[10:07] <kelemengabor> hi guys, could somebody create an irc cloak for me? I'm Ubuntu member since yesterday: https://launchpad.net/~kelemeng
[10:10] <niko> Pici, elky can you status ?
[13:11] <bernard-opic> hi! Is there someone here that could help me to obtain my Ubuntu cloak :-) My LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bernard-opic. TIA
[13:15] <niko> Pici: elky can you status ?
[13:15] <elky> niko, status?
[13:15] <niko> elky: about kelemengabor and bernard-opic request
[13:16] <elky> niko, i see no url for kelemungabor
[13:16] <niko> https://launchpad.net/~kelemeng ?
[13:17] <elky> kelemeng is already in the cloaked launchpad group
[13:18] <elky> launchpad is sloooooooooow tonight
[13:18] <niko> so i can cloak him
[13:19] <elky> they're both fine to be cloaked.
[13:20] <bernard-opic> I must leave my desk right now, do you need me?
[13:21] <niko> bernard-opic: /whois bernard-opic
[13:21] <bernard-opic> nice, i received the NickServ notification
[13:21] <bernard-opic> thanks a lot
[13:21] <bernard-opic> bye
[15:12] <bernard-opic> nickname: bopic
[15:48] <cpio> hi
[15:48] <cpio> I'm sorry but I changed my nickname after having requested an Ubuntu cloak, and I lost my cloak
[15:48] <cpio> I really apologize for that, and could it be possible to restart the process with my new nickname?
[15:51] <nalioth> cpio: /msg nickserv help group
[15:51] <cpio> thx
[18:53] <m4v> In u-es-ops we're looking forward to bring up the issue about the management of #ubuntu-es* channels to the Irc Council, can somebody tell me when is the next meeting and how to add the subject in the agenda?
[18:54] <m4v> I'm looking in http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar but I can't find anything. the last meeting was the 9th it seems so
[19:09] <jussi01> m4v: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda
[19:09] <jussi01> Myrtti: on the fridge, this sunday?
[19:09] <jussi01> err
[19:09] <jussi01> m4
[19:09] <jussi01> m4v:
[19:09] <jussi01> oh dear... not my best moment
[19:13] <jussi01> m4v: you can also add background here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil/IRCteamproposal - this helps the IRCC members to think about things prior to the meeting.
[19:14] <m4v> erUSUL, you can this sunday? I remember you saying that sundays weren't good for you :(
[19:32] <erUSUL> m4v: 1300 utc is a better hour i would try to be there
[19:37] <erUSUL> may i add something to the agenda m4v ? i can not promise to be there but i'll try
[19:38] <jussi01> erUSUL: You or your proxy needs to be there.
[19:39] <m4v> erUSUL: sure, was thinking what to write for a background
[19:40] <erUSUL> jussi01: ok; i would not add an item to the agenda. i i finally show up. the isuue can be discussed anyway ?
[19:41] <jussi01> erUSUL: We need it on the agenda so people can plan for it. If you have a "proxy" (m4v for example) then you can get him to follow it up.
[19:41] <jussi01> but if you want it to be discussed please put it on the agenda and wiki discussion page
[19:41] <erUSUL> jussi01: ok; should i mention the proxy on the wiki ?
[19:41] <jussi01> erUSUL: yes
[19:42] <erUSUL> m4v: i put you as my proxy ? i dunno if the fact of not being op would hust... but you can stand as user of the channel
[19:42] <erUSUL> hurt the case*
[19:43] <jussi01> erUSUL: you need to put someone who can speak for you.
[19:43] <erUSUL> jussi01: ok; understood
[19:49] <m4v> erUSUL: I don't mind speaking for you if you can make it, I still hope for you to be there, as you're the most active op in u-es
[19:49] <m4v> err, if you can't make it*
[20:18] <jussi01> erUSUL: you need to be specific about what you want us to do. also, some background at :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil/IRCteamproposal wouldnt hurt.
[20:20] <erUSUL> jussi01: well well i did not want to writte half of EL Quijote in the agenda page. Background is being discussed will came later...
[20:20] <erUSUL> jussi01: i will try to writte something short and to the point.
[20:22] <jussi01> erUSUL: I mean on the agenda it should be something like: Founder replacement for #ubuntu-es
[20:24] <erUSUL> jussi01: well i do not want to replace the founder if some other compromise can be reached. i do not want +F a +f would be more than enough
[20:26] <erUSUL> jussi01: but if there is the only way (replace the founder) to get more active ops so be it
[20:26] <jussi01> erUSUL: righ
[20:26] <jussi01> t
[20:27] <m4v> erUSUL: well, you can add both opions to be discussed?
[20:27] <m4v> options*
[20:27] <RoAkSoAx> jussi01, I think we rather explain you guys whats going on in #ubuntu-es and then you can decide if we should change founder or not
[20:27] <jussi01> RoAkSoAx: yeah, sure. just make sure its clear I guess. and as much background as you can would be nice.
[20:28] <RoAkSoAx> jussi01, awesome. We'll do then. Thanks :)
[20:30] <erUSUL> the thing is the founder is not online most of the time. we lack active ops and only he can gave access to new ones. he does not do a good job aproving ops becouse the last ones he aproved are not very active either
[20:31] <erUSUL> result. most of the time i'm the only op around and the situation is not nice
[20:32] <jussi01> erUSUL: bring it to the meeting. ;)
[20:32] <erUSUL> becouse we are flooded by some script kiddies every-day ...
[20:33] <erUSUL> jussi01: i sent him a few mails a 2 memos so far. no response. he denied to m4v to have receibed anything from me
[20:34] <jussi01> erUSUL: to the meeting. and the background page. ;)
[20:35] <erUSUL> jussi01: so what you think is a good headline for the aginda page?
[20:36] <jussi01> erUSUL: just something dscriptive. sum up the issue in one line.
[20:36] <erUSUL> jussi01: if someone just gave me +f i doubt he would even notice and none would be hurt ;).
[20:37] <jussi01> erUSUL: Doesnt just work like that. Anyway, please bring it all to the meeting
[20:38] <erUSUL> jussi01: m4v RoAkSoAx niko something like -->  Lack of ''active'' ops is hurting #ubuntu-es. The Founder isn't responsible so we ask for a solution (give +f to an active op so more ops can be gathered)
[20:39] <jussi01> sounds good to me
[20:39] <erUSUL> ok
[20:40] <m4v> erUSUL: +1
[20:42] <m4v> jussi01: we'll write something for the background tomorrow or asap.
[20:44] <erUSUL> jussi01: may i ask what's up with LjL and its floodbots? it seems that he does not support the decission of banning mibbit...
[20:45] <jussi01> erUSUL: Im actually trying to get work done here, so maybe later
[20:46] <erUSUL> jussi01: thanks for all the help.
[20:51] <cpio> hi.
[20:51] <cpio> is there a staffer here that can help me, I would be happy to get my cloak /ubuntu/member.
[20:51] <cpio> my LP page is https://launchpad.net/~cpio.
[20:51] <cpio> thanks in advance :-)
[20:53] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> donde puedo reportar un op
[20:53] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> ese erUSUL
[20:53] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> list
[20:54] <niko> 2009/09/02 21:53:34 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Information on #ubuntu-esp:
[20:54] <niko> 2009/09/02 21:53:34 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Founder    : [_-GnUMeNaL-_]
[20:54] <niko> fyi
[20:54] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> yes
[20:54] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> si por q erUSUL no me deja entrar al canal
[20:55] <niko> with your multi ban evade / insult ?
[20:55] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> niko erUSUL i putme a ban
[20:55] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> whi ??
[20:55] <Pici> niko: When you get a moment, could you enable cpio's ubuntu/member/cpio cloak?
[20:55] <niko> sure
[20:55] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> yes
[20:55] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> shure
[20:56] <niko> Pici: he is in the right group ?
[20:56] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> see the log of the channel
[20:56] <Pici> niko: I'll take care of that in a moment ;)
[20:56] <cpio> Pici: thanks
[20:56] <niko> ok :)
 xD
 aja...ni el marcador...ni lo que habia dentro de el..que por desgracia no tenia copiado en ningun otro lugar
 eso de "marcador" a que se refiere?
 un lanzador
 dianita: fuiste a "editar marcadores" y le diste a "quitar"?
[20:57] <niko> cpio: you are now cloaked
 aja
 si
 pues en ese caso tiene que estar por algún lado
 pero no se aparte de el emtodo buscar como mas encontrarlo?
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> *** voyager1 ( n=carlos@112.2.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es ) entra [14:45]
[20:57] <niko> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: use pastebin
[20:57] <cpio> Pici: many thanks
 dianita te acuerdas del nombre o parte de alguna serie que tenias ahi?
 :(
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> * [_-GnUMeNaL-_] asesorias Freenode en #freenode
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> *** modo: ChanServ pone [+o erUSUL]
[20:57] <Pici> cpio: Sure, and congrats :)
 si
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> *** modo: erUSUL pone [+d LiNuX]
 dime una de las series... por ejemplo "Primera temporada de Friends.rar", pues abres una terminal y escribe: find / -iname "*friends*" 2>/dev/null
[20:57] <cpio> :-)
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> *** modo: erUSUL pone [-o erUSUL]
 O.o
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> * Disconnected
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> eeee
[20:57] <m4v> this is excatly why you're banned in #ubuntu-es
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> ¡¡
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> say me
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> what
[20:57] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> whi ?
[20:58] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> por q
[20:58] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> no hice nada
[20:58] <niko> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: you forget yesterday i think
[20:58] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> niko yesterday
[20:58] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> O.o
[20:58] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> haaaa
[20:59] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> oks i dont remove my ban ?
[20:59] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> yes or not
[20:59] <niko> stop evading ban, insult ops, and perhaps a day, you will be unbanned from #ubuntu-es
[20:59] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> yes but remove my ban and
[20:59] <niko> #ubuntu-* namespace is under canonical, so you should drop it
[21:00] <niko> i mean #ubuntu-esp
[21:00] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> this is a server GLP
[21:00] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> xD
[21:00] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> freeeeeee
[21:00] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> or not
[21:00] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> ???
[21:00] <m4v> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: your actitude isn't helping you to get unbanned..
[21:01] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> XD
[21:01] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> im sorry
[21:01] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> remove my ban
[21:01] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> and close the channel
[21:01] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> ok
[21:01] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> ?
[21:02] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> ok and drop the channel
[21:02] <niko> that doesn't work like that, you should ask in #ubuntu-es-ops channel
[21:03] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> quit my ban
[21:03] <niko> ask #ubuntu-es ops for that
[21:04] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> niko in this channel not help me
[21:04] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S
[21:04] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> only ignored my
[21:04] <jussi01> !enter
[21:05] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S
[21:05] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> remove my ban please
[21:06] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> -
[21:06] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> * Added erUSUL!*@* to ignore list
[21:06] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> -
[21:06] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :P
[21:06] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> oki
[21:06] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> XD
[21:06] <niko> that doesn't help you to discuss your ban in #ubuntu-es i guess...
[21:06] <m4v> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: you don't seem to understand, #ubuntu-es *ISN'T* a channel for chatting, erUSUL told you about it, many people did it too. you did not listen and mocked everyone and the in the channel.
[21:21] <niko> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: can you explain us why you evade the quiet jussi01 put on you here ?
[21:22] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S
[21:28] <Myrtti> pro tip: DON'T EVADE BANS
[21:29] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> XD
[21:29] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> dont ban me
[21:30] <m4v> don't break channel's rules, and listen to ops.
[21:31] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S i dont break the rules
[21:31] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> just help
[21:31] <Myrtti> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: er, how does evading bans NOT break the rules?
[21:32] <Myrtti> I'm a bit lost here, perhaps you could help me and tell?
[21:32] <Myrtti> hm?
[21:33] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> yes but
[21:33] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> baned me for what ?
[21:33] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> i dont write
[21:33] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S
[21:33] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> and ban me
[21:33] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> U.u
[21:34] <KB1JWQ> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: And your solution to this is to ban evade rather than PMing an op to find out why you were banned?
[21:34] <m4v> if you're getting banned, there's a good chance that you're breaking some rule.
[21:36] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S
[21:36] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> i don't break the rules only just help
[21:38] <m4v> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: you were doing a lot of offtopic noise in #ubuntu-es, when people pointed that out, you mocked them, you also abused of the bots commands, erUSUL gave you a fair warning and you still dismissed it.
[21:38] <niko> ( and after that you evade a lot of time )
[21:39] <Myrtti> weird way of helping
[21:42] <m4v> and of course, without mentioning all the insults you said to erUSUL, if you can't show some respect to the people present in the channel, then you can't be in the channel.
[21:44] <niko> [_-GnUMeNaL-_]: first thing, stop evading ban on #ubuntu-es, now.
[21:45] <m4v> if you can understand that, then take a break, cool off, and think about it. eventually you will be able to return to #ubuntu-es, but only if stop acting the way you acted until now
[21:45] <m4v> yeah, sure, evading bans isn't going to help...
[21:45] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> :S
[22:08] <[_-GnUMeNaL-_]> niko thanks for all friend
[23:17] <FoolishOwl> Hello. I gather this is where I ask about getting a cloak.
[23:18] <nhandler> FoolishOwl: Do you have a link to your Launchpad profile?
[23:18] <FoolishOwl> Yes. Shall I just put it here?
[23:18] <nhandler> FoolishOwl: Yes, that would be great
[23:19] <FoolishOwl> https://launchpad.net/~bgvaughan
[23:19] <nhandler> FoolishOwl: Ubuntu cloaks are only for Ubuntu members
[23:19] <nhandler> !membership > FoolishOwl
[23:20] <nhandler> FoolishOwl: You can get a generic unaffiliated cloak by following the steps listed on http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[23:21] <FoolishOwl> Thanks. I misunderstood what was meant by "member."