| sbalneav | Evening all | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| LaserJock | holy cow, real internet! | 03:06 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock!!!! | 03:11 |
| sbalneav | WB | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | I finally got internet | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | after ~ 3 weeks of no internet on my linux machine | 03:12 |
| sbalneav | Coolio. | 03:12 |
| sbalneav | Want an update? | 03:12 |
| sbalneav | How did the move go | 03:12 |
| LaserJock | still sort of in progress | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | wife, pets, and a car load of stuff is here | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | but thursday the rest of our stuff arrives | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | geeze | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | I'm getting 24Mb/s down and 4Mb/s up | 03:14 |
| sbalneav | You've got everything you love there, the rest is just stuff | 03:14 |
| sbalneav | that's not bad. | 03:14 |
| LaserJock | that's like 10x better than what my old internet was | 03:15 |
| sbalneav | Cool! | 03:16 |
| sbalneav | So, We'll expect 10 times the work out of you, right? BWHAHAHAHAHAHA | 03:17 |
| sbalneav | Nah, you're working hard enough. | 03:17 |
| sbalneav | So, we have a working sabayon | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, stuff is crazy here | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I read something about that | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | as in, really really working? | 03:17 |
| sbalneav | http://ltspthinclient.blogspot.com/ | 03:18 |
| sbalneav | yep. | 03:18 |
| sbalneav | Boots, edits profiles, applies them. | 03:18 |
| sbalneav | I | 03:18 |
| sbalneav | I've branched the edubuntu handbook, and started work on that. | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | excellent | 03:20 |
| LaserJock | brb, gotta set up wireless router | 03:22 |
| alkisg | Good morning | 06:15 |
| highvolt1ge | good morning alkisg! | 09:06 |
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| mhall119|work | morning | 13:48 |
| nubae | hi mhall119|work | 13:56 |
| nubae | mhall119|work: can I entice u to give up some of your free time on helping create some moodle courses here: linux-for-education.org... I've created 2 ubuntu specific ones already, and am on a third one... but it needs even more loving... | 13:57 |
| mhall119|work | nubae: if I had free time to give I would | 14:05 |
| nubae | I know the feeling... I have to try and get involvement somehow | 14:05 |
| mhall119|work | what kind of courses are you looking for? | 14:05 |
| nubae | each course takes about 5-10 minutes to create | 14:06 |
| mhall119|work | nubae: my problem is that I'm too involved in too many things | 14:06 |
| nubae | but anything from, how to install chrome on Ubuntu | 14:06 |
| nubae | or how to get LTSP working on ubuntu | 14:06 |
| nubae | how to set up LDAP with nfs on ubuntu | 14:06 |
| nubae | there are tons and tons of courses that would be helpful | 14:06 |
| nubae | I've created 2 really general ones to give u an example | 14:07 |
| nubae | take a look | 14:07 |
| mhall119|work | does it have to be Ubuntu related? | 14:07 |
| nubae | the beautify one is actuallly really cool to follow | 14:07 |
| nubae | not at all | 14:07 |
| nubae | its everything Linux and edu | 14:07 |
| mhall119|work | cause I know a lot of English teachers | 14:07 |
| nubae | in fact... the project is hosted by Novel | 14:07 |
| nubae | excellent | 14:08 |
| nubae | that would be even better content | 14:08 |
| nubae | take a look at the categories | 14:08 |
| nubae | We are trying to make it the place to go to if u want a course of any kind in various languages even | 14:08 |
| mhall119|work | I'll pass the link along to all my educator friends | 14:08 |
| nubae | ok, if they need admin access... have the email me | 14:08 |
| mhall119|work | I'll also pass it around my LoCo | 14:09 |
| nubae | dvanassche @ gmail dot com or its on my web: nubae.com | 14:09 |
| nubae | the cool thing is, we have this free space by Novell, a good looking moodle site, and tons of possibilities | 14:09 |
| mhall119|work | do they need admin access to create courses? | 14:09 |
| nubae | its a shame to let it just sit there | 14:09 |
| nubae | to create a course yes | 14:09 |
| nubae | to follow it no | 14:10 |
| mhall119|work | ok | 14:10 |
| nubae | otherwise it would be abused pretty badly by spammers | 14:10 |
| mhall119|work | ubuntu-fl.org has a couple tutorials on it already, I'll see if I can get the author of them to make a moodle course from it | 14:10 |
| mhall119|work | you should see about converting the Ubuntu Developer Week classes into moddle courses | 14:10 |
| mhall119|work | have you talked to dholbach? | 14:11 |
| mhall119|work | The Next link on one of the courses is pointing to http://nubae.selfip.com/moodle/mod/resource/view.php?id=1125 | 14:12 |
| mhall119|work | is that right? | 14:12 |
| nubae | oh shit, yeah | 14:14 |
| nubae | need to fix that | 14:14 |
| nubae | no... thats cause I was working at home | 14:14 |
| nubae | first and then uploaded | 14:14 |
| nubae | what page is that on? | 14:14 |
| mhall119|work | http://www.linux-for-education.org/mod/resource/view.php?id=1123 | 14:14 |
| nubae | shit... wonder how that happened | 14:15 |
| mhall119|work | the Previous link points off-site too | 14:15 |
| nubae | a lot of those courses are copied directly from open university | 14:16 |
| nubae | whch has creative commons moodle courses | 14:16 |
| mhall119|work | looks like most of the links go off-site actually | 14:16 |
| nubae | yeah, the internal ones that have that structure... I guess I can just do a sed 's/nubae.selfip.com/linux-for-education/g' * | 14:17 |
| * Ahmuck-Sr waves | 14:17 | |
| nubae | mhall119|work: thanks for finding that... | 14:18 |
| mhall119|work | np | 14:18 |
| mhall119|work | also, dholbach thinks it would be great turn the UDW classes into moddle courses, if someone has the time and initiative to do it | 14:19 |
| nubae | where are they located? | 14:23 |
| nubae | I might do it to get more people motivated to help | 14:23 |
| nubae | it seems more content motivates people more :-/ | 14:23 |
| mhall119|work | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek has the logs | 14:30 |
| dgroos | Hi All, | 22:04 |
| dgroos | I'm trying to re-install CmapTools into the chroot so as to run that program as a localapp. | 22:06 |
| dgroos | I'm following the instructions I wrote at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp but... I can't do 1 thing that it says in the directions: "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ su $SUDO_USER" | 22:07 |
| dgroos | It gives an authentication error, both when I sudo it and when I've sudo su -ed it. Any idea? Thanks. | 22:08 |
| dgroos | I should say, the instruction I was trying to follow was the last line in step 3 of that page. | 22:09 |
| sbalneav | Why not break it up a little more? | 22:10 |
| sbalneav | sudo -i | 22:10 |
| sbalneav | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 22:10 |
| sbalneav | su $SUDO_USER | 22:10 |
| alkisg | dgroos: maybe you need to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS as well? | 22:10 |
| dgroos | alkisg: thanks, I try that then repeat that last line. | 22:11 |
| dgroos | um... what do I type before the code you gave me, "sudo export"? | 22:12 |
| alkisg | dgroos: first try it manually | 22:13 |
| alkisg | I.e. echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS as the user, | 22:13 |
| dgroos | OK "Command not found". | 22:13 |
| alkisg | and then, while you're logged on as root, export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=<the user value here> | 22:14 |
| alkisg | echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS | 22:14 |
| alkisg | that ^^ as *the user* gives you command not found? | 22:14 |
| dgroos | when I typed, DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS it said, command not found. When I typed, "echo DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS it said, DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" | 22:16 |
| alkisg | Don't forget the dollar there | 22:16 |
| alkisg | (12:14:18 πμ) alkisg: echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS | 22:16 |
| dgroos | right! | 22:17 |
| alkisg | E.g. here's what I did to get an xterm from the chroot: | 22:17 |
| alkisg | ok never mind go on ... | 22:17 |
| dgroos | OK it typed nothing... | 22:17 |
| sbalneav | Did you get "authentication error", or "unknown user"? | 22:17 |
| dgroos | blank line. | 22:17 |
| dgroos | no | 22:17 |
| sbalneav | So if you do a: | 22:18 |
| sbalneav | sudo -i | 22:18 |
| sbalneav | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 22:18 |
| sbalneav | su $SUDO_USER | 22:18 |
| sbalneav | you get an auth error? | 22:18 |
| * alkisg wonders why he needs to run it as a user, and can't run it as root | 22:19 | |
| * sbalneav too | 22:19 | |
| dgroos | hmmm... I can't sudo | 22:20 |
| sbalneav | So, the sudo's failing, right? | 22:20 |
| dgroos | I tried sudo -i and it wouldn't take my password. | 22:20 |
| dgroos | right | 22:20 |
| sbalneav | that's a different kettle of fish | 22:20 |
| alkisg | dgroos: so if I download cmaptools, and get it to open a gui installer, you're ok? | 22:20 |
| sbalneav | sudo cp /etc/passwd /etc/group /opt/ltsp/i386/etc | 22:20 |
| dgroos | ya know, I did all the stuff on this page in step 3 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp | 22:21 |
| sbalneav | That's blantantly wrong, I think. | 22:21 |
| dgroos | :( | 22:21 |
| sbalneav | Have a look at your /etc/group | 22:21 |
| sbalneav | is it a copy of your /etc/passwd? | 22:21 |
| dgroos | alkisg: I'm trying to use a gui installer on the chroot as the root user, that's the trick. | 22:22 |
| alkisg | dgroos: where can I download cmaptools? | 22:22 |
| dgroos | sbalneav: I'll check... | 22:22 |
| alkisg | Oooh... big one | 22:23 |
| dgroos | alkisg: it's right here http://cmap.ihmc.us/download/ but you gotta sign up though it's free. I've used this program for years on my own and with my students: it's awesome. | 22:24 |
| alkisg | Yeah I know people also use it here - but I've never used it though | 22:24 |
| alkisg | I think you don't need all this passwd stuff, you could run the installer as root. | 22:24 |
| sbalneav | dgroos: is your /etc/group buggered up? | 22:24 |
| * sbalneav shrugs | 22:26 | |
| dgroos | hm... since I did those things in step 3 on that page mentioned, I can't use gedit, it appears: "Gtk-WARNING **: cannont open display: :0 | 22:26 |
| dgroos | sbalneav: I'm working on keeping up--kinda slow... | 22:27 |
| sbalneav | more /etc/group | 22:27 |
| sbalneav | should look like: | 22:27 |
| sbalneav | root:x:0: | 22:27 |
| sbalneav | daemon:x:1: | 22:27 |
| sbalneav | bin:x:2: | 22:27 |
| sbalneav | etc. | 22:27 |
| dgroos | OK what deviation from pattern should I look for? | 22:28 |
| sbalneav | What do you have at the top? What's the first line? | 22:28 |
| dgroos | just like you put for top 3 lines. | 22:29 |
| sbalneav | ok | 22:29 |
| sbalneav | So sudo -i give you auth error. What happens if you control-alt-f1 and try to log in as yourself on a text terminal? | 22:30 |
| dgroos | if I control-alt-f2 I'll get a local terminal on the thin client--I'm working on the thin client--should I do that? | 22:31 |
| sbalneav | No, you should do it on the server. | 22:32 |
| sbalneav | Time for me to head home. | 22:32 |
| dgroos | w/ f1 it says login incorrect-- | 22:32 |
| sbalneav | On the server? | 22:33 |
| dgroos | sbalneav: thanks for your help! take it easy... | 22:33 |
| sbalneav | I wouldn't log out if I were you | 22:33 |
| dgroos | (I'll nx into the server--don't have physical access... | 22:33 |
| dgroos | ok | 22:33 |
| sbalneav | if you've managed to muck up your auth somehow, if you log out you might not get in. | 22:33 |
| dgroos | how do I get off the control-alt-f1 screen? | 22:34 |
| sbalneav | control alt f7 | 22:34 |
| alkisg1 | dgroos: I just downloaded and tried it | 22:34 |
| sbalneav | ok, heading home. | 22:34 |
| alkisg1 | No need for any of the things you do with passwd, users etc | 22:34 |
| dgroos | OK. | 22:34 |
| sbalneav | back on tonight | 22:34 |
| dgroos | adios | 22:34 |
| alkisg1 | Bye sbalneav | 22:34 |
| dgroos | alkisg1: ??? no way! | 22:35 |
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| alkisg | dgroos: want a screenshot? :) | 22:35 |
| dgroos | OK... I believe you... :) | 22:35 |
| alkisg | 1) xhost + | 22:35 |
| alkisg | 2) sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 22:35 |
| alkisg | 3) export DISPLAY=:0 | 22:36 |
| alkisg | (I don't know if that's really needed, but anyway...) | 22:36 |
| alkisg | 4) sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin | 22:36 |
| alkisg | That's all, then I got the installer running graphically. | 22:36 |
| dgroos | and so will it work as local app afterwards? | 22:37 |
| alkisg | Well, it runs the installation in the chroot, so ... | 22:37 |
| alkisg | Unless it has other problems (unsatisfied dependences or whatever) I don't see why not. | 22:38 |
| dgroos | Man--if you can make it work on localapp so easily... | 22:38 |
| dgroos | OK If I can fix the hole I've dug myself into I will test it :) | 22:38 |
| alkisg | Yeah export DISPLAY wasn't needed. So only 2 steps are needed, (1) xhost + (2) sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin | 22:41 |
| dgroos | Wow--I'll check it out. | 22:42 |
| dgroos | alkisg: would you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp step 3 and see where I might have messed up my computer? | 22:43 |
| dgroos | The only way I deviated from that was I was still root (via sudo su) so the "sudo mount -t proc proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc" probably was weird... | 22:44 |
| dgroos | what happens when you are root and you use sudo? | 22:44 |
| alkisg | I don't see anything too harmful. If you run step 3 twice without running step 5 inbetween, you'd put the "normal" passwd & groups into the chroot | 22:46 |
| alkisg | But otherwise, it should be ok... don't do it again, though :) | 22:46 |
| dgroos | alkisg: thanks. | 22:49 |
| alkisg | dgroos: Also, do: sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/root/.Xauthority | 22:49 |
| dgroos | I can't sudo :( | 22:50 |
| alkisg | Ah. Maybe you got things still mounted... Why don't you try rebooting? | 22:50 |
| dgroos | OK -- I'm a little concerned with what sbalneav said, I might not be able to get back in... what do you think? | 22:51 |
| alkisg | Well, if you aren't - don't you have a live cd handy? | 22:52 |
| alkisg | There's nothing that you could fix now that you couldn't also fix with a live cd | 22:52 |
| dgroos | I've got no physical access to room at this point... but could get it tomorrow. | 22:52 |
| dgroos | I'll do a reboot--it would feel good :) | 22:53 |
| alkisg | Hmmm... ok, then run: cat /proc/mounts | 22:53 |
| alkisg | and upload it to pastebin | 22:53 |
| dgroos | sure--what's the address of pastebin, again? | 22:54 |
| alkisg | pastebot.ltsp.org | 22:54 |
| dgroos | thanks. | 22:54 |
| alkisg | Ah | 22:54 |
| alkisg | No, thats for ltsp | 22:54 |
| alkisg | I think it's http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ for ubuntu | 22:55 |
| dgroos | of course the address popped up in firefox when I started to type the address... :) | 22:55 |
| dgroos | first, here's a copy from my terminal--what I typed and how it responded when I messed things up--pretty short. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264057 | 22:57 |
| ogra | alkisg, -bin | 22:59 |
| alkisg | ogra, elaborate, please? | 23:00 |
| alkisg | (1 o clock and 3 beers here... :-/) | 23:00 |
| ogra | paste.ubuntu.com :) | 23:00 |
| alkisg | Ah | 23:00 |
| ogra | though the other one should redirect | 23:00 |
| alkisg | Yeah both seem to work | 23:00 |
| dgroos | and, here's the cat /proc/mounts: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264059 | 23:00 |
| alkisg | (no redirection - ok I'll remember the short one) | 23:01 |
| alkisg | dgroos: yeah you got /proc and /dev mounted twice | 23:02 |
| alkisg | I don't know how would this screw things up. Reboot? | 23:02 |
| dgroos | reboot it will be! | 23:03 |
| dgroos | but, I can't sudo reboot :) | 23:04 |
| alkisg | Can you open another tab in the terminal and try there? | 23:05 |
| dgroos | I can use iLO I think but that will be a pretty harsh reboot... right | 23:05 |
| alkisg | Or try from the gnome menu? | 23:06 |
| dgroos | right, many ways... I'll try some. | 23:06 |
| dgroos | hey! opening up a new tab worked--sudo works there but the prompt says: dgroos@gcos2:/opt/ltsp/i386$ interesting... | 23:07 |
| alkisg | I'd say: sudo umount /proc - but maybe a reboot would be safer... :) | 23:08 |
| dgroos | can I unmount from there? w/out rebooting or is reboot best? (took the words right out of my mouth :) | 23:08 |
| dgroos | reboot it is... | 23:09 |
| alkisg | That's too deep for me, I've only been windows-free for 14 months... | 23:09 |
| dgroos | :) You know, I've never really used windows in my last 19 years of being a computer user. Sure, I've used one here and there for a session but nothing more--I've only used macs and now Ubuntu. | 23:11 |
| dgroos | alkisg: Thanks! rebooted, am at thin client and it rebooted and I was able to log. Opened terminal and sudo -i works :) | 23:14 |
| alkisg | Nice... now try the easy-installation-thing... "So only 2 steps are needed, (1) xhost + (2) sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin" | 23:15 |
| dgroos | I'll let you know :D | 23:16 |
| alkisg | Where LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin should be at /opt/ltsp/i386/LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin of course | 23:16 |
| alkisg | ...and delete those commands from the wiki page! :-O | 23:16 |
| dgroos | yeah... | 23:16 |
| dgroos | :( I tried and get the Stack Trace errors... | 23:23 |
| alkisg | You didn't see a GUI at all? | 23:23 |
| dgroos | No | 23:24 |
| alkisg | Paste the terminal output? | 23:24 |
| dgroos | sure... | 23:24 |
| alkisg | (all of it..) | 23:24 |
| alkisg | Maybe you did "sudo xhost +" instead of just "xhost +" ? | 23:26 |
| dgroos | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264064 | 23:26 |
| alkisg | Ah, did you delete the root .Xauthority file that we said before? | 23:28 |
| alkisg | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin | 23:28 |
| alkisg | oops | 23:28 |
| alkisg | (12:49:35 πμ) alkisg: dgroos: Also, do: sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/root/.Xauthority | 23:28 |
| dgroos | no | 23:28 |
| alkisg | Delete that and retry | 23:28 |
| dgroos | none of that... | 23:28 |
| dgroos | ok and will retry... | 23:29 |
| alkisg | (you created that with your previous script and didn't delete it afterwards) | 23:30 |
| dgroos | right--I wonder any other stuff from that last session? I retried and didn't work, error message at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264069 | 23:32 |
| alkisg | Urm... can't think of anything right now. Anyway too late here, /me goes to bed... | 23:34 |
| dgroos | :) Thanks for your help, again. | 23:35 |
| alkisg | Bye! | 23:35 |
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