[00:05] <bazhang> niko, thanks
[00:06] <bazhang> got to head to work now :/
[00:06] <niko> np
[05:58] <Flannel> !away > eBayk1d_PC
[07:05] <nalioth> Myrtti: he's left the network
[07:06] <Myrtti> on a speshul train?
[07:06] <nalioth> Myrtti: yes, the one between the "J" and the "L" lines  :P
[07:07] <Myrtti> ♥
[07:45] <jussi01> oh... dear... [09:42:43] <Gouda> Is the automatix site down or something? when I try to get the key for it, it times out
[07:50] <nalioth> seems someone just woke up from their long winter's nap . . .
[07:52] <jussi01> hehe
[07:57] <elky> he's right though, it's does indeed get a servfail.
[07:57] <elky> :D
[08:29] <Tm_T> hi
[08:58] <topyli> hi Tm_T
[08:59] <topyli> how's the old back?
[09:00] <Tm_T> hurts
[10:09] <topyli> Tm_T: :(
[10:09] <topyli> are you walking and dancing though?
[10:17] <Tm_T> barely walking
[10:20] <Tm_T> getting worse <3
[10:21] <Tm_T> hi Mamarok (:
[10:28] <Mamarok> hi Tm_T
[10:28] <Mamarok> greets from Tokamak sprint in Randa, CH
[10:29] <Tm_T> say hi from me
[10:29] <Mamarok> gorgeous weather, beautiful mountains here :)
[10:31] <Mamarok> Tm_T: greetings back :)
[11:21] <eagles0513875> hey guys i would like to discuss my bans, and the possibility of them getting lifted. i would really love to contribute to the ubuntu community
[11:22] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what part do you wish to discuss ?
[11:22] <eagles0513875> everythign
[11:22] <eagles0513875> i really love the distro as a whole and i would love to try and contribute to it
[11:22] <ikonia> ok - so go thorugh them and lets see if anything can be resolved
[11:22] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok - so what's stopping you helping ?
[11:23] <eagles0513875> bans on channels
[11:23] <ikonia> which ones ?
[11:23] <eagles0513875> motu and dev channels but in the devs i stay quiet
[11:23] <ikonia> how is non-access to those channels stopping you helping ?
[11:24] <ikonia> (we've covered this before but I'm curious to what your current response is)
[11:24] <eagles0513875> when i have issues i usually ask questions that might not be appropriate to the channels i do have access to
[11:24] <ikonia> eagles0513875: such as ?
[11:24] <eagles0513875> for instance in the dev channels i am willing to test new things out on my install
[11:24] <ikonia> eagles0513875: but the developers do not want your input - hence you're banned
[11:25] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you've blown your chance for that too often, so lets forget that
[11:25] <eagles0513875> any chance at being unbanned in motu
[11:25] <ikonia> eagles0513875: why do you need access ?
[11:25] <eagles0513875> i honestly dont remember what on earth i did to get banned nin that channel
[11:25] <ikonia> eagles0513875: the whole of your behaviour got you banned in multiple channels
[11:26] <eagles0513875> but things have changed
[11:26] <ikonia> they have not
[11:26] <ikonia> and you've said this before (this is the price of saying I've changed so often)
[11:26] <ikonia> why do you need access to those channels to help ?
[11:26] <eagles0513875> right now i just feel super limited as to what i can do
[11:26] <ikonia> why ?
[11:27] <eagles0513875> im currently learning c++ and will eventually like to contribute more then just filing bugs
[11:27] <ikonia> ok - so learn c++
[11:27] <ikonia> fix bugs
[11:27] <eagles0513875> and just submit patches to launchpad
[11:27] <ikonia> if you wish to yes
[11:27] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ikonia: i not involved with this ban but why did he get banned?
[11:40] <jussi01> gnomefreak: have you looked in the bt?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> jussi01: no but i will when i get a minute
[11:43] <jussi01> gnomefreak: Id highly suggest it, as its a rather long and complicated case.
[12:13] <nhandler> Mez: Tm_T: jussi01: When one of you get a chance, you might want to review the ban forward in #kubuntu-devel. From what I can see, dwidmann has fixed his connection, but I will leave the decision about whether or not to remove the ban forward up to you guys
[12:14] <Mez> @btlogin
[12:15] <Mez> nothing on the bt about it
[12:16] <Mez> nhandler: if you set the ban, and you think that it's good to remove, then feel free to remove it :D
[12:16] <nhandler> Mez: I didn't add anything (not sure if I have access). Pretty much, it was requested that a ban forward be setup due to him having a bad connection (joining/quiting every minute or so). No OPs for there were around
[12:16] <nhandler> Mez: Will do. Just wanted to check with a named OP there first
[12:17] <Mez> nhandler: any op is free to remove bans they set in *buntu channels as far as I'm aware.
[12:21] <jussi01> Mez: nhandler is freenode staff, hence he is asking ;)  nhandler, Ill have a look, and thanks for alerting us.
[12:21] <jussi01> Ok, looks like you sorted it. :)
[12:22] <Mez> jussi01: I know he's not a named op. But when I say "op" I mean "anyone who can @ themselves in the channel" ... hence, if he wants to remove a ban he set as staff, he's free to do so.
[12:22] <Mez> I don't think that that's an unreasonable thing to say.
[12:22] <Mez> If you set a ban, you have the right to remove it.
[12:31] <ikonia> bazhang: I've muted the range to sort this out
[12:32] <bazhang> ikonia, nice going
[12:43] <elky> Mez, freenode staff who are not on op teams are only supposed to perform op duties for channels when requested. they're not supposed to request themselves to do things.
[12:47] <Mez> elky: that's just confused me.
[12:47] <nalioth> nhandler also is an Ubuntu member
[12:47] <Mez> elky: My point was :- if someone places a ban on a channel, then they should feel free to remove the ban if they wish.
[12:48] <elky> Mez, it was not nhandler's ban.
[12:48] <elky> Mez, hence, nhandler doing it would be wrong.
[12:48] <elky> s/doing/removing/
[12:49] <nhandler> elky: I added the ban, but I believe it was ryanakca who requested it be added
[12:50] <elky> nhandler, "<nhandler> Mez: I didn't add anything" confused me, sorry. Either way, it was technically ryanacka's ban, in that case. At least as far as freenode's "staff shoudl not interfere" thing goes.
[12:51] <Pici> Why did ryanakca request it? he has access in #kubuntu
[12:51] <nhandler> elky: That comment was with regards to the ban tracker
[12:51] <nhandler> Pici: It is #kubuntu-devel (where he doesn't have access)
[12:51] <Pici> nhandler: ah, I missed that, sorry.
[13:00] <topyli> now there's a musician who realizes his stuff is rubbish: http://static.iltalehti.fi/hullumaailma/kitarajaroskisSP_410_hu.jpg
[13:03] <topyli> darn. that was so obviously meant to be on this channel, not some nonsense channel :\
[14:37] <varun> Hi
[14:37] <varun> can i post this in
[14:37] <varun> #ubuntu
[14:37] <varun> ?
[14:37] <varun> http://pastebin.com/mcce5b85
[14:39] <Mamarok> varun: that should go to a maling list, or send it to the news mailing list of Ubuntu, if it's not Ubuntu related, then certainly not
[14:40] <varun> thank you
[16:36] <DJones> Hi, can I report somebody/bot sending a pm as soon as people join #ubuntu - Username is SEXYbloger, pm is to do with animaldin & womensweight blogspot
[16:36] <Pici> DJones: Yep, just saw that
[16:36] <DJones> ok, thanks
[16:42] <nalioth> the bot is gone
[17:15]  * genii hears something about UDW going on in -classroom
[17:15] <jussi01> ubottu: test
[17:15] <jussi01> which bot, where?
[17:16] <jussi01> !test
[17:16]  * jussi01 shrugs
[17:17]  * genii eyeballs ubottu suspiciously
[17:17]  * jussi01 eyeballs genii suspiciously
[17:18]  * genii sips innocently
[17:19]  * Myrtti gives ubottu a raspberry 
[17:19] <Myrtti> *PLÖÖÖÖÖRRRRTTT*
[17:21] <Pici> O___O
[17:49] <Tm_T> hi
[18:09] <jcastro> can someone keep a lazy eye on #ubuntu-classroom while I go to lunch?
[18:17] <Pici> jcastro: I'll keep an eye on it
[18:17] <jussi01> jcastro: any ubuntu member should be able to: [20:16:51] [ChanServ] 2     *!*@ubuntu/member/*    +votiA [modified ? ago]
[18:17] <Pici> pfft, good timing there
[18:17] <jussi01> *g*
[21:30] <Flannel> !away > Callum|School
[21:31] <Tm_T> I feel so useless
[21:42] <Flannel> !away > NorwayGeek|Away
[21:42] <Flannel> Tm_T: why's that?
[22:36] <Flannel> I'm sick of (two) people doing that constantly