| NCommander | tlee2, you have to use the mkimage command | 01:22 |
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| NCommander | tlee2, we made that change to make other things in our backend work a bit more sanely :-) | 01:22 |
| erikcorry | Anyone awake? | 10:20 |
| erikcorry | I tried rootstock. | 10:21 |
| erikcorry | It did a whooole lot of work. | 10:21 |
| erikcorry | I'm wondering if it made anything. | 10:21 |
| erikcorry | No new files in current directory. | 10:21 |
| erikcorry | Where should I be looking? | 10:21 |
| ogra | there should be files in the current dir | 10:27 |
| ogra | what was the commandline you used, which release are you on ? | 10:27 |
| erikcorry | I'm running on a Hardy-based x86 host. | 10:29 |
| erikcorry | So probably I'm hosed? | 10:29 |
| erikcorry | sudo ./rootstock -f name.example.com -l erikcorry -p foobar | 10:30 |
| ogra | hardy is to old | 10:31 |
| erikcorry | damn | 10:31 |
| ogra | you can bootstrap a jaunty chroot (using the jaunty debootstrap) and run rootstock inside there | 10:32 |
| erikcorry | OK | 10:32 |
| ogra | (well, hardy isnt necessarily to old, but i never tested it on hardy and didnt develop it on hardy so i wouldnt know what issues can come up there) | 10:32 |
| erikcorry | When it says I: Switching to Virtual Machine for second stage processing | 10:33 |
| erikcorry | I can't see anything. | 10:34 |
| erikcorry | Would I be able to see the VM running if I had my X display set up right? | 10:34 |
| ogra | nope, it doesnt use graphical output | 10:35 |
| ogra | it spawns the VM with a serial terminal and the script interacts through that with the VM | 10:35 |
| ogra | might be that hardy's qemu doesnt work for armel | 10:36 |
| ogra | we didnt support that arch back then, so i dont know if anyone paid attention to arm stuff | 10:37 |
| ogra | though if you say it switches to the VM, did you wait long enough ... it can take quite a while until it moves on | 10:38 |
| erikcorry | It's running at 100% CPU so it's doing something. | 10:38 |
| erikcorry | I have qemu 0.91 | 10:38 |
| ogra | how long did you wait yet | 10:39 |
| erikcorry | I waited a long time and it continued. | 10:39 |
| ogra | ah | 10:39 |
| ogra | yeah, the qemu part is very slow | 10:39 |
| erikcorry | Now it's scrolled off the top of the scrollback buffer so I can't see what happened | 10:39 |
| ogra | i hope to fix that for karmic | 10:39 |
| erikcorry | I'm running it again. | 10:39 |
| erikcorry | I'll report what happens. | 10:39 |
| erikcorry | Is it just because the qemu ARM emulator is slow? | 10:39 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:40 |
| erikcorry | I: Unpacking required packages... | 10:41 |
| ogra | looks good :) | 10:41 |
| ogra | just let it run... make some coffee ... drink it ... take a walk and then look again :) | 10:42 |
| lool | ogra: Could you blacklist older dists in rootstock | 11:12 |
| lool | ogra: Also could you stop installing ubuntu-minimal by default? It's pulled by debootstrap in all cases and breaks on Debian | 11:12 |
| ogra | rootstock only builds for jaunty and karmic and is only packaged for karmic | 11:12 |
| lool | Oh so it refuses a hardy target already ok | 11:13 |
| ogra | i cant stop people from pulling from bzr | 11:13 |
| lool | We could runtime check for the qemu version if that's the issue | 11:13 |
| ogra | -minimal was explicitly added as a no-op ... i didnt take debian into account back when i created rootstock | 11:14 |
| ogra | there is apparently no issue, its just the general slowness | 11:14 |
| lool | Yeah could you make it "" instead of ubuntu-minimal? | 11:14 |
| ogra | indeed | 11:14 |
| lool | Cause it's always pulled | 11:14 |
| ogra | though it will still break on debian without additional changes i guess | 11:15 |
| erikcorry | dpkg: failed to write status record about `libxslt1.1' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device | 11:15 |
| ogra | $DIST defaulting to karmic for example (though you can override it) | 11:15 |
| ogra | erikcorry, you picked the imagesize wrong | 11:16 |
| ogra | take a bigger value | 11:16 |
| erikcorry | Yeah, I just let it use the default. | 11:16 |
| erikcorry | 1G | 11:16 |
| erikcorry | 4G is big enough? | 11:16 |
| ogra | future versions will properly compute the size they need based on the package selection | 11:16 |
| ogra | what do you install ? a desktop will need 4G, yes | 11:17 |
| erikcorry | Thx | 11:17 |
| erikcorry | starting it again | 11:17 |
| erikcorry | I think I probably ran out of host disk space first time I ran it. | 11:17 |
| erikcorry | Target disk space second time. | 11:17 |
| ogra | oh, yeah, you will need some space for that on your host :) | 11:18 |
| ogra | at least the amount of the imagesize | 11:18 |
| ogra | plus whatever comes out of the script at the end as tarball | 11:18 |
| ogra | 1.5 times imagesize should be a good measure | 11:19 |
| ogra | lool, that will require more than "" | 11:27 |
| ogra | ogra@osiris:~/Devel/branches/rootstock-0.1.1$ LANG=C sudo apt-get -y install "" | 11:28 |
| ogra | Reading package lists... Done | 11:28 |
| ogra | Building dependency tree | 11:28 |
| ogra | Reading state information... Done | 11:28 |
| ogra | E: Couldn't find package | 11:28 |
| lool | You need me to help fix that? :) | 11:28 |
| ogra | nah | 11:28 |
| ogra | fixed and pushed | 11:35 |
| lool | thanks | 11:36 |
| erikcorry | dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: | 11:55 |
| erikcorry | It looks like it might be harmless | 11:55 |
| erikcorry | OK that didn't work. | 12:17 |
| erikcorry | Looks like my old Qemu isn't up to the task, as you predicted. | 12:17 |
| erikcorry | Any tips on making a jaunty chroot area with debootstrap? | 12:25 |
| erikcorry | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot | 12:28 |
| erikcorry | " the debootstrap that is bundled with Hardy cannot prepare a Jaunty chroot." | 12:28 |
| erikcorry | Damn | 12:28 |
| ogra | its just scripts ... you can pull the jaunty one and just dpkg -i it | 12:29 |
| erikcorry | It seemed to build something anyway. | 12:31 |
| erikcorry | But when I chroot into it apt-get doesn't work. | 12:31 |
| erikcorry | # apt-get install svn | 12:32 |
| erikcorry | Reading package lists... Done | 12:32 |
| erikcorry | Building dependency tree... Done | 12:32 |
| erikcorry | E: Couldn't find package svn | 12:32 |
| erikcorry | doh! | 12:32 |
| erikcorry | It's called subversion | 12:32 |
| erikcorry | Standard debootstrap from jaunty doesn't seem to have a script for karmic. | 13:44 |
| ogra | no, for jaunty | 13:44 |
| erikcorry | But if I want the latest greatest ARM stuff I have to use karmic, right? | 13:44 |
| ogra | if you want the unstable arm stuff you want karmic :) | 13:44 |
| erikcorry | For some reason the debootstrap I had on hardy already had that script. | 13:44 |
| ogra | indeed that also has the latest and greatest | 13:44 |
| erikcorry | Is there any other kind of arm stuff? | 13:45 |
| erikcorry | :-) | 13:45 |
| ogra | heh | 13:45 |
| erikcorry | What's the best way to upgrade one single package? Just download it as a deb or should I do something to my sources.list file? | 13:46 |
| erikcorry | Sorry about all these newbie questions. | 13:47 |
| ogra | what package ? | 13:49 |
| erikcorry | It's OK. | 13:50 |
| erikcorry | I found a newer debootstrap than the one that came with jaunty and installed it. | 13:50 |
| erikcorry | Now I have the karmic script. | 13:50 |
| ogra | ok | 13:51 |
| erikcorry | Enhancement request for rootstock: If the /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/karmic file is not there then give a good error message. | 13:52 |
| ogra | it does if the debootstrap version isnt right | 13:52 |
| erikcorry | Debootstrap was newer than 1.0.10 | 13:52 |
| erikcorry | Which I think is what it tests for. | 13:53 |
| ogra | it looks for something that can build jaunty | 13:53 |
| ogra | in karmic it is packaged and the package depends hard on the right version | 13:53 |
| erikcorry | But the -d option defaults to karmic | 13:53 |
| erikcorry | The standard debootstrap in jaunty is 1.0.12 which can't build karmic. | 13:54 |
| erikcorry | The 1.0.13~jaunty1_all version can | 13:54 |
| ogra | right, but i dont want to force jaunty users to update debootstrap, they should use -d jaunty | 13:56 |
| erikcorry | Whatever -d option they use that should be the one that you check for in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ | 13:56 |
| erikcorry | At the moment it bombs out with a cryptic error message and leaves the image mounted. | 13:57 |
| ogra | thats a bug indeed | 13:57 |
| ogra | it should clean up after itself | 13:57 |
| ogra | i will make $DIST default to the host distro and make it throw an error if its pre jaunty | 13:58 |
| erikcorry | But you do expect that one can build a karmic ARM system on a Jaunty host? | 14:01 |
| lool | If you install debootstrap probably | 14:01 |
| ogra | sure | 14:02 |
| ogra | and thats why the script has a -d option | 14:02 |
| ogra | the default for that options is picked wrong though | 14:02 |
| erikcorry | I sent you a patch. | 14:07 |
| ogra | oh, thanks ! | 14:08 |
| erikcorry | It's not tested :-/ | 14:08 |
| erikcorry | It's just to illustrate what I mean. | 14:08 |
| * ogra waits for it | 14:08 | |
| ogra | essentially it should just be: DIST=$(lsb_release -cs) | 14:08 |
| ogra | and probably an error message telling you you cant build for future distros without future debootstrap | 14:09 |
| ogra | ah, there it is | 14:09 |
| ogra | perfect, that and the lsb_release change together will make it work right | 14:10 |
| * ogra adds that to bzr | 14:10 | |
| ogra | erikcorry, mind if i move that check a bit earlier so it fails before it actually uses diskspace ? | 14:13 |
| ogra | committed and pushed | 14:15 |
| erikcorry | Sounds fine. | 14:18 |
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| NCommander | lool, ogra, would you like to look over my flash-kernel changes? (I'm about to do an install with them in place to make sure they work as excepted, but I'd like any input: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263860/) | 16:13 |
| zul | hi has anyone seen bug #416313 | 16:23 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 416313 in samba "On samba of ubuntu-arm, large file copy fails " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416313 | 16:23 |
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| lool | ogra: You kicked some live builds? | 16:55 |
| lool | I mean livefs | 16:55 |
| tlee | ogra: How do I use hte linux-mvl-dove from uboot? | 17:24 |
| ogra | NCommander, ^^^ | 17:24 |
| NCommander | tlee, is your root filesystem ext2 or ext3? | 17:24 |
| NCommander | If the answer is no, then you can't load it directly :-/ | 17:24 |
| tlee | ext3 on sata | 17:24 |
| NCommander | Well | 17:24 |
| NCommander | That will work :-) | 17:25 |
| NCommander | tlee, are you using a separate boot partition or no? | 17:25 |
| tlee | yes. | 17:25 |
| tlee | I can configure it anyway you like. | 17:25 |
| * NCommander thinks he just found a test victim :-) | 17:25 | |
| tlee | Is there a wiki howto? | 17:25 |
| NCommander | tlee, its not fully up to dat eyet, I'm currently working on extending u-boot's boot scripts to automatically scan usb and SATA HDDs for the ubuntu boot.scr file :-) | 17:26 |
| tlee | tlee thinks he just been victimized. :-) | 17:26 |
| tlee | I play with boot.scr before. | 17:26 |
| NCommander | tlee, we do have working live images, but the installer kinda fubar'ed | 17:26 |
| NCommander | tlee, http://people.canonical.com/~mcasadevall/karmic-desktop-armel+dove.img | 17:26 |
| NCommander | tlee, download that, stick it on a pendrive, and then you can start the live environment :-) | 17:27 |
| tlee | Which uboot do I need to support this scan function? | 17:27 |
| NCommander | tlee, the one I haven't written yet ;-) | 17:27 |
| tlee | Would the default Y0 uboot work? (Whatever default means...) | 17:28 |
| NCommander | tlee, (I'm working off the Marvelll 4.2.3 source drop with a few patches to turn the Hush shell on) | 17:28 |
| NCommander | tlee, you need Y0 4.2.3 | 17:28 |
| NCommander | (check the version string) | 17:28 |
| tlee | Will check which one I have now. | 17:28 |
| NCommander | but thats just to start the live image, I'll have a new u-boot binary that sits in NAND flash (vs. spi-nor) which handles the scanning | 17:28 |
| tlee | NCommander, my uboot is 4.1.7. Do I get the updated uboot from u? | 17:40 |
| tlee | or MVL | 17:40 |
| NCommander | tlee, I'm not sure if I can post u-boot binaries or not | 17:40 |
| NCommander | but you'll need a newer one :-/ | 17:40 |
| tlee | Will email u.... | 17:41 |
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| armin76 | NCommander: what is a dove board? :) | 19:02 |
| ogra | armin76, upcoming hardware | 19:03 |
| armin76 | rabeeh: i want one :P | 19:04 |
| suihkulokki | without knowing what it is? :) | 19:04 |
| rjune_ | suihkulokki: it's new, therefore it must be cool | 19:05 |
| ogra | suihkulokki, be sure you want one too once they are on the market | 19:05 |
| NCommander | armin76, wow, your a real ARM diehard :-) | 19:05 |
| NCommander | armin76, :-) | 19:05 |
| armin76 | NCommander: i always like to try new stuff :) | 19:05 |
| NCommander | armin76, I should send you my MIPS laptop | 19:10 |
| armin76 | NCommander: got bored of it? :) | 19:17 |
| NCommander | armin76, it doesn't work too well with lenny | 19:17 |
| NCommander | and the Xorg I need is still stuck in sid I think | 19:17 |
| NCommander | and sid is extra broken recently | 19:17 |
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