[04:00] <squidly> I'm running trunk on from the weekly builds
[04:01] <squidly> and its an old revision 21261, I was told that it's 3 weeks old and I've got a nice bug that is killing me, any way to update to r21261?
[04:05] <superm1> squidly, there was a problem with the build system, it should be fixed very soon
[04:05] <superm1> Daviey, ^
[04:06] <superm1> whenever you can get the teal button going again)
[04:06] <squidly> superm1: ok thanks
[04:06] <squidly> i'm getting bitten by a bug that is annoying the hell out of me
[04:06] <Zinn> squidly: Please watch your language.
[04:07] <superm1> understandable
[04:07] <squidly> sorry
[09:26] <Daviey> superm1: there is a karmic build aready in the ppa from last night..
[09:26]  * Daviey checks if superm1 pushed a fix to the build script.
[15:02] <pmind> hi, can anybody halp me to configure lirc? I followed the instruction on your howto, but I can't
[15:05] <pmind> I installed setserial and I set it to manual and the I created the file autoserial.conf and I put it into /etc
[15:12] <pmind> *help
[15:20] <pmind> in dpkg-reconfigure lirc I chose my remote controller (Pinnacle Pro) and at second step (IR trasmitted) I chose "Custom"
[15:22] <pmind> Is it better than I reconfigure lirc-modules-source?
[16:07] <pmind> anyone can help me? I f someone can, I could rewrite everything I wrote
[16:47] <pmind> can anyone tell me if mythubunt need to compile lirc-modules-source?
[17:50] <pmind> pmind: can anyone tell me if mythubunt need to compile lirc-modules-source?
[18:02] <cr3> when I preseed mythbuntu/install_type string Frontend, I still seem to be prompted for Master Backend Connection Information
[18:03] <cr3> I looked at wubi and that's the same preseed value they use
[18:05] <superm1> cr3, so that's normal
[18:05] <superm1> unless you actually preseed the info to contact your backend
[18:05] <superm1> it can't be asked in wubi's GUI, so it's the one set of questions not preseeded in ubiquity
[18:06] <superm1> if you preseed a master backend/frontend instead, those questions aren't asked
[18:06] <superm1> pmind, you don't "need" to. it's there in case you needed a newer lirc driver.
[18:06] <superm1> they're built into the kernel
[18:07] <orificium_myth> if I have the weekly builds package installed and trunk enabled.  Will update manager automatically notify me of the latest builds or is there something I have to do?
[18:08] <cr3> superm1: that's what I used to have: ubiquity mythbuntu/install_type string Frontend Master Backend/Frontend
[18:08] <superm1> orificium_myth, yeah it will
[18:08] <superm1> cr3, yeah it all depends on what type of install you are trying to do :)
[18:09] <superm1> if you are just looking for an automated test, you probably want to set it to "ubiquity mythbuntu/install_type string Master Backend/Frontend"
[18:09] <cr3> superm1: oh, that was a typo on my part, I used to have that and I got prompted
[18:09] <cr3> superm1: I'll try again though, I might've been trying too many things at once
[18:10] <superm1> cr3, yeah i would recommend you take the preseed from wubi as a "basis" to understand what questions get asked, and go from there
[18:10] <cr3> superm1: that's what I've been doing since your suggestion the other day, thanks by the way, that made my life much easier
[18:11] <superm1> no prob :)
[18:11] <orificium> Hm, strange, since the first time I've did the sudo apt-get upgrade and it removed the old myth packages, and installed the new ones, I've yet to see any myth related changes in Update Manager.  And that was at least 15 days ago.
[18:11] <superm1> orificium, there was something wrong with the trunk builds for 2 weeks
[18:11] <superm1> so that coincides about correctly
[18:11] <orificium> ah ok
[18:12] <superm1> they should be fine today, and mirroring automatically to the US and UK mirrors within 6 hours
[18:18] <pmind> superm1: so if I use serial connection, should I load some modules? which one?
[18:18] <superm1> pmind, you might need lirc-serial then likely
[18:19] <superm1> just put it in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf if you are using a custom remote
[18:22] <pmind> in my lsmod there isn't lirc-serial. so, does it work if I put that module in hardware.conf?
[18:23] <pmind> sorry, if my questions are stupid!
[18:23] <superm1> i don't know if it will work, you'll have to try it
[18:23] <superm1> setting up a serial remote is unfortunately a lot of work generally, so you will probably need to mess around a lot
[18:24] <superm1> you are more likely to get some better results helping from a forum post TBH so that you can summarize your setup concisely since serial is so complex
[18:24] <superm1> !forums | pmind
[18:24] <Zinn> pmind: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[18:25] <pmind> superm1: ok, thank you, I'll post a message on forum
[18:25] <superm1> best of luck :)
[19:27] <rhp_> Hi all. Yesterday I installed a fresh mythbuntu 9.04 and immediately after the weekly builds repos package. After that, I updated all updatable packages. Now I have a system that will not start mythfronend anymore.
[19:28] <rhp_> It seems that a number of themes are not updated, and they are incompatible with the trunk version.
[19:28] <rhp_> Any help?
[19:29] <rhp_> Also, many mythtv packages now have number 0.21.0+trunk...   I expected 0.22...
[19:37] <orificium> I had to run mythfrontend -r
[19:37] <orificium> it resets the theme to GANT I believe
[19:37] <orificium> try that
[19:37] <rhp_> Yup that works
[19:37] <rhp_> thx
[19:37] <orificium> And the 0.21.0+trunk is normal
[19:38] <orificium> since .22 hasn't been officially released
[19:38] <rhp_> I did see packages on ppa with 0.22 in the name though?
[19:38] <rhp_> And it says trunk-0.22 in the apt-source lists
[19:41] <orificium> I'm not sure of the reasons for all the naming conventions.  But I'm running mythbuntu trunk with .22 and a lot of the packages show up as .21  trunk 21261 I beieve.
[19:42] <orificium> I hear a new build should be propagating now though. :)
[19:42] <rhp_> ok
[19:42] <orificium> The weekly builds have been inactive for the last two weeks.
[19:44] <orificium> I've been using the Graphite theme - http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/theming/386266
[19:44] <rhp_> Another question: why does mythbuntu use x11vnc for remote access? For some reason that quite works for me. I never had problems with vino, though
[19:44] <rhp_> What does 'inactive' mean? No changes?
[19:45] <gbutters_work> not working
[19:45] <gbutters_work> builder broken
[19:45] <orificium> rhp_: There were some problems with the trunk builds for the last couple weeks.  But superm1 was telling me that was fixed and they should be mirroring over to the US and UK within the next 6 hours
[19:48] <rhp_> ok, clear enough
[19:48] <orificium> I'm sure you could use Vino if you wanted to.
[19:49] <orificium> Are you not able to vnc to your mythbuntu box?
[19:49] <rhp_> No
[19:50] <rhp_> Sure I could use vino, but I'd like things to work as much as possible 'out of the box'
[19:50] <rhp_> I was just wondering why mythbuntu uses x11vnc, while ubuntu seems to have settled on vino
[20:04] <jarjar> hello does anyone speack french?
[20:04] <jarjar> i need help please
[20:21] <orificium> rhp_: I believe Vino is packaged with Gnome hence why Ubuntu gets Vino.  Whereas Mythbuntu is XFCE
[20:23] <orificium> jarjar: Your english looks good.  What is your question?
[20:31] <rhp_> orificium: nevertheless, installing vino and making an autostart entry makes for a smooth ride.
[20:32] <rhp_> With x11vnc I've seen a lot of trouble.
[20:32] <rhp_> vino would make a better default IMHO
[20:32] <rhp_> Anyway, I got it running myself now, so vnc works now.
[20:33] <orificium> What are you using for tuners?
[20:34] <orificium> I have a pcHDTV-5500 and a HDHomeRun.  Unfortunately I misplaced my power adapter for my HDHR when I moved recently.
[20:34] <orificium> And even more unfortunate, it wasn't one of the defective ones that they are placing for free.
[20:34] <orificium> *replacing
[20:38] <rhp_> orifinium: are you asking me or jarjar?
[20:41] <orificium> Asking you
[20:42] <orificium> I'm curious about others experience with unencrypted QAM over their local cable lines.
[20:42] <rhp_> I've got 3 Hauppauge PVR tuners, 2x350 and 1x150.
[20:43] <rhp_> No HD content here (and I have no clue what QAM is...)
[20:43] <orificium> QAM is the signalling cable companies use. Whereas ATSC is over-the-air digital
[20:44] <orificium> what are you plugging up to your tuners?
[21:18] <rhp_> I'm still on old-fashion analog coaxial cable. And happy with it too. The PVRs make the analog signal into an mpeg2 stream, which works great.
[22:49] <slaine_> hey guys
[22:49] <slaine_> I've just upgraded from 9.04 to the latest 9.10 and I'm having some trouble getting mythfrontend to start
[22:50] <slaine_> Are there any known steps required to clear out old settings or anything ?
[22:50] <squidly> slaine_: error logs?
[22:51] <slaine_> nothing obvious in /var/log/mythtv/mythtvfrontend.log
[22:51] <squidly> slaine_: is the backend running?
[22:52] <slaine_> yeah
[22:52] <slaine_> and I can browse to mythweb too
[22:52] <squidly> ok
[22:52] <squidly> what is the error when you try to start up your front end?
[22:53] <gbutters> i bet it is the theme is incompatable
[22:53] <slaine_> There's no error, it just gets so far and then seems to quit
[22:53] <slaine_> I'm guessing that too
[22:53] <slaine_> based on the logs, it's the only obvious answer
[22:53] <slaine_> http://pastebin.com/m2253af39
[22:53] <slaine_> hence the question about steps to reset old settings
[22:54] <slaine_> It's starting up MythUI with QT Painter
[22:54] <squidly> slaine_: try running it from a terminal
[22:54] <orificium> slaine_: Try mythfrontend -r
[22:54] <orificium> might be a theme issue
[22:55] <gbutters> does mot look to be a theme problem
[22:55] <slaine_> Floating point exception (core dumped)
[22:55] <slaine_> I'll try this time with -r
[22:57] <slaine_> can't see any core files to get a back trace
[22:57] <slaine_> What's the new default theme then
[22:57] <orificium> I think it's going to be Terra, but is GANT for now?
[22:58] <orificium> -r should make it GANT
[22:59] <gbutters> yes GANT and it is using it
[22:59] <slaine_> and does gant work ?
[22:59] <squidly> yes
[22:59] <orificium> yup
[22:59] <squidly> slaine_: what version are you running?
[22:59] <superm1> it will eventually be Terra last i heard too
[23:00] <slaine_> squidly: whatever's in the 9.10 repo's
[23:01] <orificium> "mythfrontend --version"
[23:01] <slaine_> 0.22.0~trunk21
[23:02] <slaine_> http://pastebin.com/m74101a28
[23:03] <orificium> yay, updates have mirrored. :)
[23:03] <orificium> I'm afraid something is going to break.   heh
[23:04] <squidly> lol
[23:04] <slaine_> my wife is going to kill me
[23:04] <squidly> slaine_: lol
[23:04] <squidly> slaine_: try the weekly builds
[23:04] <slaine_> it's easy for you to laugh
[23:04] <slaine_> ;)
[23:04] <squidly> they are working for me
[23:04] <slaine_> how do I do that ?
[23:04] <squidly> slaine_: my wife, son and daugter all murder me when myth breaks
[23:04] <slaine_> dpkg --reconfigure ....
[23:04] <squidly> one sec kids
[23:04] <slaine_> k
[23:05] <squidly> dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos
[23:06] <orificium> slaine_: I installed 9.04, installed weekly builds repo package from website, ran sudo apt-get upgrade, and ran mythfrontend -r
[23:06] <squidly> that is what I'm running
[23:06] <orificium> Using new themes and VDPAU pretty successfully
[23:06] <slaine_> nice
[23:06] <slaine_> I'm hoping it'll be ok on Via OpenChrome
[23:06] <squidly> orificium: what good is VDAPU?
[23:07] <orificium> oh yeah, had to enable nvidia propietary drivers too
[23:07] <orificium> squidly: if yuo have an nvidia 9000 series card, it'll off-load video processingto GPU
[23:07] <gbutters> slaine_: run mythfrontend -v all in terminal and pastebin output
[23:07] <squidly> ahh okies
[23:08] <orificium> I think it does 8000 too
[23:08] <orificium> XvMC for 6 and 7
[23:08] <squidly> ahh okies
[23:08] <slaine_> gbutters: what level of v ?
[23:08] <gbutters> all
[23:09] <squidly> I love how some of the newer things with .22 work
[23:10] <orificium> squidly: in particular?
[23:10] <squidly> the SG for videos
[23:10] <squidly> no more requirement for nfs
[23:10] <orificium> SG?
[23:10] <squidly> Storage Groups
[23:11] <orificium> ah
[23:11] <squidly> I've spent today working with them
[23:11] <squidly> getting them working
[23:11] <orificium> Yeah i was reading up on them in the wiki page for transition to .22
[23:11] <squidly> yea well I have it doing video and cover art too
[23:12] <squidly> actually I'm doing the resets to my videos right now to do the cover art via myth protocol
[23:12] <orificium> The new metadata/cover art grabber is very cool.  Someties I have to hit W a few times though.
[23:13] <slaine_> gbutters: http://pastebin.com/m706e5e75
[23:13] <squidly> orificium: it's just slow at times
[23:13] <orificium> I should rename the videos to a better convention and I'd probably have fewer issues with the metadata grabber
[23:13] <squidly> I've notice that
[23:13] <orificium> squidly: that's what I figured.
[23:14] <orificium> I haven't yet grabbed any data for movies yet though.  TV shows mostly.
[23:14] <squidly> even the updates for the movies is a bit slow from the backend to the frontend
[23:15] <orificium> squidly: have you tried the Graphite theme yet?
[23:15] <squidly> not yet
[23:16] <orificium> I like it more than Terra.
[23:16] <orificium> Downloaded a ton of hi-res background images for it.
[23:17] <orificium> there is a bug in it though for the edit metadata page.
[23:17] <orificium> just gotta modify the xml
[23:18] <slaine_> If I wanted to run mythfronted.real via gdb to trap the floating point exception, what parameters do I need to pass to it ?
[23:21] <slaine_> hmm, the bug seems to be in QT
[23:21] <slaine_> http://pastebin.com/m2b9e97b
[23:35] <slaine_> Huzzah, success
[23:36] <slaine_> removed libqt3-mt and mythstream (only package left that was depending on it) and I now see the GANT themed menu
[23:36] <slaine_> How do I install Terra and Graphite themes then, as I can't stand GANT
[23:37] <slaine_> there doesn't seem to be pre-built packages for them
[23:40] <gbutters> install mythtv-themes
[23:41] <slaine_> I have done
[23:41] <slaine_> I was blind though, terra was in there
[23:41] <slaine_> I've switched it back to the mythbuntu theme though, as I guess I'm just used to that
[23:47] <slaine_> Hmmm
[23:47] <slaine_> XvMC-vld doesn't seem any better on this
[23:48] <slaine_> 2009-09-02 23:46:30.908 VideoOutputXv: XvMC Adaptor Name: 'XV_SWOV'
[23:48] <slaine_> Unable to create XvMC Surface.
[23:56] <slaine_> Any Via CLE266 users ?