[00:00] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: I generally use growisofs to burn it. :o
[00:01] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: growisofs -speed 1 -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/dvdrw=convertedImage.iso
[00:05] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: yeah, I made a mistake while creating the dvd files.  I did not choose the iso option and it instead created the two directories
[00:07] <CyberKitsune> Hello everyone, I just upgraded to KDE 4.3.1 and the Knetworkmanager systray app crashes with a Segmantation Fault shortly after connecting to a network.
[00:08] <CyberKitsune> People in #kde said to ask here.
[00:08] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: I see. You even could burn it from two directories too.  Point it to main directory -- would work too.
[00:11] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: I will give it a shot and see what happens....discs are cheap, risk is low.
[00:11] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: Iso or path?
[00:11] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: growisofs -speed 1 -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/dvdrw /path/to/the/directory/ <--- Me think. That directory should have two folders in it, AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS.
[00:11] <chelfar> hello
[00:13] <rmorel> coucou
[00:14] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: I like to use K3b actually.  Worked flawless with .iso files
[00:15] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: To each his own. :)
[00:17] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: hey, gotta try!
[00:18] <BluesKaj> leaf-sheep, most dvd and mpeg2-dvd playable media have video and audio transfer stream files (TS)
[00:20] <leaf-sheep> BluesKaj: Interesting to know.
[00:22] <CyberKitsune> So, no help with my knetworkmanager issue?
[00:22] <BluesKaj> leaf-sheep, rippining a dvd usually strips the TS files so if you try to play a burned copy on an older dvd player it won't work
[00:23] <BluesKaj> what's your issue , CyberKitsune ?
[00:24] <CyberKitsune> I've just upgraded to KDE 4.3.1, and knetworkmanager crashes shortly after I connect, making WiFi drop as well.
[00:24] <CyberKitsune> It crashes with a segmentation fault
[00:24] <CyberKitsune> at first, I asked in #kde, but they said to ask here >.>
[00:26] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, did you originally install a driver for your wifi card ?
[00:26] <CyberKitsune> No, the driver was in linux-modules-restricted, which came with Kubuntu.
[00:28] <BluesKaj> right , it's a kernel module which is supposed to work without having to resort to driver installs
[00:29] <BluesKaj> seems a lot of these modules aren't keeping pace with the kdenetwork manager
[00:29] <CyberKitsune> It was working with the plasmoid in KDE 4.2.2
[00:30] <CyberKitsune> but in KDE 4.3.1, the plasmoid says to use the new tray app
[00:30] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, I've been recommending wicd as an option , but it seesm to be having some issues lately as well
[00:30] <CyberKitsune> wicd?
[00:30] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[00:30] <CyberKitsune> That bot rocks.
[00:31] <CyberKitsune> Is wicd command line or gui?
[00:32] <BluesKaj> GUI , if you 've got canonical partners and third party repos enabled then you should be able to install it
[00:36] <CyberKitsune> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[00:36] <CyberKitsune>   network-manager plasma-widget-network-manager plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[00:36] <CyberKitsune> Noty
[00:41] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, you can always reinstall plasma-widget-networkmanagement if wicd isn't for you.
[00:41] <CyberKitsune> I did install the dubug symbols for kdelibs, and sent a bug report with the "This app has crashed" window, so maybe that will help
[00:41] <CyberKitsune> true
[00:42] <CyberKitsune> Is there a way to control networkmanager from the command line?
[00:42] <BluesKaj> so far I havent seen the need to and ive got wicd on 3 linux machines , 2 wifi and one ethernet
[00:43] <LuisJa> Can someone tell me pls how i can open my ra2.exe with the konsole?
[00:43] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: That's a windows app.
[00:43] <LuisJa> no
[00:43] <LuisJa> i unrar it here in linux
[00:43] <CyberKitsune> .exe = windows
[00:44] <LuisJa> I know, but i wanna open it with konsole so i can use wine with it
[00:44] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, control network management in the cli , in what manner?
[00:44] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: Oh,
[00:44] <LuisJa> there is a internal error than doesnt let me play the game with wine in my laptop, and i wanna check what konsole throws out, cause i am tired of that internal error ¬¬
[00:44] <CyberKitsune> Open Konsole, cd /path/to/the/folder/that/exe/is/in
[00:44] <BluesKaj> LuisJa, if you install it in wine there's no need to to use the konsole
[00:45] <LuisJa> no blueskaj
[00:45] <CyberKitsune> and type wine program.exe
[00:45] <LuisJa> the ra2.exe came in a rar
[00:45] <LuisJa> its doesnt needs install
[00:45] <LuisJa> it just needs a click to play
[00:45] <CyberKitsune> ...
[00:45] <LuisJa> all files are inside the folder
[00:45] <CyberKitsune> You still don't need the konsole
[00:45] <LuisJa> Cyber
[00:45] <CyberKitsune> you just run the .exe with wine
[00:46] <BluesKaj> LuisJa, then stick in t your wine list err wine apps list :)
[00:46] <login_> ola
[00:46] <LuisJa> in WineHQ database it says C&C Red Alert 2 runes fine with wine
[00:46] <LuisJa> thats not my case, after 5seconds to 5 minutes of playing i get an internal error
[00:46] <LuisJa> the program exits... =(
[00:46] <BluesKaj> oh lord , I think I'll just take a walk
[00:47] <CyberKitsune> Then you are asking in the wrong place
[00:47] <CyberKitsune> ask in Wine's IRC channel
[00:47] <LuisJa> lmao, believe me when i tried to ask in wine chanel
[00:47] <LuisJa> no one help me
[00:47] <LuisJa> =(
[00:47] <BluesKaj> open wine and import the app into it LuisJa
[00:47] <LuisJa> what?
[00:47] <BluesKaj> just what i said
[00:47] <LuisJa> what u just said?
[00:47] <CyberKitsune> BluesKaj: What?
[00:48] <BluesKaj> look up
[00:48] <LuisJa> what means...
[00:48] <CyberKitsune> Blues has it running
[00:48] <CyberKitsune> she is just trying to start it from the console to see an error
[00:48] <CyberKitsune> that happens during the program
[00:48] <CyberKitsune> (or he)
[00:48] <LuisJa> she...?
[00:48] <LuisJa> lol....
[00:49] <BluesKaj> it's a windows exe file , guess it's gonna fail
[00:49] <LuisJa> not download error, cause i tested it in a xp cpu, runes like heaven
[00:49] <CyberKitsune> Open Konsole and type: wine /path/to/your/exe/file.exe
[00:49] <CyberKitsune> brb, g2get pizza
[00:50] <LuisJa> enjoy
[00:50] <LuisJa> what da.?
[00:50] <LuisJa> luis@Kubuntu:~$ wine /home/luis/Command and Conquer Red Alert 2/ra2.exe
[00:50] <LuisJa> wine: cannot find '/home/luis/Command'
[00:50] <FloodBotK1> LuisJa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <LuisJa> thats the path...
[00:51] <CyberKitsune> Oh
[00:51] <CyberKitsune> add "";s to the path
[00:51] <LuisJa> what?
[00:51] <CyberKitsune> so
[00:51] <CyberKitsune> wine "/path/to/exe/file.exe"
[00:51] <LuisJa> oh
[00:51] <CyberKitsune> Include quotes
[00:52] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, I recommend you not waste your time on this ..windows exe files are supposed to be installed in wine and that's it.
[00:52] <CyberKitsune> BluesKaj: LOL installed in wine
[00:52] <CyberKitsune> no
[00:52] <BluesKaj> anyway tv time for me
[00:52] <CyberKitsune> I've delt with wine for years
[00:53] <BluesKaj> yeah same here , i run several apps every day that i installed in it, so what's the prob with him not using it ... a waste of space here IMO
[00:54] <BluesKaj> bbl
[00:54] <LuisJa> CyberKitsune: damn got a problem here
[00:54] <LuisJa> after the internal error crash the games logs me out
[00:55] <LuisJa> not letting me see what konsole throws out...
[00:55] <CyberKitsune> Oh, it crashes XOrg then
[00:55] <LuisJa> X0rg?
[00:55] <CyberKitsune> That's no fun
[00:55] <LuisJa> :S
[00:55] <LuisJa> holda let me guess...
[00:55] <LuisJa> Luisja there is no fix for this...lol...
[00:57] <LuisJa> .....
[00:58] <LuisJa> what i dont really understand CyberKitsune its than if C&CRA2 has this problem with wine, why in WineHQ database it says it runes fine....
[01:00] <LuisJa> still there?
[01:08] <CyberKitsune> Sorry
[01:09] <CyberKitsune> I'm here
[01:09] <CyberKitsune> well, WineHQ is user-based
[01:09] <CyberKitsune> said user could have a different hardware configuratiom
[01:09] <CyberKitsune> ion*
[01:10] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: What program was it again?
[01:10] <LuisJa> Command And Conquer Red Alert 2
[01:11] <LuisJa> i hope we can find a solution because i ADORE this game
[01:11] <hdevalence> I have this problem where my laptop freezes and I cannot give any input via mouse, keyboard, or magic sysrq keys. It's annoying because I have to reboot the computer.
[01:12] <CyberKitsune> hdevalence: What kind of laptop is it?
[01:12] <hdevalence> Dell inspiron 1420
[01:16] <hdevalence> I don't know whether it's just a problem of not responding to input or what, because the hdd indicator stops flashing
[01:16] <hdevalence> which means that my compile stopped when it froze
[01:17] <LuisJa> CyberKitsune: tell me if we can do something
[01:17] <LuisJa> wtf i mean
[01:18] <LuisJa> tell me if u find something we can do
[01:20] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: What version of wine are you using?
[01:20] <LuisJa> the lastes
[01:21] <LuisJa> just downloaded it
[01:21] <LuisJa> =)
[01:21] <LuisJa> i am thrusting in u, commander lol
[01:21] <CyberKitsune> I'm not so sure, the ubuntu repo has the stable
[01:21] <CyberKitsune> run wine --version
[01:21] <CyberKitsune> in Konsole
[01:22] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: what happened with your firefox problem?
[01:22] <LuisJa> eagle i was waiting for u
[01:22] <LuisJa> could not fix it
[01:22] <LuisJa> firefox dont wanna load
[01:22] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: I love Red Alert 2
[01:23] <LuisJa> ME TOO =(
[01:23] <LuisJa> but i got an internal error when i rune it in wine =(
[01:23] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: Did you run that command?
[01:23] <CyberKitsune> wine --version
[01:23] <CyberKitsune> what does it say?
[01:23] <LuisJa> run wine --version
[01:23] <LuisJa> i mean
[01:23] <LuisJa> sudo: run: command not found
[01:24] <LuisJa> also without sudo command not found
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> just wine --version
[01:24] <LuisJa> oh LOL
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> no sudo, no run
[01:24] <EagleScreen> only "wine --version" lol
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> lern2bash
[01:24] <LuisJa> wine-1.0.1
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> ok
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> You have the ubuntu stabe
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> stable*
[01:24] <LuisJa> ...
[01:24] <CyberKitsune> You need to add the WineHQ offical repo
[01:25] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: any error when you try to start Firefox from K-Menu?
[01:25] <LuisJa> how i can do that cyber?
[01:25] <LuisJa> eagle did u see my pm?
[01:25] <CyberKitsune> One sec, I'm getting the info
[01:25] <LuisJa> ok
[01:27] <CyberKitsune> Ok
[01:27] <CyberKitsune> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:27] <CyberKitsune> Type that
[01:27] <CyberKitsune> in console
[01:27] <EagleScreen> yes i saw
[01:28] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: Did kate open that file?
[01:28] <EagleScreen> are you trying to run Red alert 2 installer?
[01:28] <CyberKitsune> No
[01:28] <CyberKitsune> His/her game crashes
[01:28] <LuisJa> HIS
[01:28] <CyberKitsune> Ok
[01:28] <LuisJa> ¬¬ lol
[01:29]  * CyberKitsune mutters thats what I get for being a furry...
[01:29] <LuisJa> yes kate open it
[01:29] <CyberKitsune> k
[01:29] <CyberKitsune> at the bottom of the file
[01:29] <CyberKitsune> make a new line and paste
[01:30] <CyberKitsune> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope"
[01:30] <CyberKitsune> at the bottom
[01:30] <CyberKitsune> Save the file when you are done
[01:30] <CyberKitsune> Did you add it?
[01:31] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: your game crash or cause your base to explode?
[01:31] <LuisJa> my base to explode?!
[01:31] <LuisJa> no, crash lol
[01:31] <LuisJa> adding
[01:31] <CyberKitsune> on a new line, right?
[01:31] <LuisJa> yes
[01:32] <CyberKitsune> k, all saved?
[01:32] <LuisJa> yes
[01:32] <CyberKitsune> ok, close kate
[01:32] <CyberKitsune> now run
[01:32] <CyberKitsune> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:32] <hdevalence> there it goes again
[01:32] <hdevalence> this is sort of annoying
[01:33] <LuisJa> uhhh?
[01:33] <LuisJa> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:33] <LuisJa> Ok
[01:33] <CyberKitsune> It says OK right?
[01:33] <LuisJa> yes
[01:33] <CyberKitsune> Now run
[01:33] <CyberKitsune> sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <CyberKitsune> It will refresh all of the sources
[01:34] <LuisJa> ok
[01:34] <CyberKitsune> That finished?
[01:35] <CyberKitsune> When it's done with that run:
[01:35] <CyberKitsune> sudo apt-get upgrade wine
[01:35] <LuisJa> W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[01:35] <LuisJa> W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
[01:35] <LuisJa> No pubkey
[01:35] <CyberKitsune> Don't worry
[01:35] <CyberKitsune> that;s another source
[01:35] <LuisJa> oh so..
[01:35] <CyberKitsune> sudo apt-get upgrade wine
[01:36] <CyberKitsune> if everything worked
[01:36] <CyberKitsune> it'll try to get a newer version
[01:36] <LuisJa> ok
[01:36] <LuisJa> yes
[01:36] <LuisJa> newer
[01:36] <CyberKitsune> good
[01:36] <LuisJa> going to eat, coming in 1 sec
[01:40] <EagleScreen> wow, KDE gone to kdm when i exited Red Alert 2 game
[01:40] <hdevalence> EagleScreen: better than the entire box randomly freezing
[01:40] <hdevalence> not that I'm bitter about this problem
[01:41] <EagleScreen> will happen the same in Gnome?
[01:41] <LuisJa> okay CyberKitsune
[01:41] <LuisJa> whats next?
[01:42] <CyberKitsune> It's updated, so try running your game again
[01:42] <LuisJa> YES COMMANDER
[01:42] <LuisJa> if kane exists, i will not have my F internal error
[01:42] <LuisJa> COME ON
[01:44] <CyberKitsune> Yep, Xorg crashed
[01:45] <LuisJa> I am sorry to say kane doesnt exists LOL =((((((((((((
[01:45] <CyberKitsune> LuisJa: It didn't help any?
[01:45] <LuisJa> no =((((((((((
[01:45] <LuisJa> got the error from the start like always =(
[01:45] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: i can run Red alert 2 with wine until it ask for CD
[01:46] <CyberKitsune> Well, I'm out of ideas
[01:46] <CyberKitsune> ask #winehq
[01:46] <LuisJa> LOL
[01:46] <LuisJa> i asked here after not getting any useful answer from winehw
[01:46] <LuisJa> lets say these
[01:46] <LuisJa> u were the one who most helped
[01:46] <LuisJa> thx anyway for the try ;)
[01:47] <CyberKitsune> Now...
[01:47] <LuisJa> well i feel defeated and crushed lol
[01:47] <CyberKitsune> Does anyone know why my MacBook slows down dramatically after running kubuntu for an hour+?
[01:47] <EagleScreen> I only have MS Windows installed in order to play Red Alert 2
[01:48] <LuisJa> believe me than i tried installing xp
[01:48] <LuisJa> in my pc
[01:48] <LuisJa> could not connect to internet by lan for some unknown reason
[01:48] <EagleScreen> one day, I tried to run it with a newer wine version, and Red Alert 2 CD exploded into the CD-ROM drive, and a pieze of it jumped to my face
[01:49] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: did you check top and free -m ?
[01:50] <CyberKitsune> top, yes
[01:50] <CyberKitsune> free -m, no
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> Mem:           953        943          9          0         16        473
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> -/+ buffers/cache:        454        499
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> Swap:         1451        835        615
[01:51] <EagleScreen> anything rare in top?
[01:51] <FloodBotK1> CyberKitsune: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> Ok, sorry floodbot
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> Nothing rare in top
[01:51] <EagleScreen> pastebin top
[01:51] <CyberKitsune> Top looks perfectly normal
[01:52] <CyberKitsune> *5 mins later*
[01:52] <LuisJa> Btw CyberKitsune i tried running red alert 2 with virtual box but it goes extremely slow
[01:52] <EagleScreen> and pastebin free -m it will be more clearny
[01:52] <CyberKitsune> REALLY REALLY slowww
[01:52] <LuisJa> is there now a way u know to fix that=
[01:52] <LuisJa> LOOOL
[01:52] <CyberKitsune> Use VMWare
[01:52] <LuisJa> it works?
[01:52] <CyberKitsune> VMware has 3D accelleration
[01:53] <LuisJa> DAMN cause of this glitch i cannot use my firefox to search
[01:53] <LuisJa> EagleScreen: couting with u to fix this lol
[01:57] <CyberKitsune> EagleScreen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263489/
[01:57] <CyberKitsune> This is bugging the hell out of me
[01:57] <CyberKitsune> I have a 2.22Ghz Core 2 duo
[01:57] <CyberKitsune> It's acting like a 300mhz P2 >.>
[01:58] <CyberKitsune> When Kubuntu boots up, It's fast
[01:58] <CyberKitsune> but after 30min-1hr
[01:58] <CyberKitsune> it slows down dramatically
[02:00] <CyberKitsune> EagleScreen: Did you see the pastebin?
[02:00] <EagleScreen> watching it
[02:01] <CyberKitsune> I may need more RAM, but that's what swap is for, right?
[02:02] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: is obious that something is wasting a lot of RAM, phisical RAM is full used and swap is used
[02:02] <CyberKitsune> h
[02:02] <CyberKitsune> Oh
[02:02] <CyberKitsune> I only have 1GB RAM
[02:02] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: is not necessary that amount of RAM to run Kubuntu, some application is not freeing well the memory
[02:03] <CyberKitsune> ...maybe an app has a memleak?
[02:03] <EagleScreen> yes it is
[02:03] <CyberKitsune> But which app is the question.
[02:04] <EagleScreen> try to find it with top and with ksysguard
[02:05] <CyberKitsune> Xorg is using the most... everything.
[02:07] <CyberKitsune> One sec
[02:10] <CyberKitsune> EagleScreen: http://i25.tinypic.com/2po1938.jpg
[02:10] <CyberKitsune> I feel like it's going to lock up any seconed....
[02:13] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: the application that didn't freed the memory can be died yet, but Linux should free its memory allocations
[02:13] <CyberKitsune> It's just getting worse
[02:13] <CyberKitsune> Why is python using up so much?
[02:13] <CyberKitsune> I'm not running a python script
[02:14] <CyberKitsune> Is it safe to kill python?
[02:17] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu and Ubuntu run a lot of python applications
[02:17] <EagleScreen> apport, update-notifier...
[02:18] <CyberKitsune> ah
[02:18] <CyberKitsune> Well, how do I speed up this then
[02:18] <CyberKitsune> is there a command I can use to free memory?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> CyberKitsune, yeah sudo aptitude autoclean :)
[02:20] <CyberKitsune> Freed 0B of disk space
[02:20] <cor> BluesKaj, your mount line is still all messed up!
[02:20] <CyberKitsune> No, not HD Space
[02:20] <CyberKitsune> RAM
[02:20] <CyberKitsune> Somthing is taking up all of my RAM, but I can't find out what?
[02:21] <cor> Ctrl+Esc
[02:21] <BluesKaj> cor , I tried it your way but I couldn't get anywhere
[02:21] <cor> htop is nice for that stuff, too
[02:22] <cor> BluesKaj,  it ain't *my* way, I just followed the documentation!
[02:24] <BluesKaj> cor,I created a folder in my /home/user/ dir for the windows share but it din't mount there  , and i copied the mtab line as you suggested , but no luck
[02:25] <cor> you don't copy, you replicate
[02:25] <cor> in other words, use the information therein to create an actual mount line
[02:25] <cor> if I knew the name of your server and share name and such, I'd do it for you. But each example you show has wildly different info!
[02:26] <CyberKitsune> cor: I ran htop, and my RAM is fine, but my Swap is near full, but it seems that no apps are really taking up any
[02:27] <CyberKitsune> >.>
[02:27] <CyberKitsune> Kubuntu dramatically slows down after about and hour
[02:27] <cor> RAM is fine, but swap is full? that's unusual
[02:27] <CyberKitsune> it REALLY shows down
[02:27] <BluesKaj> cor , this is the mtab entry for the windows share using smb4k : //MARGARET-PC/C /home/kaj/smb4k/MARGARET-PC/C cifs rw,mand,nosuid,nodev,user=kaj 0 0
[02:27] <CyberKitsune> There is no cause either, all apps are using normal amount
[02:31] <CyberKitsune> cor: RAM is 405/953MB Swap is 1038/1451MB
[02:31] <cor> BluesKaj, so the share is just called "C"
[02:31] <CyberKitsune> Slow as crap
[02:31] <CyberKitsune> on my Core 2 Duo
[02:31] <cor> CyberKitsune, I'd get more RAM if I were you
[02:31] <CyberKitsune> It runs OSX just fine
[02:31] <cor> like 3GB more
[02:32] <BluesKaj> MARGARET-PC/C
[02:32] <cor> OS X runs on 512, as does KDE, but neither are happy in that
[02:32] <CyberKitsune> I have 1GB or RAM
[02:32] <cor> MARGARET-PC is the name of the server
[02:32] <cor> the computer
[02:32] <cor> "C" seems to be the name of the share
[02:32] <CyberKitsune> Shouldn't that be enough?
[02:32] <cor> try: //MARGARET-PC/C    /home/kaj/smb4k/MARGARET-PC/C    cifs    credentials=/home/kaj/.smbpassword,rw,nodev,uid=kaj,gid=adm 0 0
[02:32] <CyberKitsune> OpenSuSE ran just fine
[02:32] <CyberKitsune> iirc Kubuntu was running just fine...
[02:33] <CyberKitsune> until recently
[02:33] <cor> it should be enough, sure. just saying, your machine would be way happier with more. and it's cheap now
[02:33] <cor> all these new 3D effects and stuff take RAM
[02:33] <CyberKitsune> But, do you know why my machine is as slow as hell when My RAM/Swap looks OK as well as my cpu and I/O
[02:34] <cor> not from here, no
[02:34] <Stunts> hey i got a problem that needs solvin
[02:34] <CyberKitsune> I'll let you SSH in
[02:34] <Stunts> and im new to irc so im being a bit noobish
[02:34] <cor> I'd just run the same tools you can, htop, lsof, etc
[02:34] <cor> Stunts, don't worry about it, just fire away
[02:35] <Stunts> ok i have ben tryn alot of linux version son this laptop
[02:35] <Stunts> and all of them have the same problem
[02:35] <Stunts> as soon as i get past grub, but not at splash
[02:35] <Stunts> the screen starts flivkering
[02:35] <Stunts> really fast
[02:35] <Stunts> and then it shuts off
[02:35] <Stunts> and pc freezes up completely
[02:35] <CyberKitsune> Brb, system is too slow to use, need to reboot
[02:36] <cor> Stunts, did you try booting into recovery mode in grub? auto-fix Video problems?
[02:36] <Stunts> i dont have linux installed yet, um
[02:36] <cor> ahh with ya
[02:36] <Stunts> i noticed one problem
[02:36] <Stunts> that i fixed
[02:36] <Stunts> was the acpi
[02:36] <cor> so this is a Live CD?
[02:36] <Stunts> yes
[02:36] <FloodBotK2> Stunts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:36] <cor> You probably want to reset your BIOS before you start
[02:36] <cor> default settings are usually the best to start off with
[02:37] <Stunts> thats what i have, and my bios is a old 1999, thats the latest version, im on a compaw armada 3500
[02:37] <cor> you recently reset it?
[02:37] <Stunts> the bios is a win 3.x interface
[02:38] <Stunts> kinda had to, its stored on hard drive, and i had to get a new hard drive cause the other one went out
[02:38] <cor> weird! that's extremely advanced. all my BIOS are basic text
[02:38] <Stunts> and by stored on a hdd i mean, its like the bios is on the computer
[02:38] <Stunts> but the hard drive has the interface to bios
[02:38] <cor> it's not on the hard drive
[02:39] <cor> I mean the BIOS, the basic computer setup you get to AT the point of bootup, with a hotkey
[02:39] <Stunts> yes
[02:39] <Stunts> i know
[02:39] <cor> way before any OS loads up
[02:39] <Stunts> i know this is weird to explain
[02:39] <Stunts> its literaly an interface that has a mouse
[02:39] <Stunts> but its the bios
[02:40] <cor> sure, you can get programs to manipulate a BIOS from the GUI, but thta's not what we are after
[02:40] <Stunts> you cant even get into a bios with out havn a hard drive plugged in with a diagnostic partition on it
[02:40] <cor> i do not believe that
[02:40] <Stunts> lemme find a link that explains...
[02:41] <Stunts> found it
[02:42] <Stunts> its on other pc so i gotta type it
[02:42] <cor> no, I mean, if you say that's the way it is, I believe you, I just DO NOT BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!
[02:43] <Stunts> www.tomshardware.com/forum/107620-30-compaq-armada-1750
[02:43] <Stunts> try that, hope i typed it right
[02:44] <cor> YOu have the setup diskette?
[02:44] <Stunts> more or less i had to make them, cause i got this pc as a hand me down and it didnt have em with it
[02:44] <MeowKItten> Whenever i click a folder doplhin dosent open it up,kubunutu decides it wants to use media player to open all folders,how can i fix this?
[02:45] <cor> There's a BIOS setup utility on that, which would be better. But bets of all would be ditch that mofo crap and get a decent laptop!
[02:45] <cor> MeowKItten, System settings default applications
[02:45] <Stunts> i have a decent one
[02:45] <cor> Stunts, gotcha
[02:45] <Stunts> i just have this 1 and i was starting to learn programming an docmpiling on ipod but its too small for doing good stuff
[02:46] <cor> Stunts, okay, have you tried any other distros?
[02:46] <Stunts> yes
[02:46] <Stunts> i even tried crunchbang
[02:46] <cor> and none work?
[02:46] <Stunts> same problem
[02:46] <cor> see, to me that just screams BIOS
[02:46] <cor> as in RESET
[02:46] <Stunts> i only have 128mb of ram
[02:46] <MeowKItten> thanks cor that was mighty annoying.
[02:46] <Stunts> but crunchbang should work
[02:47] <Stunts> i have reset the bios already
[02:47] <cor> hmm.. should be enough. I have a KDE3.5 system running on a 133/80MB
[02:47] <Stunts> the graphics card is junk , it has no 3d accelreation, and 2mb of mem
[02:47] <cor> so next, go through BIOS settings and disable and caching or funky video business
[02:47] <Stunts> my bios isnt like that
[02:47] <Stunts> it basicly has visual button options
[02:47] <Stunts> i can disable cards
[02:47] <cor> MeowKItten, I can imagine!
[02:47] <Stunts> and edit memory addresses
[02:48] <Stunts> but thats bout it
[02:48] <cor> yikes!
[02:48] <cor> Disable all cards not required, then!
[02:48] <cor> You might want to look at Arch Linux
[02:48] <Stunts> i thot that was for macs
[02:49] <CyberKitsune> Can you manually configure networkmanager via the command line somehow?
[02:49] <cor> CyberKitsune, yes
[02:49] <cor> except it's best to disable networkmanager if you plan to config the network this way
[02:49] <CyberKitsune> Good, because knetworkmanager is crashing constantly
[02:49] <CyberKitsune> Then what should I use?
[02:49] <cor> first task after kubuntu install: remove network manager
[02:49] <CyberKitsune> I need to connect to a WiFi network
[02:50] <CyberKitsune> so, what management system should I use?
[02:50] <cor> all you need is in /etc/network/interfaces. one line of text is usually enough for most interfaces
[02:50] <Stunts> i havent had any problems with linux till now, i dont suppose this has something to do with a little chip i knowked off the mobo a while back by mistake could it? still dont know what that was for
[02:50] <cor> for wifi, also specify the ESSID, and it shoudk just *happen*
[02:50] <CyberKitsune> it has WPA
[02:50] <cor> in konqueror... man: interfaces
[02:50] <CyberKitsune> Encryption
[02:51] <cor> so maybe a few lines, then!
[02:51] <Stunts> believe ot or not im on that computer right now running xp
[02:51] <cor> wicd is quite good, if you prefer a GUI
[02:51] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: use plasma-widget-networkmanagement (KDE 4.3) or network-manager-kde (KDE 3.5)
[02:51] <cor> Stunts, if XP can run, Linux should be able to, also
[02:51] <cor> brb
[02:52] <Stunts> its a miracle in itself xp can even run on this
[02:52] <CyberKitsune> EagleScreen: plasma-widget-networkmanagement is disbles on 4.3.1 as it says it's broken when you add it, and states to use knetworkmanager
[02:52] <CyberKitsune> disabled*
[02:54] <EagleScreen> negative CyberKitsunei am using it
[02:54] <CyberKitsune> 4.3.1/
[02:54] <CyberKitsune> ?
[02:54] <EagleScreen> yes
[02:54] <EagleScreen> wait  a moment
[02:54] <CyberKitsune> The widget?
[02:54] <CyberKitsune> or the app (which is in the systray)
[02:55] <hdevalence> how do I add custom KDM sessions?
[02:55] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: i mena this one
[02:55] <EagleScreen> http://imagebin.ca/view/pU-Zbs.html
[02:56] <Stunts> somebody want to explain the floodbot?
[02:56] <cor> it's there purely to annoy
[02:56] <Stunts> yea
[02:56] <Stunts> i noticed
[02:56] <CyberKitsune> EagleScreen: That's the one that crashes after about a minute for no reason and then drops my WiFi
[02:57] <CyberKitsune> With a "segmenatation fault"
[02:57] <Stunts> i have one other idea
[02:57] <Stunts> could it be that the kernal is using a incompatable refresh rate
[02:57] <EagleScreen> CyberKitsune: then remove it and install network-manager-kde (KDE 3 version) it is rock solid
[02:57] <Stunts> cause thats kind of what it looks like
[02:58] <cor> Stunts, was gonna suggest you stop grub and edit command line
[02:58] <Stunts> i did that a few times
[02:58] <cor> choose a totally basic video mode
[02:58] <cor> hmm
[02:58] <Stunts> has to in order to force acpi on
[02:58] <cor> it has acpi?
[02:58] <Stunts> yea
[02:58] <Stunts> the bios date is 99 so it doesnt enable it by defualt
[02:59] <Stunts> but the bios options has a check on enable acpi
[02:59] <cor> you tried and Slackware distros?
[02:59] <cor> My first laptop (which I still own) doesn't play nice unless it's Slack
[02:59] <Stunts> no havnt tried that
[03:00] <Stunts> havnt heard of the distro
[03:00] <Stunts> il have to google it
[03:00] <cor> woah!, you mean THE distro!
[03:00] <Stunts> ?
[03:00] <cor> and then there was Debian, and so on
[03:00] <Stunts> yea, i got used to alot of linux on my jailbroken ipod
[03:00] <cor> Slack is one of the original Linux distros, very UNIX-like.
[03:01] <Stunts> but the system partitino is too small
[03:01] <Stunts> so im heading for linux on comp
[03:01] <cor> nah
[03:01] <cor> right. gotcha
[03:03] <Stunts> o btw does slack have a nice ui like ubuntu when u are on windwos and insert the disk
[03:03] <Stunts> cause my cdrom is kinda fried
[03:03] <cor> Like Kubuntu, Slack uses KDE by default.
[03:03] <cor> but for install, last time I checked, it was text
[03:03] <Stunts> ive been kinda rigging my computer to even run them
[03:04] <Stunts> the bios doesnt seam to interface well with other cdrom drivees other than the original
[03:04] <cor> Does it boot from USB?
[03:04] <Stunts> least not till windows boots up
[03:04] <Stunts> no
[03:04] <cor> darn
[03:04] <Stunts> it was made in the 90's
[03:04] <Stunts> lol
[03:04] <cor> that's the best way to play with Linux distros
[03:04] <cor> save a fortune on CDs
[03:04] <Stunts> yea
[03:04] <Stunts> i use my other laptops dvd-ram drive with it
[03:05] <Stunts> but nativly it hates it
[03:05] <cor> and the environmental impact, of course
[03:05] <Stunts> if i try to install an os like windows 98 using it
[03:05] <Stunts> it has errors tryn to copy files
[03:05] <cor> II got one of those USB to IDE/SATA adaptors. cheap, and truly amazing
[03:05] <Stunts> i had to install windows 98 on it on my othe rlaptop, and plug hard drive into this one
[03:05] <cor> if you can boot from USB, the possibilities...
[03:05] <Stunts> then it detects hardware
[03:05] <Stunts> and worked
[03:06] <cor> crazy!
[03:06] <Stunts> i got one of those adapters too, saves alot of time
[03:06] <Stunts> i only put 98 on it so i could put win2k3 and xp on it
[03:06] <cor> yeah, great for ad-hoc setups. In fact I got a second free, so I use one permanently, to keep my movies and stuff handy
[03:07] <Stunts> yea, mkaes me think of my external drive
[03:07] <Stunts> i leanred the hard way
[03:07] <Stunts> never bring it to school
[03:07] <Stunts> someone tripped on the power cable
[03:08] <Stunts> and it locked the spindle up
[03:08] <cor> Another thing I can't believe is that I didn't know about "tee". I just wiped 20% of the code from this script! way kewl
[03:08] <cor> memory sticks all the way!
[03:08] <Stunts> i have over 300gb of data on that drive...
[03:08] <cor> ouch! I keep two copies of everything.
[03:09] <Stunts> i would, but my good laptops hard drive is 92gb
[03:09] <Stunts> and my external is 500
[03:09] <cor> So get a 1TB and mirror everything into it! the peace of mind is worth the cash
[03:09] <Stunts> most of it was backups, and alot of halo ce tags, that i worked on for a while, took forever and then my clan got pissed when they foudn that out
[03:10] <Stunts> cause i had about 90% of the tags
[03:10] <cor> that means nothing to me, but it sounds like a loss
[03:10] <Stunts> halo ce tags are like linux source
[03:10] <Stunts> not in the coding format, just the structure
[03:10] <cor> ahhh halo! goma, r8!?
[03:11] <cor> game, rather
[03:11] <Stunts> yea
[03:11] <Stunts> custom edition
[03:11] <cor> withya
[03:11] <Stunts> we make things from scratch like weird vehicles
[03:11] <Stunts> we have jets and stuff
[03:11] <Stunts> its pretty cool
[03:11] <cor> neat
[03:11] <Stunts> im currently tryn to animate my puddle jumper from stargate atlantis
[03:11] <Stunts> but thats another story
[03:11] <cor> good luck!
[03:12] <Stunts> i talk to much
[03:12] <cor> yeah, me too. But only for brief spells
[03:13] <cor> then I code too much, and that's okay
[03:13] <Stunts> yea i know someone that could help me out in all this
[03:13] <Stunts> but they hate me for some reason
[03:13] <Stunts> and say im annoying
[03:13] <cor> heh
[03:13] <cor> make it worth their while
[03:13] <Stunts> he had to deal with me in summerschool... hehehe
[03:14] <Stunts> had to retake alg2 second semester..
[03:14] <Stunts> this under slackware?
[03:15] <cor> ?
[03:15] <Stunts> the linux distro
[03:15] <cor> what's the question?
[03:15] <Stunts> the linux distro u mentioned slack, right?
[03:16] <Zeik> Is it possible to install a MySql server using Adept and if so what is the program called?
[03:16] <cor> sure
[03:17] <cor> Slackware is Linux like any other. You can install whatever you like.
[03:17] <spacelime> Hello. I've got some trouble with sound. Seems to work find in Amarok and system sounds... but in any browser no sound works. even dropping an .ogg file in firefox for example.
[03:17] <cor> It has a basic package management system, too. but not so sophisticated as the apt family
[03:17] <Stunts> um slack as in slackware???cause they say its 6 cd's in all
[03:18] <cor> spacelime, did you check your system settings > Multimedia, to ensure the correct devices are being used for all apps?
[03:18] <cor> Stunts, you only need the first one or two, usually
[03:18] <Stunts> ok thanks
[03:18] <cor> spacelime, when you get a setup that works, it's usually a good idea to hit the "apply to all" option
[03:19] <spacelime> cor: yes, it should be the same for all....
[03:19] <spacelime> i don't really understand this thing about pulseaudio though
[03:19] <cor> Stunts, disc one is basic system, 2, KDE, 3 4 5 6 extra stuff
[03:19] <Stunts> based on what im tryn to do already, dual booting linux and windows server 2003 shouldnt be too difficult should it?
[03:19] <Stunts> o ok
[03:19] <spacelime> under all categories in multimedia it says first USB Audio and under it pulseaudio
[03:20] <cor> Stunts, dunoo, I used to wimp out and use my RAID drive switching, way easier.
[03:20] <spacelime> and i can't run alsamixer btw...
[03:20] <spacelime> lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[03:20] <spacelime> and i don't even have any asound*... don't know if that is normal?
[03:21] <spacelime> i used to run ubuntu before
[03:21] <Stunts> ok im on a laptop so thats outta the question,np il manage
[03:21] <cor> Stunts, so long as Windows goes in first, things usually work out okay
[03:22] <cor> spacelime, I'm no expert, I just know the multimedia setup can often arrive borked.
[03:22] <Stunts> ok cool
[03:22] <cor> and a wee nudge is often all that's required to get it working
[03:22] <spacelime> cor: ok!
[03:22] <cor> I even have rear speakers!
[03:22] <cor> ;o)
[03:22] <cor> brb
[03:22] <spacelime> cor: could you just try out alsamixer and see if it runs for you?
[03:23] <spacelime> don't know if it's necessary
[03:23]  * Stunts slaps Stunts around a bit with a large trout
[03:24] <Stunts> so thats what that does
[03:26] <cor> spacelime, it sure does
[03:26] <cor> Gee! I haven't seen that for years!
[03:26] <spacelime> cor: cool, are you on jaunty or karmic?
[03:26] <cor> Erm, Jaunty + KDE 4.3
[03:26] <spacelime> ok, thank you...
[03:26] <cor> I noticed many updated today, but haven't applied yet
[03:27] <spacelime> may be a problem with karmic then
[03:27] <cor> it isn't release yet, so it's expected, I guess.
[03:28] <spacelime> yes...
[03:28]  * cor knows that todays updates will bork his WiFi
[03:28] <cor> not that I use it a lot, but still.
[03:28] <cor> In the entire archive of dailies, it works with only one kernel I could find!
[03:29] <ritzt3ch> would there be a way to enhance the Usb install its kind of slow is that because its usb 2.0 or is there like a cool set of tweak commands
[03:29] <cor> ritzt3ch, usually usb install is superfast
[03:31] <ritzt3ch> actually my install tooook forever im on it right now but it seems slow on doing a few things
[03:32] <cor> no hard drive I own could pump data at 480Mb/s (USB2 standard) or thereabouts. so the USB shouldn't be the bottleneck
[03:33] <cor> unless the BIOS is treating it as USB1, perhaps
[03:33] <BluesKaj> i switch on the belkin wireless every 3 days or so to make sure wicd isn't affected by all the updates , so far so good
[03:33] <ritzt3ch> hmmm good point ill have to check that... is it bad if i go between laptops
[03:34] <cor> Windows update is a PlayPen compared to Kubuntu ppa!
[03:34] <cor> We have no fear!
[03:35] <CyberKitsune> lol
[03:35] <EagleScreen> system-config-printer-kde is broken for me after updating to 4.3.1
[03:35] <cor> ritzt3ch, was that a question? me no comprende
[03:36] <Stunts> omg i just realized im torrenting slack on this computer and my cd burner is on the other laptop
[03:36] <CyberKitsune> lol
[03:36] <cor> Stunts, no network?
[03:36] <Stunts> i got a network
[03:36] <Stunts> but
[03:36] <Stunts> router tends to crash often
[03:36]  * cor *phew*
[03:36] <Stunts> ...
[03:36] <FloodBotK2> Stunts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:36] <EagleScreen> i mean from 4.2 to 4.3.1
[03:36] <CyberKitsune> Is there a command to remove a package, and all assoicated configuration with it?
[03:36] <Stunts> i think it  has something to do with my other laptop wifi driver
[03:36] <cor> purge
[03:37] <cor> aptitude purge <package>
[03:37] <Stunts> cause im on windows 7 on that one
[03:37] <CyberKitsune> Will that include user configuration too?
[03:37] <cor> erm, I don't think so.
[03:37] <Stunts> yea i found out the hard way with my first router
[03:37] <Stunts> dont ess with ur wifi card
[03:38] <Stunts> with stuff like aircrack
[03:38] <Stunts> i was testing it on my router
[03:38] <cor> Stunts, when I use WiFi between my own laptops, I use the local community wifi routers, they are rock solid!
[03:38] <Stunts> and i accidently sent out encrypted arp packets and caused all routers in the vicinity to be knocked out
[03:38] <ritzt3ch> sorry haha it seems slow if i go on one laptop via usb install then go on another laptop so im wondering if its the way its install
[03:38] <Stunts> aka my neighbors randommly had their routers go out for a little while
[03:39] <Stunts> pretty ssure that was considered a DoS attack, i didnt even know i was doing it
[03:39] <Stunts> it damged my router
[03:39] <Stunts> when i did that
[03:39] <cor> ritzt3ch, sorry man, I;ve read it three times. I must have a mental block!
[03:39] <ritzt3ch> is there a way to check or try to speed up just regular browsing and such
[03:39] <cor> i still don't have a clue what you're on about
[03:40] <cor> Stunts, damaged???
[03:40] <Stunts> my router know has a tendency to do the same thing after a while, or similar,
[03:40] <Stunts> laast time i plugged it in
[03:40] <Stunts> aabout 30 min afterwords
[03:40] <Stunts> it knowcked out our router and all of my wifi on my laptops
[03:40] <cor> Stunts, perhaps you need to set a limit on the number of cincurrent connexions, or similar
[03:41] <Stunts> possibly
[03:41] <cor> *concurrent
[03:41] <cor> Torrents can really eat them up
[03:41] <Stunts> i got a better touter now
[03:41] <Stunts> yea i dont torrent so muc anymore
[03:41] <Stunts> once i foudn out half the stuff you torrent is illegal
[03:41] <spacelime> cor: think i finally found the culprit... i'm using an external usb sound card and it is assigned as "card 1", but ALSA expects it to be "card 0"... so i've edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    will restart now.. hold your thumbs for me =)
[03:42] <cor> spacelime, good luck!
[03:42] <spacelime> brb
[03:42] <Stunts> i dont know what causes my newer router to crash, i only have like 2 wifi connection on it
[03:42] <cor> Stunts, check its logs
[03:43] <Stunts> uh, not sure if it reset or what i havnt had time to do much since school started
[03:43] <Stunts> need to look at em
[03:43] <Stunts> irritates mom like nuts
[03:43] <Stunts> shes addicted to facebook
[03:43] <Stunts> and it keeps shutting off
[03:43] <Stunts> nbd tho
[03:43] <cor> dude! stop using the enter key for punctuation, please!
[03:43] <Stunts> sorry, im used to cause i use xfire alot
[03:43] <cor> it makes ye dizzy!
[03:44] <ubuntu-user> hi, why konsole does not display bold colors?
[03:44] <tim> hi
[03:44] <cor> ubuntu-user, maybe the profile isn't using the correct scheme
[03:45] <ubuntu-user> cor, please, how do I check this?
[03:45] <cor> ubuntu-user, or maybe you haven't produced any bold colours
[03:45] <cor> settings
[03:45] <Stunts> hey how you send mesages to look like they do when u slap someone
[03:45] <cor> of course!
[03:45] <cor> use /me
[03:46] <Stunts> ok i was going to make a button if i could figure this program out, the u phail button
[03:46]  * Stunts slaps Stunts around a bit with a large trout
[03:46] <cor> ahhh stage 2 IRC addiction.
[03:46] <Stunts> lol
[03:47] <Stunts> need to get irc running on ipod again...
[03:47] <ubuntu> EagleScreen:
[03:47] <ubuntu> its Luisja
[03:47] <ubuntu-user> cor, how do I check if the profile is using the correct scheme? I am sure a have bold color... I used to use gnome-terminal and I had bold on my vim colorscheme
[03:47] <ubuntu> PM pls
[03:48] <cor> ubuntu, one of the regular schemes should work fine. select one and then launch mc or something
[03:48] <cor> oops!
[03:48] <Stunts> i dont suppose you have much knowledge on compiling iwconfig on an ipod do you, im stuck cause of a library that i cant seem to port
[03:48] <cor> soz ubuntu!
[03:48] <cor> I mean ubuntu-user!
[03:48] <ubuntu-user> i see
[03:49] <spacelime> yippie! sound is back =)
[03:49] <cor> w00h00!
[03:50] <ubuntu-user> cor, I edit my konsole settings... I tryed all color scheme available but bold color just not work at all
[03:51] <cor> weird
[03:51] <cor> could be a bug. what version of Konsole?
[03:51] <ubuntu-user> 2.2.2
[03:51] <ubuntu-user> i have kubntu 9.04
[03:52] <cor> that version worked okay iirc. hmm. do you have it set to use Linux console or xterm?
[03:52] <cor> I just use the default (Xfree) works great
[03:53] <ubuntu-user> i have linux console
[03:53] <CyberKitsune> Does swap never free?
[03:53] <cor> might be worth trying Xfree
[03:54] <Stunts> any idea on how to get linux to be able to access a diagnostic partition
[03:54] <cor> Stunts, mount it
[03:54] <Stunts> last time i tried it failed
[03:54] <ubuntu-user> I had xfree but it didn't work, so I changed to linux console
[03:55] <Stunts> im thinkning my wierd bios uses drivers for some devices like cdrom, and if i can replace one for the cdrom drive for mine
[03:55] <Stunts> i could get it working
[03:55] <Stunts> big if
[03:55] <cor> ubuntu-user, dunno. I've not seen anything like that before. I'd be tempted to wipe all konsole prefs and start again.
[03:56] <Zuz|Kubuntu> is there something similar to ctrl+alt+del in kubuntu, something my laptop just freezes
[03:56] <cor> ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:56] <Zuz|Kubuntu> cool
[03:56] <cor> but you need to enable it in the system settings > display
[03:56] <Zuz|Kubuntu> and is there a virtual dvd drive like deamon lite tools for kubuntu?
[03:56] <cor> of course, you can ctrl-alt-F* to go to another console and maybe fix the issue
[03:57] <webbb> i need some answers  first i installed kde 4.3 but when i look in synaptic apps like kwin arent marked as installed ,,if i already downloaded kubuntu-desktop  shouldnt i already have them
[03:57] <cor> Zuz|Kubuntu, you just use Linux built-in mount tools
[03:58] <rav> hello. i am having trouble connecting to wpa networks with jaunty. i have an atheros card, using ath5k driver
[04:00] <CyberKitsune> Ok, wtf
[04:00] <CyberKitsune> I've been watching htop
[04:00] <CyberKitsune> the swap fills up
[04:00] <ritzt3ch> hey cor i looked in the system properties and it shows usb 2.0
[04:00] <CyberKitsune> but never frees up
[04:01] <cor> ritzt3ch, that sounds like a windows dialog!
[04:01] <rav> does anyone know how to enable the madwifi driver for wifi?
[04:01] <cor> CyberKitsune, the swap is a mystery, like God. it will bend you mind trying to figure it out methinks.
[04:02] <CyberKitsune> The only change I see is, the More swap used, the slower my system gets
[04:02] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> i should of asked how to get back if i press the ctrl alt and f8
[04:02] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> lol
[04:02] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> had to restart again
[04:02]  * cor was waiting for this!
[04:02] <cor> haha
[04:02] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> :)
[04:02] <cor> ctrl-alt-F7
[04:03] <CyberKitsune> It's about 94% now
[04:03] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> gets back?
[04:03] <CyberKitsune> and I'm back at the slow as hell speed
[04:03] <cor> sure
[04:03] <cor> CyberKitsune, that is real strange
[04:03] <CyberKitsune> My RAM has been about 50% the whole time
[04:03] <CyberKitsune> RAM hasn't changed at all
[04:03] <cor> CyberKitsune, what's the fstab line for your swap drive?
[04:04] <CyberKitsune> the swap is getting it all
[04:04] <CyberKitsune> one sec
[04:04] <CyberKitsune> UUID=388d27f1-30f9-4af0-a0e1-b63c0859a0d2 none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:04] <CyberKitsune> that?
[04:04] <cor> seems fine
[04:05] <cor> hmm
[04:05] <CyberKitsune> Swap gets used and never freed
[04:05] <CyberKitsune> system gets slower
[04:05] <CyberKitsune> RAM/CPU Load no change
[04:05] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> can k3b make ISO images?
[04:05] <cor> Zuz|Kubuntu_, yes
[04:05] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> im getting aggrevated cuz this dvd is so scratched
[04:06] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> Saint Seya hehe
[04:06] <cor> CyberKitsune, how are you watching the swap volume?
[04:06] <CyberKitsune> htop
[04:06] <cor> cool. mine sits at 0/0MB
[04:07] <CyberKitsune> You don't have a swap?
[04:07] <cor> another nice tool for this, on any platform, is phpsysinfo
[04:08] <cor> I do have a swap, but it isn't used at all
[04:08] <webbb> i need some answers  first i installed kde 4.3 but when i look in synaptic apps like kwin arent marked as installed ,,if i already downloaded kubuntu-desktop  shouldnt i already have them
[04:08] <rav> !info linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[04:09] <CyberKitsune> I don't know what's up then, Everything uses swap, RAM Usage has changed by +/- ~3Megs
[04:11] <cor> hmmm. actually, checking the volume ID in fstab, and the actual volume ID of my swap volume... they do not match!
[04:11] <cor> it looks like I really *don't* have a swap!
[04:11] <cor> works great!
[04:11] <rav> does anyone know how to enable the madwifi driver for atheros cards?
[04:12] <ritzt3ch> haha it is a windows dialog .... (is there a command to see if its running 2.0 at software level) .... tanks
[04:12] <ubuntu-user> I can connect to no wireless network through network management tool... is there a better tool?
[04:12] <ritzt3ch> or maybe hardware level too huh
[04:13] <webbb> what command do i type to find out what kde version im running
[04:13] <cor> ritzt3ch, dmesg tell you, I think
[04:13] <cor> webbb, any KDE window about box
[04:13] <rav> ubuntu-user: some recommend wicd, but it might not be the tool that's the problem. what card do you have?
[04:13] <cor> ubuntu-user, wicd is good. or do it from the command line
[04:14] <ubuntu-user> i got iwl3945
[04:14] <ubuntu-user> it worked fine on ubuntu 8.10
[04:14] <cor> bbl
[04:15] <ubuntu-user> cor, bbl?
[04:16] <dihi> Hey guys i deleted my swap partition with gparted and now im going to create on again with gparted. should i create it as primary or as extended or what? thanks
[04:17] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> will this make an iso copy of my cd image if i type it in console?  dd if=/media/cdrom0/ of=$home/zuz/SaintSeya02.iso
[04:18] <ritzt3ch> ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
[04:18] <rav> Zuz|Kubuntu_: i use k3b to create iso images
[04:19] <Zuz|Kubuntu_> i was searching for it then i found that
[04:20] <rav> Zuz|Kubuntu: i've never used dd, i just use k3b
[04:20] <Zuz|Kubuntu> just make new video dvd project and drag it down?
[04:23] <ussher> i have an external keyboard connected to a thinkpad laptop. both have NEXT and PREV keys assigned to switching desktops.  The laptop keys work the external keys cause a jump to a random desktop.
[04:23] <ussher> where would i go looking for how to fix this?
[04:24] <rav> Zuz|Kubuntu: copy the dvd, there's an option that says just create image
[04:25] <Zuz|Kubuntu> got it, thanks
[04:26] <ussher> the laptop PREV causes change in desktop from 6 to 5 to 4 to 3 to 1 to 6.  the external keyboard causes 6 to 5 to (quick jump to 4 then back) to 5 to 3 to 1 to 5
[04:26] <webbb> i think i may have messed up my system a little durring a update    isnt the command to fix error -f install
[04:27] <rav> ussher: i'd go into the keyboard shortcuts configuration, and find out exactly what combination the keys are sending in. then assign it to the action you want
[04:29] <ussher> rav: cheers, i used the keyboard shortcuts on the external to assign the keys.  its only started happening after the upgrade from kde3 to kde4 a couple of weeks ago.
[04:32] <ussher> rav: both the laptop keyboard and the external set the 'switch one desktop to the left' as the 'Global'  'Back'.  so to the "Global keyboad shortcuts" both the keys are the same.  they just do differnt things when pressed.
[04:32] <seattlegaucho> !info lynx
[04:32] <rav> ussher: upgrades seem to create issues, i'm having wifi problems myself. if reconfiguring the shortcuts doesn't fix it, then it might be what it's actually reading from the key press
[04:34] <ussher> rav: is there a way to understand what the actual output of the keypress is?  i tried xev but the 'BACK' and 'FORWARD' keys dont trigger any output there.
[04:35] <rav> ussher: the only way i know is using the custom key config, where you press what combination you want for the shortcut
[04:37] <ussher> rav:  cheers.  i just unmapped them from the shortcut and now they appear in xev, but both keys are EXACTLY the same.  Thanks anyhow for the help.
[04:40] <webbb> whats the best site to download plasmoids
[04:42] <rajesht> hey  guys
[04:42] <rubyist> dunno but if you sit in a chair a lot you'll get hemroids webbb
[04:42] <rajesht> i want to install Kubuntu over already installed ubuntu (version 9.04)
[04:42] <rajesht> i have the installation cd for kubuntu
[04:43] <rajesht> how can i do it without downloading the files from the internet using the disc
[04:43] <rajesht> thx
[05:15] <ubuntu-tester> hi
[05:15] <ubuntu-tester> my mother has bought 95 PC's from the school she used to work for.  I am testing them by installing Kubuntu, and putting a note with the specs and passwords with each.
[05:16] <ubuntu-tester> they didn't cost her much, theyll be selling on Ebay
[05:20] <alucardromero> Why doesn't the Kubuntu installer recognize my other partitions?
[05:51] <CyberKitsune> Can I upgrade from Kubuntu 9.09 to 9.10 without burning a CD?
[05:59] <shady-sheep> CyberKitsune: Surez. Except there are no such thing as 9.09
[05:59] <shady-sheep> !upgrading | CyberKitsune
[06:00] <CyberKitsune> problem
[06:00] <shady-sheep> solved!
[06:00] <CyberKitsune> Kubuntu, there is no update-manager?
[06:01] <CyberKitsune> Oh
[06:01]  * CyberKitsune reads
[06:01] <CyberKitsune> nvm
[06:01] <shady-sheep> CyberKitsune: There are commands for it, I believe.
[06:02] <shady-sheep> CyberKitsune: Looks like "update-notifier-kde -u"
[06:11] <CrypTom> hi all, I have got a little problem with kicker: I can't add sleep, logout, shutdown to my favorites, the context menu just doesn't show up?!
[06:12] <CrypTom> how can I add it manually?
[06:13] <Mewtwo> Argh, I can't seem to connect to my wireless
[06:14] <Mewtwo> Filling in all the information properly (using the default wireless manager)
[06:14] <Mewtwo> this... seems to be a common problem I have, ugh
[06:27] <CrypTom> I can't right click in the kickoff's "leave"-section, no context menu shows up?! Is this normal?
[06:44] <administrator__> kityandhero
[06:50] <Ozymandias_> Hey, I have been having a problem and I thought I might just ask here before posting in the forums: I recently install Kubuntu Jaunty, and whenever I startup, I see the kubuntu loading screen, which does it's thing, then I see the two circles spinning around each other (which I assume are a sort of loading cursor) which spin for about 1 second and I can move with my cursor for 1 second, then everything freezes
[06:51] <Ozymandias_> I doubt that anyone can diagnose my problem with such little information, but can someone suggest how I should go about finding out what's going wrong?
[06:52] <Ozymandias_> Alt-F1 does nothing, so I assume that kubuntu is genuinly frozen, rather than there being a video problem
[06:52] <Ozymandias_> *in the first bit, I meant to say that I can control the loading cursor with my mouse for 1 second before it freezes
[07:12] <noaXess> good morning
[07:30] <noaXess> any idea, why my auto updates doesn't work?
[07:31] <noaXess> it is enabled, but i need always do it manualy over update-manager or command line: sudo apt-get update...
[08:13] <angelo> hey
[08:13] <angelo> good morning
[08:32] <Guest39995> hey guys, i'm trying to get KWallet to load on system startup without asking me the password everytime i login into kubuntu. Does somebody know how to get this right? thanks
[08:39] <Mr-S> got aquestion about dual monitor and the oss radeon driver ( got xpress 200m ). Can this be set in xorg.conf ???
[08:39] <Mr-S> oh using Jaunty here
[08:40] <noaXess> any idea, why my auto updates doesn't work?
[08:40] <noaXess> it is enabled, but i need always do it manualy over update-manager or command line: sudo apt-get update...
[08:42] <Trijntje> hi all, i'm new to kubuntu. Is there a way to set the 'windows' or meta key as shortcut for Kmenu?
[08:43] <yoos> @Trijntje: right-click on the Kmenu > Application Launcher Settings > Keyboard Shortcut :)
[08:43] <Mr-S> Trijnthe : tru Kmenu -> System Setitings -> Input actions you set keyboard actions/shortcuts there
[08:44] <Trijntje> yoos, Mr-S, with both those options i cannot simply set meta as key, it has to be meta+m or something like that
[08:45] <Mr-S> yep your right ..mmhhhhh
[08:46] <Trijntje> Cause i thought i would replicate the one nice feature in vista ;) namely hit meta and type the name to start a program
[08:47] <yoos> wouldn't that be krunner in KDE? Alt+F2
[08:47] <Mr-S> it seems that this will take some more effort, as it requirs meta+key. That means one will have to dig into the source, I suspect. cant help there
[08:47] <Mr-S> krunner is alt=F1 by default
[08:48] <Mr-S> ah alt+F1 i mean
[08:48] <yoos> hm strange, I have alt+F1 as the launcher for Kmenu XD
[08:48] <Mr-S> alt+F2 will be quicklauncher :)
[08:49] <Trijntje> hmm, digging into source sounds bad :P
[08:49] <Mr-S> yep, you will need 1xmega cup of coffee, 34 asperines and a nurse
[08:50] <Trijntje> and even if i can get it to accept just meta, it will probably conflict with every met+ somekey binding there is
[08:50] <Mr-S> most likely due to timing of the key press
[08:51] <Mr-S> you can try meta+alt ...
[08:51] <Trijntje> nope, doesnt accept that
[08:52] <Mr-S> nop not working.. will result inmeta+alt+key
[08:52] <Mr-S> thunk you have to live with meta+F1
[08:53] <Trijntje> I think your right, well too bad
[08:53] <Mr-S>  well meta+space does the trick
[08:53] <Mr-S> at least you dont have to break you hand with meta+F1 combi
[08:54] <Trijntje> i've set it to alt+space now, ill see how that works
[08:55] <Trijntje> Thanks for the help yoos and Mr-S
[08:55] <Mr-S> good luck m8 :)
[09:36] <Creap> I added the launchpad backports to sources.list, ran dist-upgrade and got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263644/
[09:37] <Creap> What's wrong?
[09:40] <Creap> when I try upgrading again I get lots of "unmet dependencies"
[09:40] <Creap> :-\
[09:49] <davidzhang> Hello
[10:25] <vistakiller> hi
[10:25] <vistakiller> is any problem with new kde 4.3.1 update?
[10:30] <theadmin> Did anyone notice that if you use classic menu then there is no way to launch KSystemSetting via it? Will that be fixed anytime soon?
[10:30] <noaXess> any idea, why my auto updates doesn't work?
[10:30] <noaXess> it is enabled, but i need always do it manualy over update-manager or command line: sudo apt-get update...
[10:31] <theadmin> noaXess, same thing here. No idea.
[10:32] <noaXess> theadmin: i have two machines that have same problem
[10:32] <theadmin> And that makes 3. That means it's a KDE/Kubuntu bug, not your fault
[10:38] <theadmin> by the way, Kubuntu network manager fails to see my wired connection (eth0), i see it in wicd fine though, what's the deal?
[10:40] <theadmin> ...why do i often ask questions nobody online can answer XD
[10:45] <vistakiller> :P
[10:48] <StateS> hello, I finally got Kubuntu to boot correctly :D, but now sound in flash does not work...
[10:49] <TunaTom> \join #vollerthun
[10:49] <StateS> it works in the system, but not in flash
[10:49] <xiantia> slt all
[10:49] <StateS> Kubuntu 9.10 alpha4, i386
[10:50] <theadmin> What browser?
[10:50] <theadmin> Because, in Konqueror, flash always was buggy for me and worked normally only with firefox
[10:52] <StateS> firefox, arora, and Konquerer are all failing at this...
[10:53] <theadmin> StateS, have you tried reinstalling flash? maybe it was somehow damaged?
[10:54] <StateS> haven't tried reinstalling it... video works just fine in flash, as well as flash games... but there's just no sound
[10:54] <theadmin> also, try the following:
[10:54] <theadmin> !info flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[10:55] <airtonix> intrepid 8.10, just did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop... reboot...can't get kde to load
[10:55] <airtonix> please advise next steps
[10:56] <theadmin> airtonix you mean you don't know how to load or it just doesn't?
[10:56] <airtonix> theadmin, it won't load. giving error in an X11 window about kdeautostart4 can't start
[10:57] <StateS> brb
[10:57] <theadmin> airtonix, seems installation failed or something...
[10:57] <airtonix> theadmin, yes. now in gnome again, all my tty are gone
[10:58] <airtonix> theadmin, well not gone just not accessible via alt+f1-6
[10:58] <theadmin> airtonix, if TTY are gone something is definetly wrong there
[10:58] <airtonix> theadmin, i can load terminals via gnome-terminal though
[10:59] <theadmin> isn't it supposed to be CTRL+alt+f1-f6?
[10:59] <StateS> back... so, the extrasound thing didn't work...
[10:59] <airtonix> yes, it tries to switch to the tty but it comes back to gnome
[11:00] <theadmin> StateS: Then i dunno. I'm kinda a noob myself.
[11:01] <theadmin> airtonix, well, try removing kubuntu packages with synaptic and installing them again, something is really fishy there
[11:02] <eragon> I have truble whit my sound ..http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/263672/
[11:03] <theadmin> eragon, what exactly is the problem? Not playing?
[11:03] <timoxa> Привет
[11:04] <eragon> yes.. not in konqueror or amarock or vlc
[11:04] <eragon> or if i use test
[11:04] <theadmin> timoxa: Привет конечно но здесь вообщето по английски говорят... (Speak english please)
[11:05] <StateS> brb
[11:05] <theadmin> eragon: Fine then... You might need some drivers maybe.
[11:08] <eragon> yeah how do i get them?
[11:10] <eragon> realtec
[11:11] <theadmin> eragon: dunno, google maybe... I'll also take a look at our repos maybe there is something there
[11:12] <eragon> realtek*
[11:12] <theadmin> meh, nothing found neither for "realtec" nor "realtek"
[11:13] <xiantia> hi, after new install of kubuntu, i not have window manager with kde, have you an idea ?
[11:14] <theadmin> xiantia - 9.04 or 9.10? KDE 4.2 or 4.3?
[11:14] <tdn> How do I rip a dvd in divx or H.264?
[11:14] <xiantia> 9.10 and kde 4.3
[11:15] <xiantia> heum no 9.04 and kde 4.3
[11:15] <theadmin> xiantia: Plasma does not start by itself in 4.3, a well-known bug. You need to use krunner to run it
[11:16] <theadmin> alt+f2
[11:18] <theadmin> xiantia: type "plasma" in window appeared and press enter. Hopefully helps.
[11:26] <wiseallec> alright, so i got the sound to work...
[11:26] <wiseallec> the pcm volume was all the way down to 0 for some reason
[11:28] <eragon> ahh network clicked
[11:33] <eragon> think i found a sulution..:)
[11:33] <xiantia> theadmin : plasma not found in krunner
[11:36] <theadmin> xiantia, not found? You typed it there right? At any way, if it's not found, you'll have to install it again... just run "Konsole" with Krunner and try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:36] <theadmin> Something's wrong there %)
[11:37] <theadmin> If Konsole doesn't run either it means you either not have KDE at all or it is seriously damaged there
[11:38] <xiantia> theadmin thx , i have konsole and install desktop ....
[11:39] <theadmin> xiantia: Wait. If Plasma (the window manager) did not start then... what are you using right now? GNOME or something?
[11:49] <eragon> how do i install a shell?
[11:55] <theadmin> eragon: what kind of a shell
[11:56] <eragon> shell script
[11:56] <eragon> called install
[11:57] <theadmin> eragon: just, uhm, run it... With dolphin
[11:58] <theadmin> eragon: Might as well need to make it executable, to do so, use "chmod +x filename" (in Konsole of course)
[11:59] <eragon> oki
[11:59] <eragon> so chmod +x install U(its located in public folder when i downloaded it..
[12:02] <eragon> how do i enter public in terminal?
[12:04] <theadmin> cd /folder/name/here
[12:07] <eragon> tryed cd /public
[12:07] <eragon> dident work
[12:07] <theadmin> not quite right
[12:07] <theadmin> Is the folder inside your home folder?
[12:08] <eragon> yes
[12:08] <eragon> and same user name as here
[12:08] <theadmin> then you should do the following command to get there: "cd ~/public"
[12:11] <CedricWoSto> Hi everyone. I want to modify an applet. This applet opens kate (kate sessions applet settings). Instead of executing the line kate -s, I would like to execute kate with additional options. I have tried to modify /usr/share/kde4/services/katesessions.desktop without success. Any idea ?
[12:12] <theadmin> CedricWoSto: Have you edited it with root priveleges?
[12:13] <CedricWoSto> yes
[12:13] <CedricWoSto> thadmin : Then I removed the applet from the menu, and add it again.
[12:14] <theadmin> CedricWoSto: then no idea. I'm making general guesses... I'm a noob.
[12:14] <eragon> realtek-linux-audiopack-5.12 and i must get inside this one 2..
[12:14] <CedricWoSto> theadmin: ok :D
[12:16] <theadmin> eragon: Just cd realtek-linux-audiopack-5.12
[12:16] <eragon> tryed that dident work.. but got in..
[12:17] <eragon> usded cd ~/public/realtek-linux-audiopack-5.12
[12:17] <theadmin> eragon: Good. Now just chmod +x whatever_was_the_filename and "./filename"
[12:18] <eragon> chmod +x install "./install"?
[12:19] <eragon>  or    chmod +x ./install
[12:19] <eragon> ?:D
[12:19] <theadmin> eragon: first one. But those two on separate lines XD
[12:20] <eragon> so in console i do like this?
[12:20] <eragon> chmod +x install
[12:20] <eragon> ./install
[12:20] <theadmin> yes
[12:21] <eragon> now somethings happend
[12:22] <theadmin> eragon: something good or something bad? O_O :D
[12:23] <eragon> depends on how Around 5 pages of lines running over the screen is:p
[12:23] <theadmin> eragon: Ah.... guess it installs whatever it is you're trying to install
[12:23] <eragon> mhm
[12:24] <eragon> but get error
[12:24] <theadmin> eragon: what does it say
[12:25] <theadmin> eragon: what does it say
[12:26] <eragon> pmed you whit link..
[12:27] <theadmin> eragon: do "sudo su" first, then "./install" again
[12:29] <eragon> oki trying now..
[12:29] <eragon> you dident see little:p
[12:29] <eragon> That was only last 1000 lines:p
[12:30] <eragon> goes 50 lines per secund or so:p
[12:31] <Guest60805> hi
[12:31] <theadmin> eragon: That's makefile... it compiles and installs stuff.
[12:33] <moe> any one here ??
[12:34] <theadmin> moe: I am
[12:34] <Guest71667> lol
[12:34] <Guest71667> only u
[12:34] <Guest71667> from ?
[12:35] <bazhang> Guest71667, did you have a support question?
[12:35] <Guest71667> thead
[12:35] <theadmin> Meh, there are a lot of people they just don't talk. It doesn't matter where i'm from. If you have Kubuntu questions, ask.
[12:35] <Guest71667> this is just for kubuntu questions !
[12:35] <bazhang> Guest71667, yes
[12:35] <Guest71667> i havr gnome btw :D
[12:36] <Guest71667> *have
[12:36] <theadmin> Guest71677, asking in #ubuntu might be more appropriate then
[12:36] <Guest71667> i have one quas
[12:37] <Guest71667> how can i install from the source code
[12:37] <Guest71667> every whr they talk aboud extract then run command in terminal
[12:37] <Guest71667> ./confige
[12:37] <Guest71667> make and make installa
[12:37] <bazhang> Guest71667, install what
[12:37] <Guest71667> but it's dosn't work
[12:37] <theadmin> Guest71667: Unless you can compile the code, you can't do so, i think
[12:38] <Guest71667> i mean source code in general
[12:38] <bazhang> !compile > Guest71667
[12:38] <Guest71667> ok i have a wine 1.0.1
[12:38] <Guest71667> i cant find last release in debian package
[12:38] <j89liu> hi
[12:38] <Guest71667> sorry about my language cos am not good in english
[12:38] <bazhang> Guest71667, you wish to have most recent version of wine?
[12:39] <Guest71667> y xD
[12:39] <Guest71667> i need 1.0.28
[12:39] <Guest71667> but i cant find it else source code !
[12:39] <bazhang> Guest71667, then get the wine repos and install from there; help in #winehq
[12:40] <Guest71667> i try to remove and reinstall
[12:40] <Guest71667> and have same v 1.0.1
[12:40] <Guest71667> :S
[12:40] <j89liu> 大家为什么不用中文聊
[12:40] <theadmin> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/intrepid/wine_1.1.28~winehq0~ubuntu~8.10-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:40] <bazhang> Guest71667, you should follow my instructions
[12:40] <bazhang> j89liu, #ubuntu-cn
[12:41] <Guest71667> thnx alot
[12:41] <Guest71667> and another quastion
[12:41] <Guest71667> i hear about game heros of battlearth
[12:41] <theadmin> woops wrong link
[12:41] <theadmin> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/jaunty/wine_1.1.28~winehq0~ubuntu~9.04-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:41] <bazhang> Guest71667, via wine?
[12:41] <j89liu> 我是新手 在北京
[12:42] <bazhang> j89liu, /join #ubuntu-cn   here is English only
[12:42] <Guest71667> thead
[12:42] <Guest71667> sorry
[12:42] <theadmin> bazhang: It looks like he/she doesn't understand...
[12:43] <Guest71667> me !!!
[12:43] <bazhang> !cn | j89liu
[12:43] <j89liu> my english is bad
[12:43] <Guest71667> thead my quastion was
[12:43] <bazhang> j89liu,  see above; /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:44] <Guest71667> about program called garena
[12:44] <Guest71667> did you hear about it befor ??
[12:44] <bazhang> Guest71667, via wine?
[12:44] <theadmin> Guest71667, here is not a place to ask i think.
[12:44] <j89liu> thanks
[12:47] <j89liu> about qt instal help me
[13:11] <eragon> can someone go whit me step by step how to "install" sound From a fresh install?
[13:16] <onlooker> Any Phonon experts in the house?
[13:18] <benkinooby> eragon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound helped me a lot
[13:19] <benkinooby> eragon: got to the link Sound Troubleshooting Procedure and check your alsa version
[13:19] <benkinooby> eragon: type "cat /proc/asound/version" to your terminal
[13:20] <benkinooby> eragon: and don't use the " " ;)
[13:20] <eragon> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-r5.12rc4.
[13:20] <eragon> Compiled on Sep  2 2009 for kernel 2.6.28-11-generic (SMP).
[13:20] <eragon> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-r5.12rc4.
[13:20] <eragon> Compiled on Sep  2 2009 for kernel 2.6.28-11-generic (SMP).
[13:20] <FloodBotK2> eragon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <benkinooby> eragon: your alsa is outdated! here is how to fix it. it worked for me and solved my problem http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/05/09/upgrade-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[13:21] <jtheuer> Hi, has anyone recently used a bluetooth headset with jaunty (or karmic)?
[13:22] <benkinooby> eragon: it is step by step and very simple.
[13:22] <jtheuer> pairing works fine but I'm not sure what I'd need in order to use it with skype or ekiga
[13:22] <jtheuer> is pulseaudio the way to go?
[13:23] <benkinooby> eragon: please tell me the output when you type "uname -r" in your console
[13:23] <benkinooby> jtheuer: did you allready try to use it?
[13:23] <eragon> 2.6.28-11-generic
[13:24] <benkinooby> eragon: ok, stop updating alsa.
[13:24] <jtheuer> benkinooby: yes, the current status is that skye shows some bluetooth entries but they don't work, and the also-mixers son't show anything.
[13:24] <eragon> havent started:S
[13:24] <onlooker> I'm pretty sure multiple applications could use the sound at some point, now I'm only limited to one app
[13:24] <jtheuer> benkinooby: additionally I found a blog which says that pulseaudio is incompatible with skype
[13:25] <benkinooby> eragon: your system is using an outdated kernel. the output of my uname -r is 2.6.28-15-generic
[13:25] <jtheuer> so I'm overall confused
[13:25] <eragon> what should i do?
[13:25] <benkinooby> jtheuer: pulseaudio also didn't work for me & skype...
[13:26] <benkinooby> eragon: update your ubuntu or kubunut or whatever...
[13:26] <eragon> i have 9.4:S
[13:26] <jtheuer> benkinooby: how do you use skype +bt?
[13:26] <airtonix> wee got it working
[13:27] <jtheuer> I see "btheadset, bluetooth and rawbliuetooth" in the skype options, neither work
[13:27] <airtonix> but, is it normal that right clicking on the desktop gives no context menu?
[13:27] <benkinooby> eragon: this is the *buntu version but not the kernel version. the point is, that your updated alsa will not work if you go for the new kernel.
[13:27] <benkinooby> jtheuer: i have up ;). i'm not all that experienced...
[13:27] <eragon> how can i update the kernel?:S
[13:28] <benkinooby> eragon: what *bunut are u using?
[13:28] <eragon> kubuntu
[13:28] <benkinooby> jtheuer: it is recognized by the os, right?
[13:29] <jtheuer> benkinooby: the headset?
[13:29] <benkinooby> jtheuer: y
[13:30] <jtheuer> yes, I use the "blueman-manager" it it shows up there as paired device
[13:30] <benkinooby> eragon: if you got your softwaremanager and go for update, you will se 4 blocked updates, right?
[13:30] <eragon> yes
[13:31] <benkinooby> eragon: if you look at this updates, you will see this are kernel updates...
[13:31] <eragon> benkinooby: yes all 4
[13:32] <kamlesh> hello all :)
[13:32] <benkinooby> eragon: ok, let's do it like this. we fix alsa, and when you want to do the update later, you know how to do it.
[13:32] <jtheuer> benkinooby: did you configure alsa (.asoundrc) or can you use bt in skype directly? how is the driver called?
[13:32] <eragon> oki..
[13:33] <benkinooby> jtheuer: as i said... i don't use bluetooth anymore... it gave me to much headache and i needed a fast solution...
[13:33] <EagleScreen> jtheuer: good luck to use bluetooth in KDE4, it is stremely unstable
[13:33] <ghostcube> unstable is nice word
[13:33] <ghostcube> its simply unusable
[13:33] <eragon> benkinooby: i have set all to full and non are muted..
[13:33] <p-f> Is there a way to completely disable update-notifier-kde? It's hogging both my memory and my cpu.
[13:33] <benkinooby> jtheuer: i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[13:34] <jtheuer> EagleScreen: thanks for the info. I try to use bt with as less KDE stuff as possible, so mainly commandline stuff
[13:34] <p-f> by hogging I mean 99% cpu and 20% memory
[13:34] <benkinooby> eragon: ok, update your alsa as said before. follow http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/05/09/upgrade-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[13:34] <ghostcube> p-f: i remember in 3.x you could tell it to never come up again but this was adept upadter afaik
[13:34] <ghostcube> dont know if still in notify
[13:34] <benkinooby> eragon: this worked for me perfectly!!!
[13:35] <p-f> ghostcube, guess I'll just move it and replace it with a link to /bin/true
[13:35] <ghostcube> benkinooby: there is an alsa ppa
[13:35] <ghostcube> with newer alsa
[13:35] <ghostcube> no ned to compile it
[13:36] <benkinooby> ghostcube: what is ppa?
[13:36] <ghostcube> launchpad repo
[13:38] <onlooker> Would recompiling alsa solve my problem?
[13:38] <onlooker> Or is this phonon-related?
[13:39] <ghostcube> whats the prob
[13:40] <eragon> benkinooby: Then, we go in our personal folder and download alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utils ??
[13:40] <onlooker> ghostcube: Only one app can use the sound at a time
[13:40] <ghostcube> hmmm
[13:40] <ghostcube> shouldnt be
[13:40] <ghostcube> what version of kubunu
[13:41] <ghostcube> and what audio card
[13:41] <onlooker> Kubuntu 9.04, 64-bit
[13:41] <benkinooby> ghostcube: oh.. ok now i know what u mean! thx, i didn't know about that. i'll try it later, but for now i think it is good to use the fast way for eragon, just to make the sound work at all
[13:41] <onlooker> Sound card, right... Just a sec
[13:41] <ghostcube> you checked in systemsettings to set the alsa device primary
[13:41] <benkinooby> eragon: are you at the website?
[13:41] <eragon> yes
[13:41] <ghostcube> benkinooby: i must check again at home there i have the alsa ppa
[13:41] <eragon> done step 2
[13:42] <benkinooby> ghostcube: the problem is with eragon, not me... I'm fine with my sound :)
[13:42] <ghostcube> :)
[13:42] <ghostcube> me too all jackd :D
[13:42] <ghostcube> no phonon
[13:42] <ghostcube> -_-
[13:42] <eragon> benkinooby: Then, we go in our personal folder and download alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utils ??
[13:42] <eragon> iam kinda stuck:
[13:43] <ghostcube> you should go to ~/
[13:43] <ghostcube> there do the svn or git checkouts from the howto
[13:43] <ghostcube> or the wget dont know
[13:43] <ghostcube> better ould be to create an folder sources
[13:43] <ghostcube> and put it into this
[13:43] <benkinooby> eragon: the best thing is, if you copy the lines in the blue area step by step
[13:43] <jtheuer> Apart from all by bluetooth concerns: what the hell is this pulseaudio stuff good for?
[13:43] <MeowKItten> Im having trouble with my dvd drive,whenever i close the tray it just ejects back out on its own.
[13:44] <onlooker> ghostcube: If you mean Multimedia in System Settings, all I can choose from is HDA Intel analog or digital or Pulseaudio
[13:44] <eragon> and not read the between?
[13:44] <ghostcube> onlooker: bring intel audio analog to the first position
[13:44] <ghostcube> in every thing that is mentioned there
[13:44] <onlooker> ghostcube: It is already
[13:44] <benkinooby> eragon: read it, it is the explanation :)
[13:44] <ghostcube> and you still only can let one app use sound
[13:45] <onlooker> Pretty much
[13:45] <ghostcube> onlooker: what repositories have you opened to get updates
[13:45] <ghostcube> and what kde version is this
[13:46] <benkinooby> eragon: ok, join #temp_alsa
[13:46] <benkinooby> eragon: we don't need to spam this channel
[13:47] <onlooker> ghostcube: universe, multiverse, security updates
[13:47] <onlooker> KDE 4.2.2
[13:50] <airtonix> is konqueror responsible for rendering the desktop and its icons?
[13:51] <MeowKItten> Im having trouble with my dvd drive,whenever i close the tray it just ejects back out on its own.
[13:51] <MeowKItten> is there a way i coudl veiw error messages made my my dvdrom? or could this be a driver issue?
[13:52] <airtonix> k menu -> search system log
[13:54] <MeowKItten> 	These arethe 3 things that came up,does this give any important info for my problem? [    2.536112] ata2.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH15F, EG00, max UDMA/100	[    2.586160] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH15F     EG00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5	[    2.597501] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[13:54] <MeowKItten> i just searched DVD,is ther somethign erlse i should be seachig for inhte tlogs?
[13:54] <airtonix> unfilter, observe logs while opening closing tray
[13:55] <airtonix> also
[13:56] <airtonix> gah i forget how to get the device id
[13:56] <airtonix> manufacturerID : deviceID
[14:08] <EagleScreen> Gnome battery applet shows a couple of valuable information about battery, can I obtain it in Kubuntu or from terminal?
[14:09] <Guest28129> Moro
[14:10] <Guest28129> Miten wineä käytetään?
[14:10] <llutz> EagleScreen: look at  /sys
[14:11] <Guest28129> Ei toimi
[14:11] <Guest28129> Tako
[14:11] <Guest28129> TAkoski
[14:11] <Guest28129> Tarvin apua
[14:11] <Guest28129> Miten wineä käytetää?
[14:11] <takoski> ?
[14:11] <Guest28129> Wineä
[14:12] <Guest28129> En saa sitä toimimiaa
[14:12] <llutz> !fi > Guest28129
[14:12] <Guest28129> TAi en osaa
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:29] <MeowKItten> is there anyway i could make my machine boot an iso image at startup without burning a cd?
[14:34] <MeowKItten> how do i run a .sh with the force comand?
[14:37] <MeowKItten> im trting to install Enenmy teritory and im gettign a md5 error,id like to try totinstall it anyways becuase my internet is very slow and it takes 2 days to download such things:  sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[14:37] <MeowKItten> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: aee36de6d84711463e22fa0844116239 is different from b8b59bc515d86cc845fb52f5d2c14423
[14:43] <eragon> Someone know a good IM for kubuntu
[14:43] <BluesKaj> MeowKItten,  dialup ?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> eragon, pidgin
[14:43] <llutz> eragon: kopete, pidgin
[14:44] <eragon> someone else?
[14:46] <MeowKItten> BluesKaj: yup,sois it possiel to run this sh while ignoring the incorecxt md5?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> MeowKItten, from my exprience with dialup there are dropped packets  , it's almost impossible to get an exact md5 sum ,
[14:51] <MeowKItten> yes im aware,so is it possible to skip the md5 check?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> MeowKItten, yes , I would try to run the app
[14:52] <MeowKItten> whe i run it it automaticly does an md5
[14:52] <BluesKaj> there is no other option ?
[14:53] <eeos> I have to install *ubuntu on a small server connected to the local network. The server has no monitor or keyboard or dvd/cd reader or usb, but is connected to the local network. All the other computers on the network are laptops, so I cannot take monitor or keyboad from elsewhere. Does anyone know how could I install?
[14:53] <MeowKItten> nope i run the files andthe first hen it dpoes is run a md5
[14:53] <MeowKItten> at least the fuirst thing it outputs is a md5 check
[14:57] <BluesKaj> can you run the app
[14:58] <Dragnslcr> If the md5 check fails, there's a good chance that the installation won't work anyway
[14:59] <NekawA> so I think i've installed alot of packages that aren't necessary is there an easy way to check/clean/remove them?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, there's also a good chance that it will run
[14:59] <Dragnslcr> Depends on where the error is
[15:00] <Dragnslcr> If it's in an icon, you'd probably be okay. If it's in a code segment, it'll probably crash and burn
[15:00] <BluesKaj> it's a game
[15:11] <enrique_> s
[15:12] <genii> Hm.
[15:14] <fogedi> Hi. Before i start i'd like to note that i'm not a linux/unix veteran but anyways. I'm having a problem that i can't resolve by googling my way around. I have ATI Radeon 4870, i just upgraded to the latest version of Kubuntu, when i try to boot the graphics become similar to when the graphics card is fried and i get stuck.
[15:15] <fogedi> when installing i decided to keep some config files, i have tried to remove xorg-driver it doesn't find the package and i i've also tried to temporarily initialize the open source drivers so basically i'm stuck, now i would like to ask if someone has an idea how to fix this or if i can reinstall the package from scratch in console
[15:19] <BluesKaj> fogedi, try : sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[15:27] <fogedi> sudo aptitde install xseerverxorg-video etc did not work
[15:27] <fogedi> is there no way for me to revert to the old graphics
[15:27] <fogedi> just the non proprietary stuff
[15:33] <suman> after i upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 from 8.04, i cant connect to yahoo with kopete
[15:33] <suman> anyone has a solution to this
[15:36] <delicowa> does any one know hoe to disable the touchpad in kubuntu
[15:40] <Dragnslcr> suman- I'm surprised you were able to connect with 8.04. Yahoo changed their protocol, so you need the KDE 4.3 version of Kopete
[15:42] <suman> Dragnslcr: yea i could iwth 8.04
[15:44] <NekawA> i'm having a ruff time trying to build the new kopete
[15:45] <ambergris> anyone have a solution for the 4.3.1 KNetworkManager crashing w/ wireless issue that JUST popped up?
[15:46] <ambergris> according to this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203885
[15:46] <ambergris> kubuntu is giving us a package of out-of-date source that has a bug that's already been fixed
[15:46] <NekawA> i can't even get the thing installed
[15:48] <suman> i even tried pidgin, i cannot connect either
[15:49] <NekawA> i connect to yahoo w/ kopete 3.5 still and it works yahoo Admin keeps msg'ing me telling me it's old version
[15:49] <NekawA> quite annoying
[15:56] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | ambergris
[15:57] <ambergris> thanks, I'm aware of wicd, but would prefer that knetworkmanager, which is more nicely integrated with kde and easier to connect to the different network types i need, just worked
[15:57] <ambergris> thanks for the suggestion, though
[15:58] <genii> ambergris: You may want to enquire in #kubuntu-devel . for what it's worth
[15:58] <ambergris> oh, good idea. thanks
[15:58] <genii> np
[16:00] <genii> NekawA: For more info on that http://mattr.info:8080/blog/2009/06/24/kopete-and-yahoo/
[16:03] <NekawA> yea...been trying to compile new kde for awhile having serious difficulties
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ambergris, that broken netpakg notice has been around for weeks , and it doesn't seem to be getting much attn and wicd is just as flexible if not more than the kde network manager, IME .
[16:06] <ambergris> ok. i just got the updates 2 days ago, so wasn't aware it had been around that long
[16:06] <ambergris> i may just switch back to wicd for a while, then
[16:06] <ambergris> might look into compiling the source and rolling a package in the meantime
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ambergris, yeah, i compilesd the first wicd , but it's available in the canonical partners or 3rd party sources now
[16:09] <ambergris> cool. thanks for the info.
[16:09] <ghostcube> there is an wicd repo for ubuntu on the website i think so
[16:31] <BluesKaj> heh, just discovered the #wicd chat...shudda known :P
[16:32] <Ercolinov> Binjour
[16:33] <Ercolinov> Salut
[16:33] <genii> !fr | Ercolinov
[16:34] <Ercolinov> Ok
[16:34] <Ercolinov> Sorry
[16:34] <genii> No worries
[16:34] <Ercolinov> It's the firts time I come on IRC
[16:35] <Ercolinov> Bye
[16:53] <BluesKaj> !logs
[17:01] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, you around ?
[17:01] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[17:02] <BluesKaj> cool , I just found out here's a #wicd chat on this server and they seem quite helpul..
[17:02] <BluesKaj> helpful even :)
[17:03] <Dragnslcr> Nice
[17:04] <BluesKaj> 'spook' has some suggestions for you to try , when you're ready to tackle the acer travelmate again
[17:04] <Dragnslcr> Heh, by the end of yesterday, I was looking online for cheap USB wireless adapters
[17:06] <Dragnslcr> I'm sure it's just a driver issue, but since I only use wired at home, I don't know much about getting wireless working
[17:06] <BluesKaj> yeah , I pais 70 bucks for a belkin USB dongle type , i see it on sale now for 45
[17:07] <Dragnslcr> The other problem is that for some reason he couldn't get a DHCP address from his router at home, though it worked perfectly at my place, so that makes it a bit harder to fix stuff
[17:08] <BluesKaj> works well on this pc , I bought for my daughter's desktop when she stayed with us , rather than cat 5 all over the house
[17:09] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, crappy drivers maybe
[17:10] <Guest3289> hey guys, i'm trying to get KWallet to load on system startup without asking me the password everytime i login into kubuntu. Does somebody know how to get this right? thanks
[17:10] <Dragnslcr> Gotta be something with his router. I plugged the cable into my router and it came up immediately without any trouble
[17:10] <Dragnslcr> Guest3289- you should be able to set a wallet's password to be empty
[17:11] <BluesKaj> ok, some routers like the speestreams are crap, i had one ..I have a 2wire which is much better
[17:11] <Dragnslcr> Can't remember what brand his is. D-Link maybe. Pretty sure it was a brand that I had at least heard of
[17:12] <Dragnslcr> And it had worked fine when I installed Kubuntu a couple weeks ago
[17:12] <Guest3289> Dragnslcr ok, but is there a way to let the network manager to connect to an encrypted network without the kwallet being loaded up?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> is it a router/modem or just a router hooked to modem , cuz then there could be trouble
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> Guest3289- if the network requires a password, I think KDE's network manager will always use kwallet to save the password
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> Though I'm pretty sure you can set a wallet to not require a password, so the wallet will be opened automatically
[17:15] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- pretty sure it's a 4-port/wireless router that's separate from the modem
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, ok that's a situation I've never dealt with befor.
[17:18] <Dragnslcr> It's weird. It's probably the most basic function of a home router
[17:19] <Dragnslcr> Setting a static IP address didn't work either, so it's possible that something is physically broken
[17:19] <Dragnslcr> I was helping him over the phone, so it wasn't exactly ideal for me to troubleshoot
[17:27] <seest> hello, i was wondering if there is a alternativ for ktorrent
[17:29] <sczgilae> hi
[17:30] <Dragnslcr> !torrent | seest
[17:30] <BluesKaj> seest, ktorrent is excellent , what's the prob ?
[17:31] <seest> well i have trouble make it download from the tracker
[17:31] <seest> it says that the port is blacklisted?
[17:31] <sczgilae> anybody knows how to configure kubuntu 9.04 to re-measure automatically the K panel according to the screen?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> then you have tochange ports , seest
[17:32] <seest> okay, in the router?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> that's usually the best way yes
[17:33] <seest> okay, ill try that
[17:33] <BluesKaj> if your router can be configured to run ktorrent and open the ports that you set in it, is the best way
[17:34] <mostafa_> hello there I have a problem when I want to play a music on the headphone it plays the music on both headphone and speakers what should I do?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> you can tell the router which apps use which ports , is what I mean
[17:35] <BluesKaj> seest, which router do you use ?
[17:36] <seest> a belkin, but i've been trying this in windows a couple of times
[17:37] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: can you help me?
[17:38] <eragon> some1 say hey in a pm plz..
[17:39] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, do you have a seperate soundcard or is it onboard ?
[17:40] <mostafa_> no onboard
[17:40] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: it is onboard
[17:40] <BluesKaj> what kind of connection to your speakers , mostafa_ ?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> USB speakers or just regular miniconnector?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> miniplug
[17:43] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: I just want to play a music on headphone ! I can't catch your point
[17:44] <BluesKaj> i have ot know if it's USB speakers because they work off the motherboard and not directly from the soundcard , hence the sound still works with hps plugged in
[17:45] <BluesKaj> err - I have to know
[17:46] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: do you talk with me?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> yes mostafa_ , that was directed at you
[17:47] <BluesKaj> hps = headphones
[17:47] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: excuse me bro but I get accustomed to note the names at first of my message :D
[17:47] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: again excuse me for that :D
[17:47] <BluesKaj> ok mostafa_ , will do
[17:48] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: how can i notice the usb sound or not/?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, by the connection of your speakers to the computer
[17:49] <mostafa_> it is the inner part of my laptop
[17:49] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: it is the inner part of my laptop
[17:49] <calamari> hi
[17:49] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: and I should say that it worked well in windows
[17:49] <calamari> I upgraded from intrepid to jaunty and my taskbar disappeared.. is it gone for good, or can I restore it somehow?
[17:49] <sczgilae> anybody knows how to configure kubuntu 9.04 to re-measure automatically the K panel and resolution according to the screen? im preparing an installation of kubuntu to clone to others computers with other screens but always keep the resolution defined by the root, i need that the system autoresize automatically this (or configure that in other way)
[17:50] <BluesKaj> calamari, the taskbar or panel ?
[17:50] <calamari> BluesKaj: both, sorry
[17:52] <BluesKaj> calamari, do you see a small cashew like object in the top or bottom right corner of your screen ?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> !intelhda
[17:54] <BluesKaj> mostafa_, if you have an intelaudio chip on your laptop the read this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:56] <calamari> BluesKaj: yes, I used the upper right cashew to create a new "start" menu so I could launch apps.  There is no taskbar/panel cashew.. that one is gone
[17:57] <mostafa_> BluesKaj: yeah my card is intel thank you i check it out ;)
[17:58] <BluesKaj> calamari, right click on the cashew , add panel
[18:00] <calamari> BluesKaj: right, I could do that, but I was hoping to get my old panel back
[18:01] <eragon> Got the freaking sound to work;D
[18:01] <BluesKaj> hmm calamari well, just add the widgets you had and add the apps from the kmenu to your new one ...dunno how to recover your old panel , sorry :(
[18:06] <calamari> BluesKaj: np, thanks for your help
[18:06] <calamari> do you happen to know what the name of the kde panel application is?
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> Quasar1048: working on the update right now, I'd imagine that you'll be getting it in the next few days at the latest
[18:10] <Quasar1048> Koversation update?
[18:11] <Quasar1048> Kon*
[18:12] <calamari> bbl
[18:12] <Quasar1048> I already have the tar package for alpha 6, but I can't get it to install...
[18:13] <JontheEchidna> Quasar1048: yeah, I"ll probably throw it in a ppa somewhere before it gets to proper jaunty-backports
[18:14] <JontheEchidna> I can get it in the ppa in an hour or so
[18:14] <Quasar1048> that would be sweet!
[18:21] <Quasar1048> Can you send me a link when you do?
[18:24] <apparle> hi
[18:24] <apparle> guys
[18:26] <SonhadorPR> Anybody know how to work with the Cover Manager on Amarok 2.1.1?
[18:26] <ahmos> hi, why mobile broadband connection tab in network settings is not active?!
[18:27] <eragon> how doi play a dvd?
[18:27] <ahmos> dsl tab too
[18:29] <ahmos> hello......................
[18:29] <Synapse-119> hello everyone. I have ubuntu jaunty, using kubuntu. I wonder, if it is reasonable to upgrade the whole KDE installation to kubuntu PPA, as a regular user, not a programmer or so :)
[18:30] <ahmos> eragon install libdvdread
[18:31] <Quasar1048> ahmos: right click the icon it and make sure connections are enabled
[18:32] <eragon> could not find package
[18:32] <ahmos> quasar1048 I can't enable it
[18:34] <Quasar1048> I had trouble with my 3G at first... what got it to come up, was that I booted with it plugged in, then typed the command "sudo modprobe option" in the terminal
[18:34] <ahmos> when i choose to manage connection , window opened with wired ,wireless, vpn active but mobile broadband and dsl tabs in gray and not active
[18:34] <Quasar1048> after a few minutes, it pops up
[18:34] <Quasar1048> this is assuming it is A UBS modem...
[18:35] <Quasar1048> the "option" part will vary depending on what ubuntu identifies it as
[18:35] <ahmos> yes it is
[18:35] <ahmos> do i want a dial up program
[18:36] <Quasar1048> makes sure the "enable networking" is checked then try that...
[18:36] <Quasar1048> thats the only way I know of to get a usb 3g modem to work
[18:36] <Quasar1048> no
[18:36] <Quasar1048> you dont need it
[18:36] <Quasar1048> as long as it has been activated on a windows machine, it should work
[18:37] <Quasar1048> so kppp is not needed
[18:38] <ahmos> ok going to try ,hold on
[18:39] <Quasar1048> it will likely take it several minutes to come up.. so be patient
[18:39] <Quasar1048> Ubuntu 8.10 came up immediately... but for reason Jaunty isn't as effective...
[18:39] <Quasar1048> ah crap...
[18:39] <EagleScreen> !purekde
[18:39] <Quasar1048> already left..
[18:40] <Quasar1048> sigh.. if only this stupd tar package would co-operate...
[18:41] <calamari> hi again
[18:43] <calamari> I tried to add a new panel, but there isn't a panel option in the widget list.  So, I guess it's not installed?
[18:44] <Synapse-119> Hey people, will anybody tell me then: KDE 4.3.1 is like "non-stable"?
[18:48] <calamari> Synapse-119: I still hope for a fork of kubuntu that reverts to KDE 3.. KDE 4 is slow, buggy, and unconfigurable
[18:49] <Synapse-119> Hm, I wonder what hardware should you have to see at as "slow"... even on my 5 years old PC it works fast and nicely.
[18:50] <ahmos> quasar1048 no way
[18:51] <Quasar1048> you disconnected before I could tell...
[18:52] <Quasar1048> it may takeseveral minutes so be patient...
[18:52] <Quasar1048> 8.10 came up instantly
[18:52] <Quasar1048> but the more current ones arent as effective for some reason.
[18:52] <Quasar1048> If you CTCP me, you'll see that I am using Sprint right now
[18:53] <Quasar1048> spcsdns.net
[18:53] <calamari> I assume that jaunty DOES have the ability to show a KDE panel?
[18:54] <calamari> I shouldn't always assume, since Gnome removed the ability to edit menus for a couple ubuntu releases lol
[18:57] <ahmos> quasar1048 i'm using jaunty
[18:58] <ahmos> and i have heard that it can work easily on earlier OS
[18:59] <Quasar1048> yeah.. like i said, it was a breeze on 8.10
[18:59] <Quasar1048> pop in it, type the command, sprint popped up
[19:00] <Quasar1048> you can set it to connect automatically too.. makes it easier
[19:00] <Quasar1048> "lsusb" in the terminal/konsole to make sure its being picked up
[19:02] <ahmos> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 19d2:2000
[19:03] <Quasar1048> what company is it? Verizon? Sprint?
[19:03] <Quasar1048> mine coems out with: Bus 004 Device 004: ID 1410:4100 Novatel Wireless U727
[19:04] <Quasar1048> if your is similar, then it should connect...
[19:04] <ahmos> usb is zte mf626 mobinil operator in egypt
[19:07] <Quasar1048>  Not familiar with them, unfortunately... the best thing I can tell you is to log off and back on with the device attached, and try that again... and if that fails: Google...
[19:08] <ahmos> Quasar1048 thank you very much for your patience and your time......i really appreciate it
[19:09] <Quasar1048> no problem. :) I hope you get it working.. those 3G cards can be a pain...
[19:09] <ahmos> oh yes
[19:09] <ahmos> :D
[19:10] <Quasar1048> I gotta go inactive for a bit- bbl
[19:10] <ahmos> bye now
[19:10] <Quasar1048> bye
[19:24] <Brian_> i there a way to add a new source in the plasma workspace add-on installer  or the install new themes installer
[19:50] <Assurbanipal> hi guys,i am on kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3.1 installed and i need to share the connected printer with a vista laptop.how do i setup the samba server?plz,can smone help me?
[19:57] <rosco_y> Does anyone know where I can download MSI manuals (for my mainboard)
[19:58] <rosco_y> My little girl cleaned my office yesterday, and now I can't find a thing...
[19:59] <rosco_y> She did a great job of cleaning though...
[19:59] <rosco_y> sigh...
[20:00] <slider_> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&ei=psCeSuDDH8-PmAf8hqmkAw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=msi+motherboard+manuals&spell=1
[20:00] <slider_> there you go
[20:00] <Assurbanipal> hi guys,i am on kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3.1 installed and i need to share the connected printer with a vista laptop.how do i setup the samba server?plz,can smone help me?
[20:00] <rosco_y> slider_: Thanks a heap!
[20:01] <Assurbanipal> i installed samba packages through synaptic, i get the samba submenu in the system settings area, but it doesn't seem to work
[20:09] <genii> Assurbanipal: Make sure you have package kdenetwork-filesharing installed
[20:11] <Assurbanipal> genii: i have it already installed
[20:20] <geothom> hi everyone !!
[20:20] <geothom> Is anybody know how can install my webcamera in ubuntu 8.04?
[20:21] <geothom> My webcam is Logitech E2500
[20:24] <jhutchins> !webcam
[20:28] <seest> hello, i have now forwarded my ports in my router, but ktorrent still dosn't work?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> seest, have you set them up to the same ports in ktorrent as well ?
[20:30] <geothom> thanx ubottu
[20:31] <seest> yes, i have forwarded the standard port for ktorrent
[20:32] <BluesKaj> seest, can you explain , "ktorrent still dosn't work" ?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> what doesn't it do ?
[20:33] <seest> yes, it have a warning shield before the torrent name, and i can't press download
[20:33] <seest> or start
[20:36] <seest> it says 0 seeders, but i know there is 20 online seeders
[20:36]  * s1id3r0 is away: Gone away for now
[20:38]  * s1id3r0 is back.
[20:41] <seest> it says in ktorrent (port 6881 is blacklisted)
[20:41] <seest> ?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> seest, don't use any ports under 50,000 , they most likely will be throttled by your ISP
[20:47] <seest> okay, i try to set a higher
[20:47] <BluesKaj> I use 50100 and up
[20:48] <Dragnslcr> seest- a quick search on Google seems to tell me that it's the tracker that's blocking the port
[20:49] <Aldor> i'm trying to install ubuntu 64-bit from an external hdd, i've copies everything that was on the CD over to the root directory of the external drive, but for it gives me the error "no bootmgr found" when i try to boot from it to start install
[20:49] <seest> okay, thank you
[20:49] <Aldor> pardon the typos hehe
[20:49] <Dragnslcr> seest- http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/PortIsBlacklisted seems to be a decent explanation
[20:50] <Aldor> i just don't have any cd's to burn to atm, so i'm kind of in a jam
[20:53] <Aldor> or if i use a usb startup disc, will that still install the full version of ubuntu?
[20:55] <seest> okay, it seem like there is a connection now
[20:55] <seest> nice, and thanks
[21:23] <b_raven> Hey, think I might have just destroyed my home computer, again. Getting a "failed: Invalid argument" from mount on boot, then a "no init found." :\
[21:24] <hbbk> hi
[21:25] <hbbk> a little problem for me :(
[21:25] <hbbk> I just come to make an update/upgrade and configuring libc6 make a segfault
[21:26] <hbbk> dpkg --configure -a
[21:26] <hbbk> Paramétrage de libc6 (2.9-4ubuntu6.1) ...
[21:26] <hbbk> dpkg : erreur de traitement de libc6 (--configure) :
[21:26] <hbbk>  sous-processus post-installation script tué par le signal (Erreur de segmentation)
[21:26] <hbbk> dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de libc6-dev :
[21:26] <FloodBotK2> hbbk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <hbbk>  libc6-dev dépend de libc6 (= 2.9-4ubuntu6.1) ; cependant :
[21:27] <hbbk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/264002/
[21:27] <hbbk> I know this is in french but sorry, any idea ?
[21:32] <EagleScreen> hbbk: to set terminal in English temporary, run command "LANG=C"
[21:34] <hbbk> here it is in english : http://paste.ubuntu.com/264005/
[21:35] <EagleScreen> wow
[21:35] <jose> need help with termial
[21:36] <EagleScreen> hbbk: where did you get that libc6 version?
[21:37] <hbbk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/264009/ my source list
[21:37] <hbbk> http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libc6 2.9-4ubuntu6.1
[21:39] <EagleScreen> hbbk: why do u use jaunty-proposed?
[21:39] <EagleScreen> and jaunty-backports?
[21:39] <EagleScreen> you only should use it by real need
[21:40] <EagleScreen> packages un proposed and backports are usually broken
[21:40] <StateS> Hiya, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10alpha4 i386, I believe that there is a bug in the screen edges configuration, what happens is that the entire left hand side of the screen doesn't activate any kind of action whatsoever, but the edges on the right hand side work just fine, also the middle top edge doesn't work, but middle bottom edge does...
[21:40] <EagleScreen> try to use libc6 version in jaunty
[21:41] <StateS> is this a known bug?
[21:41] <hbbk> don't remember :( but I should had a good reason :)
[21:41] <StateS> arg
[21:41] <hbbk> how to get back ?
[21:41] <StateS> damnit... I really need to start reading the topics... my bad
[21:41] <EagleScreen> hbbk: some package managers allow you to go back to other package version
[21:42] <EagleScreen> hbbk: they are synaptic and aptitude
[21:42] <hbbk> I only use aptitude on CL
[21:42] <EagleScreen> hbbk: you can do it with aptitude
[21:43] <EagleScreen> but hbbk, break libc6 can be dangerous, a lot a system applications use it, it can break all your system, so good luck
[21:43] <onlooker> Just wondering, does anyone know if Skim is still being developed?
[21:43] <EagleScreen> hbbk: you shoud disable jaunty-proposed
[21:44] <hbbk> EagleScreen: ok I'll try that
[21:44] <EagleScreen> hbbk: all updates in jaunty-proposed will reach jaunty-updates when they are working good
[21:47] <MidnightDevil> heya
[21:47] <MidnightDevil> where are the wallpapers i download through the Appearence Settings - Get new wallpapers ?
[21:51] <hbbk> EagleScreen: everything seem to be ok now thanks
[21:52] <hbbk> downgraded to 2.9-4ubuntu6
[21:52] <EagleScreen> hbbk: the recommended sources are only jaunty-security, jaunty-updates and jaunty
[21:52] <EagleScreen> jaunty-backports and jaunty-proposed can give problems
[21:52] <hbbk> yes I removed proposed
[21:56] <MeowKItten> id like to setup a ftp site so i can have friends downlaod files from my machine as well as upload them,is this possibgle? it dosent need to be FTP if thers other option that wuold work.
[21:58] <Dragnslcr> MeowKItten- sure, you can install an ftpd
[22:03] <MeowKItten> whats the d stand for?  imhopeing for somehting relitivly simple
[22:03] <genii> "daemon"
[22:05] <genii> daemons are processes or programs that run in the background and do fairly particular things like serve web pages or files, etc
[22:07] <Quasar1048> I've been wondering how to do that as well
[22:08] <kubuntu_> i just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and i have no clue what to do beign a new linux user O.o
[22:08] <kubuntu_> being~
[22:08] <NekawA> what do u want to do
[22:08] <kubuntu_> Erm im not sure this version of linux is good for a pentium 3 ghs 1 gb ram Laptop
[22:08] <kubuntu_> its dragging
[22:09] <kubuntu_> 2 ghz sorry
[22:09] <NekawA> sure it should be fine..
[22:09] <kubuntu_> Yea its running fine i guess
[22:09] <NekawA> if u type 'ps ax' from command prompt u can see all the stuff that's running
[22:09] <kubuntu_> ok i will do that now
[22:10] <NekawA> i have a pC that's less specs then that and it's a virtual server w/ 2 virtual machines and it runs fine
[22:10] <kubuntu_> i just typed ps ax
[22:10] <NekawA> also if you don't need the 'graphical' version (IE - if the computer is just going to be a webserver or something) then u can remove the graphical interface that would save lots of memory
[22:10] <kubuntu_> nothing hpnd o.O
[22:10] <kubuntu_> how do i remove the graphical interface
[22:10] <NekawA> lol are u in the terminal window?
[22:11] <kubuntu_> LOl how bout me being a toal noob
[22:11] <kubuntu_> ill try to go to the terminal O.O somehow
[22:11] <NekawA> goto 'accessories' should be called terminal
[22:11] <NekawA> or u can press ALT-F2 and type 'gnome-terminal' (assuming u use gnome)
[22:12] <kubuntu_> Using KUbuntu 9,04
[22:12] <kubuntu_> and still nothing >.<
[22:12] <MeowKItten> kubuntu_: i wouldent remove the graphicla interface unless your well versed with CLI comands
[22:12] <kubuntu_> FOund the terminal
[22:13] <kubuntu_> BUt damn its lagging hard
[22:14] <MeowKItten> kubuntu,id suggest diasbleing desktop qwidgets and compiz if your coputer is performing slow. do you have any programs rubnning? did you set up swap space durihng install? how much ram do you have?
[22:14] <kubuntu_> i ahve 1 gb ram
[22:14] <MeowKItten> Dragnslcr: what program would you suggest for a ftp deamon?
[22:14] <NekawA> well once your in terminal u can type 'ps ax' to look at all the processes, then u can type 'kill #PID' where #PID is the number of the process that came up in ps ax , u can debug that way
[22:14]  * NekawA likes vsftpd
[22:14] <kubuntu_> not sure how much swap space was used i jsut selected it to evrything auto
[22:14] <NekawA> lots of people like pro_ftpd or glftpd is the scene preference
[22:15] <MeowKItten> is it CLI or gui?
[22:16] <MeowKItten> niether one is in the repos... ill search for it onine
[22:16] <Quasar1048> does ctrl+alt+F1 work in kubuntu?
[22:16] <Quasar1048> If so, do that and a tty console should pop up
[22:18] <NekawA> MeowKItten: they should be i use a different flavor of linux but apt-get install vsftpd worked for me.. they're CLI
[22:18] <NekawA> you'll have a hard time finding a GUI FTP client, if u want something GUI i'd recommend get Pro_ftpd, then u can use something like webmin to administer it in GUI
[22:19] <NekawA> errr, ftp server
[22:20] <jose> new to linux ...need help with terminal commands
[22:20] <MeowKItten> huh,why anrt there many gu FTPs?
[22:20] <MeowKItten> shoudlent be too hard to make
[22:21] <Dragnslcr> MeowKItten- I don't think I ever found one that I really liked, but vsftpd and proftpd are probably the two most popular
[22:25] <kubuntu_> Lol i di alt and that f1 thing
[22:25] <kubuntu_> and i was lost
[22:25] <kubuntu_> >.<
[22:25] <kubuntu_> ctrl+alt+f1
[22:28] <kubuntu_> is it possible that im having this sorta lag because i havnt installed the drivers
[22:28] <kubuntu_> or soemthing of that sort
[22:28] <kubuntu_> Directed towards Nekawa
[22:31] <skibur> hello
[22:31] <skibur> trying to connect my phone with internet via bluetooth to my laptop
[22:32] <Stunts> wat brand
[22:32] <Stunts> the phone i mean
[22:32] <skibur> 3G LG GR500
[22:33] <Stunts> o, nvrmnd, i am good at rigging the internet thur on a motorola but not on other brands
[22:33] <skibur> o ok
[22:34] <Stunts> anyone here know the command that change the refresh rate when loading the kernel for installing the os?
[22:35] <Stunts> wow its quiet in here without cor
[22:35] <wifa> hello
[22:35] <wifa> how are you??
[22:36] <wifa> i like know friend
[22:36] <wifa> s
[22:36] <Stunts> ?
[22:36] <Stunts> ok
[22:36] <Stunts> dont suppose u could answer my question?
[22:38] <kubuntu_> o.O
[22:39] <kubuntu_> Dramatic Silence in this HIzzy
[22:39] <Stunts> yea...
[22:39] <kubuntu_> LOl
[22:39] <Stunts> any idea wat command i use when loading the kernal from grub to change the refresh rate?
[22:40] <kubuntu_> Today is my first day with Linux x|
[22:40] <kubuntu_> totally wrong person to ask
[22:40] <Stunts> ive used it before but my laptop hates it
[22:40] <Stunts> it has weird refresh rate issue, makes the screen start flashing wildly
[22:40] <kubuntu_> I am trying to figure out why my cpu is @ 100 pct all the time
[22:40] <kubuntu_> its a clean install
[22:40] <kubuntu_> :S
[22:41] <Stunts> and its linux?
[22:41] <kubuntu_> Kubuntu 9.04
[22:41] <kubuntu_> with all the Eyecandy
[22:41] <Stunts> ok im not that great with linux yet, i could name that problem on windows to a virus, but on linux thats highly unlikely
[22:41] <kubuntu_> LOl
[22:41] <kubuntu_> i know that
[22:42] <Stunts> i had that virus and it pissed me off
[22:42] <kubuntu_> i just dont kno why it is @ 100 pct
[22:42] <kubuntu_> its making me lag
[22:42] <kubuntu_> wait now its fine
[22:42] <kubuntu_> o.O
[22:42] <kubuntu_> weird
[22:42] <FloodBotK2> kubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:42] <Stunts> i hate that
[22:42] <kubuntu_> dont use enter as punctuation
[22:42] <kubuntu_> i dont get it
[22:43] <kubuntu_> was that aPvt message or something
[22:43] <Stunts> when u type and hit enter every other line
[22:43] <Stunts> it gets pissed at u
[22:43] <kubuntu_> Oh lol
[22:43] <Mamarok> kubuntu_: you type one or two words, then type a new line, don't do that
[22:43] <Mamarok> Stunts: behave, please
[22:43] <Stunts> yea or it probly bans u after a while
[22:43] <kubuntu_> Oh im sorry i didnt realse that would be a problem
[22:43] <Stunts> wat did i do?
[22:43] <kubuntu_> is that a bot talking to us or a real person coz im scared :O
[22:44] <Mamarok> Stunts: watch your language, please, read what you wrote
[22:44] <Mamarok> I am a real person :)
[22:44] <Stunts> o sorry, i try not to heavily cuss on irc
[22:44] <Mamarok> guys, this is a support channel, just avoid thinking aloud and stick to the facts :)
[22:44] <kubuntu_> Mamrok : any idea how to get rid of this heavy GUi on kubuntu its making me lag
[22:45] <kubuntu_> the fact is i dont know why it is lagging at all
[22:45] <Mamarok> kubuntu_: sorry, I just joined, can't tell what version you are talking about and what GUI
[22:46] <kubuntu_> im talking bout 9.04 Kubuntu im new to linux so i dont have much clue its heavily lagging being a new install, its  apentium 2ghz processor with 1 gb ram with 2.3 gig swap space yet it still lags
[22:46] <Mamarok> kubuntu_: well, that shouldn't lag, maybe you are just missing some packages. Also you should tell me what is actually "lagging"
[22:47] <Mamarok> also, what exact version of KDE, the default would be 4.2.2 ?
[22:47] <Mamarok> also, what graphic card, and do you use the KWin desktop effects?
[22:47] <kubuntu_> can you tell me how do i find out! im new to this :( sorry
[22:48] <Mamarok> kubuntu_: just open any KDE application and check teh "About KDE dialog in the Help menu
[22:48] <Mamarok> the, sorry
[22:48] <Mamarok> kubuntu_: if you just installed, then it's KDE 4.2.2
[22:49] <kubuntu_> yes i just got it from the site
[22:49] <Mamarok> ok, and what exactly is lagging?
[22:49] <kubuntu_> i have previous windows tracks over my new window which slowly vanishes
[22:50] <Szadek_> kubuntu_ you should update to kde 4.3 ... 4.2.x it had some problems with performance , and , now im using 4.3 and it is rock solid and stable .
[22:50] <Mamarok> windows tracks? I am sorry, but I just don't understand waht you mean
[22:50] <kubuntu_> i jsut got a notification telling me i have 154 updates O.o
[22:50] <Mamarok> Szadek_: please, let me sort that out first
[22:51] <Mamarok> Szadek_: if he is new to Linux this needs some checking first
[22:51] <kubuntu_> let me update all the packages and i will get back to you if you are still here!
[22:51] <skibur> huh
[22:51] <Szadek_> sorry mamarok =) ...
[22:51] <Mamarok> ok
[22:51] <skibur> deb isn't installed?
[22:52] <Mamarok> skibur: I am sorry?
[22:52] <zax> how do i add my logitech webcam ? i cant find a way to do so. i am using ubuntu 9.04
[22:52] <Mamarok> zax: what do you want to use it for?
[22:52] <zax> zoneminder
[22:52] <skibur> trying to install blueman on kubuntu
[22:52] <Mamarok> zax: sorry, I don't even know what this is :)
[22:53] <Mamarok> skibur: what would that be?
[22:53] <zax> mabe i is istalled already? is ther away i can list the usb devices connected to the pc ?
[22:53] <zax> Mamarok: its  CCTV UTILITY
[22:53] <zax> sorry for caps
[22:53] <skibur> bluetooth manager
[22:53] <Mamarok> zax: right, there are some bluetooth problems as it seems, pleae check that:
[22:54] <Mamarok> !bluetooth | skibur
[22:54] <zax> how do i list succesfuly installed devices ?
[22:54] <Szadek_> skibur >>> http://pastebin.com/macdba5e
[22:55] <Mamarok> zax: hf should show you all mounted devices
[22:55] <Mamarok> in a konsole
[22:55] <zax> hf
[22:55] <zax> unknown command
[22:56] <Mamarok> zax: sorry, a type, it's df actually
[22:57] <Mamarok> df -h makes it more readable
[22:57] <zax> thanks
[22:57] <zax> it seems to only show storage devices
[22:58] <zax> iwant to see how to call my wecam
[22:58] <zax> like dev\video\
[22:58] <skibur> szadek, couldn't find Blueman
[22:58] <Mamarok> zax: oh, you want to check for a usb webcam, sorry, I mixed up stuff
[22:58] <zax> :)
[22:59] <zax> yeah , any idea ?
[22:59] <toski> hi...im new to linux and wonder if there is a irc channel in swedish?
[23:00] <rosco_y> I'm putting IDE drive and CDROM drive on same ribbon, which should be master, which should be slave?
[23:00] <Mamarok> zax: normally plugin it in should make it show up in the settings of any application that can handle a webcam
[23:01] <Mamarok> rosco_y: it doesn't really matter, but put the HD as master
[23:01] <rosco_y> Mamarok: ty, does having an additional sata drive change that equation?
[23:01] <Mamarok> rosco_y: everything you add after is set to slave
[23:02] <Mamarok> it really does matter only if you have two hard disks, as those are storage devices
[23:02] <rosco_y> Mamarok: does the physical location (middle/end points) make a difference?
[23:02] <Mamarok> no, not at all
[23:02] <Dragnslcr> Depends on the jumper settings on the drives
[23:03] <Mamarok> well, you don't really need that with SATA
[23:03] <rosco_y> Mamarok: thank you very much...I'll proceed with caution :)
[23:03] <rosco_y> Dragnslcr: I have my jumpers set to "auto" as much as I know how
[23:03] <Mamarok> !info blueman
[23:03] <Dragnslcr> Do you mean "cable select"?
[23:03] <Mamarok> skibur: because it is not in the official repositories
[23:03] <rosco_y> Dragnslcr: yes, thank you
[23:04] <rosco_y> Thank you peoples, with my fingers crossed I hope to be back online soon....
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> See if the cable has tabs on it that say "master" and "slave"
[23:04] <rosco_y> yes, my cable does, and it kind of worries me
[23:04] <Mamarok> skibur: if you use KDE 4, there is kdebluetooth
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> If the drives are set to cable select, I think the connector at the end of the cable is master and the connector in the middle of the cable is slave
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> I don't have an IDE cable handy to check
[23:05] <rosco_y> I have one of those round MSI cables, and the midpoint is labeled "Slave", which is unfortunate because that's where I stuck my HD--should I move my drives?
[23:06] <Dragnslcr> Or you can set the jumpers on the drives
[23:06] <rosco_y> put my HD on the end, and my CDROM in the middle labeled "slave"
[23:06] <rosco_y> if I set the jumpers to "Master" and "Slave", it will override the position on the cabel?
[23:06] <Dragnslcr> I would, but I'm not sure if it really matters. The BIOS might be smart enough to figure it out
[23:06] <Dragnslcr> It should, yeah
[23:07] <rosco_y> Thank you, it would be sweet if I could boot up without too much hassle
[23:07] <Dragnslcr> Yet another reason that SATA is so much better
[23:07] <skibur> mamarok, it doesn't pick up my phone an pair for internet
[23:07] <rosco_y> I'd love to be all sata, but then I'd love to have my own sys admin too
[23:07] <Szadek_> skibur : in that pastbin text , you have to execute 3 commands , i forgotten to say to you should add the repository wich is     deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/blueman/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:08] <Szadek_> man , that one sucked .... sorry for that
[23:08] <Dragnslcr> If it doesn't boot correctly, at least you'll know what to try first to fix it
[23:08] <rosco_y> bye peoples....see you later I hope :()
[23:08] <Dragnslcr> Good luck
[23:08] <rosco_y> Dragnslcr: ty
[23:08] <rosco_y> ty all
[23:08] <Stunts> any1 no wat command u use to change the refresh rate from grub?
[23:10] <Szadek_> skibur : http://pastebin.com/m53e1a53d : do that and you'll get blueman working =D easily
[23:12] <Szadek_> and yes , i find blueman the nicest bluetooth application to manage my nokia 5800 ... kbluetooth didnt went well for that .. dunno why .
[23:12] <Szadek_> imagining you are using it for the mobile phone , blueman should work easily .
[23:14] <Aison> hello
[23:14] <Aison> my kde is allways crashing with nvidia drivers on an ION Atom machine :(((
[23:14] <Aison> no idea why
[23:15] <Szadek> are you using desktop effects ( kwin ) ?
[23:15] <Aison> Szadek, yes, but I can't disable it, because everytime I try to start system settings, it hangs
[23:16] <Aison> and there are newer drivers from nvidia, but ubuntu have got just the old ones
[23:16] <Aison> 185 are newer
[23:16] <Aison> maybe there's some overlay for apt with newer drivers
[23:17] <Szadek> aison you should this , is the easyest way to disable the effects : righ click open menu with mouse , on the top of a window and select configure window behavior , and then , uncheck desktop effects and see if it helps
[23:17] <Aison> Szadek, I can't open ANY window ;)
[23:18] <Szadek> hit alt+f2 , then click on the second icon of krunner , there you have a window
[23:19] <Szadek> but , if you are using kde 4.2 , try this : alt+f2 and then kquitapp plasma and then run again krunner and writh plasma , there should be an incon appearing so you can start it again
[23:19] <Szadek> but , if you are using kde 4.3 , instead of kquitapp plasma ... it is kquitapp plasma-desktop instead ... to run again plasma , on krunner : plasma-desktop
[23:19] <Aison> wee, worked ;)
[23:20] <Aison> but on nvidia.com I read that newer drivers no longer crash
[23:20] <Aison> so maybe I should try those
[23:20] <Szadek> yes
[23:20] <Szadek> yes you should =D
[23:21] <skibur> Szadek,  thanks for the help
[23:22] <Szadek> skibur : you're welcome
[23:22] <skibur> now to see if it picks up my phone
[23:22] <marco_> does kde 4.3.1 has performance improvment compared to 4.3.0?
[23:30] <Aison> mark__, I think not
[23:30] <Aison> at least it's not slower ;)
[23:36] <Stunts> anyone know the grub command to change the diplay refresh rate before kernel loads?
[23:38] <Stunts> any1?
[23:50] <caseyd> anyone have  time to teach a linux newby how to install the .tgz file from this site, http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Download
[23:53] <EagleScreen> lets see caseyd
[23:54] <EagleScreen> dowload the file
[23:54] <caseyd> got it
[23:54] <EagleScreen> go to a terminal
[23:54] <EagleScreen> or extract it with Ark
[23:54] <caseyd> when i double click the file it prompts me to choose a program
[23:55] <EagleScreen> double click on kuubntu?
[23:55] <EagleScreen> what is your kubuntu version?
[23:56] <caseyd> oh no, when i double click on the .tgz file, but only when in the firefox downloads window
[23:56] <caseyd> i have the newest kubuntu, downloaded it yesterday
[23:57] <jtheuer> did anyone had this error: ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1522:(bluetooth_parse_config) Unknown field slave ?
[23:57] <caseyd> anyway i have terminal up, and i've also extracted it
[23:58]  * the_madman waves
[23:58] <the_madman> Hello everyone.
[23:58] <EagleScreen> okay
[23:58] <EagleScreen> now cd in
[23:58] <the_madman> So I wondered if the 2.6.30 kernel is available for (k)ubuntu yet, since in Gentoo it had better support for suspending then previous versions...
[23:59] <EagleScreen> yes the_madman you have it in ubuntu-kernel ppa
[23:59] <caseyd> alright, i'm cd'd in the the directory i extracted, is there a preferred place I should extract it to