[00:20] <bdmurray> can somebody test installing http://people.canonical.com/~brian/tmp/firefox-lp-improvements_0.7-0ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb for me?
[00:20] <bdmurray> It doesn't show up in my firefox add on's anymore...
[00:22] <hggdh> doin git
[00:25] <hggdh> bdmurray, it shows in the add-ons, but I cannot select "preferences"
[00:25] <hggdh> will try uninstalling & reinstalling
[00:28] <hggdh> no, cannot enable it
[00:29] <bdmurray> great
[00:29] <hggdh> in fact, every time I restart ffox and go to add-ons, I get a message stating I must restart ffox for the changes to take effect
[00:29] <hggdh> but I did not change anything...
[00:34] <hggdh> that's interesting -- I uninstalled it, and it still shows up in the add-ons
[00:41] <bdmurray> hggdh: okay, I'm fairly certain I've discovered a work around
[00:42] <bdmurray> hggdh: I've put a new version at the same url if you want to test it
[00:42] <hggdh> what is it?
[00:42] <bdmurray> I think its something with mozilla-devscripts.  I built it on jaunty fine.
[00:43] <bdmurray> well, what I mean is they both built fine but only the jaunty version is working
[00:43] <hggdh> bdmurray, it is the same version?
[00:43] <bdmurray> yes, the package version of firefox-lp-improvements is the same
[00:44] <hggdh> k
[00:45] <jjardon> hello, Could someone take a look at this strange bug (maybe related to gtkspell, I'm not very sure): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aspell/+bug/379971
[00:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379971 in aspell "Turkish is always listed in GTK apps even when not installed" [Low,Triaged]
[00:45] <jjardon> Some people in #gtk channel told me that is not Ubuntu specific (he are using gentoo)
[00:46] <hggdh> bdmurray, I did install it, but it does not appear in the add-ons
[00:46] <bdmurray> are you sure? it works for me
[00:48] <hggdh> not here. But I think something else is broken on my FFox, so I am going to save the bookmarks & saved passwords, and create a new profile
[01:00] <hggdh> nope, did not work. I will revert to firefox 3.0
[01:01] <bdmurray> hmm
[01:02] <bdmurray> hggdh: what's the md5sum of the package you installed?
[01:02] <hggdh> will check
[01:02] <hggdh> d98507d6a5af10734ec4018fef2b4b44
[01:03] <bdmurray> I think that's the old one
[01:03] <bdmurray> 0459d62426b64874e3a81c8d36b82681
[01:03] <bdmurray> sorry about that!
[01:06] <hggdh> got it now
[01:06] <hggdh> all installed
[01:06] <hggdh> and shown
[01:07] <bdmurray> good, because I already uploaded it! ;-)
[01:07]  * micahg will test now
[01:08] <hggdh> yes, I just downloaded it -- expected you to be done by then ;-)
[01:08] <micahg> hmm
[01:08] <micahg> not there yet
[01:08] <bdmurray> oh, I meant uploaded to the ppa
[01:08] <micahg> hmm
[01:08] <micahg> 7 minutes ago
[01:08] <hggdh> now I am confused
[01:09] <micahg> hmmm
[01:09] <micahg> this is what gets me sometimes
[01:09] <micahg> there's a lag
[01:10] <bdmurray> hggdh: about?
[01:13] <hggdh> so it seems I *did* use the correct .deb, but why did it not work on first run?
[01:14] <bdmurray> the extension is still a bit magic to me sometimes
[01:16] <hggdh> :-)
[01:16] <hggdh> micahg, did you get it running?
[01:17] <micahg> waiting for packages to update
[01:22] <hggdh> ok
[01:31] <micahg> still won't update
[01:31] <hggdh> heh
[01:32] <hggdh> I hope you get it -- you will be able to search on bug mail ;-)
[01:34] <micahg> maybe after dinner
[01:54] <micahg> hggdh: can you see the package in teh repo?
[01:55] <micahg> apt-cache policy firefox-lp-improvements?
[01:55] <hggdh> in the ppa?
[01:55] <micahg> yeah
[01:55] <hggdh> hold on, have to update
[02:00] <hggdh> micahg, yes, I see it there
[02:00] <micahg> hmm
[02:01] <micahg> something must be wrong with my system
[02:19] <micahg> hggdh: any idea why I wouldn't be able to pull down the file?
[02:52] <hggdh> micahg, no. What exactly happens?
[02:52] <micahg> bug 422936
[02:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 422936 in soyuz "When a package is updated in a PPA the Packages.bz2 file isn't updated" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422936
[02:54] <hggdh> and there is already a comment there for you...
[02:54] <hggdh> it does take a while for all package files to be rebuilt, might be that
[02:57]  * micahg responded
[02:57] <micahg> it's weird
[02:57] <micahg> sometimes it's right away
[02:57] <micahg> sometimes it's 12+ hours
[03:02] <hggdh> the weird is that I see it on synaptic
[05:42] <dholbach> good morning
[05:56] <micahg> hi hggdh
[05:56] <micahg> that's a nice feature
[06:42] <mac_v> micahg: hi.. how to ban a user from lp?
[06:43] <mac_v> this user > https://bugs.launchpad.net/~pyrates18 , has been going around ranting in all the copy/paste reportS :(
[06:44] <mac_v> really irritating spams!
[06:45] <micahg> mac_v: what rants?
[06:45] <micahg> i don't see the user trolling
[06:45] <micahg> user is stating opinions
[06:45] <mac_v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334
[06:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 11334 in ubuntu "MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[06:45]  * micahg is looking at the bug
[06:46] <micahg> mac_v: can you point out a single line that's inappropriate
[06:47] <mac_v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/87 , "If it's not gonna be fixed to that specification, then I won't even think of using it." , this is constantly used in almost all his comments
[06:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 11334 in ubuntu "MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[06:48] <micahg> mac_v: what's wrong with user stating that
[06:48] <mac_v> he has been warned several times! by several users , he just wont Shut up!
[06:48] <micahg> mac_v: remember the multisearch stuff?
[06:48] <mac_v> micahg: if its stated once/twice , fine , but in every thread!
[06:48] <micahg> i don't see it in every thread
[06:48] <micahg> they were all combines
[06:49] <micahg> *combined
[06:49] <mac_v> if you see in the dupes, he comments in the dupes too , even after they have been duped :(
[06:49] <micahg> commented on 3 bugs total
[06:49] <micahg> the other clipboard one was duped
[06:50] <micahg> and the dupe text does say to add any missing points to the master bug
[06:50] <mac_v> hehe.... i just hate his nonsense ;p
[06:50] <micahg> yep
[06:50] <micahg> well, the rule is, don't feed the trolls
[06:50] <mac_v> :(
[06:50] <mac_v> damn it i just fed him!
[06:50] <micahg> but what that user wrote wasn't as bad as some of the other stuff
[06:50] <micahg> that we've had recently
[06:51] <micahg> user wasn't attacking anyone either which is what usually happens
[06:51] <mac_v> multisearch ? ;)
[06:51] <micahg> just stating intentions matter-of-factly
[06:53] <mac_v> ah! he has been in all the papercut bugs , he can from there! it was actually my mistake i think of duping a papercut to this main bug :(
[06:53] <micahg> mac_v: also, user gave good feedback on possible ways of thinking of the bug: https://edge.launchpad.net/~pyrates18
[06:53] <micahg> oops
[06:53] <micahg> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/83
[06:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 11334 in ubuntu "MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[06:55] <mac_v> yeah that was fine , but , several is more empty threats!
[06:55] <micahg> what threats
[06:55] <mac_v> i hated that line especially , ^
[06:55] <micahg> that the user won't use it
[06:55] <micahg> that's not a threat
[06:55] <mac_v> ;p
[06:55] <micahg> that would be nice :)
[06:55] <micahg> then they won't come back and complain
[06:55] <mac_v> hehe , yeah  , thats what i said too ;)
[06:56] <micahg> but seriously, you can't post stuff like that last post
[06:56] <mac_v> i got too pissed off! :(
[06:56] <micahg> you have to learn to take a lot to be part of bugsquad and bug control
[06:57] <mac_v> i tried to be polite :( >https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/76
[06:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 11334 in ubuntu "MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[06:57] <mac_v> comment #76
[06:58] <mac_v> tai chee ;)
[06:58] <micahg> mac_v: you see comments like this all the time in bug trackers
[06:58] <micahg> especially for long standing issues
[06:59] <mac_v> yeah  , i notice that , but havent seen users dont post so constantly , i guess i have to get used to it :)
[06:59] <micahg> yes
[07:02] <micahg> there, I jsut diffused that
[07:02] <micahg> it's easy to get heated doing this
[07:02] <micahg> think: mind like water
[07:03] <mac_v>  micahg you gave me my own CoC! :(
[07:04] <micahg> nope
[07:04] <micahg> did you read it?
[07:04] <micahg> well
[07:04] <micahg> yeah
[07:04] <micahg> but not the exact same text :)
[07:04] <mac_v> ;p
[07:04] <micahg> a little humor twist which will hopefully diffuse it
[07:05] <mac_v> if it stops him from reposting i'll be happy \o/
[07:05] <micahg> the only time we ban people AFAIK is if they start randomly changing statuses and posting garbage
[11:42] <gotunandan> hello, can this bug #423070 be marked as a 'wishlist' ?
[11:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 423070 in update-manager "Feature request: ability to view changelogs instead of progress bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423070
[12:47] <szczym> helo, could you please tell me to who i should ask for fixing bug #263442 ? thanx for info
[12:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 263442 in mc "mcedit is not longer the default editor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263442
[13:05] <hggdh> szczym, I do not know, but I will look. Probably this is a change inherited in Ubuntu from Debian/upstream
[13:06] <szczym> That would be really cool, filks who love the mc also love the mcedit
[13:06] <szczym> *folks
[13:07] <hggdh> :-) yes, I would expect so
[13:08] <szczym> probably its just small, tiny 1 bite config patch but it would make our lives so nicer any time we get to new box (we=mc lovers)
[13:09] <hggdh> szczym, if you want to, you can look at the source package, at bugs.debian.org, or upstream (wherever it is). This is what I intend to do
[13:10] <szczym> i will do so! but im not developer, so will get back to you, if you don`t mind hggdh
[13:11] <hggdh> no, no problem at all. I will be momentarily off, while I drive to my contract, then I will log in again
[16:55] <hggdh> hi micahg
[16:56] <micahg> hi hggdh
[16:56] <hggdh> so you liked it?
[16:56] <hggdh> BTW, good iteraction with mac _v last night!
[16:57] <micahg> thanks
[16:59] <szczym> hggdh: I could not found any config settings about #263442 (im not C# guy) - could you have a look on it ?
[16:59] <^arky^> Hi, What does it mean when a bug has 'Nominated  for Karmic  by xxx'
[17:01] <hggdh> szczym, I will keep on looking for it. So far, a quick search on the git log does not show any intended change to disable the internal editor
[17:02] <hggdh> ^arky^, it means someone thinks it should be fixed for (in this case) Karmic
[17:02] <^arky^> thanks hggdh
[17:02] <szczym> oky doky hggdh, thanx !
[17:02] <hggdh> ^arky^, but it does not -- yet -- mean it *will*. The nomination has to be accepted
[17:03] <hggdh> szczym, you are welcome
[17:04] <dholbach> Ubuntu Developer Week in #ubuntu-classroom - NOW! :-)
[17:06] <^arky^> Ic
[17:27] <szczym> helo, how to link that bug #339563 to gphoto package in ubuntu ?
[17:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 339563 in ubuntu "Unable to mount Canon cameras via USB (Jaunty)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339563
[17:28] <szczym> i did found the ajax all ready, thanx
[17:53]  * cwillu pokes the boogz with a stick
[18:38] <micahg> hggdh: did you like my twist on the CoC?
[18:38] <hggdh> micahg, yes
[18:38] <hggdh> well done
[18:40] <micahg> ty
[18:42] <hggdh> and the chat that followed it was also good :-)
[19:04] <mac_v> micahg: COC twist? where in -classroom? did you give a talk now?
[19:04] <hggdh> :-)
[19:05]  * mac_v would have liked an answer from hggdh than a sly smile ;p
[19:06] <hggdh> :-D
[19:06] <hggdh> mac_v, this was about the chat you and micahg had earlier (some 12 hours ago). I liked the way Micah explained the issue to you
[19:07] <hggdh> (and I hope you understood the point, BTW)
[19:07] <mac_v> ;p
[19:07] <hggdh> being nice is difficult, and it is something we have to strive for.
[19:09] <hggdh> sometime ago I emailed our ML with a link to an email thread that shows a real nice response to an over-aggressive poster. Let me find it
[19:11] <mac_v> hggdh: that user , has been only active since when papercuts has started , always replies in huge mails and talks like he knows it all , and that the linux devs are stupid!
[19:12] <mac_v> <i'm not justifying myself>
[19:12] <hggdh> mac_v, I understand -- I followed the trail. Still, one should be polite on the answer.
[19:12] <hggdh> mac_v, and I am not picking on you. I myself have done the same before. It *is* difficult
[19:12] <mac_v> i agree :)
[19:14] <mac_v> hggdh:  he comments about it so much and in such detail , either he must know how to fix it and doesnt want to do it... and doesnt want to... or he is trying to prove a point that he is better :/
[19:15] <mac_v> final i lost it today :(
[19:15] <hggdh> :-D
[19:15] <hggdh> we all lose it one day. What, nowadays, I do is get out of the keyboard for a while, before responding
[19:17] <mac_v> hehe , i dont minds rants , where users say why have you not fixed it... but his last comment was "Fix IT" ... i wont use linux..." thats what got me off ! :(
[19:17] <mac_v> i should have moved away from keyboard :(
[19:18] <mac_v> not got me off! got me *pissed* off! ;p
[19:18] <hggdh> :-)
[19:20]  * mac_v tires to forget about such crap and back to pleasant theme making :)
[19:22] <mac_v> hggdh: BTW the reply you sent to the ML?
[19:26] <hggdh> trying to find it :-(
[19:29] <hggdh> well, could not find it. But the email response that I loved is here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-07/msg00012.html
[19:29] <hggdh> even though the reporter was behaving like a righteous idiot, the response was absolutely civil. I am not sure I would be able to do it
[19:30] <hggdh> mac_v, ^^
[19:31]  * mac_v reads
[19:33] <mac_v> hggdh: lol , did you read the reply to that mail! they dont realize that such mails are archived and can kick them in the ass later!
[19:45] <hggdh> heh
[19:45] <hggdh> this is one of the reasons why we should be careful on what we write...
[19:55] <micahg> mac_v: when I have question about my tone in a response, I usually run it by hggdh or someone else to be sure I'm not going voerboard
[19:55] <micahg> *overboard
[19:59] <mac_v> micahg: yeah , i'v noticed, once you asked asac if you had defended the mozilla team in the right way.
[20:00] <micahg> the thing is we're all learning all the time
[20:03] <mac_v> true , no one knows all or is perfect :)
[20:03] <mac_v> except sabdfl ;p
[20:05] <mac_v> hehe , that line in the COC was cute ;)
[21:35] <^arky^> Can someone try to reproduce bug 366648
[21:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366648 in openoffice.org "Language modules language defaults to Czech" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366648
[22:11] <^arky^> Can someone try to reproduce bug 366648
[22:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366648 in openoffice.org "Language modules language defaults to Czech" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366648
[22:27] <hggdh> ^arky^, I cannot confirm. Mine show all lang mods as English
[22:27] <hggdh> oh, but I am running 9.10...
[22:29] <hggdh> brb in 30min... back to the hotel
[22:34] <^arky^> hggdh: Perhaps setting locale to Indian Standard Time (+530) will help reproduce this bug
[23:17] <trothigar> If I have uploaded a patch to launchpad which I believe fixes a bug what should I set the status of that bug to?
[23:18] <bdmurray> trothigar: likely triaged or in progress what bug number is it?
[23:20] <trothigar> bdmurray, 421275
[23:21] <bdmurray> bug 421275
[23:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 421275 in flatnuke "Package description has a typo in project URL" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/421275
[23:23] <bdmurray> trothigar: subscribing the universe sponsors team is the right thing to do there.  which you did thanks!
[23:28] <trothigar> bdmurray, right and only thing to do there?
[23:31] <bdmurray> trothigar: yep, it looks good to me.  thanks for the fix!