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| mac_v | DanRabbit1: pong | 03:18 |
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| mac_v | DanRabbit1: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Humanity.tar | 03:19 |
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| * MacSlow -> lunch | 12:28 | |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| mac_v | MacSlow: hi... have the classes sync/async been merged again? :( | 13:36 |
| MacSlow | no | 13:36 |
| MacSlow | mac_v, what makes you think that? | 13:37 |
| mac_v | hmm... both appear in the first row | 13:37 |
| mac_v | for me , | 13:37 |
| mac_v | or is it a bug? | 13:37 |
| MacSlow | mac_v, do you use notify-osd 0.9.20? | 13:37 |
| MacSlow | mac_v, and do you use the NorthEast gravity (gconf-key /apps/notify-osd/gravity == 1)? | 13:38 |
| mac_v | MacSlow: notify-osd 0.9.20 (0ubuntu1) , but didnt set any gravity , the bubbles just moved back up ad now both appear in the first row | 13:39 |
| mac_v | and* | 13:39 |
| MacSlow | mac_v, if only one comes up at a time that's currently ok | 13:39 |
| mac_v | MacSlow: aw, :( , the fixed location of the async to second row would have been better , now its almost the same old behavior :( | 13:41 |
| MacSlow | mac_v, we're considering such layout options too | 13:43 |
| mac_v | \o/ that would be great | 13:43 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| DanRabbit | mac_v: that link is a 404 :( | 14:29 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: oh! i thought you already grabbed it and moved it ;) , just a sec | 14:30 |
| mac_v | *i moved | 14:30 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Humanity.tar | 14:31 |
| DanRabbit | cool | 14:31 |
| DanRabbit | mac_v: which icons (freedesktop.org names) do these correspond to? | 14:33 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: hehe , the names are wrong , i thought you knew , was just lazy to look them up ;p | 14:34 |
| DanRabbit | oh | 14:34 |
| DanRabbit | well | 14:34 |
| DanRabbit | I'm looking at the netstatus icons, and there is many more than these | 14:34 |
| DanRabbit | :D | 14:34 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: they are 22 and 24px icons for the wired and the disconnected icons | 14:35 |
| mac_v | let me check | 14:35 |
| DanRabbit | It's okay, I can take care of it | 14:38 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: /usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/status/network-transmit-receive.png , /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/network-offline.png | 14:38 |
| mac_v | oops! /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/network-transmit.png | 14:38 |
| DanRabbit | yea, those are the ones I assigned | 14:38 |
| mac_v | hehe ;) | 14:38 |
| DanRabbit | we need network-error | 14:38 |
| mac_v | the rest are all symlinks to these | 14:38 |
| DanRabbit | network idel | 14:38 |
| DanRabbit | idle* | 14:38 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: yeah just noticed | 14:39 |
| DanRabbit | network receive | 14:39 |
| DanRabbit | and network transmit | 14:39 |
| DanRabbit | shouldn't be too hard to do from the current icons | 14:39 |
| mac_v | network-receive.png network-transmit.png , would either need different shades or could use colors | 14:40 |
| DanRabbit | I'm thinking just fading out one of the plugs | 14:40 |
| DanRabbit | use the connected plugs, but with their respective transparency | 14:40 |
| mac_v | yeah that works too :) | 14:40 |
| mac_v | for error? | 14:41 |
| mac_v | is color not allowed even for error? | 14:41 |
| DanRabbit | Well, we use red on the battery | 14:42 |
| DanRabbit | so I would think the disconnect icon, but in red | 14:42 |
| mac_v | the disconnect can stay similar to the wireless where we dont use color for the no signal , i think only error can have the red , this makes it more easy to differentiate | 14:43 |
| DanRabbit | that's what I meant :D | 14:43 |
| mac_v | hehe i think you just said the same ;p | 14:43 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: why are the battery icons blurry? , | 14:45 |
| DanRabbit | I don't know | 14:45 |
| mac_v | :( | 14:45 |
| DanRabbit | I'm thinking it's an issue with the applet | 14:45 |
| mac_v | stupid panel applets! | 14:45 |
| DanRabbit | mac_v: you should apply to join elementary icons team on launchpad and then you can just upload your icons straight to bzr | 14:46 |
| DanRabbit | :D | 14:46 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: hehe , i wouldnt go so far as to upload them directly ;) but i guess i can show and upload | 14:47 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: done | 14:50 |
| DanRabbit | cool :D | 14:50 |
| DanRabbit | brb | 14:52 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: for the inactive panel icons , at 50% transparency , for the dark panels its a bit tough to notice the difference , i think the level can be lowered ,so that it is easy to see the levels | 14:53 |
| mac_v | *see the difference in the signal/volume levels | 14:54 |
| DanRabbit | okay sounds good | 15:02 |
| DanRabbit | I have to go to school :( | 15:02 |
| DanRabbit | be back later | 15:02 |
| mac_v | sure bye ;) | 15:03 |
| SiDi | MacSlow: heya. | 15:55 |
| SiDi | Just wanted to ask you.. With that gravity setting, you now have 2 code paths for the bubble placement, right ? | 15:55 |
| MacSlow | SiDi, yes... but those will get shifted (actually are atm) around | 15:57 |
| SiDi | i see :) | 15:57 |
| SiDi | With that code written up, it would actually be trivial to add north west / west gravities, right ? :D | 15:57 |
| === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch | ||
| sintack | please help... i can't get a notify-osd to last shorter than 10 seconds. and i've tried to set the urgency to less than critical. thanks | 16:35 |
| mac_v | SiDi , ^ any thoughts? | 16:40 |
| SiDi | I dont think the default time is configurable yet :p | 16:41 |
| SiDi | ask MacSlow :p | 16:41 |
| SiDi | Does anyone know the IRC nick of Scott James Remnant and which channels i may find him, please ? | 16:43 |
| sintack | oh.. so a confirmation bubble, like volume change, stays there for 10 seconds? at this point in time? | 16:43 |
| SiDi | volume change goes after 1/2 seconds | 16:43 |
| SiDi | what version do you use, sintack ? | 16:43 |
| SiDi | (/me found the nick, sorry for the noise) | 16:44 |
| sintack | i'm using 0.9.18-1, the one in debian testing | 16:44 |
| SiDi | sintack: may you try with 0.9.19/20 or with the bzr trunk (bzr co lp:notify-osd) ? | 16:44 |
| SiDi | Confirmation bubbles do last 3 seconds, apparently | 16:45 |
| sintack | yes, i could try. | 16:45 |
| SiDi | as for normal bubbles, i'm not sure of the current status but they're meant to last more if there is a lot of text, but i think the default is about 10 secs | 16:45 |
| sintack | ah, i see. well i read in the specs that a low-urgency normal bubble can last 5, or shorter, i think | 16:46 |
| sintack | and besides, doesn't the tool like "notify-send" allow you to set the expiration time? | 16:46 |
| SiDi | You're right | 16:47 |
| SiDi | 5s + 250ms / line of body text | 16:47 |
| SiDi | it looks like this is not fully implemented | 16:47 |
| SiDi | and, notify-osd will ignore timeout parameters from applications | 16:47 |
| sintack | i understand | 16:47 |
| SiDi | because this was heavily abused by some apps | 16:47 |
| sintack | i've come across a site that confirms this problem for debian official repo. users. | 17:00 |
| sintack | anyhoo, thanks for the replies SiDi. perhaps i'll try or wait for later versions. | 17:02 |
| SiDi | sintack: could you please file a bug, though ? | 17:03 |
| SiDi | specifying that the problem occurs with the debian package ? | 17:03 |
| SiDi | i didnt see any such bug in launchpad | 17:03 |
| sintack | so, i'll file it in launchpad? | 17:03 |
| SiDi | Yes, and link it to debian's bugzilla please | 17:03 |
| SiDi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/notify-osd/+filebug | 17:03 |
| sintack | ok, i've never filed a bug before :P; i'll try | 17:04 |
| SiDi | do you have the link to the debian bug report ? :) | 17:04 |
| sintack | yeah, i guess | 17:04 |
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| chrisccoulson | MacSlow - has the interface for volume notifications changed in notify-osd at all recently? (as in, the last 3 weeks or so) | 20:17 |
| SiDi | chrisccoulson: what do you mean ? | 20:23 |
| SiDi | Regarding over/undershoot volume notifications ? | 20:23 |
| chrisccoulson | SiDi - yes | 20:23 |
| SiDi | Well, you have to use -1 for under / 101 for over | 20:24 |
| chrisccoulson | SiDi, thanks. it seems gnome-settings-daemon is already doing that | 20:24 |
| SiDi | but i think trunk notify-osd is broken in that regard :P | 20:24 |
| chrisccoulson | the only reason i ask, is because i got assigned to bug 419645, and was wondering what needed updating | 20:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 419645 in gnome-settings-daemon "Update to 2.27.91" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419645 | 20:24 |
| chrisccoulson | but it seems like nothing needs changing on the g-s-d side at the moment | 20:25 |
| SiDi | may i see that patch file please ? :P | 20:25 |
| SiDi | apparently its ok. under/overshoot is disabled in notify-osd for now, i dont know when it'll be put back | 20:25 |
| SiDi | but if you use -1 for under and 101 for over then it's ok, it should work | 20:25 |
| chrisccoulson | SiDi - cool. i've got to go for dinner now, i'll get you the patch afterwards if that's ok (if you haven't already found it) | 20:26 |
| chrisccoulson | but yeah, g-s-d already uses -1,+101 | 20:26 |
| SiDi | it should be fine then | 20:27 |
| SiDi | i'm leaving to a party right now though | 20:27 |
| SiDi | have a nice dinner :p | 20:27 |
| MacSlow | chrisccoulson, SiDi: no... it's a regression in notify-osd (from the blur-/tile-cache work) I still need to fix | 20:33 |
| SiDi | MacSlow: but once it'll be fixed, itll be -1 & 101 right ? :P | 20:33 |
| MacSlow | SiDi, sure -1 and 101 are still the "trigger"-values | 20:34 |
| SiDi | okies | 20:34 |
| SiDi | i needa go | 20:34 |
| SiDi | have a nice evening :) | 20:34 |
| MacSlow | I should call it a day too | 20:34 |
| MacSlow | SiDi, see you later | 20:34 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| mac_v | tedg: hi! , i'v been waiting for you ;) | 22:07 |
| mac_v | a few doubts regarding the mail notifications | 22:07 |
| mac_v | in the i-a | 22:07 |
| tedg | mac_v: Waiting? | 22:08 |
| mac_v | hehe , yeah ;p , i wanted to write a mail to ayatana , but wanted to confirm a few things first :) | 22:08 |
| mac_v | you said that selecting the app when a new mail arrives , will change the icon back to "no new mail", right? | 22:09 |
| mac_v | this is irrespective of the mail being read or not , | 22:09 |
| mac_v | tedg: what happens if the user has new mail in evolution and new chat in empathy? selecting evolution will change the icon back to "no new mail" ? | 22:11 |
| mac_v | or will the apps be considered separately? | 22:11 |
| tedg | mac_v: The apps are considered separately. | 22:11 |
| mac_v | if new mail is in evolution and new chat in empathy , so if user selects evolution , the icon is changed to "no new" instantly or only after empathy is also selected? | 22:12 |
| tedg | After Empathy is also selected. | 22:13 |
| tedg | Basically each indicator can or can not set the notification to the user. When all the indicators that set the green dot are removed, then it goes away. | 22:14 |
| mac_v | tedg: but the dot depends on the app being selected or not...... and not the mails being read or not | 22:15 |
| mac_v | is it difficult to keep the dot on until all the mail are read? | 22:15 |
| tedg | That is based on the implementation of the application. The messaging menu does not control that directly. | 22:16 |
| tedg | We think that applications should only use it for "new information" so if I have 1000 unread mail in my mailbox, it shouldn't remain lit. | 22:16 |
| tedg | But if I get 10 more since I last checked, then light it up. When I look at the app I've chosen whether to ignore those or not. | 22:17 |
| tedg | Likewise if someone IMs you it should go away when you look, not when you respond. | 22:18 |
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| mac_v | tedg: hmm... what i find from using it is ,... i read mail in certain folders when they arrive , since i want to read them now , but certain folders i read later , so the lack of "no new" is kinda misleading :( | 22:19 |
| mac_v | its like i have to remember i havent read those mails | 22:19 |
| tedg | mac_v: Well, the idea would be that you could select the folders that it responds to. Hopefully, we can get that implemented for Karmic, but that is harder. | 22:19 |
| tedg | mac_v: Evolution has a pretty difficult layout for mail folders. | 22:20 |
| mac_v | yeah | 22:20 |
| mac_v | tedg: just an idea ... maybe the icon on the panel turns to "no new" but when the user selects the drop down , the folders still show as "5new" , is that possible... or is that what you are trying to implement? | 22:22 |
| tedg | mac_v: That's not impossible. That wasn't the original idea, but I think that's definitely interesting. | 22:22 |
| mac_v | or does such an implementation need plugins in the apps? | 22:23 |
| tedg | mac_v: I'm curious about the number of entries then, the idea was that they'd cycle... then they'd become more permanent. | 22:23 |
| tedg | Everything needs a plugin in the apps :) That's what evolution-indicator is for Evolution. | 22:24 |
| tedg | I believe that the KMail support is a patch though. That would be a question for agateau as he did that work. | 22:24 |
| mac_v | hehe ;) , i meant in other apps too | 22:24 |
| mac_v | tedg: when is the applet expected , to be complete ? i know stupid question...! or is it possible to use upstream version and test it? | 22:26 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| tedg | mac_v: You can grab it, but it's not entirely complete yet. I have the library changes in code review now, then I'm getting cracking on the applet. I'll be in trouble if it's not by the end of the week :) | 22:27 |
| mac_v | great, \o/ | 22:27 |
| mac_v | not that you'll be in trouble , but the applet will be done by this week ;p | 22:28 |
| mac_v | i'm planning on looking into xchat and messaging menu , so if it lands soon enough , i'd start looking into it ;) | 22:29 |
| tedg | You're welcome to grab my version of the lib. | 22:45 |
| tedg | Everything else will be just the props in the spec. | 22:45 |
| tedg | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu | 22:45 |
| mccann | hey guys | 22:47 |
| mccann | just wondering - what is the state of the wallpaper contest thing? | 22:48 |
| DanRabbit | mac_v: did you do those wired network icons, or do I need to do them? | 22:51 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: which icons...huh? the error? | 22:52 |
| DanRabbit | yea and the transmit and receive and all that | 22:52 |
| mac_v | oh , just a few mins :) | 22:53 |
| DanRabbit | :D | 22:53 |
| DanRabbit | mac_v: I have to leave for work in just a few short minutes. Can you add those icons to lp:humanity? I've approaved your membership. | 23:15 |
| mac_v | ok , no probs :) | 23:16 |
| DanRabbit | cool ty | 23:20 |
| DanRabbit | bye | 23:20 |
| mac_v | DanRabbit: push to branch , the icons are labeled according to gnome , and the network-offline was a symlink to a wireless no signal , but the gnome is for a wired , so changed it accordingly | 23:54 |
| mac_v | mccann: regarding the wallpaper contest you need to ask in #ubuntu-artwork | 23:55 |
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