[04:20] <mac_v> dashua: you are using just the wallpaper or the new gdm has landed?
[05:09] <lcbo> hi!
[05:14] <lcbo> :(
[05:14] <lcbo> bye!
[10:07] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[12:36] <dashua> mac_v, Both :) but it has not yet landed.
[12:39] <SiDi> dashua: heya
[12:40] <SiDi> did you manage to get brown bubbles in the end ? :P
[12:40] <dashua> No =/
[12:41]  * dashua waits for a sexxy script from SiDi
[12:42] <SiDi> damn
[12:42] <SiDi> i dont know how to use gconf in command line
[12:42] <dashua> The fonts actually look better too in the latest iteration
[12:42] <dashua> Bigger or something
[12:42] <SiDi> in the latest notifyosd ?
[12:42] <SiDi> yeh, they're bigger
[12:42] <dashua> Yeah
[12:42] <SiDi> Do you mind building my branch with --with-xfconf ? :D
[12:42] <SiDi> i dont know how to use gconf
[12:43] <dashua> Just add that flag in configure?
[12:44] <dashua> Bah libxconf needed
[12:45] <dashua> One sec
[12:46] <mac_v> !gconftool
[12:47] <mac_v> what is the value? an integer or ?
[12:47] <SiDi> you're the integer :P
[12:47] <SiDi> some floats & doubles
[12:47] <mac_v> $gconftool -s --type int
[12:48] <dashua> SiDi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/263730/
[12:48] <SiDi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263731/
[12:48] <mac_v> $gconftool -s --type bool /your/gconf/file , $gconftool -s --type int /your/gconf/file
[12:48] <SiDi> dashua: make clean && make
[12:49] <SiDi> its because a part of notify-osd is already built and make doesnt rebuild it, but that part contains links to gconf functions, so gcc gets lost
[12:49] <SiDi> mac_v: where do i put the value ?
[12:49] <mac_v> dashua: the color changes have not yet landed for gnome , SiDi is upstream ;p
[12:50] <dashua> SiDi, Ok built and installed
[12:50] <mac_v> SiDi: the value is in the end
[12:51] <SiDi> check that pastebin above, its a sweet script
[12:52] <mac_v> SiDi: is xfconf-query ? just a query or does it change the values?
[12:53] <SiDi> it changes the value when you use --set
[12:55] <mac_v> kwwii: hi... did you receive my mail ?
[13:00] <SiDi> and then he'll mail kwwii to know if he received his irc ping !
[13:00]  * SiDi hides
[13:00]  * mac_v forgot to set the return receipt!
[13:01] <mac_v> funny how SiDi does the same things and never finds them funny when he does it ;p
[13:02] <SiDi> I doesnt do that, does it ? :P
[13:02] <SiDi> And of course, things are never funny when theyre about me :P
[13:02] <mac_v> SiDi: actually i got the idea , from the last time you pinged kwwii similarly for icons ;p
[13:03] <SiDi> :p
[13:08] <mac_v> dashua: the menu icons in hanso are from human theme?
[13:08] <mac_v> or vice versa
[13:34] <kwwii> mac_v: yes, got it, thanks
[13:35] <mac_v> \o/ np... thanks :)
[16:40] <mrdoob> afternoon/evening
[17:02] <mrdoob> ...
[17:02] <mrdoob> bye
[17:05] <Cimi> kwwii_, GtkEntry::honors-transparent-bg-hint = 1
[17:10] <SiDi> mac_v: i usually wait about 300 hours before doing hard reboots, and i have 1 udev :D
[17:16] <mac_v> SiDi: when running alpha , i wonder how you can be only for 300 hrs ;p
[17:16] <mac_v> s/only/online
[17:16] <SiDi> i run Xubuntu Jaunty as a main system ;P
[17:33] <kwwii_> Cimi: huh?
[17:34] <Cimi> kwwii, you should add that to the human theme to remove white boxes around the address bar and google search box in firefox's toolbar
[17:34] <Cimi> as well as removing the boxes inside webpages (long requested feature)
[17:35] <kwwii> Cimi: sweet, thanks :)
[17:35] <raozuzu> yes, sweet :)
[17:37] <Cimi> and you should move the human metacity directly to the Trash, but that's a different issue :)
[17:37] <kwwii> lol. eventually we will get through everything
[17:39] <raozuzu> ahah xD
[17:48] <SiDi> kwwii: hows the carbon theme going on ?
[17:52] <mac_v> oooh carbon , /me likes black
[17:55] <dashua> Cimi, common-gtkrc was not followed then =/
[17:59] <dashua> Bah, pulseaudio is banging me up.
[18:09] <Cimi> dashua, so I guess Human should be moved to the Trash too :-) I should make a post on planet gnome about it someday ;)
[18:10] <dashua> Hehe
[18:11] <dashua> Cimi, Anything planned for murrine?
[18:11] <Cimi> absolutely not
[18:12] <Cimi> and if I will have time, I guess I will get a job or I will do something for which I will be payed
[18:12] <mac_v> Cimi: hi... is there any way to use a murrine button style with clearlooks prelight?
[18:12] <dashua> Ah, alright.
[18:13] <Cimi> mac_v, No, cause I have found the clearlooks prelight faulty in some situations
[18:13] <Cimi> with color combos
[18:13] <Cimi> (mainly with datk themes)
[18:13] <Cimi> *dark
[18:13] <mac_v> yeah
[18:13] <Cimi> I should change the clearlooks focus too
[18:14] <Cimi> but, as long as gnome is shipped only with one colorscheme is not to important
[18:14] <mac_v> Cimi: any way of moving the murrine focus to fit the buttons rather than inside the button?
[18:15] <Cimi> I'm not sure
[18:15] <Cimi> I guess I have done workarounds to make it impossible :)
[18:15] <Cimi> I don't want the user to change it
[18:16] <mac_v> the focus , seems weird when it is inside the button , the padding is a bit too much
[18:17] <mac_v> Cimi: also , can a different color be assigned to the focus, other than selected_bg_color ?
[18:18] <Cimi> no, it's not weird, it is just different from what we are used to (osx)
[18:19] <Cimi> for the second question... yes, use focus_color = ...
[18:19] <Cimi> in murrine section of your gtkrc
[18:19] <mac_v> ah
[18:20] <Cimi> you can use both symbolic colors and hex
[18:20] <mac_v> Cimi: but no way of adjusting the padding ? i like the new buttons but the focus is the only thing thats seems off :(
[18:20] <mac_v> focus-padding        = 0 ?
[18:20] <Cimi> maybe
[18:20] <Cimi> or
[18:21] <Cimi> focus-line-width (width of the focus border)
[18:22] <Cimi> and maybe interior-focus (not sure about it)
[18:22] <mac_v> Cimi: is there any list of all available variables, i could refer to?
[18:23] <Cimi> those are gtk+ standard style properties
[18:23] <mac_v> oh , i was wondering about murrine... its hard to understand the new variations without testing them ;)
[18:24] <Cimi> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--s-focus-padding
[18:24] <Cimi> unfortunately focus-padding accepts non-negative values
[18:24] <Cimi> so I'm not sure you could use that property
[18:25] <mac_v> :(
[18:25] <Cimi> maybe interior focus = FALSE
[18:25] <Cimi> or 0
[18:28] <mac_v> a , interior focus worked \o/
[18:29] <Cimi>         GtkButton::interior-focus = 0
[18:29] <Cimi>         GtkButton::focus-padding = 0
[18:29] <Cimi>         GtkButton::focus-line-width = 0
[18:29] <Cimi> that thing could work, not in a wonderful way, but worked
[18:31] <mac_v> yeah , removing the line-width seems weird ,  need to assign the right color to make it prominent
[18:31] <Cimi> try as I did
[18:32] <mac_v> oh , thats better :)
[18:33] <mac_v> Cimi: is there a way to use 2 engines for one widget? like , use the murrine engine for the buttons but can the button focus alone use a pixmap?
[18:33] <Cimi> mmm
[18:33] <Cimi> *maybe*
[18:33] <Cimi> i am not sure
[18:35] <mac_v> Cimi: i tried this>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/263928/
[18:35] <mac_v> but everytime the second engine get selected as the engine to be used
[18:41] <Cimi> I should also blog about how to change the radius in metacity's rounded corners
[18:42] <Cimi> for example 2px instead 5
[18:42] <mac_v> yeah , the borders end up pixelated
[18:42] <Cimi> I guess no one knows it is possible :)
[18:43] <mac_v> Cimi: BTW, the new murrine changes are awesome \o/ , thanks for the help  :)
[18:50] <Cimi> thanks
[19:00] <mac_v> 	GtkButton      ::focus-color	      = "#CED904"
[19:01] <mac_v> hmmm.. thats doesnt seems to work
[19:09] <Cimi> mac_v, something like that works:
[19:09] <Cimi> engine "murrine" { focus_color = #CED904 }
[19:10] <Cimi> (maybe inside " ")
[19:10] <mac_v> oh...oh there
[21:47] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[23:27] <Viper550> hey