[00:09] Evening all [03:06] holy cow, real internet! [03:11] LaserJock!!!! [03:11] WB [03:11] I finally got internet [03:12] after ~ 3 weeks of no internet on my linux machine [03:12] Coolio. [03:12] Want an update? [03:12] How did the move go [03:13] still sort of in progress [03:13] wife, pets, and a car load of stuff is here [03:13] but thursday the rest of our stuff arrives [03:13] geeze [03:14] I'm getting 24Mb/s down and 4Mb/s up [03:14] You've got everything you love there, the rest is just stuff [03:14] that's not bad. [03:15] that's like 10x better than what my old internet was [03:16] Cool! [03:17] So, We'll expect 10 times the work out of you, right? BWHAHAHAHAHAHA [03:17] Nah, you're working hard enough. [03:17] So, we have a working sabayon [03:17] yeah, stuff is crazy here [03:17] yeah, I read something about that [03:17] as in, really really working? [03:18] http://ltspthinclient.blogspot.com/ [03:18] yep. [03:18] Boots, edits profiles, applies them. [03:18] I [03:18] I've branched the edubuntu handbook, and started work on that. [03:20] excellent [03:22] brb, gotta set up wireless router [06:15] Good morning [09:06] good morning alkisg! === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [13:48] morning [13:56] hi mhall119|work [13:57] mhall119|work: can I entice u to give up some of your free time on helping create some moodle courses here: linux-for-education.org... I've created 2 ubuntu specific ones already, and am on a third one... but it needs even more loving... [14:05] nubae: if I had free time to give I would [14:05] I know the feeling... I have to try and get involvement somehow [14:05] what kind of courses are you looking for? [14:06] each course takes about 5-10 minutes to create [14:06] nubae: my problem is that I'm too involved in too many things [14:06] but anything from, how to install chrome on Ubuntu [14:06] or how to get LTSP working on ubuntu [14:06] how to set up LDAP with nfs on ubuntu [14:06] there are tons and tons of courses that would be helpful [14:07] I've created 2 really general ones to give u an example [14:07] take a look [14:07] does it have to be Ubuntu related? [14:07] the beautify one is actuallly really cool to follow [14:07] not at all [14:07] its everything Linux and edu [14:07] cause I know a lot of English teachers [14:07] in fact... the project is hosted by Novel [14:08] excellent [14:08] that would be even better content [14:08] take a look at the categories [14:08] We are trying to make it the place to go to if u want a course of any kind in various languages even [14:08] I'll pass the link along to all my educator friends [14:08] ok, if they need admin access... have the email me [14:09] I'll also pass it around my LoCo [14:09] dvanassche @ gmail dot com or its on my web: nubae.com [14:09] the cool thing is, we have this free space by Novell, a good looking moodle site, and tons of possibilities [14:09] do they need admin access to create courses? [14:09] its a shame to let it just sit there [14:09] to create a course yes [14:10] to follow it no [14:10] ok [14:10] otherwise it would be abused pretty badly by spammers [14:10] ubuntu-fl.org has a couple tutorials on it already, I'll see if I can get the author of them to make a moodle course from it [14:10] you should see about converting the Ubuntu Developer Week classes into moddle courses [14:11] have you talked to dholbach? [14:12] The Next link on one of the courses is pointing to http://nubae.selfip.com/moodle/mod/resource/view.php?id=1125 [14:12] is that right? [14:14] oh shit, yeah [14:14] need to fix that [14:14] no... thats cause I was working at home [14:14] first and then uploaded [14:14] what page is that on? [14:14] http://www.linux-for-education.org/mod/resource/view.php?id=1123 [14:15] shit... wonder how that happened [14:15] the Previous link points off-site too [14:16] a lot of those courses are copied directly from open university [14:16] whch has creative commons moodle courses [14:16] looks like most of the links go off-site actually [14:17] yeah, the internal ones that have that structure... I guess I can just do a sed 's/nubae.selfip.com/linux-for-education/g' * [14:17] * Ahmuck-Sr waves [14:18] mhall119|work: thanks for finding that... [14:18] np [14:19] also, dholbach thinks it would be great turn the UDW classes into moddle courses, if someone has the time and initiative to do it [14:23] where are they located? [14:23] I might do it to get more people motivated to help [14:23] it seems more content motivates people more :-/ [14:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek has the logs [22:04] Hi All, [22:06] I'm trying to re-install CmapTools into the chroot so as to run that program as a localapp. [22:07] I'm following the instructions I wrote at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp but... I can't do 1 thing that it says in the directions: "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ su $SUDO_USER" [22:08] It gives an authentication error, both when I sudo it and when I've sudo su -ed it. Any idea? Thanks. [22:09] I should say, the instruction I was trying to follow was the last line in step 3 of that page. [22:10] Why not break it up a little more? [22:10] sudo -i [22:10] chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 [22:10] su $SUDO_USER [22:10] dgroos: maybe you need to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS as well? [22:11] alkisg: thanks, I try that then repeat that last line. [22:12] um... what do I type before the code you gave me, "sudo export"? [22:13] dgroos: first try it manually [22:13] I.e. echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS as the user, [22:13] OK "Command not found". [22:14] and then, while you're logged on as root, export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS= [22:14] echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS [22:14] that ^^ as *the user* gives you command not found? [22:16] when I typed, DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS it said, command not found. When I typed, "echo DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS it said, DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" [22:16] Don't forget the dollar there [22:16] (12:14:18 πμ) alkisg: echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS [22:17] right! [22:17] E.g. here's what I did to get an xterm from the chroot: [22:17] ok never mind go on ... [22:17] OK it typed nothing... [22:17] Did you get "authentication error", or "unknown user"? [22:17] blank line. [22:17] no [22:18] So if you do a: [22:18] sudo -i [22:18] chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 [22:18] su $SUDO_USER [22:18] you get an auth error? [22:19] * alkisg wonders why he needs to run it as a user, and can't run it as root [22:19] * sbalneav too [22:20] hmmm... I can't sudo [22:20] So, the sudo's failing, right? [22:20] I tried sudo -i and it wouldn't take my password. [22:20] right [22:20] that's a different kettle of fish [22:20] dgroos: so if I download cmaptools, and get it to open a gui installer, you're ok? [22:20] sudo cp /etc/passwd /etc/group /opt/ltsp/i386/etc [22:21] ya know, I did all the stuff on this page in step 3 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp [22:21] That's blantantly wrong, I think. [22:21] :( [22:21] Have a look at your /etc/group [22:21] is it a copy of your /etc/passwd? [22:22] alkisg: I'm trying to use a gui installer on the chroot as the root user, that's the trick. [22:22] dgroos: where can I download cmaptools? [22:22] sbalneav: I'll check... [22:23] Oooh... big one [22:24] alkisg: it's right here http://cmap.ihmc.us/download/ but you gotta sign up though it's free. I've used this program for years on my own and with my students: it's awesome. [22:24] Yeah I know people also use it here - but I've never used it though [22:24] I think you don't need all this passwd stuff, you could run the installer as root. [22:24] dgroos: is your /etc/group buggered up? [22:26] * sbalneav shrugs [22:26] hm... since I did those things in step 3 on that page mentioned, I can't use gedit, it appears: "Gtk-WARNING **: cannont open display: :0 [22:27] sbalneav: I'm working on keeping up--kinda slow... [22:27] more /etc/group [22:27] should look like: [22:27] root:x:0: [22:27] daemon:x:1: [22:27] bin:x:2: [22:27] etc. [22:28] OK what deviation from pattern should I look for? [22:28] What do you have at the top? What's the first line? [22:29] just like you put for top 3 lines. [22:29] ok [22:30] So sudo -i give you auth error. What happens if you control-alt-f1 and try to log in as yourself on a text terminal? [22:31] if I control-alt-f2 I'll get a local terminal on the thin client--I'm working on the thin client--should I do that? [22:32] No, you should do it on the server. [22:32] Time for me to head home. [22:32] w/ f1 it says login incorrect-- [22:33] On the server? [22:33] sbalneav: thanks for your help! take it easy... [22:33] I wouldn't log out if I were you [22:33] (I'll nx into the server--don't have physical access... [22:33] ok [22:33] if you've managed to muck up your auth somehow, if you log out you might not get in. [22:34] how do I get off the control-alt-f1 screen? [22:34] control alt f7 [22:34] dgroos: I just downloaded and tried it [22:34] ok, heading home. [22:34] No need for any of the things you do with passwd, users etc [22:34] OK. [22:34] back on tonight [22:34] adios [22:34] Bye sbalneav [22:35] alkisg1: ??? no way! === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [22:35] dgroos: want a screenshot? :) [22:35] OK... I believe you... :) [22:35] 1) xhost + [22:35] 2) sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 [22:36] 3) export DISPLAY=:0 [22:36] (I don't know if that's really needed, but anyway...) [22:36] 4) sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin [22:36] That's all, then I got the installer running graphically. [22:37] and so will it work as local app afterwards? [22:37] Well, it runs the installation in the chroot, so ... [22:38] Unless it has other problems (unsatisfied dependences or whatever) I don't see why not. [22:38] Man--if you can make it work on localapp so easily... [22:38] OK If I can fix the hole I've dug myself into I will test it :) [22:41] Yeah export DISPLAY wasn't needed. So only 2 steps are needed, (1) xhost + (2) sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin [22:42] Wow--I'll check it out. [22:43] alkisg: would you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GuiInstallLocalApp step 3 and see where I might have messed up my computer? [22:44] The only way I deviated from that was I was still root (via sudo su) so the "sudo mount -t proc proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc" probably was weird... [22:44] what happens when you are root and you use sudo? [22:46] I don't see anything too harmful. If you run step 3 twice without running step 5 inbetween, you'd put the "normal" passwd & groups into the chroot [22:46] But otherwise, it should be ok... don't do it again, though :) [22:49] alkisg: thanks. [22:49] dgroos: Also, do: sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/root/.Xauthority [22:50] I can't sudo :( [22:50] Ah. Maybe you got things still mounted... Why don't you try rebooting? [22:51] OK -- I'm a little concerned with what sbalneav said, I might not be able to get back in... what do you think? [22:52] Well, if you aren't - don't you have a live cd handy? [22:52] There's nothing that you could fix now that you couldn't also fix with a live cd [22:52] I've got no physical access to room at this point... but could get it tomorrow. [22:53] I'll do a reboot--it would feel good :) [22:53] Hmmm... ok, then run: cat /proc/mounts [22:53] and upload it to pastebin [22:54] sure--what's the address of pastebin, again? [22:54] pastebot.ltsp.org [22:54] thanks. [22:54] Ah [22:54] No, thats for ltsp [22:55] I think it's http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ for ubuntu [22:55] of course the address popped up in firefox when I started to type the address... :) [22:57] first, here's a copy from my terminal--what I typed and how it responded when I messed things up--pretty short. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264057 [22:59] alkisg, -bin [23:00] ogra, elaborate, please? [23:00] (1 o clock and 3 beers here... :-/) [23:00] paste.ubuntu.com :) [23:00] Ah [23:00] though the other one should redirect [23:00] Yeah both seem to work [23:00] and, here's the cat /proc/mounts: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264059 [23:01] (no redirection - ok I'll remember the short one) [23:02] dgroos: yeah you got /proc and /dev mounted twice [23:02] I don't know how would this screw things up. Reboot? [23:03] reboot it will be! [23:04] but, I can't sudo reboot :) [23:05] Can you open another tab in the terminal and try there? [23:05] I can use iLO I think but that will be a pretty harsh reboot... right [23:06] Or try from the gnome menu? [23:06] right, many ways... I'll try some. [23:07] hey! opening up a new tab worked--sudo works there but the prompt says: dgroos@gcos2:/opt/ltsp/i386$ interesting... [23:08] I'd say: sudo umount /proc - but maybe a reboot would be safer... :) [23:08] can I unmount from there? w/out rebooting or is reboot best? (took the words right out of my mouth :) [23:09] reboot it is... [23:09] That's too deep for me, I've only been windows-free for 14 months... [23:11] :) You know, I've never really used windows in my last 19 years of being a computer user. Sure, I've used one here and there for a session but nothing more--I've only used macs and now Ubuntu. [23:14] alkisg: Thanks! rebooted, am at thin client and it rebooted and I was able to log. Opened terminal and sudo -i works :) [23:15] Nice... now try the easy-installation-thing... "So only 2 steps are needed, (1) xhost + (2) sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin" [23:16] I'll let you know :D [23:16] Where LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin should be at /opt/ltsp/i386/LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin of course [23:16] ...and delete those commands from the wiki page! :-O [23:16] yeah... [23:23] :( I tried and get the Stack Trace errors... [23:23] You didn't see a GUI at all? [23:24] No [23:24] Paste the terminal output? [23:24] sure... [23:24] (all of it..) [23:26] Maybe you did "sudo xhost +" instead of just "xhost +" ? [23:26] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264064 [23:28] Ah, did you delete the root .Xauthority file that we said before? [23:28] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 sh LinuxCmapTools_v5.03_04-07-09.bin [23:28] oops [23:28] (12:49:35 πμ) alkisg: dgroos: Also, do: sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/root/.Xauthority [23:28] no [23:28] Delete that and retry [23:28] none of that... [23:29] ok and will retry... [23:30] (you created that with your previous script and didn't delete it afterwards) [23:32] right--I wonder any other stuff from that last session? I retried and didn't work, error message at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264069 [23:34] Urm... can't think of anything right now. Anyway too late here, /me goes to bed... [23:35] :) Thanks for your help, again. [23:35] Bye!