08:28] <satya> i tried both
[08:28] <satya> it didn't work
[08:28] <amisam> (Iuse many players for various task)
[08:29] <satya> does vlc and mplayer support mp4. filer
[08:29] <arnab_das> whats the format of the file? sorry i joined the discussion late
[08:29] <arnab_das> yup it does
[08:29] <amisam> I like vlc because you can make the audio up to 400% louder
[08:29] <arnab_das> agree with that
[08:30] <binarymutant> libnotify-Message: Error getting spec version  <-- anyone know a fix?
[08:30] <satya> arnab : MPEG-4 video (video/mp4)
[08:30] <satya> after installing vlc do i need to reboot the computer ?
[08:31] <lstarnes> satya: usually, no
[08:31] <ultraputz> nope
[08:31] <thinkertinker> why does my ubuntu's clock change after every restart??
[08:31] <satya> i don't think it require
[08:31] <mandiri> mewanez
[08:31] <ultraputz> thinkertinker, network update
[08:31] <Flannel> thinkertinker: Are you dualbooting with Windows by any chance?
[08:31] <mandiri> ...............
[08:31] <satya> do u have any other player for mp4 files
[08:31] <ultraputz> satya - you could try realplayer if it supports it
[08:32] <amisam> you will have to ask one of the purist if your not wanting to add the good the bad and the ugly codecs
[08:32] <arnab_das> try using real player
[08:33] <satya> ok let me install real player
[08:33] <arnab_das> can wicd manager be used for configuring lan settings as well?
[08:33] <ultraputz> and wash your hands when you're done touching it.
[08:33] <noise_> hi can someone help,i am going to learn network administration,but i dont knoe if the program there ise usefull ,can anyone tell me an opinion?
[08:33] <noise_> http://www.harryfultz.edu.al/kolegji/adminrrjetpro.html
[08:33] <ultraputz> arnab_das, don't think so
[08:33] <lucas__> hey
[08:33] <lucas__> pls help
[08:33] <arnab_das> well since nothing else is working
[08:33] <arnab_das> ...
[08:33] <thinkertinker> Flannel no.. only ubuntu in my harddisk
[08:34] <arnab_das> ultraputz: since nothing else seems to be working...
[08:34] <dfred> I had networking working on my LAN but then installed samba4 and now one PC cant see the other. What went wrong and how can I fix or undo this? Would uninstalling it make things worse?
[08:34] <noise_> ?
[08:34] <ultraputz> noise_,  you will need to be more specific
[08:34] <ultraputz> if you want a curriculum suggestion, you need to figure out what kind of networking you want to learn about
[08:35] <ultraputz> it's a broad topic.
[08:35] <noise_> cisco
[08:35] <noise_> the program of the school is this http://www.harryfultz.edu.al/kolegji/adminrrjetpro.html
[08:35] <ultraputz> noise: look up cisco certifications, and see the order required to get what youw ant, then find materials to prepare for them, used, or on certain kinds of sites we don't talk about on this channel.
[08:36] <noise_> ok
[08:36] <thinkertinker> ultraputz how to disable time update from network?/
[08:36] <obhk> probably a stupid question, but is it possible to start X in a tty console (Ctrl-Alt-F2)?  For example just to be able to view a pdf?
[08:36] <Flannel> thinkertinker: It *might* be that your CMOS battery is dead, so the hardware clock won't survive a reboot, but this seems unlikely
[08:36] <ultraputz> right click the clock
[08:36] <binarymutant> obhk, startx  is that what your looking for?
[08:36] <ultraputz> and it should have an options / prefs option
[08:37] <ultraputz> erm
[08:37] <ultraputz> no
[08:37] <thinkertinker> Flanel th eclock doesn't reset.. it just lags behind or so..
[08:37] <ultraputz> open time and date control panel
[08:37] <Flannel> thinkertinker: It resets when you boot, and then slowly drifts as the computer stays on? (and then sets next boot?) or what?
[08:38] <Adil> for the life of me i cant get my flash to boot up.. i used unetbootin to create a live usb disk
[08:38] <obhk> binarymutant: ah, probably, although it says Server is already active for display 0 (my Ctrl-Alt-F7 I suppose?)
[08:38] <ultraputz> there's an option under "time zone"
[08:38] <Adil> the partition is active.. and is in fat 32
[08:38] <ultraputz> configuration: manual, or network
[08:38] <ultraputz> select manual
[08:38] <Adil> any suggestions please?
[08:38] <ultraputz> that will shut it up
[08:38] <thinkertinker> Flannel no.. its ok when my computer is up and running.. but when i restart the clock lags behind
[08:39] <ultraputz> dying clock battery?
[08:39] <ultraputz> or network updte issues.
[08:39] <thinkertinker> Flannel may be my CMOS battery is  dead and the lag is the time i keep my computer off
[08:39] <binarymutant> obhk, I'm not sure how to run multiple X servers without xphyr
[08:40] <Adil> hmm its a 8 gig flash drive
[08:41] <Adil> could the big size be causing problems?
[08:41] <thinkertinker> ultraputz how to check if my time is updated from network??
[08:41] <ultraputz> scroll up and read my instructions. :-)
[08:42] <thinkertinker> Flannel i will check my CMOS battery after next shutdown
[08:42] <computer_> how do i reset or reinstall my sound back to default?
[08:43] <Adil> ultraputza.. do you have a couple of minutes perhaps?
[08:43] <Adil> i meant ultraputz
[08:43] <ultraputz> yeah, what's up ?
[08:44] <Gruff> Hi not sure if I am in the right place for ubuntu help.
[08:44] <Adil> i cant seem to make my flashdrive bootable with ubuntu
[08:44] <Adil> i used unetbootin
[08:44] <Adil> flash drive is fat 32, active partition
[08:44] <Flannel> Gruff: You are, how can we help you today?
[08:44] <thinkertinker> Gruff You are at the best and right place from my experience
[08:44] <Adil> i have a gigabyte motherboard
[08:44] <obhk> Gruff: sure you are
[08:45] <Gruff> Cool beans.  I am experiencing nasty choppy video with Hulu at full screen.  Wasn't happening in the previous version of Ubuntu.  Now I am running Jaunty J and it is a royal pain
[08:46] <amisam> put grub two on it and you can just mount the iso
[08:46] <ultraputz> adil - hrm
[08:46] <ultraputz> adil - i honestly don't know
[08:46] <Adil> what do you mean amisam?
[08:46] <Adil> hmm
[08:46] <Adil> i dont have any blank cds.. and windows 7 effed up my grub
[08:46] <Adil> cant make a live cd
[08:46] <ultraputz> you don't have to
[08:47] <Adil> how would i reinstall grub then?
[08:47] <thinkertinker> Adil i had such a problem and i needed to upgrade my BIOS
[08:47] <Adil> thinkertinker did you have a gigabyte motherboard?
[08:47] <issam> bt
[08:47] <Adil> i actually just bought this
[08:48] <thinkertinker> Adil i have a INtel
[08:48] <issam> any one use bachtrack?
[08:49] <Adil> ultraputz how would i reinstall grub then?
[08:49] <gandalfcome> how do i inspect so libraries. i can't remember the name of the tool
[08:50] <lstarnes> gandalfcome: it might be eu-readelf
[08:52] <gandalfcome> i found it its otool. how do i find which arch the so is
[08:52] <obhk> binarymutant: I've installed xephyr and googled a bit; could you give me a hint on how to start?
[08:53] <Gruff> This is my very first attempt at a chat session.  Must say is is confusing.
[08:54] <Shoplifter> why is it confusing?
[08:54] <Shoplifter> you mean using irc?
[08:54] <_ala> use dlopen to load one share library, it returns errno 25, Not a typewriter, what does it mean?
[08:54] <arand_> what would cause command "date" or "date -R" to not give any output?
[08:54] <Gruff> Using anything.  1300+ people in one room?  The mind boggles.
[08:54] <adante> how do i find out which modules are using a particular module?
[08:55] <un4m31> What would cause a input output error while installing ubuntu
[08:55] <AnNahar> HELLO FRIENDS
[08:56] <Myrtti> AnNahar: hello.
[08:57] <Andorin> Gruff: The thing about well-populated channels like this is that only a fraction of the users are paying attention at one time.
[08:57] <Dday> How do i rip a cd to linux?
[08:57] <burf> well i got it up and runing
[08:57] <burf> and so far so good - quite fast too - v. suprised
[08:57] <gaurav> !samba
[08:57] <zvacet> Dday :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[08:57] <obhk> Dday: Audio CD Extractor in the menu Applications > Sound and video
[08:58] <burf> probem tho - my screen res wont go above 1024x768 (i ussualy have 1280x1024) any ideas ? is it a driver issue?
[08:59] <gaurav> hello every one
[08:59] <Gruff> I guess I don't get it.  You have to read all this superfluous junk to talk to someone?
[08:59] <zvacet> ! hi | gaurav
[08:59] <computer_> how do i reset or reinstall my sound back to default?
[09:00] <binarymutant> obhk, sorry; xeyphyr -ac -br -screen 800x600   and then set the display inside of that with DISPLAY=:1.0
[09:00] <gaurav> i am having problems with the permissions for making folders share in linux and making them accesseable in the windows computers  i am having administrator error "net usershare' returned error 255
[09:00] <gaurav> so any suggestion and help would be appriciated
[09:00] <Dday> obhk, there is no audio cd extractor?
[09:00] <Gy0b4OWNZ> hello!
[09:00] <Andorin> Dday: Try inserting the CD and picking through the list of options it brings up.
[09:01] <binarymutant> libnotify-Message: Error getting spec version  <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:01] <c0ky> wew
[09:01] <obhk> Dday: really? and if you press Alt-F2 and start typing Audio CD Extractor, does it show up in the list?
[09:02] <zvacet> computer_ :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012
[09:02] <gaurav> ?
[09:02] <Ali_nz> evening all
[09:02] <gaurav>  i am having problems with the permissions for making folders share in linux and making them accesseable in the windows computers  i am having administrator error "net usershare' returned error 255
[09:03] <Ali_nz> Is it possible to make a ddrescue image, and then using something like, gparted resize the image?
[09:03] <Ali_nz> well, resize the partition within the image
[09:04]  * c0ky is away (Offline.........)
[09:06] <wers> other than thewidgetfactory, what app can i use to test themes? :)
[09:08] <Dday> obhk, yes but there is something called open disk copier?
[09:08] <Gruff> If this place is an example of a chat room I guess I am underwhelmed.  Last time I try this.
[09:08] <Dday> Gruff
[09:08] <Dday> This is a help room, not really a chat room lol
[09:09] <Gruff> You have got to be kidding.  What help?
[09:09] <Dday> Help for Ubuntu /=
[09:09] <NorwayGeek> keep in it's night time in the united states at this moment so not much help to get.
[09:09] <Myrtti> Gruff: for chatting you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <b3rz3rk3r> who needs help with what? what? who? where?
[09:10] <Myrtti> Gruff: this is only for people giving and receiving help for their Ubuntu
[09:10] <b3rz3rk3r> Gruff, whats up?
[09:10] <Gruff> Right I asked a question quite some time ago.  No help or even a response.
[09:11] <zvacet> !patience
[09:11] <Myrtti> Gruff: are you using 64 or 32 bit Ubuntu?
[09:11] <gaurav>  i am having problems with the permissions for making folders share in linux and making them accesseable in the windows computers  i am having administrator error "net usershare' returned error 255
[09:12] <Ali_nz> whats the command to format a partiotion with linux FS?
[09:12] <Dday> Aaah
[09:13] <Dday> So i just installed audio cd extractor
[09:13] <b3rz3rk3r> Ali_nz, there are many different File Systems used in Linux, which one are you trying to use?
[09:13] <Dday> And it has my cd, how do i rip to mp3?
[09:13] <CatEater> i have a windows box, but i'd like to switch to ubuntu. what can i test ubuntu on?
[09:13] <zvacet> Ali_nz : from live CD or from gparted cd select partition and mark it as ext3
[09:14] <obhk> CatEater: you can first try a live cd to check if all works well
[09:14] <DJones> CatEater: You can download an ubuntu livecd which you can use to boot your computer up with, that will run from the cd and in memory without making any changes to your hard drive, it'll let you test it before you install
[09:14] <CatEater> obhk: on what platform?
[09:15] <Ali_nz> The most commonly used linux fs? ext2 or 3?
[09:15] <CatEater> i don't have a physical computer that's available for booting to a livecd
[09:15] <obhk> just windows: burn the cd, put it in your cd-drive and reboot, your computer should recognize it
[09:15] <zvacet> Ali_nz : ext3
[09:15] <CatEater> cd drive?!
[09:15] <Dday> obhk, i had to install audio cd extractor from repositories
[09:15] <CatEater> i have to buy a cd drive?
[09:16] <CatEater> what about virtual machines?
[09:16] <b3rz3rk3r> Ali_nz, these days ext3 for OS drives, and ext2 for storage
[09:16] <jdb> CatEater: run ubuntu in virtualbox then
[09:16] <CatEater> virtualbox doesn't work though
[09:16] <CatEater> i can't get the window to show up
[09:16] <jdb> vmware then
[09:16] <Dday> I wish to rip the cd so it become mp3 with the bitrate being v0, Does anyone know how to do this?
[09:17] <gaurav>  i am having problems with the permissions for making folders share in linux and making them accesseable in the windows computers  i am having administrator error "net usershare' returned error 255
[09:17] <CatEater> ok, which version of vmware do i want?
[09:17] <jdb> CatEater: the last one
[09:17] <CatEater> the last one on where?
[09:17] <lianimator> is googlemail having problems or has my downloading of my whole inbox provoked it to blocked me??
[09:17] <CatEater> google isn't showing me a "last vmware"
[09:17] <DJones> CatEater: Does you computer support booting from a usb stick?
[09:17] <Ali_nz> ok
[09:17] <CatEater> no
[09:17] <Ali_nz> thanks guys
[09:18] <Ali_nz> I dont it
[09:18] <CatEater> as i said, no booting from anything
[09:18] <Ali_nz> dont=done
[09:18] <boza> Hello everybody, Could anyone please tell me how to scan with ubuntu 9.04? I've tried my UMAX ASTRA 4100 but ubuntu did not find it?
[09:18] <zvacet> Dday : go to the system>preferences>main menu maybe it is not checked I think it comes by default
[09:18] <CatEater> i have a windows box, and rebooting it isn't an option
[09:18] <un4m31> What would cause a input output error while installing ubuntu?
[09:18] <jdb> un4m31: a bad cd?
[09:18] <un4m31> ok
[09:19] <Ali_nz> so back to the original question, can I resize a partition while working on the image of it?
[09:20] <b3rz3rk3r> Ali_nz, you need to unmount the drives you are working on first. If you are changing your OS drive then you will need to get hold of Gparted Livecd and boot using that to edit your OS partition
[09:22] <boza> Could anyone please tell me how to scan with ubuntu 9.04? I've tried my UMAX ASTRA 4100 but ubuntu did not find it?
[09:23] <jdb> boza: i dont know that scanner, but scanning should be possible via sane in ubuntu
[09:23] <Guest378> hi ive tryed to install ubuntu on a homemachine and needed somebody to test the ip via putty
[09:23] <Guest378> could somebody please try for me?
[09:23] <Ali_nz> b3rz3rk3r: Nah, I have got a mates hard disk, 160Gb, I want to clone to a 120Gb HDD (he has hardly used any of the 160 so in theory it will fit but I need to resize partitions first)
[09:24] <Ali_nz> b3rz3rk3r: I suppose I could resize the partition before i do the cloning.....?
[09:24] <b3rz3rk3r> Ali_nz, if you are cloning it then yes you will need to resize before you can clone it to a smaller drive
[09:25] <un|matrix> stupid Ubanto.... rebooted my system again -_-
[09:25] <b3rz3rk3r> Ali_nz, otherwise you can just mount it and copy all the files if you dont need the MBR table
[09:25] <burf> do i need to install drivers if i have an ATI card?
[09:25] <burf> i have a screen but the res wont go as high as it should (as it does on xp)
[09:26] <gaurav> how to share in windows from linux folders
[09:26] <b3rz3rk3r> burf, yes
[09:26] <burf> does ati support linux?
[09:26] <b3rz3rk3r> !ati | burf
[09:26] <burf> u beauty
[09:26] <b3rz3rk3r> ;)
[09:26] <pshr> hello any idea on how to cut short the path displayed in the terminal like if i do a cd to some directory say cd /opt/var/www  i get like user@opt/var/www$ can i just get user@www$
[09:26] <un|matrix> how do i debug random system reboots in linux?
[09:26] <ysouyno> !ati | burf
[09:27] <b3rz3rk3r> ysouyno, just backing me up?
[09:27] <b3rz3rk3r> :p
[09:27] <gaurav> any help
[09:27] <burf> is there a quick way to get terminal up?
[09:27] <burf> hotkey
[09:27] <ysouyno> lol
[09:28] <b3rz3rk3r> burf, i have set Ctrl+z in keyboard shortcuts, as i find that easy
[09:28] <jdb> pshr: change $PS1
[09:28] <dwatkins> I use super+t for a terminal shortcut because ctrl+z is useful inside a terminal sometimes
[09:29] <pshr> jdb, dint get you ?
[09:29] <jdb> pshr: what do you mean?
[09:29] <b3rz3rk3r> burf, just dont do it in another program as that is assigned to Undo usually.
[09:29] <pshr> how do i use it for the purpose ?
[09:29] <un|matrix> there's no way right? i mean how crappy does the OS have to be to randomly reboot... only linux is capable of doing it so often
[09:30] <pshr> jdb, ?
[09:30] <dwatkins> pshr: see the "PROMPTING" section of the bash manpage for details of \W and \w in the PS1 variable, which defines your prompt.
[09:30] <Boohbah> pshr: export PS1='\u@\h:\W\$ '
[09:30] <kweez> pshr >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31247
[09:30] <Boohbah> pshr: set it in your ~/.bashrc
[09:30] <pshr> thanks guys
[09:31] <jdb> pshr: export PS1='\u@\h:\W\$ '
[09:31] <Boohbah> jdb: too slow
[09:31] <jdb> Boohbah: sorry :)
[09:31] <Boohbah> jdb: :)
[09:31] <pshr> thank you :)
[09:32] <burf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:32] <coz_> hey guys  is there a command to empty recent documents?
[09:32] <burf> i have done the lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:32] <burf> and it shows my card
[09:32] <Boohbah> b3rz3rk3r: if your computer is randomly rebooting then there's a problem
[09:33] <Boohbah> coz_: what recent documents?
[09:33] <burf> its an old rage 128 pro so does that mean (according to this page) i need to remove the fgrlx or not?
[09:33] <coz_> Boohbah,  in gnome
[09:33] <zvacet> coz_ : panel>places>clean recent files
[09:33] <coz_> zvacet,  yes I know that part :) I was wondering if there is a command to do this though
[09:34] <burf> oh now firefox has crashed
[09:34] <burf> great
[09:34] <zvacet> coz_ . I don´t know that one  :@
[09:34] <boza> Ubuntu 9.04 dosn't detect UMAX ASTRA  4100 scanner. Could anyone help me please?
[09:35] <coz_> zvacet,  no problem   apparently no on else does either :)
[09:35] <Boohbah> !scanner
[09:35] <zvacet> coz_ : why do you need it for
[09:35] <burf> when i run the sudo remove, it says its not installed so not removed
[09:35] <Ali_nz> b3rz: I was gonna image the disk to a file, then resize, then clone from the resize image.....
[09:35] <burf> so what ese can i try to get the driver working correctly?
[09:36] <burf> thx
[09:36] <axscode> hi guys, anyone knows how can i  install apt-get from scratch? trying to work-out an embedded box, ive been googling but i found how to use apt-get.. not how to install apt-get it self..
[09:36] <coz_> zvacet,  I dont  I just want to see if there is a command for this to add to the list of   "usually unknown " commands
[09:36] <zvacet> coz_ :  8-)
[09:36] <Dday> How do i check the model of my cd drive?
[09:37] <coz_> zvacet,  is seems there should be one  but I have not had luck finding it in two weeks :)
[09:38] <zvacet> coz_ : now I´m iterested you will share it don´t you (if you find it)
[09:38] <coz_> zvacet, absolutely :)
[09:39] <Saxon> anyone here use Opera 10?
[09:39] <ultraputz> not without a gun pointed at my head.
[09:39] <coz_> Saxon,  I do not sorry
[09:39] <ultraputz> :-)
[09:39] <ultraputz> goodnight folks
[09:39] <simplexio> Saxon: according stats: 1-2 percent
[09:39] <Saxon> When I downloaded Opera 10, it said Unite was preinstalled, but I cannot find where it says it should be.
[09:40] <Saxon> And I am too stupid to figure out how to connect to irc.opera.com
[09:40] <simplexio> Saxon: if you are using irssi then its '/connect irc.opera.com'
[09:41] <Saxon> XChat
[09:41] <simplexio> Saxon: probably works on other irc clients too
[09:41] <lstarnes> Saxon: ctrl+T then /server irc.opera.com
[09:42] <Saxon> all right, thanks for showing me how
[09:43] <nooneelse> hi everyone, the icon of my HIBERNATE from "shutdown the computer" screen is missing, how can I fix it ?
[09:43] <zvacet> now I see Opera 10 is out  I will install it  brb
[09:45] <nooneelse> the icon just do not appear
[09:45] <Dday> How do you install lame?
[09:45] <burf> hey guys can anyone help me get my ati drivers correctly installed and working - im a bit lost
[09:45] <nooneelse> Dday: lame ?
[09:45] <burf> currently reading through: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:46] <nooneelse> Dday: how do I install lame ?
[09:46] <Vitus> join #socratima
[09:46] <Dday> The audio codec nooneelse
[09:46] <burf> i have a RAGE 128 Pro (old i know)
[09:46] <burf> 1. ive done the lspci -nn | grep VGA   -   and it recognizes the card
[09:47] <lunix> I want to use a computer without GUI for music, fotos, movies, email and chat. So far I have found some programs to use: mutt for e-mail, mplayer for music and video, fbi for fotos. My only problem now is that i cant make the framebuffer work correctly. I have UN-blacklisted the framebuffer drivers for my graphic card, also tried vesa-framebuffer and vga16 framebuffer. nothing works, and fbi needs framebuffer fb0 to display graphics in console.  any hints and advic
[09:47] <burf> 2. ive done glxinfo |grep vendor and it says vendor string is SGI VA Linux Systems
[09:47] <burf> so does that mean its using the correct driver?
[09:48] <burf> the Free, Open Source driver for many ATI graphics cards
[09:48] <burf> if it is then all should be ok, no?
[09:48] <burf> but for some reason i cant go higher than 1024x768 and i cant enable any screen effects
[09:49] <burf> any help would be great
[09:50] <Gelegrodan> sounds like wrong driver then burf
[09:50] <burf> should i try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:51] <Gelegrodan> try it
[09:51] <morph> cant recording audio from flashplayer, i use pulse, how can i do?
[09:52] <burf> Enable the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the 'Hardware Drivers' (System->Hardware drivers), then do:
[09:52] <burf> its not in system>hardware drivers?
[09:52] <burf> another screen?
[09:53] <burf> found it
[09:54] <burf> no propriety drivers are in use on this system
[09:54] <netcrash> Hello , what's the best tool to setup a vpn client to a l2tp ipsec server ?
[09:56] <burf> sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko  - no such file or directory?
[09:57] <burf> are these issues only with ati cards?
[09:57] <burf> might change to the on board card
[09:58] <kindofabuzz> i have a laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X300. But certain games and apps just run like crap. No restricted drivers showing up for it. What can I do?
[09:58] <mrmikehicks> my first time on here,
[09:58] <zaggynl> kindofabuzz: ask here, search ubuntu forums, google
[09:59] <kindofabuzz> zaggynl, i did, did that, and of course
[09:59] <mrmikehicks> maybe someone knows: I'm having problems installing a flash player plugin for firefox, on ubuntu machine.
[10:00] <mrmikehicks> I'd give you the version of ubuntu if I knew how to find it.
[10:01] <sprink> Hello. Can anyone help fix my sound? I have a pretty popular sound card thats been around for a while, very surprised it doesn't work by default.
[10:01] <zaggynl> kindofabuzz: do you have the fglrx driver installed?
[10:01] <zaggynl> sprink: which card
[10:01] <zaggynl> x-fi?
[10:01] <sprink> zaggynl: 02:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
[10:02] <kindofabuzz> zaggynl, i guess because compiz works so... ATI Mobility Radeon X300
[10:02] <sprink> zaggynl: Had the card working in debian like 2 years ago. That's why I am surprised it doesn't work in ubuntu by default
[10:03] <zaggynl> kindofabuzz: try uninstalling fglrx and going with available opensource drivers, disable compiz as well
[10:03] <zaggynl> sprink: please describe "not working"
[10:03] <lunix> mrmikehicks: do you want the adobe flash player or open source one?
[10:03] <randoms> hi. i am currently logged in as a normal user. how can i start an application directly from terminal as root, wtihout the su first? just start it,and tell it that root is running it in one command
[10:03] <sprink> zaggynl: I can't hear any sound, from any applicaitons
[10:04] <zaggynl> sprink: volumes in alsamixer are turned up and are not muted?
[10:04] <sprink> zaggynl: correct, and speakers plugged in ;)
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:05] <zaggynl> sprink: what happens if you try plugging the cable into different ports on the soundcard
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> can anyone please tell me where the systemwide PATH is defined. I know it can be added to in ~/.bashrc but is there one for the system as a whole??
[10:05] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: /etc/environment ?
[10:05] <zaggynl> /etc/profile
[10:06] <zaggynl> damnit, irc support is addicting
[10:06]  * zaggynl goes back to actual work
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: you got it dude :D
[10:06] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: ;)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: thanks for the replys guys
[10:07] <negev> is there an easy way to build the ubuntu apache2/php5 packages with debugging symbols so i can use gdb effectively in the event of a segfault?
[10:07] <negev> i'm trying to debug php but i just get "(no debugging symbols found)"
[10:07] <erUSUL> negev: install the dbg versions of the packages ?
[10:08] <sprink> zaggynl: they are in the right ports. You want me to put them in the wrong ones? :\
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: how worrying is this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/81531
[10:08] <timc> hey - i use audacious to play music - it handles .apes and .cues decently enough
[10:09] <timc> but now it's broken, and i'm not sure why
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> NightMayor: pidgin, windows xp, uk. Want to know anything else?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> timc: reinstall it
[10:09] <mehedi> hi
[10:09] <timc> i've purged it, but no same problem
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> timc: if that fails you could try renaming the ~/.audacious folder (or similar) then relaunch to get a stock profile
[10:10] <NightMayor> sorry just testing chatzilla
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> NightMayor: np
[10:10] <mehedi> hi how i can install exe type software in ubuntu?
[10:10] <lstarnes> !wine | mehedi
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: try to use linux apps as not all programs run well or even at all via wine
[10:11] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: typo « gksudo /etc/environment » --> « gksudo gedit /etc/environment ». a quick test for path is « echo $PATH »... something is wrong with the /root folder maybe (it lacks the basrc and profile etc)
[10:11] <Radtoo> mehedi: other than that, you can also virtualize a full windows in ubuntu using virtualbox and the like, if wine doesn't work and you care enough...
[10:11] <mehedi> i have heard i have to buy wine.is it true?
[10:12] <Radtoo> mehedi: no.
[10:12] <NightMayor> no
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: well i'll make sure he has the right stuff in the file first then jump fom there
[10:12] <kripz> Im having issues connecting to my wireless router, NetworkManager can see the SSID but cant connect. How can i start debugging?
[10:13] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:13] <mehedi> is any anti virus software needed for ubuntu?
[10:13] <jdb> mehedi: no
[10:14] <timc> ActionParsnip, theres pretty much nothing to rename, other than the .local skins
[10:14] <mehedi> Reallly?
[10:14] <timc> mehedi, really
[10:14] <Lonesword> SO no viruses in unix?
[10:14] <lstarnes> Lonesword: there aren't any major ones in the wild
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> timc: cd ~; ls -a
[10:14] <timc> no Lonesword, but don't worry about it
[10:14] <Lonesword> Thanks
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Lonesword: yes they exist, they just arent wild
[10:14] <Radtoo> kripz: uh, I may be a bit hasty, but my experience is that if networkmanager doesn't work it may be easier to use wicd instead... nm is a bit of a problem imo. just a suggestion tho
[10:15] <lstarnes> Lonesword: there are things like rookits that are more common, but not nearly as common as viruses on windows
[10:15] <mehedi> jdb where r u from?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: you can instal it and viri do exist, they just arent wild at all
[10:15] <dare> unix viruses are safer than windows viruses because they are peer-reviewed
[10:15] <jdb> mehedi: belgium
[10:15] <Lonesword> How do u whisper?
[10:15] <Myrtti> Lonesword: /msg nick
[10:15] <jdb> kripz: check daemon.log
[10:15] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Is this whispering?
[10:15] <Lonesword> Myrtti: U mean this?
[10:16] <lstarnes> Lonesword: irc has no technical definition of "whispering"
[10:16] <timc> audacious might be weird in this respect - theres nothing ActionParsnip. i did strace it, but i don't understand enough to get anything from this http://pastebin.com/m2dbd2042
[10:16] <dare> I thought /notice was used for whispering
[10:16] <lstarnes> Lonesword: what you just did is often referred to as highlighting
[10:16] <mehedi> is this chat room is used only for discussion about ubuntu?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Lonesword: /msg will send the person a message outside of the channel
[10:16] <lstarnes> mehedi: yes
[10:17] <negev> im confused, im running a 'hardy' box, it has php 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.6, yet the only version available on ddebs is 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.7  why is that?
[10:17] <mehedi> no other use?
[10:17] <negev> is hardy out of date now?
[10:17] <Radtoo> mehedi: there's #ubuntu-offtopic and such for other things...
[10:17] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Thanks......how can u compile c++ programs in uuntu? I installed g++ and when I try to compile, I get the error message that 'cout' isn't declared...but I've already inlcuded iostream.h in the program
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: yep pure support
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for all other chats
[10:17] <mehedi> how can i chat using ubuntu?
[10:17] <lstarnes> Lonesword: what about cstdio and cstdlib?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Lonesword: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: you are doing it now
[10:18] <lstarnes> mehedi: there are several IM clients, such as pidgin, which supports many protocols
[10:18] <Radtoo> Lonesword: you may be using an old programming style, confuse c and c++. or such. might want to look for a new tutorial for c programming with gcc
[10:18] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Never tried them...I use windows at school and its #include <iostream.h> there.......I'll give cstdlib a try
[10:18] <tarelerulz> Is firefox 3.5 offically out for Ubuntu or any other Linux ?
[10:18] <mechdave> I now use namespace std;
[10:18] <lstarnes> tarelerulz: it will be included by default in ubuntu 9.10
[10:19] <dare> yes, latest is 3.5.2
[10:19] <Lonesword> Radtoo: no...I'm not confusing c with c++...just that c++ seems to be different from turbo c++ in windows
[10:19] <Radtoo> tarelerulz: its out for linux but not all distros already ship it in their main repositories
[10:19] <lstarnes> !ff35 | tarelerulz
[10:19] <O__o> turbo c++ such long time ago
[10:19] <negev> anyone know where i can find libapache2-mod-php5-dbgsym_5.2.4-2ubuntu5.6_i386.ddeb?  (as opposed to 5.7)
[10:19] <arand> tarelerulz: it will be in Uubntu 9.10, it is available in current 9.04 as the package "Shiretoko", it will not be updated as default in 9.04
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> negev: if you have the filename you can websearch it
[10:20] <negev> ActionParsnip yes im aware of that, only one result on google, which is the official ddebs page that doesn't have it
[10:20] <lstarnes> tarelerulz, arand: the package is firefox-3.5, not Shitetoko
[10:20] <dare>  Lol
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> tarelerulz: in jaunty it s a seperate app, in karmic its a proper update
[10:20] <joaopinto> Lonesword, that is because turbo C++ uses ANSI C++ plus some borland specific extensions and libraries, you will notice the same if you use VC++
[10:20] <lstarnes> *Shiretoko
[10:20] <mehedi> i use ubuntu 8.10. will it be turned into a new verson if i istall updates available?
[10:20] <lstarnes> mehedi: only if you explicitly tell it to update to a new version of ubuntu
[10:20] <Quaoar> mehedi, no
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: no it will only upgrade what you have, if you want to jump up a release you will need different steps
[10:21] <Radtoo> Lonesword: Yep. It is. Can't give any better suggestions than to look for a tutorial using gcc tho :)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | mehedi
[10:21] <Lonesword> joaopinto: Thanks.....but cstdlib and cstdio doesn't work either
[10:21] <lstarnes> tarelerulz, arand: the package doesn't use the official mozilla firefox branding, so it uses the default development branding (also known as shiretoko, based on its codename)
[10:21] <joaopinto> Lonesword, please check a gcc C++ tutorial, the proper lib name is stdlib
[10:21] <Lonesword> Radtoo: Ok. But can u give me the name of the standard input output library? It says cout isn't declared!
[10:21] <lstarnes> Lonesword: you do need to have the build-essential package installed
[10:22] <Lonesword> joaopinto: stdlib? Thanks....I'll look for a tutorial
[10:22] <Lonesword> lstarnes: I did a sudo apt-get install g++....that's all, isn't it?
[10:22] <mehedi> what is the best web browser for ubuntu?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: there is no best
[10:22] <lstarnes> Lonesword: you also need build-essential
[10:22] <Lonesword> mehedi: Firefox
[10:23] <lunix> Anyone happen to know how to make frambuffer work on : Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: best is a personal opinion so is not concrete
[10:23] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Now what's that?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: there is no best app for anything
[10:23] <mehedi> Best media player for ubuntu?
[10:23] <lstarnes> Lonesword: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: same again
[10:23] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Can I get it using the synaptic manager?
[10:23] <lstarnes> Lonesword: it contains libraries and tools required for development
[10:23] <lstarnes> Lonesword: yes
[10:23] <dare> Lonesword: just "sudo apt-get install build-essental" and stop complaining until you have done so
[10:23] <Lonesword> lstarnes:Ok
[10:23] <Lonesword> dare: Sure
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: best doesnt exist anywhere except an evaluation of someting to your own personal needs
[10:23] <Radtoo> mehedi: ... I could say that mplayer, vlc, and the wm / dm specific players are popular
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: why dont you try a few to see which you like and use that
[10:24] <tarelerulz>  I am on ubuntu 8.04  and is headach to install 3.5 .   can you do easy via repository ?  I try  html 5 videos out on wiki and it worked great.  Wiki's audio and vidoe never really worked that well for me so the new stuff was nice
[10:24] <lunix> Im very happy with Totem.  Downloads drivers as you need them. Perfect :p
[10:24] <mehedi> has there any good medical software available to download for ubuntu?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: you are using an OS where freedom and choice is rife, I suggest you use this to your full advantage rather than been told what to use by a smattering of users in a chat room
[10:24] <Radtoo> mehedi: uh. like what?
[10:24] <Guest69879> any help to instal converter for uif file?
[10:24] <joaopinto> mehedi, if there is you will find it by searching on the repositories, go to add/remove apps
[10:25] <Slart> mehedi: medical software? like "your first operation"? or administrative software?
[10:25] <joaopinto> I guess he refers to medical records keeping, etc
[10:25] <Radtoo> mehedi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience <- perhaps that helps some...
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> guest69879: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482963
[10:26] <mehedi> Thanks Radtoo
[10:26] <Lonesword> lstarnes: I installed build-essential...
[10:26] <lstarnes> Lonesword: do you get the same error?
[10:26] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Yes..........my first line is #include <stdlib>............maybe that's where the problem is?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Lonesword: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329482
[10:27] <burf> argh... trying so hard to like ubuntu
[10:27] <Radtoo> mehedi: but if you can, ask more specific questions if you have more.
[10:27] <burf> i cant get my graphcs right
[10:27] <lstarnes> Lonesword: try cstdlib instead of stdlib
[10:27] <burf> tried everything
[10:27] <Dday> Does anyone here know how to use rubyripper?
[10:27] <burf> 2 cards too
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Lonesword: or iostream.h
[10:27] <Lonesword> lstarnes: Ok
[10:27] <mehedi> i m medical student.
[10:27] <mechdave> Lonesword, can you pastebin your code?
[10:27] <Lonesword> ActionParsnip: I've already tried iostream.h
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> burf: try keeping your text on one line so we dont have to read up to reform your text from fragments
[10:28] <Lonesword> mechdave: I'll try
[10:28] <Lonesword> mechdave: #include <cstdlib.h>
[10:28] <Lonesword> main()
[10:28] <Lonesword> {
[10:28] <Lonesword> cout<<"Hello world";
[10:28] <Lonesword> }
[10:28] <FloodBot2> Lonesword: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> burf: can you please provide the output of: sudo lshw -C display    in a pastebin
[10:28] <mechdave> Lonesword, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <Lonesword> mechdave: ok
[10:28] <dare> shouldn't that be std::cout ?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Lonesword: main needs a return type: try   void main (void)
[10:28] <burf> yep thx
[10:29] <lstarnes> Lonesword: you also need to either use using namespace std; or use std::cout instead of cout
[10:29] <mechdave> Lonesword, first you need int main()
[10:29] <Lonesword> ActionParsnip: But it used to work fine without anything inside the parenthesis...I'll try that anyway
[10:29] <Radtoo> Lonesword: and since its c++. shouldn't it be <iostream> ...
[10:29] <Radtoo> Lonesword: look, a tutorial will do better. :P
[10:29] <mehedi> i m 4 d first time here.think it is a amazing scope to share and solve problem!
[10:30] <burf> http://pastebin.com/d6c7bc520 - i know its an old card but still...
[10:30] <mechdave> Lonesword, is studying the very basics of C++, don't confuse him(?) with classes please
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> burf: ive got similar, it does text great ;)
[10:30] <Slart> mehedi: please try to avoid abbreviations like "4" "d" and so on.. it makes it hard to understand for people who are not entirely fluent in english
[10:31] <SkyNetMaster> is there irc for help on deb package creation?
[10:31] <burf> im not too bothered about setting fire to my screen and jello windows, i just need a bigger res - any ideas?
[10:31] <Slart> mehedi: but yes.. this channel is great, I agree =)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> burf: ok can you please provide a pastebin of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:31] <Lonesword> lstarnes: They say cout is not a member of std
[10:31] <burf> i tried it with a RAGE 128 Pro (old again but slightley better)
[10:32] <lstarnes> Lonesword: I thought it was
[10:32] <mehedi> Slart thats ok. where are you from?
[10:32] <burf> do i just type that in? /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <duffman_2003> join #madrid
[10:32] <burf> gedit?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> burf: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <Lonesword> mechdave: Exactly.......actually, It worked fine in window.s....but I wanted to see why unix is a better development platform
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> burf: give the url that is output
[10:33] <dare> Lonesword: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/program_structure/
[10:33] <Slart> mehedi: I'm from Sweden (as you can see if you run /whois Slart). But this channel isn't for social chat. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[10:33] <Lonesword> dare: I'll try that
[10:33] <burf> http://pastebin.com/f10d6ff0b - wow thats clever it can pastebin
[10:33] <Radtoo> Lonesword: It is. Please, check a tutorial. http://pastebin.ca/1550110 <- most classic example, works,
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> burf: its very handy for pastebining files when people ask for them, you can also output text to it
[10:34] <burf> excellent
[10:34] <mechdave> Lonesword, since I have studied C++ the namespace has come in to use. This code compiles --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/262992/
[10:34] <Lonesword> dare: The example worked....now somebody please tell me what "using namespace std" means
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> burf: ok now run:     gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:35] <dare> Lonesword: it says on the webpage
[10:35] <burf> yep?
[10:35] <Radtoo> Lonesword: Your turbo cpp is just a bit dated. You need to update your knowledge. And you need to do so by reading a tutorial rather than asking us, it takes too long otherwise.
[10:35] <Lonesword> dare: Good point.
[10:35] <lstarnes> Lonesword: it tells the compiler to import everything from the std namespace into the main namespace
[10:35]  * mechdave digs out his Friedman and Koffman
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> burf: under line 22 that says "Identifier "Configured Video Device" add these lines:
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> burf:  Driver		"sis"
[10:36] <Lonesword> Radtoo: Yes. I got scared of the ugly blue screen and installed bloodshed dev c++ in my shcool.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> burf:  BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[10:36] <Lonesword> OK. THAT's IT. I'm going to read a tutoria
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> burf: so it looks a bit like this: http://pastebin.com/d1d44caea
[10:36] <mechdave> Lonesword, UNIX is not necessarily a better development platform... Just different :)
[10:36] <GrosPoussin>  /server -m irc.yozora-irc.net -j #Airsoft
[10:37] <Radtoo> Lonesword: also perhaps a few nitty gritty details will be nicer if you use an ide. code::blocks, kdevelop, anjuta, even eclipse + cdt...
[10:37] <nitroman70> hi, I would like to redirect an incoming audio stream to my microphone input : for example, if I chat with a friend on skype, I want him to hear my audio stream instead of my microphone input. How can I do that
[10:37] <burf> yep saved
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> burf: great, now reboot
[10:37] <mechdave> Lonesword, I recommend you purchase an up to date C++ book and learn from that
[10:37] <burf> thx - brb :)
[10:38] <Slart> nitroman70: I've always hoped that pulseaudio would be able to do that by clicking on some secret button or something.. I haven't found the button myself though.
[10:38] <mechdave> Lonesword, are you studying C++ at university or school?
[10:39] <Lonesword> mechdave: School.......I've to learn c++ for the next 2 years
[10:39] <Radtoo> Lonesword: ah, the blue screens... well, newer incarnations of the software you were accustomed to are still good. but open source can do fine, too. I think aforementioned IDE are a match or better for that ide you mentioned :)
[10:39] <Slart> nitroman70: I'm also pretty sure you could do it using dmix and alsa.. but it's been too long since I've messed with it and I've forgotten most of the syntax.. but it's a software mixer you can use to combine audio streams and so on.. there has to be a way to do what you want with it
[10:39] <mechdave> Radtoo, Lonesword when I studied C++ at university we started out with a text editor and g++ so it gave us a good background in the language and not hiding anything in an IDE
[10:39] <Lonesword> mechdave: And books...i've got loads of old c++ books (my dad's)...but I've never had the time (and guts) to read through the 5 inch thick book
[10:39] <nitroman70> in fact, there is no pulseaudio on the computer I wish to do that (I think so, it's kubuntu 8.04)
[10:40] <burf> ok done
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> burf: better?
[10:40] <Lonesword> mechdave: But the people at my school doesn't even have an idea on unix...........I know better about computers than my teachers!
[10:40] <burf> res still shows max of 1024x768
[10:40] <mechdave> Lonesword, Your dad's books may not be all that up to date... I am finding problems even now 9 years after leaving uni to keep up with C++ changes
[10:40]  * dare envies nitroman70's pulseaudioless computer
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> burf: ok what do you prefer?
[10:40] <burf> 1280x1024
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> burf: ok then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:41] <Radtoo> mechdave, Lonesword: Well, I myself am not a fan of the "no ide=better programmer" doctrine. It only matters if the IDE hides every last detail under *click* buttons, as far as I'm concerned.
[10:41] <mechdave> Lonesword, We can continue this conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[10:41] <Radtoo> ye, agreed. offtopic
[10:41] <Lonesword> ok
[10:41] <Slart> nitroman70: this page has some information.. nothing about sending audio output to a mic though.. but it might give you some ideas http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[10:41] <Vazurro> I have had a little problemz. In the penguinfucker.css has 2 major error
[10:41] <nitroman70> I got my audio stream coming through ssh tunnel on port 9090 (when I run vlc and start listening on http://localhost:9090, it works), but I don't know how to redirect it to the microphone input
[10:41] <burf> yep?
[10:42] <angel> I have a direct internet cable from the sattelite, I connected the cable to the WAN port of a router , and I have also connect an AP to the router , I can get the IP from the AP but I can't connect to the internet , any  help pleaseee??
[10:42] <mechdave> Radtoo, I just like to show people how to write a basic "hello world" program with minimum "distraction" to understanding the code. If you use an IDE the student is also grappling with the IDE as well as grappling with the code
[10:42] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:43] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> burf: add the lines I have added to your screen section: http://pastebin.com/d121402b8
[10:43] <computer_> how do i reset or reinstall my sound back to default?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> burf: its the subsection part
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> !sound | computer_
[10:43] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:43] <Oins> How can i find out my ubuntu bit version? At /etc/issue is only Ubuntu 9.04 displayed. I like to know if it's the 32 or 64bit version.
[10:43] <rubik_> Halo, looking for some assistance with overscan issues. Tried modifying my xorg file but no matter what i do, my modelines that i set does not appear under nvidia settings manager. Am using a Acer REVO with NV Ion
[10:43] <thisthat> hi all
[10:43] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:44] <goddard> can anyone help me
[10:44] <burf> reboot?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Oins: uname -a      i686 = 32bit, x86_64 = 64bit
[10:44] <goddard> tryed that
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> burf: indeed
[10:44] <burf> thx il be back
[10:44] <adam__> hi there
[10:44] <Ileden> Hi! I cannot connect to my ISP's (non-standard) E-Mail port - is there some easy way to test the problem is not at my end - I mean that no firewall on my network is not blocking the outbound traffic?
[10:44] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:44] <Oins> ActionParsnip: ah ok. thank you!
[10:45] <OltreIrc`35085> ciao
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> goddard: i have no experience of messing with sound
[10:45] <rubik_> Ileden : try to telnet to the ip and port, it should connect
[10:45] <goddard> who has
[10:45] <Ileden> rubik_: it's ssl secure connection though, would telnet work?
[10:45] <adam__> i can't send any content via bluetooth from my mobile phone to my pc in 9.04. How can I solve it?
[10:46] <lstarnes> Ileden: I think there is a variant of telnet with ssl support
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> goddard: ask the room and see
[10:46] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:46] <lstarnes> goddard: you have aready said that multiple times
[10:46] <Ileden> might there be some internet service that would allow me to check if I can connect to a specific port?
[10:46] <lstarnes> goddard: does it work with other sound systems such as alsa or pulseaudio?
[10:47] <goddard> no
[10:47] <lstarnes> Ileden: there is telnet-ssl
[10:47] <zcat[1]> telnet ought to at least connect, even if it can't do any more than that?
[10:47] <Ileden> lstarnes: thanks, I'll try that!
[10:47] <lstarnes> goddard: another application may be using the sound system, causing mplayer to be unable to use it
[10:47] <rubik_> ya telnet will connect, i use that all the time. And if you know the protocol, you can log into the mail server too through telnet
[10:48] <zcat[1]> nmap might work too
[10:48] <goddard> nothing is using sound
[10:48] <lstarnes> I usually use socat instead of telnet
[10:48] <Guest17254> any help with instaling some good  uif file converter?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest17254: i gave one but you went. let me try find it again
[10:49] <zcat[1]> yep, just telnetted to gmail.com:443 and I can connect but of course not do anything else
[10:49] <adam__> can anyone help me with the bluetooth device please?
[10:49] <Guest17254> ActionParsnip: sorry mate, i turn it off accidently
[10:49] <goddard> nothing is using sound
[10:49] <zcat[1]> rubik_: EHLO?
[10:49] <rubik_> ?
[10:49] <adam__> i cannot send anything to my pc, but it works opposite way
[10:50] <wolf23> anyone help me with emerald?
[10:50] <Ileden> lstarnes, rubik_ : thanks! telnet worked fine (that is, it got a valid reply). Should have thought of that myself, in fact but I didn't think it'd work because of the ssl. Should have tried. Thanks!
[10:50] <rubik_> zcat[1] : the question wasn't from me ;)
[10:50] <zcat[1]> rubik_: ok, so you don't spek esmtp then
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest17254: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482963
[10:50] <rubik_> nah i speak pop3 hehe
[10:50] <burf> where is he?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> burf: ?
[10:50] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:50] <burf> ActionParsnip: luv u :)
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> burf: better?
[10:51] <burf> it works great yeah - phew
[10:51] <burf> thanks for that i really apprciate it
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> burf: back up that file and keep it safe.
[10:51] <Guest17254> ActionParsnip: thanks mate, wish u all good to your day!
[10:51] <Cheery> hi, I have file operation jammed to a screen.
[10:51] <Alexia> Goddard are you having sound problems?
[10:51] <zcat[1]> A friend of mine used to IRC by telnetting into the irc servers
[10:51] <lstarnes> Ileden: ssl and tls are embedded in tcp, so logically anything with support for tcp should be able to connect to something that uses ssl, but not necessarily do anything else without also having ssl or tls support
[10:51] <Cheery> do you know how to get rid from it?
[10:51] <goddard> yes
[10:51]  * cousin_mario upgraded to the nvidia-glx-185 testing package and now temp sensor is no longer detected: any idea what to check for?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> burf: if you need to reinstall you can simply copy the file back from the backup
[10:51] <burf> where is it stored again?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> burf: use your up key to view past commands
[10:51] <Alexia> goddard, do you mind if i send you a private message
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> burf ;)
[10:51] <burf> ohyeah
[10:52] <goddard> not at all
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> burf: teach a man to fish and stuff
[10:52] <burf> xorg.conf
[10:52] <cousin_mario> xorg.conf?
[10:53] <wolf23> helpers,anyone help me with emerald?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> burf: yep, backup that file so if you have to reinstall you dont have to jump through these hoops again, you can just copy the file oer and restart
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: wassup
[10:53] <zcat[1]> daughter is doing a report on someone in technology. she chose linus. ;)
[10:54] <omarhu> Hey guys what's up
[10:54] <omarhu> !!!
[10:54] <omarhu> i need ome info
[10:54] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  i want to help me how to install emerald and make ubuntu looking like windows 7
[10:54] <omarhu> could somebody help me?
[10:54] <zcat[1]> wolf23: apt-get install emerald
[10:54] <Cheery> http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8046/fuckbuntu.png
[10:55] <AnxiousNut> omarhu: what do you need?
[10:55] <Cheery> if I close it, it goes only to background
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: you will need to instal compizconfig-settings-manager and emerald
[10:55] <omarhu> ok
[10:55] <zcat[1]> wolf23: then go on gnome-look.org and find a nice 'vista' theme for it
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: you will also need to have full 3d drivers installed and running
[10:55] <wolf23> zcat[1],  yes i have install it,but i want anyone to help me the terms how to make it like windows 7
[10:55] <burf> still cant enable effects tho - nmind
[10:55] <Myrtti> !ask | omarhu
[10:55] <burf> fresh cup of coffee i think
[10:55] <burf> brb
[10:56] <wolf23> zcat[1], i download themes and icons and start button from there, can u help me installing it plz
[10:57] <NetEcho> is there an easy way to compare 2 identical folders to see what files have changed and how?
[10:57] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  thanx, dude
[10:57] <zcat[1]> wolf23: yeah, basically once you have 3d rivers, compizconfig-settings-manager and emerald from the repos, and a theme from gnome-look.org, drag the top panel down and resize it, gt rid of the other one.. it's not too hard to figure out
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !theme | wolf23
[10:57] <zcat[1]> hehe, 3d rivers ;)
[10:57] <Myrtti> NetEcho: diff - if you want graphical, try meld.
[10:58] <omarhu> i need ome info
[10:58] <omarhu> could somebody help me?
[10:58] <wolf23> zcat[1],  can u plz tell me how step by step
[10:58] <Myrtti> omarhu: ASK
[10:58] <theatro> !ask | omahn
[10:58] <burf> what exactly am i missing without normal effects?
[10:58] <zcat[1]> wolf23: not really ;)
[10:59] <Myrtti> !pm > omarhu
[10:59] <omarhu> ok
[10:59] <omarhu> i have my laptop
[10:59] <omarhu> with dual boot
[11:00] <omarhu> Ubuntu & Windows
[11:00] <Myrtti> omarhu: try to put it all to one line
[11:00] <omarhu> on C:
[11:00] <FloodBot2> omarhu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: ease up on the enter key dude
[11:00] <Myrtti> omarhu: it makes it easier to read your stuff
[11:00] <omarhu> is it possible to pass Ubuntu from C: to D: ?
[11:01] <omarhu> cause for the updates it says
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: ubuntu doesnt use drive letters
[11:01] <wolf23> zcat[1],  ok i have the site to show u
[11:01] <omarhu> ok ok
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: have you by anychnace used wubi?
[11:01] <omarhu> i know
[11:01] <omarhu> wubi?
[11:01] <omarhu> no
[11:01] <burf> i heard pidgin stores passwords for messenger in plain text is there something else more secure i can use to get on yahoo messenger?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: or is it a true dual boot?
[11:02] <omarhu> what's that?
[11:02] <Myrtti> omarhu: did you install with an .exe file?
[11:02] <omarhu> is a dual boot
[11:02] <NetEcho> Myrtti I'm seeing stuff like 32,38c37,49
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: if you dont know it it doesnt matter
[11:02] <omarhu> DUAL BOOT
[11:02] <NetEcho> whats the letters between the line numbers mean?
[11:02] <Myrtti> NetEcho: line numbers
[11:02] <NetEcho> caught that much, what about the letters?
[11:02] <CaT_MaNZz> is there any console network manager ?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: ok windows names partitions with letters, Linux uses block device names. If you run: sudo fdisk -l   you will see what I mean
[11:03] <zcat[1]> burf: if you want secure just don't let it store passwords at all, there's a checkbox for itiirc..
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> CaT_MaNZz: ifconfig and iwconfig
[11:03] <burf> oh ok
[11:03] <omarhu> yes i got it
[11:03] <iamleneko> hi
[11:03] <omarhu> ok listen
[11:03] <omarhu> the only thing i need to know is
[11:04] <CaT_MaNZz> ActionParsnip, Im asking about redhat like manager .. with ncurses windows and etc
[11:04] <omarhu> IS IT POSSIBLE TO PASS THE SO UBUNTU FROM ONE HARD DISK TO ANOTHER?
[11:04] <erUSUL> !caps | omarhu
[11:04] <erUSUL> omarhu: yes it is possible
[11:04] <nibbler> burf: there is nothing wrong with storing passwords in plain text. for services like messengers, it is actually impossible to really encrypt passwords
[11:04] <omarhu> ok
[11:04] <omarhu> how can i do ti?
[11:05] <Radtoo> CaT_MaNZz: how was that redhat like manager called?
[11:05] <nibbler> omarhu: look for the "harddisk upgrade mini howto" (google etc), it has detailed step-by-step instructions
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: you will need an intermediate partition to store the data while you copy one to the other but it is possible
[11:05] <CaT_MaNZz> system-config-network
[11:05] <iamleneko> i have multiple network cards on a computer that give connection to 2 different network, but this computer don't found the gateway to the internet
[11:05] <nibbler> ActionParsnip: intermediate partition??
[11:05] <iamleneko> there is something that don't work and probably misconfigured
[11:06] <erUSUL> omarhu: you can use several methods. partimage or clonezilla could be of help. but copying the files with cp also works ;P you only neeed to know what you are doing-
[11:06] <omarhu> "harddisk upgrade mini howto"
[11:06] <burf> yeah but plain text - jeez - coulda sprung for some simple encryption, no?
[11:06] <omarhu> just like that?
[11:06] <nibbler> iamleneko: make sure you have only one default gateway
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: if you are simply transferring to a new drive this isnt needed. if you want to swap which partitions are being used for what you will need a stepping stone
[11:06] <burf> yahoo does
[11:06] <iamleneko> nibbler, how do i set this ?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> nibbler: i thought a partition swapover was wanted, then i re-read it
[11:06] <burf> bvtw - does pidgin check your email for yahoo - let you know when you receive one?
[11:06] <omarhu> cause on my laptop i have one Harddisk
[11:06] <omarhu> divided on 2
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> burf: you can enable new mail notifications. I think it can
[11:06] <zp> hi
[11:07] <omarhu> u know 30 GB on 15 & 15
[11:07] <nibbler> iamleneko: nopaste output of: ifconfig -a, route -n, and give info about your actual gateway, and see if you can ping it
[11:07] <NetEcho> Myrtti is there a way to get a more readable printout?
[11:07] <zp> anyone heard of zii egg?
[11:07] <omarhu> and i want to pass from one piece to another
[11:07] <acron17> hi there. i've a nvidia vanta graphics card ( 10de:002c (rev 15) ) which i'm unable to get operatable
[11:07] <omarhu> but on the same hardisk
[11:07] <iamleneko> i can't ping it if i don't tell ping the interface to use wait
[11:07] <Myrtti> NetEcho: I personally get a more readable printout with a graphical diff viewer such as meld, I'm not familiar with diff on the command line
[11:07] <iamleneko> ping -I eth0 ...
[11:07] <nibbler> omarhu: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html
[11:07] <Radtoo> CaT_MaNZz: hm I think its not quite as feature rich, but network-config may work...
[11:07] <NetEcho> Myrtti I only have command line on this ubuntu server
[11:07] <iamleneko> wait i did set a gateway for each network
[11:08] <rubik_> how do you uninstall a application that is not in your add/remove list ?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> omarhu: thats fine to the system its just another partition, it could be on another disk or watever it doesnt matter
[11:08] <iamleneko> i probably just need to comment out one of the gateway
[11:08] <nibbler> iamleneko: well, you need to have a defined way....
[11:08] <Myrtti> NetEcho: if you want to work on CLI, I guess you could use the patch mode or whatever it's called
[11:08] <iamleneko> ?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> rubik_: sudo apt-get --purge remove <name>
[11:08] <Logomachist> Feel kind of dumb for asking this but how can I add a Java program to the Main Menu. There's a jar and a "run.sh" file, but the jar won't execute and the "run.sh" file only works if you're running the script from its own directory (and "cd DIRECTORY NAME" gives me an error).
[11:08] <acron17> the hardware-driver window is empty. i installed nvidia-glx-71 and the kernel module seems to get loaded but xorg refuses to load the driver
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> acron17: try a different driver
[11:08] <NetEcho> Myrtti hrm thats an option but I gotta try to find out whats been altared between to two site source codes before I do anything that might be fatal
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> acron17: what release are you using?
[11:09] <acron17> ActionParsnip: jaunty
[11:09] <Myrtti> NetEcho: I meant the mode in diff that you can use to make patches
[11:09] <omarhu> ok ...
[11:09] <omarhu> now
[11:09] <NetEcho> oh
[11:09] <Radtoo> CaT_MaNZz: also (at least some branch of) wicd has got command line functionality... ncurses included
[11:09] <omarhu> i have another question
[11:10] <Radtoo> CaT_MaNZz: I saw that on another dist tho, no telling if it was patched or vanilla... but it is pretty nice.
[11:10] <NetEcho> Myrtti trying a split column view
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> acron17: could try the 96 driver
[11:10] <AnxiousNut> what's the difference between "sudo apt-get --purge remove" and "sudo apt-get purge <name>"
[11:10] <nibbler> iamleneko: if you have to default gws, how would the kernel know whichone to take?
[11:10] <iamleneko> nibbler, well commenting out one of the gateway seems to work, it will do the job for now
[11:10] <omarhu> i will install ubuntu on the second partition
[11:11] <iamleneko> nibbler, indeed
[11:11] <acron17> ActionParsnip: why should i try a different diver? the vanta card is supposed to be supported by the 71 driver as stated here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/appendix-a.html
[11:11] <nibbler> iamleneko: if you want to have two gateways, like failover, loadsharing etc, things get complicated. check for some iproute2 howto stuff... but this is not easy or anything :)
[11:11] <burf> no email notification - but thats ok i suppose
[11:11] <omarhu> how can i delete the o?
[11:11] <zp> hi anyone have documentation or tutorial on installing ubuntu on ARM?
[11:11] <omarhu> how can i delete the one i have togethe Windows?
[11:11] <zp> any pointer or guide?
[11:12] <iamleneko> nibbler, i did have some try with it in the past, and yes it is some pain (and not have the time for it)
[11:12] <sublimey> good morning, could someone please help me downgrading kaffeine? i've searched the web, but can't find any help or how to's?
[11:13] <Randai> you mean the media player?
[11:13] <sublimey> yeah thats the one
[11:13] <iamleneko> nibbler, thanks a lot for your help
[11:13] <omarhu> ???
[11:13] <Randai> should be in the uhh repositories?
[11:13] <iamleneko> i can go back to work now :)
[11:13] <nibbler> iamleneko: welcome, bye
[11:14] <cummseng> How come my linux laptop cannot resolve a computers hostname but my windows machine can?
[11:14] <omarhu> how can i delete the one i have togethe Windows?
[11:14] <sublimey> the latest version is 1.1svn and i want the old 0.8.7
[11:14] <Randai> in jaunty, that's what its listed as.
[11:14] <nibbler> cummseng: hosts file? different nameservers? resolved via windows networking - to name some possibilities
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> acron17: well what you have isnt working so to me it makes sense. have you tried modifying xorg.conf?
[11:14] <Randai> as in the jaunty repositories that is.
[11:14] <burf> where can i find things to put on desktop to make it look good - dunno what exactly - is there a place?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> acron17: or reading /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[11:14] <nibbler> omahn: i dont understand your uestion
[11:14] <Radtoo> cummseng: .. woops, nibbler already answered that. can you give us the hostname you're trying to resolve?
[11:14] <cummseng> nibbler, i think its resolved via windows networking, how can i get this functionality?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> burf: www.vladstudio.com
[11:15] <rubik_> burf : add/remove screenlet
[11:15] <cummseng> Radtoo, its just the name of the computer. Loungeroom-PC
[11:15] <sublimey> erm, sorry i'm running koala alpha 4, and kaffeine has broken, so i wanted to downgrade the version
[11:15] <jmaina> hey Guys i have noticed that Debian doesnt have really good graphic support for Dell Laptops... i had to use the vesa default...
[11:15] <Randai> ahh right.
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | sublimey
[11:15] <Radtoo> burf: also gnome-look.org, kde-look.org and there's also a ton of desktop additions that "look good" in the form of programs.
[11:15] <jadz> Hey guys i have an issue with the volume control not working correctly when i use the multimedia keys on my laptop (dell 6400). When i press vol+/- it seems to change the status of the volume, but the volume itself doesn't  change. Any ideas?
[11:15] <bazhang> jmaina, debian?
[11:15] <jmaina> anyone know how to install the driver for the ati graphics card.....???
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !ati | jmaina
[11:16] <Radtoo> cummseng: ... yes, but where do you enter it?
[11:16] <acron17> ActionParsnip: i added Driver "nvidia" and xorg failed to start... (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
[11:16] <cummseng> Radtoo, im trying to use gigolo
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> acron17: ok did the dkms step of the driver install complete?
[11:16] <jmaina> mad thanks ubottu... i just wanted to know how to install the driver... for my curiosity
[11:16] <cummseng> Radtoo, i cant even ping it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !bot | jmaina
[11:16] <mehedi> how i can convert pdf file in ubuntu?
[11:17] <adac> Is there a virtual machine that can boot from usb stick?
[11:17] <acron17> ActionParsnip: yeah i think so. lsmod shows me nvidia is loaded and the dmesg is ok i think
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: convert to / from what?
[11:17] <Randai> jmaina: you after the 9.8 version? Just installed it the other day for my HD4850
[11:17] <sublimey> its just that kaffeine now recongises my dvb card as dual tuner now, :/ and comes back with a "demultiplexer error" , so is it possible to downgrade kaffeine, i'm sure i have done this with other programmes :)
[11:17] <mehedi> from pdf to word document?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> acron17: uninstall the driver and in xorg.conf set it to Driver 'nv"
[11:17] <Radtoo> cummseng: hmm, seems like that could be either SMB or FTP or SFTP... I guess its a window share then, tho.
[11:18] <Radtoo> cummseng: well, pinging would resolve names differently than smb would. at least usually.
[11:18] <acron17> ActionParsnip: but i do need hw accel :-/
[11:18] <Radtoo> cummseng: I bet you can ping the computer's IP address if it is not firewalled or the router prevents it, tho.
[11:18] <sprink> so I finally got my sound working in ubuntu but it doesn't work in flash apps. Any idea?
[11:18] <cummseng> Radtoo, yes i can ping the ip, but not the hostname.
[11:19] <Randai> sprink: what sound system you using?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> acron17: i know, but if you install the driver from fresh it sometimes makes it work
[11:19] <jmaina> Randai... i had tried it before it was a major disaster ended up saying things im really glad the computer doenst understand human... :)
[11:19] <mehedi> How can i convert pdf file into word document ?
[11:19] <sprink> Randai: I have a audigy 2 but I am just using headphones
[11:19] <acron17> ActionParsnip: ok. so what do you suggest?
[11:19] <Randai> jmaina: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide was a good guide as far as installing it went
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> acron17: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:20] <Randai> sprink: as in alsa? pulse audio?
[11:20] <Radtoo> cummseng: That's because the name resolution for windows shares and web sites / pinging / etc can work differently.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/pdf-to-doc-converter-344569/
[11:20] <sprink> Randai: alsa
[11:20] <zp> ubottu, tell User about ARM
[11:20] <acron17> ActionParsnip: ok and then? sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71 ?
[11:20] <Randai> sprink: as right, sorry only dealt with OSS4 in regards to getting flash sound working perfectly.
[11:21] <NetEcho> Myrtti so meld makes it easier to see exactly which parts changed?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> acron17: run all that and reboot, then once back to desktop, rm ~/.nv*; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71
[11:21] <Randai> sprink: the only thing I could suggest would be to try flash 10 if you already haven't.
[11:21] <acron17> ok, i'll try...
[11:22] <cummseng> Radtoo, My router can see the names of my windows machines, how come it cant see linux?
[11:22] <sprink> Randai: ok thanks
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: you can use pdfedit as well instead of converting to a nonporable format
[11:22] <grawity> cummseng: Windows machines use some NetBIOS thing for broadcast name resolution. On Linux, that function only comes with Samba.
[11:23] <mehedi> is Wine is free?
[11:23] <cummseng> grawity, i have samba installed and a share on that server already.
[11:23] <Radtoo> cummseng: Again, it is important to tell what "type" of name you mean... regular host names as used for web servers and such, or the windows share names?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: yes, i know of only 4 paid for apps in linux
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: wine is free
[11:23] <roy_> Hi! I want a nice gui boot menu like rh in ubuntu 9.04. Any recommendations/suggestions?
[11:23] <grawity> cummseng: Do Windows systems "see" your server?
[11:24] <cummseng> grawity, yes, i can see it browing the network, i can ping the hostname
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> roy_: none really, its on the screen for like 20seconds, who cares
[11:24] <burf> am i using kde or gnome currently?
[11:24] <Randai> ActionParsnip: uhh what 4 apps do you know that cost money?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Randai: penumbra, nero4linux, cedga, crossover office
[11:24] <roy_> I care. Because of the looks.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Randai: those are the ones i know
[11:25] <Randai> ActionParsnip: right, nothing important from the list ha ha
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Randai: penumbra is very worth the money
[11:25] <grawity> roy_: Grub can have a background set.
[11:25] <sublimey> roy, http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
[11:25] <Radtoo> mehedi:  you already were answered this question about wine 2 times before... I find it odd that you ask again?
[11:25] <burf> wwhat am i using by default?
[11:26] <bazhang> burf, ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[11:26] <roy_> Is grub gfx (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub-gfx) any good?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> burf: if its got a button on the bottom bar with a K on it, its KDE, otherwise you will have a bar at the top and one at the bottom and be Gnome
[11:26] <don-i> this channel is alot more alive than efnets #ubuntu
[11:26] <burf> cool thx
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> burf: you can however install any DE on your system that you like
[11:27] <Randai> ActionParsnip: hmm, what is it, only thing I don't know. Searching doesn't seem to bring up anything
[11:27] <grawity> roy_: grub-gfx seems to be exactly like the normal grub
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Randai: scary first person shooter using lots of ragdoll physics, its hugely interactive and a puzzler
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Randai: the demo isnt bad at all
[11:27] <sublimey> roy, if you follow that guide i linked to, theres a section on modifying grub
[11:28] <Randai> ActionParsnip: right, now I know what the name is from. Was thinking of "software" software. Not a game.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Randai: http://www.penumbragame.com/ageGate.php
[11:28] <roy_> But what about the nice bg and reorganised, better looking menu? Is it doable on the current grub in ubuntu?
[11:28] <_winderer_> how can i  give net conection throught eth0 any help , somebody pls
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Randai: a game is softwae
[11:28] <Radtoo> cummseng: you know what? do you have bind and its tools installed on your ubuntu? you can use "dig" to query the regular name servers as they are used on the internet (no netbios), that might answer some questions.
[11:29] <Randai> ActionParsnip: yeah I know. It just doesn't cross my mind as such in most circumstances, as in I think of development tools and such before I come to having a game in mind.
[11:29] <grawity> roy_: You can set a background - but there are some limitations, as you can see in that Arch wiki page.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Randai: gotcha
[11:29] <roy_> Look at this: http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/how-to-install-gfx-grub-in-ubuntu/ I would really like to have a more red hat - like menu though...
[11:29] <cummseng> Radtoo, Grawity, i figured it out. I had to add wins to /etc/nsswitch.conf
[11:30] <Radtoo> cummseng: I think we can set up the linux machines similarly if we know whether you need samba, a normal name server entry (possibly asked for by dhcp) ...
[11:30] <Radtoo> cummseng: ah, nice
[11:30] <grawity> roy_: I even have a script for Ubuntu, to change grub splash: http://sprunge.us/hPDb
[11:30] <grawity> roy_: gfx-grub looks nice though :\ try installing it.
[11:30] <sublimey> i use http://sourceforge.net/projects/startup-manager/ to change grub :)
[11:31] <burf> how do you use the cube if its enabled?
[11:31] <acron17> ActionParsnip: re. did as you suggested... no luck error in Xorg-log is: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> burf: ctrl+alt+ click and drag
[11:31] <Radtoo> cummseng: well congrats, then :)
[11:31] <cividale> hi guys
[11:31] <sublimey> middle click on empty desktop is easier :)
[11:31] <cividale> is anyone speaking italian?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> sublimey: on karmick you can use mouse1+mouse3 :D
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !it | cividale
[11:32] <Radtoo> cividale: #ubuntu-it ...
[11:32] <burf> click and drag the desktop?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> sublimey: if its an app widow you need the hotkeys
[11:32] <sublimey> yeah, but click the mouse wheel and drag
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> burf: yes with alt + ctrl held
[11:32] <burf> mustnt be working then
[11:32] <jmaina> hey i would like to format a usb disk using the dd utility.., just not sure on the command syntax, anyone who knows how to do that...
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> burf: have you enabled it in ccsm?
[11:32] <sublimey> enable cube, enable cube rotation too
[11:32] <grawity> jmaina: you don't. dd is not for "formatting"
[11:33] <burf> i enabled cube
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> burf: have you ran: compiz --replace ?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> acron17: not sure then, i'd try different drivers til you hit the gold
[11:33] <burf> i installed compiz config
[11:33] <sublimey> rotate cube is 2nd ccsm option you need
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> burf: means nothing, yu can install openofficec and never run it, same deal
[11:34] <jmaina> grawity: but u can use it to clean the disk cant u...????
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> burf: press alt+f2 and type   compiz --replace
[11:34] <roy_> :sublimey: 10x :) will try that &g-gfx. bye folks!
[11:34] <sublimey> np
[11:34] <burf> both enabled
[11:35] <sublimey> ctrl+alt+left arrow?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> burf: is compiz running?
[11:36] <burf> i see an error on system tray - please run package manager
[11:37] <burf> its probly due to not recognizing card correctly
[11:37] <syslq78> How can I disable magnifyer?
[11:37] <ZERO00> YO
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> burf: if you havent actually started compiz, no hotkeys or inputs will make it do anything as its not running
[11:38] <lilleman_> I need to change my keyboard keymap. When I select the appropriate keyboard (mac/swedish) it have two keys switched, and another two I'd like to switch just for comfort. Where can I do this?
[11:39] <burf> how can i tell if its running - system tray?
[11:39] <Randai> burf: system monitor. F2 System monitor
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> burf: by saying that you havent ran it, just because you installsomething doesnt mean its running
[11:39] <new_to_linux> I am having problems running SUPER video convertor in Wine - it hangs with a small window frozen on the workspace. any ideas please?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> burf: like I said earlier: press alt+f2 and tpe    compiz --replace
[11:40] <burf> so i have to run it every time?
[11:40] <burf> oh ok
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | new_to_linux
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> burf: yes every boot, you can ad it to your autostart items but you need to run the app each time
[11:40] <Shamoun> what is the best video player for linux? something with features comparable to mpc-hc and with xvba support
[11:40] <Randai> ActionParsnip: doesn't it uhh configure it, itself on installation from the repositories? cause I could have sworn I didn't go through any of that, just the other day
[11:40] <chris|> mplayer
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> new_to_linux: try to find a native app instead, not all apps run well or even at all via wine
[11:41] <sublimey> no, system, preferences, appearance, visual effects, extra turned on?
[11:41] <burf> ok done compiz --replace
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Randai: not what i've seen
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Randai: and i'd say it auto making itself autostart is anti-choice
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> burf: ok does the cube work?
[11:41] <Randai> ActionParsnip: ahh right, yeah I remember now, turned it on in the appearance settings.
[11:41] <burf> no
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> burf: ok try te same command in a terminal window and pastebin the output'
[11:42] <new_to_linux> thanks. I am also having trouble with my USB wireless network adaptor. It isn't working (sorry about the vague description) - can someone pls help??
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> new_to_linux: can you please use http://pastebin.com and give us the output of: sudo lshw -C network
[11:43] <burf> http://pastebin.com/m2885da0d
[11:43] <burf> xgl not present
[11:44] <sublimey> what card is it burf?
[11:44] <ZERO00> ...
[11:44] <burf> dunno some on board one - 5 years old now gotta be
[11:44] <AnxiousNut> what's the difference between "sudo apt-get --purge remove" and "sudo apt-get purge <name>"?
[11:44] <ZERO00> BYE
[11:44] <burf> i had same issues with a rage 128 pro which i pulled out earlier
[11:44] <thedancingdeer> Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[11:44] <thedancingdeer> these are the errors i got on ##c and ##c++ channels!
[11:45] <DJones> !register | thedancingdeer
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> AnxiousNut: the remove part, remove uninstalls it, the first command only removes the config outside of $HOME
[11:45] <DJones> thedancingdeer: Those channels require you to have registered your nick with freenode before you can join the channels
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> AnxiousNut: you could have also read    man apt-get
[11:47] <thedancingdeer> does this mean my current nick 'thedancingdeer' which i can change anytime or the name i'm registered with! the one i see after /whois nick
[11:47] <thedancingdeer> DJones: does this mean my current nick 'thedancingdeer' which i can change anytime or the name i'm registered with! the one i see after /whois nick
[11:47] <iv3att> ok
[11:48] <DJones> thedancingdeer: Its the "thedancingdeer" part which needs to be registered, if you're unsure about registering, I'd suggest joining #freenode and they'll be able to help you through the registration process
[11:50] <javi> hi, is there any package for the game 0 A.D. ?
[11:51] <dutchie> $ firefox
[11:51] <dutchie> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[11:52] <dutchie> still segfaulting
[11:52] <new2Linux> please find output of 'sudo lshw -C network' here: http://pastebin.com/m1ff4da13
[11:52] <O__o> how to print double sided in linux?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> javi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1211966
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> new2Linux: there is no wifi device in your system or attatched to it
[11:53] <javi> ActionParsnip: thanks for the link
[11:54] <new2Linux> it is connected to one of the USB ports, but isn't recognising it. i read on some forums about using ndiswrapper to wrap the windows driver for it?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> javi: you will find its a simple binary installer or seperate app that needs certain apps off the cd in certain places in the file system
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> new2Linux: your system isnt seeing the hardware
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> new2Linux: so any attempt to install any form of driver will fail
[11:55] <dutchie> FF reinstalled fine but still segfaults
[11:55] <new2Linux> what can i do then?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> new2Linux: i suggest you unplug the device, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in, wait 10 seconds then run: dmesg | tail
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: try: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old      then rerun firefox
[11:55] <Radtoo> new2Linux: ndiswrapper is a last resort, it does frequently not work nicely. I'd start by seeing what hardware that usb device acutally is, first, to see if it is supported under linux
[11:56] <dutchie> ActionParsnip: nope
[11:56] <chuuk> anyone here have any experience with tiling window mangers?
[11:56] <new2Linux> whenever i unplug it, the ethernet controller stops working too, so i have to restart. any ideas on what to do instead of restarting?
[11:56] <alankila> damn that ndiswrapper is a nice idea, but a pity that it doesn't work perfectly. I think it's the highest height of irony if, at some point in the future, the stable drivers API turns out to be win32/64 driver API for linux.
[11:57] <Trijntje> Hi all. In applications -> add software there is a star rating for each packet. is this rating based on the use of the application or the number of installs?
[11:57] <Radtoo> chuuk: ye, sure...
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: bah, ok then rename the old profile back: killall firefox; rm ~/.mozilla; mv ~/.mozilla_old ~/.mozilla
[11:57] <yinlong> ActionParsnip,can you explain what "dmesg" can do in ubuntu?
[11:57] <chuuk> ok, i'm running awesome right now - the keybinding to spawn a new xterm doesn't work
[11:57] <Radtoo> chuuk: are you using the "window" key and enter?
[11:58] <chuuk> yeah
[11:58] <chuuk> i'm able to use Mod4+F2 to open the xterm
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> yinlong: displays the kernel messages
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> yinlong: man dmesg   will tell you
[11:59] <zp> exit
[11:59] <yinlong> yes,i did it
[11:59] <chuuk> Radtoo: but apparently the keybinding for Mod4+Enter seems to conflict with something else
[11:59] <mikele> #ubuntu-it
[11:59] <mikele> how can I enter in ubuntu-it?
[11:59] <Guest41255> 
[11:59] <enzotib> mikele: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:59] <dutchie> oops, there goes my .mozilla folder
[11:59] <mikele> thanks
[11:59] <Radtoo> chuuk: hm... ye, well, it should work then. Problem is, awesome has got a difficult "for experts" lua based configuration with little documentation. Most documentation they have is still for awesome 2. You should probably contact their irc channel directly.
[11:59] <cividale> hi guys i need help
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: no, you only renamed the original, so you can rename it back
[12:00] <chuuk> alright, will try that. cheers for the help
[12:00] <dutchie> no, I just deleted it by accident
[12:00] <Trijntje> !ask|cividale:
[12:00] <Radtoo> chuuk: other than that... wmii is also more or less the same if you don't need multi-screen support
[12:00] <cividale> i use a notebook acer aspire 4935g i try to use skype but the front mic and cam doesn't work at all is anyone can help me?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: i gave yuo the exact commands, you can copy / paste to the terminal
[12:01] <dutchie> ActionParsnip: you missed a -rf, then I made a mess of it
[12:01] <chuuk> Radtoo: anything involving the Return key doesn't work for me
[12:01] <O__o> hi can someone tell me if this command will print double sided??
[12:01] <Radtoo> chuuk: in fact it it is more powerful in the default configuration, if you don't want to bother with customization and don't mind using alt instead of the window key. I'm sticking to it until awesome 3 is more well documented, even though I can do basic lua.
[12:01] <O__o> lpr -o sides=two-sided file.ps
[12:01] <dutchie> ActionParsnip: don't worry, I'll sort it out once FF is working again
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: could also try: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[12:01] <O__o> anyone?
[12:02] <dutchie> ActionParsnip: should I mention this is Karmic
[12:02] <chuuk> Radtoo: I've tried wmii, xmonad
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | dutchie
[12:02] <new2Linux> output of 'dmesg | tail': http://pastebin.com/m7c75461d
[12:02] <Radtoo> chuuk: Ah, now that's odd.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: karmic isnt supported here
[12:02] <chuuk> Radtoo: do you know how to change the keybindings on wmii?
[12:02]  * dutchie goes off to ubuntu+1
[12:02] <cividale> is anyone in here that can resolve me the front mic and cam problem
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> new2Linux: ok so the device is seen to attatch
[12:02] <cividale> please help me
[12:02] <dutchie> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help anyway
[12:03] <JonathanEllis> Can I display partition labels from a terminal without using e2label? I am in the middle of an install and the terminal has very limited commands and doesnt include e2label
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: np man
[12:03] <Ozzah> Can somebody pls help me with dragging files onto launchers so that the file path will be the first argument in the launcher's target?
[12:03] <alexandernst> I want to upgrade python bindings for qt4, but python-qt4-common will be deleted if I do so. Whats the problem? (I'm on 9.04 x64)
[12:04] <Radtoo> chuuk: "xev" may help you to debug what xorg registers when you hit these buttons...and yes, changing keyboard mappings on wmii is slightly easier.
[12:04] <Alexia> ozzah can i send you a private message
[12:04] <chuuk> Radtoo: going to give it a try now, cheers for the help so far
[12:04] <Ozzah> Alexia: Sure
[12:04] <new2Linux> 'lshw -C network' output is unchanged ...
[12:05] <Randai> alexandernst: From what I can see it doesn't really do anything . . . I mean, its just a meta-package as far as I can see
[12:05] <alexandernst> Randai: So, I can upgrade without worring?
[12:06] <Randai> alexandernst: Should be able too, otherwise it'd tell you if it all the other packages it'd be taking with it.
[12:06] <alexandernst> Randai: Ok, thanks :)
[12:07] <Radtoo> chuuk: shortcuts are in /etc/wmii-3.5/wmiirc I think
[12:08] <smulcahy> I have ubuntu 8.10 and am using the forcedeth module
[12:08] <smulcahy> I'm trying to pass it some options by putting them in /etc/modprobe.d/options
[12:08] <smulcahy> but it seems to ignore them
[12:08] <Radtoo> chuuk: np, good luck
[12:08] <smulcahy> as a workaround, i've brought down the network, rmmod forcedeth and then modprobe forcedeth with the options
[12:09] <smulcahy> and this works, so the options are good
[12:09] <smulcahy> does anyone know why /etc/modprobe.d/options isn't working?
[12:09] <smulcahy> I've googled this extensively but most stuff I've seen suggests it should still be working
[12:09] <smulcahy> do I need to rebuild the initrd to get the options picked up?
[12:10] <francisfelidae> how do I find the program which uses the module garmin_gps?
[12:10] <Radtoo> new2Linux-afk: when you get back, it could help if you installed hwinfo and posted its output as well. (hwinfo = mostly the same as lshw but more verbose)
[12:11] <Radtoo> francisfelidae: Is that a kernel module? kernel modules don't usually belong to a single program...
[12:12] <francisfelidae> Radtoo, yes, it is. But I cannot modprobe -r that module because it is in use
[12:12] <Radtoo> francisfelidae: in fact most kernel driver modules just enable hardware, which then is accessible at a location common for the type of hardware. for instance, keyboards and mice ultimately get /dev/input/event symlinks and such.
[12:13] <R_A_S_H_> I was wondering if anyone could help me with a .rar problem i was having
[12:14] <Radtoo> francisfelidae: aah. well, that doesn't need to mean that its in use by a program, it can also mean that it is in use by another kernel module...
[12:14] <Radtoo> francisfelidae: "lsmod" for starters
[12:14] <francisfelidae> Radtoo, so can you give me hints how I can find the existing link or binary or dependencies or whatever which uses that module?
[12:15] <Radtoo> francisfelidae: modprobe --show-depends  is also not bad
[12:16] <chuuk> Radtoo: so, something came up
[12:16] <akm1> Does anyone know how to run multiple nohup jobs in the same directory but sending the output to different files? I don't want the jobs all appending to the same nohup.out file
[12:16] <francisfelidae> Radtoo, usbserial is used by garmin_gps, but garmin_gps isn't used by any module
[12:17] <chuuk> Radtoo: it turns out that after i open any app that requires GNOME (?) such as xChat, Firefox etc, the keybinding (Mod4+Enter) begins to work... :S
[12:17] <chuuk> Radtoo: also, the terminal that it opens isn't an xterm but a gnome-terminal
[12:18] <Radtoo> francisfelidae: you know, I think it is not always a good idea but in this case, why not just "rmmod -f" it... of course you could go figure out what program ultimately uses the module with lsof and co but I think there's no very convenient way to do that :)
[12:19] <sergeykish> Hello, I have a problem with pairing mobile phone, checked '1234' and '0000', created the /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf (there was no such file, why?) with passkey '1234' and restart bluetooth, but get the same. Can you help me?
[12:20] <Radtoo> chuuk: sounds a bit like the TERM variable wouldn't be set until then...
[12:21] <Radtoo> chuuk: what happens if you, say, export TERM="xterm" ? :)
[12:21] <Radtoo> chuuk: (hm... not sure if that works if its a child console tho.. guess its best to set it up before even xorg starts or something)
[12:22] <francisfelidae> Radtoo, hm... ok. thanks. I think I have to reboot. I wish I was back to windows. I could have the same problems there...
[12:22] <chuuk> Radtoo: That's what I'm thinking of doing...going to boot into GNOME and muck around with some settings for a bit
[12:22] <chuuk> Radtoo: brb, thanks again
[12:24] <Radtoo> francisfelidae, chuuk: np :)
[12:27] <est> Anyone with experience in setting up google chrome?
[12:28] <est> Just got the source
[12:28] <new2Linux> Radtoo: find my output for 'sudo hwinfo --network': http://pastebin.com/d103a037c
[12:29] <Radtoo> new2Linux: the entire hwinfo or at least including usb...?
[12:29] <Radtoo> new2Linux: problem is, it only counts as networking device once it is recognized
[12:30] <B_Lix> hi guys
[12:30] <sergeykish> I found /etc/bluetooth/pin it contain "0000", but it is not accepted by device, that is wrong?
[12:30] <B_Lix> whats the best mail client to access IMAP account
[12:30] <B_Lix> ?
[12:31] <Alexia> est, do you mind if I send you a private mssage?
[12:31] <Alexia> message
[12:31] <lazka> QuodLibet PPA: https://launchpad.net/~lazka/+archive/dumpingplace
[12:32] <JGodbout> Would anyone know of a program to fiddle with user accounts on a Windows partition? I need to be able to view all of the users on my Windows partition, and possibly change their passwords
[12:32] <tizbac> to view them use ophcrack
[12:32] <JGodbout>  Nah, don't need to view them
[12:33] <est> Alexia: no please do
[12:34] <new2Linux> Radtoo: sorry about that - new output at: http://pastebin.com/d1c1534f1. I think the adaptor info is shown on line line 5483
[12:36] <u19809> hi all, i have installed SWAT to administer my samba server.  I cannot login.  user gets rejected according to the log ... help !
[12:37] <kaushal> hi
[12:38] <hackoo> what is difference between dpkg and apt-get and aptitude ?
[12:38] <hackoo> and sypnatic too?
[12:38] <kaushal> can i get deb packages for http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution-mapi/0.27/ in Jaunty
[12:39] <lstarnes> hackoo: dpkg manages packages, but not the repositories
[12:39] <Nielsen> apt-get is a frontend for dpkg - aptitude is a frontend for apt
[12:39] <lstarnes> hackoo: apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic are all related to apt, which manages repositories
[12:40] <joaopinto> niekie, apt-get is not a frontend for dpkg, it is a front end for apt
[12:40] <joaopinto> ops, Nielsen
[12:41] <Nielsen> ... well yes, that too
[12:41] <Leya_> hallöchen hier
[12:43] <dragonrigs> helo
[12:43] <new2Linux> Radtoo??
[12:43] <Radtoo> new2Linux: reading... :)
[12:44] <ironfoot_495> Hello I'm having problems installing vmware and trying to install vista can't get to work can someone help me fix this???
[12:45] <new2Linux> Radtoo: lol, sorry about all the lines!
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Hola Ubunteros
[12:46] <hackoo> lstarnes, ok
[12:46] <livingdaylight> I'm finding it difficult to remove wine apps from my menu list. Using Ubuntu 9.04 and having removed a folder i still see it in my menu the uninstall feature didn't work, so i physically removed it from the .wine folder; yet, the applications stil shows in my applications menu.
[12:46] <livingdaylight> The reason for the removal was because i asked to re-install it. If i reinstall the applications with the old folders showing in the applications menu, will that cause a conflict?
[12:47] <Radtoo> new2Linux: no, its great. all the hw info in one go :P
[12:48] <smn_> Hey guys and chicks :) I got a ASUS laptop and having some trouble making the > key to acctually print the > sybol when writing. the preferences of layout dont manage to include the symbol. Any way to assign the key the right symbol in ubuntu? like the windows has that keymap tihngy?
[12:49] <Radtoo> new2Linux: anyhow you're right, that's certainly your wlan adapter on that line. I guess that model doesn't have native linux drivers either (that's not from hwinfo but google btw).
[12:49] <Radtoo> new2Linux: So... i guess you have to use ndiswrapper :/
[12:50] <BlackDalek> How do I install the latest version of open office downloaded from the open office website? I can't find any install instructions....
[12:50] <new2Linux> Radtoo: what is the process I need to follow to use ndiswrapper for this device?
[12:52] <smn_> blackdalek: you already got a version of openoffice?
[12:52] <Radtoo> new2Linux: detailed guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper . though it is quite simple (although it usually doesn't work without pains)... 1. Install ndiswrapper. 2. Get a few versions of the windows drivers, extract them. 3. use "sudo ndiswrapper -i" on the windows drivers .inf file.
[12:52] <ironfoot_495> anyone familiar with vmware on ubuntu 8.10 trying to install vista on it.
[12:53] <BlackDalek> I want to know how to install the current version - the one in the repos is out of date (as usual)
[12:53] <Radtoo> ironfoot_495: I am sorta, but I'd recommend virtualbox.
[12:53] <Nielsen> ironfoot_495, which version of vmware?
[12:54] <new2Linux> Radtoo: thanks. How do you mean 'extract' the drivers? From the archive? The Netgear website only seems to offer the full software install package (no driver only) - what do you suggest, installing under Wine?
[12:54] <ironfoot_495> Radtoo 1.07
[12:54] <NetEcho> is there a way to repair a swap partition from the livecd while fixing grub?
[12:54] <Radtoo> new2Linux: yep. install under wine or in windows... there may also be ways to unpack the exe depending on what it is.
[12:54] <marie> slt comment faire pour le son soi plus fort
[12:55] <NetEcho> !english | mariuz
[12:55] <NetEcho> err
[12:55] <NetEcho> !english | marie
[12:55] <marie> no
[12:55] <marie> sorry
[12:55] <NetEcho> its ok
[12:55] <ironfoot_495> I keep getting an error  that won't allow me too install vista???
[12:56] <ironfoot_495> Radtoo
[12:56] <Alexia> please post the error ironfoot_495
[12:56] <NetEcho> ironfoot_495 join ##windows if its problems installing windows
[12:56] <Radtoo> new2Linux: if for instance "file setup.exe" indicates it is in fact a rar / zip or somesuch that can be extracted without wine.
[12:56] <aaron11> helo
[12:56] <Alexia> aaron11, hi
[12:56] <ironfoot_495> yeah but it's under ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:56] <smn__> Hey guys and chicks :) I got a ASUS laptop and having some trouble making the > key to acctually print the > sybol when writing. the preferences of layout dont manage to include the symbol. Any way to assign the key the right symbol in ubuntu? like the windows has that keymap tihngy?
[12:57] <Alexia> smn_, do you mind if i send you a private message
[12:57] <grawity> smn__: X11 has the 'xmodmap' tool.
[12:57] <ironfoot_495> ok EXI just a minute
[12:57] <smn__> no i dont alexia
[12:58] <grawity> smn__: But, can you first try going to console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and testing the key using 'showkey'?
[12:58] <smn__> grawity i have no idea how to use that tool. im afraid im to a newb to use it
[12:58] <ironfoot_495> ALEXIA JUST A MINUTE OK!
[12:58] <Alexia> ironfoot_495, ?
[12:59] <BlackDalek> I downloaded Open Office 3.1.1 from the web site.. I have ended up with three folders - "DEBS", "Licences" and "Readmes", and one file "Update". The Readmes folder contains no useful installation instruction - in fact it doesn't contain any installation instruction at all, except for system requirements and what to do if installation fails... so... How do I install this?
[13:00] <Alexia> ironfoot_495, did you need me to help you with something?
[13:00] <Radtoo> BlackDalek: why not install oo.o using the normal package manager?
[13:00] <Alexia> BlackDalek, it might be easier to install using apt-get
[13:00] <Alexia> BlackDalek, or synaptic
[13:01] <BlackDalek> Radtoo, I wanted to try the latest version instead of the out-of-date Ubuntu repos version
[13:01] <Radtoo> ironfoot_495: ... someone else already asked, can you post the error message or not?
[13:01] <Alexia> BlackDalek, sometimes though they dont update it repositories because it breaks something
[13:02] <Radtoo> BlackDalek: if you're prepared to break stuff, try the launchpad variants: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa ...
[13:02] <Leya_> Hello togehter. Have you recognised the terrible Breakdowns jesterdy Night?
[13:02] <Radtoo> BlackDalek: Still less risky than doing it any other way tho.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !clone > ActionParsnip
[13:04] <BlackDalek> Radtoo, hmm...ok I will look at that
[13:04] <nathanmarck> How do i check where a drive mounted to?
[13:04] <Radtoo> nathanmarck: "mount" on the console
[13:04] <Alexia> nathanmarck, i usually add the disk mounting applet to the panel
[13:04] <lijian> who use meizu M8
[13:04] <Alexia> nathanmarck, makes things super easy
[13:04] <flaviosnm> Morning!
[13:04] <ironfoot_495> Radtoo: could not openn /dev/vmnet1 No such file or directory Virtual device ethernet0 will start disconnect
[13:05] <Alexia> flaviosnm, Good morning
[13:05] <Radtoo> ironfoot_495: ... that probably isn't a fatal error though... anything else?
[13:05] <Leya_> Ohh no, the Update Manager is failing again! What the Hell is on here? I just got the latest updates an d then he wanted a partial upgrade. But as I wanted to run the Upgrade, I received an error-message...
[13:05] <nathanmarck> Thanks i got it
[13:05] <Alexia> your welcome nathanmarck
[13:06] <flaviosnm> Does anyone knows a tutorial for installation in the ubuntu?
[13:06] <smn__> terrible discconect
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> nathanmarck: you cant mount a drive, you can only mount partitions
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !install | flaviosnm
[13:06] <smn__> alf ctrol and what was it ? :)
[13:07] <Alexia> smn_, f1
[13:07] <smn__> thx alexia
[13:07] <Alexia> smn_, that will take you to a terminal and then to get back press ctrl alt f7
[13:07] <ironfoot_495> Radtoo:ok It's working now WoW!!!
[13:08] <smn__> grawity the alt-ctrl F1 just takes me to a huge terminal that i cant close (dont know howto at least)
[13:09] <flaviosnm> sorry! I forgot the principal word...Ansys. Tutorial of Ansys installation in the ubuntu
[13:09] <Alexia> smn_, see my earlier message
[13:09] <ironfoot_495> I just didn't wait long enough!!!
[13:09] <grawity> smn__: That's a virtual console. On a fresh install, there are seven -- the seventh (...+F7) is running X (the GUI).
[13:09] <Alexia> smn_, ctrl+alt+f7
[13:09] <grawity> smn__: Ctrl-Alt-F7 will switch to GUI.
[13:09] <spoon-verry> #linuxeinsteiger.net
[13:09] <grawity> smn__: But anyway, go to the first one or whatever, then login, and use 'showkey' command.
[13:09] <Radtoo> ironfoot_495: okay...
[13:11] <Ozzah> Hey do you guys know if Alexia is in this channel often?
[13:11] <smn__> kb mode was UNICODE
[13:11] <Alexia> You can just ask me Ozzah
[13:11] <smn__> grawity
[13:12] <smn__> or alexia :)
[13:12] <Alexia> Ozzah, im on fairly often why?
[13:12] <Ozzah> Alexia: thanks for helping me with the multiple file thing
[13:12] <grawity> smn__: When showkey is running, press the non-working key, and check if it works
[13:12] <Ozzah> Alexia: it worked great... you solved my problem. I appreciate it :)
[13:12] <smn__> im on it
[13:12] <Alexia> Ozzah, your welcome im glad i could help
[13:13] <flixil> Hello. I'm using the ubuntu cdlive and I managed to get sound using the ubuntu sound manager on gnome. Is there a way to chose digital stereo IEC958 without using that sound manager (sound preferences)? Thanks
[13:13] <smn__> grawity i get press ans relase text. so its there
[13:13] <Alexia> smn__, are you making any progress?
[13:14] <Reggy-_> how do i see the speed of my ram blocks ?
[13:14] <vatts> which command would synchronise \\somecomp\photos to  /home/me/photos, only those which aren't inside? (somecomp -> ubuntu comp synchronise)
[13:14] <smn__> some alexia
[13:14] <flixil> I would like to know how to do it with console commands if possible
[13:14] <Reggy-_> how do i see the speed of my ram blocks, in terminal ?*
[13:14] <grawity> vatts: rsync
[13:15] <vatts> grawity: you could tell me this in ##linux, perhaps... ty
[13:15] <arand> flixil: alsamixer ?
[13:16] <Formatissue> Was wondering if anyone knows what program i need to use to format my HDD from fat32 to NTFS? Thanks.
[13:16] <flixil> arand, yes... but how to change the hardware profile in alsamixer? I found no way... I was playing with it before thinking of using this graphic app.
[13:16] <smn__> grawity Alexia i get press ans relase text. so the button reacts at least
[13:16] <Alexia> Formatissue, `you can use gparted
[13:17] <Formatissue> gparted was the name! thank you :)
[13:17] <Alexia> Formatissue, your welcome
[13:19] <smn_> alexia im back
[13:20] <boza> How to format disk with ubuntu ?
[13:21] <Trijntje> Hi all. In applications -> add software there is a star rating for each packet. is this rating based on the use of the application or the number of installs?
[13:22] <jef_> Trijntje, I think it's the number of installs
[13:22] <joaopinto> Trijntje, number of installs
[13:22] <jef_> Trijtnje, when installing Ubuntu you can choose to submit your data
[13:22] <jef_> Trijntje, but it's not enables by default i believe?
[13:22] <klaus_freestyle> hello
[13:22] <Trijntje> joaopinto: thanks
[13:23] <klaus_freestyle> someone plays chess?
[13:23] <Trijntje> jef_: true, but i'm helping translate ubuntu in my native language, and its better to do the popular apps first.
[13:23] <joaopinto> !ot | klaus_freestyle
[13:24] <klaus_freestyle> I cant start chess in 3d mode
[13:24] <KaiForce> for those of you using firefox/thunderbird, what are you using for calendar?
[13:24] <grawity> KaiForce: Mozilla Lightning.
[13:24] <grawity> KaiForce: It's an addon for Thunderbird, can sync with Google Calendar too.
[13:24] <KaiForce> grawity: sweet thanks, that's what I'm looking for.
[13:25] <klaus_freestyle> After I choose the 3d option, the chess dont start
[13:25] <grawity> KaiForce: There's a separate program Mozilla Sunbird, does basically the same but isn't integrated with Thunderbird.
[13:25] <KaiForce> i've seen sunbird, but since I was still using MS Office I didn't use it much
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> klaus_freestyle:  that 3d option has NEVER worked.. that ive seen.. in the last few releases.. Im not sure it has ever worked at all.
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> klaus_freestyle:  use the 2d options.
[13:26] <klaus_freestyle> thanks, but I cant start to change 3d to 2d mode
[13:26] <klaus_freestyle> it saved this option
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> klaus_freestyle:  find the config file the program uses and delete it i guess. or check the command line options for the program it may have some arguments
[13:27] <klaus_freestyle> thanks, I will try this
[13:28] <Reggy-_> is there any memory read/write/latency test program for ubuntu ?
[13:31] <Leya_> hallo zusammen, kann ich euch irgendwie helfen?
[13:33] <joaopinto> !de | Leya_
[13:33] <M> \who
[13:34] <Reggy-_> is there anything like sandra or everest for ubuntu ?
[13:34] <peterz> is that something like nagios?
[13:35] <hellome> how to stop a running script? if ctrl c wont stop it?
[13:35] <Reggy-_> peterz: i dont know, will nagios show you memory read/write/latency ?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> hellome:  kill command with the right arguments, might.
[13:36] <hellome> dr how to do kill command "say the file name of the script is -- dopings.sh"
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> hellome:  check  ps , or 'ps ax' to get the process id. then kill the id
[13:37] <negev> hi, im running a hardy server and it has php 5.2.4-2-ubuntu5.6. i was looking for a ddeb earlier and the only one available is 5.2.4-2-ubuntu5.7, but if i apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade   there is no upgrade available for php. does that mean i need to dist-upgrade?
[13:37] <mazda01> hellome, sudo kill dopings.sh or maybe you have to know the pid number by using ps aux | grep dopings.sh
[13:37] <Reggy-_> hellome: you can use htop, to kill stuff. search with F3 and kill it with F9 :)
[13:38] <xanderdude> how can i tell ngrep not to print a '#' for every useless packet it catches?
[13:38] <wartalker> how to remove the path name in terminal, xxxx @ xxxx xxxx
[13:38] <mazda01> negev, do you have the backports repository enabled?
[13:38] <llutz> wartalker: change PS1
[13:39] <xanderdude> oh nevermind, it's -q for quiet, duh. :]
[13:39] <wartalker> llutz: how
[13:39] <hellome> my laptop reach critical temp when i make a script, i'm worried next time running bad written script... ( do you guys have a webpage showing how to type the commands to stop a running script?)?
[13:39] <llutz> wartalker: read bootprompt-howto
[13:39] <grawity> wartalker: the default PS1 is \u@\h \w\$
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> wartalker:  thats the bash prompt stff if you are refering to the info at the 'start' of every command line.
[13:39] <grawity> wartalker: figure out which one means the "working directory"
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> wartalker:  yes. the bash prompt howto - is a must read. :)
[13:40] <Vndmtrx> lol
[13:40] <mazda01> hellome, i said if it's still running you can fine out the pid of it and maybe kill it with a sudo kill pid#here
[13:41] <mazda01> fine=find
[13:41] <hellome> how to get the pid 3?
[13:41] <hellome> how to get the pid #?
[13:41] <stefan___> y
[13:41] <grawity> hellome: ps -ef
[13:41] <mazda01> hellome, or, ps aux | grep dopings.sh
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> hellome: or 'ps ax | grep PATTERNOFTHEPROGRAM'
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> dident we just answer that? :)
[13:42] <llutz> pgrep dopings.sh
[13:42] <wartalker> thanks all
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> time to check out 'bash job controll'  theres proberly 12+ ways to get the pid.
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> ohh pgrep.. thats one ive not used in years
[13:42] <mazda01> that's awesome, pgrep that is.
[13:43] <llutz> pkill to save one step
[13:43] <mazda01> that's what's so cool about linux. you learn something new all the time!
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> I always forget the specilized commands.
[13:43] <hellome> haha
[13:43] <hellome> :)
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> My fave however is 'unp'
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[13:43] <llutz> specialized? cli-basics! :)
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  ps ax | grep  -> the basics. :)
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> i rember the old says when it was ps -ax (i think)
[13:44] <llutz> Dr_Willis: naa, too much typing
[13:44] <hellome> my amd turion x2 got almost burned by a simple script (reach critical temp)
[13:44] <hellome> haha
[13:45] <mazda01> hellome, not a good script then I would say.
[13:45] <SkyNetMaster> Hi I got crazy "Makefile:11: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?)." error, how can I convert all 8 spaces to tab?
[13:46] <BinWasel> hello
[13:46] <BinWasel> i need help please
[13:46] <mazda01> BinWasel, hello
[13:46] <BinWasel> hell mazda
[13:46] <mazda01> BinWasel, just ask instead of telling us you need help
[13:46] <grawity> Dr_Willis: ps ax (without dashes) is BSD style, ps -ef (with a dash) is SysV/POSIX, if I remember correctly.
[13:46] <BinWasel> pls i want to instaal  pakege deb
[13:46] <hellome> mazda01, my first time to write the script.... just a very simple one... ip sequence pings....
[13:46] <BinWasel> how to do?
[13:47] <mazda01> BinWasel, you should be able to install it from the command line using dpkg -i packagenamehere I think.
[13:47] <llutz> SkyNetMaster: use "unexpand"
[13:48] <mazda01> hellome, oh, have you goggled it. i am sure there are already plenty of examples to follow.
[13:48] <BinWasel> i did that befeor but the command lkine not atual with me no
[13:48] <BinWasel> now*
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> hellome:  check out the 'sing'  command. its a scriptable ping variant
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> !info sing
[13:48] <mazda01> BinWasel, huh? what do you mean the command line isn't with you now?
[13:48] <BinWasel> dpkg --install pakagenane  ... is that command correct
[13:49] <mazda01> BinWasel, if that's what man dpkg says than yes.
[13:49] <BinWasel> no
[13:49] <Pici> BinWasel: You need to be in the same directory as the file to do that. Additionally, if you have a graphical environment, you should be able to just double click on the deb file to install it.
[13:49] <hellome> thanks dr & mazda
[13:50] <BinWasel> ok pici
[13:50] <mazda01> BinWasel, theres a gui installer for debs. i think it's called gdeb or something like that allows you to just double click on the deb file from a file browser like nautilus or konquerer
[13:50] <BinWasel> but what  if the pakgename has tar.gz extention?
[13:50] <grawity> BinWasel: .tar.gz archive?
[13:50] <Pici> BinWasel: Then its not a deb package. Its a compressed archive.
[13:50] <hellome> i tried what is suggested earlier but not working for me --- stop a running script
[13:50] <grawity> BinWasel: 1) unpack it.
[13:51] <grawity> BinWasel: 2) look for a file called "README" or "INSTALL" inside.
[13:51] <BinWasel> how grawity?
[13:51] <hellome> anyways
[13:51] <mazda01> BinWasel, then you need to either look for a package that's in the repos or a deb on the internet or build it from the source files which are most likely in the tar.gz
[13:51] <tigsworth> then probably ./configure file :)
[13:51] <mazda01> BinWasel, tar -xvvzf filename
[13:51] <SkyNetMaster> llutz, thank you! :)
[13:51] <mazda01> I just got this when doing an upgrade. E: linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[13:52] <grawity> BinWasel: tar xvf filename.tar.gz
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  'unp' is less typing. :P heh.
[13:53] <Daniel1> Hey
[13:53] <grawity> Dr_Willis: But harder to type and to remember
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> its favorite  commands that people rarely know about day!
[13:54] <grawity> strlen("tar xvf") < strlen("sudo apt-get install unp; unp");
[13:55] <grawity> I wonder how many people know about 'less file.tar.gz' or 'dog' or 'sl'
[13:55] <Daniel1> For some reason firefox will not download anything, all downloads get stuck on 'starting' and update manager is also slow, is there anything I can do?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  how about 'zmore' (or was it zless'
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Daniel1: is you ~/.mozilla folder owned by you? Is there space on the partition you are saving the file to?
[13:56] <Daniel1> definitely space, I'll check the ownership though
[13:58] <Hydrid> hello room
[13:58] <tigsworth> does anyone know what file /boot/grub/menu.lst is about please?
[13:58] <Radtoo> tigsworth: it contains the entries in the initial boot manager...
[13:58] <jigs> tigsworth that the configuration file for GRUP boot manager
[13:58] <grawity> jigs: GRUB*
[13:59] <jigs> yes, thanks for the correction
[13:59] <Radtoo> tigsworth: configures grub, in other words. you can configure that to specify to load what os and how.
[13:59] <jigs> can somebody where I can find the IPs of MSN of my contacts?
[13:59] <jigs> is there any plug-in or something for emesene or pidgin?
[13:59] <tigsworth> i was told to add acpi=force irqpoll to that file to help with mouse problems, does that sound about right?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> tigsworth:  grub is VERy well documented :) you need to change one  line in that file then rerun 'sudo update-grub' if you want that option for all your kernels.
[14:00] <Radtoo> tigsworth: Its worth a try but I'd personally reboot and hit "e" to edit it non-persistently
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> tigsworth:  what Radtoo  suggests is good for a 'test' befor you edit the file to make it permenet.
[14:00] <tigsworth> thanks, i'll try it
[14:00] <jigs> any help for me please :D
[14:01] <Daniel1> folder was owned by me any other ideas?
[14:01] <grawity> jigs: You cannot.
[14:01] <jigs> can somebody where I can find the IPs of my contacts on MSN (i.e emesene,pidgin, etc.)?
[14:01] <jigs> grawity why?
[14:01] <grawity> jigs: Because that's how MSN works.
[14:01] <Radtoo> jigs: uh, not all of these protocols provide you with an IP, I think.
[14:01] <jigs> grawity on windows I can easily do that using netstat :D
[14:02] <jigs> I am newbie for linux, so I do not know how
[14:02] <Radtoo> jigs: uh, have you tried like.. netstat on linux? :)
[14:02] <tigsworth> netstat works on linux too
[14:02] <llutz> jigs: try netstat
[14:02] <grawity> jigs: Linux has netstat too.
[14:03] <serp>  Someone on the internet said netstat on linux
[14:03] <grawity> jigs: But MSN doesn't show you the other side's IP anyway, all messages go through a MSN server.
[14:03] <Radtoo> jigs: Even so I don't think it will work for all protocols. Of course it should work for the same as it does on windows. But some just go across an intermediate server. You only know the server's ip then.
[14:03] <jigs> lol, haha I didn't figured out, thanks guys
[14:03] <grawity> jigs: So I doubt it can work even on Windows.
[14:03] <tigsworth> i wouldn't trust an ip stack on windows ;)
[14:03] <IdleOne> hmmm I wonder does netstat work on linux
[14:03] <Radtoo> IdleOne: yes, it does. but its not the "windows" netstat... its just a linux equivalent.
[14:03] <Alexia> tigsworth, lol
[14:04] <IdleOne> Radtoo: :) I was being sarcastic but thank you for answering
[14:04] <tigsworth> what i would do is watch the router traffic
[14:04] <Radtoo> IdleOne: ah, sorry :P
[14:04] <Hydrid> how to make pidgin to connect to 3 channels simulationaly when i first open it???
[14:04] <grawity> Hydrid: Add those channels to your contact list.
[14:05] <shakaran> some channel for launchpad ppa?
[14:05] <Hydrid> grawity: you mean buddy list?
[14:05] <coolguy4> hi, I'm trying to install a 32bit firefox plugin using nspluginwrapper. The plugin is Flash debugger (Flash with debugger) and there is no 64 bit version. When I do nsplugin wrapper -i libflashplayer.so , I get  a message error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . But that file exists in in /usr/lib
[14:05] <grawity> Hydrid: Yeah
[14:05] <Hydrid> :) thanks man
[14:05] <eka> hi all
[14:06] <Alexia> tigsworth, I love that "I wouldn't trust an ip stack on windows" thats so freaking hilarous I love it
[14:06] <eka> having the local mail account like myuser@localhost , how can I create an alias (this is the default mail account)
[14:06] <tigsworth> flashplugin-nonfree ?
[14:07] <shakaran> I upload a .deb to my ppa, and dput says Successfully uploaded packages., but in launchpad I cant see the packages, some wrong?
[14:07] <Pici> shakaran: Launchpad support is in #launchpad, they should be able to help you.
[14:07] <shakaran> Pici: thanks
[14:08] <Beefcakes> hello, i have a vgn-cr50b/pcg-5j6n, its a japanese vaio, does anyone else have the same here?
[14:08] <eurythmia> I tried using ipblock, and it completely b0rked my iptables ... is there some way I can regenerate iptables to a fresh configuration, say, what it would have looked like on install?
[14:08] <Daniel1> any more ideas on my firefox non downloading issue?
[14:08] <Beefcakes> im thinking of installing ubuntu because its preloaded with vista and its so slow
[14:08] <tigsworth> so web pages work, but downloading doesn't?
[14:08] <Radtoo> Beefcakes: wait, what? preloaded with vista and slow?
[14:08] <miTzaH> i managed to get 9.0.4 on a memory stick and make it bootable but it starts in console mode. how do i get the GUI working ?
[14:08] <homebrewcider> hey there, I was wondering, if I drop another hdd into my server computer, will it show up as another hdd as it would in windows, or just one massive one.
[14:09] <Daniel1> yes, thats right tigsworth
[14:09] <orion> help
[14:09] <tigsworth> another icon
[14:09] <Radtoo> homebrewcider: you need to partition it first and select a filesystem...
[14:09] <BinWasel> hi
[14:09] <orion> Wine full screen
[14:09] <homebrewcider> it would be fat32
[14:09] <tigsworth> have you tried, downloading in another browser? just as a trial and error?
[14:10] <BinWasel> how i can install package  rpm on ubuntu
[14:10] <IdleOne> orion: that was not a question, you might want to add a little more detail to it and ask in #winehq
[14:10] <Radtoo> homebrewcider: ah. well, then you simply decide "where" it shows up unless you let it be auto-detected. In which case I think it ends up in /media  after you access it.
[14:10] <eurythmia> BinWasel, alien
[14:10] <homebrewcider> is a sata hdd connected to a pci sata card going to pose a problem?
[14:10] <BinWasel> ho
[14:10] <llutz> BinWasel: you shouldn't do it at all. if you really need: use alien
[14:10] <BinWasel> how
[14:10] <miTzaH> i managed to get 9.0.4 on a memory stick and make it bootable but it starts in console mode. how do i get the GUI working ?
[14:10] <Radtoo> homebrewcider: as long as the pci sata card is supported, not at all.
[14:10] <eurythmia> BinWasel, but it's not nice. That would be your last resort (even further back than building your own deb)
[14:10] <tigsworth> rpms are for red hat, look for debs
[14:10] <Daniel1> no, as far as I knew firefox was the only pre-installed one, so how would I get another browser to try it on? Unless there is another one in which case what?
[14:10] <Alexia> Beefcakes, i dont have a japanese vaio but i might still be able to help you
[14:11] <homebrewcider> aha, cheers
[14:11] <Radtoo> homebrewcider: I might be able to tell if it is if you have the model or chipset - of course you could also google or just try it.
[14:11] <Beefcakes> Alexia: thank you, it's very much appreciated as im new to linux itself
[14:12] <Paulo39> does anyone can tell me which command gives me the environment that i'm in? like if i am in gnome or in kde
[14:12] <jigs> seems like I can not determine the IPs
[14:12] <Alexia> Beefcakes, what would you like help with?
[14:12] <eurythmia> Paulo39, you should be able to tell by looking.
[14:12] <Beefcakes> does anyone know of any software that can do an inventory in windows so i know what my hardware is?
[14:13] <Beefcakes> it's running japanese vista so i dont really know my way around
[14:13] <homebrewcider> Sil3114 chip
[14:13] <grawity> Beefcakes: PC Info, Everest, ...
[14:13] <tigsworth> grab epiphany from add/remove programs
[14:13] <nightrid3r> Beefcakes: aida32
[14:13] <Beefcakes> what's the best option?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Beefcakes: this is ubuntu support, not windows. go to ##windows for windows support
[14:13] <Paulo39> eurythmia: i know, but i want to make a script, which makes actions depending on which environment i am in
[14:13] <Beefcakes> i've downloaded and burnt ubuntu to a cd
[14:13] <Radtoo> Beefcakes: hwinfo32 - pendant to hwinfo on linux is my fav.
[14:13] <Radtoo> Beefcakes: in fact using lshw or hwinfo on ubuntu should also work tho?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Beefcakes: then you can run the hardware manager. this has nothing to do with windows if you are booted to ubuntu live cd
[14:14] <Beefcakes> ActionParsnip: sorry:) was just getting ready to get rid of windows so i know what hardware im dealing with before i install ubuntu
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Beefcakes: you can also run: lspci
[14:14] <eurythmia> Paulo39, to a script, it doesn't matter. It's being run from a console session, which has no idea about X.
[14:14] <Beefcakes> is this 700mb iso ive downloaded from the ubuntu website (ubuntu desktop) a live cd?
[14:14] <eurythmia> ... for the most part.
[14:15] <dare> Beefcakes: yes
[14:15] <Beefcakes> i'd like to know if it'll support my system before i install it
[14:15] <Alexia> Beefcakes, yep
[14:15] <grawity> Beefcakes: Yes, the Ubuntu CD is both a LiveCD and installer.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Beefcakes: if it runs in the livecd it will work out of the box once installed
[14:15] <homebrewcider> the sata card has a Sil3114 chip
[14:15] <tigsworth> yeah so boot from cd, and try without making any changes
[14:15] <Beefcakes> oh, thank you, i'll try that
[14:15] <eurythmia> Paulo39, your best bet would be to write different scripts based on the session, but if you *really* want to go through the hassle, read about .XSession
[14:15] <Gnome64> How many of the people asking questions here read the entire Ubuntu documentation ?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Beefcakes: it can be, the desktop iso is, the alternate cd is an installer only
[14:15] <grawity> Gnome64: There _is_ the Ubuntu documentation?
[14:15] <grawity> Gnome64: Besides the wiki, thatis
[14:16] <Alexia> Gnome64, probably nobody
[14:16] <Alexia> Gnome64, Well no im sure some people have
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> grawity: all over, use wesearches
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Gnome64: few, but were here to help
[14:17] <Paulo39> eurythmia: my problem is that i have a process that runs automatically when i start . is awn. but, i wnat it to just start in case of i am running gnome... now, i have gnome and kde, and when i enter in kde, awn starts automatically and i dont want that
[14:17] <kartik> Hi can any one help me with installing Video Drivers../?
[14:17] <dare> Paulo39: check whether gnome-session is runnng
[14:17] <Radtoo> kartik: ... hm, usually that's not needed, but explain?
[14:18] <kartik> i have a SIS mirage
[14:18] <kartik> i downloaded drivers from www.sis.com but i get the following error
[14:18] <Paulo39> dare, how can i do that?
[14:18] <kartik> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[14:18] <kartik> Fatal server error:
[14:18] <kartik> Server is already active for display 0
[14:18] <kartik> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[14:19] <kartik> 	and start again.
[14:19] <natrixnatrix89> hi. I have a network-related question. If a have a router at home that makes all the pc's at home have the same ip address in the internet, but they all have different ip's at local network. Is there a way I could access my computer from the internet? For example if i use vinagre from another house and want to see my pc's screen and I know both the routers ip address and the ip of my pc on the local net..
[14:19] <FloodBot2> kartik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <kartik> ohh sorry
[14:19] <dare> Paulo39: you'd have to write a script
[14:19] <Gnome64> I can see that myself. I was trying to help in my local forum, but after 120 posts there I stopped helping because people just can't seem to understand that moving to Linux/Ubuntu involves reading/learning new staff, unfamiliar to them, that can be found easily on the Ubuntu.com site.
[14:19] <kartik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263101/
[14:20] <llutz> natrixnatrix89: use dyndns-services + routers port-forwarding ability
[14:20] <nightrid3r> kartik: http://ncc-1701a.homelinux.net/~linux-sis/index.php?page=Downloads
[14:20] <tigsworth> natrix, vnc?
[14:20] <natrixnatrix89> yep
[14:20] <kartik> which driver should i download
[14:20] <kartik> ?
[14:20] <Paulo39> dare: is possible to you to help me? i just want awn to just start when i'm in gnome,is that difficult?
[14:20] <tigsworth> port forwarding?
[14:20] <nightrid3r> kartik: they work good for my mirage
[14:20] <dare> kartik: xorg-driver-sis671_0.9_i386.deb
[14:20] <natrixnatrix89> doesnt really work
[14:21] <Pici> !who
[14:21] <natrixnatrix89> the port forwarding
[14:21] <coolguy4> I need some help using nspluginwrapper
[14:21] <dare> kartik: beware it only has video acceleration, no 3d graphics support
[14:21] <xikteny> Paulo39: check for the existence of $GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID
[14:21] <kartik> ok
[14:21] <IdleOne> Gnome64: the Ubuntu way of thinking is to help each other. Frustrating as it may be at times. RTFM is not an acceptable answer to any question. so when you get to the point where you want to tell someone to RTFM, go play a game or something :)
[14:21] <Paulo39> xikteny: how can i do that?
[14:21] <natrixnatrix89> which was the only free dyndns service?
[14:21] <tigsworth> i used ultra vnc on both pcs, had router to forward port # to internal ip and that worked ok,
[14:22] <llutz> natrixnatrix89: zapto.org?
[14:22] <natrixnatrix89> tigsworth - please tell me more about port forwarding.
[14:22] <kartik> should i install it
[14:22] <natrixnatrix89> Ilutz yeah.. thanks
[14:22] <xikteny> Paulo39: You's need to write it into a script, so it would depend on what you wrote said script in
[14:22] <grawity> natrixnatrix89: afraid.org
[14:23] <mazda01> natrixnatrix89, if you have a router which gives you a personal ip address then you need to forward a port to your internal ip address.
[14:23] <smn_> im starting school this week and we are going to lerarn to program... i so need a easier a way to make the <> symbols then copy-paste method. any idea how i can maybe.. link a button the the symbols?
[14:23] <tigsworth> http://portforward.com/  pick your router and your program
[14:23] <Paulo39> xikteny: ok, but i dont know how to write that script
[14:24] <natrixnatrix89> tigsworth: thank you very much
[14:24] <Radtoo> smn_: ... do you have keyboard issues?
[14:24] <mazda01> smn_, it probabaly depends on the text editor your using
[14:24] <natrixnatrix89> will try to study this
[14:24] <tigsworth> np good luck
[14:24] <Radtoo> smn_: even the most standard "us" keyboard layout should have them, and I don't think any other layout is missing them either...
[14:25] <kartik> when i try installing  xorg-driver-sis671_0.9_i386.deb i get this error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/263104/
[14:25] <smn_> radtoo im having keyboad issues, yes and say i want to use the text editor as program to write or kade maybe.
[14:25] <mazda01> Radtoo, he's asking how to link <> to a key so that it's easy to put those in place when writing code
[14:25] <c00w-cRr> co_keren
[14:26] <Paulo39> on kde system settings i can make a command to just run automatically when i'm in kde, is not possible to do the same thing in gnome? i just want to run a command when i am in gnome
[14:26] <smn_> radtoo ive spent the last 2 hrs with alexia to find out about the layout thing. and none layut matches my keyboad. when i hit the  <> button it makes a ' and a * smbol, the last symbol with shift
[14:26] <smn_> trying to work my way around the layout problem at this point
[14:26] <mazda01> kartik, that usually means that your / folder is full. what does df -h show?
[14:27] <grawity> smn_: xmodmap
[14:27] <c00w-cRr> #buntu
[14:27] <mazda01> smn_, oh wow, i didn't think you had keyboard layout issues. are you in the us and have a us keyboard?
[14:27] <Radtoo> smn_: silly question, what about using the "us" layout? :)
[14:27] <The_Jag> Hi, I need a little help with VirtualBox: I need to be able to connect and disconnect a usb device from the virtual machine multiple times during the session, and I want that device to be each time recognised
[14:27] <grawity> smn_: just read the manpage section that says about 'keycode NUMBER = KEYSYMNAME'
[14:28] <smn_> grawity im far to noob to use xmodmap
[14:28] <mazda01> smn_, are other keys messed up or just the < and >?
[14:28] <xikteny> Paulo39: Yes you can do that
[14:28] <smn_> ive just those two mazda
[14:28] <dare> The_Jag: if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I've found virtualbox's usb support unreliable during my experience with it
[14:28] <Paulo39> xikteny: how?
[14:28] <smn_> grawity ive seen the site but i dont udnerstand how to do that.
[14:28] <mazda01> smn_, weird! and you're using the us keyboard layout?
[14:28] <grawity> smn_: "keysym somenumber = less greater" - replace the somenumber with the keycode from xev
[14:29] <kartik> mazda01 : the disk usage is not full
[14:29] <smn_> no im using a ausus laptop - norwegian
[14:29] <xikteny> Paulo39: on jaunty: System>Preferences>Startup Applications
[14:29] <Paulo39> i have gnome and kde installed on my ubuntu. i want gnome to have compiz active, but kde to have effects inactive.. is that possible? because when i disabled the effects on kde and then start gnome i have compiz disabled too
[14:29] <Paulo39> xikteny: yes..and then?
[14:29] <mazda01> kartik, well, when ever I get that error it's because there's no room for the system to save the user's Xauthorization file. are you sure /tmp isn't full or any folder?
[14:29] <eurythmia> I can't ping my workmachine from another machine on my network. Both have network access, and internet access. My work machine was fine until the other day when I installed ipblock on it ... now I can't even ping the machine. I've since removed ipblock, but don't know how to fix my settings.
[14:29] <Alexia> smn_, remember you said it mark a ' and a * character instead of the less/more symbl
[14:30] <xikteny> Paulo39: click "Add", fill out info
[14:30] <smn_> so much text here. graw and mazda care to send me a priv message
[14:30] <Alexia> smn_, so the key works but it gives the wrong output
[14:30] <smn_> thats correct alexia
[14:30] <smn_> correct again alexia
[14:30] <Radtoo> smn_: so, have you tried the "us" keyboard layout? I know it is not the same, but I suspect it might work.
[14:30] <kartik> mazda01 : if its full then how should i empty it
[14:30] <Alexia> smn_, and you said you have other keys too which give the wrong output
[14:30] <Alexia> smn_, im just restating that so everyone knows how to help
[14:31] <Paulo39> xikteny: and then?
[14:31] <mazda01> kartik, well, either it's full or it's not. what does df -h return? paste it at pastebin.com
[14:31] <The_Jag> @dare: ah, well... ok. funny thing is: I start virtualbox with no device attached but selected into the menu, then I attach it and it has been recognised. and if I disconnect it then I'm no more able to reconnect it... :( bah
[14:31] <gnomenklayture> hi guys, does anyone know how to export the package marking list by command line?
[14:31] <xikteny> Paulo39: if you create a new entry in Startup Applications, it should run whenever you log in to gnome
[14:31] <gnomenklayture> doing it with the gui produces a 0 kb plain text file
[14:31] <smn_> i got now model usa layout usa and same thing : '*
[14:31] <kartik> mazda01 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/263110/
[14:32] <Paulo39> xikteny: if i just do that, that command will run whenever i log in to gnome and whenever i log in to kde :S
[14:32] <natrixnatrix89> guys.. Which command in terminal would be similar to ipconfig in windows?
[14:32] <Radtoo> smn_: with us,  it won't be on the key its printed on... have you tried literally all keys? :)
[14:32] <Alexia> smn_, you also have the greater than and less than characters on one key together right
[14:32] <dare> natrixnatrix89: ifconfig ?
[14:33] <eurythmia> dare, you don't need the question mark ;)
[14:33] <mazda01> kartik, sent you a pm
[14:33] <xikteny> Paulo39: I _think_ gnome only... Don't have KDE here
[14:33] <natrixnatrix89> dare thanks :)
[14:33] <tigsworth> natrix, cat /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Paulo39: kde uses ~/.kde/Autostart folder, put scripts or symlinks to binarys and they will be ran at kde logon
[14:33] <smn_> yes randtoo just tried that. no more less symbol
[14:33] <IdleOne> Alexia: does he have a Fn key? it might be something like Fn+shift+key
[14:33] <smn_> yes alexia the symbols are on the same key
[14:34] <smn_> idel one yes i have a fn key
[14:34] <Beefcakes> i have a usb 3g modem, a ZTE MF622, is anyone using that under ubuntu?
[14:34] <xikteny> Can anyone else verify that? "Startup Applications" is gnome specific, right?
[14:34] <Radtoo> smn_: is your keyboard smaller than standard? some mini laptop thing? :)
[14:34] <Gnea> tigsworth, natrixnatrix89: ifconfig
[14:34] <mazda01> Beefcakes, have you tried goggle?
[14:34] <natrixnatrix89> tigsworth: nop.. I just wanted to find out all the ip addresses..
[14:34] <natrixnatrix89> Gnea: thanks
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> xikteny: yes as it simply adds the right info to ~/.gconf
[14:34] <smn_> radtoo its a laptop keyboad. ----------- look here http://img4.imageshack.us/i/dsc00088bnn.jpg/
[14:34] <xikteny> ActionParsnip: Thanks, just wanted to make sure.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> xikteny: np man
[14:35] <smn_> the fn key + shift makes no diference
[14:35] <kartik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263114/
[14:36] <Psi-Jack_> Just out of curiosity, will ubuntu actually make use of onboard fakeraid, allowing it to use the raid stripes, instead of the actual hdd's directly?
[14:36] <smn_> its so frustratring :_(
[14:36] <fnky> hi, what packages should I install to get sound working in ubuntu-server (jaunty)?
[14:36] <fnky> under virtualbox
[14:36] <IdleOne> !sound
[14:37] <linduxed1> was going to start coding haskell, what packages do i need?
[14:37] <Paulo39> ActionParsnip: in .kde/Autostart folder i dont have anything, but the awn is still running automatically
[14:37] <dare> IdleOne: he's using ubuntu server
[14:37] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, Nothing, it just uses the system sound itself. Now if you have a new sound card that sucks, it can't lock the sound onto multiple programs, only 1 at a time, and I'll bet right now, pulseaudio's taking it up.
[14:37] <fnky> idleone: I just need package names, I'm not having trouble configuring it
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Paulo39: then the session is being remembered
[14:37] <Radtoo> smn_: can't see anything on that picture, tbh. its some highly blurred photograph of a screen, but there's no keyboard?
[14:38] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, Sound is part of the kernel.
[14:38] <Paulo39> ActionParsnip: how can i do to the session is not being remebered?
[14:38] <fnky> psi-jack: I've installed ubuntu-server under virtualbox, it's an "ac97"
[14:38] <Psi-Jack_> Wait, what?
[14:38] <Psi-Jack_> Installed VirtualBox on a server?
[14:38] <Psi-Jack_> ARE YOU NUTS?
[14:38] <fnky> er
[14:38] <fnky> what?
[14:38] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, NEVER EVER EVER run X on a server.
[14:38] <Psi-Jack_> Even #ubuntu-server will say it's not supported, Canonical says, it's not supported.
[14:38] <fnky> psi-jack: I don't want X, just sound
[14:38] <smn_> im very sorry here correct pic http://img181.imageshack.us/i/dsc00087n.jpg/
[14:39] <xikteny> Psi-Jack_: vice-versa there
[14:39] <Psi-Jack_> And guess what. VirtualBox runs in X
[14:39] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: he is running ubuntu-server in VBox
[14:39] <Psi-Jack_> Oh
[14:39] <natrixnatrix89> where can I find out DNS server addreses?
[14:39] <fnky> psi-Jack: no, I've installed ubuntu-server UNDER virtualbox :)
[14:39] <fnky> as a vm
[14:39] <Psi-Jack_> Ewwww. That's just as bad! ;)
[14:40] <fnky> psi-jack: well, long story short I want to prep this to be my fileserver+asterisk box
[14:40] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, And you want to do this under a virtual machine environment?
[14:41] <fnky> psi-jack: no, I want to prepare the filesystem, configure asterisk, etc, without running the box 24/7...and then transfer it over and config the new hardware (which will be similar) when it's done
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Paulo39: if the session is not remembered you will need to add autostart items in that folder in ~/.kde
[14:41] <rakesh> hi everybody
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> natrixnatrix89: dig www.google.com
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> natrixnatrix89: the nameserver will be displayed
[14:42] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, Then why on earth would you even need sound? LOL   -- And why waste time building it as a virtual machine instead of just doing it?
[14:42] <Radtoo> smn_: I see. Thanks. Well, this is very regular position for these keys. I'd in fact expect it to work... suggestion, could you try a standard non-x console (ctrl-alt-f1 for instance, come back with f7 or f5)
[14:42] <mazda01> natrixnatrix89, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:42] <natrixnatrix89> ActionParsnip: so the DNS server addresses are the same for EVERYONE?
[14:42] <EsotericWombat> I'll sometimes lose my wireless connection and Ubuntu will say that my adapter is "not managed"  anyone know how to fix that?
[14:43] <Paulo39> ActionParsnip: ok.. but how can i do to not remember the sessions?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> natrixnatrix89: you can set it as mazda01 said in /etc/resolv.conf
[14:43] <smn_> radtoo did that earlier today and the key works...
[14:43] <eurythmia> soo ... any way to restore IP tables *without* reinstalling ubuntu ... anybody? anybody?
[14:43] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[14:43] <natrixnatrix89> found it
[14:43] <mazda01> natrixnatrix89, no, you normally use whatever dns server your isp is using but i use opendns servers.
[14:43] <fnky> psi-jack: I'd also like it to play sound out to my stereo system since it'll be sitting in the living room. as far as a vm, it's easier for me to config it that way when I have time
[14:43] <Radtoo> smn_: ah ha. so its just an x issue.
[14:44] <mazda01> natrixnatrix89, a lot of times, your router is a dns server forwarder but people run into problems because not many consumer routers are proper dns server forwarders. so I just set the opendns ones as mine
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Paulo39: To fix it, go to Control Center => KDE Components => Session Manager and unselect the checkbox "Restore previous session".
[14:44] <Psi-Jack_> eurythmia, Eh? Why would you ever need to reinstall? The answer: Serious and completely unrecoverable errors.. iptables is not ever unrecoverable.
[14:44] <rakesh> cn anyone hellp me....when i online form for particular mnc....i getting problem in ubuntu that it is telling me to fill the form in microsoft window explorer.....so is that any alternate web browser in linux
[14:44] <smn_> radntoo seems so
[14:44] <EsotericWombat> it'll wink out sometimes the moment I start typing in a chat window or something
[14:44] <Radtoo> smn_: should make us both happy since that at least means that hardware wise nothing is wired up in an odd way in your keyboard. some ppl aren't so lucky. :P
[14:44] <smn_> radtoo seems so
[14:44] <smn_> im felling rewaly lucky >P
[14:44] <rakesh> actually i m filling online form
[14:44] <fnky> psi-jack: regardless...the vm part shouldn't even be part of the equation, since there are so many abstraction layers (pulseaudio, alsa, jack...etc) between the os and the hardware
[14:44] <Halitech> fnky, are you planning on running everything in a vm on the new hardware as well?
[14:45] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, Oi.. Well, is it a file server, or is it a stereo box? It shouldn't be both.
[14:45] <Radtoo> smn_: so... next. how have you actually tried to manipulate the keyboard layout so far? kde's selection dialog? xorg's config? a hal fdi file?
[14:45] <fnky> halitech: nope
[14:45] <xikteny> rakesh: there is a firefox extension to fake your user-agent string
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> rakesh: install the user agent switcher
[14:45] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, No, Ubuntu Server doesn't even dare install that pulseaudio crap.  And alsa isn't a later, it's THE linux sound system.
[14:45] <Halitech> fnky, then transferring from a vm to an actual install is not going to be easy and you'll end up probably reinstalling everything anyway
[14:45] <fnky> psi-jack: why not? people run mythbuntu boxes with samba on them all the time, for instance
[14:45] <grawity> rakesh: or just change general.useragent.override in about:config, if you don't want to restart Firefox
[14:45] <mazda01> Psi-Jack, a box could be a file server and output to a stereo. that's what my mythtv does.
[14:46] <fnky> psi-jack: ubuntu server is the base for ubuntu desktop, am I wrong?
[14:46] <miTzaH> I installed ubuntu 9.0.4 ona  memory stick using unnetbootin and when i boot from it it brings me to a console. What am i supposed to do next ? it's my first experience with ubuntu/linux.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> rakesh: you can masquerade as IE then and the site will let you in. Opera has this built i and you can define what agent name you use for special sites
[14:46] <smn_> radtoo, no i havent
[14:46] <fnky> I can do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and install everything
[14:46] <Halitech> fnky, no, ubuntu server is just that, server
[14:46] <Psi-Jack_> mazda01, Oy. That's not a file server. That's a Myth box. :p
[14:46] <mazda01> Psi-Jack, i mean my box has tv capture cards and is also a file server.
[14:46] <smn_> and im a ubuntu n00b so be carefull on what you make me do :)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: did you md5 check the ISO you downloaded? Does the verification of the device pass too?
[14:46] <Radtoo> smn_: ... you have, according to what I heard earlier you somehow set this to us under xorg before? what exactly did you try there?
[14:46] <DEBUNTU73> HOW TO prevent fsck on JUST the next reboot (even if ext2/ext3 parameters would say so) WITHOUT using tune2fs?? (So NO change been done to the ext2/ext3 partition parameters)
[14:47] <mazda01> Psi-Jack, it has 4 tb in it, shared out via nfs and smb, so yes, it is a file server and a mythtv box.
[14:47] <Psi-Jack_> DEBUNTU73, Why would you want to do that?
[14:47] <t__Eest> hey guys, can someone helpe me with xchat + ssl ?
[14:47] <smn_> i havent modified any config file
[14:47] <fnky> halitech: ah, my mistake. I thought it was the basis for -desktop. does that mean that it looks at different apt packages etc by default?
[14:47] <Radtoo> smn_: so you just used some gui selection thingie? :)
[14:47] <fnky> I just want to know what the 'basic' sound support packages in ubuntu are
[14:47] <smn_> just tried diff layout with the layout thingy
[14:47] <smn_> aye
[14:47] <Psi-Jack_> mazda01, Well, that's somewhat different. ;)
[14:47] <miTzaH> ActionParsnip I downloaded the iso from the .com website so it should be genuine. Right after i boot from the stick theres a menu with 3 options , default , oem install and a third option. I go with default and then it shows an ubuntu picture and loading it but then a console comes up
[14:48] <fnky> I'll figure out any config problems myself as long as I know the package names :P
[14:48] <Halitech> fnky, server has a different kernel designed for servers, there is a minimal install you can do that ends in a command line and then add what you want
[14:48] <smn_> quick question. how can i set the xirc to no show me all the people leaving or joining channel? makes me crazy
[14:48] <Psi-Jack_> mazda01, That's a Mythbox. I'll bet all the files provided from it are dedicated video, and music, for use with myth, yes?
[14:48] <Paulo39> ActionParsnip: i think i solved the problem doing on gnome: System > Admini > Start Window Session and unselect the checkbox to disable multiple sessions
[14:48] <Paulo39> ActionParsnip: is that dangerous ?
[14:48] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, #ubuntu-server is the place for Ubuntu Server help. And they'll tell it to you just like me.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Paulo39: not at all
[14:49] <smn_> ah found it :)
[14:49] <Radtoo> smn_: okay. just to make absolutely sure, open a console. type "xev". hit the > key as it would be printed on your keyboard. tell me the "keysym" number it outputs when you do press it.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> fnky: if you do install the server release then install the desktop ontop you have gained nothing at all
[14:49] <smn_> working on it
[14:49] <mazda01> Psi-Jack, i don't know what you mean different. it doesn't serve out files that are from mythtv. it also has all my music, movies, and pictures. no, i use rhythembox for my music and the file server serves out files to my xbox xbmc and other computers. why is it so hard for you accept the fact that 1 computer can be a file server, web server, ftp server, ssh server, mythtv box and anything else I want?
[14:50] <Radtoo> smn_: I'd expect it to be 0x3c - that's 3c. :)
[14:50] <mazda01> Psi-Jack, i mean it does server out files for mythtv but that's not all.
[14:50] <Paulo39> ActionParsnip: nice, so i'll maintain this like that
[14:50] <fnky> psi-jack: thanks, I'll try there.
[14:50] <Psi-Jack_> fnky, I'll be waiting for ya there too. :p
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: you can have it doing all that and more
[14:51] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, exactly my point.
[14:51] <dayanandasaraswa> Hello all, I want to about ext2 file system..Can you tell me the IRC channel of file system developers?
[14:51] <smn_> keysym 0x27
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: its gona work the pc lots but it can
[14:51] <grawity> dayanandasaraswa: I doubt there's a channel just for that.
[14:51] <Psi-Jack_> mazda01, Because when you bog down a "server" too much, it becomes more just a mainframe in a small box, doing more the load than it's actually truely capable of in full.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> dayanandasaraswa: #ubuntu-devel may help
[14:51] <smn_> hmmm does it matter what layout i got atm?
[14:51] <fnky> psi-jack: well then, aside from the 'should' or 'shouldn't' part..are you telling me it's impossible to get sound working using standard ubuntu packages under server?
[14:51] <grawity> dayanandasaraswa: ext2 is quite an old one, too.
[14:52] <smn_> im back on the most accurate 102 generic model norwegian layout.....
[14:52] <miTzaH> ActionParsnip can i query you ?
[14:52] <DEBUNTU73> HOW TO prevent fsck on JUST the next reboot (even if ext2/ext3 parameters would say so) WITHOUT using tune2fs?? (So NO change been done to the ext2/ext3 partition parameters)
[14:52] <dayanandasaraswa> grawity: hmmm..Can you get me the closest possible channel..
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: if its a support question, as in the channel
[14:52] <Psi-Jack_> DEBUNTU73, Again, WHY would you want to do that? Answer this time and stop repeating.
[14:52] <dayanandasaraswa> ActionParsnip: Thanks..I'll check that out..
[14:52] <miTzaH> ActionParsnip I downloaded the iso from the .com website so it should be genuine. Right after i boot from the stick theres a menu with 3 options , default , oem install and a third option. I go with default and then it shows an ubuntu picture and loading it but then a console comes up
[14:52] <Radtoo> smn_: wait, silly me is looking at the wrong number in xev. gimme a sec.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: otherwise, sure
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: did you MD5 check the ISO file?
[14:52] <Radtoo> smn_: what's the keycode?
[14:52] <ikt> having a problem with wireless on my netbook, says wlan0: link is not ready
[14:52] <miTzaH> how do i do that ?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | miTzaH
[14:53] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, i have 8 gb of ram and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
[14:53] <smn_> radtoo http://pastebin.org/13925
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: you have no way of knowing the download is complete and not corrupted
[14:53] <ghostknife> How do I disable runlevel services?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !bum | ghostknife
[14:53] <Psi-Jack_> DEBUNTU73, Well? Are you going to actually respond when you're question's addressed?
[14:53] <FedEx> Hello.
[14:54] <mazda01> hello FedEx
[14:54] <Psi-Jack_> FedEx, Hey! You're supposed to be at my house, delivering my stuff!
[14:54] <Psi-Jack_> Get back to work!
[14:54] <FedEx> It's just a nickname and I just think about Roger Federer.
[14:55] <IdleOne> yeah and Neo's real name was Mr. Anderson
[14:55] <smn_> i actually lol'd
[14:55] <IdleOne> heh
[14:55] <Pici> !ot
[14:55] <mistrynitesh> hello all, how do I make my 8.04 installation see an ext4 partition?
[14:55] <mazda01> 32bit with PAE is the best way to go if you have more than 4 gb of ram
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> mistrynitesh: you need to install the ext4 modules
[14:56] <mistrynitesh> available in repos?
[14:56] <sipior> DEBUNTU73: you can always set the last (sixth) field to zero in the appropriate line in /etc/fstab
[14:56] <mazda01> because 64bit Linux applications will use about 160% of RAM (compared to 32bit). This is because of the different memory addressing.
[14:56] <Halitech> mazda01, why not go 64bit if you have more then 4gig of ram?
[14:56] <Radtoo> smn_: and that's really the key with a "<" printed on it? :/
[14:56] <mazda01> Halitech, see previous post
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: if you need the advantages of 64bit then 64bit will run better
[14:56] <smn_> radtoo thats the key i hit, yes
[14:56] <Halitech> mazda01, that makes no sense to me at all
[14:57] <mazda01> If you do not use special 64bit optimized programs (e.g. some sql apps etc.) then thers no point
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: audio and video encoding goes hugely faster with 64bit
[14:57] <DEBUNTU73> sipior: it should not be a permanent change, im looking for something that works just like that /forcefsck file, but the oposit way.. to PREVENT such a fscheck on just the next reboot. nothing like that available ?
[14:57] <sincere360> Anyone here tethered there bb
[14:57] <mazda01> Halitech, that's just my opinion
[14:57] <ivan-linux> hy
[14:57] <sipior> DEBUNTU73: it's not permanent. you just need to change the file back after the next boot.
[14:58] <smn_> but it makes a ' symbol......
[14:58] <Halitech> mazda01, I have 64 bit with 3gig of ram and I find I'm using less ram then I did with 32bit, also most apps are going to be 64bit if you have 64bit version installed
[14:58] <DEBUNTU73> sipior: if i have to change it back its permanent. im looking for something that is a ONE TIME SHOT like that flag file i mentioned.
[14:58] <ivan-linux> i need help, can anyone tell me if i can activate Compiz effects on Via s3g unichrome proIGP??
[14:58] <Psi-Jack_> DEBUNTU73, Oh, so NOW you respond. Lovely.
[14:58] <Sam-I-Am> howdy
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ivan-linux: if you have full 3d accelleration then yes
[14:59] <EsotericWombat> ugh.  I was just dropped again.  Does anyone know what to do when Ubuntu randomly stops managing a wireless device?
[14:59] <Psi-Jack_> DEBUNTU73, Well, I could've helped you, has you responded. But as of now, I'm ignoring you.
[14:59] <ivan-linux> yes, i have, but when i click to activate, it tells me thats impossible
[14:59] <sipior> DEBUNTU73: well, you can spend even more time looking for the perfect solution. or you can take 30 seconds and attempt the solution i illustrated. do as you like.
[14:59] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, you're correct. here's a good benchmark to show that. http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-904-32-bit-vs-64-bit-benchmarks
[14:59] <ivan-linux> i have ubuntu 9.04
[14:59] <sipior> Psi-Jack: ease up on the passive aggression, tiger :-)
[14:59] <Psi-Jack_> DEBUNTU73, But above all, stop repeating. Period.
[15:00] <Sam-I-Am> i'm configuring a karmic box to use ldap for auth... noticed that both su and sudo return errors as if something is blocking them from certain system calls... havent seen this before.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: i can useeither with equal performance as I chat and web broswe so either will do
[15:00] <IdleOne> #ubuntu+1 Sam-I-Am
[15:01] <miTzaH> ActionParsnip i got the md5 using nero's md5 checksum and it says 66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b
[15:01] <ivan-linux> actionParsnip: when i try to activate compiz it say: impossible to activate visual effects
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: does that match the md5 checksum it is supposed to have?
[15:01] <sincere360> Has anyone here use bbtether or barry? Which one does anyone recommend
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ivan-linux: have you installed drivers for your video card?
[15:01] <ivan-linux> i think.
[15:02] <Radtoo> smn_: ...its not what I expected. I wonder if the keyboard model affects the key code. Otherwise I'm at a loss for an explanation why it works in the console.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ivan-linux: i'd check
[15:02] <sipior> DEBUNTU73: you might also try the -f flag for shutdown, but the man page no longer lists it, and it may no longer function
[15:02] <miTzaH> ActionParsnip Yes it does match
[15:03] <DEBUNTU73> sipior:  that sounds like a hot trace.. thanks ill hunt for that.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> miTzaH: ok thats cool, boot to the usb device and run the verifier
[15:03] <savid> Hey all,  I have an internal bluetooth chipset on my dell laptop,  and my bluetooth mouse is _really_ laggy.    Does anyone know what might be the cause of this?
[15:03] <ivan-linux> ActionParsnip, how to check if i have the correct drivers?
[15:03] <savid> using ubuntu jaunty
[15:03] <smn_> radtoo why you say it work in console? if i hit the less thean key with active console it makes a ' symbol there to
[15:03] <phoe7> mutt does  not go well with ssh tunnel
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ivan-linux: read: less /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[15:03] <Radtoo> smn_: i mean in ctrl-alt-f1's console...
[15:03] <Radtoo> smn_: you said it worked there, earlier?
[15:04] <smn_> it gives a press ealse info i cant remember, not the acctually symbol i think... let me try again
[15:04] <miTzaH> ActionParsnip how do i run it ?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ivan-linux: if it loads the s3 driver you are ok, you may also want to check some websites to see how its setup correctly
[15:05] <smn_> it makes a ' symbol when ctrl-alt F1
[15:05] <grawity> smn_: In showkey?
[15:05] <Radtoo> smn_: ah, then I must have misunderstood you before.
[15:06] <smn_> oh no wait i did not do showkey.... trying again
[15:06] <brassmaster> savid: do you have a lot of wifi traffic in your area?
[15:06] <ivan-linux> i checked xorg, it loads the correct drivers
[15:07] <savid> brassmaster,  yes...
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ivan-linux: then read online how to set it up, make sure all is well
[15:07] <smn_> keycode 43 press and keycode 43 release
[15:07] <savid> brassmaster,  does wifi interfere with bluetooth??
[15:07] <ivan-linux> ok
[15:07] <ivan-linux> thank u
[15:07] <ivan-linux> :)
[15:07] <smn_> sorry if i fuc.kt up not intentional :(
[15:08] <brassmaster> savid: yes. if there is enough wifi traffic, it can be crippling for bluetooth devices. wifi is a direct spread spectrum technology and bluetooth uses frequency hopping in the same frequency range
[15:08] <smn_> specially when im getting so much help from you guys
[15:09]  * smn_ feels terrbile if he made it difficult
[15:09] <yacc> Is there an easy way to figure out if a given update is a security related update?
[15:09] <mistrynitesh> i am unable to locate a proper package to install ext4 modules for 8.04 installation, can someone guide?
[15:09] <brassmaster> savid: if the different wifi networks are spread out enough over the different channels, bluetooth's hopping scheme is usually good enough to avoid service interruptions, but if there's lots of wifi networks positioned closely together over the whole spectrum, that causes a problem.
[15:10] <chmac> After I hibernate (suspend to disk) and resume, /dev/video has disappeared. Any idea how to restore it?
[15:10] <brassmaster> savid: also, there seems to be a bug filed in launchpad about this problem
[15:10] <Pici> mistrynitesh: There is none, as ext4 is part of the kernel. You should be able to mount the partition as ext3
[15:10] <savid> brassmaster,  well, the odd thing is that it seemed to work better when I was using a usb bluetooth dongle (never experienced lag),  but I bought an internal module for my laptop recently,  and that's when I noticed it..
[15:10] <brassmaster> so it may be something that is specific to the bluez stack or your driver
[15:10] <savid> brassmaster,  so is it something that software can fix?  or is it a hard limitation?
[15:11] <coolguy4> anyone here understand how /usr/lib32 works? I have downloaded a 32bit package (a deb file), how do I get it to install to /usr/lib32 ?
[15:11] <savid> hmm,  ok.
[15:11] <grawity> coolguy4: I think you should just let dpkg handle the package.
[15:11] <Travis-42> is there a focus follows mouse feature in ubuntu?
[15:11] <mistrynitesh> pici: my 8.04 installation gives this message: "The volume uses the ext4 file system which is not supported by your system."
[15:12] <coolguy4> grawity: I'm running 64bit ubuntu. If I let dpkg handle it then it complains that the package is for the wrong architecture. I want to install the 32bit libraries for the purpose of running 32 firefox with 32 plugins
[15:12] <thiebaude> !ext4
[15:12] <Pici> mistrynitesh: How are you trying to mount it?
[15:12] <DRUID> y
[15:13] <brassmaster> savid: can you send me the output of 'iwlist scanning'?
[15:13] <Royall> My wireless internet connection keeps dropping (9.04, Dell Inspiron 1525 w/ Broadcom Corp BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)). I was just at another house where it worked fine all the time with the router. I think it's the router here.
[15:13] <mistrynitesh> Pici: from "Places" on the top panel
[15:14] <Royall> Like, I can't load pages on firefox often
[15:14] <Royall> But IRC works fine
[15:14] <Pici> mistrynitesh: Are you familiar with the terminal commands to mount a filesystem?
[15:14] <mistrynitesh> yes
[15:14] <savid> brassmaster, http://dpaste.com/88192/
[15:14] <sipior> Travis-42: unfortunately, i think we're stuck with sloppy focus from here on out. you can play around with the configuration resource editor, and set the mouse focus setting there, but i believe strict follow is no longer an option.
[15:14] <Pici> mistrynitesh: I'd try to do that but force the type to ext3, as the places menu may not be doing that when it mounts the filesystem.
[15:14] <sipior> Travis-42: (I miss it, too :-)
[15:15] <zebaztian> how do i get to pick which desktop effects are enabled on gnome? i enabled the special effects on the desktop config dialogue but i dont see a list of the effects
[15:15] <brassmaster> savid: yeah, it doesn't seem like wifi interference should be bad enough to cause that much of an impact on your mouse.
[15:15] <eFfeM> hi, i am trying to add a user with adduser (as root ofc) but I get 'Authentication token manipulation error" as error
[15:15] <raperis> jyutuj
[15:15] <freeksh0w86> How does one install the proprietary nvidia driver on Ubuntu 9.04 (amd64)? I don't see it under Hardware Drivers.
[15:15] <brassmaster> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:15] <eFfeM> how come/what should i do to fix that
[15:15] <Royall> zebaztian: try Simple compizconfig
[15:15] <Travis-42> sipior: thank you :-)
[15:15] <brassmaster> savid: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:16] <savid> brassmaster, jaunty
[15:16] <smn_> radtoo you still with me?
[15:16] <mistrynitesh> Pici: so do I need to change the "fstab"?... add an entry for the partition and specify ext3 there?
[15:16] <zebaztian> Royall: come again?
[15:16] <Halitech> freeksh0w86, what driver are you trying to install?
[15:17] <Pici> mistrynitesh: Only if you have it setup to mount at boot, otherwise just use; mount -t ext3 /device/path /mountpoint/path
[15:17] <sipior> Travis-42: of course, you can always try another window manager. i just kind of dealt with it on gnome/compiz
[15:17] <freeksh0w86> I need the latest binary driver for nvidia 9600 GS like I always do each time I install Ubuntu...
[15:17] <Radtoo> smn_: yep... you know, this ain't easy, but lets try this: xmodmap -e 'keycode 51 = 0x3c'
[15:17] <Royall> zebaztian: tehre's a program called Simple CompizConfig in which you can change desktop effects
[15:17] <zebaztian> Royall, where is it located?
[15:17] <zebaztian> how do i open it?
[15:17] <smn_> want me to write that command in a terminal?
[15:17] <Royall> zebaztian: you need to install it
[15:17] <mistrynitesh> pici: will try in a minute
[15:17] <zebaztian> oh
[15:17] <brassmaster> savid: in the launchpad ticket filed on this, the person filing the bug found that his problem was solved by upgrading to 9.10. I'm cautious to suggest that since it gave my roommate some problems, but if you really must use the wireless mouse, that's one option. Otherwise, if the bluetooth dongle worked better, maybe it's best to go back to that.
[15:17] <Halitech> freeksh0w86, if its not under hardware drivers you will need to install it manually
[15:17] <xikteny> zebaztian: install package 'simple-ccsm'
[15:17] <Radtoo> smn_: yep. if that doesn't work, perhaps 43 instead of 51 works
[15:18] <freeksh0w86> But in 9.04 (amd64) it doesn't appear to be under the Hardware Driver list. I tried adding it from Add/Remove menu but it said "not supported" or something.
[15:18] <Halitech> !nvidia | free_loader_
[15:18] <tavi> ibuclaw:
[15:18] <Royall> zebaztian: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm
[15:18] <smn_> <
[15:18] <Halitech> !nvidia | freeksh0w86
[15:18] <smn_> !!!
[15:18] <Radtoo> smn_: and btw, me telling you this is more or less of a little resignation to get this resolved in a non-xmodmappy way. I do think your hardware is non-standard by now. xD
[15:18] <smn_> <
[15:18] <smn_> <
[15:18] <smn_> :)
[15:18] <FloodBot2> smn_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <smn_> mister boot dont mess with me or i will give you a < up your...
[15:19] <smn_> radtoo its working
[15:19] <savid> brassmaster,  yeah saw that.   The only thing about the dongle is that it didn't re-connect my mouse after going to sleep :-P   oh well, I guess it's promising to hear its (possibly) fixed in 9.10
[15:20] <brassmaster> savid: yeah. sorry i couldn't be of more assistance.
[15:20] <mistrynitesh> pici: i get this message from the terminal: "nitesh@mistrys:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb4 /media/kubuntu/" "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb4, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so"
[15:21] <smn_> interesting i i got the key with more/less symbol and another with ' and star symbol. that last thing changed both keys to make only the < symbol. I have more use of the < symbol then the star symbol so its ok. :)
[15:22] <Radtoo> smn_: yes... we need to add another number for greater than and the last symbol
[15:22] <savid> brassmaster,  hey no problem -- if anything you kept me from throwing my mouse across the room in frustration.
[15:22] <brassmaster> savid: lol. good to hear.
[15:23] <Radtoo> smn_: They'll come after 0x3c, space delimited. now, I, being ingeniously silly again, have done this here myself and lost the number so I'll have to google 'em or reboot :P
[15:23] <savid> brassmaster,  I usually find it's more comforting when I can at least understand _why_ something's not working  :-)
[15:24] <abhifx> hi there. i m apdating my kde to kde 4.3. but now the menu and desktop are missing. can someone tell me what package is missing?
[15:24] <smn_> hope you dont mess your pc up
[15:24] <smn_> im gonna sit tight
[15:24] <brassmaster> savid: ditto. supposedly this is a regression that's been around since 8.04. hopefully 9.10 will do the trick for you.
[15:25] <|kardan|> hi, this shows up in my kern.log: http://paste.debian.net/45471/
[15:25] <mistrynitesh> pici: "dmesg | tail" gives me this : "[ 1043.098727] EXT3-fs: sdb4: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)."
[15:25] <abhifx> hi there. i m apdating my kde to kde 4.3. but now the menu and desktop are missing. can someone tell me what package is missing?
[15:26] <brassmaster> abhifx: sounds like you might be missing plasma.
[15:26] <panfist> could anyone recommend a program to create some simple flowcharts?
[15:26] <brassmaster> panfist: dia
[15:26] <brassmaster> !dia
[15:26] <zebaztian> how do you do the cube on gnome?
 hmm... i think i have that installed. can there be anything else?
[15:27] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me if there is a equivilent program to DU meter on ubuntu ?
[15:27] <zebaztian> Royall, thanks it worked, but how do you do the cube in gnome?
[15:27] <Royall> !ccsm
[15:27] <brassmaster> zebaztian: if you're running a recent version of ubuntu, use CompizConfigSettingsManager to enable the desktop cube.
 cube?
[15:27] <Royall> zebaztian: install the former
[15:28] <Royall> unless you have it
[15:28] <Kingsy101> i.e a program that monitors and records the amount of bandwidth being used
[15:28] <Pici> mistrynitesh: Sorry, was on a call. Sounds like your ext4 filesystem are running with extents which aren't supported under ext3.  http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#For_people_who_are_running_Ubuntu Might be helpful for getting ext4 to work on 8.04
 just install netmonitor via wine.
[15:28] <zebaztian> brassmaster, how do i install the compizconfigsettingsmanager?
[15:28] <mistrynitesh> pici: thanks... I will check it out
[15:28] <Psi-Jack_> abhifx, You're CRAZY! Stop recommendinh stupid stuff,.
[15:29] <zebaztian> brassmaster, what's the sudo aptitude install
[15:29] <brassmaster> !ccsm | zebaztian
[15:29] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, iptraf
 why is that?
[15:29] <brassmaster> zebaztian: if it's easier for you, use synaptic and search for ccsm.
[15:29] <Psi-Jack_> abhifx, wine, just to do what Linux tools can do natively? You're NUTS
[15:29] <zebaztian> brassmaster, i already installed that
[15:29] <zebaztian> i am already fiddlign with it
[15:29] <zebaztian> but how do actually do the cube
[15:29] <Psi-Jack_> abhifx, Like I said, stop recommending obsurdities like that.
[15:30] <Kingsy101> abhifx - isnt there something that linux has tho? without having to run stuff through wine?
[15:30] <zebaztian> on kde you go to one of the edges and sort of push with mousepoint
[15:30] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, Yes, iptraf!
[15:30] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: can you please refrain from calling people names like NUTS. there is no reason for it. thank you
[15:30] <Radtoo> smn_: xmodmap -e 'keycode 94 = 0x3c 0x3e 0x7c' this looks like its like your keyboard
 hey if its working all fine than whts the problem?
[15:30] <dagb> My 8.04 LTS install is missing the 'Software sources' menuitem in the Administration submenu. Can someone suggest a fix for that?
[15:30] <smn_> im gonna do that in terminal
[15:30] <Psi-Jack_> IdleOne, Recommding WINE to use network monitoring stuff, is nuts.
 netmeter is fine. and its open source.
[15:30] <brassmaster> zebaztian: click desktop on the left sidebar, then check the box next to desktop cube. once you have done that, the default keymap for that plugin has ctrl+alt+left/right set up to rotate the cube.
[15:31] <Psi-Jack_> abhifx, It's overkill, and it's not even linux native!
[15:31] <Radtoo> smn_: tell me if I got the right alt modifier wrong...
[15:31] <brassmaster> zebaztian: and ctrl+alt+click to manually rotate it.
[15:31] <sin360> has anyone here used bbtether
[15:31] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: that may be but it doesn't justify you calling people that. so please stop.
[15:32] <zebaztian> brassmaster, that's a very flat bidimensional wall
[15:32] <phyrrus> how do I uninstall gnome?
[15:32] <smn_> right altgr key works
[15:32] <brassmaster> zebaztian: you need to increase the number of virtual desktops used by compiz
[15:33] <Psi-Jack_> IdleOne, No, It's justified. It's not name-calling, it's saying what they're presribing is not sane. Which is true.
[15:33] <Radtoo> smn_: now ... fn, I can't test. but normal and shift should work 'swell
[15:33] <phyrrus> hello
[15:33] <phyrrus> how do I uninstall gnome?
[15:33] <smn_> the more less key gives < an nothing on shift.... and the '/star key gives <
[15:33] <Wanderer> ugh... karmic broke kde this morning?
[15:33] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: stop being a jack ass. how is that?
[15:33] <smn_> dont worry about fn, i never use it.
[15:33] <phyrrus> Karmic breaks all.  I am still running 8.10
[15:34] <brassmaster> zebaztian: click general in the sidebar, then click general options. go to the desktop size tab and increase the horizontal virtual size to 4.
[15:34] <sipior> Wanderer: karmic is alpha. don't use it if you don't want to file bug reports :-)
[15:34] <Wanderer> Karmic has been great until this morning,  kde won't start
[15:34] <Psi-Jack_> IdleOne, Is it more a jack ass to say use wine for very basic network monitoring, or is it jack ass to tell someone to stop suggesting such obsurdities? I think the first one. We can disagree all we want, but that's how it is.
[15:34] <phyrrus> lol yup.
[15:34] <Kingsy101> Psi-Jack_ - that is console based.. is there anything a little nicer? i.e a program that sits in the tray and has a nice GUI to it ?
[15:34] <phyrrus> then use fluxbox!
[15:34] <Radtoo> smn_: ... I don't see the star key on your photograph?
[15:34] <phyrrus> type startx
[15:34] <Wanderer> sipior: I know,  just not a great way to start the day :>
[15:34] <phyrrus> or rm /tmp/X0-lock
[15:34] <phyrrus> then startx
[15:34] <zebaztian> brassmaster, the ball is too big and i only see the down part of it
[15:34] <smn_> taking a new photo
[15:34] <phyrrus> while booting press F
[15:34] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, You want GUI too? Well, there's .... Some things.. Yeah. What desktop environment would you prefer it for?
[15:34] <phyrrus> woops
[15:34] <phyrrus> F2
[15:34] <Wanderer> no, kdebase is missing, gotta find out what else
[15:34] <FloodBot2> phyrrus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <Radtoo> smn_: Is that also a modifier key in norwegian layouts, like shift?
[15:35] <phyrrus> then just try startx
[15:35] <phyrrus> make me1
[15:35] <smn_> no its not
[15:35] <|kardan|> can sb please look over my kernel messages above
[15:35] <IdleOne> my grand father was right you can reason with a crook but not with an idiot
[15:35] <Kingsy101> Psi-Jack_ - gnome if possible.. it would be nice if it looked something like http://www.dumeter.com/
[15:36] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, There's gdesklets for that for Gnome, I'm sure. Check out gdesklet, I believe it's called.
[15:36] <piff_> Hi there.  I was wondering if there were any plans to support the Via Chrome9 chipset out of the box with the next Ubuntu release.
[15:36] <groza> hello,why when i installed kde every app i was running crashed why?
[15:36] <piff_> I have recently bought a Samsung NC20, and want to install Ubuntu on it.
[15:36] <Kingsy101> cool
[15:36] <zebaztian> brassmaster, how do i make it into a small sphere in the middle of hte screen?
[15:36] <Psi-Jack_> IdleOne, I'm neither a criminal, nor an idiot, thank you. I've been using Linux for a VERY long time, and I hate when people even dare recommend totally obsurd things, especially for such simple things to do.
[15:36] <Radtoo> smn_: ah, duh, I gave you a command with MY key :P
[15:36] <RLGyde> Hey, I am trying to get apache2 on ubuntu to run with two difrent ssl certificats, but I can't figure out how to configure the relation betwen IP and certificat file. How do I do that?
[15:37] <Radtoo> smn_: xmodmap -e 'keycode 94 = 0x3c 0x3e 0x7c' <- this should have had 51 instead of 94... but you copy and pasted it right?
[15:37] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, There's also another tool, one sec. Trying to remember what it's called, but it's got a server-client feature to it, and works on any desktop environment well.
[15:37] <phyrrus> hey, somebody help me
[15:37] <Kingsy101> Psi-Jack_ - don't suppose you can remeber the name of the desklet ?
[15:37] <joaopinto> !anyone | phyrrus
[15:37] <thiebaude> phyrrus, what is your question?
[15:37] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, GkRellm
[15:37] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: I did not mention you but if you feel like I insulted you in some manner you can take it up in #ubuntu-ops. I am now ignoring you because of your aggressive attitude towards myself and other users in this channel. have a nice day
[15:37] <Kingsy101> thanks
[15:37] <brassmaster> zebaztian: effects->cube reflection and deformation->deformation tab
[15:37] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, Nope. I don't use Gnome.
[15:37] <phyrrus> thiebaude: how do I uninstall gnome?
[15:38] <smn_> changed it now to 52
[15:38] <smn_> 51
[15:38] <Psi-Jack_> Kingsy101, But gkrellm is pretty decent.

[15:38] <smn_> WORKS!
[15:38] <FloodBot2> smn_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <joaopinto> phyrrus, are you using kde and want to keep it ?
[15:38] <smn_> you stupid boot
[15:38] <Radtoo> smn_: there. also try alt-gr. I should have made it | ...
[15:38] <dorszes> Hi @ll ;]
[15:38]  * Psi-Jack_ chuckles.
[15:38] <Hydrid> To allow users with a shell of /usr/sbin/nologin access to FTP, but have no shell access, edit /etc/shells adding the nologin shell:
[15:38] <phyrrus> joapinto: No I use fluxbox and want to keep that
[15:38] <|kardan|> I am debian user, but maintain a ubuntu installed on a laptop in this case. the user did an upgrade from hardy to jaunty yesterday, now some things are broken
[15:38] <smn_> nope
[15:38] <joaopinto> ops, was for phyrrus
[15:38] <Hydrid> cansomeone tell me waht it means
[15:38] <smn_> | i got it in upper left corner
[15:38] <Kingsy101> Psi-Jack_ - cool I am taking a look now
[15:38] <smn_> with the correct symbol on key
[15:38] <smn_> THANKS!
[15:38] <joaopinto> !purekde
[15:39] <zebaztian> brassmaster, this program i'm on is called simple right?
[15:39] <joaopinto> phyrrus, check those instructions, might help
[15:39] <zebaztian> cause i can't see those tabs
[15:39] <phyrrus> no thanks.  I will just try removing packages.
[15:39] <Radtoo> smn_: duh. I thought that was printed on that key from the screenshot. ahwell. its the third 0x7c number, you can probably omit it then
[15:39] <brassmaster> zebaztian: you need to be in ccsm, not simple-ccsm.
[15:40] <zebaztian> brassmaster, what was the name of the app to sudo apt-get it
[15:40] <thiebaude> !ccsm
[15:40] <smn_> radtoo last thing... can you make my 'a' + AltGr to be star symbol?
[15:40] <brassmaster> zebaztian: the app is called ccsm.
[15:40] <|kardan|> what is the module [drm:i915_getparam] for?
[15:40] <Radtoo> smn_: These "magic" numbers are ascii key codes btw in hex notation. Now, just save this in a text file somewhere.
[15:40] <IdleOne> zebaztian: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:41] <junior1> I need some help with kernel issues.  My laptop keeps flashing scroll and cap locks
[15:41] <rowan_> who here's using xubuntu?
[15:41] <zebaztian> IdleOne, compizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version
[15:41] <smn_> so these changes are just temporal?
[15:41] <rowan_> who here is using xubuntu??
[15:41] <brassmaster> zebaztian: have you tried running ccsm?
[15:42] <rowan_> xubuntu anyone??
[15:42] <IdleOne> zebaztian: now go to System, Prefs, Appearance
[15:42] <zebaztian> brassmaster, haha silly me
[15:42] <brassmaster> zebaztian: go to a terminal and run ccsm.
[15:42] <Radtoo> smn_: Yes, but you can auto-run this command on startup of your window manager.
[15:42] <rowan_> msn on linux??:S
[15:42] <|kardan|> absolutely clueless?
[15:42] <groza> hello,why when i installed kde every app i was running crashed why?
[15:42] <dare> rowan_: pidgin
[15:42] <IdleOne> zebaztian: for more help concerning compiz please /join #compiz
[15:42] <smn_> radtoo im gonna do that.
[15:42] <brassmaster> zebaztian: the nice thing about ubuntu is that it tells you how to install stuff you don't have when you try to run it.
[15:42] <rowan_> oh right, cheers (:
[15:42] <DJones> rowan_: You may find a better response in the #xubuntu channel
[15:43] <smn_> can you make the a+AltGr a star symbol?
[15:43] <junior1> I need help w/ kernel issues
[15:43] <smn_> I can manage without but it would be nice to have it :)
[15:43] <junior1> flashing scroll and cap locks
[15:44] <|kardan|> maybe some launchpad channel is a better place for me to ask
[15:44]  * mmizzi 
[15:44] <brassmaster> junior1: uh oh
[15:44] <brassmaster> junior1: did you recently install drivers or kernel modules?
[15:44] <|kardan|> this shows up in my kern.log: [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 6
[15:44] <junior1> Brassmaster: no
[15:44] <junior1> brassmaster:  I am new to ubuntu
[15:45] <legend2440> |kardan|: http://www.nabble.com/Bug-510769:-drm:i915_getparam-*ERROR*-Unknown-parameter-5-td21279847.html
[15:45] <|kardan|> legend2440: thank you very much!
[15:45] <brassmaster> junior1: can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[15:46] <junior1> Brassmaster: Give me the command and I'll do it.  Sorry Newbie
[15:46] <thiebaude> !pastebin | junior1
[15:47] <brassmaster> !pastebinit
[15:47] <sam_affable> hello there
[15:47] <brassmaster> junior1: do 'lspci | pastebinit'
[15:47] <brassmaster> junior1: and paste the url it gives you
[15:48] <brassmaster> junior1: you'll probably need to do sudo apt-get install pastebinit first.
[15:48] <Radtoo> smn_: about that... it requires the key code for a , and the corresponding code for the symbol is 0x2A . It is probably the fith number after the equals sign in the xmodmap command.
[15:49] <KaiForce> is pastebininit pre-installed?
[15:49] <KaiForce> withdrawn.
[15:49] <junior1> installing now
[15:50] <Cptnodegard> i have a bootable usb drive with ubuntu 8.04 to run persistently. any point in upgrading to 9.04 when all i use it for is maintanance like testing computers, using gparted etc?
[15:50] <junior1> ok installed, what next
[15:50] <KaiForce> if it aint broke.
[15:50] <brassmaster> junior1: do lspci | pastebinit
[15:50] <Radtoo> smn_: but I don't currently know what the first four would be tho... :)
[15:50] <dreedle> Cptnodegard, probably not
[15:50] <sam_affable> hey im trying to get my creative webcam PD1001 work on my box  i followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118623&page=5 and compiled epcam module successfully and my webcam worked for 10 minuets and then it went blank
[15:50] <thiebaude> KaiForce, dont fix it,lol
[15:51] <smn_> lol dont worry imleaving it as it is.
[15:51] <dare> KaiForce: break it then fix it :P
[15:51] <smn_> luv ya anyways
[15:51] <brassmaster> dare: haha, that's usually how it goes.
[15:51] <Cptnodegard> dreedle thats what i figured, thanks. KaiForce has about the same idea as me for things like this then
[15:51] <junior1> http://pastebin.com/f2df4f7ec
[15:51] <dreedle> :)
[15:51] <Radtoo> smn_: actually I know the first two I guess. 0x61 and 0x41 for "a" and "A"
[15:51] <thiebaude> windows isn't broke, but it needs fixed
[15:52] <|kardan|> running 2.6.28-15-generic [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 1 <= i think a new kernel is a good idea
[15:52] <sam_affable> i dont see /dev/video0 now earlier after compiling epcam module it created /dev/video0  but now i dont see it  but lsmod shows epcam
[15:52] <junior1> brassmaster:  cool program
[15:52] <Cptnodegard> had my wallet up and the ubuntu stick fell out the other day. some old fart asked what it was and I said ubuntu. think he thought i was swearing to him in japanese or something
[15:52] <dreedle> LOL
[15:52] <brassmaster> junior1: thank ubottu.
[15:52] <brassmaster> junior1: okay, now do dmesg | pastebinit
[15:53] <juiceman5000> how do i drop to shell?
[15:53] <juiceman5000> not gnome-terminal
[15:53] <thiebaude> juiceman5000, i do ctrl alt f2
[15:53] <junior1> brassmaster: http://pastebin.com/f39bb8d84
[15:53] <juiceman5000> ty
[15:54] <thiebaude> juiceman5000, no problem
[15:54] <__theIdiotBox> hello everybody!
[15:54] <Radtoo> smn_: xmodmap -e 'keycode 94 = 0x61 0x41 0x61 0x61 0x2a' substitute the right key code from xev and I guess you're good to go. I just filled the two modifier keys a variants I don't know about with a small "a"
[15:54] <vasser> hello
[15:54] <pranav_> hey how to test the volume of both speaker in xubuntu ?
[15:55] <vasser> i wish to auto mount my ntfs drives when booting, i tried adding the following line to /etc/fstab, but as a user i cannot mount the drive:
[15:55] <smn_> goona try that
[15:55] <brassmaster> junior1: did you just install php?
[15:56] <vasser> >> /dev/sda1       /media/C        ntfs-3g users,ro,umask=0002
[15:56] <vasser> (as root, it works)
[15:56] <__theIdiotBox> vasser, is should get mounted during bootup, right?
[15:56] <Chousuke> vasser: isn't the option "user", not "users"?
[15:56] <junior1> brassmaster:  not intentionally,  This problem has been going on since I switch from windows XP to ubuntu
[15:57] <vasser> i will try
[15:57] <zeltak> hi, moved over to ubuntu from kubuntu and looking at screenlets..is 0.12 the last version or is there another porgram to load screenelts?
[15:57] <__theIdiotBox> vasser, Chousuke is perfectly right..change that and it should work without any issues
[15:57] <zeltak> 0.12 looks very old? and i see at gnomelook they still post alot of screenlets
[15:58] <llutz> Chousuke: makes no difference _here_
[15:58] <pranav_> grawity, How can I beep right and left speakers independently ?
[15:58] <smn_> * correct!
[15:58] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me why I got this error ---> http://pastie.org/601713 <--- I have included everything I did from download which is why its a little long because it extracts.. you can see the error I get at the bottom after I enter the make command
[15:58] <Radtoo> smn_: I bet by now you get the drill. Suggestion, write down in the config file how you do this, just in case the next xorg remaps it again or something.
[15:58] <smn_> i got the commands on a txt file
[15:58] <__theIdiotBox> vasser, else just use the default options as used by other mounted partitions
[15:58] <Kingsy101> in install it says if you are running linux just enter the dir type make then make install
[15:58] <smn_> can i create a launcher for both commands?
[15:58] <Kingsy101> obviously it isnt working tho.. I don't know what to do
[15:59] <__theIdiotBox> vasser, someting like this: /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_IN 0 0
[15:59] <smn_> how would you solve it so it will be correct everytime i reboot
[15:59] <smn_> ?
[15:59] <grawity> smn_: You should instead put them to your startup script... maybe ~/.profile will work.
[15:59] <__theIdiotBox> vasser, replace the patition and mount point to suit your case, thats it!
[15:59] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | vasser
[16:01] <Radtoo> smn_: add it to the wm / de specific startup script, or the standard ~/.xmodmap file. xmodmap doesn't take the entire "command", but rather has lines like "keycode 57 = 0x31 0x33" - one line per key code
[16:01] <junior1> Brassmaster: any Ideas???:-[
[16:01] <Radtoo> smn_: the second xmodmap was meant to be ~/.xmodmap btw. A file rather than the command we just used.
[16:01] <brassmaster> does anyone have any suggestions for junior1 given http://pastebin.com/f39bb8d84
[16:01] <vasser> i get "unprivileged user" when trying to mount
[16:01] <brassmaster> and a kernel panic
[16:02] <vasser> i understood i need to "chmod ntfs-3g" (on /bin)
[16:02] <vasser> but not sure which mod
[16:03] <mbeierl> Is there an easy way to change the compiz window switcher for Alt-Tab from static to ring or shift?  I don't want to go in and modify every key combo individually in order to switch the default from static to ring
[16:03] <junior1> brassmaster:  what is php???
[16:03] <daniel1982> !list
[16:03] <smn_> comp is searching for the xmodmap file.... hang on
[16:03] <brassmaster> so if my name were junior1 and i were experiencing kernel panics on boot on a fairly new ubuntu install with a dmesg output that looked like this: http://pastebin.com/f39bb8d84, what would you tell me my problem was?
[16:04] <junior1> Brassmaster:  Thank you LOL
[16:04] <brassmaster> !php | junior1
[16:04] <Radtoo> smn_: I think you might need to create it with a text editor.
[16:05] <smn_> like a gazilion files with xmodmap.... in name
[16:05] <smn_> oh.
[16:05] <smn_> hmmm now im confused on what im trying to do :)
[16:05] <brassmaster> nobody in here wants to troubleshoot a kernel panic?
[16:05] <Radtoo> smn_: Or perhaps someone else can help you with adding the full command to your wm's startup files. I'm exhausted tho, this was actually complicated and I'm multitasking too :)
[16:05] <junior1> ubottu:  do you have any Ideas???http://pastebin.com/f39bb8d84
[16:06] <brassmaster> lol
[16:06] <smn_> Radtoo. your the man! thanks alot and go get some boze and celebrate yourself
[16:06] <Beefcakes> okay silly question, but in the Ubuntu installation when it asks me what my name is, is it more proper to provide my full name or just my first name? i know it matters little but whatever hehe
[16:07] <brassmaster> junior1: are you using 9.04?
[16:07] <Radtoo> smn_: thanks - glad I could help & sorry for the occasional mistake. :)
[16:07] <junior1> yes
[16:07] <legend2440> Kingsy101: install    libgtk2.0-dev
[16:07] <llutz> Beefcakes: do as you like
[16:07] <pranav_> how do I downloading all links in a webpage using wget ?
[16:07] <junior1> Brassmaster: yes
[16:08] <Kingsy101> legend2440 - what is that?
[16:08] <pranav_> how do I download all links in a webpage using wget ?
[16:08] <CydeWeys> Anyone know if there's a backup utility for Ubuntu?  I might need to reinstall my OS soon and I don't want to lose anything.  So at a minimum I'd need to backup all home directories, /etc/, the list of installed packages, lots of other things I can't think of right now ...
[16:08] <grawity> pranav_: wget --recursive
[16:08] <smn_> im gonna reboot and se it this works
[16:08] <grawity> pranav_: Or even better, wget --mirror
[16:09] <pranav_> grawity, thanks like alwayz
[16:09] <CydeWeys> I do have three hard drives at least, the two extras are just ext3-formatted mounted at /a/ and /b/, so I won't have to transfer everything.
[16:10] <Algdusk> hi , i have  problem, i had a shared network printer that i was using ok to print from my ubuntu to a windows machine no problem. But i had to remove it from the printer devices. now i want to set it up again using the printer wizard in ubuntu, but it shows me a list of things where i have to put host and i dont know how to use that
[16:10] <Kingsy101> legend2440 - well it gets a little further now but I still cant get it installed
[16:11] <antonio__> ciao
[16:11] <legend2440> Kingsy101: why are you compiling it when its in synaptic?
[16:12] <Kingsy101> legend2440 - what is in synaptic ? GKrellM ?
[16:12] <antonio__> channel ubuntu in  italian language??
[16:13] <brandon> yoo
[16:13] <Pici> !it | antonio__
[16:13] <llutz> Kingsy101: sudo aptitude install gkrellm
[16:13] <cutout> Hi, Am having problems connecting to windows VPN using pptp
[16:14] <Kingsy101> llutz - cool
[16:15] <bishops> hello, does anyone know i can tell my terminal to use the most recent version of a driver?
[16:15] <llutz> Kingsy101: you want to learn using apt-cache (search) :)
[16:15] <armence> I just copied a 20 gig folder for backup purposes... How can I make sure that copy went well? Is there a way to MD5sum a whole folder?
[16:15] <llutz> Kingsy101: or aptitude search
[16:15] <Kingsy101> yea
[16:15] <Kingsy101> your right
[16:16] <cutout> Hi, Am having problems connecting to windows VPN using pptp
[16:16] <xikteny> armence: look in to 'md5deep'
[16:16] <armence> xikteny: thanks
[16:17] <Kingsy101> llutz - you ever used gkrellM before ?
[16:17] <Einherjer> I just downoaded googleearth, it's a .bin file how do i install it?
[16:17] <llutz> Kingsy101: not really
[16:18] <Kingsy101> hmm I need something that sits in the tray.. so its ALLWAYS running
[16:18] <Kingsy101> this doesnt seem to do it
[16:18] <arvind_khadri> Einherjer, you can use the one thats there in the rep
[16:18] <arvind_khadri> !medibuntu > Einherjer
[16:19] <anujpathania> Hi, my first time on IRC chat
[16:19] <cutout> any one to help me with VPN?
[16:19] <Kingsy101> llutz - don't suppose you know of a nice bandwidth monitor that sits in the tray and gives a nice graphical output ?
[16:19] <jcinpv> Running Ubuntu 9.04 in VitualBox on a Mac. Where are the mount points for the shared folders?
[16:19] <rameshwor> anujpathania: welcome...
[16:19] <Kingsy101> i.e a linux version of DU-meter
[16:19] <josvuk> hi, how to install manpages for libc I'm on ubuntu9.04ppc
[16:19] <Einherjer> How do i add medibuntu?
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> !hi | anujpathania
[16:19] <Pici> josvuk: install the manpages-dev package
[16:19] <llutz> Kingsy101: nope
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> Einherjer, the details are given in the factoid
[16:20] <anujpathania> Thank you, so much
[16:20] <Kingsy101> hmmm
[16:20] <Michalxo> Kingsy101, Netspeed 0.15.2
[16:20] <roy_1> Hi! I tried to replace grub with grub2 (for cooler looks) and it did some terrible things and the kernel can't load
[16:21] <Mr> hi
[16:22] <josvuk> pici: Add/Remove Apps can't  find this package (manpages-dev)?
[16:22] <roy_1> I'm now using easy bcd to load the vista bcd (only xp and ubuntu installed though)
[16:23] <cutout> why ubuntu is very hard when trying to connect to vpn
[16:23] <Kingsy101> Michalxo - have you used that before? it looks great...
[16:23] <tonii> roy_1: boot the live-cd and run "fixit" or "rescue" or whatever it's called,  you'll get the option to restore grub
[16:24] <anujpathania> I am using pidgin for this IRC chat and I need help with it. Once i close my buddy list how do I bring it back? I can always click the pidgin icon again but It kind of restarts the application but does the trick for now. Is there another way to do that?
[16:24] <legend2440> josvuk: Add/Remove has very few packages listed. look in synaptic or in terminal type  sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[16:24] <Guest82559> i have a problem when i try to clic on any of my harddrive a messege says that the volumen couldnt open
[16:25] <roy_1> There is no such option. It says that it is not a rescue cd (ubuntu 9.04). I also installed the Neosmart bootloader. Any way I can redetect the kernel and reinstall just grub to the mbr?
[16:25] <tonii> anujpathania: by default pidgin closes to the "taskbar", maybe you changed some settings.
[16:25] <roy_1> Oh sorry... "fixit" after loading the "live" ubuntu?
[16:25] <tonii> roy_1: yeah, should be in the boot menu
[16:26] <anujpathania> tonii: it just disappears ... but i know i am online because there is online icon where my shutdown previously is.
[16:26] <Guest82559> what about me
[16:27] <Einherjer> ok googleearth is installed, but it doesn't appear anywere?
[16:27] <Pici> josvuk: It wont be listed there, add/remove does not list all packages. sudo apt-get install manpages-dev will install it
[16:27] <tonii> anujpathania: if I understand it correctly, you just have to click the online icon?
[16:27] <buttons840> anyone know why lastb on my server shows nothing?
[16:27] <Michalxo> Kingsy101, i am using it ALWAYS :)
[16:27] <roy_1> Fixit thing inside the os (when run from the cd) or at the meny when boot from the cd? Because the installer cd says it's no rescue cd!!! :(
[16:28] <Kingsy101> Michalxo - well I have done sudo apt-get install netspeed.. it seems to have installed but how do you run it ?
[16:28] <Michalxo> Kingsy101, only problem is, you have to have panel for it.. or configure conky ;)
[16:28] <Mr_Kaizer> I tried to run Age of Empires 2 with Wine. It failed, and no I have no sound, even though I've rebooted. Any suggestions?
[16:28] <Kingsy101> Michalxo - what do you mean ?
[16:28] <buttons840> lastb command gives the output btmp begins <today, about the time i turned the server on>
[16:28] <Michalxo> Kingsy101, yes, you've just installed it, now just add it to panel :) right click on panel -> add
[16:28] <anujpathania> tonii: it doesn't show the buddy list ... it shows the option avaliable, away and so on at top ... and shutdown n similar at bottom nothing else, no buddy list
[16:29] <Kingsy101> ok... and where is the program ?
[16:29] <Michalxo> Kingsy101, network monitor ;)
[16:29] <Kingsy101> ohhhhh wow
[16:29] <Guest82559> look i try to open any f my hardrive and a messege apear saying that the volumen couldnt open...whats that?
[16:29] <Kingsy101> thats cool as
[16:29] <Roberto__> herb
[16:29] <tonii> anujpathania: and if you doubleclick it?
[16:29] <Einherjer> I've installed googleearth through the medibuntu repository, but i can't find it anywere?
[16:29] <Michalxo> Kingsy101, agree ;)  enjoy it
[16:29] <anujpathania> tonii: the available option list comes and disappear
[16:30] <tonii> anujpathania: hm. I'm lost. and hungry. sorry, someone else will have to help you
[16:30] <Kingsy101> Michalxo - thanks
[16:31] <roy_1> In the live cd, there's only the option to load the live cd, the setup, or hdd. How do I restore grub and redetect the devices and kernel?
[16:31] <Michalxo> welcome
[16:31] <anujpathania> tonii: no problem, thanks anyway ... bye and take care
[16:31] <Michalxo> roy_1, I am not an expert, but you have to do it in that livecd...
[16:31] <Michalxo> few commands.. let me search for them
[16:31] <hozomean__> anujpathania: just click the pidgin icon again in the menubar... its smart enough now to not launch another instance
[16:32] <genii> roy_1: From in the live cd OS after it comes up
[16:32] <Michalxo> roy_1,  HOWTO Restore GRUB: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[16:32] <CorpX> anyone wanna do me a favor and check to see if my site's working
[16:32] <CorpX> http://videos.utexasclan.com
[16:32] <CorpX> plz ;)
[16:32] <rameshwor> roy_1 : i guessi can help you with commands in restoring grub : just send me a private.
[16:32] <xmnt> is there a way to adjust panels so that the autohide actually hides .. i have like 5 pixels still showing and would like it to completely disappear
[16:33] <itswhatev> roy_1: you can also reinstall over the top of an existing installation, choose not to format, and only system files will be replaced (/home will not be touched)
[16:33] <itswhatev> roy_1: the alternate install cd has a rescue option, too
[16:33] <buttons840> is it possible to preserve the contents of btmp between reboots, this file is always empty it seems
[16:33] <Beefcakes> hi guys im new to ubuntu i just installed it, what kind of user account is the one created at startup?
[16:34] <roy_1> I have the "normal" 9.04 .386 distro. You mean I should boot into the live os and then do something?
[16:34] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, the one you made during installation
[16:34] <Beefcakes> yeah
[16:34] <Michalxo> roy_1, yes, come here then ;)
[16:34] <Beefcakes> im a linux noob but ive used redhat until 9 before fedora
[16:34] <Beefcakes> so i'm kinda confused it didnt let me set a root password
[16:34] <roy_1> OK :) I'm on xp now. Will reboot to the live cd and return. c ya :)
[16:35] <Michalxo> well.. Beefcakes what user have you installed? for root you have to use "sudo command"
[16:35] <roxan> Beefcakes: you can set one by doing sudo -s and passwd root
[16:35] <llutz> !sudo ¦ Beefcakes
[16:35] <Pici> !noroot | roxan Beefcakes
[16:35] <Beefcakes> what do you mean by what user have i installed?
[16:35] <llutz> !sudo > Beefcakes
[16:35] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, use "sudo" command before making the "root" command
[16:36] <Beefcakes> nono my question actually was
[16:36] <roxan> !root > roxan
[16:36] <Beefcakes> in my other linux experiences during installation im asked for a root password
[16:36] <Beefcakes> why didn't ubuntu ask me for one?
[16:36] <xylox> Beefcakes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:36] <roxan> !enter > Beefcakes
[16:36] <grawity> Beefcakes: Ubuntu chose to disable the root account by default.
[16:36] <arvind_khadri> Beefcakes, as it is designed so
[16:36] <roxan> grawity: its not disabled, its just that password isn't set
[16:37] <Beefcakes> I see
[16:37] <grawity> roxan: Which is equivalent to it being locked - you cannot login.
[16:37] <roxan> grawity: but you can if you change the password.
[16:37] <Beefcakes> is the account created during installation a 'superuser' account? meaning i can do whatever i want provided that i throw in the password from time to time
[16:37] <Pici> roxan: The password is locked, there is no password that you could provide to login to root directly.
[16:37] <zebaztian> is there a way of having different desktop backgrounds in different workspaces?
[16:37] <Sam18>  can anyone suggest me a nice cell phone? the only thing i really need is a good sync capability with thunderbird/lightning.
[16:38] <roxan> Pici: I agree but I can change that password and login.
[16:38] <Pici> Beefcakes: Please read the url that xylox provided, it answers all of these questions.
[16:38] <grawity> Beefcakes: Your account simply has the right to use 'sudo'
[16:38] <Beefcakes> alright Pici
[16:38] <Beefcakes> thanks guys =)
[16:38] <master_> Hi all need some serious guidance PLEASE I am trying to connect to  a site via FILEZILLA but i cant even connect to the site via my c panel it is a website
[16:39] <xmnt> is there a way to adjust panels so that the autohide actually hides .. i have like 5 pixels still showing and would like it to completely disappear
[16:39] <master_> I think some thing is blocking my connection
[16:39] <xmnt> can you ping your site?
[16:39] <xmnt> master_, ?
[16:39] <Cptnodegard> hmm
[16:40] <karl> test
[16:40] <master_> xmnl I havent tried still new with all ubuntu programs
[16:40] <Cptnodegard> i get "could not find kernel image" when trying to boot a new 9.04 usb stick install
[16:40] <Cptnodegard> any ideas?
[16:40] <lase> I have problem installing karmic-desktop in kvm using virt-install: sudo virt-install --connect qemu:///system -n karmic -r 512 -f karmic.qcow2 -s 4 -c Desktop/karmic-desktop-i386.iso --vnc --noautoconsole --os-type linux --os-variant ubuntuKarmic --accelerate --network=network:default
[16:40] <xmnt> master_, are you using ubuntu as a server or as your local machine?
[16:40] <Pici> lase: Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <master_> xmnl : I am using ubuntu as a local machine...but on open suse i can acess the site
[16:41] <Jonii3> does anybody here know much about virtual box?
[16:41] <lase> Pici: ah, thanks, not sure though if it belongs to karmic or not
[16:41] <GPL> Jonii3 : why not ask your real question, and find if we know the answer :)
[16:41] <Jonii3> I'm trying to use ubuntu as a guest and windows vista as the host. I cannot use seamless mode, is this normal?
[16:41] <Beefcakes> since i just freshly installed it on my laptop, is there a program i can use to check if my laptop's webcam is wokring?
[16:41] <dholbach> Ubuntu Developer Week starting in 19 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:41] <Jonii3> there you go GPL
[16:42] <zebaztian> is there a way of having different desktop pictures in different workspaces?
[16:42] <roxan> !ask | Jonii3
[16:42] <xmnt> master_, user xmnt instead of xmnl so I cant see your comments
[16:42] <xmnt> master_, is your site on a remote server?
[16:42] <master_> xmnt: appologies
[16:42] <Jonii3> I know, but this isn't really the correct place to ask
[16:42] <xmnt> master_, no worries, just want to make sure I don't miss your comments
[16:42] <master_> xmnt: the site is on pickaweb server
[16:43] <xmnt> in ubuntu open terminal and ping your website ... i.e. - ping yoursite.com
[16:43] <Pici> Jonii3: The virtualbox support channel is #vbox , they would be more knowledgable about this sort of issue.
[16:43] <master_> xmnt: i shall do
[16:43] <GPL> Jonii3: check if you 've the Guest additions and upgrade them if necessary , for e.g. from 1.4.xxx to 1.5 ...
[16:44] <Jonii3> Pici, i'm in there as well, but they are, well, completely silent right now
[16:44] <roxan> Beefcakes: did you try cheese
[16:44] <Jonii3> GPL, thanks, I will go check that
[16:44] <master_> xmnt: the destination port is unreachable
[16:44] <xmnt> are you on your ubuntu box right now?
[16:45] <quantum> any1 here good with dns zones?
[16:45] <master_> xmnt: was that my question? as I am currently on my laptop
[16:45] <legend2440> xmnt: read post#8  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91762
[16:45] <xmnt> master_, are you on your ubuntu box right now ... sorry, talking in another channel w/ not so many people
[16:45] <master_> xmnt: I am
[16:45] <Jonii3> xmnt, no, i'm under windows
[16:45] <xmnt> legend2440, ?
[16:46] <xmnt> legend2440, cool ... thought that everyone forgot about me
[16:46] <quantum> how can i look at the latest logs without scanning the whole syslog?
[16:46] <Beefcakes> I'm confused as to why this network has ## channels heh
[16:46] <xmnt> master_, thats strange  .. can you ping google.com ?
[16:46] <ubuntu> ehi amici!
[16:46] <GPL> Beefcakes: please ask in #freenode
[16:46] <roxan> quantum: tail -f
[16:46] <master_> xmnt: I shall try
[16:47] <quantum> roxan, thanks
[16:47] <hozomean__> quantum: or tail -n (where n is the number of lines you want to see)
[16:47] <master_> xmnt: same destination port unreachable
[16:48] <master_> xmnt: I can acess the internet through browsers though
[16:48] <xmnt> master_, pastebin bin the output from ifconfig
[16:48] <master_> xmnt: ifconfig?
[16:49] <josh0x0> my ubuntu server has the process "atd" hogging 70-90% of the CPU all the time, how can I fix this?
[16:49] <xmnt> master_, yes in terminal run ifconfig
[16:49] <master_> xmnt: shall send link
[16:50] <pablo__> i looking for a screencast program that record webcam and desktop... any one know that??
[16:50] <anujpathania> Can someone tell me the shortcut to see my buddy list in pidgin?? Except for starting pidgin again.
[16:50] <roxan> anujpathania: gnome-do ?
[16:50] <master_> xmnt: http://pastebin.com/m21e5fa38
[16:51] <anujpathania> roxan: yeah gnome i guess, I was not able to get u completely. What did u meant?
[16:52] <xmnt> master_, just a sec
[16:52] <roxan> anujpathania: gnome-do lets you do lots of thing in a shorcut way, one of them is list pidgin contacts, and do some sort of action with it
[16:52] <master_> xmnt: thank you
[16:52] <brassmaster> !gnome-do
[16:53] <edsmaffs> how would i go about learning Unix / the BASH shell other than just having a play with it and see how it can do?
[16:53] <dare> http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[16:53] <anujpathania> roxan: Googled it,  never used it so let me try it out
[16:53] <brassmaster> edsmaffs: or here http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php
[16:54] <edsmaffs> thank you, i'll see what i can work out
[16:54] <mbeierl> anyone know why gvfs smb mounts completely squash the real file attributes?  every file listed via the gvfs mount shows as the same permissions. and all owned by the current user id, but that is clearly not the case on the file server, and Windows itself shows different acls for the files
[16:54] <rakesh> hi frnds....i want a suggestion from u
[16:54] <dare> edsmaffs: you can probably find more easily digestible material by googling bash tutorial
[16:55] <roxan> mbeierl: isn't that how fat and samba suppose to work ?
[16:55] <arvind_khadri> !ask | rakesh
[16:55] <Algdusk> how do i make printer wizard available again!!
[16:55] <Algdusk> it worked the first time, now it shows list to put the host name , i put the correct ip ddress but nothing shows..
[16:55] <xmnt> master_, tbo I'm not sure ... everything looks fine from there - do you have any firewalls or iptables .. are you running through a proxy?
[16:56] <mbeierl> roxan: the real windows smb protocol has acls.  and this is a file server that uses ntfs, not fat
[16:56] <rakesh> i want to fill an mnc online form through mozilla web browser but problm is that i m getting error  showing that microsoft window explorer is need ...at present i m using ubuntu.....is there any alternate soln
[16:57] <pos69sum> hi
[16:57] <grawity> rakesh: what's the URL of that page?
[16:57] <pos69sum> can anyone recommend a wireless keyboard and mouse that works well w ubuntu?
[16:57] <dakota> Hola buenas
[16:57] <master_> xmnt: I had a firewall I have disabled , but through suse on my wifes laptop I am able to connect to the site, I have unloaded a ip block earlier though
[16:58] <xmnt> master_, was it with iptables or a gui firewall app?
[16:58] <hozomean_> rakesh: if you *really* need ie... this is a solution alot of web developers use o test sites... not great for everyday browsing, but will help out in a pinch: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[16:58] <master_> xmnt: i would assume it was through gui firewall
[16:58] <roy_1> OK, I'm now on the live cd. Pls tell me how to restore grub and redetect the devices/kinstalled kernels
[16:58] <mbeierl> problem is described here: http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux-cifs-client/2006-March/001218.html but that being in 2006, I was wondering if it is implemented yet
[16:59] <Algdusk> can anyone help me ???
[17:00] <Beefcakes> Ubuntu right out of the box can't do youtube? =/
[17:00] <Algdusk> Beefcakes, u have to install the codecs
[17:00] <master_> xmnt:  I am looking at my synaptics and i have gufw installed
[17:00] <xmnt> master_, that might be your problem there ... in terminal run  iptables -L    and see if you get any rules other than standard rules
[17:00] <Beefcakes> Algdusk: you mean flash player?
[17:00] <Algdusk> Beefcakes, there is a good how to install all the multimedia codecs
[17:01] <xmnt> master_, since u have gufw installed run that and check if you have any rules in there ... i don't use gufw so I'm not sure how it works
[17:01] <Algdusk> Beefcakes, one sec. i am trying to find it for u
[17:01] <roy_1> Hello....... how do I repair/reinstall grub from the live cd?
[17:02] <master_> xmnt: i to have iptables installed
[17:02] <Frank_78> Hello, how do i identify with tty device is my USB_to_Serial cable? at lsusb it is Bus 001 Device 004, i would like to configure minicom.
[17:02] <Algdusk> Beefcakes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 try this
[17:02] <llutz> Frank_78: look at "dmesg" after pluging in
[17:03] <Beefcakes> thanks alg
[17:03] <devin122> how do i manulay install grub. Im dual booting with XP and the installer didnt install grub
[17:03] <xmnt> xmnt, iptables is installed in ubuntu by default ... at least in 9,04 it is
[17:03] <Frank_78> thanks llutz, i will try that
[17:03] <saulus> Is java3d included in sun-java6-jdk? If not, what do I need to download?
[17:03] <roy_1> Some expert please help meeeeeeee :(
[17:04] <Beefcakes> hm, i wonder why i can't do sudo synaptic in alt-f2
[17:04] <master_> xmnt: gufw is currently disabled
[17:04] <Frank_78> dmesg: pl2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303 converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[17:04] <edsmaffs> roy_1: are you at the terminal on live CD?
[17:04] <llutz> Beefcakes: use gksudo
[17:04] <xmnt> k, what was the output from iptables -L
[17:04] <nannes> I'm setting "remote desktop" on Jaunty... I've already opened ports on router (only for the server) but
[17:04] <nannes> it says The computer is reacheble only in LAN
[17:04] <nannes> any idea?
[17:04] <xmnt> master_, k, what was the output from iptables -L
[17:04] <llutz> Frank_78: so it's /dev/ttyUSB0
[17:05] <Beefcakes> it says there is another synaptic running in non interactive mode, please wait for it to finish first
[17:05] <Beefcakes> wtf
[17:05] <Michalxo> only 1 aptitude can run at the same time Beefcakes
[17:05] <master_> xmnt: iptables v1.4.1.1: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
[17:05] <master_> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[17:05] <Guest79452> hello how do i burn a iso file.and what program d o i need
[17:05] <Michalxo> = 1 synaptic or apt-get or aptitude no more Beefcakes
[17:05] <roy_1> I'm on live cd. What now?
[17:05] <xmnt> master_,  sorry run   sudo iptables -L
[17:05] <Michalxo> Guest79452, brasero
[17:05] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: how can i terminate the other one when i can't see it? :/
[17:05] <Michalxo> roy_1, /join #grub :)
[17:06] <Guest79452> how do i brun a iso file
[17:06] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, are you really experienced in another distros? :)
[17:06] <Michalxo> Guest79452, use BRASERO
[17:06] <master_> xmnt: do you want me to paste to pastebin?
[17:06] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, ps aux |grep synaptic
[17:06] <roy_1> OK, I'm there. bye
[17:06] <Michalxo> or grep apt-get or grep aptitude ;)
[17:07] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: somewhat, since i issued sudo synaptic first am i in risk of fscking up something?
[17:07] <lorenzo_> hey is there an easy way with aticonfig to allow me to drop windows from one monitor to the other? I have dual monitors working but I can't get any apps to open on the 2nd one...pretty useless
[17:07] <Beefcakes> or is it safe to kill it then do gksudo synaptic ?
[17:07] <Guest79452> do i need a program calld iso master program to burn a iso file
[17:08] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, unless you uninstall system packages, you should be fine ;) best to install for ubuntu/linux ;)
[17:08] <master_> xmnt: http://pastebin.com/m17457304
[17:08] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, no problem to kill it.. ;)
[17:08] <llutz> Guest79452:  [18:06] <Michalxo> Guest79452, use BRASERO
[17:08] <Michalxo> Guest79452, 3rd time... read properly please
[17:08] <Guest79452> do i need a iso program to  burn a iso file
[17:09] <Michalxo> Guest79452, alt+f2 -> brasero
[17:09] <llutz> Michalxo: just a troll
[17:09] <grkblood2> how do i make this symbol: «
[17:09] <Michalxo> voteban/kick Guest79452 ? :)
[17:10] <Beefcakes> hm when i tried to kill it, it said operation not permitted, is it safe to issue -9?
[17:10] <llutz> grkblood13: altgr-x
[17:10] <Denise_> anxious lafond is doing a nerves crisis?
[17:10] <grkblood2> gr-x?
[17:10] <Denise_> are you crying lafond?
[17:10] <xmnt> master_, run sudo iptables -F
[17:10] <Denise_> are you crying the rat?
[17:10] <nannes>  nannes: I'm setting "remote desktop" on Jaunty... I've already opened ports on router (only for the server) but
[17:10] <nannes> nannes: it says The computer is reacheble only in LAN
[17:10] <nannes>  any idea?
[17:10] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, are you installing something using syaptic?
[17:10] <zebaztian> does wine only work for a dual booting system?
[17:10] <Denise_> little rat beast
[17:10] <martin_> join #ubuntu.de
[17:11] <Denise_> sirty little rat beast
[17:11] <xmnt> master_, then run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:11] <Michalxo> unless you install it;s NOT safe to kill it.. once finished installation process, no problem to kill it.. anyway not hard to fix it all
[17:11] <Denise_> marin shut up
[17:11] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: no i am not
[17:11] <xmnt> master_, then run ping google.com
[17:11] <grkblood2>  llutz whats gr-x
[17:11] <Denise_> martin shut up you slut
[17:11] <master_> XMNT: Nothing on the second command
[17:11] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: not unless synaptic is the add/remove program thing because it's updating my programs
[17:11] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, then normal kill should be fine
[17:11] <llutz> grkblood13: altgr-x
[17:11] <Spike1506> is it possible to get ubuntu certified?
[17:11] <GPL> Denise_: please behave
[17:11] <master_> sudo iptables-F
[17:11] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, then let it be
[17:11] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: is synaptic = add/remove?
[17:12] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, wait unless it finish updating.. btw maybe it waits for some prompt for you... YES :)
[17:12] <grawity> Beefcakes: Synaptic is a little more advanced than Add/Remove.
[17:12] <grkblood2> llutz: i have no idea what that means alt + something
[17:12] <llutz> grkblood2: AltGr + x
[17:12] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: because i ran add/remove first then i did 'synaptic' in alt-f2 and synaptic popped up. then i closed it to run 'sudo synaptic' but then you told me to do 'gksudo synaptic'
[17:12] <grawity> grkblood2: Alt+X means "hold Alt, press X, release Alt"
[17:12] <master_> xmnt: sudo iptables -F nothing happens
[17:12] <llutz> grkblood2 try pressing those keys to get what you want
[17:13] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, only 1 instance can be run at the same time
[17:13] <xmnt> master_, that's o.k. it won't have any output
[17:13] <llutz> Alt != AltGr
[17:13] <master_> xmnt: ok
[17:13] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, close all others.. it;s security / consistency lock :)
[17:13] <xmnt> master_, sudo iptables -F   will flush all the rules for iptables
[17:13] <Beefcakes> yeah but are they the same thing? synaptic and add/remove?
[17:13] <grawity> grkblood2: yeah, AltGr is the _right_ Alt key (not always named AltGr)
[17:13] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, ion general yes :)
[17:13] <Guest10525> hay guys'I like to know what do i need to get a iso file onto a cd/dvd
[17:13] <grawity> llutz: Besides, AltGr+X only types an 'x' here.
[17:13] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, dunno about backend :)
[17:13] <xmnt> master_, so now when you run  sudo iptables -F   you should not have any rules in there (you will have 3 headings but no rules)
[17:14] <master_> xmnt: like a clean sweep ,do you think I should get rid of gufw?
[17:14] <grkblood2> altgr+x make 0020 for me
[17:14] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: i closed add/remove now, the only thing running is update manager but i still can't do 'gksudo synaptic'
[17:14] <xmnt> master_, I meant no when you run sudo iptables -F
[17:14] <llutz> grawity: depends on layout/mapping :(
[17:14] <grawity> llutz: en-US
[17:14] <xmnt> master_, yes, it's a clean sweep
[17:14] <llutz> de_DE :=)
[17:14] <x404x> what do you mean "close" beef ? if you closed the terminal the program could remain running, i siggest you fomd the process id and bring it to the foreground then make sure its properly closed first. if synaptic collides with another it can be bad for the system
[17:14] <grawity> llutz: Hmm, what is the character he wanted?
[17:14] <llutz> «
[17:14] <jondavis> does any one know what i need to have so i can get a iso file onto a cd/dvd
[17:15] <grawity> llutz: ... a question mark in a box?
[17:15] <t__Eest> how to update ssl ?
[17:15] <master_> xmnt: I dont get any readings , it goes back master@ etc
[17:15] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, it's still locked, cause of updating.. ;) everything you install/update it goes through apt-get application I think.. so it's locked once used..wait until 1st application finishes it's process
[17:15] <grawity> grkblood2: Press Ctrl-Shift-U, and type 00AB
[17:15] <xmnt> master_, having a firewall is important but use the best tool ... I've never used gufw before but it seems like a additional layer to complicate things to me
[17:15] <llutz> grawity: oh, shown as "double less" here, french-sign.... don't know how it's called
[17:16] <Beefcakes> x404x: well you see, first i ran 'synaptic' in altf2. then i closed that and did 'sudo synaptic' then nothing popped. they told me to do 'gksudo synaptic' but i cant because its already running and i cant kill it
[17:16] <jondavis> does anyone know how to burn a iso file
[17:16] <grawity> llutz: Ah. Fix your client, then.
[17:16] <xmnt> master_, can you ping google.com and get a response ?
[17:16] <steelcm> jondavis, are you serious?
[17:16] <Beefcakes> Michalxo: oh i understand, they're somehow linked together? but i was able to run synaptic even when i was updating a while ago when i just issued 'synaptic'
[17:16] <jondavis> yes i am
[17:16] <master_> xmnt: I am deleting  gufw , what would you recommend?, I shall attempt ping now
[17:16] <steelcm> jondavis, use brasero, it is installed by default with ubuntu
[17:16] <grawity> Beefcakes: You can use Synaptic while installing packages -- but you cannot apply any changes until the update finishes.
[17:17] <grawity> grkblood2: Ctrl-Shift-U 00ab for «, 00bb for »
[17:17] <Beefcakes> i just did a horrible thing by sudo killing synaptic
[17:17] <jondavis> i was tould that i need a iso burner to burn a linux mint 7 iso file
[17:17] <master_> xmnt: destination port unreachable
[17:17] <grawity> jondavis: You're on Ubuntu now?
[17:17] <Beefcakes> now the update stopped, well that's a lesson learned. weird thing is the original update is only 78mb, now it reports that it needs to download 135mb
[17:17] <jondavis> yes i am
[17:18] <xmnt> master_, hmm ... run this :  sudo apt-get install traceroute
[17:18] <steelcm> jondavis, if it is a .iso file then brasero can do it
[17:18] <coolpyrofreak> jondavis: Go with Brasero.  There's an option on the left side to create a CD from an image.
[17:18] <llutz> grawity:  «  <- still boxed question mark?
[17:18] <grawity> llutz: No, it's « now
[17:18] <xmnt> master_, once that's installed run:  sudo tracert google.com
[17:18] <llutz> excatly the same character here all the time.... odd
[17:18] <grawity> llutz: well, that << thing
[17:18] <llutz> yes+
[17:19] <mythomaniac> how do i find what sensors are being used to check for cpu/mb/ temp and cpu fan speed?
[17:19] <grawity> llutz: I think Xchat defaults to some weird combination of encodings, instead of just using pure UTF-8
[17:19] <dreedle> can anyone help me with this?
[17:19] <dreedle> Removing libx264-67 ...
[17:19] <dreedle> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error
[17:19] <dreedle> dpkg: error processing libx264-67 (--remove):
[17:19] <dreedle>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[17:19] <dreedle> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:19] <FloodBot2> dreedle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <jondavis> so it will say burn image
[17:19] <coolpyrofreak> jondavis: yep
[17:19] <dreedle> whoops
[17:19] <felix_> Hi
[17:19] <dreedle> fail
[17:19] <jondavis> ok
[17:20] <jondavis> how does it work
[17:20] <dreedle> this
[17:20] <dreedle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263241/
[17:20] <traveller> llutz, grawity, the character also showed up as « all the while on my side
[17:20] <master_> xmnt: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:20] <master_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:20] <steelcm> jondavis, in ubuntu you can right-click on the file and select the "write to disc" option
[17:20] <x404x> beef that is precisely why you should keep track of synaptic, update is a synaptic operation, most installs or updates lock the administrative directoty for good reason to avoid another program to overwrite the same files and messing up things
[17:20] <lorenzo_> hey is there an easy way with aticonfig to allow me to drop windows from one monitor to the other? I have dual monitors working but I can't get any apps to open on the 2nd one...pretty useless
[17:20] <llutz> traveller: fix your client then ;))
[17:20] <tmadsen> Hi, the colors i can define in .bashrc seemingly have two digit color codes, for instance blue seems to be 34. Question is, what are those color codes called? (hex, ansi, ?) I want to know, so I can learn more
[17:20] <xmnt> master_, do you have synaptic open
[17:20] <felix_> I ve got 2 GB of RAM and 2 of SWAP. When i use stress to allocate about 2 Gigabyte, shouldnt the kernel be able to swap the allocated pages? my computer crashes when doing that.
[17:20] <Beefcakes> where can i configure what happens when i close the lid on my laptop in ubuntu?
[17:21] <master_> xmnt: appologies i had synaptics open
[17:21] <traveller> llutz, are you seeing something else? i meant to say the right character
[17:21] <steelcm> jondavis, I would suggest reading the linux mint user guide if you are trying to install it! http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/linuxmint.com/stable/7/user-guide/english.pdf
[17:21] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, yes, connected..  dunno about deeper implementation ;)
[17:21] <x404x> master either you are not running as root (add sudo first) or another admin program is running, wait for it to finish then close it before proceding
[17:21] <coolpyrofreak> Beefcakes: power management in the preferences menu
[17:21] <Michalxo> Beefcakes, system -> preferences
[17:21] <Michalxo> :)
[17:21] <llutz> traveller: no, it was shown here always as "<<"
[17:22] <Beefcakes> thank you cool
[17:22] <master_> xmnt:traceroute to google.com (74.125.127.100), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[17:22] <master_>  1  192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2)  0.073 ms  0.023 ms *
[17:22] <x404x> felix did you setup a swap partition of atleast 2 gig ?
[17:23] <felix_> x404x: yes, and it s active
[17:23] <felix_> i see it in htop
[17:23] <traveller> llutz, oh ok. i was just wondering why it showed up on grawity's end as a question mark just once, and what you could have done to change that.
[17:23] <junaid> hi
[17:23] <Einherjer> I've installed googleearth through medibuntu, but i can't find it anywere, were shall i look?
[17:24] <steelcm> hi
[17:24] <llutz> traveller: i reconfigured xchat to use utf-8 on freenode too (i've forgotten it when installing)
[17:24] <master_> xmnt: still no luck with ping
[17:24] <Jonii3> ok, noobie question, how do I run a .run file?
[17:24] <Jonii3> as root
[17:25] <Beefcakes> hmm i just unplugged my laptop from the ac and its still saying that its running on AC power :s
[17:25] <x404x> felix did you change the swappiness ?
[17:25] <th0r> Jonii3: sudo /full/path/to/filename.run, but make darn sure you want to do that
[17:25] <traveller> llutz, mine's still on the default xchat IRC (Latin/Unicode Hybrid). no probs so far...but maybe i should change that too!
[17:26] <Jonii3> I know I want to do that, but it says command not found
[17:26] <hanasaki> does svn pick up the http proxy information from the ubuntu system set in system/proxy?
[17:26] <th0r> Jonii3: probably need to give it execute permissions....sudo chmod a+x /full/path/to/filename.run
[17:26] <xmnt> master_, I'm out of ideas - it's possible that gufw did something funky that i'm not aware of or something else
[17:27] <steelcm> jonii3, do you know what script the file is written in?
[17:27] <Jonii3> no
[17:27] <steelcm> jonii3, fair enough
[17:27] <master_> xmnt: it seems my ports are closed to certain requests
[17:27] <master_> xmnt: would I need to assighn a port?
[17:27] <Beefcakes> i just installed ubuntu on this laptop and i disconnected the cord to see whether or not it'll sense that its not on ac power anymore. sadly it iddnt, but yeah it's reporting that the battery IS discharging
[17:28] <steelcm> jonii3, try what th0r said
[17:28] <xmnt> master_, what was the output again for sudo iptables -L  ... pastebin it for me
[17:28] <Jonii3> steelcm, I am not even sure how I would find out
[17:28] <quatar-it> hi all. what happened? why in the last days copy and paste had a so strange behavior? Ctrl+c and ctrl+v often doesn't work for texts, while selecting (copy) and middle-clicking (paste) works. This is true for browsers (chrome, firefox), gedit and all the other applications i used. What has happened? Did I approve this for my system?
[17:29] <xmnt> master_, you should be getting something like this:  http://pastebin.com/d2d46e0ff
[17:29] <steelcm> jonii3, I was wondering whether it was a bash script, could be almost anything. Do you know the source of this mystery .run file?
[17:29] <Jonii3> it is for vbox. guest addition thing
[17:30] <master_> XMNT:http://pastebin.com/m1841ac4b
[17:30] <master_> JOIN #UBUNTU-UK
[17:31] <xmnt> master_, your rules are still in place
[17:31] <master_> xmnt: ?
[17:31] <xmnt> master_, run this again:   sudo iptables -F
[17:31] <xmnt> master_, and check again with sudo iptables -L
[17:31] <steelcm> jonii3, is the filename VBoxLinux.run per chance?
[17:31] <gabriel_> Hi everyone
[17:31] <Jonii3> not quite
[17:32] <Jonii3> VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run
[17:32] <gabriel_> Im looking for some tips to make Ubuntu 9.04 64 bits boot up faster, I have an AMD Athlon x2 3800+ with 2 GB DDR2 RAM and a 250 GB hard drive
[17:32] <steelcm> joniir, just reading around on google, looks like it is a bash script. try "sudo bash ./VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86
[17:33] <master_> XMNT: http://pastebin.com/m5f59fa06
[17:33] <Jonii3> stupid mouse
[17:33] <malkovitch> j ai pas touché au .htaccess
[17:34] <xmnt> master_, k, that's closer to correct ... the Chain blockcontrol_fw looks like it's somthing from gufw
[17:34] <anton> how to update clam antivirus for ubuntu 8.0.4 64 bit ?
[17:34] <Welshy-Rob> tell me of a decent screen recorder?
[17:34] <xmnt> master_, can you ping google.com
[17:34] <anton> the master
[17:35] <Halitech> Welshy-Rob, recordmydesktop
[17:35] <master_> xmnt: port unreachable
[17:35] <anton> deddy cobuzier
[17:35] <anton> on ubuntu channel..
[17:35] <anton> mentalis
[17:35] <xmnt> master_, ok progress .. i think ... somehow the last 3 Chain entries need to be removed
[17:36] <pranav_> Please suggest me the most powerful Ide for C & Java for 256mb RAM on Xubuntu 9.04 ?
[17:36] <master_> xmnt: ok
[17:36] <Jonii3> ok, thanks guys, it looks like it's working
[17:36] <steelcm> junii3, ballsed that one up, "sudo bash ./VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run"
[17:36] <steelcm> nice one
[17:36] <Welshy-Rob> tell me of a decent screen recorder?
[17:36] <Halitech> Welshy-Rob, recordmydesktop
[17:36] <pranav_> Please suggest me the most powerful Ide for C & Java for 256mb RAM on Xubuntu 9.04 ?
[17:37] <steelcm> vim
[17:37] <anton> does ubuntu 9.0.4 64 bit support gma965 ?
[17:37] <Jonii3> Steelcm:? what are you talking about. I just put in the full path where you had . and it worked
[17:37] <steelcm> jonii3, samething
[17:37] <master_> xmnt: i have deleted gufw from synaptics
[17:37] <Jonii3> ok
[17:37] <steelcm> the dot syntax references the current directory
[17:38] <xmnt> master_, whats the output now from  sudo iptables -L
[17:38] <quantum> i need help with a reverse DNS file
[17:38] <|lilo|> how can kill a process
[17:38] <steelcm> jonii3, I was right I tell you, in my head anywasy!
[17:38] <Halitech> |lilo|, killall -9 <name of program>
[17:38] <Jonii3> steelcm: lol, I guess so
[17:38] <quantum> i can get to the internet with all but 1 XP machine, but when i nslookup, i get a "can't find names erver
[17:38] <Jonii3> steelcm: restarting ubuntu now
[17:39] <quantum> i can get to the internet with all but 1 XP machine, but when i nslookup, i get a "can't find name server
[17:39] <master_> xmnt: http://pastebin.com/m63930817
[17:39] <pranav_> Steel__, does it has advanced features like code highlighting, completion , snippets, auto indentation etc etc ?
[17:39] <Jonii3> !repeat | quantum
[17:39] <quantum> Jonii3, i was correcting a typo :)
[17:40] <Jonii3> sorry, I noticed that as I hit enter :)
[17:40] <quantum> Jonii3, ur alright mate :)
[17:40] <IgniFerroque> On 8.04 I'm running into a problem with subversion. After updating my packages I now get: "SSL Negotiation Failed: SSL Disabled due to library version mismatch"
[17:40] <IgniFerroque> any suggestions?
[17:40] <xmnt> master_, run sudo iptables -F   again and then paste output from   sudo iptables -L
[17:40] <mbeierl> Is there ACL support for CIFS in Jaunty?  I can't seem to find the answer anywhere
[17:40] <Halitech> quantum, XP issue? might get more help here http://support.microsoft.com/
[17:41] <quantum> no
[17:41] <quantum> i know i messed up the reverse
[17:41] <quantum> Halitech, i just don't recall exactly what i did
[17:41] <|lilo|> for bash
[17:41] <master_> XMNT: http://pastebin.com/m509c697f
[17:41] <Halitech> quantum, but all other machines work except 1 XP machine?
[17:41] <quantum> Halitech, more to the point, no, all have lost the nameserver
[17:41] <Jonii3> thanks guys, ubuntu and vista are running nice and smooth in seemless mode.
[17:42] <quantum> Halitech, the wierd thing is, that one has lost connectivity all together, the rest still have it, but its slower
[17:42] <xmnt> master_, ok lets do this   ... sudo apt-get remove --purge iptables
[17:42] <Halitech> quantum, router or ubuntu server doing the name server work?
[17:42] <quantum> Halitech, i "repaired" the connection on another machine and restarted the problematic one and its still the same
[17:42] <quantum> ubuntu doing server work
[17:43] <Halitech> quantum, does the server have connectivity?
[17:43] <|lilo|> thanks
[17:43] <Magne1> does anyone know if drivers for GeForce 7600 Go comes automatically installed with Ubuntu? I can't seem to get Compiz to work
[17:43] <quantum> Halitech, oh yes. i'm chatting from it
[17:43] <xmnt> master_, when that's done run the opposite:   sudo apt-get install iptables
[17:43] <Halitech> quantum, can you ping the other machines from the server and vice cersa?
[17:43] <quantum> Halitech, sec
[17:44] <quantum> Halitech, can ping and back
[17:44] <pshr_> Msku, i suppose there 3rd prty drivers that you can download from the repositories
[17:44] <|lilo|> and if i want no show the name of program... how do i do?
[17:44] <master_> xmnt: blockcontrol iptables moblock ubuntu-standard ufw removed
[17:45] <xmnt> master_, now reinstall iptables
[17:45] <Halitech> quantum, can the machines load google by ip? 74.125.45.100
[17:45] <master_> xmnt: sudo apt-get iptables?
[17:45] <quantum> Halitech, yes
[17:46] <xmnt> master_,  yep
[17:46] <Msku> okay pshr, but I have had ubuntu on my laptop before. If I recall correctly, I could use compiz right away, without installing anything
[17:46] <Msku> im on jaunty atm
[17:46] <jopojop> i have problems with karmic network connection on virtualbox
[17:46] <quantum> Halitech, i can't remember the cut / paste site, for me to post the reverse zone file
[17:46] <Halitech> quantum, ok, have you tried restarting the dns daemon?
[17:46] <grawity> quantum: dpaste.com, pastebin.ca, pastie.org
[17:46] <tonyyarusso> !pastebin | quantum
[17:46] <grawity> quantum: Pick one ^
[17:46] <Halitech> !pastebin | quantum
[17:46] <master_> xmnt: wont allow through terminal invalid operation
[17:46] <pshr_> My laptop has GEForce 7400 i needed the drivers for compiz to run smoothly
[17:47] <Halitech> master_, sudo apt-get install iptables
[17:47] <xmnt> master_, wow ... somethings def. off  ... install it from synaptic
[17:47] <Msku> ok..you know where I can get the drivers from?
[17:47] <Halitech> !nvidia | pshr
[17:47] <quantum> Halitech, http://pastebin.ca/1550498
[17:47] <master_> xmnt: appologies I like to learn thank you its installed
[17:47] <quantum> that should make things easier
[17:48] <pshr_> !nvidia | Msku
[17:48] <ria> is possible to run ubuntu on a usb key ?
[17:48] <Msku> hehe thanks
[17:48] <t__Eest> ria yes
[17:48] <quantum> Halitech, nameserver should be 192.168.100.10
[17:48] <ria> how could i do it, do you have one link ?
[17:48] <Jonii3> ria you can live, but I don't know about installed
[17:48] <leaf-sheep> Msku: Check Hardware Drivers -- Enable everything you can.  Toggle on in Appearances --> Visual Effects
[17:48] <leaf-sheep> Msku: That'll toggle on the basic Compiz.
[17:49] <master_> xmnt: i can now ping google
[17:49] <pshr_> that would work too as leaf-sheep said i have installed the same way Msku
[17:49] <proq> can someone point me to where the Ctrl-Alt-F1 key is defined to switch to a virtual terminal?  I need to turn this off and can't see how
[17:49] <Msku> ah yes thanks
[17:49] <Msku> I think I remember having done that the last time
[17:50] <Msku> I'll try it
[17:50] <Halitech> quantum, I'll admit, other then the basics you are over my head, maybe someone in #ubuntu-server would have a better idea
[17:50] <leaf-sheep> Msku: If you're interested in tweaking and such... More settings.  Check out !ccsm
[17:50] <quantum> Halitech,  thanks :)
[17:50] <proq> I did manage to stop getty from spawning, but this just leaves the virtual terminals in a blank state
[17:50] <_markus__> I would like to map "Show the panel's main menu", which by default mapped to alt-f1, to just the windows key; but it doesn't accept the single keystroke for the win-key, only a combination. Any ideas on that?
[17:50] <xmnt> xmnt, good deal
[17:50] <xmnt> master_, good deal
[17:50] <pshr_> !shortcuts | proq
[17:50] <pshr_> donno whether it specifies it or not
[17:51] <pshr_> check out :)
[17:51] <Halitech> quantum, you could look at the /etc/network.interfaces files on an ubuntu machine and see if its got the correct name servers
[17:51] <master_> xmnt: did you do it?
[17:52] <Msku> uhm got a little problem
[17:52] <Msku> I just installed ubuntu, dual booting with win xp
[17:52] <quantum> Halitech, no nameservers at all on /etc/network/interfaces
[17:52] <quantum> only ip settings
[17:52] <Msku> can I increase the disk space on the ubuntu partition now?
[17:53] <DareDevil0> Hola alguien  sabe por que wireshark solo me captura paquetes que salen o se envian de mi interface y no de las demas
[17:53] <Qvintvs> in one of Ubuntu's screen profiles, I see 1! written in white text on a red backround. what does that indicate?
[17:53] <leaf-sheep> _markus__: "Super L" would be sufficient. I tested this recently.  It worked.  Now back to default ALT+F1. :)
[17:53] <pshr_> !disk | Msku
[17:53] <rakesh>  cn anyone hellp me....when i online form for particular mnc....i getting problem in ubuntu that it is telling me to fill the form in microsoft window explorer.....so is that any alternate web browser in linux
[17:54] <Halitech> quantum, some info here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2248  ... seems they should be in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:54] <leaf-sheep> rakesh: Link?
[17:54] <master_> XMNT: You did it well done buddy YOU ROCK
[17:54] <master_> XMNT:THANK YOU
[17:54] <DareDevil0> Hi does any body knows why my wireshark does not capture packets of all my lan and only from my ip, and it is in promiscuous mode
[17:54] <quantum> ok, sec
[17:54] <thowland> daredevil0, if your lan is switched then all of the lan traffic won't be on your segment
[17:55] <Cptnodegard> when gparted copies files to expand a partition to the left, will it then copy empty space? it says 3.07 of 29.42GiB copied, but only 7-8 of those 30GB have files on them
[17:55] <quantum> Halitech, there is a nameserver there
[17:55] <pshr_> DareDevil0, it is designed for the same purpose
[17:55] <xmnt> master_, n/p ... glad it worked
[17:55] <Halitech> rakesh, user agent switcher plugin for FF
[17:55] <Halitech> quantum, is it the correct one?
[17:55] <xmnt> master_, you should probably setup some iptables rules w/out gufw
[17:55] <pshr_> DareDevil0, try arpspoofing and then start wireshark
[17:55] <master_> xmnt: what would you suggest for a firewall?
[17:55] <Qvintvs> anyone know about my screen question? :/
[17:55] <pshr_> DareDevil0, it would capture the packets on your lan
[17:55] <pshr_> Qvintvs, question ?
[17:56] <adam_> hi
[17:56] <xmnt> master_, here's a guide at slicehost - just scroll down to the iptables page and it shows you how to setup basic filtering
[17:56] <pshr_> adam_, hello
[17:56] <xmnt> master_, http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/11/28/ubuntu-intrepid-setup-page-1
[17:56] <pranav> fans of Vim please suggest me good components that can turn vim into a complete Ide for C and Java...pen in my hand :)
[17:56] <Qvintvs> "in one of Ubuntu's screen profiles, I see 1! written in white text on a red background. what does that indicate?"
[17:56] <master_> xmnt: thank you
[17:56] <jlindbergh> Hello. My notifications (Notify-OSD) comes up on the wrong screen :/ What's up with that?
[17:56] <gabriel_> i want some tips to make ubuntu 9.04 64 bits to boot up faster
[17:56] <quantum> Halitech,  not sure but gonna change it and hope for the best
[17:56] <xmnt> master_, any time
[17:56] <adam_> how can I set up my bluetooth connection so as to be able to send TO pc?
[17:56] <Halitech> quantum, okay
[17:56] <pshr_> Qvintvs, screen number i suppose
[17:57] <DareDevil0> pshr, you mean if my lan have various switches?
[17:57] <master_> xmnt: ill be back goodbye
[17:57] <xmnt> master_, by
[17:57] <jlindbergh> I use nvidia twinview..
[17:57] <DareDevil0> pshr, what is arpspoofing?
[17:57] <pshr_> well DareDevil0 you can spoof the gateway where in all the traffic is redirected from it
[17:57] <Qvintvs> pshr_: as in the number of the particular screen window? its not that
[17:57] <quantum> nope, no good
[17:57] <rakesh> i want ahelp that when i m  filling onlineform fo
[17:57] <rakesh> when i m filling online form in mozila i m getting problem ...it shows that use microsoft window internet explorer
[17:57] <adam_> i cannot send any data from my mobile phone, however it works fine opposite way
[17:57] <quantum> no1 answering on unbuntu-server
[17:57] <jlindbergh> The notifications should come up on the active screen, or the one with the gnome-panel on, right?
[17:58] <crack05> ih there any command like wget ?
[17:58] <pshr_> DareDevil0 its some thing where all the traffic on the network passes through your network interface
[17:58] <Halitech> rakesh, have you tried user agent switcher for FF to fool the site into thinking you are using IE?
[17:58] <Halitech> quantum, dang, not sure what else to suggest
[17:59] <adam_> is there anyone to help?
[17:59] <felix_> x404x: swappiness is set to 60
[17:59] <JaneDoe> my ubuntu server has two network cards (eth0 and eth1).  I'm now connecting through eth1 and it doesn't seem to use the domain that it did for eth0 (MSHOME).  Is there a way to set for both or for eth1 separately?
[17:59] <Qvintvs> pshr_: its displayed to the left the cpu usage
[17:59] <DareDevil0> pshr, thank you i will try
[17:59] <pshr_> can any one address Qvintvs query
[17:59] <pshr_> np DareDevil0
[17:59] <quantum> Halitech, i'm stumped as well...:(
[17:59] <pranav> rakesh, yes use addon named user agent switcher to make the site feel you are in IE
[18:00] <Qvintvs> it came up recently.. just kinda bugs me not knowing what it is
[18:00] <DareDevil0> pshr, how can i do a arpspoofing?
[18:00] <DareDevil0> sorry
[18:00] <pshr_> sudo apt-get install dsniff
[18:00] <Halitech> quantum, maybe post in the server forum if no one is answering in the irc channel
[18:01] <DareDevil0> pshr, you mean that every packet that goes to a computer in my network first have to go to the gateway?
[18:01] <quantum> what's the server forum?
[18:01] <DareDevil0> that is the design of the network?
[18:01] <pshr_> ah huh DareDevil0 exactly
[18:01] <pshr_> if it is configured that a way in the default gateway
[18:01] <zamba> i want to create pdf documents that will be filled out electronically.. is this something i can do with some tool in linux?
[18:01] <zamba> like openoffice or similar?
[18:01] <Qvintvs> nvm, i got it... i think it means there's an update. toggling off the 'updates-available' field makes it go away
[18:02] <DareDevil0> pshr, uuhmmm now i understand
[18:02] <gl00pz> sup
[18:02] <crack05> ih there any command like wget ?
[18:02] <DareDevil0> pshr, ok I already installed the package you told me now what i have to do?
[18:02] <quatar-it> Hi all. Does anyone know how to disable the middle-button-click->paste function in X? Please don't suggest me to remap my mouse buttons to 1 3 3: i do want a middle button, but i don't want it to work for the selection buffer!
[18:02] <pshr_> crack05, alike you mean why ?
[18:02]  * adam_ feels unnoticed :)
[18:02] <pshr_> DareDevil0, pm ?
[18:03] <proq> pshr_: ok, I think I found it.  you add "DontVTSwitch" to xorg.conf
[18:03] <rakesh> i hav istalled user agent switch
[18:03] <rakesh> but dont know how to use
[18:03] <pshr_> great proq :)
[18:03] <gl00pz> does anyone knows how to configure dual monitor on ubuntu 9.04 running on DELL D510, intel video card 910GML
[18:03] <gl00pz> ?
[18:04] <DareDevil0> pshr, what the dsniff i already installed now how can i do the arpspoofing
[18:04] <pshr_> aren't you getting my pm's ?
[18:04] <crack05> -rbash: wget: command not found
[18:04] <pshr_> well go to command line
[18:04] <pshr_> and type arpspoof --help
[18:05] <DareDevil0> pshr, ok let mi check thank you
[18:05] <crack05> I get this error
[18:05] <llutz> crack05: rbash = restricted = someone don't want you  to have wget
[18:05] <Qvintvs> ya, if anyone cares, i suppose the 1! meant there was one package that could be upgraded, running apt-get upgrade got rid of it
[18:05] <pshr_> great Qvintvs :)
[18:06] <Barkhorn> Beefcakes, you need to close update-manager before running synaptic, they both use the same backend
[18:06] <DareDevil0> pshr, the host have to be the gateway or the computer i want to capture the packages?
[18:06] <adam_> errr.... any solution with the bluetooth device?
[18:06] <pshr_> well this is the one command that directs all the traffic from other computers to your computer and then forwards it to gate way
[18:06] <pshr_> arpspoof defaultgateway
[18:06] <pshr_> arpspoof <defaultgateway?
[18:06] <pshr_> arpspoof <defaultgateway>
[18:07] <pshr_> u need to enable ipv4 fwding
[18:07] <Orbixx> How can I install a desktop environment on an Ubuntu server installation?
[18:07] <DareDevil0> pshr, i did arpspoof defaultgateway and is running
[18:07] <Orbixx> (including X, etc)
[18:08] <DareDevil0> pshr, now i have to start capturing with wireshark??
[18:08] <Brian_> how can i update to the new 9.10 from jaunty
[18:08] <pshr_> open wireshark you will find the packets
[18:08] <pshr_> if not
[18:08] <pshr_> enable ipv4 forwarding
[18:08] <pshr_> vim /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:08] <Spike1506> Orbixx, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:08] <rakesh> i hav sucessfuly installed user agent switch.....now what to do.....i m new user of linux help me
[18:08] <Qvintvs> does anyone know if you can enable fglrx for a particular user only? I had enabled it once and it sorta messed up X. I got a new monitor and I want to see if it'll make any difference, but I don't want to mess up X for my user.
[18:08] <pshr_> find a line stating ipv4 forward enable or make it yes aaccordinly
[18:08] <pshr_> :)
[18:08] <Msku> !shortcuts
[18:09] <DareDevil0> pshr, gooooooooooooddddddddddd thank you very much
[18:09] <DareDevil0> pshr, you have save my life
[18:09] <Msku> !partitions
[18:09] <pshr_> rakesh, user agent switch in what ?
[18:09] <Msku> !gparted
[18:09] <DareDevil0> pshr, i am very thankful
[18:09] <pshr_> np DareDevil0 ^_^
[18:09] <rakesh> using microsoft internet explorer in linux
[18:10] <Msku> so, my disk is so full that I cant install gparted and resize it :/
[18:10] <Irishmanluke> how are you using internet explorer in linux
[18:10] <Msku> and I just installed ubuntu, havent installed any other programs
[18:10] <pshr_> do you want to use it then wine would serve the purpose but i dont get it why you would like to use IE
[18:10] <unnheulu> to kick someone you dont like, type this: /kick #ubuntu <name>
[18:10] <pshr_> i'd rather say you go for firefox
[18:11] <unnheulu> */leave #ubuntu <name>
[18:11] <pshr_> !firefox | rakesh
[18:11] <[JavaShin]> !gentoo
[18:11] <quatar-it1> my connection was lost, i don't know if anyone answered. so i feel free to repeat my question! ;)
[18:11] <quatar-it1> Hi all. Does anyone know how to disable the middle-button-click->paste function in X? Please don't suggest me to remap my mouse buttons to 1 3 3: i do want a middle button, but i don't want it to work for the selection buffer!
[18:11] <[JavaShin]> !archlinux
[18:12] <rakesh> irishman ..i m not using but i want to use because i m getting problem in filling form as it asking to use window explorer
[18:12] <zebaztian> what are the video and audio recording apps on ubuntu? i want to record with the laptops' mic and camera
[18:12] <pshr_> rakesh, you with me ?
[18:12] <[JavaShin]> !shit
[18:12] <rakesh> pls help pshr
[18:12] <rf> hello
[18:12] <rakesh> hi
[18:12] <__theIdiotBox> !hi | rf
[18:12] <pshr_> I dont get your problem exactly what was it can you elaborate
[18:13] <rayne> !r
[18:13] <rf> any one has any idea of installing Texlive in ubunut 9.04
[18:13] <rakesh> hi thanks
[18:13] <rayne> Anyone familiar with R?
[18:13] <Spike1506> !terminal
[18:13] <__theIdiotBox> rayne, whats that R thing?
[18:14] <rakesh> genius suggest for my problem
[18:14] <rf> hello
[18:14] <rayne> __theIdiotBox, It is a open-source program that can be used to analyzing data
[18:14] <_dementor> hy how to open some port on my machine
[18:14] <_dementor> but not in console
[18:14] <rayne> __theIdiotBox, I'm using it instead of SPSS, which is not free and is the standard at my university.
[18:15] <__theIdiotBox> _dementor, are you familiar with iptables?
[18:15] <quatar-it1> Opinion poll: do you all like the middle-button-paste function in xorg? i don't! but neither in the forums nor here in the last minutes i found anyone who's able to disable it, without disabling all that button's functions!
[18:15] <ubuntistas> does anybody have idea why my cursor doesn't work at all?
[18:15] <ubuntistas> i mean it's not turning black but white and i want it black
[18:15] <Msku> plug your mouse in your USB contact?
[18:15] <Msku> :p
[18:15] <rakesh> is that nobody hav soln for my question
[18:16] <__theIdiotBox> rayne, dont have much idea on that, but can you add some information on the kinda of analysis you do on data etc. someone else might give you some feedback on that
[18:16] <cacs> I am having trouble with my monitor, anyone who can help?
[18:16] <__theIdiotBox> rakesh, what Question,btw?
[18:16] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, be specific...
[18:16] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, thx
[18:16] <__theIdiotBox> caci, go ahead...
[18:16] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, it's the screen resolution
[18:17] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I can only get 800x600
[18:17] <Irishmanluke> rakesh: this a horrible situation, to really run internet explorer you probably need to run it inside a virtualized windows system but it seems like there should be an easier way around this
[18:17] <ubuntistas> my pointer i mean my cursor in customization settings is turning blue only when i use the browser any clue?
[18:17] <rakesh> the idiot box.....actually i m filling an online form but it showing error that use microsoft window explorer...
[18:17] <__theIdiotBox> caci, okey...so what exactly is the problem? not able to set to some standard scree resolution?
[18:17] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, yes
[18:17] <ubuntistas> i mean black
[18:17] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, and whats the best supported by your h/w?
[18:17] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I am using Hardy at a school
[18:18]  * quatar-it1 apologizes for his english, but feel unnoticd :(
[18:18] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, what is the screen resolution of your monitor?
[18:18] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I'm not sure what the best is, but I have used at least 1024x768
[18:18] <rakesh> hi iditbox is there any soln
[18:18] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I don't see a name on my monitor
[18:18] <Brian_> is the daily build a final or what
[18:19] <Msku> I have a problem, I just installed ubuntu (dualboot with xp) but my disk is already full. How can I resize it? I can't even install GParted or anything. Even opening firefox gives me an error, saying my hard drive is too full
[18:19] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I am at a school and this monitor was donated
[18:19] <Irishmanluke> rakesh: ok I've got it
[18:19] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, okey cooo...so you want atleast that one, right? 1024x768 ..hmm
[18:19] <Msku> and I haven't installed any programs, so I have nothing to delete
[18:19] <Brian_> what is a daily build
[18:19] <Irishmanluke> rakesh: in firefox type about:config as your url
[18:19] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, yes, I would like to be able to use 1024x768
[18:19] <__theIdiotBox> cacs,  1024x768 is good enouugh for you, right?
[18:19] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, yes
[18:20] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, 1024x768 is adequate
[18:20] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, wait a min...
[18:20] <ubuntistas> my pointer i mean my cursor in customization settings is turning black only when i use the browser any clue?
[18:20] <ubuntistas> my pointer i mean my cursor in customization settings is turning black only when i use the browser any clue?
[18:20] <rakesh> irish man
[18:20] <pshr_> ubuntistas, did you try setting it to default ?
[18:20] <rakesh> i recently updated user agent switch....cn it works
[18:21] <pshr_> !elaborate | rakesh
[18:21] <Irishmanluke> rakesh: ok
[18:21] <ubuntistas> pshr yes but i want it black , i did a restart and it's black only when i use the browser
[18:21] <prior_> sounds like the cursor is affected by  your browser theme
[18:22] <hybbe> Why isn't BitchX available in apt-get?
[18:22] <Orbixx> I'm trying to install FreeNX as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX - however when I do 'sudo aptitude install freenx', I get: http://sprunge.us/OAIE
[18:22] <Orbixx> What is wrong?
[18:23] <ledbettj> hybbe: I was actually just looking for bitchx :) I'm not sure if it's maintained anymore.
[18:23] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, My monitor is an ADDS 3901
[18:23] <pshr_> ubuntistas, no idea on the issue can any one help out ubuntistas
[18:23] <Msku> is there some sort of task manager in ubuntu?
[18:23] <pshr_> Msku, type top in console
[18:23] <rakesh> i hav installed user agent switch and using in mozilla and it is also showing options to use internet explorer,opera but when i try to over write mozilla ..it is not working....suggest me how to use that
[18:23] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, i assume you are able to do that in say the other OS, might be windows...okey....
[18:23] <pshr_> or if you wish to have GUI there is always sytem monitor
[18:23] <hybbe> ledbettj: It must be available somewhere...
[18:23] <pepperphd> does anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on a powerpc chip? was it extremely painful?
[18:24] <Msku> ah k, thanks
[18:24] <ledbettj> hybbe: I found a source package on sourceforge.net (they might have a binary too), but it failed to build on my machine.
[18:24] <ubuntistas> ubuntistas is here and alive
[18:24] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, no, I actually was able to get 1024x768 with Hardy
[18:24] <Msku> can you help with another issue btw?
[18:24] <ledbettj> hybbe: bitchx.sourceforge.net if you want to give it a shot
[18:24] <pshr_> rakesh, did you restart the browser
[18:24] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, then something screwed up?
[18:24] <hybbe> ledbettj: Ok, will try that!
[18:24] <pshr_> rakesh, i've had experience with the in the past it worked fine with out errors
[18:24] <administrator_> i download a song but its not on desktop where it is ? ubungu 9
[18:25] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I moved the monitor to a different machine
[18:25] <pshr_> try refreshing the page aftetr yo do so
[18:25] <pshr_> !ask | Msku
[18:25] <Msku> whats the name of the Add/Remove programs process?
[18:25] <rakesh> file:///home/rakesh/Desktop/Browser.htm
[18:25] <Msku> that wasnt my question btw :p
[18:25] <AnNahar> hi, anyone around?
[18:25] <rakesh> see this is the problem
[18:25] <AnNahar> and have a working webcam?
[18:25] <AnNahar> i have a question about flash/webcams
[18:25] <pshr_> Msku, find it in Applications>add or remove
[18:26] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, and that machines OS[say linux] is able to detect the monitor properly and load the correspoding drivers, right?
[18:26] <AJC_Z0> After removing firefox-3.5 packages, then installing firefox-3.5 (which installed firefox, firefox-3.0, firefox-3.5, gnome and Ununtu brand packages) and switching /usr/bin/firefox to firefox-3.5, everything appears to work as before except that Firefox seems to ignore the "Use system proxy setting" but works fine with manual configuration. Clues?
[18:26] <Msku> well, add/remove programs app has frozen
[18:26] <Msku> and I want to close it, but I dont know the process' name
[18:26] <xikteny_> Msku: gnome-app-install
[18:26] <__theIdiotBox> !ask | AnNahar
[18:26] <AnNahar> i didn't ask to ask a question
[18:26] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, yes, the monitor worked with another machine.  In fact, it also worked with this machine.
[18:26] <pshr_> Msku, try ps -ax | grep add
[18:26] <pshr_> find pid and
[18:26] <AnNahar> so don't throw canned responses at me, thx
[18:26] <pshr_> kill -15 <pid>
[18:27] <rakesh> yes i hav restarted
[18:27] <Halitech> AnNahar, <AnNahar> i have a question about flash/webcams
[18:27] <slon2000ru> hallo
[18:27] <pshr_> Msku, as xikteny_ you can find a gnome app Force Quit
[18:27] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, have a look here you might get some idea to fix that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766846
[18:27] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, this machine seems to have spontaneously taken away options.  Now I only have 640x480
[18:27] <pshr_> try usning makes life much more easier
[18:27] <guntbert> AnNahar: please *read* the response - and state your question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily)
[18:27] <AnNahar> Halitech: and im sure you read my QUESTION after that?
[18:27] <clarinet> I use pppoeconf to connect to Internet, but Network Manager Applet doesn't work?
[18:27] <quatar-it1> TO ALL: does ANYONE know how to disable the middle-mouse-paste feature? - note that i won't remap my mouse buttons to make the middle be a clone of the left: i need the middle as it is, except for that annoying (for me) feature!
[18:27] <Welshy-Rob> HI im trying to record my desktop using "recordmydesktop" and when i click record i get rmd has exited with status:256 Error while parsing the arguments
[18:27] <AJC_Z0> AnNahar: Since joining you have written five lines but have yet to ask a question. That is a poor signal to noise ration. Just ask the question
[18:27] <pshr_> !hi | slon2000ru
[18:27] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, thanks, looking now
[18:27] <oviedovive> how to learn have scripts?
[18:28] <clarinet> somebody can help me?
[18:28] <AnNahar> weird
[18:28] <pshr_> !elaborate | oviedovive
[18:28] <AnNahar> i must have not hit enter
[18:28] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, cool, you're welcome
[18:28] <AnNahar> i thought i had said
[18:28] <Halitech> AnNahar, didn't see anything from you after that
[18:28] <AnNahar> "does anyone have a working webcam in ubuntu?"
[18:28] <__theIdiotBox> clarinet, go ahead...
[18:28] <strider_> hi
[18:28] <pshr_> yes Halitech
[18:28] <slon2000ru> im there still with my old problem i cant use #make all. Please help me - http://paste.ubuntu.com/262696/
[18:28] <Halitech> AnNahar, yes I do when I have it hooked up
[18:28] <AnNahar> Halitech: is it hooked up now?
[18:28] <B9hummingbirdhov> ello
[18:28] <Halitech> AnNahar, no its not
[18:28] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, yes i've
[18:28] <pshr_> !hi | B9hummingbirdhov
[18:28] <Msku> I don't understand much of what happens when I write that command, pshr
[18:28] <AnNahar> __theIdiotBox: please tell me if this works for you
[18:29] <clarinet> Network Manager doesn't work.
[18:29] <AnNahar> http://www.facebook.com/swf/fvr.swf
[18:29] <AnNahar> you dont need a facebook account
[18:29] <Msku> "Msku, try ps -ax | grep add"
[18:29] <pshr_> well it finds the pid of the process like add or remove in your case
[18:29] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, wait a min...lemme check
[18:29] <AnNahar> thanks
[18:29] <Msku> the list that appeared was pretty unreadable to me
[18:29] <Msku> as in, I didn't understand anything :/
[18:29] <clarinet> How to fix that?
[18:29] <B9hummingbirdhov> this is my first time in IRC :-)
[18:29] <clarinet> I want to use Network Manager.
[18:30] <mweichert> has anyone used softraid with external usb drives?
[18:30] <xikteny_> Msku: try 'killall gnome-app-install'
[18:30] <strider_> Is there a place where I can follow the evolution of Ubuntu development, for example I just saw that empathy was just removed from the default install of Karmic koala and i'd like to find out why
[18:30] <pshr_> Msku, guess that wont work try xikteny_ 's suggestion
[18:30] <strider_> can't find this info on Launchpad
[18:30] <__theIdiotBox> caci, did that help?
[18:30] <grawity> B9hummingbirdhov: Welcome to #ubuntu, then.
[18:30] <Orbixx> I'm trying to install FreeNX as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX - however when I do 'sudo aptitude install freenx', I get: http://sprunge.us/OAIE
[18:30] <__theIdiotBox> B9hummingbirdhov, welcome to #ubuntu....
[18:31] <Msku> ok killall gnome-app-install seemed to do the job
[18:31] <Msku> thanks
[18:31] <Msku> but, what does it do?
[18:31] <Spike1506> strider_, i thought empathy had replace pidgin in karmic :o
[18:31] <pshr_> B9hummingbirdhov, guess this helps
[18:31] <pshr_> !irc | B9hummingbirdhov
[18:31] <B9hummingbirdhov> grawity and the idiotbox thanks...
[18:31] <easy> Is there a shortcut key on the keyboard to minimize everything and show the desktop?
[18:32] <pshr_> Msku, kills the process
[18:32] <Msku> ctr+alt+d
[18:32] <clarinet> I use pppoeconf to connect to Internet, but Network Manager Applet doesn't work?
[18:32] <easy> sweet, thanks.
[18:32] <strider_> Spike1506, yeah well it was but it was removed in my last upgrade
[18:32] <Msku> oh, so gnome-app-install is the name of the process?
[18:32] <_21h_> hi all. i have mounted ssh server via nautilus to my computer. after file transfer to ssh Nautilus dies. anybody know how to fix this? GNOME nautilus 2.26.2
[18:32] <__theIdiotBox> B9hummingbirdhov, use tabs for name completion
[18:32] <Msku> np
[18:32] <xikteny_> Msku: yes, killall kills processes by name, rather than pid
[18:32] <Msku> okay
[18:32] <Msku> but
[18:32] <strider_> but this was just an example, i'd like to follow what's going on with the Ubuntu updates
[18:33] <proq> I don't have 3D acceleration with my intel driver but I tested and it works in karmic.  but karmic is very unstable and I can upgrade my whole system - is there a way to dist-upgrade *just* this working intel driver?
[18:33] <Msku> ok
[18:33] <pshr_> clarinet, does that show no connectivity
[18:33] <pshr_> or your network totally doesnt work at all
[18:33] <pshr_> ??
[18:33] <Halitech> AnNahar, just hooked my webcam up and that link to facebook works for me
[18:33] <AnNahar> Halitech: you can see yourself?
[18:33] <clarinet> pshr_:Yeah.
[18:33] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, and it worked for me too...
[18:33] <AnNahar> i dont understand what i am missing here
[18:33] <pshr_> you got the connectivity right ?
[18:34] <Halitech> AnNahar, yes ...well its not aimed at me but I see my livingroom
[18:34] <AnNahar> Halitech: are you sure the picture is not locked?
[18:34] <B9hummingbirdhov> I know this isn't the appropriate place but I am flying blind... I want to create simple calligraphy animations for a Wikiversity site using open source applications that are simple because I haven't done anything like that before... does anybody have any ideas where I should go to seek advice?
[18:34] <clarinet> pshr_: it said no activity.
[18:34] <Halitech> AnNahar, does it work in a program like cheese?
[18:34] <Halitech> AnNahar, yes, just swung my arm in front of it to confirm
[18:34] <pshr_> you are connected right now right ?
[18:34] <AnNahar> Halitech: my webcam works with everything else
[18:34] <AnNahar> but ive tried two webcams with this app
[18:34] <AnNahar> and neither work with this app, but i need this app to record/send videos in facebook
[18:34] <Msku> I'm gonna ask this again, since no one replied. Is there any way I can resize my partition? I just installed Ubuntu and the partition is obviously full, even though I haven't installed any programs or anything yet. I can't even open Firefox (it says I need to clear some disk space, god knows why). I don't have disk space to install Gparted :/
[18:34] <AnNahar> the other facebook app for still pictures works fine
[18:34] <Halitech> AnNahar, did you get the window asking to allow access?
[18:35] <strider_> the karmic-changes ML might be what i'm looking for ...
[18:35] <AnNahar> Halitech: yeah, i allowed that, the mic works, just not video
[18:35] <AnNahar> i don't get a proper display
[18:35] <slon2000ru> im there still with my old problem i cant use #make all. Please help me - http://paste.ubuntu.com/262696/
[18:35] <quatar-it1> Hi all. does anyone know HOW TO disable the middle-mous-paste feature?
[18:35] <quatar-it1> ...and this WITHOUT re-mapping the middle button to a clone of the left one!
[18:35] <quatar-it1> I apologize for my english.
[18:35] <slon2000ru> pleas ehelp me
[18:35] <Halitech> AnNahar, strange
[18:35] <AnNahar> Halitech: even if i use flash standalone app
[18:35] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, seems to some problem with your webcam....
[18:35] <AnNahar> __theIdiotBox: ive tried it with two different kinds of webcams
[18:35] <__theIdiotBox> !patience | quatar-it1
[18:36] <guntbert> Msku: did you install from booting with the CD or are you using wubi?
[18:36] <Msku> I booted from the CD
[18:36] <AnNahar> box, what do i type to show the output of /var/log/messages as things happen?
[18:36] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, but to no avail? :-(
[18:36] <Msku> I'm actually dualbooting
[18:36] <AnNahar> box, no:(
[18:36] <pshr_> clarinet, google for some thing like setting ifupdown (eth0)
[18:36] <AnNahar> box, other flash apps work fine
[18:36] <rayne> How do I install Java in Jaunty on a 64bit?
[18:36] <Msku> I had XP installed, inserted ubuntu 9.04 and installed it
[18:36] <pshr_> i had the same issue in the past
[18:36] <slon2000ru> oh are there somebody who knew how in ubuntu are compiling drivers by #make all?
[18:36] <Msku> chose to isntall it next to XP
[18:36] <quatar-it1> __theIdiotBox: thanks ;) i didn't even know if anyone read me!
[18:36] <pshr_> and if you find the answer clarinet let me know :)
[18:36] <guntbert> !who | Msku
[18:36] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, i guess you can use tail -f , rigth?
[18:36] <sgallagh> Is the inability to use ctrl-c on Ubuntu Karmic when connected via SSH a known issue?
[18:37] <__theIdiotBox> quatar-it1, everyone is watching whats goingn on here...don't feel neglected....
[18:37] <Msku> guntbert: question was for you I guess :p
[18:37] <decembre> hello
[18:37] <__theIdiotBox> quatar-it1, did you try googling, btw?
[18:37] <clarinet> pshr_: OK. Thanks.
[18:37] <AnNahar> Sep  1 12:37:29 home klogd: zc3xx: probe 2wr ov vga 0x0000
[18:37] <decembre> does someone here use kopete in kde4 ?
[18:38] <guntbert> Msku: please !pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and of df -h
[18:38] <decembre> I can't have video in chat window, whereas the webcam seems to be correctly viewed !
[18:38] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, u there?
[18:38] <YeTr2> Msku: `aptitude clean` should purge all the .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives and give you enough space to install gparted and resize your disk.
[18:38] <slon2000ru> are there an ubuntu guru?
[18:38] <slon2000ru> please help e
[18:38] <Spike1506> slon2000ru, just ask
[18:38] <Orbixx> Can somebody explain why 'aptitude install freenx' isn't working, even when I've added the repositories?
[18:38] <Msku> !pastebin Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[18:38] <Msku> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[18:38] <Msku> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[18:38] <Msku> Disk identifier: 0xc553c553
[18:38] <Msku>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:38] <Msku> /dev/sda1   *           1       14267   114599646    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:38] <FloodBot2> Msku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <slon2000ru>  i cant use #make all. Please help me - http://paste.ubuntu.com/262696/
[18:39] <pshr_> !pastebin | Msku
[18:39] <calrik_> Orbixx: try apt-get install freenx
[18:39] <slon2000ru> after #make all eror - http://paste.ubuntu.com/262696/
[18:39] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, hi, I'm still working using that link you gave me, thanks!
[18:39] <Msku> guntbert: I cant open the web browser, too little disk space, lol
[18:39] <slon2000ru> Spike1506 please help me
[18:39] <Orbixx> calrik_: http://sprunge.us/FeIK
[18:40] <Msku> guntbert: so I cant open the pastebin :/
[18:40] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, ooh cooool...
[18:40] <slon2000ru> oh
[18:40] <grawity> wget!
[18:40] <guntbert> Msku: I see - let me think
[18:41] <gronlund> I just installed ubuntu server, didn't want everything in the ubuntu desktop install, but I can't get the sound working, but it does work in the desktop environment, I was wondering what script or so makes it work?
[18:41] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: why are you trying to custom comile a kernel?
[18:41] <calrik_> Orbixx: possible to use synaptic package manager that will help resolve your dependencies
[18:41] <Orbixx> calrik_: I'm on CLI only.
[18:41] <sharperguy> Anyone happen to know how I can get my laptop screen to light up white at a certain time? Maybe even flash?
[18:41] <calrik_> ah k
[18:41] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: i wont to install driver for my lan
[18:41] <slon2000ru> asus n1101
[18:41] <Msku> guntbert: want me to msg you ? It's not that many lines of text
[18:41] <sharperguy> ^This is assuming the power saving might have kicked in and turned the screen off
[18:42] <calrik_> Obixx: tried apt-get freenx-vnc first?
[18:42] <Halitech> Msku, can you run sudo apt-get clean and get any room?
[18:42] <guntbert> Msku: ok, go ahead
[18:42] <sgallagh> Are questions pertaining to Karmic pre-releases appropriate here, or is there a different room for those?
[18:42] <calrik_> Obixx: tried apt-get install freenx-vnc rather
[18:42] <Halitech> !9.10
[18:42] <AnNahar> doesn't look like there's anything in dmesg about it
[18:42] <cacs> __theIdiotBox,
[18:42] <slon2000ru> there is txt file how to install this driver - i must write #make all to install it
[18:42] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, whats the issue?
[18:42] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: I don't see any device by that name. what is the name given to the device by lspci?
[18:42] <sayanriju> Orbixx, #aptitude update
[18:43] <sgallagh> Halitech: Was that directed at me?
[18:43] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, well, I followed the steps on this page, but it didn't work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766846&page=2 so I am still trying
[18:43] <Halitech> sgallagh, yes
[18:43] <Ben64> !10.04
[18:43] <Orbixx> http://sprunge.us/RWfa
[18:43] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: this device i cant see only in sysinfo
[18:43] <Msku> Halitech: still can't open my web browser
[18:44] <Halitech> Msku, ok, was worth a shot
[18:44] <guntbert> Msku: and now df -h please too
[18:44] <sgallagh> Halitech: Thanks. I didn't catch the last part of that at first.
[18:44] <ToreadorVampire> Quick question - when's Karmic due?  I've lost track of time
[18:44] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, okey...how far have you been....okey let me go through that page....
[18:44] <Msku> oh right, i forgot
[18:44] <slon2000ru>  YeTr2: asus nx1101
[18:44] <slon2000ru> lan
[18:44] <ToreadorVampire> Ohwait, nm, found it
[18:44] <Halitech> Msku, will synaptic open? maybe you can remove something that you don't need for now
[18:44] <slon2000ru> :-(
[18:44] <rakesh> hi
[18:44] <ToreadorVampire> "The final stable version will be released on October 29th, 2009" « I thought it was "soon"
[18:44] <Ben64> ToreadorVampire: 9.10 = 2009/10
[18:45] <slon2000ru> oh i vant use this device and cant install driver :-(
[18:45] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I followed the steps recommended by hurtstotalktoyou but it didn't work, so now I am following the steps recommended by nemodot
[18:45] <rakesh> help me how to use user agent switch to use microsft window explorer in ubuntu
[18:45] <Msku> Halitech: Synaptic package manager is the "add/remove programs" tool?
[18:45] <panfist> hey...totally unrelated to ubuntu...but maybe someone will know...when drawing a simple flowchart (not UML or something like that) how do you indicate a loop
[18:46] <Msku> if you know what I mean :p
[18:46] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, I am now following these steps http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4794097&postcount=13
[18:46] <Halitech> Msku, no but add/remove will work as well
[18:46] <ToreadorVampire> Also, I do hate it when people use the version numerics ... if people are going to use them then stop publishing the friendly codenames :(  Any time someone mentions a flat version number I always end up having ask them "well, goddamn, which ones is that?"
[18:46] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, fine...in the mean time...let me look for some other ways to fix that....
[18:46] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: you need to make sure that the headers for your kernel are installed on the system.
[18:46] <guntbert> Msku: the problem is: your / partition (/dev/sda5 has only 2GB), that *is* too low
[18:46] <Ben64> rakesh: user agent switcher doesn't let you use a microsoft program, only appear like another browser to a server
[18:46] <ToreadorVampire> IE:  Make one convention or the other universal
[18:46] <cacs> __theIdiotBox, thx!
[18:46] <Msku> guntbert: I see, any way I can change that without reinstalling?
[18:46] <guntbert> Halitech: Msku has only 2GB :-(
[18:47] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[18:47] <slon2000ru> oh but how i can shured?
[18:47] <Ben64> !karmic | ToreadorVampire
[18:47] <rakesh> ben 64..is that i cant use it in linux
[18:47] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: you also need build-essential installed as well.
[18:47] <Ben64> gives you version, release, and codename
[18:47] <__theIdiotBox> cacs, you're welcome dude!
[18:47] <Ben64> rakesh: not sure what you're asking...?
[18:47] <Halitech> guntbert, ahhh, wubi install that went wrong?
[18:47] <slon2000ru> build-essentialn are installed
[18:47] <ToreadorVampire> Ben64: oic - handy channelbot, but I am actually referring more to chat outside of this channel (I don't actually come in here that often)
[18:48] <guntbert> Msku: lets put it so: are there any important data in your installation?
[18:48] <AnNahar> idiotbox, who might i speak to about it?
[18:48] <rakesh> ben 64 i want to use window explorer in ubuntu
[18:48] <ToreadorVampire> Ben64: tbh I wasn't talking directly at you - just kind of thinking out loud
[18:48] <Msku> nope, I just installed it 1 hour ago
[18:48] <guntbert> Halitech: I have no experience with wubi, so I cannot possibly know :-)
[18:48] <Ben64> ToreadorVampire: i know, but its really easy to find codename->version and vice versa
[18:48] <Msku> but, I wasn't even asked to choose the size of my partition during the installation :S
[18:48] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: are the headers for your kernel installed?
[18:48] <Ben64> rakesh: windows explorer or internet explorer? and why?
[18:48] <Halitech> rakesh, Tools - Default User Agent - IE 7 for vista
[18:48] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, about that webcam issue? or is it something else?
[18:48] <ToreadorVampire> Ben64: What I hate is that there is no way to derive the friendly codename from the numeric or vice-versa, the only way to do it is via a table/lookup
[18:49] <AnNahar> theidiot, yes
[18:49] <AnNahar> webcam issue with that flash program
[18:49] <mbeierl> does anyone know how to use libpam_mount?
[18:49] <AnNahar> im wondering what forum or list would be relevant
[18:49] <ToreadorVampire> Which is annoying because (even offline) someone can say "I'm using 8.10" and my response is always "Erm, which one is that?  Is it Hardy?"
[18:49] <Halitech> guntbert, I've never used it either (don't even dual boot) but I've seen some posts where people will use it and the size is 2.3gig
[18:49] <ToreadorVampire> !hardy
[18:49] <Ben64> ToreadorVampire: or just remember :3 2009 = J,K; 2010 = L,M, 2011 = N,O....etc
[18:49] <ToreadorVampire> Hmm, in that case I would have been wrong
[18:49] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: no
[18:49] <rakesh> ben64..i want to fill a form for mnc..but when i m filling it says that u will only able to fill the form by window explorer
[18:49] <slon2000ru> i install it now
[18:50] <slon2000ru> and what i must do now?
[18:50] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, may be you can try posting regarding that problem with a detailed information on ubuntuforums.org ...
[18:50] <ElDuderino> hey
[18:50] <Ben64> rakesh: you can use user agent switcher on Firefox to tell the website that you are using Internet Explorer, and the site should then work fine.
[18:50] <Halitech> rakesh, Tools - Default User Agent - IE 7 for vista
[18:50] <Msku> I could reinstall ubuntu, but I don't really know how to change the size of the partition when it's not an option during the installing
[18:50] <Msku> installation*
[18:50] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: and what now?
[18:50] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, but i'm sure you can get some definite help out here in this channel....just have some patience.... and hang around...
[18:50] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: try your make command now
[18:50] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway, all is well
[18:51] <AnNahar> theidiot, i didn't mean to sound complaining abuot the channel, sorry:)
[18:51] <guntbert> Msku: yes, I have seen weird things in the installer now and then - my best advice would be to reinstall (from booting the CD, *not* from windows), and take a good look at the proposed partitioning scheme
[18:51] <AnNahar> im just wondering if i should talk to people about a flash issue, etc
[18:51] <ElDuderino> can someone help me fix my resolution? editing xorg doesnt seem to help. It displays 800*600 res instead of 1024*768 but the driver is working just fine, even the effects and all
[18:51] <guntbert> Halitech: you could be right about the 2.3 GB :-)
[18:52] <YeTr2> ElDuderino: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:52] <Msku> okay, I'll try that guntbert
[18:52] <Ben64> ElDuderino: what video card?
[18:52] <Halitech> guntbert, well it seems to be the bare minimum that Ubuntu will install on
[18:52] <Msku> thanks for your help so far, I'll let you know how it works out :p
[18:52] <slon2000ru> please help me after #make all - http://paste.ubuntu.com/263301/
[18:52] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, i'm pretty sure someone else might be having that problem as well...so just wait for THAT someone to come in here...and yes try to put as much detailed information as you can....that would definitely help...
[18:52] <rakesh> halitech ..what u want to say .is that u r telling fist go to tolls then ie7.im not getting this options
[18:53] <slon2000ru> what is - kernel/bounds.c'
[18:53] <rakesh> what happened ben.....do u hav soln
[18:53] <xikteny> rakesh: have you found and installed the usaer agent switcher extension?
[18:53] <slon2000ru> oh
[18:53] <mazda01> slon2000ru, don't know foreign langauge. do you have the kernel sources installed?
[18:53] <ElDuderino> http://pastebin.com/m33b5b3cc
[18:53] <Halitech> rakesh, no, go to Tools - Default User Agent - IE 7 (Vista)
[18:53] <mazda01> slon2000ru, do you have the build-essential package installed?
[18:53] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: heh... my russian, is non-existant. you might have better luck /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:53] <slon2000ru> how i can do it?
[18:53] <YeTr2> err...
[18:53] <ElDuderino> nvidia 5200fx
[18:54] <mazda01> slon2000ru, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:54] <slon2000ru> there error with kernel/bounds.c'
[18:54] <guntbert> Msku: on the partitioning page you see the proposal at the bottom, in there there is a small white symbol, you can drag that, but I would advice that you first boot into the live system
[18:54] <slon2000ru> yes  i have build-essential
[18:54] <Ben64> rakesh: what?
[18:54] <jqiang> hi all
[18:54] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, i physically not at this channel for 5 mins in between so i might have missed something...but as I remember you were not able to get that facebook link working, right? now you narrrowed it down to the flash problem. is that the case soo far?
[18:54] <__theIdiotBox> !hi | jqiang
[18:54] <rxcjack> Hi, is there anyone here available to help me figure out an issue?
[18:54] <Ben64> ElDuderino: did you fix resolution yet?
[18:54] <mazda01> slon2000ru, are you using sudo make all?
[18:54] <rakesh> xikteny..i hav found but i dont know how to proceed
[18:54] <__theIdiotBox> rxcjack, go ahead
[18:55] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: there is error - no discription to install kernel/bounds.c
[18:55] <mazda01> rxcjack, just ask your question
[18:55] <Daniel1> hello I've installed AWN but the actual dock is not appearing whats wrong?
[18:55] <slon2000ru> mazda01: yes
[18:55] <AnNahar> theidiot, im not sure what it is, since it's working for ya'll
[18:55] <jqiang> I have troubles seeing the channel 13 on a dell mini 10v with plain ubuntu 9.04
[18:55] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: try running as root
[18:55] <ElDuderino> Ben64: no
[18:55] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: i use sudo
[18:55] <xikteny> rakesh: ok, in firefox, do you have Tools > Default User Agent ?
[18:55] <rakesh> in default user agent there are no options of tools....
[18:55] <YeTr2> hmm
[18:55] <slon2000ru> how i can login as root
[18:55] <Ben64> ElDuderino: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:55] <Halitech> slon2000ru, you don't, prefix the command with sudo
[18:55] <rakesh> i hav just intalled..xitney
[18:56] <rxcjack> Well, I upgraded to Karmic last night. Obviously using Firefox 3.5.2 now. It seems that everything on Facebook has extra padding around it. It's not like that on 3.5.2 on Windows either.
[18:56] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, yep I guess its working for those who responded to that, right? okey......
[18:56] <Ben64> ElDuderino: what's the maximum your monitor can support? what brand/model is it? crt? lcd?
[18:56] <mazda01> slon2000ru, you don't ever really need to login as root. just use sudo with command or do sudo -i to change to user root.
[18:56] <xikteny> rakesh: did you restart firefox after installing extension?
[18:56] <slon2000ru> i use sudo
[18:56] <slon2000ru> Halitech: and what i can do now?
[18:56] <__theIdiotBox> rxcjack, did you google on that, btw?
[18:56] <rxcjack> I did.
[18:56] <__theIdiotBox> rxcjack, but no help?
[18:56] <ElDuderino> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/m5fc29d98  its an old samtron 56V, it can do 1024*768
[18:56] <rxcjack> Nope.
[18:56] <rakesh> yes xikteny
[18:57] <blade> hi could some one please help i installed ubuntu 9.04 from disk and also install ubuntu 8.10 from disk on duel boot, dont ask why. Is there any way of compleatly removing 8.10 and keeping 9.04 with out starting from the beginning.....Thanks
[18:57] <mazda01> slon2000ru, as I said, I can't help really as I don't understand the langauge you posted your output in.
[18:57] <Halitech> slon2000ru, no idea, I just caught your post about logging in as root
[18:57] <xikteny> rakesh: OK go to Tools > Add-ons
[18:57] <guntbert> Halitech: I suppose he will come back soon, because the partions on disk are *now* (at least) problematical, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/263305/
[18:57] <ElDuderino> Ben64: thats what i got on my windows and dreamlinux partition
[18:57] <slon2000ru> Halitech:  ok senk u i try
[18:57] <slon2000ru> mazda01: i can translate
[18:57] <xikteny> rakesh: is "User Agent Switcher" listed there?
[18:57] <mazda01> blade, are they on different partitions? just delete the 8.10 partition and resize your 9.04 partition with gparted.
[18:57] <rakesh> i i hav gone to add ons but not getting the options of tool......xikteny
[18:58] <Daniel1> harro? My AWN dock thingy isn't showing despite the program installing properly what do?
[18:58] <slon2000ru> mazda01: there is a problem with install's discription to kernel/bounds.c'
[18:58] <rakesh> yes ..user agent is listed there
[18:58] <YeTr2> ElDuderino: comment out your modeline in the Monitor section, and change the Modes to just "1024x768" in the display subsection of the secreen section
[18:58] <rakesh> xiteny yes it is listed
[18:58] <slon2000ru> [prepare0] Error 2
[18:58] <Ben64> ElDuderino: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263309/
[18:58] <ElDuderino> okay
[18:58] <xikteny> rakesh: select it, select "Preferences"
[18:58] <Halitech> guntbert, yup, looks like about 2 gig in an extended partition, glad its not me
[18:58] <Ben64> ElDuderino: replace your monitor section in xorg.conf with that
[18:58] <Ben64> ElDuderino: but make a BACKUP first!
[18:59] <blade> mazda01, do i need to put the disk in or can i do it from commands
[18:59] <rakesh> yaa i hav selected it...xikteny....
[18:59] <Halitech> ElDuderino, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[18:59] <xikteny> rakesh: is the "Hide the user agent switcher tools menu" box checked?
[18:59] <rakesh> yes....and i hav ticked on it
[19:00] <AnNahar> idiot, i have a confession
[19:00] <mazda01> blade, when you're in 9.04, you can use gparted to remove the partition that holds 8.04.
[19:00] <blade> mazda01, or is it possible with gparted
[19:00] <xikteny> rakesh: UN-check it, select "OK"
[19:00] <YeTr2> ElDuderino: also consider removing the horiz & vert refresh rates from the monitor section.. xorg normally does a fairly good job of detecting them.
[19:00] <blade> mazda01, ok thanks for your help
[19:00] <ElDuderino> i did all that
[19:00] <Beefcaked> cool pidgin is pretty okay
[19:00] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, go ahead...and plz use the tab for writing the full nick...
[19:00] <ElDuderino> i mean i pasted bens thing
[19:00] <slon2000ru> when i root error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/263310/
[19:00] <musictoto> hi guys. i'm lookin to use the new notifier in ubuntu in one of my self-made C programs. should i use the same approach as with libnotify, or is it a different approach? can you give me a documentation website or something? thanks
[19:00] <AnNahar> well, im using fedora:)   apparently it may be some distro issue because another fedora user is having my same problem
[19:00] <slon2000ru> there all on english
[19:00] <rakesh> un check it means not to tick it.....xikteny
[19:00] <AnNahar> but now i know it works in ubuntu, so that is helpful:)
[19:01] <mazda01> blade, i just recently resized my home and / partitions in gparted and it worked without losing any data but i would back up any critical data just in case
[19:01] <ElDuderino> and changed the screen section _60
[19:01] <lyrae_> since last update, my syster crashes alot. where are the system logs?
[19:01] <Beefcaked> O:-)
[19:01] <xikteny> rakesh: yes, the tick box should be blank
[19:01] <ElDuderino> ill restart
[19:01] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, ohhh is that...coool...but did you try asking the same Q in #fedora
[19:01] <AnNahar> __theIdiotBox: yeah, and they said it doesn't work for them
[19:01] <rakesh> now what i should click ok..
[19:01] <AnNahar> but it also may be some driver thing. what camera driver do you use?
[19:02] <xikteny> rakesh: : Now, is Tools > Default User Agent there?
[19:02] <slon2000ru> oh so are there somebody who can install lan drivers on ubuntu?
[19:02] <slon2000ru> who knew how to do it?
[19:02] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, i never checked that manually but thats what comes with te=he base sys on jaunty
[19:02] <mazda01> slon2000ru, what is it exactly you're trying to do?
[19:02] <rakesh> should i click reset options
[19:02] <slon2000ru> mazda01:  as root in driver folder - make all - error http://paste.ubuntu.com/263310/
[19:03] <mazda01> slon2000ru, what ethernet chipset do you have that isn't recognized by default
[19:03] <lyrae_> Which log would i look at to try to determine what caused my system to crash
[19:03] <slon2000ru> asus nx1101
[19:03] <AnNahar> __theIdiotBox: i mean the camera model
[19:03] <mazda01> slon2000ru, what are you tryingt o install a lan driver for
[19:03] <xikteny> rakesh: hey I've PMED you
[19:03] <blade> mazda01, ok i have 3 linux swap now im confused
[19:03] <Beefcaked> hi i just checked the groups in this new ubuntu installation (im new to ubuntu) why is there a group with the same name of my username?
[19:03] <slon2000ru> mazda01: driver for asus nx1101 from asus support web
[19:03] <rakesh> i hav got the optins
[19:03] <__theIdiotBox> AnNahar, i never checked that ...its the integrated one with dell studio 1555
[19:03] <rakesh> now what
[19:04] <AnNahar> oic
[19:04] <gl00pz> does anyone knows how to configure dual monitor on ubuntu 9.04 running on DELL D510, intel video card 910GML?
[19:04] <Beefcaked> is that normal to have a group with the same name as your username?
[19:04] <Ritzerisk> is it bad if i have a bootloading USB but move it to multiple computers all the time
[19:04] <Rayne> hey rayne_ :P
[19:04] <llutz> Beefcaked: if usergroups are enabled, yes
[19:04] <domo1> how do i get the version of a specific package by use apt-get ?
[19:04] <slon2000ru> mazda01:there is installiation guild - http://paste.ubuntu.com/263315/
[19:04] <joncalhoun> #optacular
[19:04] <Beefcaked> llutz are they enabled by default? this is new installation and i havent configured anything yet
[19:04] <xikteny> rakesh: User agent menu is there now?
[19:05] <keith> Just installed - update manager comes on - get message out of disk space. Can anyone help. Thanks.
[19:05] <rakesh> i got three options.....opera,internet exp.....now what to do//////pls help x
[19:05] <slon2000ru> mazda01: please read where is my eroor?
[19:05] <grawity> rakesh: Try "Internet Explorer"
[19:05] <llutz> Beefcaked: grep USERGROUPS /etc/adduser.conf
[19:05] <MythBork> supid question, can anyone tell me how to set the permissions on a directory in order to force all new files in it to have a certain permissions setting?
[19:05] <h3liix> gl00ps: dvi?
[19:05] <Halitech> AnNahar, I'm using a Creative Live!
[19:05] <rakesh> how to use......in linux.....
[19:05] <xikteny> rakesh: Internet Explorer > Internet Explorer 7
[19:05] <slon2000ru> mazda01: what i must to do to install it?
[19:05] <grawity> rakesh: Did you try User Agent Switcher?
[19:06] <Beefcaked> llutz sorry im new to all of this as well. but is it normal to have that in a new installation? :s
[19:06] <xikteny> rakesh: now try using the web site that was giving you ttrouble
[19:06] <AnNahar> Halitech: and it works fine for you?
[19:06] <Halitech> AnNahar, works great
[19:06] <slon2000ru> oh my problem without happy end how i can see
[19:06] <AnNahar> thanks sir
[19:06] <llutz> Beefcaked: it seems to be so
[19:06] <ohir> keith: reinstall giving enough space
[19:06] <Halitech> AnNahar, np
[19:07] <slon2000ru> oh somebody please read this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/263315/- what i must to do to install this driver?
[19:07] <mazda01> slon2000ru, have you goggled it? i can't seem to be able help. it appears like the driver download package doesn't have the correct information to build correctly on ubuntu from the errors I am seeing
[19:07] <rakesh> i i hav selected the internet explorer but im getting optins like..add....edit....del
[19:07] <chrispitzer> ubuntu rebooted and lost many of my app names.  For instance, "firefox" is now called "shiretoko" and the archiver is now referred to as "usr/bin/file-roller" etc...
[19:07] <chrispitzer> any idea what's up?
[19:07] <rayne_> Rayne, lol
[19:07] <ohir> keith: for 'just try' it should be some 4-8G. For any real experience 12-20G
[19:07] <cheezespread> slon2000ru: Thats pastebin url is not complete
[19:07] <slon2000ru> mazda01: oh so what now i cant use this lan device on ubuntu?
[19:08] <hultas> qowkcqw
[19:08] <slon2000ru> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263315/
[19:08] <__theIdiotBox> chrispitzer, you mean a lot of apps got rename automatically ...funny!
[19:08] <gl00pz> h3liix: I have a notebook D510, I would like to use the vga output with a lenovo lcd monitor
[19:08] <rakesh> r u there xikteny
[19:08] <Cptnodegard> anyone know whats the problem when ubuntu seems to be booting fine but after the loading screen it starts blinking lots of green lines?
[19:08] <Cptnodegard> twice
[19:08] <keith> before reinstalling do i have to uninstall first?
[19:08] <Cptnodegard> ubuntu live
[19:08] <slon2000ru> cheezespread: please read http://paste.ubuntu.com/263315/
[19:08] <Cptnodegard> from usb
[19:09] <Guest47513> what's the simplest way to network/share files between 2 Linux boxes that use the same wireless router?
[19:09] <gl00pz> h3liix: I create a xorg.conf manually, I cant sent you if wanna take a look
[19:09] <slon2000ru> are there somebody who already have installed lan device from Asus
[19:09] <slon2000ru> so i knew what i can do now i destory it this f*&^&*^ lun asus device
[19:10] <slon2000ru> asus suxxxxx
[19:10] <gl00pz> h3liix: I *can* sent you
[19:10] <ohir> keith: 1) use nick to whomever you're talking to. 2) no, it all will get lost when you will resize partition for ubuntu.
[19:11] <hultas> Hey, anyone using irssi here? Please /q me
[19:11] <slon2000ru> ok please help me are there some lan devices with !1gb port thats are fully compatable with ubuntu?
[19:11] <Pici> hultas: The official irssi support channel is #irssi
[19:12] <hultas> Pici: Thanks!
[19:12] <tony99> can someone tell me how hard drives get named.....is it by the position on the wire or the order you add them to the pc....like if i unplug my sda and sdb......and put the sdc in the sda spot it would then stay sda right
[19:12] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: intel & realtek generally are.
[19:12] <tony99> even if i add the old sda and sdb
[19:12] <slon2000ru> i need 1gb speed on my server and looking for device which can work with ubunty
[19:12] <SockPants> hi
[19:12] <sgallagh> How does one install the debuginfo for an ubuntu package to debug it?
[19:12] <SockPants> i'm trying to get compiz desktop cube to work
[19:12] <SockPants> i've enabled the driver, enabled the extra effects, and installed CCSM
[19:13] <SockPants> and i've checked the desktop cube
[19:13] <SockPants> the shortcut is ctrl+alt+down, but nothing happens
[19:13] <SockPants> how do I get the cube?
[19:13] <Pici> !debug | sgallagh this should get you started, also #ubuntu-bugs may be able to help out
[19:13] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: what could you possibly be doing that requires gigabit speeds?
[19:13]  * crack05 is away (Away !!)
[19:13] <jedi06> trying to make a web banner what is a good tool for this gimp?
[19:13] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: there so many pc in my home lan
[19:14] <sgallagh> YeTr2: Running a home media server?
[19:14] <sharperguy> Anyone happen to know how I can get my laptop screen to light up white at a certain time? Maybe even to flash? Also the power saving may have turned the screen of at that point.
[19:14] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: all my file on this servre
[19:14] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: i and all in my homenet start programs from server storage
[19:14] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, never heard of something like this....
[19:15] <YeTr2> sgallagh: unless you are streaming uncompressed HD movies, or you must absolutely need it all now, I don't see a point in it.
[19:15] <slon2000ru> so i need 1gb speed nad looking for devices which compatable with ubuntu
[19:15] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, I want to use it to wake me up in the middle of the night (in conjunction with sound).
[19:15] <YeTr2> slon2000ru: intel, marvel, and realtek cards
[19:15] <Beefcaked> Is xchat better than pidgin?
[19:15] <b3rz3rk3r> slon2000ru, and nvidia too
[19:16] <grawity> Beefcaked: For IRC, yes.
[19:16] <SockPants> any help about getting the cube to work?
[19:16] <sharperguy> Beefcaked, For irc, ye... too late
[19:16] <slon2000ru> YeTr2: ok senku very much i bye tomorrow one from this list
[19:16] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, whats up?
[19:16] <sgallagh> YeTr2: 100Mbps isn't fast enough to stream a 1080p@60Hz video, even compressed.
[19:16] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, thats sound great!
[19:16] <ohir> !better|Beefcaked
[19:16] <sgallagh> Especially not if there's other traffic on your network
[19:16] <slon2000ru> b3rz3rk3r: this mb withoun nvidia chip
[19:16] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: i've got compiz working all the way up to CCSM and enabled Desktop Cube, but nothing happens when i press ctrl+alt+down
[19:16] <Beefcaked> do you guys know any alternatives to pidgin? its unable to login to my yahoo account
[19:16] <grawity> Beefcaked: Empathy
[19:17] <grawity> Beefcaked: Also, you need to update Pidgin.
[19:17] <agoole> SockPants: did you check to make sure those shortcut keys were enabled ?
[19:17] <__theIdiotBox> Beefcaked, thats pretty know issue, just google to fix that...
[19:17] <grawity> Beefcaked: Yahoo has kinda locked out old versions.
[19:17] <YeTr2> sgallagh: depends on the codec and how your network is set up.
[19:17] <Beefcaked> oh okay, i see
[19:17] <__theIdiotBox> Beefcaked, if you can
[19:17] <slon2000ru> ok senku people for help
[19:17] <SockPants> agoole: yeah i tried to edit them and let it capture the same shortcut again and that worked but then when i pressed it nothing happens
[19:17] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, if you are wanting to rotate the cube you should be holding Ctrl+ Alt and clicking left mouse while dragging
[19:17] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, I take it you can't think of any way for it to be done then?
[19:17] <__theIdiotBox> Beefcaked, sorry....do let me know if you still have issues...
[19:17] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: i havent seen a cube at all
[19:17] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, sounds like your drivers arent being used then
[19:17] <sgallagh> YeTr2: I enjoy my gigabit household :)
[19:18] <Beefcaked> does update manager update pidgin automatically?
[19:18] <agoole> SockPants: tried holding alt+ctrl and dragging the mouse ? what if you click on another desktop ?
[19:18] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, have you been to Appearance and changed your effects to "extra" ?
[19:18] <Beefcaked> im new to linux and i have no idea how to install or update stuf
[19:18] <SockPants> agoole: that works, but theres only 2 sides
[19:18] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: yes
[19:18] <YeTr2> sgallagh: I don't have the authority in my household to rip out the cat3 and replace it with cat6 .
[19:18] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, have you made 4 desktops?
[19:18] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, i dint say that...but as I've never come across something like this..hence was quite surprised to know that...but I'm sure there has to be some way...did you google, btw?
[19:18] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: uhhhhhhh noooo :P
[19:18] <SockPants> how do i dot hat
[19:18] <SockPants> *do that
[19:18] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, that will help :p
[19:18] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, err not really i was about too..
[19:19] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, see your current two? right click and make it "4"
[19:19] <moymoy> Beefcaked: as an alternative, you can either use Kopete or Psi.. Empathy is a good choice too
[19:19] <ElDuderino> Ben64: hey thanks a lot, it worked :D
[19:19] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, I'm mostly getting white screen errors
[19:19] <agoole> SockPants: if you see the effects, its working, you just need to add more desktops
[19:19] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: something weird just happened
[19:19] <Ben64> ElDuderino: no prob, glad it did
[19:19] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, like what? can you be more specific
[19:19] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, ?
[19:19] <proq> what terminal command can I use to get the machine name/hardware stats to uniquely identify a machine?
[19:19] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: the screen space went a bit smaller and a black border appeared, and i can't click anything. uhh
[19:19] <proq> such as "dell xps one"
[19:19] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, on google peopoe asking about their screen going white
[19:20] <grawity> proq: I am just wondering why do you need that.
[19:20] <sharperguy> *people
[19:20] <pshr_> pRoFILER,  lshw
[19:20] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, ohhh...
[19:20] <SockPants> but i can move the cursor outside the screen area
[19:20] <sgallagh> YeTr2: I built my house. Figured I'd wire it properly from the get-go.
[19:20] <moymoy> proq: have you tried lshw?
[19:20] <pshr_> proq, lshw
[19:20] <SockPants> this happened when i reduced the desktop columns from 2 to 1
[19:20]  * Beefcaked test
[19:20] <ElDuderino> yep thanks again :D
[19:20] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, then you tried some to get that thing done and you're also facing the same problem as others, right?
[19:21] <YeTr2> sgallagh: I helped wire the house.. this is back in... '97 ?
[19:21] <proq> ah, thanks :)
[19:21] <ElDuderino> also, where can i edit the start up items?
[19:21] <SockPants> hmm
[19:21] <SockPants> the cursor and where it actually clicks arent the same point
[19:21] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, status report?
[19:21] <SockPants> something's weird
[19:21] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, try logout and in again
[19:22] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, No it's just the google keywords aren't very effective because when I google "ubuntu white screen flash" or whatever I get people asking about errors where the screen goes white
[19:22] <nikolaj_basher> When does ubuntu 9.10 arive
[19:22] <Ben64> !karmic
[19:23] <Michalxo> koala! :)
[19:23] <admin1> list
[19:23] <gizmobay> I use Ark for compressed files. I received a rar from someone. The rar had some empty directries in the package. When I extracted with Ark, it didn't extract the empty directories. Am I missing a setting?
[19:23] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r:  i logged back in again, and now the desktop is still on a smaller screen area surrounded by a black border.
[19:23] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, you are not able to pinpoint the search to the problem you're facing ....got it...
[19:24] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, yeah
[19:24] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, what did you do man? :p
[19:24] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, did you try posting that problem in forums, say ubuntuforums.org?
[19:24] <phague> evening
[19:24] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, I was about to try that next
[19:25] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r:  lol no clue it happened when i reduced the desktops cols to 1 from 2, so i could make 1 col 4 rows
[19:25] <proq> grawity: because my build system needs to set different config files on different hardware
[19:25] <SockPants> i'll restart and see if that helps
[19:25] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, does it go away if you turn effects off?
[19:25] <SockPants> lets see
[19:25] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, i guess that would be better option., as here people will see what you write only the moment you write and then it goes out......
[19:26] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, yeah
[19:26] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, hey sock u got that backwards btw..
[19:26] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, it should be the other way round
[19:26] <lukus> hi - i have a problem connecting to a network filter
[19:26] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: huh?
[19:26] <SockPants> uh
[19:26] <SockPants> yeah
[19:26] <SockPants> indeed
[19:26] <FloodBot2> SockPants: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, change rows and columns
[19:26] <lukus> I've getting a message can't connect .. cups-missing-filter
[19:26] <lukus> *i'm
[19:27] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, better?
[19:27] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, i more thing...if you get that thing done _SOMEHOW_ try putting some blog on that if you have time...that would be really nice for others facing that kinda thing....:-) ..any thoughts?
[19:27] <lukus> does anyone know if this is a common problem?
[19:27] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: effects off fixed it
[19:27] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, Yeah I don't have a blog but that's actually a good idea
[19:27] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, and swapping your rows/columns done?
[19:28] <Spike1506> !desktop effects
[19:28] <Spike1506> !desktopeffects
[19:28] <b3rz3rk3r> fail ubottu
[19:28] <b3rz3rk3r> :p
[19:28] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, anyways you get one in a couple of mins ....
[19:28] <Ben64> !Compiz
[19:28] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, you get what?
[19:28] <ubuntu> hi all - having serious trouble installing, can anyone help?
[19:28] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, how we doing man?
[19:28] <phague> anyone running on a mac here?
[19:29] <phague> specifically, a macbook
[19:29] <guntbert> !anyone | phague
[19:29] <__theIdiotBox> sharperguy, off-topic...i was talking about getting a personal blog...
[19:29] <ubuntu> partitioned with paragon, ubuntu gives error 'no root partition defined'
[19:29] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: it works again, i re-enabled effects, i have 4 desktops, the cube works, though i have to re-configure compiz but thats ok :D
[19:29] <cryptops1> Does anyone here know how I can use the special buttons on my keyboard (its a thinkpad), i.e the sound off, sound up, sound down, and "thinkvantage" buttons?
[19:29] <SockPants> thanks :)
[19:30] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, np man, glad to help.. enjoy!
[19:30] <ubuntu> installing the 'easy way' ubuntu took only 2.5 gigs & I couldn't do anything - update, install eclipse, nada
[19:30] <__theIdiotBox> cryptops1, can you put details about your h/w? brand of desk/notebook
[19:30] <sharperguy> __theIdiotBox, Ah ok yeah I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem
[19:30] <cryptops1> __theIdiotBox: lenovo thinkpad w500 (aka t61)
[19:30] <musictoto> hi guys. i'm lookin to use the new notifier in ubuntu in one of my self-made C programs. should i use the same approach as with libnotify, or is it a different approach? can you give me a documentation website or something? thanks
[19:30] <cryptops1> __theIdiotBox: I'm not seeing an acpi event or my xbindkeys definition working
[19:31] <__theIdiotBox> cryptops1, i assume you're on jaunty, right?
[19:31] <mike3> so odd issue guys... When my system first turns on it's a few hours behind then it automatically adjusts a few hours a head. ANyone seen this????????
[19:31] <phague> I'm worried about heat issues on my macbookpro4,1 under ubuntu and want to be able to keep an eye on things
[19:31] <KB1JWQ> phague: Try lmsensors.
[19:31] <SnakDoc> anyone know if ssh logs traffic that is forwarded and can you force it to record this kind of information ?
[19:32] <phague> KB1JWQ: That in the normal repositories?
[19:32] <__theIdiotBox> mike3, assuming you're connected to net let your sync your sys clock with the network clock...that might help...
[19:32] <grawity> SnakDoc: 1) No, it doesn't. 2a) Only if you patch sshd, 2b) but why the hell do you need that?
[19:32] <KB1JWQ> phague: Try it and see?
[19:33] <SnakDoc> was just wondering if it was possible
[19:33] <fahadsadah> Two questions, guys.
[19:33] <mike3> __theIdiotBox: sorry?
[19:33] <__theIdiotBox> mike3, ...let your sys sync the clock....
[19:33] <mike3> __theIdiotBox: how with what? NTP?
[19:33] <fahadsadah> How do I clear the "apt-get autoremove" list?
[19:33] <__theIdiotBox> mike3, yep...did you try that?
[19:33] <phague> KB1JWQ: There is wmsensors which looks like a graphical front end for it, but no lmsensors
[19:33] <fahadsadah> Removed something depended on by a metapackage.
[19:34] <mike3> __theIdiotBox: no, but whatever time it updates to, can I have it write it back to the CMOS so they both stay consistent?
[19:34] <guntbert> cryptops1: no help from me - only info: on my T60 the volume keys work fine, thinkvantage does nothing
[19:34] <Belloto> anyone knows howto change the bluetooth name of my PC (i.e. the name my telephone sees when searching for bluetooth devices) ... is there a way to change it NOT changing the computer host name?
[19:35] <guntbert> Belloto: right click on the bluetooth icon, preferences, friendly name
[19:35] <__theIdiotBox> mike3, i guess there is some way to make the cmos to use the realtime clock as the underlying clock, may be you have to google on that..does that make sense?
[19:35] <Belloto> guntbert: sorry, I forgot to mention: I have no graphical interface, just command line
[19:36] <fahadsadah> mike3: On reboot, the system clock (software) is synced with the CMOS clock (hardware).
[19:36] <guntbert> Belloto: then I don't know, sorry
[19:36] <mike3> __theIdiotBox: My concern is just having them sync together so when daylight savings occurs.
[19:36] <Belloto> I installed bluez-utils package
[19:36] <cryptops1> Is there a way I can get my kernel to compile using multiple cores?
[19:36] <mike3> fahadsadah: oh yah? I think i set somehweare Hardward-CLK=NO
[19:36] <mike3> or something
[19:36] <ipatrol> What's the name of the program th at decrypt's files and is commonly called "Decrypt file"?
[19:36] <fahadsadah> mike3: Well, unset it.
[19:37] <mike3> fahadsadah: I'm hoping it doesn't screw something up. :)
[19:37] <cryptops1> ipatrol: a brute forcer?
[19:37] <ipatrol> What's the bash name?
[19:37] <guntbert> Belloto: are you on ubuntu server?
[19:37] <ipatrol> Ubuntu lost it
[19:37] <rakesh> hi xiteny
[19:37] <b3rz3rk3r> sharperguy, replied on forums
[19:37] <Pici> ipatrol: gpg?
[19:37] <mike3> fahadsadah: I have mythtv launching a script to write the next wakeup call to the CMOS RTC clock.
[19:37] <mike3> i'll have to try tonight
[19:37] <mike3> brb
[19:37] <ipatrol> I can't thread it though gpg
[19:38] <fahadsadah> cryptops1: -j Number-of-cores-here
[19:38] <fahadsadah> Pass that to gcc.
[19:38] <ipatrol> It was a file that in menus showed as "Decrypt file"
[19:38] <fahadsadah> Holds true for all compiles.
[19:38] <Pici> ipatrol: 'it'?
[19:38] <Belloto> yes guntbert, ubuntu server
[19:38] <Belloto> 8:04
[19:38] <ipatrol> It appeard to be its own program
[19:38] <sharperguy> b3rz3rk3r, thansk
[19:38] <guntbert> Belloto: then you might have better luck in #ubuntu-server
[19:39] <fahadsadah> cryptops1: One second.
[19:39] <fahadsadah> There's a way to make that default.
[19:39] <Belloto> thanks guntbert
[19:39] <b3rz3rk3r> sharperguy, hope thats what you were looking for.. works great for me
[19:39] <ubuntu> ok, no help with installation and partitions then? ubuntu not recognizing the partition, 'no root system defined' & how to solve this??
[19:39] <guntbert> Belloto: np
[19:39] <sharperguy> b3rz3rk3r, I replied asking if it wakes up the screen from power saving mode
[19:39] <llutz> Belloto: check /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[19:39] <sharperguy> b3rz3rk3r, But I'm installing it anyway
[19:39] <Belloto> anyone knows howto change the bluetooth device name of my server from command line? (i.e. the name my telephone sees when searching for bluetooth devices) ... is there a way to change it NOT changing the computer host name?
[19:40] <Belloto> sorry  :)
[19:40] <fahadsadah> cryptops1: Add it to your CFLAGS
[19:40] <Belloto> wrong channel
[19:40] <llutz> Belloto: check /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[19:40] <b3rz3rk3r> sharperguy, yes it will, im running a laptop by my bed as an alarmclock/remote terminal/book/movie screen
[19:40] <fahadsadah> Belloto: See if bluez has a config file.
[19:40] <sharperguy> b3rz3rk3r, yay!
[19:40] <Belloto> thanks guys, gonna check
[19:42] <Belloto> well, there is not main.conf, but there is a hcid.conf file, which contains these lines:
[19:43] <Belloto>         # Local device name            #   %d - device id         #   %h - host name
[19:43] <Belloto>         name "%h-%d";
[19:43] <ipatrol> You know the encrypt file option on the right-click menu?
[19:44] <llutz> Belloto: hcid.conf is fine, "name" ist what you need to change
[19:44] <openess> after looking deep within the world wide web I have discovered the best bet to getting the internal mic of an aao (netbook) working in skype (running jaunty) is to set "sound in" to "HDA Intel (hw:intel,0)" in skype, but that's not in my list.. any idéas on how to ad it? any package I need to download?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:46] <ipatrol> Does anyone have a public key????
[19:46] <grawity> ipatrol: We know that option, what is your actual question?
[19:46] <ipatrol> It's a strange bug
[19:46] <grawity> ipatrol: The option uses GnuPG (gpg) for encryption.
[19:46] <mskut> guntberg: still here?
[19:47] <ipatrol> Normally if you open a .pgp file, it automatically decrypts to the directory, that stopped happening
[19:47] <grawity> What happens now?
[19:47] <ipatrol> Nothing
[19:47] <jerknextdoor> i decided to try and change my theme to 9.04.  laptop got super slow so i restarted X and now ubuntu seems to have lost some preferences?
[19:47] <ipatrol> It inquiers to Synaptic trying to find something that will open it
[19:49] <ipatrol> So what do I do?
[19:49] <grawity> ipatrol: Try installing 'seahorse'
[19:49] <ipatrol> It's installed
[19:49] <ipatrol> Reinstall?
[19:49] <grawity> Might help.
[19:49] <Beefcaked> can anyone help me update pidgin?
[19:49] <grawity> Beefcaked: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[19:49] <grawity> Beefcaked: Instructions there.
[19:49] <Beefcaked> thanks
[19:50] <Belloto> thanks llutz, thanks guys
[19:51] <jerknextdoor> not only did it break normal ubuntu preferences but it also seems to have broken firefox stuff too
[19:51] <grawity> ipatrol: By the way, if you still can't get it working, there's still the 'gpg' command on Terminal.
[19:51] <ipatrol> I reinstalled seahorse-plugins, restarting
[19:51] <bl00z> sup
[19:52] <grawity> ipatrol: Restart should not be needed.
[19:52] <bl00z> where can I found 915resolution for 9.04 ?
[19:52] <grawity> ipatrol: At most, logout/login.
[19:52] <ipatrol> I only have one user
[19:53] <bl00z> I'm trying to use dual monitor on 9.04 but isnot working
[19:54] <bl00z> ??
[19:55] <b3rz3rk3r> wow.. quiet in #ubuntu?
[19:55] <b3rz3rk3r> really?
[19:55] <bostux> very
[19:55] <dumont> if I wanted to install apache, php and mysql on my server should i install them separately on ubuntu? i'm on a server edition
[19:56] <b3rz3rk3r> dumont, install LAMP
[19:56] <dumont> linux apache mysql php? :D
[19:56] <ipatrol> I followed the directions at http://ubuntufs.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/encryptingdecrypting-with-gnome/ and it still isn't working
[19:56] <b3rz3rk3r> dumont, yes, exactly
[19:58] <lolek> hi there
[19:58] <musictoto> hi guys. i'm lookin to use the new notifier in ubuntu in one of my self-made C programs. should i use the same approach as with libnotify, or is it a different approach? can you give me a documentation website or something? thanks
[19:58] <Beefcaked> when i upgraded this laptop to ubuntu from vista my wireless card seems to have 'weakened'
[19:58] <grawity> musictoto: I think calling libnotify is the proper way.
[19:58] <dumont> is there a specific LAMP package I have to choose to install
[19:58] <wormi> salut ;o
[19:58] <lolek> i'm trying to get working ubuntu 9.04 + blueman + headset, without any success .. well i can pair it with lappie, but.. taht's all i cannot pick it up so it can be sound source... ;/
[19:58] <b3rz3rk3r> !lamp | dumont
[19:58] <guntbert> Belloto: did you get your bluetooth setting right?
[19:59] <musictoto> grawity: thanks
[19:59] <atichu> erf  i go to FRland
[19:59] <lycan> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[19:59] <sebsebseb> !es |  lycan
[20:00] <korek> hello
[20:00] <lycan> tengo problemas con algunos dispositivos de mi laptop que no son compatibles con ubuntu
[20:00] <b3rz3rk3r> !es | lycan
[20:01] <xiong> i want a font manager but i seem to be out of luck
[20:02] <Belloto> llutz, and do you know what line should I change in hcid.conf to set my ubuntu hidden? (so that it wont be visible when other bluetooth device is searching for nearby devices)
[20:02] <maheshjr2000> hi guys how do I get mtp support for ubuntu 8.10?
[20:02] <maheshjr2000> should I just use mtfps?
[20:02] <maheshjr2000> mtpfs
[20:03] <b3rz3rk3r> xiong, System -> Prefs->Appearance->Fonts
[20:03] <outlier> I wonder if somebody could throw me a clue.  A whole raft of apps have stopped working - firefox, gnome terminal, thunderbird plus a few others I'm not sure of off hand.  Starting one creates a process like you'd expect, but no windows open up, and no errors appear in the log.  I'm using Hardy.  Any ideas?
[20:03] <lycan> como entro al chat en español?
[20:03] <b3rz3rk3r> !es | lycan
[20:03] <outlier> Nautilus is one of the bad apps, btw.
[20:04] <maheshjr2000> outlier I was about to suggest terminal but that wont work XD so go into I think its alt f3 or f4 or something like that
[20:04] <maheshjr2000> and then try running firefox
[20:04] <maheshjr2000> see what it gives you
[20:04] <xiong> b3rz3rk3r, i saw that -- it doesn't have any *management* tools -- i want to be able to activate and deactivate fonts, preferably by set -- the same sort of functionality you get from Adobe Type Manager (and Adobe Type Reunion)
[20:04] <outlier> maheshjr2000 I can run xterm and xfce terminal just fine.
[20:04] <rxcjack> Hi, is there anyone here available to help me figure out an issue?
[20:04] <rxcjack> Well, I upgraded to Karmic last night. Obviously using Firefox 3.5.2 now. It seems that everything on Facebook has extra padding around it. It's not like that on 3.5.2 on Windows either.
[20:04] <b3rz3rk3r> Alt+f2 maheshjr2000
[20:05] <maheshjr2000> so try runnning firefox through xterm
[20:05] <maheshjr2000> then tell us what it gives you
[20:05] <rxcjack> xterm?
[20:05] <b3rz3rk3r> xiong, ah, in that case i sont know of one im afraid :(
[20:05] <outlier> I tried that.  I get no errors, but no window opens either.  ps -ax shows it running, but nothing appears on screen.
[20:05] <kryptos> does anyone know if there is a channel for questions about getting World of Warcraft playable on Ubuntu?
[20:06] <maheshjr2000> hmm
[20:06] <maheshjr2000> well gnome is broken then
[20:06] <b3rz3rk3r> kryptos, check out the appdb on WINEHQ
[20:06] <ubuntu_904> ok i got ubuntu and windows.. the speaker sound in windows is much higher than in ubuntu any reasons y ??
[20:06] <outlier> The odd man out is gnome terminal - the window opens, but no text appears.  Other terminal programs seem normal.
[20:06] <ubuntu_904> onlky when i turn it loud it works properly
[20:06] <outlier> Seems so
[20:06] <gcleric> outlier: did you recently change the host name?
[20:06] <outlier> nope
[20:07] <outlier> Got a new router though, but the host name and IP address is unchanged.
[20:07] <b3rz3rk3r> ubuntu_904, have you opened your sound preferences and enabled and turned up all channels?
[20:07] <kryptos> I've done that b3rz3rk3r I'm just having problems with my ATI card and WoW
[20:07] <rxcjack> maheshjr2000, I did "sudo xterm firefox" and got the same issue.
[20:08] <jerknextdoor> alright 9.04 still doesn't remember any of my prefernces after a theme change problem and it wont launch some apps either
[20:08] <b3rz3rk3r> kryptos, ATi are known to provide poor support for their products in general, but esp when it comes to linux im afraid :(
[20:08] <TIctoon> Hello peoples!
[20:08] <ubuntu_904> b3rz3rk3r: how
[20:08] <lycan> hola
[20:08] <ubuntu_904> i went in pref i get master pic etc
[20:08] <kotarel> Hi, general question, ubuntu alternative install command line system install uses same ram as full graphical install after boot, why is that, is x11 loaded in ram anyways in console only?
[20:08] <b3rz3rk3r> ubuntu_904, see the speaker icon in the top right? right click it
[20:09] <b3rz3rk3r> !es | lycan
[20:09] <gcleric> outlier: sorry to ask this if you already stated it.  what was the last thing that changed before this happened?
[20:09] <b3rz3rk3r> wtf, did ubottu die?
[20:09] <thowland> lycan: por favor, entre "/join #ubuntu-es" para espanol
[20:09] <ubuntu_904> yes i did tht b3rz3rk3r
[20:09] <kryptos> b3rz3rk3r: I have read that ;( it mentions something about logging into wow and a toon which creates a config.wtf file that I can then switch over to opengl but the login page is so garbled I can't even log in ;(
[20:09] <mortuis99> im wanting to install ubuntu server and am wondering if i can also install a gui.  im not fermilier with commandline but i an ok qith the gui
[20:09] <ubuntu_904> i went to preference
[20:09] <mortuis99> is this doable?
[20:10] <outlier> not really sure - probably did system update - just the normal maintenance stuff.  Possibly it has to do with pulseaudio - I had problems with it, so I switched back to using Alsa.  But that was weeks ago.
[20:10] <maheshjr2000> ok im using mtpfs and it says transport endpoint is not connected
[20:10] <kotarel> Hi, general question, ubuntu alternative install command line system install uses same ram as full graphical install after boot, why is that, is x11 loaded in ram anyways in console only?
[20:10] <ubuntu_904> my pcm n master is high
[20:10] <Spike1506> !audio
[20:11] <b3rz3rk3r> kryptos, i dont use ATi so i cant help with that im afraid.. there is always dual boots and virtual environs if you cant get it to work
[20:11] <guntbert> mortuis99: if you want a GUI and there is not going to *very* heavy load: stcik to desktop for now - to get your feet wet
[20:11] <ipatrol> I reinstalled seahorse, fail
[20:11] <guntbert> *to be
[20:11] <Pici> kotarel: The alternate install installs the same software as the regular desktop install. So it installs X as well.
[20:11] <mortuis99> i AM using desktop and wanna set up a server for my house
[20:12] <kotarel> @pici so if i want a minimal install i should go with ubuntu-server?
[20:12] <TIctoon> has anyone used dvdauthor before?>
[20:12] <outlier> If my problem is some gnome thing, is there a way to gracefully get gnome off my system?
[20:12] <gcleric> outlier: have you tried logging in to the system as a differnet user?
[20:12] <b3rz3rk3r> mortuis99, just install normal ubuntu then add the server packs if you want a gui
[20:12] <ipatrol> So what do I do to get that decrypt option back
[20:12] <moymoy> kotarel: if you want a minimum instal, go with the minimum install disc
[20:12] <Pici> kotarel: Or ubuntu-minimal, but that really is lacking in default packages.
[20:12] <kryptos> b3rz3rk3r: alright well thanks anyways
[20:12] <Beefcakes> even ubuntu seems so hard to use for someone coming from the windows world +S
[20:12] <outlier> gcleric - no, I haven't done that.  I'll have to create a user and try that.
[20:12] <Michalxo> Beefcaked, well.. have you read any manuals?
[20:13] <moymoy> outlier: would you like to just switch to something that's not gnome?
[20:13] <guntbert> mortuis99: still you can do it with desktop, but as for server, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html before installing
[20:13] <gcleric> outlier: that would narrow the issue to your profile/home dir.
[20:13] <b3rz3rk3r> Beefcaked, naturally, if you have been forced to use Windows all your life, anything else will be "hard" as yo uahve to unlearn everything you know about computers
[20:13] <moymoy> !minimum
[20:13] <outlier> moymoy - wouldn't bother me to switch.  I'm using fluxbox right now since nautilus was borked.
[20:14] <mortuis99> guntbert thanks reading now
[20:14] <gcleric> outlier: do you know how to create a new user from the command line?
[20:14] <Pici> !minimal
[20:14] <Beefcakes> Michalxo; its just that im not accustomed to reading manuals heh, everything just works as it should rom where i come
[20:14] <outlier> gcleric not off hand, but I have the man page up now.
[20:14] <lolek> i'm trying to get working ubuntu 9.04 + blueman + headset, without any success .. well i can pair it with lappie, but.. taht's all i cannot pick it up so it can be sound source... ;/
[20:14] <Michalxo> Beefcaked, then enjoy the learning process! :)
[20:14] <gustavoo> hellooooooooo
[20:14] <moymoy> outlier: nice.. i'm using pekwm as an xsession and it's working out great
[20:14] <gustavoo> does someone here uses plesk?
[20:14] <TIctoon> does anyone have experience with dvdauthor?
[20:14] <gcleric> outlier: sudo adduser
[20:15] <outlier> gcleric thanks
[20:15] <gustavoo> does someone here uses plesk to admin several domains?
[20:15] <moymoy> !ask | gustavoo
[20:15] <guntbert> mortuis99: and then there is #ubuntu-server (if not for absolute beginners :-))
[20:16] <TIctoon> How do I use the submux tool in dvdauthor? bash cant find it
[20:16] <TTNK> hello, i need to start in console mode, can somebody help me please? i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and the X isnt working anymore
[20:16] <outlier> gcleric I'll have to log out now to switch.  brb (hopefully).
[20:16] <mortuis99> i have used ubuntu desktop for a while
[20:16] <guntbert> gustavoo: I don't think that your question is ubuntu support related
[20:16] <thowland> TTNK: can you type ctrl-alt-1 and get a login screen?
[20:16] <himuraken> Hi group. I have an ubuntu server running samba and a share that I want to be rw for everyone/anyone
[20:17] <moymoy> TTNK: what video card do you use?
[20:17] <ubuntistas> anyone how to use mashup 5.4?
[20:17] <himuraken> From any workgroup xp box that works fine, but domain joined machines cant seem to browse to  \\sambaserver  withwout prompting for credentials.
[20:17] <m_law> hi could anyone tell me why I can't get the permissions for user when i mount my hard disk
[20:17] <TTNK> thowland no, i already tried that
[20:17] <thowland> TTNK: or ctrl-alt-F1, sorry
[20:17] <ubuntistas> only one mashup is shown in preferences
[20:17] <wesley_> hello, is there a front end for the avg 8.5 that installs to ubuntu
[20:17] <ubuntistas> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mashup?content=86452
[20:17] <b3rz3rk3r> wesley_, i dont think avg works on linux does it?
[20:17] <Belloto> do you know what line should I change in hcid.conf to set my ubuntu hidden? (so that it wont be visible when other bluetooth device is searching for nearby devices)
[20:17] <TTNK> moymoy and dont remember, thats why i need to boot in console mode so i can see what chip is in it and try to google a solution
[20:18] <moymoy> TTNK: he's not asking if you can reach a graphical login screen
[20:18] <mothas> gcleric - back.  Seems to have done the trick, though it will take a few minutes to know for sure.
[20:18] <m_law> wesley_: u wouldn't need an antivirus on linux
[20:18] <moymoy> TTNK: you don't get a console when you ctrl+alt+F1?
[20:18] <wesley_> berzerker, yes quite well. but currently only via terminal
[20:18] <firecrotch> m_law: that's not necessarily true
[20:18] <TTNK> moymoy no i dont, the screen and all the computer freezes
[20:18] <wesley_> i know there is a gui for it, but now i cant find where it is
[20:18] <gcleric> mothas: ok... then there is a config in your old home dir that is causing the issue.
[20:18] <gustavoo> guntbert no its not, but its the only place i hope i can get an answer
[20:19] <TIctoon> How do I use the submux tool in dvdauthor? bash cant find it
[20:19] <wesley_> thats true i dont need an antivirus, but my uncle still wants one
[20:19] <thowland> TTNK: try booting into single user mode - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[20:19] <xiong> one way or another, i want to get all these foreign language fonts out -- what can i do?
[20:19] <mothas> gcleric - I notice the new user isn't using the fancy compiz stuff.  I wonder if that's the culprit.
[20:19] <moymoy> TTNK: it's probably not a good idea to upgrade so far between releases like that.. most people here probably do a fresh install for every version
[20:19] <m_law> firecrotch: i would argue that for the majority of linux users it is... otherwise why would it be such a selling point!
[20:19] <guntbert> !ot | gustavoo
[20:19] <wesley_> !avg
[20:19] <TIctoon> wesley: try searching synaptic, there are other antivirus programs ther
[20:20] <gcleric> mothas: kick the tires and light the fires...give it a spin and see,
[20:20] <gustavoo> whatever.
[20:20] <wesley_> with a gui?
[20:20] <ipatrol> I just sent in a bug
[20:20] <m_law> hi could anyone tell me why I can't get the permissions for user when i mount my hard disk
[20:20] <TTNK> moymoy i know but dont you think its mmm pretty stupid to put a button for an upgrade if it doesnt work? :S
[20:20] <wesley_> clamav isnt a complete option via synaptic
[20:20] <moymoy> TTNK: yeah, that's pretty stupid
[20:20] <b3rz3rk3r> wesley_, Clam is very popular, but its also CLI only right now. I think there might be frontends from 3rd parties for it tho
[20:20] <TTNK> thowland thanks, ill take a look of that
[20:20] <TIctoon> your pushing it :P see if you can look through The Ubuntu Pocket Guide, it'll tell you how to install a firewall and antivirus, with a gui
[20:21] <moymoy> TTNK: i'm gonna try an upgrade anyway.. don't like reinstalling all my crap
[20:21] <ipatrol> Synaptic has virus scanner
[20:21] <TTNK> moymoy i have upgraded about 3 or 4 computers this way and nothing wrong happened
[20:21] <mothas> gcleric - thanks for the help.  I guess something that got updated recently became incompatible with some non-standard thing I was running.
[20:21] <wesley_> what i mean is though synaptic i cant seem to get the entire entitity, things like clamd dont seem to be availabale
[20:21] <TIctoon> How do I use the submux tool in dvdauthor? bash cant find it
[20:21] <gcleric> mothas: no worries.  glad to have helped. =)
[20:21] <moymoy> TTNK: are you able to SSH into the computer?
[20:21] <gustavoo> :)
[20:21] <b3rz3rk3r> wesley_, tried from CLI "sudo apt-get install clamav"
[20:22] <b3rz3rk3r> ?
[20:22] <TTNK> moymoy well iknow i can reinstall cause i have my /home on a separate partition, but thats not good, it takes time
[20:22] <m_law> wesley_: if you go to http://allmyapps.com/ubuntu-9.04/desktop/system/utilities/1 there is an application you can download that works as a GUI for clam
[20:22] <wesley_> so do i not need clamd, is that a part of clamav?
[20:22] <moymoy> TTNK: how fast is your internet? you can do a minimum install... and then choose all the packages you want to install
[20:23] <GuidMorrow> how do I replace a file that I can't get permission for?!
[20:23] <moymoy> TTNK: the iso for minimum install is like 30 MB or something
[20:23] <b3rz3rk3r> wesley_, i dont think its needed. you can just clam -R which would do the same thing?
[20:23] <TTNK> havent tried that moymoy, i dont want to break the screen i think something about the hor refresh rate is the wrong, i dont want to make it worse
[20:23] <Hydrid> the ip information that i see is the ip i have from my modem router and back ? or its the internet ip?? Do i have to open port 21 in my modem router so i can ftp from internet to my computer?
[20:23] <mothas> One last thing - I'm still using Hardy, and the "ain't broke, don't fix" seems no longer to apply.  What's recommended for good stable desktop these days on a mid-high workstation (raid, multi-monitor, etc)?  Jaunty?
[20:23] <gcleric> mothas: if you keep your new user as the default I would add it to the /etc/sudoers config.
[20:23] <Pici> t/22
[20:24] <mothas> gcleric: I will, as well as a bunch of other groups it will need access to.
[20:24] <b3rz3rk3r> Hydrid, you have to forward TCP/UDP 21 to the IP's that will need it, yes
[20:24] <TTNK> its fast, imin the middle of an huarane hehehehe, well i'll try to boot on single mode as thowland told me
[20:24] <gcleric> mothas: excellent. =)
[20:24] <Hydrid> b3rz3rk3r:  ok so i log in my router and enable it
[20:25] <m_law> anyone good at editing fstab here
[20:25] <b3rz3rk3r> Hydrid, yes sir, just use the web interface and lg in as admin and forward to your hearts content
[20:25] <mothas> gcleric: I guess it's time to look at upgrading from Hardy pretty soon.
[20:25] <wesley_> ok i am downloading everything neccessary for clamav, cross you digital fingers, LOL
[20:26] <gcleric> mothas: jaunty is very nice...
[20:26] <Hydrid> b3rz3rk3r:  you told me to forward it to the ips i need.so i must know the ips from my friends computers??
[20:26] <mskut> where can I get drivers for my nvidia 7600 go?
[20:26] <SockPants> hi again
[20:27] <b3rz3rk3r> Hydrid, u lost me, wtf are you trying to do? lol
[20:27] <Hydrid> :P
[20:27] <SockPants> is there any way i can backup my compiz settings, because somehow the effects just turned off again and whenever that happens i have te re-configure everything
[20:27] <b3rz3rk3r> Hydrid, are you running an ftp server from your house and trying to get access to it from the net?
[20:27] <Hydrid> yes
[20:27] <Hydrid> vsftpd
[20:27] <b3rz3rk3r> Hydrid, ok, then yeah, just do as i said before
[20:27] <mothas> gcleric:  I'll take that under advisement.  I have to admit I'm nervous about it; upgrading *to* Hardy was a pain - pulseaudio, compiz, etc.
[20:27] <gcleric> SockPants: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=706163
[20:28] <Hydrid> b3rz3rk3r: oooook :)
[20:28] <b3rz3rk3r> SockPants, not that i know, but if you find out let me know yeah ?
[20:28] <rodimus> can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/m52dd9fea
[20:28] <SockPants> b3rz3rk3r: sure
[20:28] <mothas> gcleric: they changed a lot of basic things with networking and security too.
[20:28] <GuidMorrow> I can't copy anything into the /etc folder at all!!
[20:28] <GuidMorrow> wtf?!
[20:29] <gcleric> mothas: you could image your system before upgrading.  here's a little howto I wrote. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581680
[20:29] <jerknextdoor> GuidMorrow: are you using the gui or the commandline?
[20:29] <mothas> gcleric - thanks.
[20:29] <Pici> GuidMorrow: Firstly, mind your language, secondly, thats because your user doesn't have any rights to /etc, as that is the place for system files.
[20:29] <Pici> GuidMorrow: Use sudo if you need to be touching stuff in that directory.
[20:29] <korek> SockPants did you tried to copy compiz folder from your home?
[20:30] <mothas> gcleric - nice howto.
[20:31] <gcleric> mothas: thanks.
[20:31] <Michalxo> gcleric, your favorite movie? :)
[20:31] <ipatrol> Look at http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9159/captureub the file clicked is a .pgp file
[20:32] <TTNK> thowland i tried to start in single mode as the instructionson the page says, but it keeps on trying to boot normally, it tries to start gdm, any ideas?
[20:32] <gcleric> Michalxo: the bridges of madson county. =P
[20:32] <Michalxo> raelly? I thoght Equilibrium :))
[20:32] <Pici> !offtopic | Michalxo gcleric
[20:32] <gcleric> Michalxo: you are correct...just playing.
[20:33] <Zer0xUbU> hello guys can you suggest me a good Gtk+ book? sorry for my english it's not my first language!
[20:33] <Michalxo> sorry Pici, I just saw there a few empty lines on my IRC :)  gcleric :))
[20:33] <gcleric> Pici: chill he's refering to my nick.
[20:34] <SockPants> about compiz, how can i set a key combo for 'show desktop'?
[20:34] <jk__> #ubuntu-nl
[20:34] <Orbixx> I cannot seem to get any NX server to run and accept connections properly.
[20:34] <Michalxo> Zer0xUbU, google gtk+ tutorial is not enough? :-/
[20:34] <thowland> TTNK: sorry, no idea- linux single is built in, (it should stop halfway thru booting), so I'd suggest trying it again- or google for GRUB options
[20:35] <Voxxy> Hey mates, anyone have an inkling as to why 9.0.4 is freezing up on me.  When I open a terminal, the marquee flashes clear, not black, and I can't seem to open any menues
[20:35] <Michalxo> SockPants, isn't there already one? ctrl+alt+d
[20:35] <thowland> TTNK: Also, try a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill GDM, you may get a login prompt
[20:35] <Michalxo> sorry, conpiz
[20:35] <ljungk> SockPants, just open the keyboard shortcuts dialog?
[20:35] <TTNK> thowland i already tried that with no success :(
[20:35] <ipatrol> Has anyone looked at the screenshot??
[20:36] <Michalxo> ipatrol, 404 not find...
[20:36] <GPL> i need an utility which can show me Live ScreenShot (Thumbnail) of Other Workspaces on the Active Workspace, i want to know, what's happening in other workspaces, like [Some things, which cant be notified by Notification Daemon] ?
[20:36] <TTNK> thowland you are right, maybe with a livecd i can edit the menu.1st file so i can boot on single mode, ill try that :D
[20:36] <SockPants> ljungk: where's that
[20:36] <ipatrol> gimme a sec to post it again...
[20:36] <ljungk> SockPants: @preferences
[20:36] <ipatrol> http://img8.imageshack.us/i/captureubuntu.jpg/
[20:36] <lyrae_> Which log would i look at to try to determine what caused my system to crash?
[20:37] <GPL> i hope, you get the idea :) and suggest me a nice applet or soft. package :)
[20:37] <guntbert> lyrae_: start with /var/log/syslog
[20:37] <ljungk> SockPants: which is under the system menu
[20:37] <osotogari> i ticked the option for ubuntu to remember my applications on startup. I have unticked it but it still loads up the applications i was running on shutdown
[20:37] <lyrae_> guntbert: thank you. there wouldnt be anything obvious here woudl it? (like.. ***IT FROZE***, or something that stands out)
[20:38] <Lint> how to turn on font hinting in Ubuntu?
[20:38] <Michalxo> ipatrol, try this in terminal:   file /path/to/that/file/you/starting/up
[20:38] <Michalxo> file is a command
[20:39] <ipatrol> In bash, how do you represent a space?
[20:39] <mike3> " "
[20:39] <dommy> oi
[20:40] <ljungk> Lint, try the 'fonts' tab of the appearance dialog under preferences. there there is a button called Details or something like that
[20:40] <Slart> ipatrol: you can use \   too
[20:40] <Michalxo> gcleric, btw, one of my best movies too ';)
[20:40] <SockPants> ljungk: ah found it, but i cant find Show Desktop there
[20:41] <ipatrol> Michalxo: /home/username/new file.pgp: GPG encrypted data
[20:41] <Michalxo> well.. ipatrol and what do you want to do with that file? :)
[20:41] <ipatrol> Decrypt it
[20:41] <ipatrol> From GNOME
[20:42] <MK13> what happens when you try to access an scsi cd drive from /dev/cdrom in dd?
[20:42] <SockPants> ljungk: ah found it
[20:42] <guntbert> lyrae_: no, but there are time stamps in there and you can see the boot process quite clear, so ...
[20:42] <Michalxo> ipatrol, sorry I can;'t help more.. I've never used de/encryption :(
[20:42] <MK13> !scsi
[20:43] <ipatrol> has anyone ever used de/encryption ?
[20:43] <lyrae_> guntbert: many thanks
[20:43] <GuidMorrow> wth!!! now I have a folder I can't delete! It keeps saying permission denied!
[20:44] <guntbert> ipatrol: as for file names in bash: <tab> completion works there too...
[20:44] <Michalxo> GuidMorrow, sudo rm -r that dir
[20:44] <guntbert> lyrae_: no problem - good hunting
[20:44] <Michalxo> GuidMorrow, just take care when sudo rm-ing
[20:44] <Michalxo> think twice before rm -rf /something
[20:44] <mikaelk> Hello!
[20:45] <morph1> why ustream dont work whit ubuntu?
[20:45] <mikaelk> Does anyone know of a good place to ask questions related to GTK# and Mono?
[20:45] <ipatrol> don't use remove, use gksudo nautilus, then go to the folder and delete it
[20:45] <sebsebseb> !danger |  Michalxo  GuidMorrow
[20:46] <guntbert> !danger | Michalxo (I know you meant well)
[20:46] <Michalxo> sorry
[20:46] <ipatrol> rm?
[20:46] <ubuntu> for dual boot w/ xp already installed, can I just increase the ubuntu install size? and have windoze still work?
[20:46] <Michalxo> yeah...
[20:47] <morph1> why dont work ustream on ubuntu?
[20:47] <jerknextdoor> can any one help me with my 9.04 preferences just going crazy?
[20:47] <guntbert> ipatrol: rm doesn't ask any questions if used with -f, so you can remove your whole system!!
[20:48] <tarvid> Trying to install jaunty on old kt880 box. flashing caps and scroll lock suggest kernel panic. any suggestions
[20:48] <TIctoon> do an md5sum check on the iso and check the integrity of the disk
[20:49] <sebsebseb> tarvid: willl it even install is  another question, how much RAM?
[20:49] <guntbert> tarvid: what is a kt880? listen to what TIctoon said
[20:49] <tarvid> 256
[20:49] <sebsebseb> tarvid: ok  should be able to install it then
[20:49] <tarvid> tried several disks including a Knoppix and an official canonical jaunty
[20:49] <sebsebseb> tarvid: and  you get what you said?  well sunds like a possible hardware issue actsaulley
[20:49] <Hydrid> is TCP/UDP the same with ftp/tcp to open port 20,21
[20:50] <tarvid> could be but that signal is kernel panic
[20:50] <guntbert> Hydrid: your question is not clear for me
[20:50] <Kheops> hi
[20:50] <Kheops> I need some help
[20:50] <sebsebseb> tarvid: how do you know it means kernel panic?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Kheops
[20:50] <Voxxy> Hey folks.  I get a lock up on loggin.  I can open terminal but I have to press the same letter a whole bunch of times for it to register.  Can't clck on any menus, can't even logout or restart.  Only thing I've installed before this happened was skype.  Any ideas?
[20:51] <tarvid> because flashing caps and scroll lock is done by the kernel
[20:51] <Kheops> I want to set up a lan and to share the internet conexion.
[20:51] <Hydrid> guntbert:  ok i found it .in my router i am trying to open port 20,21 for vsftpd
[20:51] <sebsebseb> tarvid: how you checked that the CD's were good as someone suggested
[20:51] <sebsebseb> tarvid: have not how above
[20:51] <palestinian> Can anybody help me with uShare?
[20:51] <guntbert> Hydrid: nice :-)
[20:51] <tarvid> Some of the cds I tried have worked on other machines
[20:52] <Orbixx> $10 to anybody who can install FreeNX on my Ubuntu server installation and actually get it working.
[20:52] <tarvid> one of them is a canonical cd
[20:52] <Kheops> hmmm 1 helper in all channel ?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> tarvid: a kernel pnaic hmm
[20:52] <sebsebseb> tarvid: panic
[20:52] <iceroot> Orbixx: just ask a ubuntu-related question
[20:52] <Hydrid> guntbert:  where it says lan users wan users i leave it to ANY ?
[20:52] <untitled> hi, where an I get ker
[20:52] <mbeierl> Orbixx: I use nomachine's nx client.  I could never get freenx to work
[20:52] <untitled> hi, where an I get kernel patches for bootsplash?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> tarvid: I guess this is basically a sign saying that  the old hardware has pretty much had it
[20:52] <Voxxy> I gets n lve? :-P
[20:52] <Orbixx> mbeierl: I can't get !M's nx server to work either.
[20:52] <Kheops> hmmmm I asked..but no one answer.
[20:52] <guntbert> tarvid: Flashing leds: on my old notebook that was a hardware problem
[20:53] <sebsebseb> tarvid: and maybe you can change some setting in the bios or update it, and that would help, or not,   oh and  I can't exactly help you
[20:53] <Kheops> sebsebseb : can you tell me who can help me ?
[20:53] <Orbixx> iceroot: I have already, nobody seems to know.
[20:53] <guntbert> Hydrid: I don't know your router ;-)
[20:53] <mbeierl> Orbixx: I have it working, even using likewise open to do Windows AD authentication.  What error are you getting
[20:53] <tarvid> could be, i tried failsafe in the bios and had to reset the bios to get a boot screen
[20:53] <Orbixx> "the remote proxy closed the connection while negotiating the session. This may be due to the wrong authentication credentials passed to the server."
[20:53] <palestinian> Can anybody help me with uShare?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Kheops: no
[20:53] <Orbixx> (The password is correct; I triple-checked)
[20:54] <sebsebseb> !patience |  Kheops
[20:54] <tarvid> tried noapic nolapic apic=off
[20:54] <Brian_> i would like to install ubuntu and kubuntu but im thinking should i just install kde ontop of gnome and have the files inter mingle or i could just do a duel bootsetup so the apps dont mix and cause a mess, what do you guys think
[20:54] <guhhh> when compiling, wich commands must be ran with sudo?
[20:54] <Kheops> I want to set up a lan and to share the internet conexion.
[20:54] <tarvid> make install
[20:54] <bucky> palestinian, did you install ushare from the repos?
[20:54] <guntbert> !compile | guhhh
[20:54] <guhhh> tarvid: only?
[20:54] <tarvid> usually
[20:54] <Hydrid> guntbert: in inboundservices it says: service ftp(20,21)   Action allow always   send to lan server   .....  ......  ......  ....... ip  do i put something here?
[20:54] <palestinian> Bucky: No, i didn't know it was in the repos. Im running jaunty x64. ill check right now.
[20:55] <guhhh> alright thanks
[20:55] <Kheops> !ping
[20:55] <palestinian> lol
[20:55] <Kheops> !say a
[20:55] <Kheops> :))
[20:55] <Pici> !msgthebot
[20:55] <palestinian> Bucky, my bad. I thought it wasnt in the repos. Thanks!
[20:55] <tarvid> problems compiling are usually missing dev modules
[20:55] <guntbert> Hydrid: configuration fo your router is beyound the scope of *this* channel, you could try in ##networking
[20:55] <tarvid> assuming the basics are installed
[20:55] <mortuis99> the motheboard in the machine can support up to 8 ultra ATA HDs with 9.04 have any problems with that?
[20:55] <Hydrid> okz thanks :)
[20:56] <Kheops> somebody for help ?
[20:56] <mortuis99> kheops just ask the question dont have to ask to ask
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Kheops: I mentioned it to someone else,  and  he gave me this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[20:56] <Kheops> I've asked 2 times
[20:57] <mortuis99> sometimes no one answers becasue they are busy ot dont know the answer just be parient
[20:57] <Kheops> I've tried
[20:57] <Kheops> nothing happens
[20:57] <mortuis99> sometimes no one answers becasue they are busy or doesnt know the answer just be patient
[20:58] <Kheops> sebsebseb : can you help ?
[20:58] <Kheops> I've tried all that the link says.
[20:58] <Kheops> nothing happens
[20:58] <vix1> i am trying to connect to  a windows machines share from my pc on another pc sharing the same wireless router what port do i need to open
[20:58] <palestinian> Does Ubuntu have a sales & marketing team or is it all user-based that sells
[20:58] <sebsebseb> palestinian: commerical support sells
[20:59] <sebsebseb> palestinian: for servers and what not
[20:59] <Hydrid> do i allow ftp port 20,21 for outbound and inbound services?
[20:59] <Kheops> !users
[20:59] <bucky> Kheops, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713332
[20:59] <palestinian> Yeah, its amazing how much Ubuntu has evolved in the past two years.
[20:59] <Pici> !canonical | palestinian
[20:59] <palestinian> i <3 ubuntu
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Kheops: no, but  that's  how you probably do it
[21:00] <Kheops> ?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> !love >  palestinian
[21:00] <Hydrid> guntbert: do i allow ftp port 20,21 for outbound and inbound services?
[21:00] <palestinian> I wanted to try KDE4 since I am all about GUI, but its super confusing coming from gnome environment
[21:00] <sebsebseb> palestinian: yeah I know what you mean
[21:00] <sebsebseb> palestinian: KDE 3 is better if your coming from Gnome really :)
[21:01] <Goldenjo> Hello, i installed the 185 Nvidia drivers on top of the 180. Is the system supposedly to work properly?
[21:01] <bucky> Kheops, you need to set up your iptables rules to make your linux box act like a gateway.. that's what you were asking wasn't it.. there are simpler web pages on the internet
[21:01] <sebsebseb> palestinian: and want to use as  a GUI,  thing is,  KDE 3 is on the verge of dieing, as a result you have to do the  a remix CD or add a repo for it in  Ubuntu if you want it
[21:01] <palestinian> sebsebseb: Haha i remember trying kde3 and being confused. I'm used to just Appearance properties and the compiz effects, in kde it seems theres 10 different places for tweaking gui.
[21:01] <sebsebseb> palestinian: or install in some other way
[21:01] <palestinian> i got lost very easily in kde4
[21:02] <palestinian> but beautiful gui!
[21:02] <sebsebseb> palestinian: as someone who has  used   Linux  since  Fedora Core 2 in 2004,  I still don't understand,  when it comes to the KDE fan boys, the ones who think it's so much better than Gnome
[21:02] <xiong> in synaptic, what's this with 'N packages will be held back and not upgraded'?
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[21:02] <sebsebseb> palestinian: KDE does have some pretty nice apps though, but most of them will work pretty well in Gnome as well so :)
[21:02] <palestinian> sebsebseb: I can do things 10x faster in gnome than in kde because i wont spend most of my time tyring to find it.
[21:02] <Goldenjo> OK.
[21:02] <palestinian> KO.
[21:03] <sebsebseb> palestinian: heh indeed I know what you mean,  it's always been like that for me to,  where do I  look for...   well it's normalley like that
[21:03] <ubuntu_> hi all
[21:03] <palestinian> im trying to get Street Fighter 4 to run in WINE
[21:03] <AJC_Z0> Goldenjo: Use the System > Administration > Hardware Drivers to select the driver(s) you want
[21:03] <guhhh> i want my mom
[21:03] <sebsebseb> !kde3 >  palestinian
[21:03] <jmendelblatt> I am trying to mount a vfat sata drive (sdb1) to /media/MEDIA. I have mounted the drive through fstab and can access it, but cannot write to the drive.  Is it the mount point permissions or the fstab entry.  Here is my fstab on this system: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3f532f94
[21:03] <guntbert> Hydrid: just try it, you can turn it off if its no good
[21:03] <sebsebseb> guhhh: by the way really it's Mum :)
[21:04] <abhifx> hey there. i m trying to update my kde to 4.3. bt now there is no menu and panel. what package m i missing?
[21:04] <Goldenjo> Yes but a message keeps prompting at startup.
[21:04] <sebsebseb> abhifx: you did the ppa?
[21:04] <Goldenjo> About that i have the screen 0 used by an X server.
[21:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> palestinian, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17140&iTestingId=42318 as you see street fighter 4 isn't supported
[21:04] <AJC_Z0> After removing firefox-3.5 packages, then installing firefox-3.5 (which installed firefox, firefox-3.0, firefox-3.5, gnome and Ununtu brand packages) and switching /usr/bin/firefox to firefox-3.5, everything appears to work as before except that Firefox seems to ignore the "Use system proxy setting" but works fine with manual configuration. Clues?
[21:04] <stercor1> How can I un-archive a .zip file?
[21:04] <mbeierl> Is there any way of mounting a Windows share so that the real owner of the file is shown, not "root,root" or "user,user"?
[21:04] <ivenkys> question : i am running 64-bit Ubuntu and have installed Virtual BOx on it , now my guest O.S's do they have to be 64-bit... ?
[21:05] <abhifx> i added the ppa. but i am updating it manually
[21:05] <porkpie> hey guy's .... how do I forward all root@localhost emails to another address(s)
[21:05] <Michalxo> stercor1, I think you need to install zip  sudo apt-get install zip
[21:05] <Michalxo> *sorry stercor1 it's rar.. zip should be there by default..
[21:05] <sebsebseb> abhifx: maybe  you would be better off asking for help with that in #kubuntu
[21:05] <palestinian> Supersaiyan_IV, im trying to do it through Steam. But i doubt it as well. Question: is Cedega REALLY ahead in the game emulation?
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[21:05] <stercor1> Michalxo: I have the archiver.  Can I bring it up from the command line?
[21:05] <Michalxo> stercor1, just rightclick on it.. file-roller should open it and unzip it
[21:05] <guntbert> stercor1: righ click on it, extract here...
[21:05] <amites> Any ideas why I would not be able to stream a DivX video over my network? Opening smaller files works just fine
[21:06] <Michalxo> stercor1, I strongly believe yes :)
[21:06] <amews_aj> Is MiKTeX a good latex implementation?
[21:06] <Supersaiyan_IV> palestinian, I haven't used cedega so I cannot comment, however if you want to run the older street fighter versions dosbox will work
[21:06] <DukeD> i want to install gtk and all needed packages for gui programming with C and GTK+. what command should i use ? can i use apt-get?
[21:06] <palestinian> Is there a way to use full graphics card support in a vm?
[21:07] <iceroot> amews_aj: no, use texlive for linux
[21:07] <sebsebseb> DukeD: of course you can use apt-get
[21:07] <mikaelk> Hey. Anyone who knows lots about Mono and GTK# in here willing to help me a with a problem?
[21:07] <iceroot> palestinian: yes, with virtualbox 3 non-free version
[21:07] <mbeierl> ivenkys: afk, no.  The guests should be able to run 32.  The other way around is not possible: 64 bit guest cannot be emulated on real 32 bit processor
[21:07] <guhhh> sudo apt-get install wine
[21:07] <Supersaiyan_IV> palestinian, if cedega says it supports a game ,it works, cedega isn't free though
[21:07] <amews_aj> well, actually non-win, just thought you knew more about tex here
[21:07] <palestinian> thanks supersaiyan_iv
[21:07] <iceroot> !ask | mikaelk
[21:07] <ivan__> oi
[21:07] <jordo2323> I am trying to mount a vfat sata drive (sdb1) to /media/MEDIA. I have mounted the drive through fstab and can access it, but cannot write to the drive.  Is it the mount point permissions or the fstab entry.  Here is my fstab on this system: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3f532f94
[21:07] <sebsebseb> mikaelk: I don't know loads about it, but what is your problem?
[21:07] <palestinian> thanks iceroot, ill cehck out the website, should i uninstall the ose first?
[21:08] <iceroot> palestinian: yes, but dont usw purge. vbox 3 cant then detect your old vms
[21:08] <ivenkys> mbeierl: hmm ,, thanks
[21:08] <sebsebseb> palestinian: I think the  closed source one will go over the OSE basicalley, but probably better to remove it first
[21:08] <mikaelk> I'm writing an app in C#. It's supposed to be showing pictures on a screen for a set duration, then move on to the next picture in a playlist. I've gotten so far that it's forcing a redraw of the control, and each time fetching the picture. I've attached a timer which advances the playlist one step and at the same time does an drawingarea.QueueDraw(), it works for a random amount of iterations (2-10), then it stops redrawing, but the timer keeps o
[21:08] <mikaelk> n ticking and fetching a new picture.
[21:08] <palestinian> okay, hsould i just remove it via synaptic?
[21:08] <DukeD> sebsebseb: what command should i use to install it from command line ?
[21:08] <mbeierl> ivenkys: I know that it works with VMware that way.
[21:08] <guntbert> DukeD: you can use apt-get and you'll need the "dev" packages too (try sudo apt-get install gtk<tab><tab>
[21:08] <ivenkys> mbeierl: should be the same thing then
[21:09] <iceroot> mikaelk: join #c# (or what the channel is called)
[21:09] <Michalxo> guntbert, isn't it like libgtk<tab><tab>? :)
[21:09] <palestinian> Yeah, it won't install: Conflicts with the Installed package "virtualbox-ose"
[21:09] <mikaelk> There is a channel here for it as well?
[21:09] <palestinian> this is so much faster to get answers than the forum
[21:09] <sebsebseb> heh guntbert to the rescuse it seems,  I don't  actsaully know what he would install, but  there are people I can ask about stuff like that :)
[21:09] <DukeD> guntbert: the tabtab returns 111 possibilities
[21:09] <iceroot> mikaelk: at freenode there is a channel for every program and every language
[21:10] <n8tuser> mikaelk its also targeting the windows platform so you may do better in windows based channel..
[21:10] <Michalxo> DukeD, type another one letter ;) it will shorten the list ;)
[21:10] <DukeD> Michalxo: i don't know what packages are needed, so what other letter i should type
[21:10] <Blehk> I'm trying to compile an app that's asking for the python directory: I'm using --with-python=/usr/lib/python2.5 (which is where my python files are correct..?)
[21:10] <guntbert> Michalxo: the idea with libgtk... sounds good :-)
[21:11] <xmnt> Blehk, locate python
[21:11] <SeekerNL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice2/+bug/422812  someone know how to solve this ?
[21:11] <guntbert> sebsebseb: :-)
[21:11] <purvesh> can any 1 help me to solve small my prob.... related to change partition in ubuntu...?  ,purvesh
[21:11] <stercor1> How can I view a .ttf file?
[21:11] <DukeD> guntbert: Michalxo: apt-get install libgtk<tab><tab> returns 196 possibilities :s
[21:11] <sebsebseb> stercor1: in a text editor?
[21:12] <Blehk> xmnt: apparently it's at the right place, just failing. Yay.
[21:12] <stercor1> In a font viewer.
[21:12] <prince_jammys> Blehk: use the python dir in /usr/local for custom stuff.
[21:12] <mikaelk> iceroot, thanks. I'll look there. :)
[21:12] <pd> hey, i would use pastebin for this, but my firefox doesnt work :-)
[21:12] <pd> E: xulrunner-1.9: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 135
[21:12] <pd> E: firefox-3.0: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:12] <pd> E: firefox-3.0-branding: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:12] <pd> E: firefox: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:12] <pd> E: xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:12] <FloodBot2> pd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <sebsebseb> pd: doesn't work?
[21:12] <prince_jammys> Blehk: that is, if you're custom installing a python module.
[21:12] <sebsebseb> pd: doesn't work? how so?
[21:12] <pd> my update crapped crashed in the middle and now my firefox is screwed up and synaptic gives me these errors
[21:12] <Michalxo> DukeD, well.. list all you need and than search for those you need ;) or use |grep -dev as "suffix" :)
[21:12] <prince_jammys> ie. not through repository.
[21:13] <stercor1> What is the name of Ubuntu's font viewer?
[21:13] <audioteknika> Hey guys.. I'm trying to configure my radeon 9700
[21:13] <guntbert> DukeD: have a look at http://blog.xgra.com/2009/03/31/how-to-setup-a-complete-php-gtk2-development-enviornment-under-ubuntu-810/
[21:13] <audioteknika> I only get a blackscreen
[21:13] <audioteknika> the only way I can fully boot is by adding vesa
[21:13] <pd> sebsebseb: it doesnt turn on, and i'm sure its because the update crashed in the middle of installing it.  how can i fix those packages?  thanks!
[21:13] <sebsebseb> !work |  pd
[21:13] <audioteknika> in xorg.conf
[21:13] <DukeD> Michalxo: that's the thing. i don't know what i need exactly.. i want to be able to use GTK+ within my C programs. that was my initial question....
[21:14] <bucky> DukeD, a lot of people use glade.. you might want some other packages to go with it... apt-cache show glade  or glade2
[21:14] <sebsebseb> pd: you  already said, but I wanted to do the factoid :)
[21:14] <pd> sebsebseb: doesnt start up.  thanks for the factoid :-)
[21:14] <DukeD> bucky: what's glade ?
[21:14] <bucky> DukeD, an IDE
[21:14] <sebsebseb> pd: remove Firefox and re install it?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> pd: purge remove even
[21:15] <sebsebseb> pd: or do it in synaptic
[21:15] <pd> sebsebseb: i tried reinstalling, but no dice, i don't think it will let me remove firefox?
[21:15] <fahad> hello , how can i hide the icon in the commendbox  ?  i use ubuntu 9
[21:15] <sebsebseb> pd: yes you can,  and then re instal lit
[21:15] <Trijntje> hi all, after installing guest addition for kubuntu in vbox i can only login in text mode, any pointers?
[21:15] <sebsebseb> pd: of course if you have a bad Firefox profile on there, when you re open it, after a re install, it will be like before
[21:16] <Brian_>  i would like to install ubuntu and kubuntu but im thinking should i just install kde ontop of gnome and have the files inter mingle or i could just do a duel bootsetup so the apps dont mix and cause a mess, what do you guys think
[21:16] <sebsebseb> pd: in other words  remove/move the hidden  .mozilla in home if you got one
[21:16] <derenrich> anyone know how easy it is to mount a fake RAID under ubuntu?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Brian_: heh
[21:16] <bostux> Brian_ : why do you want both?
[21:16] <Brian_> why not
[21:17] <prince_jammys> Brian_: I'd just install the kde libs and not bother having two distros for that.
[21:17] <fahad>  how can i hide the icon in the commendbox  ?  i use ubuntu 9 ! pls answer
[21:17] <false> Brian_: If you're wanting to toy with both environments, you can install them both and switch between gdm and kdm at the login screen.
[21:17] <bostux> Brian_: if you don't mind rebooting I would install it that way, I don't like having all of the kde libraries
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Brian_:  I mean   you probably, don't know that you don't dual boot Kubuntu and Ubuntu, as two differnet operating systems, because your reasonably new?
[21:17] <cryptopsy> fahad: What happens if I refuse to pls answer you?
[21:17] <bl00z> some uses dual vga monitor on 9.04 ?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Brian_: well you can do a dual boot, but you don't need to
[21:17] <prince_jammys> Brian_: there's no big mess, except in the menus, which you can correct.
[21:17] <bucky> Brian_, you can choose your desktop environment from the log in screen
[21:17] <murielgodoi> !off
[21:18] <sebsebseb> Brian_: you can install  Kubuntu  into your Ubuntu install and then   log into Kubuntu when you want to by choosing that as the session on the log in screen.   or  with enough RAM  you could even virtual machine Kubuntu inside Ubuntu, and be able to run both at the same time like that
[21:18] <fahad> cryptopsy , i want to hide the icon in my theme with ubuntu
[21:18] <Brian_> i had kde and gnome both installed before but i was just thinkin if i did duel boot the apps wont mix and just keep them as two systems
[21:18] <bl00z> some uses dual vga monitor on 9.04 ?
[21:18] <fahad> just the icons in the commandbox
[21:18] <cryptopsy> fahad: You don't like the ubuntu icon?
[21:18] <Royall> hm. Alt - Tab is not working. It's set to switch windows (like in Windows) but when I press it it does nothing.
[21:18] <prince_jammys> Brian_: the apps don't "mix", except in the menus.
[21:19] <pd> sebsebseb: hmm, i got rid of everything it was complaining about, but then it comes down to xul-runner1.9 and to remove that i need to remove ubuntu-desktop, yelp, etc
[21:19] <cryptopsy> Royall: ctrl+alt +f4
[21:19] <bucky> Brian_, i run Kstars from gnome and my files mix and mingle
[21:19] <xmnt> anyone know off the top of their dome how to install pcre?
[21:19] <fahad> cryptopsy , i change my theme to Mac OS Theme
[21:19] <cryptopsy> fahad: So what? Its still ubuntu.
[21:19] <sebsebseb> pd: ah yes  removing ubuntu-desktop   it really isn't the end of the world if you do
[21:19] <alankila> xmnt: libpcre3-dev?
[21:19] <pd> sebsebseb: so go ahead and do it?
[21:19] <Brian_> ya ill prob just install kde like i always do i was just thinkin
[21:19] <cryptopsy> fahad: Worship the ubuntu logo, and wear it with pride on your soul!
[21:19] <fahad> yah i know
[21:20] <purvesh> Brian_: use virtual box...
[21:20] <sebsebseb> pd: ubuntu-desktop is good to have there though, when your  doing an upgrade to later version of Ubuntu
[21:20] <cryptopsy> fahad: I can tell you how to make it bigger and brighter if you wish.
[21:20] <sebsebseb> pd: ,but that can be put back on later anyway
[21:20] <amews_aj> MiKTeX is a working tex implementation right? Not something fake virus stuff?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> pd: well I think
[21:20] <guntbert> xmnt: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-install-libpcre3-dev/
[21:20] <fahad> i want to hide it
[21:20] <StateS> hello, I'm having trouble booting into ubuntu, I installed it just a couple a minutes ago and it gives me a grub 15 error (9.10, i386, Kubuntu)
[21:20] <purvesh> Brian_: u can put both to gather
[21:20] <sebsebseb> pd: it's just a meta package ( or whatever they are called), that tells   the package manager to install loads of stuff
[21:21] <StateS> I was just in the Kubuntu channel and they recommended that I come here
[21:21] <Michalxo> DukeD, probably google will give you more narrow results like here... or ask on #gnome channel
[21:21] <xmnt> alankila, guntbert - thanks
[21:21] <haruspexed> can i install eeebuntu on normal notebook? wondering couz it is optimized for eee it says...
[21:21] <mskut> how can I use  "cd" to explore folders with a name that consists of two words? for instance "Program Files"
[21:21] <scorpid> hi everybody
[21:21] <bucky> StateS, ext4 ?
[21:21] <fahad> http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[21:21] <fahad> go here
[21:21] <bl00z> some uses dual vga monitor on 9.04 ?
[21:21] <fahad> thats i mean
[21:21] <DukeD> Michalxo: i've been on google all day for this issue. nowhere i can find a good documented install method. i'll ask on gnome too
[21:22] <fahad> sorry my english not very good
[21:22] <guntbert> mskut: try cd P<tab>, that shows you the way
[21:22] <smerz> mskut: type "cd Prog" and hit tab. it will either complete your CD command or show you a list
[21:22] <Researcher> Hello.
[21:22] <Ben64> mskut: "cd Program\ Files"
[21:22] <cryptopsy> fahad: No thanks, I'm trying to make an ubuntu logo pop up everytime I press certain keys - transparant of course - but just to remind me of the beauty and pride of this OS
[21:22] <Hydrid> must i open for my ftp port 20,21 at inbound aaaand outbound services to my router
[21:22] <Hydrid> ?
[21:22] <scorpid> how can i show my webcam to ubuntu
[21:22] <sebsebseb> pd: normalley you would want to keep ubuntu-desktop installed though
[21:22] <miguelonnnn> hi please  1 question, what are "le" 's?
[21:22] <smerz> mskut: otherwise you can use "cd Program\ Files"    "\ " <--- thats a space
[21:22] <StateS> bucky, yes, but I just went into the wrong channel, they actually recommended that I go to #ubuntu+1 ... arg... though that the +1 was just some extra text...
[21:22] <StateS> lol
[21:22] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: In what context?
[21:22] <miguelonnnn> i read, each le is mapped to an inode, but i don't know what are le's
[21:22] <pd> sebsebseb: actually i think its cool, i'll know in a minute
[21:22] <Brian_> purvesh: thats what i am  doing i was just wondering if there was any advantage to kde having its own partition
[21:22] <prince_jammys> mskut: simply quote the directory you're going to, or escape the spaces with a backslash.
[21:22] <Royall> whoever told me do to that, I'm logged, and I'm highlighting ops.
[21:22] <bucky> StateS, and grub2... with ext4 filesystem?
[21:23] <mskut> ah ok, thanks..Ill try that
[21:23] <bl00z> anyone using dual vga monitor on 9.04 ?
[21:23] <scorpid> ---->how can i show my webcam to ubuntu
[21:23] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: Its probably short form for something in the article you read.
[21:23] <miguelonnnn> i guess they are (fi)le but ... i'm not sure
[21:23] <miguelonnnn> no, i'm looked at it and it isn't
[21:23] <StateS> bucky, yes, known bug? Oo
[21:23] <miguelonnnn> many websites speak bout it but they don't mention its meaning
[21:23] <cryptopsy> scorpid: Try spicing up your config files with more arrows. Or individual dashes and "<" or ">" signs.
[21:23] <fahad> yah thx cryptopsy but i really want to hide it
[21:23] <Researcher> I have downloaded the gw6c client ( which is mainly use to creating ipv6 tunnel ) This client can only be run as "root" by issueing command ./gw6c, How i can add this scripts to be executed on system restart  ?
[21:23] <Michalxo> gn!
[21:23] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: Link me
[21:24] <cryptopsy> fahad: I think you should install mas OSX
[21:24] <purvesh> Brian_: if u delete any partition on ur current ubuntu then only u can put dual os..
[21:24] <miguelonnnn> ok w8 a sec plz
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[21:24] <cryptopsy> fahad: Its unix based
[21:24] <fahad> no i like linux
[21:24] <bucky> StateS, you might have to go into /boot/grub/grub.cfg  I think thats where it is and change to rootfs=ext4
[21:24] <fahad> :)
[21:24] <cryptopsy> fahad: No you don't
[21:24] <fahad> ubunto
[21:24] <scorpid> is it funny
[21:24] <scorpid> ?
[21:24] <cryptopsy> fahad: If you love ubuntu you'd be plastering your desktop with ubuntu logos, to show your pride off to your friends.
[21:24] <guntbert> !u | purvesh
[21:24] <fahad> yes yes i like ubunto but just i want to change the theme complete
[21:24] <Royall> How do you highlight the ops in case of emergency
[21:25] <Researcher> I have downloaded the gw6c client ( which is mainly use to creating ipv6 tunnel ) This client can only be run as "root" by issueing command ./gw6c, How i can add this scripts to be executed on system restart  ? My os is ubuntu 8.10
[21:25] <sebsebseb> Royall: why do you want to?
[21:25] <StateS> buckyy, where should I set that in the file? after the set root=etc? Oo
[21:25] <cryptopsy> fahad: It wouldn't be ubuntu without the ubuntu logo, it would be some sick plagiarised version.
[21:25] <scorpid> is anyone here knows how to configure webcam
[21:25] <fahad> oh yah
[21:25] <IdleOne> !webcam > scorpid
[21:25] <cryptopsy> fahad: To be honest, I never knew all along how you could make the change - but perhaps you should call the Macintosh help-line, they are likely to know since both are unix based.
[21:26] <StateS> bucky, where should I set that in the file? after the set root=etc? Oo
[21:26] <cryptopsy> fahad: And, to be honest, I think this a macOS issue, not an ubuntu issue ... good luck ^_^
[21:26] <IdleOne> cryptopsy: please stop with the non helpful comments
[21:26] <purvesh> Brian_: sorry for using "u" or "ur"...!
[21:26] <sebsebseb> Royall: join #ubuntu-ops and ask them?
[21:26] <Royall> sebsebseb: I asked for help and was told to ctrl-alt-f4, and I didn't know what it did so I assumed it would fix my problem, but it forced me to log off. Now, I could have been working on important stuff or files of mine could have been lost because of it
[21:26] <fahad> thanks man
[21:26] <fahad> :)
[21:26] <StateS> sorry for double post, sometimes my keyboard goes screwy and places the same letter twice... don't know why though...
[21:26] <cryptopsy> IdleOne: He is thankful. My comments were helpful.
[21:26] <Royall> sebsebseb: either way it was a stupid user and they shouldn't be allowed in here
[21:27] <matrix_> hey does anyone have problems with login into amsn or pidgin
[21:27] <osotogari> i ticked the option for ubuntu to remember my applications on startup. I have unticked it but it still loads up the applications i was running on shutdown
[21:27] <fahad> for your Response sure =)
[21:27] <cryptopsy> matrix_: What kind of problems?
[21:27] <cryptopsy> :)
[21:27] <Researcher> I have downloaded the gw6c client ( which is mainly use to creating ipv6 tunnel ) This client can only be run as "root" by issueing command ./gw6c, How i can add this scripts to be executed on system restart  ? My os is ubuntu 8.10
[21:27] <matrix_> i can't log in
[21:27] <ascheel> So...  I just noticed, when I change a password with 'passwd', it says "Enter new UNIX password:" and I think it's kinda funny.  :)
[21:27] <sebsebseb> Royall: ok well I didn't see that,   also   by the way there are a few bad commands for Linux even,  that you might get told to run, so be careful when  told to run commands
[21:27] <Researcher> I have downloaded the gw6c client ( which is mainly use to creating ipv6 tunnel ) This client can only be run as "root" by issueing command ./gw6c, How i can add this scripts to be executed on system restart  ? My os is ubuntu 8.10
[21:27] <cryptopsy> matrix_: So its a connection issue then.
[21:27] <guntbert> Royall: thats no emergency for the ops - you still should apply some "common sense", and maybe ask what a certain command does
[21:27] <matrix_> well i can surf on internet
[21:27] <cryptopsy> matrix_: I think amsn has an error log file - maybe its in /var but you can google it
[21:27] <Thingymebob> Royall: CTRL+ALT+F4 didn't log you off, it switched you to a virtual terminal you should have been able to get back with ctrl+alt +f7
[21:27] <dfred> what's the command to use to point and click on an application to kill it?
[21:28] <cryptopsy> matrix_: Maybe your network is blocking those ports.
[21:28] <matrix_> even pidgin is not working for me
[21:28] <Royall> sebsebseb: well I can tell when a command is suspicious, but my problem pertained to keyboard shortcuts so I thought that was something I could use
[21:28] <matrix_> no i never had problems  with my ports before
[21:28] <cryptopsy> dfred: right click - it depends on the window manager though.
[21:28] <miguelonnnn> sry to hard to link
[21:28] <Royall> So fine, whatever
[21:28] <cryptopsy> matrix_: Check error logs.
[21:28] <sebsebseb> Royall: well same thing guntbert  said then, but  for keyboard shortcuts
[21:28] <miguelonnnn> i must write the whole link, i can't copy them
[21:28] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: You can link me to any of those which you say speak of le's
[21:28] <miguelonnnn> just google "le file" inodes
[21:28] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: tinyurl it
[21:28] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: OK.
[21:29] <dfred> cryptopsy: I mean when that doesnt work
[21:29] <purvesh> any one know about customising in partition in ubuntu?????? ,purvesh
[21:29] <sebsebseb> Royall: it's  !  o   p  s    without the spaces  for the channal emergency by the way
[21:29] <Zer1> hello everyone
[21:29] <Thingymebob> Royall: Still it was bad advice for you problem, just check what things do first, everyone here is trying to help, but everyone also gets it wrong sometimes
[21:29] <Royall> okay, a question: when gnome-do starts it always never works. Like, typing things into it brings up nothing
[21:29] <guntbert> sebsebseb: it seems we are fighting back to back tonight :-)
[21:29] <Royall> I have to kill it and start it again
[21:30] <Zer1> hey ppl
[21:30] <deitarion> How do I tell NetworkManager to not load wpa_supplicant? (Ideally, how do I get rid of NetworkManager (fixed installation) while keeping networking up and working)
[21:30] <bucky> dfred, type xkill in a term and when your cursor turns into an X click on the app you want to kill
[21:30] <sebsebseb> guntbert: tonight aye?   yeah  lateish evening here, what about for you?
[21:30] <cryptopsy> dfred: I'm sorry?
[21:30] <sebsebseb> guntbert: well not that late
[21:30] <matrix_> how can i remove totaly amsn then install is it sudo apt-get purge remove amsn
[21:30] <cryptopsy> dfred: Read the documentation for your WM
[21:30] <bucky> dfred, that's if you have x11-utils installed
[21:30] <cmp> hello , i want to install ( bluephone ) on my ubuntu and i dont know how to do it
[21:31] <ceil> how can i stop ubuntu from running fsck on startup?
[21:31] <cryptopsy> dfred: You would have had it figured by now had you done so.
[21:31] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: some problem with those docs and the letter f i guess: "As the bu er is larger"
[21:31] <miguelonnnn> cryptopsy, did you find it?
[21:31] <dfred> cryptopsy: yeah sure
[21:31] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: I haven't - but I will now.
[21:31] <sebsebseb> ceil: oh  your  being told to run fsck on startup, which version of Ubuntu?
[21:31] <guntbert> sebsebseb: 22:31 CEST
[21:31] <bucky> dfred, what app do you want to kill?
[21:31] <ceil> sebsebseb, no, but i'm assuming that's what it's using when it scans disks automatically on startup. 9.04.
[21:31] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: I haven't found it.
[21:31] <cmp> hello , i want to install ( bluephone ) on my ubuntu and i dont know how to do it
[21:31] <miguelonnnn> ok cryptopsy , i don't think so many webs got such problem prince :S
[21:31] <sebsebseb> guntbert: ah ok
[21:32] <dfred> bucky thanks
[21:32] <stercor1> Is there an application that displays thumbnails of fonts in a given directory?
[21:32] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: note how other words are missing 'ff' or 'fi' "Permission is granted to copy and distribute modi ed"
[21:32] <miguelonnnn> just "le names" inodes
[21:32] <StateS> bucky, where should I place the rootfs setting in the cfg file?
[21:32] <cryptopsy> miguelonnnn: tinyurl me your article.
[21:32] <miguelonnnn> i mean, le names with commas ' '
[21:32] <prince_jammys> 'file'
[21:32] <bucky> StateS, isn't there a line for rootfs in there already?
[21:32] <Zer1> Hey, I installed hardinfo onto Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron; where do I find the GUI? Because I've looked everywhere but don't seem to find it after my install in the Synaptic Package Manager...
[21:32] <StateS> bucky, nope
[21:32] <cmp> hello , i want to install ( bluephone ) on my ubuntu and i dont know how to do it???????
[21:32] <bucky> StateS, hmm...
[21:32] <sebsebseb> ceil: after about 20 boots  it will do a disk check yes
[21:32] <miguelonnnn> yeah prince, some sites do that but some others don't... :(
[21:33] <cryptopsy> Zer1: Do you even know what you're looking for?
[21:33] <miguelonnnn> w8 i'll tinyrul
[21:33] <IdleOne> Zer1: just type hardinfo in a terminal
[21:33] <ceil> sebastien, and i don't want it to.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> ceil: ,but   fsck can also be run manually to fix  errors in a file system
[21:33] <Royall> also: starting up Ubuntu, it doesn't mount an external hard drive automatically like it shoud. I always have to go through Partition Editor to mount it. Any way I can make it do it automatically?
[21:33] <ceil> sebsebseb, and i don't want it to
[21:33] <Royall> should*
[21:33] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Only when its not mounted, unless you want to force it.
[21:33] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: the main hits on the first page all seem to be pdf's.
[21:33] <cmp> ANY BODY HERE WILL ANSWER ?????? hello , i want to install ( bluephone ) on my ubuntu and i dont know how to do it
[21:33] <Zer1> cryptopsy: Well, yea the hardinfo app which is an app to see the system specs of my computer..I looked in System Tools, etc.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: yeah when  Karmic is going to boot up :D   as of  recently,  I wonder if it will do that next time as well
[21:33] <Trijntje> !ignore|cmp
[21:34] <guntbert> !shout | cmp
[21:34] <cryptopsy> Zer1: lspci
[21:34] <cryptopsy> Zer1: I thought you wanted a GUI for your window manager?
[21:34] <Trijntje> !patience|cmp
[21:34] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: maybe not if I actsaully shut down properly rather than the power button
[21:34] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: so maybe OCR is screwing up or something. It's a screw-up, and means to be 'file'.
[21:34] <cryptopsy> Trijntje: Thank you.
[21:34] <Polarina> What's the easiest, simplest and most elegant method of installing a virtual machine on a fresh Ubuntu 9.04 installation?
[21:34] <Gnea> cmp: you don't know how to install apps?
[21:34] <cmp> iam not shouting - iam just giving a big letter to see it
[21:34] <Thingymebob> Royall: I have the same with external HDDs, though no problems with USB flash memory
[21:35] <Zer1> cryptopsy: No, I just want to use the hardinfo application that I've installed, but can't seem to find where the app is to use it.
[21:35] <Gnea> cmp: caps == shouting. how it is.
[21:35] <sebsebseb> ceil: it's good to do a disk check,  Windows does disk checks as well
[21:35] <cryptopsy> Zer1: which hardinfo
[21:35] <Thingymebob> Royall: I normally just plug it in once the DE is up, then it automounts fine
[21:35] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: ie. ignore it.
[21:35] <ceil> sebsebseb, that's not my question. if you cannot answer my question, kindly disregard me.
[21:35] <sebsebseb> ceil: I don't know how to turn it off, also with  Ext4  the disk checks are rather fast
[21:35] <Royall> Thingymebob: still annoying, as I'd like to autostart Deluge and Banshee
[21:35] <Zer1> cryptopsy: Gimme a sec.
[21:35] <cryptopsy> ceil: What is your question? Kingly disregard sebsebseb
[21:36] <cmp> Gnea: i dont know how to - and when i install it by Add and remove - it mass the system and when i do it with terminal - it tells me ( E: couldnt find the Package )
[21:36] <Royall> Thingymebob: otherwise Banshee starts flagging all my music as missing, and Deluge has to recheck everything
[21:36] <ceil> cryptopsy, how to stop ubuntu 9.04 from trying to scan my disks on startup. i understand the risks, i just want to disable it.
[21:36] <miguelonnnn> http://tinyurl.com/mnxwth
[21:36] <miguelonnnn> look at it
[21:36] <derenrich> anyone have experience with fake RAID under ubuntu?
[21:36] <Royall> ceil: you can just press esc
[21:36] <sebsebseb> Royall: that's a point he can just press esc
[21:36] <cryptopsy> ceil: Don't talk to me about risks like I'm some sort of panzy, I don't even have regular users set up.
[21:36] <Zer1> cryptopsy: This is the app: HardInfo can gather information about your system's hardware and operating system, perform benchmarks, and generate printable reports either in HTML or in plain text formats.
[21:36] <ceil> Royall, it ignored about 200 presses of escape a few minutes ago. Twice.
[21:36] <vydra_> romani pe aici ?
[21:36] <ceil> cryptopsy, lol
[21:36] <Trijntje> cmp: what is the program you are trying to install? are you sure it is available for linux?
[21:36] <Royall> oh
[21:37] <cryptopsy> Zer1: Its a terminal command.
[21:37] <miguelonnnn> prince_jammys,  sry what you said about ie. ignore it.?
[21:37] <cryptopsy> Zer1: "which hardinfo" in terminal
[21:37] <Thingymebob> Royall: Really annoying, I keep meaning to spend some time on this, (whether its design or bug), & banshee pplaylist generator needs to rescan everything once you've tried using it and the drive isn't mounted
[21:37] <cmp> yes
[21:37] <vydra_> integrated camera .. make it work on ubuntu ?
[21:37] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: in your link: "Popular UNIX avours and supported hardware"
[21:37] <ceil> Royall, if i could reliably escape from it, it wouldn't be an issue :|
[21:37] <ejv> derenrich: what exactly is fake raid
[21:37] <cmp> Trijntje, its ( blue phone )
[21:37] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: it's a glitch. disregard it.
[21:37] <Zer1> cryptopsy: Oh, ok, thank you very much.
[21:37] <ceil> Royall, as it is, i feel like my OS is forcing me to do something. i don't like that in an OS, which is why i use gnu/linux
[21:38] <miguelonnnn> prince_jammys,  i think the page you were in had that problem, cause unix le system i'm sure it was meant to be file system, but some others don't have that problems and still use 'le'
[21:38] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: it is probably a glitch from converting a pdf into text.
[21:38] <derenrich> ejv: intel matrix storage motheboard chips are somewhere between hard RAID and software RAID
[21:38] <miguelonnnn> ok
[21:38] <lakis1982> hello ....  i have an supertalent ssd   and i installed linux and windows xp ....   if  i go to BIOS and select in sata controller the ahci mode , windows xp can not boot... if i select in sata controller the IDE  mode then windows xp boot normally....  the problem is that i want to use ahci mode not  IDE .... do you know how to fix this situation ?????
[21:38] <miguelonnnn> thanks
[21:38] <miguelonnnn> i was a little confused cause hadn't ever read about le files
[21:38] <miguelonnnn> well,tyvm prince_jammys and cryptopsy !
[21:38] <prince_jammys> miguelonnnn: you probably hadn't heard about UNIX avours either ;)
[21:39] <miguelonnnn> :P
[21:39] <Ben64> lakis1982: this is a ubuntu support chan : /
[21:39] <binyassin> hello
[21:39] <cryptopsy> last digit of every mouting line controls fsck. set value to 0 if want to disable fsck.
[21:39] <binyassin> i have a problem
[21:39] <cryptopsy> .. in the fstab file
[21:39] <cmp> Trijntje?
[21:39] <cryptopsy> Or use tune2fs to change the number of times to boot before scanning
[21:39] <Trijntje> cmp: i dont know that program, what does it do? maybe there is a program that does the same for linux
[21:39] <Gnea> cmp: yeah, I'm not seeing a bluephone package either - what's bluephone supposed to be?
[21:39] <cryptopsy> It may also be possible that your distro isn't shutting down properly if it happens on each reboot
[21:39] <cryptopsy> ceil: Yes?
[21:39] <binyassin> how  i could build a network
[21:40] <ejv> lakis1982: windows xp doesn't support AHCI natively
[21:40] <ceil> cryptopsy, oh, thanks. didn't notice you were talking til you highlighted :x
[21:40] <Dezine> Is there a program that lets me control program specific volume?
[21:40] <binyassin> cryptopsy
[21:40] <mskut> who posted the link to get mac theme on ubuntu like 10 mins ago?
[21:40] <lakis1982> ejv isnt any driver for windows xp to enable ahci mode?
[21:40] <mskut> does it work for jaunty or only for hardy?
[21:40] <cmp> Trijntje, its communicate with your mobile phone ( he program lets you connect your mobile phone to the computer, and then call/sms through the computer. If someone calls you, a pop-up with incoming number shows on the screen. A log is present, so you can see missed, incoming and outgoing calls.)
[21:41] <IdleOne> !eyecandy > mskut
[21:41] <amigrave> how can I change the first day of the week in the systray calendar ?
[21:41] <Gnea> lakis1982: #ubuntu is for ubuntu support, #windows for windows support
[21:41] <ceil> cryptopsy, and it usually does crash. i never shut down my computer unless i'm moving it, but it locks up every few days/weeks/months ;x
[21:41] <ejv> I don't understand the question lakis1982
[21:41] <ejv> and you're off topic
[21:41] <ejv> !ot > lakis1982
[21:41] <cmp> Gnea, i have the link  ( you want it ) ?
[21:41] <Gnea> cmp: sure
[21:41] <mskut> thats not what im looking for, idleone...I wonder who posted the link?
[21:41] <mskut> was it you, perhaps? :p
[21:41] <cryptopsy> binyassin: Yes?
[21:42] <binyassin> ه ىثثي اثمح
[21:42] <IdleOne> mskut: no it wasnt but if your looking for a mac os type theme those links will help you
[21:42] <cryptopsy> ceil: How does it lock up?
[21:42] <cryptopsy> ceil: Check dmesg
[21:42] <binyassin> I NEED  help
[21:42] <fahad> binyassin: arabic ?
[21:42] <_WildBill_> lakis1982: Im pretty sure you have to reinstall xp in ahci mode. But this isn't the place for that.
[21:42] <Gnea> !helpme | binyassin
[21:42] <mskut> IdleOne: I'm trying to get a certain theme to work, which someone posted like 10mins ago
[21:42] <cmp> Gnea, http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=7156
[21:42] <binyassin> how i could install rpm on ubuntu
[21:42] <buch> Im borred.. anyone got something interresting to do with ubuntu?
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !ot | buch
[21:43] <bucky> binyassin, use alien
[21:43] <binyassin> yes egyptian
[21:43] <mskut> who posted this link? http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[21:43] <ceil> cryptopsy, audio/video freezes up, and it doesn't accept input from kb/m. doesn't dmesg only track things starting at boot? or does it carry over?
[21:43] <purvesh> any one know about customising in partition in ubuntu?????? ,purvesh
[21:43] <Gnea> !rpm | binyassin
[21:43] <Myrtti> purvesh: what do you mean, customising?
[21:43] <cryptopsy> !patience|binyassin
[21:43] <ceil> cryptopsy, it's literally like time freezes as far as my PC is concerned when it locks up. i have to hard-restart
[21:43] <Dezine> Is there a program that lets me control program specific volume?
[21:43] <Hydrid> how to see my ip ? not the lan the internets ip
[21:43] <cryptopsy> ceil: Upgrade kernel and drivers.
[21:43] <prince_jammys> mskut: fahad did.
[21:44] <fahad> huh ? !
[21:44] <cryptopsy> ceil: No. Its only X11 and whatever WM you're using
[21:44] <Trijntje> cmp: I think you will have to compile that program yourself. That might be a problem if your new to linux
[21:44] <cryptopsy> ceil: That means keyboard and mouse too.
[21:44] <prince_jammys> fahad: mskut> who posted this link? [39]->http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[21:44] <ceil> cryptopsy, i suck with custom kernel installs, but i upgrade to the highest in the repos. only driver i know to try is graphics, and i've tried with both fglrx and the radeon one. and i figured it was only affecting X, but without kb i can't go to tty to restart it.
[21:45] <cryptopsy> fahad: Did you figure out how to make the ubuntu logos brighter and more fluorescent? Because I would really like to know how to do that ...
[21:45] <purvesh> Myrtti, i mean by mistakely i had given space at /usr.... 30gb so i want that at my /home
[21:45] <cmp> Trijntje, yes iam very new in linux
[21:45] <cryptopsy> ceil: upgrade Xorg
[21:45] <ceil>   Installed: 1:7.4~5ubuntu18
[21:45] <ceil>   Candidate: 1:7.4~5ubuntu18
[21:46] <cryptopsy> ceil: What about the ati drivers?
[21:46] <prince_jammys> ati == headache
[21:46] <cryptopsy> ceil: Try downgrading X to -server to 1.6.3
[21:46] <cryptopsy> i mean xorg-server
[21:46] <Trijntje> cmp: you will have to learn a lot if you want to install that program. You should start with reading everything on that link you posted and understand it. This is not something we can easily help you with
[21:46] <ceil> cryptopsy, i actually haven't installed them yet (this is a persistent problem between debian and ubuntu installs - it may even be hardware)
[21:46] <mskut> have anyone done this in Jaunty? http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[21:47] <Gnea> cmp: hrm, looks like it was added in 2004 and it's only version 0.2 - so it hasn't been developed much at all
[21:47] <ceil> cryptopsy, is there a nice apt-friendly way to downgrade? :x
[21:47] <cryptopsy> cmp: Yes, linux requires intense training to reap the benefits of typing up your homework in command line, or connecting your favorite counter-strike server using a "script"
[21:47] <cryptopsy> ceil: Just select a lower version?
[21:47] <cmp> cryptopsy, so you want to say this program is not exist for linux ?
[21:47] <cryptopsy> ceil: Package manager pulls in its dependancies
[21:48] <Gnea> cmp: seriously, the last changelog entry is dated:  2004-04-05 14:16  er241
[21:48] <purvesh> Myrtti, hello......?
[21:48] <cryptopsy> ceil: What program? I don't remember speaking with you.
[21:48] <ceil> cmp, what program? he doesn't remember speaking with you.
[21:48] <bee> hello!
[21:49] <cryptopsy> bee: Bonjour, comment-ca va?
[21:49] <Hydrid> HOW cani see my internet ip not my router?
[21:49] <cmp> ceil, iam looking for bluephone program
[21:49] <mupa> Q: im trying to rsync from a windows share to a backup in my home folder but rsync says that the connection cannot be established, even though nautilus opens the share fine. how do i resolve this?
[21:49] <cryptopsy> Hydrid: moanmyip.com
[21:49] <Gnea> ceil: bluephone, it's a gnome-based bluetooth phonebook program that someone started about 5 years ago and promptly dropped
[21:49] <cryptopsy> mupa: Depends what the problem is - check error logs.
[21:49] <ceil> Gnea, oh
[21:50] <guntbert> Hydrid: if you are behind a router you have no "internet IP"
[21:50] <cmp> gnea, what do you mean Gnea
[21:50] <Gnea> ceil: but it only made it to 0.2 before it became "abandonware"
[21:50] <mupa> cryptopsy: it says connection refused
[21:50] <jcinkalpha> com
[21:50] <ceil> Gnea, as often happens with independent projects
[21:50] <purvesh> Myrtti, what happen busy ....?
[21:50] <Gnea> cmp: what I mean is, the program itself was never taken very far. At best, it's probably very buggy and will likely crash on a modern system, as well as a 5-year old system
[21:50] <audioteknika> my usb keyboard isn't working.. how come ?
[21:51] <cryptopsy> mupa: So check your other machine for logs of attempted entry.
[21:51] <erico> msg <erico> Olá!
[21:51] <Gnea> ceil: now and then, yes
[21:51] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Check dmesg.
[21:51] <mupa> cryptopsy: ok ill try thanks
[21:51] <audioteknika> what is dmesg ?
[21:51] <Gnea> ceil, cmp: i'm checking it out now
[21:51] <cryptopsy> mupa: Might have to have a daemon running - this would be the case if it was ssh.
[21:51] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Its like a small tiger
[21:51] <purvesh> Myrtti, pls.. help me.........!
[21:51] <Gnea> audioteknika: it's a program that lists all of the kernel debugging information - it basically tells you what's up with your system and if there are any errors or not
[21:51] <cmp> Gnea, oh ok  - do you know any other program could do the same ?
[21:51] <josvuk> how to find out which soundcard/chip is builtin on my powerbook. from ubuntu9.04ppc?
[21:51] <fahad> cryptopsy : iam new in linux world :)
[21:51] <ceil> audioteknika, man dmesg
[21:52] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Actually its more like a giant snail ... do "dmesg" in terminal
[21:52] <Thingymebob> Hydrid: From the command line: wget -q -O - checkip.dyndns.org|sed -e 's/.*Current IP Address: //' -e 's/<.*$//'
[21:52] <guntbert> cryptopsy: don't post *that* link in here - http://www.whatsmyip.org/ would be better suited
[21:52] <cryptopsy> fahad: It doesn't sound like that's the only world you're new in - what do you want from me?
[21:52] <Gnea> cmp: multisync
[21:52] <cryptopsy> guntbert: I'm sorry, it seemed pg-13 to me.
[21:52] <audioteknika> ill try
[21:52] <Kheops> hi !
[21:52] <Hydrid> Thingymebob: and what that does? :)
[21:52] <Gnea> !info multisync
[21:52] <cmp> gnea, is it the same ?
[21:53] <cryptopsy> Kheops: Hello friends, would you like a beer?
[21:53] <Kheops> can someone help me to set up my network and to share the internet conexion ?
[21:53] <Gnea> cmp: looks like a highly-advanced form of bluephone
[21:53] <fahad> oh i just want to hide the icons in the commanndbox not in the top
[21:53] <guntbert> cryptopsy: whats pg-13?
[21:53] <fahad> not ubuntu icon
[21:53] <Gnea> cmp: it's possible that bluephone was the beginning of multisync
[21:53] <cryptopsy> guntbert: Its a movie rating advisory. pg-13 movies require children to be over 13 to watch the content.
[21:53] <prince_jammys> guntbert: a MPAA movie rating.
[21:53] <ceil> guntbert, american film rating. "parental guidance suggested for children under 13"
[21:53] <cmp> gnea- can you give me a link for it and guide me how to install it
[21:53] <cmp> ?
[21:54] <Thingymebob> Hydrid: It asks dyndns.org for your request details then filters the response with sed so as it only displays your public IP address
[21:54] <Hydrid> ok :) thanks
[21:54] <Gnea> cmp: it's pretty simple - open a terminal and type:  sudo apt-get install multisync  ( btw, I found it by typing this:  apt-cache search bluetooth book )
[21:54] <matrix_> is there any way to bypass rapidshare time limit
[21:54] <StateS> bucky, I think I know what's wrong... I believe that the bootloader was installed to another drive...
[21:54] <cryptopsy> matrix_: H4X.
[21:54] <Gnea> matrix_: buy an account.
[21:54] <prince_jammys> matrix_: come on, this is ubuntu help.
[21:55] <audioteknika> dmesg
[21:55] <matrix_> ok
[21:55] <audioteknika> didnt work
[21:55] <matrix_> sorry guys
[21:55] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: sudo it.
[21:55] <audioteknika> ok
[21:55] <matrix_> no i dont want to buy it
[21:55] <bucky> StateS, ic.. common mistake
[21:55] <ceil> matrix_, then deal with it or don't use the service.
[21:55] <Gnea> matrix_: then be patient and ask elsewhere
[21:55] <matrix_> ok
[21:55] <matrix_> folks
[21:55] <fahad> cryptopsy , oh i just want to hide the icons in the commanndbox not in the top
[21:55] <StateS> bucky, the problem is that I never specified such, i set the drive to the one that I wanted to use...
[21:55] <josvuk> is there a command like lshw which lists more hardware than lshw?
[21:55] <cryptopsy> matrix_: Just torrent your porn, I know torrents have a bad rep for speed but now when 500 people are sharing our favorite classics, such as "Backdoor Sluts 9"
[21:55] <prince_jammys> zero respect for channel topic.
[21:56] <ceil> josvuk, ...what hardware?
[21:56] <audioteknika> sudo dmesg didnt work too.. bleh.. it works perfectly before booting and in windows
[21:56] <Gnea> josvuk: lshw lists it all.
[21:56] <cryptopsy> fahad: Edit your toolbar - I don't know what the gnome one is.
[21:56] <ceil> josvuk, lshw lists everything - even buses you aren't using
[21:56] <StateS> bucky, any way to change the booting drive? fdisk command? tried installing partition manager for kde in live cd, didn't work...
[21:56] <theatro> josvuk, there is also hwinfo but
[21:56] <guntbert> cryptopsy: prince_jammys ceil: thanks all :-)
[21:56] <cryptopsy> fahad: Google to find where the config file for it is.
[21:56] <Gnea> josvuk: of course, it's not going to show you every diode
[21:56] <theatro> lol Gnea
[21:56] <Gnea> :)
[21:56] <bucky> States.. i don't mess with peoples mbr's
[21:56] <cryptopsy> josvuk: lspci -vv
[21:56] <fahad> cryptopsy , i will try to find now
[21:57] <audioteknika> the keyboard doesnt work after grub has loaded
[21:57] <bucky> States.. i leave that fun up to the individual
[21:57] <cmp> Gnea, i done what you said --- how i can find it on my system now ?
[21:57] <guntbert> cryptopsy: but still - lets keep it family friendly :-)
[21:57] <audioteknika> any idea ?
[21:57] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Yes - you're HAL or your xorg drivers are b0rken.
[21:57] <Gnea> cmp: check the menus under Applications
[21:57] <audioteknika> why means ?
[21:57] <cryptopsy> guntbert: Ok, i'll tone it down a notch to C8, for all the 8 year olds in this room.
[21:58] <audioteknika> i need to reinstall ?
[21:58] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Just those packages - check the logs.
[21:58] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Did you check dmesg?
[21:58] <Kheops> can someone help me to set up my network and to share the internet conexion ? ?!
[21:58] <Kheops> ?!
[21:58] <cmp> Gnea, i found it - please tell me how to make it work - iam really new in linux - so make it easier for me please
[21:58] <Gnea> !ics | Kheops
[21:58] <cryptopsy> Kheops: How do you want me to help you?
[21:58] <audioteknika> it says something about the cable
[21:58] <StateS> bucky, :P Trying to use partition manager now, it finally loaded... lol
[21:59] <audioteknika> could be damaged
[21:59] <audioteknika> lol
[21:59] <Gnea> cmp: I've never used it, so I'm sorry, I can't
[21:59] <guntbert> cryptopsy: :-)
[21:59] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Thank you. That was highly uninformative.
[21:59] <Gnea> cmp: but if you look in the /usr/share/doc/multisync/ directory, there should be some help there
[21:59] <Kheops> cryptopsy : tell me step by step how to do it ?
[21:59] <Gnea> cmp: also try About->Help
[21:59] <audioteknika> ok.. well
[21:59] <audioteknika> wait
[21:59] <cryptopsy> Kheops: First step is stop being a child, second step is read the link given to you, third step is come back with specific questions and precise details.
[22:00] <cryptopsy> Good luck ^_^
[22:00] <Gnea> Kheops: those websites tell you step-by-step how to do it.
[22:00] <cryptopsy> Gnea: But the websites won't be there to hold his hand.
[22:00] <josvuk> lshw and lspci don't lists my builtin soundchip
[22:00] <cryptopsy> Kheops: Its a hard step in life, but we at #ubuntu have total faith in you.
[22:00] <Gnea> cryptopsy: sure they will
[22:01] <Psi-Jack_> josvuk, It should. If it exists.
[22:02] <josvuk> Psi-Jack: Hm, it exists but ...... :-(
[22:02] <firecrotch> cryptopsy: surely your point can be expressed in a nicer way
[22:03] <cryptopsy> firecrotch: I don't have insurance covering damage in the form of a big "f*** you" to my face.
[22:03] <Gnea> firecrotch: pretty sure that was about as nice as it gets... please don't egg people on.
[22:03] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: behave
[22:04] <cryptopsy> firecrotch: Myrtti: I suggest you ask me to leave if you feel this will truncate the problem.
[22:04] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: mind your language, even obfuscated bad language is still what it is
[22:04] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: Have you made your decision yet?
[22:04] <Gnea> cryptopsy: just /ignore him
[22:04] <Myrtti> Gnea: excuse me?
[22:04] <Gnea> cryptopsy: or go AFK for awhile and chill
[22:04] <firecrotch> Gnea: "Stop acting like a child" is hardly appropriate when someone is asking for help
[22:04] <Gnea> Myrtti: ?
[22:04] <cryptopsy> firecrotch: Are you thick?
[22:04] <CyberCr33p> does someone know why "USB Startup Disk Creator" doesn't create bootable memory stick?
[22:05] <Saiki> Bluey. you around?
[22:05]  * Psi-Jack_ blinks,
[22:05] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: I'm asking you to mind your language and behave like and adult. Start from yourself first.
[22:05] <Psi-Jack_> Okay.
[22:05] <cryptopsy> firecrotch: Or were you not paying attention - the latter is excusable.
[22:05] <DukeD> sebsebseb: Michalxo: guntbert: bucky: thanks for your help. i got it working with 2 commands: sudo apt-get install build-essential and sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[22:05] <ejv> !relax
[22:05] <Myrtti> Gnea: who are you telling him to ignore?
[22:05] <Psi-Jack_> First of all. ALL OF YOU, grow up and stop fighting. ;)
[22:05] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: I find it ironic that you are making this statement - being the one who is unaware of the situation.
[22:05] <Gnea> Myrtti: anyone that's getting on his nerves.
[22:05] <Myrtti> Gnea: in general it's a bad advice to tell people to ignore the ops
[22:06] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[22:06] <Gnea> Myrtti: +aside from ops
[22:06] <ShapeShifter499> how do I share a folder in ubuntu?
[22:06] <cryptopsy> Gnea: The best way to deal with ops is to help them understand - since they are on and off the majority of the time - often dealing with serious issues elsewhere.
[22:06] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: right-click on the folder and click 'share'
[22:06] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: I saw you use foul language, and that's what I'm dealing with
[22:06] <ShapeShifter499> and what about a password?
[22:06] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: I'll deal with the rest later
[22:06] <Gnea> cryptopsy: I suggest you listen to Myrtti.
[22:06] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: Please point out the foul language.
[22:07] <bigdavejoker> I'm hoping to find assistance getting ekiga to work with 9.04 64 bit.  I have an integrated video camera that is supported by the uncvideo driver ekiga crahses everytime I launch the camera
[22:07] <audioteknika> my usb keyboard isnt working
[22:07] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: I am willing to fully cooperate with your request.
[22:07] <ShapeShifter499> ??
[22:07] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: the word starting with letter f would be an obvious choice. If you want to discuss the handling of the behaviour of this channel, you can always join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it further
[22:07] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: password?
[22:07] <ShapeShifter499> yea how do I make a password for the shared folder?
[22:08] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: Oh that one. Okay.
[22:08] <ShapeShifter499> so just ppl I know can use the share
[22:08] <audioteknika> in synaptic I have the headers installed cryptospy
[22:08] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: that can be done with samba. the right-click method is for more temporary sharing.
[22:08] <Gnea> !samba | ShapeShifter499
[22:08] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: I was confused because I had a baby telling me not to call a baby a baby.
[22:08] <audioteknika> how come your command doesn't work ?
[22:08] <ejv> i think ignoring someone who is irritating you is a wonderful idea, there's no direct way to see ops when their masquerading as users
[22:08] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: What kind of headers?
[22:08] <Myrtti> moving on to support questions...
[22:08] <fahad> oh yah i have other qustion about the youtube  and flash in my ubuntu
[22:08] <ShapeShifter499> ohhh......ok
[22:08] <mskut> I'm copying some files (with the GUI , not the terminal) but I don't have permission...how can I get permission? log in as root? :/
[22:08] <audioteknika> kernel headers
[22:09] <ShapeShifter499> tnx
[22:09] <ejv> s/their/they're
[22:09] <Psi-Jack_> And for me, off to home. Back in 5min. ;)
[22:09] <cryptopsy> mskut: sudo
[22:09] <Gnea> mskut: gksudo nautilus
[22:09] <bigdavejoker> mskut can you use the terminal
[22:09] <mskut> yea but
[22:09] <mskut> it doesnt work
[22:09] <mskut> as in, im probably doing it wrong
[22:09] <bigdavejoker> mskut do you know how to look at a folder to see the permissions?
[22:09] <Gnea> gksudo doesn't work?
[22:09] <cryptopsy> mskut: Are you booting from the live CD?
[22:09] <mskut> nope, im kinda new to ubuntu
[22:09] <mskut> nope, its installed
[22:10] <cryptopsy> mskut: sudo + command, or su
[22:10] <Gnea> mskut: try the gksudo nautilus, it'll let you do it in the GUI with root permission
[22:10] <mskut> what is the command to copy a file?
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[22:10] <mskut> ah k gnea
[22:10] <toyimp> What's a good partition program?
[22:10] <toyimp> for gnome
[22:10] <bigdavejoker> mskut: cp
[22:10] <IdleOne> !gparted > toyimp
[22:10] <Gnea> !gparted | toyimp
[22:10] <komputes> is there an apport hook for acpi (using ubuntu-bug or apport-collect)
[22:10] <toyimp> ty ty
[22:10] <Trijntje> mskut: can i ask what you are trying to do? perhaps its a bad idea if your new ;)
[22:11] <cryptopsy> fahad: Yes, I am currently in R3.
[22:11] <forces> hello
[22:11] <cryptopsy> forces: hello
[22:11] <forces> is there any ubuntu derivate with LXDE?
[22:11] <mskut> I'm installing a mac theme and want to copy some fonts to a new folder
[22:11] <ShapeShifter499> how do I access a tempo share on another computer?(has ubuntu)
 : i cant run youtube good
[22:11] <fahad> in ubuntu
[22:11] <cryptopsy> fahad: What do you want from me?
[22:11] <cryptopsy> fahad: define "good"
[22:11] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: do you know your ip in ubuntu?
[22:12] <forces> I wanna install ubuntu in an old pc, xubuntu is too slow, I need something lighter
[22:12] <ShapeShifter499> no...
[22:12] <Gnea> forces: try elivecd
[22:12] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: open a terminal and type: ifconfig
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[22:12] <guntbert> Trijntje: I'm back :-)
[22:12] <forces> any oficial ubuntu derivate with lxde?
[22:12] <IdleOne> forces: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[22:12] <ShapeShifter499> ok than what?
[22:12] <matt132> There is a young woman at my church whose computer is 10 years old and not working properly (I don't know what that means...i assume it means it is ten years old). While I can't very well offer her a computer, do you think an older version of ubuntu would fit the bill. (just needs basics)
[22:12] <fahad> i dont know why i have flash
[22:12] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: then take the ip and plug it into your windows explorer like this:  \\1.2.3.4\
[22:13] <ShapeShifter499> uh huh
[22:13] <ShapeShifter499> and
[22:13] <Saik> forces: try Xubuntu
[22:13] <Gnea> press enter :)
[22:13] <forces> !thanks | IdleOne
[22:13] <cryptopsy> fahad: I am unfamiliar with your yak request. As for how good windows likes it ... well you'll have to ask him because I don't think we've ever been aquainted.
[22:13] <Lint> forces: Ubuntu is slow and memory-hungry, and LXDE won't help. Try other distro
[22:13] <ShapeShifter499> than it should pop up?
[22:13] <IdleOne> will do bot
[22:13] <mskut> thnks guys, it worked when I ran nautilus as root
[22:13] <Gnea> 'should', so try it.
[22:13] <leonbrussels> forces: debian minimal and then just install whatever enviroment you want
[22:13] <mechdave> mskut,  Here is a summary of unix commands --> http://www.math.utah.edu/lab/unix/unix-commands.html
[22:13] <bigdavejoker> is there a good debug switch to use with ekiga to possibly see why it crashes everytime I open my camera?
[22:13] <ShapeShifter499> but what about on another ubuntu system?
[22:13] <cryptopsy> forces: There is likely to be a lightweight ubuntu derivative.
[22:13] <Gnea> same deal
[22:14] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: or do you mean, browsing one ubuntu with the other ubuntu?
 , its ok thanks for all
[22:14] <ShapeShifter499> yea sort of like that
[22:14] <firecrotch> bigdavejoker: If you just run ekiga from a terminal, it should provide some useful output - most programs do at least
[22:15] <bigdavejoker> firecrotch thanks I tried that got a basic dump  tried googling the error can't find anything that works
[22:15] <mechdave> matt132, We really need to know specs of that computer
[22:15] <isleshocky771> I just started using devilspie. What's the best way to get the exact geometry (coodinates) of a window on the screen?
[22:15] <jerknextdoor> i just lost all of most of my preferences in 9.04.  any idea how to get them back or troubleshoot what happened?
[22:15] <cryptopsy> bigdavejoker: google pieces of the error, whichever you deem more relevant.
[22:16] <ShapeShifter499> I have one comp with a drive hooked up by firewire and another that needs files from that drive but can not use firewire, and yes both have ubuntu on them
[22:16] <cryptopsy> bigdavejoker: seemingly random number strings are to be omitted.
[22:16] <cryptopsy> ShapeShifter499: Check dmesg.
[22:16] <firecrotch> bigdavejoker: can you pastebin the error?
[22:16] <ShapeShifter499> huh?
[22:16] <bigdavejoker> cryptopsy thanks I'll give it another try the camera is supposed to be supported and works with other programs but kills ekiga everytime
[22:16] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: in your file browser, switch it so you can type the location, and put:  smb://1.2.3.4/
[22:16] <cryptopsy> ShapeShifter499: Brb
[22:17] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Did it work?
[22:17] <audioteknika> no I get run make makeconfig
[22:17] <audioteknika> http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/c122.html
[22:17] <cryptopsy> I am not familiar with the ubuntu kernel and how it is deployed.
[22:17] <matt132> mechdave, I'm guessing it has, like, a 10gig hard drive, and 256mb of ram
[22:18] <elfranne> ping
[22:18] <The_Jag> is there a virtualization tool that permits to connect and disconnect usb devices dinamically in virtualized machine?
[22:18] <audioteknika> what should I do ?
[22:18] <bigdavejoker> Anybody heard of PWLIb assertion fail
[22:18] <cryptopsy> elfranne: pong
[22:18] <elfranne> The jag : virtualbox Non free version
[22:18] <leonbrussels> The_Jag: I think Virtualbox allows that
[22:18] <ShapeShifter499> type ip of shared comp into nautilus right?
[22:19] <ShapeShifter499> than I should be good and it will bring up all the folders shared on that ip right?
[22:19] <The_Jag> elfranne, leonbrussels: VB non free?
[22:19] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: should, yes
[22:19] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: I have decided that #ubuntu-ops would be detrimental to my progress, but your concern is somewhat appreciated.
[22:19] <ShapeShifter499> ok
[22:19] <ShapeShifter499> tnx for help Gnea
[22:19] <Xooo> How do i add a space in an alias
[22:19] <Gnea> ShapeShifter499: cheers
[22:20] <Xooo> Trying to make an alias like this (web=cd /var/www)
[22:20]  * Gnea takes a step back
[22:20] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Did you google those errors?
[22:20] <cryptopsy> Xooo: Everything in double quotes.
[22:20] <audioteknika> well.. now im in the linux-headers-2.6.8 directory
[22:21] <Glowball> The volume control in my taskbar controls 'Surround' instead of 'Master' for some reason, how can I change it back?
[22:21] <amir_> Hi why is Acroread not available in Jaunty x64 repos? How can I install it?
[22:21] <audioteknika> i did make makeconfig
[22:21] <audioteknika> now i get an error
[22:21] <mechdave> matt132, Minimum requirements for 8.04 LTS --> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[22:21] <audioteknika> even with sudo
[22:21] <ShapeShifter499> w8 the tempo share should be gone after restart or power off of my computer with the share right?
[22:21] <Guest27811> hello
[22:21] <audioteknika> no rule to make target "makeconfig"
[22:21] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: That doesn't sound like the kernel source code directory. Ubuntu might have a GUI tool for kernel building.
[22:21] <GuidMorrow> I'm using wireshark, what does a packet marked with a black background with white text mean?
[22:21] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Google for "makefile" if you're interested in what that error means - or we can skip this.
[22:21] <mechdave> matt132, That may do what you want, but check the ram and hard drive space first
[22:22] <cryptopsy> GuidMorrow: Ask in #remote-exploit.
[22:22] <audioteknika> ok
[22:22] <audioteknika> let's skip this
[22:22] <cryptopsy> GuidMorrow: Also don't break into protected networks, etc ..
[22:22] <GuidMorrow> gryptospy: now what is that supposed to mean?
[22:22] <ShapeShifter499> nvm
[22:22] <audioteknika> i already used the make command... a long time ago
[22:22] <ShapeShifter499> I g2g bye
[22:22] <cryptopsy> GuidMorrow: It means you are likely to find your answer in that channel.
[22:23] <GuidMorrow> I was looking at why my "Ethernet 1" light was flashing a lot and somehow I stumbled across to a lot of IGMP packets
[22:23] <leonbrussels> The_Jag: Not sure, haven't used it in a long time. Is there even a pay version? Or is the USB part just closed-source?
[22:23] <matt132> mechdave, thanks...is it safe to assume that an older, unsupported version would run even better on a much older computer. (We're really just talking word processing and internet)
[22:24] <audioteknika> what should i try next
[22:24] <cryptopsy> matt132: This is safe to assume.
[22:24] <Mka> hi guys
[22:24] <proq> !intel
[22:24] <cryptopsy> audioteknika: Find out how to modify your kernel and check that the right USB things are enabled.
[22:24] <matt132> cryptopsy, mechdave, thank you both :)
[22:25] <Mka> how can I make the background Terminator be transparent on Ubuntu 9.04?
[22:25] <The_Jag> leonbrussels: well actually I have the ver2.2.4 of it, installed from ubuntu 9.04 repository
[22:25] <cryptopsy> Mka: terminal or terminator?
[22:25] <mechdave> matt132, the further yo go back, the less hardware requirements you have, but I think as long as the hardware is ok I would not go any further back than 8.04. There are other distros which will run on less, eg: Damn Small Linux
[22:25] <Mka> Terminator
[22:25] <Mka> Terminal is fine
[22:25] <djanatyn> HELP
[22:25] <Myrtti> Mka: depends on if you have composite on or not, if you've got gnome or not etc
[22:26] <Myrtti> Mka: why not try to ask at #terminator :-)
[22:26] <djanatyn> I just installed ubuntu off the live CD, and now whenever I boot I get grub error 25 O_O
[22:26] <cryptopsy> !patience|djanatyn
[22:26] <se> alguien de lleida?
[22:26] <mechdave> matt132, http://distrowatch.com has most of the distros out there, maybe look there as well :)
[22:26] <Mka> Myrtti: I have compiz on
[22:26] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: Screaming at us and pounding your fist doesn't stimulate our desire to help you.
[22:26] <leonbrussels> matt132: Debian maybe? Damn small Linux is the extreme really...
[22:26] <The_Jag> leonbrussels: it is free, no sign of non-free license. only thing is: if I do a check for updates it tells me there's no upgrade avaiable but if I go to its web page it says that there's ver3.04 out!
[22:26] <prince_jammys> se: /join #ubuntu-es para ayuda en espanYol.
[22:26] <Mka> Myrtti: how can I do that?
[22:27] <Myrtti> Mka: /join #terminator
[22:27] <IdleOne> !help > djanatyn
[22:27] <The_Jag> leonbrussels: should I just throw my version out of ubuntu and use the newer one?
[22:27] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: I found a really good link in google, but I'm contemplating giving it to you.
[22:27] <djanatyn> sorry :( I'm just...nervous.
[22:27]  * djanatyn calms down.
[22:28] <cryptopsy> Brb, dinner.
[22:28] <matt132> leonbrussels, thank you i will check that out.
[22:28] <leonbrussels> The_Jag: Its worth a try. Do they have a package for ubuntu on their website? That would make it easier to install
[22:29] <leonbrussels> matt132: debian is the base ubuntu is built on, it gives you a clean, no frills desktop.
[22:29] <The_Jag> leonbrussels: yes they have .deb file
[22:29] <The_Jag> leonbrussels: I'll try it
[22:29] <djanatyn> Does anyone know about grub error number 25?
[22:30] <Mka> the #terminator channel seems to be inactive
[22:30] <orgy`> hi, can a ubuntu netbook remix usb stick be used as a "live usb stick" ..just like the cds?
[22:30] <matt132> leonbrussels...I really only know Ubuntu. (been using since 8.04) would debian and dsl be easy enough for me to set up and explain to the user how it works
[22:31] <IdleOne> djanatyn: This error is returned if an unrecognized command is entered into the command-line or in a boot sequence section of a config file and that entry is selected.
[22:32] <The_Jag> leonbrussels: is there a way to backup my virtual machine image before getting rid of old virtualbox?
[22:32] <cryptopsy> orgy`: You can install ubuntu on a usb stick and have it boot off that.
[22:33] <histo> orgy`: yes
[22:33] <orgy`> cryptopsy will it be bootable if i create it this way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR/Installation/Easy ?
[22:33] <leonbrussels> DSL is really the extreme, I would call it almost unusable. Debian with GNOME on the other hand looks just like ubuntu, except it's got a lot less things that come with it.
[22:34] <wasutton3> i am trying to run my cups server over my apache server, does anyone know how to do that?
[22:35] <matt132> did computers in 1999 have 1ghz processors on mid range computers?
[22:35] <cryptopsy> orgy`: Likely.
[22:36] <wasutton3> matt132, 1Ghz would have been very high end for that time period
[22:36] <leonbrussels> The_Jag: As I said, I have not used it in a long time, but it should tell you where it stores the images somewhere so you can make a copy
[22:36] <orgy`> ok, ill just give it a t ry, thanks ;)
[22:36] <treble54> why is the ubuntu main menu look a bit more primitive than the default Gnome 2 main menu?
[22:36] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: This sound is fantastic - my only regret is to have bought more bread - now I'm not going to be able to whipe the bowl down! What a shame ..
[22:36] <treble54> why does*&
[22:36] <cryptopsy> soup*
[22:36] <matt132> wasutton3, that's what I though. alright, thanks everyone for your help
[22:36] <djanatyn> Okay. I just installed xubuntu and rebooted. At first, I recieved a menu that let me boot XP. I tried it, successfully booted, shut down, and tried to boot again. Now, whenever I boot, it says: Drive 1 not found: Serial ATA, SATA-2. Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run setup utility.
[22:36] <wasutton3> no prob
[22:37] <djanatyn> Hitting F1 gives grub error 25. Any ideas?
[22:37] <hatter243> djanatyn, I'll bet a nickel you want to boot off of disc 0 instead of disc 1
[22:37] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: As you can tell I've got linux running all over my mind - what do you recommend I eat for desert?
[22:38] <leonbrussels> matt132: You could take a look at crunchbang Linux, I think it's based on ubuntu
[22:38] <histo> orgy`: it looks like those instructions would just have the installer on usb.  I've found posts on how to do it as a live system.
[22:38] <CaptWho> anyone have a good suggestion for a contact manager to use in an office environment?
[22:38] <hatter243> djanatyn, or that your computer is having complex disc failure
[22:38] <histo> orgy`: the directions would be the same as the ubuntu cd on a usb I assume.
[22:38] <histo> !install | orgy`
[22:38] <leonbrussels> Off now, first day of school tomorrow ;( Bye all
[22:38] <orgy`> ok thanks histo
[22:39] <guntbert> cryptopsy: please stop teasing
[22:39] <djanatyn> does anyone know how to change my boot drive from 1 to 0?
[22:39] <cryptopsy> guntbert: Excuse me?
[22:39] <djanatyn> I'm sorry - I was a little worried about losing XP.
[22:40] <wasutton3> djanatyn, that i believe is buried in the menu.lst file
[22:40] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: You will not lose XP from making changes to the boot loader.
[22:40] <Zeratul2k> hello everyone
[22:40] <hatter243> djanatyn, when you hit the grub boot loader press any key, select the stanza for the ubuntu partition and press 'e'. Then select the first line and press 'e' again. Change the bit that says (1,X) to (0,X).    (the X can be anything...)
[22:40] <cryptopsy> Zeratul2k: Hello - do you have a starcraft related question?
[22:41] <hatter243> djanatyn, if that works and Ubuntu boots properly then you'll need to edit menu.lst to fix the error. Which people can tell you about later
[22:41] <djanatyn> I tried disabling the other SATA drive, and it worked! Thank you so much :D
 soup*
 djanatyn: As you can tell I've got linux running all over my mind - what do you recommend I eat for desert?
[22:41] <cryptopsy> guntbert: Yes - is there a problem here?
[22:42] <leaf-sheep> Does anybody know if using dd to duplicate a partition will result in a exact size as the partition or much lesser? How about something like dd-backup a 120GB?
[22:42] <guntbert> cryptopsy: sorry, the last lines were an accident
[22:42] <cryptopsy> guntbert: I wasn't aware that non-vulgar free-speech had become an offense.
[22:42] <djanatyn> wait - error 25. again.
[22:42] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: Are you aware that google has a search engine? I'm not sure when it was released but I think gmail is fantastic!
[22:43] <hatter243> !ot | cryptopsy
[22:43]  * djanatyn is on a mobile phone with only IRC.
[22:43] <Zeratul2k> linux n00b with a question here: Why does NetworkManager say my WiFi signal strength is 1% to 6% (it fluctuates) even when my laptop on top of the router - literally?
[22:43] <guntbert> cryptopsy: no offense, but ....
[22:43] <cryptopsy> hatter243: Please explain to me how search engines are not support tools.
[22:44] <wasutton3> Zeratul2k, that can result because of extremely close proximity to the router. try backing off a little and see if it changes, also what is your wireless card?
[22:44] <Myrtti> cryptopsy: when helping, be helpful. Pointing people to "Google it" isn't helpful.
[22:44] <Trijntje> Zeratul2k: In theory, that might even be too close. Try a few meters away ;) Other than that, I wouldnt know
[22:44] <hatter243> cryptopsy, I will not. Do you have an ubuntu related problem? If not, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:45] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: Please search for grub error 25 in google - and then explain to me how this challenge cannot be met by someone who has figured out how to get on the internet in the first place.
[22:45] <Zeratul2k> @wasutton3: That's actually how I noticed the problem. I normally sit in the living room and the router is in the study. WinXP has normal signal (around 50%) but Ubuntu keeps disconnecting
[22:45] <larsjaaa_> Zeratul2k: maybe not hold your computer above the router, the antenna is most likely in the lid? or it might be buggy reporting from your wirelesscard
[22:45] <djanatyn> Does anyone know how to fix my problem? It came back.
[22:45] <Zeratul2k> I tried getting closer to see if it got better. It doesn't disconnects, but the signal meter says that
[22:46] <McIvor> Zeratul2k: do you know what model your wireless card is?
[22:46] <wasutton3> Zeratul2k, do you know what your wireless card is? because sometimes the driver is incomplete and would cause this
[22:46] <Zeratul2k> BTW my wireless card chipset is a Realtek RTL 8185
[22:46] <Zeratul2k> haven't had any problems with it, besides that
[22:46] <larsjaaa_> Zeratul2k: try to ping the router to test the connection speed, I guess thats what matter :)
[22:47] <jhass840> Hi, I can't seem to get postproc to work on my system.  From what I've read this seems to be a common occurrence.  Does anyone know how to fix it?
[22:47] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: Jesus helps those who help themselves. I am not religious, by far. But if he's been around for 1000's of years maybe there is some truth to it?
[22:47] <AJC_Z0> Zeratul2k: Signals tend to vary significantly for different wireless cards even when all else is the same
[22:47] <wasutton3> Zeratul2k, is it just this wireless network or is it all wireless networks. also what are your walls made of?
[22:47] <cryptopsy> Myrtti: Oops - that was off-topic, please refrain from responding to that question.
[22:48] <quentusrex> can someone help debug a network upgrade to gigabit from 100 mbit?
[22:48] <djanatyn> cryptopsy: I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking and I won't do it again. Can you help me?
[22:48] <quentusrex> My desktop is running ubuntu 9.04, and it has a gigabit port,
[22:48] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: I could, but I'd rather not enable incorrect behavior.
[22:49] <McIvor> Zeratul2k: are you using the native linux driver or the windows one?
[22:49] <wasutton3> quentusrex: what seems to be the problem?
[22:49] <quentusrex> the gigabit switch is right here, and it's connected properly.
[22:49] <Zeratul2k> @larsjaaa: Well, if it keeps disconnecting when I'm just 10 meters away, what can I ping?
[22:49] <Zeratul2k> @AJC_Z0: This is the only wireless card I have, the laptop is on dual-boot.
[22:49] <Zeratul2k> @wasutton3: I have only checked with this particular network :s
[22:49] <quentusrex> it's only connecting with 100mbit
[22:49] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: More important than getting ubuntu and all this technical mumbo-jumbo working is fixing you to learn how to use it.
[22:49] <wasutton3> Zeratul2k, try connecting to a different wireless network, if its all the wireless network its the driver, if not then something else
[22:49] <Zeratul2k> @McIvor: Native linux drivers. Ubuntu recognized it out-of-the-box and I didn't bother to mess with it, less I break something in the process...
[22:50] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: I'm sorry if that sounded overly friendly. I just can't help myself from looking out for my fellow man sometimes.
[22:50] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: But I'd appreciate it if you could help me decide between this Haagendas, or this icecream sandwidth.
[22:50] <cryptopsy> sandwitch.
[22:50] <wasutton3> quentusrex, did you use cat6? or just cat5?
[22:50] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: Its the vanilla kind. I don't like the strawberry kind it doesn't taste like an authentic strawberry.
[22:50] <Halitech> cryptopsy, Haagen das
[22:51] <cryptopsy> Halitech: Thank you. I was feeling quite liberal when I bought those.
[22:51] <guntbert> cryptopsy: if you don't want to help -- thats ok - but please don't rub it in, don't tease someone who has asked for help
[22:51] <Jimmio> Hey all. Anyone know of a way to make a virtual V4L device of my desktop? Or better yet, anyone know of software that does this but follows the mouse cursor around at a certain size? I have a 1920x1200 resolution and my friends don't... so that'd really help me.
[22:51] <cryptopsy> guntbert: Excuse me? I'm waiting for follow-ups to the situation. I'd also encourage you to try googling, practice makes perfect!
[22:51] <sebsebseb> !troll |  cryptopsy
[22:51] <djanatyn> I'm really sorry - I'm totally new to ubuntu, and it is definitely NOT gentoo.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: yeah it's easier than Gentoo, right?
[22:52] <cryptopsy> ubottu: I've helped at least 20 people in this past hour.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !bot |  cryptopsy
[22:53] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: You are aware that was for you, or should I point it out to you?
[22:53] <zanberdo> I've recently had to downgrade an application in ubuntu jaunty. I want to know how to tell apt-get/aptitude to *not* try to replace it with the upgraded version.
[22:53] <jpds> !pinning | zanberdo
[22:53] <Halitech> zanberdo, there should be an option in synaptic to pin the app so it doesn't get updated
[22:53] <zanberdo> jpds, thanks
[22:53] <djanatyn> I really don't care who helps, but could anyone help?
[22:53] <RRockon> I have a problem
[22:53] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: doesn't matter how many  people you have helped, if you annoy the ops enough,  you will get kicked and then banned probably,  as a non op  I am warning you,   I have just been through stuff  you  said to  people
[22:54] <RRockon> I have a Dual Core laptop sitting here and noone is working on it. It's very painful to see all that processing power just sitting here not being used
[22:54] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Please refrain from warning me, I am quite familiar with the rules - I also don't have any interest in what you say.
[22:54] <RRockon> Anyone has a useless program I can give it to do? Calculating Pi? Anything?
[22:54] <wasutton3> djanatyn, i would love to help, but i cant do so without more information (i.e. other network performance)
[22:54] <Halitech> RRockon, ship it to me, I'll pay shipping :)
[22:54] <RRockon> Heh
[22:54] <quentusrex> wasutton3: nvm, fixed it...
[22:54] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Except its a linux question - those are always in my interests.
[22:55] <jpds> !guidelines | cryptopsy
[22:55] <wasutton3> RRockon: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/
[22:55] <hahahan> RRockon: Seti?
[22:55] <Halitech> RRockon, what about folding@home?
[22:55] <davf> is there a way to get synaptic to ignore a broken dependency. I had to install an older version of cups-pdf because the jaunty one is broken. The program works fine but I had to force it to ignore the cups version. Now I just want synaptic to ignore the broken dependency.
[22:55] <wasutton3> i am trying to run my cups server over my apache server (so i dont have as many open ports) does anyone know how to do this, i kinda have it working with proxypass and ProxyPassRevers
[22:55] <cryptopsy> jpds: /topic works too - I find it more conveniant than copy/pasting. What say you?
[22:56] <RRockon> I know Seti, what's folding@home?
[22:56] <cryptopsy> RRockon: Its like Rosetta@home.
[22:56] <Halitech> RRockon, same idea as seti but it folds genomes for medical research
[22:56] <wasutton3> RRockon it uses computing power to compute protein folds for medical research
[22:56] <cryptopsy> It doesn't fold genomes.
[22:57] <eross> which GUI should I code with, that comes with ubuntu and other distros by default?  wxwidets, gtk+, qt4+, .. ? I'm using c/c++
[22:57] <djanatyn> I don't even care if someone just tells me how to uninstall GRUB and xubuntu - could someone walk me through it? I just want to be able to boot again :(
[22:57] <cryptopsy> This would be impossible even for biological reasons.
[22:57] <RRockon> I'll check it out
[22:57] <cryptopsy> RRockon: They also have one called fold.it - its like  game that you play and help fold the protein sequences.
[22:57] <Halitech> cryptopsy, sorry, protiens, not sure why I was thinking genomes
[22:58] <RRockon> It has to be done without user intervention, I'm still working on another machine
[22:58] <cryptopsy> RRockon: Only maintenance.
[22:58] <Denta> hi i need help sound not working
[22:58] <Halitech> RRockon, http://folding.stanford.edu/ ... I think Ubuntu has a team
[22:58] <cryptopsy> Denta: We are unable to guess your issues.
[22:59] <cryptopsy> Halitech: Benefits are not given for being in a team.
[22:59] <Halitech> djanatyn, do you have a dual boot you need repaired?
[22:59] <leaf-sheep> !detail | Denta
[22:59] <leaf-sheep> !details | Denta
[22:59] <Denta> Ihave a problem with sound
[22:59] <Denta> I have a problem with sound
[23:00] <cryptopsy> Denta: It sounds like you've got many problems.
[23:00] <larsjaaa_> Denta: what do alsamixer tell you?
[23:00] <Halitech> cryptopsy, didn't say there was any benefit to being on a team, just mentioned that there was one
[23:00] <cryptopsy> Halitech: As have I.
[23:00] <Halitech> RRockon, more details here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FoldingAtHome/Install
[23:00] <Denta> i have Kmix
[23:00] <cryptopsy> RRockon: boinc@home is far superior.
[23:01] <cryptopsy> RRockon: You can choose from at least 50 projects. SETI runs on it.
[23:01] <dellminiuser> Running 9.04 Netbook Remix on a Dell Mini 10v; it keeps disconnecting from WiFi for no apparent reason and then won't reconnect without a restart.
[23:01] <cryptopsy> Denta: Please refer to the topic and guidelines of this IRC chat.
[23:01] <guntbert> djanatyn: did you enable the "other" SATA drive again?
[23:02] <Glowball> The volume control in my taskbar controls 'Surround' instead of 'Master' for some reason, how can I change it back?
[23:02] <cryptopsy> Glowball: alsamixer
[23:02] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: be nice to people :)
[23:02] <Denta> sound driver supported  ALSA + OSS and ALSAOSS is the one used
[23:02] <cryptopsy> Denta: Try again.
[23:03] <jpds> !sound | Denta
[23:03] <leaf-sheep> |away > mechdaveZzz
[23:03] <leaf-sheep> |away > Zathara_OFF
[23:03] <n8tuser> dellminiuser-> i does not reconnect? using any wep or wpa2?
[23:03] <djanatyn> It worked at first, but now it gives error 25 again.
[23:04] <dellminiuser> WPA2
[23:04] <djanatyn> If I get onto ubuntu, can I uninstall GRUB?
[23:04] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: That error 25 is a feisty one!
[23:04] <causasui> Hi, I am connecting to the internet with a wireless NIC. Whenever I plug in an ethernet cable to connect to my closet fileserver, I lose internet connectivity. Can someone tell me how I can have both? Thanks
[23:04] <cryptopsy> causasui: I don't think its possible.
[23:04] <n8tuser> causasui-> you need to learn how to fiddle with your iptables and route table
[23:05] <causasui> Surely it must be possible, lol
[23:05] <guntbert> djanatyn: yes, I saw that, did you enable the other SATA drive again or is it still disabled? NO, don't uninstall GRUB
[23:05] <causasui> n8tuser: Can you point me in any direction where I could go about learning that?
[23:05] <netsurf3> hey i've kinda buggered up my xorg libdri for jaunty on my acer aspire one is there a good way of forcing it to reload back to stock packages?
[23:05] <cryptopsy> causasui: I think you need two devices for. You can use ifplugd to manage the two though.
[23:05] <mechdaveZzz> leaf-sheep, I no understand!!
[23:05] <n8tuser> causasui-> i dont have bookmark on a tutorial on that, but you get lucky googling for it
[23:05] <leaf-sheep> Lies.
[23:05] <causasui> cryptopsy: I'm not sure what you mean by two devices. I do have two NICs, if that's what you mean
[23:06] <Halitech> djanatyn, if you need to remove grub, you can use your windows install cd to go into the recovery and fix the mbr or you can use supergrub to manage the booting
[23:06] <djanatyn> Okay, I figured it out-whenever I go to the BIOS setup and disable/enable the drive, GRUB works. However, if I don't, it doesn't. Any ideas on how to fix this? I just got onto xubuntu - can anyone tell me how to uninstall/reinstall/fix GRUB?
[23:06] <n8tuser> causasui-> look into load balancing
[23:06] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: Or you can use lilo instead, maybe you'll get an error with a different number, which may be one you know how to fix.
[23:06] <shovon> I need help with special characters on ubuntu.
[23:06] <joe962> #nerdkits
[23:07] <jpds> causasui: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.loadshare.html
[23:07] <leaf-sheep> djanatyn: Did you read Grub page yet?
[23:07] <causasui> jpds: Thanks, bookmarked
[23:07] <SJr> How can I auto detect hardware?
[23:07] <leaf-sheep> !grub | djanatyn
[23:07] <cryptopsy> shovon: Like ... asian dialects? Or math formulae?
[23:07] <shovon> I need help getting special characters in ubuntu.
[23:07] <jpds> causasui: Consider reading bits of http://lartc.org/howto/ first.
[23:07] <cryptopsy> !patience|shovon
[23:07] <causasui> jpds thanks, will do
[23:08] <n8tuser> SJr hald does that for you, but normally you have to have a driver  loaded for such device prior
[23:08] <dellminiuser> No ideas on my wifi disconnecting issue? I've already tried searching around for help and found nothing.
[23:08] <Glowball> cryptopsy: Can't find it.. Not in the graphical interface, not in the man file...
[23:08] <shovon> Sorry, i wasn't paying attention.
[23:08] <Lrevo> hi all
[23:08] <shovon> OK, I need help with french characters.
[23:08] <SJr> n8tuser,  yeah I want something that loads all the modules, as I can't remember one of the prerequisites
[23:08] <x404x> j
[23:08] <cryptopsy> Glowball: Refresh my memory on the problem again?
[23:08] <Lrevo> I have a net limiter as: wondershaper
[23:09] <Glowball> The volume control in my taskbar controls 'Surround' instead of 'Master' for some reason, how can I change it back?
[23:09] <Glowball> (up arrow ftw)
[23:09] <n8tuser> dellminiuser-> try to set it for non auto-roaming.  so it sticks to one ssid
[23:09] <shovon> And I don't want to change my keyboard layout jut for french.
[23:09] <Lrevo> how can I set it to start at login automatically ?
[23:09] <dellminiuser> n8tuser - Can you point in the right direction for that?
[23:09] <n8tuser> Sjr well ubuntu has some defaults, but if your device is propietary or special, then you have to have it loaded via modprobe
[23:10] <n8tuser> dellminiuser-> lets try this, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[23:10] <Lrevo> any idea?
[23:10] <SJr> n8tuser,  I can't figure out what module I need to load, I guessed a few weeks ago and got it, but now it doesn't seem to work
[23:11] <n8tuser> SJr-> what device is it that you're trying to get detected?
[23:11] <dellminiuser> pastebin? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that term. I can try to find that file, though.
[23:11] <cryptopsy> dellminiuser: use wgetpaste
[23:11] <SJr> My ExpressCard slot, I know the gigabit device needs the sky2 module but it isn't coming up, for some reason it looks like the express card isn't being loaded.
[23:11] <djanatyn> could someone walk me through uninstalling xubuntu and grub?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: why Grub as well?
[23:11] <cryptopsy> Glowball: I'd rather not scroll up. I'd rather just forget about it if you prefer.
[23:11] <djanatyn> I'll install it on a different computer.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> djanatyn: download and verify the xubuntu iso, burn it slowly, install
[23:12] <djanatyn> So that I can boot Windows XP *normally*.
[23:12] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: oh you want to get rid of the whole install
[23:12] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: why?
[23:12] <djanatyn> Yeah.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> djanatyn: remember to verify the cd once booted to. if any verifications fail,. Stop and restart the whole process
[23:12] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: Windows XP is a fantastic OS!
[23:12] <Glowball> Cryptopsy: you must've missed my previous sentence: I said '(up arrow ftw)' after I up-arrowed and repeated
[23:12] <n8tuser> SJr whats an MyExpressCard for?  try  sudo -c lshal   and see if its on the list
[23:12] <Glowball> Anyway
[23:12] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: trolling?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> cryptopsy: nice nick dude \m/
[23:12] <Glowball> Cryptopsy: The volume control in my taskbar controls 'Surround' instead of 'Master' for some reason, how can I change it back?
[23:12] <Lrevo> I want to start wondershaper at start up how can I do?
[23:12] <djanatyn> I want to install it on a different, less expensive computer :)
[23:13] <cryptopsy> ActionParsnip: Haha, yea!
[23:13] <dellminiuser> I don't know what wgetpaste is either.
[23:13]  * cryptopsy highfives ActionParsnip
[23:13] <miguelonnnn> hi please 1 question: cp *.exe will copy any exe files. How can i say all (*) except  virus.exe??¿? i mean , how to make * exceptions?
[23:13] <n8tuser> !pastebin | dellminiuser
[23:13] <djanatyn> So how do I completely remove the install?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: ##windows  is the channal for Windows fan boys, and those wanting help with it
[23:13] <cryptopsy> dellminiuser: Try reading about it. Some say reading is an art  ...
[23:13] <edgarcm> Male or female?
[23:14] <SJr> n8tuser,  ExpressCard is the replacement for PCMCIA. I'm not sure what it is called, as it can hook up on PCI Express or USB.
[23:14] <sebsebseb> djanatyn:  that's easy, but why do you want to?
[23:14] <cryptopsy> Does anyone have any idea why sebsebseb is trying to diverge this conversation towards windows-ism ?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: What do you want to use XP for anyway?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !install djanatyn
[23:14] <n8tuser> SJr->  try  sudo -c lshal   and see if its on the list
[23:14] <Gnea> cryptopsy: better not to worry about it.
[23:14] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Quit mentioning windows, you might get warned for being off-topic.
[23:14] <SJr> Not sure what it is called
[23:14] <dellminiuser> Well the interfaces file only has the following:
[23:14] <dellminiuser> auto lo
[23:14] <dellminiuser> iface lo inet loopback
[23:14] <djanatyn> So that I can restore this computer back to normal, and put xubuntu on a different, less expensive computer.
[23:14] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: heh
[23:15] <Gnea> cryptopsy: it's channel policy, we support Ubuntu here. simple as that.
[23:15] <cryptopsy> Gnea: That doesn't explain why he's so interested in windows.
[23:15] <Lrevo> :(
[23:15] <Gnea> cryptopsy: let's not do this again.
[23:15] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: I am not, but you said XP was a great OS, so I was thinking maybe you should hang out in there more
[23:15] <Gnea> !guidelines > cryptopsy
[23:15] <miguelonnnn> please  i say it again hi please 1 question: cp *.exe will copy any exe files. How can i say all (*) except  virus.exe??¿? i mean , how to make * exceptions?
[23:15] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Please refrain from contacting me, second warning I'm giving to you.
[23:16] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: warnings? are you an op?
[23:16] <Gnea> cryptopsy, sebsebseb: enough.
[23:16] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: You can check yourself, or read the manpage for your IRC client.
[23:16] <jpds> Le timeout.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> djanatyn: you can resize partitions to make a dualboot if you wish but make sure your backups are up to date before undertaking
[23:18] <dellminiuser> Can anybody tell me what the code in that file means?
[23:18] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Can you please stay on topic? I don't want you to pull me off topic again ...
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> dellminiuser: can you repaste please. i missed the ouput
[23:19] <dellminiuser> auto lo
[23:19] <dellminiuser> iface lo inet loopback
[23:19] <Glowball> So... The volume control in my taskbar controls 'Surround' instead of 'Master' for some reason, how can I change it back?
[23:19] <Lrevo> i want to run a program at boot how???
[23:19] <cryptopsy> Glowball: If you use alsa sound, alsamixer will work. If it doesn't work you might have to sudo it. If there are errors report back.
[23:20] <xanderdude> is there a good thorough guide for everything that has to do with partitions on ubuntu? like, the commands to use and stuff?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> dellminiuser: that is the loopback device. it has the address 127.0.0.1 and is used so local net services can talk to each other
[23:20] <dellminiuser> Is that somehow causing my wifi to disconnect on its own?
[23:20] <Glowball> Cryptopsy: Alsamixer does work to change the volume, but I don't want to open it every time, I just want it in my taskbar
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> dellminiuser: no, it is essential for systems to work
[23:20] <cryptopsy> xanderdude: Any generic partitioning guide. I'm sure you can figure out how to find said guides.
[23:20] <Pericius> i installed .deb package but during the process, computer froze... now it complains it can't install because some files from it already exist
[23:20] <dellminiuser> So a dead end, I guess.
[23:20] <cryptopsy> Glowball: You asked me how to change it back.
[23:20] <Pericius> how to install it
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Pericius: sudo dpkg --force-all -i <deb>
[23:21] <cryptopsy> Glowball: There's Master and PCM that you need to change.
[23:21] <SJr> n8tuser, I don't see it
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> dellminiuser: when the wifi drops, run: dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[23:21] <Pericius> ActionParsnip: tried already --force, that didn't work
[23:21] <Glowball> Cryptopsy: My question is: how can I set the volume control in my taskbar to 'Master' instead of 'Surround'?
[23:22] <cryptopsy> Glowball: Modify your toolbar.
[23:22] <dellminiuser> Just to be sure: including the pipe character?
[23:22] <cryptopsy> Glowball: Google for how to do that - its specific to each taskbar.
[23:22] <puppetmaster_> What is the program like ubuntu tweak on fedora ?
[23:22] <cryptopsy> puppetmaster_: #fedora is likely to know.
[23:23] <Glowball> Ah, I found it
[23:23] <Glowball> Strange I looked over that every time I searched for it
[23:23] <n8tuser> SJr -> not listed with lshal? anything plugged in or it is just an adapter? pwered on?
[23:23] <cryptopsy> Glowball: Excellent.
[23:23] <Glowball> Thanks anyway :)
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> puppetmaster_: ask in #fedora
[23:23] <puppetmaster_> thanks
[23:23] <puppetmaster_> sorry guys :)
[23:23] <puppetmaster_> #fedora
[23:24] <nicklas_> yo
[23:24] <cryptopsy> nicklas_: Sup, homie
[23:24] <n8tuser> dellminiuser -> are you using a network manager like tool? which one?
[23:24] <nicklas_> cryptopsy: i know you? :-)
[23:24] <dellminiuser> I'm just using the default 9.04 Netbook Remix setup, whatever that uses.
[23:25] <SJr> n8tuser,  yeah it's plugged in
[23:25] <cryptopsy> nicklas_: No, but I felt compassionate to reply to you in broken, english-like, terms which you are familiar with.
[23:25] <n8tuser> SJr it probably does not recognize it, so you have to hunt for the driver
[23:25] <marcoBED> follow my twitter dudes i need more people to follow me. i am NOT SPAMMING I am just starting my shit and need more heads
[23:25] <marcoBED> http://twitter.com/telavivmarco
[23:25] <marcoBED> http://twitter.com/telavivmarco
[23:25] <FloodBot2> marcoBED: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <cryptopsy> marcoBED: Spamming and swearing.
[23:25] <dellminiuser> I'm on wired ethernet at the moment so I don't get disconnected while seeking help ;)
[23:25] <nicklas_> cryptopsy: :-P
[23:25] <n8tuser> !response | dellminiuser
[23:26] <wolf23> bruenig, wb
[23:26] <n8tuser> not that.. dellminiuser you need to prefix a nick of the person you are responding to, or else it gets missed
[23:26] <bruenig> who is this wolf23
[23:27] <smashfrog> list
[23:27] <dellminiuser> I guess I was responding to you, n8tuser, sorry.
[23:28] <guntbert> n8tuser: you wanted !prefix or !who :-)
[23:28] <hultas__> hej
[23:28] <smashfrog> anyone recommend a good site for irc commands?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> hultas__: hej svensk?  Hello Swedish?
[23:28] <guntbert> !irc | smashfrog
[23:28] <cryptopsy> smashfrog: Depends on your IRC client, ask in #irssi if you're not sure.
[23:29] <nicklas_> hultas__: hej
[23:29] <hultas__> Yep
[23:29] <smashfrog> ty
[23:29] <sebsebseb> !se |  hultas__
[23:30] <djanatyn> Thanks for all the help :P I'll go to another channel for help, or better yet, buy a new computer.
[23:31] <smashfrog> \list
[23:31] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: hold on
[23:32] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: Yes - make sure to pay for the tech-support options - its quite handy!
[23:32] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: can you repeate your issue, and ignore stupid comment such as the one  cryptopsy  just gave you
[23:32] <djanatyn> especially you, cryptopsy :(
[23:32] <miguelonnnn> please, i'll repeat it again if needed but somebody answer me :S
[23:32] <djanatyn> sure.
[23:32] <fear> hey everyone i got a big problem that i could use someones help with
[23:32] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: Try scrolling up, it was just a couple lines above.
[23:33] <cryptopsy> fear: Ok - shoot.
[23:33] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: yeah I did, but  coudn't just find it,  but if I search for your name I will
[23:33] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: uh messaged wrong one by mistake ah!
[23:33] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: wait no I didn't
[23:33] <cryptopsy> sebsebseb: 3rd warning. Now I'm going to /ignore you
[23:33] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: well I kind of did
[23:34] <sebsebseb> cryptopsy: well you set that ignore up,   maybe I am on ignore now, so you won't see this
[23:35] <djanatyn> I just installed xubuntu, and rebooted. Everything ran fine, and I booted into XP to see if it was alright. It was, so I rebooted again, to get to xubuntu. Unfortunately, I recieved GRUB error 25 and couldn't boot. After some experimentation, I figured out that I could boot into the OS choice menu by enabling/disabling the 2nd SATA drive checker in my BIOS.
[23:35] <fear> hey i got a problem
[23:35] <miguelonnnn> what problem fear
[23:35] <wers> on xchat, can i do away with the network list and just autojoin networks on startup? I want to autojoin GIMPNet and freenode. how do i do that? :)
[23:36] <djanatyn> now, I'm trying to fix GRUB so that it boots correctly without having to swap the SATA checker.
[23:36] <miguelonnnn> yeah wers, there's an do not show this again checkbox on that list window
[23:36] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: ok
[23:37] <miguelonnnn> hi please 1 question: cp *.exe will copy any exe files. How can i say all (*) except file.exe??¿? i mean , how to make * exceptions?
[23:37] <Otacon22> Wich is the best way to blacklist a module?
[23:37] <fear> can i access password files through ubuntu?
[23:37] <un1c0rn2> * means all :S
[23:37] <jpds> Otacon22: Put it into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:37] <cryptopsy> djanatyn: In the end I ended up having the ice-cream sandwitch. Gotta watch those carbs, hehe!
[23:37] <zvonkorp>  i'm getting a NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED error when doing an smbclient test - the firewall isn't showing anything denied, hosts are configured and samba daemon is set up to allow incoming connections from the appropriate hosts - i'm running ubuntu 9.x
[23:38] <miguelonnnn> yeah, nano /etc/passwd
[23:38] <dellminiuser> Right, well, suffice it to say, silly issues like wifi disconnecting and then refusing to reconnect are why I won't be switching to linux anytime soon. Goodbye.
[23:38] <sebsebseb> djanatyn: your the one that wanted to  get rid of Xubuntu,   just delete the partition from the Live CD, and use the Windows  CD to go over the last  remaining bit of Grub.   and maybe you  can  Wine  the Windows apps you  want to run.    or virtual machine  Windows inside  Ubuntu/Xubuntu with enough RAM for them
[23:38] <unop> miguelonnnn, with bash.  !(*.exe)
[23:38] <Wicked> !ntfs
[23:38] <Wicked> !NTFS-3g
[23:38] <Otacon22> jpds, i just have /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[23:38] <miguelonnnn> zvonkorp i too get an nt error when connecting to samba server with smbclient, but everyting goes fine so i don't care
[23:39] <miguelonnnn> unop, thanks, how would be the syntax to make * but file.exe?
[23:39] <wers> miguelonnnn, but how about autojoining? :)
[23:39] <Bookman> I just created dvd files with devede and it created two folders, video_ts and audio_ts.  If I burn those to a dvd, will it be playable on a dvd player?
[23:39] <zvonkorp> miguelonnnn: i'm not able to view any other computers in the workgroup though - my error may be relevant to that yes?
[23:39] <miguelonnnn> tap edit button on a selected server you want to autojoin, and check the autojoin
[23:39] <unop> miguelonnnn, you mean "everything else except file.exe", right?
[23:40] <unop> miguelonnnn,  !(file.exe)
[23:40] <fear> sorry cryptopsy
[23:40] <fear> did you get anything i said before?
[23:40] <miguelonnnn> maybe zvonkorp , i don't have access to other computers so i can't list em
[23:40] <miguelonnnn> yeah unop
[23:40] <cmp> hello, i need some help
[23:40] <sebsebseb> !ask | cmp
[23:41] <miguelonnnn> so it would be cp * !(file.exe)?
[23:41] <cryptopsy> fear: No, I completely disregarded it.
[23:41] <jpds> Otacon22: Then, there.
[23:41] <fear>  ok.... i was just messing around on my windows 2000 computer and i accidentaly changed a password file.
[23:41] <fear> i have ubuntu
[23:41] <cryptopsy> fear: I did so because I wanted everyone to see your problem - so they can also contribute to the solution.
[23:41] <unop> miguelonnnn,  well, no.   cp !(file.exe)  /path/to/destination
[23:41] <fear> i heard there was a way to access password files
[23:42] <unop> miguelonnnn,  you can test this out with echo.    echo cp !(file.exe)  /path/to/destination
[23:42] <cryptopsy> fear: Need more info. There are many password files.
[23:42] <fear> how do i get to them through ubuntu
[23:42] <Otacon22> jpds, i've already done it, but it don't work... (i'm trying to blacklist the module lp). At reboot i have to do modprobe -r lp again ...
[23:42] <cmp> sebsebseb, i wanted to configure my trancparancy on uabuntu - and i guess i did it for any - of  ( 0 ) value   - so i dont see any of my menus  .. i want to know how to restore it and re configure it again ?
[23:42] <miguelonnnn> whatt? but what would cp !(file.exe) path/ do?
[23:42] <miguelonnnn> i want make exceptions to * wildcard
[23:42] <unop> miguelonnnn,  copy all files except file.exe to path/
[23:42] <cryptopsy> fear: No one is going to advise you how to crack a windows 2000 machine with Ubuntu.
[23:42] <sebsebseb> !panels |  cmp
[23:43] <fear> is there anyway i can prove to you it is my machine and I am locked out...
[23:43] <fear> cause my dad is going to kill me
[23:43] <miguelonnnn> hmm but where's the asterisk at cp !(file.exe)?
[23:43] <cmp> ubottu, i dont see any thing to type in -
[23:43] <bruce89> it's actually gconftool-2
[23:43] <Bookman> fear: check with microsoft
[23:43] <unop> miguelonnnn,  that's what !(pattern) does .. see the extglob section in the bash manpage
[23:43] <sebsebseb> !bot |  cmp
[23:43] <miguelonnnn> ahh great! thanks unop
[23:44] <sebsebseb> cmp: yeah you need the terminal up,  of course the menu  is the way,  but  there's also a way to get it on the keyboard which is uhmm
[23:44] <cryptopsy> fear: Usually this involves resetting the password, granted you have admin privilege.
[23:44] <bruce89> alt F2
[23:44] <sebsebseb> bruce89: heh you answer me in here :D
[23:44] <cryptopsy> fear: I think you should deal with your problem head-on, and tell your father what you've done. Maybe he knows a way.
[23:44] <fear> thats the thing i cant log in.....the computer was set up to automatically log in
[23:44] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that's not right anyway
[23:45] <fear> yea maybe.......im going to still try for other options
[23:45] <sebsebseb> bruce89: well it was cmp  I was trying to help,  see above for the issue
[23:45] <keith> How can I give an autostart application a delay when I sign in?
[23:45] <bruce89> I don't know what it is, but Alt+F2 then typing the command would work (I think"
[23:45] <cmp> sebsebseb, is there any way could help me with it ?
[23:46] <unop> keith,  change the autostart command to.    sleep 10 && command
[23:46] <sebsebseb> cmp: is this correct, none of your Gnome menus show anymore?
[23:46] <sebsebseb> cmp: the panels aren't there anymore?
[23:46] <Gd515> what do you guys think of Turbo IRC  i had Xchat but im starting to like this one
[23:46] <cmp> sebsebseb, yes
[23:46] <keith> unop, I tried that. Seemed to make it so nothing autostarted
[23:47] <sebsebseb> cmp: ok you need to get the terminal the other way, bruce89  help with that :)    and then  run that command and it should work
[23:47] <unop> keith, hmm, not sure then -- I don't use gnome so I couldn't help troubleshoot here
[23:47] <bruce89> cmp: Alt+F2, then type the above command in the box thing
[23:48] <keith> unop, what do you use?
[23:48] <unop> keith, I can suggest making a script that does all this for you -- and then all you have to do is call the script
[23:48] <unop> keith, I use fluxbox
[23:48] <cmp> bruce89, what command?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> !panels |  cmp
[23:48] <keith> unop, also tried a script... but I put it in my autorun directory as well...
[23:48] <bruce89> cmp: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[23:49] <sebsebseb> bruce89: no -2
[23:49] <unop> keith, and what happens when you use a script?
[23:49] <bruce89> no, there's a -2
[23:49] <keith> unop, it did the same thing
[23:49] <sebsebseb> bruce89: not in what the bot gave
[23:49] <bruce89> it's wrong
[23:49] <unop> keith, and do you know if the script was called at all ?
[23:49] <unop> sebastien, bruce89 - either way works
[23:50] <sebsebseb> bruce89: if you say so, but   I  have used what the bot gave before to reset the panels without problems
[23:50] <keith> unop, no... i suppose I should put an output line in there so I can see
[23:50] <bruce89> unop: maybe not an all distros clearly
[23:50] <unop> keith, well, I would suggest creating a temp file or something -- because you won't see any output ..
[23:50] <keith> unop, i meant outputting to a file. :)
[23:51] <tyler_d> I am trying to run users-admin - however it states that my user doesn't have privilages - and when I run it via gksu users-admin it will not allow me to edit anything?
[23:51] <itsme> OUAAAAA LA VACHE o.o ... c'est quo ice chan de débile avec 1402 user
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !fr |  itsme
[23:51] <SJr> n8tuser, rebooting fixed it
[23:51] <unop> bruce89, on my system -- gconftool is basically a symlink to gconftool-2 (via alternatives)
[23:51] <bruce89> unop: ah, that explains it
[23:52] <unop> $ readlink -f $(which gconftool)
[23:52] <n8tuser> SJr -> cool
[23:52] <unop> /usr/bin/gconftool-2
[23:52] <teehee> how come i cant watch embedded flash videos on firefox except for youtube
[23:53] <teehee> cant play games either
[23:53] <xiong> nautilus window is not always current -- devs must have noticed this bug because they provided a 'reload' button -- most applications that write files, the changes show up right away -- but my perl script requires i hit reload, so does gimp -- why?
[23:54] <itsme> !fr teehee
[23:54] <itsme> hmm?
[23:54] <itsme> how it's work ?
[23:54] <unop> !fr | itsme
[23:54] <itsme> !fr |itsme
[23:55] <teehee> i've installed the plug in
[23:55] <teehee> how do u install a .tar.bz2 file
[23:55] <sebsebseb> !tar |  teehee
[23:55] <unop> !source
[23:55] <sebsebseb> bruce89: I know you can help more properly with the above issue
[23:55] <mneptok> teehee: is this Flash?
[23:56] <mneptok> teehee: did you install the plugin from the repos?
[23:56] <teehee> yeah
[23:56] <bruce89> sebastien: I did sort of
[23:56] <mneptok> teehee: with what command?
[23:56] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that is
[23:56] <teehee> i dont remember found it somehwere do u guys have one maybe i typed it wrong
[23:56] <sebsebseb> bruce89: yeah I meant for installing a  tar.bz2, but they got a Flash issue hmm
[23:57] <sebsebseb> teehee: did you try flashplugin-installer ?
[23:57] <sebsebseb> teehee: it downloads and installs Flash for you from Adobe
[23:57] <burf> hey guys - is there a way to change the icons on desktop folders, i can only seem to change the icon used for all folders?
[23:57] <teehee> it says newest version already installed
[23:58] <teehee> why does youtube only work
[23:58] <bruce89> installing the flash player from a tarball is asking for trouble
[23:59] <sebsebseb> bruce89: surely that depends?  ,but useually to get it from the repo
[23:59] <fsufitch> hey, question: how can i start a program with a command so that it runs independent of the program that launched it? (daemon-like)
[23:59] <bruce89> mind you, I'd say that installing Flash by any means is asking for it
[23:59] <sebsebseb> bruce89: useually better above
[23:59] <sebsebseb> bruce89: heh
[23:59] <aprilhare> i have multiple installs of firefox (3.0.x and 3.5.x for instance) - how do i merge the bookmarks or recover when i delete a particular version of firefox?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> yeah  Flash is bad really since  it's closed source nature
[23:59] <burf> can it be done in ubuntu?
[23:59] <bruce89> well, installing anything from "source" is a bit dodgy at the best of times