| cr3 | eeejay: hey dude, have you run the trunk of mago in karmic lately? | 00:38 |
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| ara | good morning all! | 07:08 |
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| davmor2 | fader_: Morning dude nice break? | 13:58 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Not at all. Schlepping boxes the whole time... I'm tired! | 13:58 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Next time I'm calling you to come help move my furniture. | 13:59 |
| davmor2 | ? you moved then or something? | 13:59 |
| davmor2 | fader_: No worries as long as you cover the return flight costs :) | 13:59 |
| fader_ | :) | 14:00 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Yup, moved on Monday | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | still in boston though yeah? | 14:01 |
| fader_ | davmor2: More or less :) Moved from north of Boston to east of Boston | 14:03 |
| fader_ | s/east/west | 14:03 |
| fader_ | One of those directions, anyway | 14:04 |
| fader_ | I'd have trouble breathing if I moved too far east of Boston | 14:04 |
| davmor2 | fader_: now let me help you out here N=up, E=right, S=down, W=left it's quite easy really ;) | 14:04 |
| davmor2 | fader_: yeah but it would be great fun to pop the bubbles to find out what your saying :) | 14:05 |
| fader_ | davmor2: In Boston they're all just consensual illusions. It's not rare to be traveling due east on a road that's marked 'north'. Or worse, to be on a road that is simultaneously marked as highway #xx north and highway #yy south | 14:06 |
| davmor2 | fader_: that's nothing, we have an anticlockwise road that goes clockwise ;) | 14:09 |
| fader_ | davmor2: That's just because you're driving on the wrong side of it ;) | 14:10 |
| davmor2 | It's you lot driving on the wrong side only us and australia go it right :P | 14:11 |
| smoser | slangasek, is there a reason that server isos don't show up at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ ? also at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all only upgrade show up? | 15:41 |
| davmor2 | smoser: there are a whole bunch of fixes being uploaded till there in there's basically nothing to test | 15:43 |
| davmor2 | cr3: have you had a whole lot of failures on testing? | 15:44 |
| cr3 | davmor2: I've only had three systems failing to install so far, another problem related to enabling ntp when installing and some mago stuff | 15:45 |
| davmor2 | cr3: no issues post install? I'm getting a failed fsck after every reboot | 15:46 |
| cr3 | davmor2: yeah, I'm actually working on that exact problem right now, that's what I thought was related to "enabling ntp" above | 15:46 |
| cr3 | davmor2: I disabled ntp and a couple systems just finished installing, same problem | 15:47 |
| cr3 | s/and a/on a/ | 15:47 |
| davmor2 | cr3: no I think it is utc as the system clock that is causing the issue | 15:47 |
| cr3 | davmor2: this thing: d-i clock-setup/utc boolean true | 15:48 |
| davmor2 | if you run fsck you get Superblock last mount time (Wed Sep 2 16:18:53 2009, now = Wed Sep 2 15:31:31 2009) is in the future or something similar | 15:48 |
| cr3 | davmor2: exactly, it's a time thing | 15:48 |
| davmor2 | cr3: apparently it sounds like an old issue reoccurring :( | 15:49 |
| smoser | davmor2, is there a way i can see the list of blocking items on server isos ? | 15:50 |
| davmor2 | smoser: grub2 I think is the biggy on server | 15:50 |
| smoser | davmor2, where do i see that list ? | 15:52 |
| davmor2 | there isn't one | 15:53 |
| davmor2 | smoser: it's from a bug | 15:53 |
| smoser | sorry for being dense, is there a list of bugs that are blocking ? i was confused by "it's from a bug". what bug ? | 15:55 |
| smoser | i'm hoping to start testing UEC/Ec2 images, and want to know if there are bugs blocking the server iso release for testing (or any other release) that would also affect ec2/uec | 15:56 |
| cr3 | davmor2: might you happen to know which bug might refer to the original occurence of this fsck problem? | 15:57 |
| davmor2 | cr3: No idea cjwatson said it was probably :) | 15:58 |
| davmor2 | cr3 try bug 422869 | 16:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 422869 in e2fsprogs "fsck halts bootup when checked file has timestamp in the future from other Ubuntu installation" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422869 | 16:02 |
| fader_ | Heh, just came over to see if anyone was experiencing fscks on first boot, but I don't think I have to ask after reading scrollback ;) | 16:06 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Have you filed a new bug about this or are you waiting to hear from cjwatson? | 16:07 |
| davmor2 | NO not filed a new one but there is an existing that is sounding amasingly similar :) | 16:08 |
| fader_ | davmor2: I'll assume we don't need to file one since you've been talking with cjwatson about it | 16:16 |
| davmor2 | fader_: and now Keybuk :) | 16:18 |
| fader_ | :) | 16:20 |
| fader_ | davmor2: If they give you a definite on that bug number and/or ask you to file a new one, can you let me know? I want to make sure to note it in the certification testing reports | 16:20 |
| fader_ | (since I'm seeing it too) | 16:21 |
| davmor2 | fader_: np's :) | 16:21 |
| davmor2 | I've just asked keybuk if he wants me to add the info to the bug I listed above | 16:21 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Thanks, bud. | 16:27 |
| davmor2 | fader: new bug I'll get one together | 16:34 |
| davmor2 | fader_: bug 423247 | 16:47 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 423247 in ubuntu "Superblock last mount times cause fsck to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423247 | 16:47 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Awesome, thanks | 16:47 |
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| fader_ | cr3: Is it possible that requirements of the form 'alsa.type==foo' have broken, maybe as a result of removing the dependency on hal? | 17:16 |
| fader_ | I'm having a lot of tests getting skipped that shouldn't be | 17:16 |
| cr3 | fader_: yep, I haven't found time to migrate those | 17:17 |
| fader_ | cr3: Ah, okay. Same story for the power management tests I take it? | 17:17 |
| cr3 | fader_: you can change the alsa one to: device.category == 'AUDIO' | 17:18 |
| fader_ | cr3: I'd rather not deviate too far from what's in the repositories, since I'm submitting results; I'll test this stuff manually outside of checkbox for now | 17:19 |
| fader_ | I'll be retesting these things again so we can pick up those tests in checkbox next time | 17:19 |
| cr3 | fader_: I've fixed checkbox (base), the changes will appear on the next update | 17:27 |
| fader_ | cr3: Thanks. I'll likely retest these for the next alpha or beta failing that. I've just run cheese and sound recorder and sleep/hibernate in the meantime | 17:31 |
| jcollado | Hi ara | 17:32 |
| ara | hey jcollado | 17:32 |
| nagappan | hi ara jcollado | 17:33 |
| jcollado | hi nagappan | 17:33 |
| nagappan | hi ara | 17:33 |
| jcollado | Anybody waiting for mago meeting? | 17:34 |
| nagappan | ara, there was a question from Willi Walker, will some one from g-d-t will be attending this year GNOME Boston conference ? | 17:34 |
| nagappan | jcollado, me in listening mode :) | 17:34 |
| ara | nagappan, I am not :( | 17:34 |
| nagappan | ara, ok | 17:34 |
| nagappan | ara, both me and eeejay will not be attending too | 17:35 |
| ara | jcollado, you can start with the first agenda item | 17:35 |
| jcollado | Sure | 17:36 |
| jcollado | I just saw there are some merge proposals (some of them approved by everybody) | 17:36 |
| jcollado | that are still pending | 17:36 |
| jcollado | So I though it would be nice to discuss what to do about them | 17:36 |
| jcollado | just not to forget that they're there | 17:37 |
| jcollado | and avoid anybody feeling ignored | 17:37 |
| ara | good, thanks javier. I will try to review them next week. I am still trying to catch up after my holidays | 17:37 |
| ara | I will try to comment them briefly this week | 17:38 |
| ara | and more deeply next week | 17:38 |
| jcollado | Ok, if nobody is in a hurry, then it's fine to postpone this | 17:38 |
| jcollado | So unless anybody has a concern, we can move to the second item. Ok? | 17:39 |
| jcollado | Let's review first item next week | 17:39 |
| ara | OK, perfect | 17:39 |
| jcollado | Second item is that I wanted to know a little more about the packaging plans for mago | 17:40 |
| jcollado | This actually related to one of the merges, but I felt it's worth to talk about it separatedly | 17:41 |
| jcollado | So, first question is | 17:41 |
| ara | OK. First thing. Mago is in karmic | 17:41 |
| jcollado | how many packages? | 17:41 |
| ara | http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/mago-is-in-karmic/ | 17:41 |
| ara | only one, with the library and the framework, not the tests | 17:41 |
| jcollado | Ok, I see | 17:42 |
| ara | Ubuntu development is already on Feature Freeze, so no new things can be added | 17:42 |
| jcollado | Any plan to add the tests? | 17:42 |
| ara | besides, I don't think ubuntu archive is the right place to hold tests, as can change a lot | 17:42 |
| ara | I think PPAs are a better place for those, what do you guys think? | 17:43 |
| jcollado | Then the question is if that it's going to be uploaded to the PPA | 17:43 |
| jcollado | I agree | 17:43 |
| jcollado | Also, it would be nice to have those packages for jaunty in the PPA | 17:43 |
| jcollado | Do you agree? | 17:43 |
| ara | well, PPAs are Personal archives, any one can do anything | 17:43 |
| ara | they are not official | 17:43 |
| ara | so if you want to add those to the PPA, go ahead | 17:44 |
| ara | I think it can be useful | 17:44 |
| jcollado | Yes, but since the debian directory was removed from the source | 17:44 |
| jcollado | it might be good to get it back | 17:44 |
| jcollado | to reproduce the same package as in karmic, right? | 17:45 |
| ara | well, we can do other thing | 17:45 |
| ara | lets maintain a branch only with the debian folder contents | 17:46 |
| ara | named "packaging" or something | 17:46 |
| ara | then, if you want to build a package | 17:46 |
| ara | you can do: | 17:46 |
| ara | bzr branch lp:mago | 17:46 |
| ara | bzr nest lp:~mago-contributors/mago/packaging debian | 17:46 |
| ara | and then build the package | 17:47 |
| ara | that's more flexible | 17:47 |
| ara | because it allows to keep packaging from code separate | 17:47 |
| jcollado | Looks good. I didn't know about bzr nest. | 17:47 |
| jcollado | Is that subcommand part of any plugin? | 17:48 |
| ara | yes, bzrbuilder: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/BzrBuilder | 17:48 |
| jcollado | Thanks for the link | 17:49 |
| ara | as ubuntu development is moving towards bzr more and more, jwestby is providing some useful tools :) | 17:49 |
| ara | next great thing would be to keep daily ppas with the latest code of mago and the tests :) | 17:50 |
| jcollado | Yes, that would be cool | 17:50 |
| jcollado | Ok, then may I assume you'll create that packaging branch? | 17:51 |
| ara | jcollado, ok, I'll put that as an action item to myself | 17:51 |
| jcollado | Thanks. | 17:51 |
| jcollado | I think that's all I wanted to comment for this meeting | 17:52 |
| ara | OK, I have one small item left | 17:52 |
| ara | it is just a quick reminder to new contributors to use the epydoc syntax on the new code | 17:52 |
| ara | to be able to keep the API documentation up to date | 17:52 |
| ara | I will try to find a better place other than people.canonical.com to upload the documentation | 17:53 |
| jcollado | Ok. I'll pay attention to that in the future | 17:53 |
| ara | anything else? nagappan, eeejay? | 17:54 |
| nagappan | ara, as I earlier requested in pvt chat :) | 17:54 |
| lajjr | sorry was on the floor was told by the wife about meeting.. | 17:54 |
| nagappan | ara, post the initial review request to g-d-t mailing list | 17:55 |
| nagappan | ara, so others will be aware of this team work | 17:55 |
| ara | good point, nagappan | 17:55 |
| ara | OK. I'll write down the notes of the meeting and will send them to the list | 17:56 |
| ara | thanks all! | 17:56 |
| nagappan | ara, cool, thanks | 17:56 |
| jcollado | Thanks | 17:56 |
| lajjr | thanks ara.. | 17:56 |
| lajjr | sorry about missing the meeting. | 17:56 |
| slangasek | smoser: sorry, as noted the images had not been posted because there were known problems with them (specifically related to eucalyptus) - I have the 20090902 build posted now, though I'm not sure whether this is final - has anyone done any testing of this image in the meantime, or were people waiting for it to be on the tracker? | 17:57 |
| ara | lajjr, don't worry, lajjr, I'll send the notes | 17:57 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: all the iso's need respining for cjwatson's fix to grub2 and others | 17:58 |
| smoser | slangasek, mathiaz has been testing it | 17:58 |
| lajjr | thank you I was on the floor to watch production project it was my wife thank god for wives. | 17:58 |
| smoser | slangasek, i was asking primarily to find if there was anything that would have affected the uec/ec2 images. | 17:58 |
| lajjr | Be Safe all I am on her computer lol.. | 17:59 |
| lajjr | She told me to go on my own. | 17:59 |
| mathiaz | slangasek: more fixes will be needed for eucalyptus | 17:59 |
| mathiaz | slangasek: I'm preparing the patches now - soren will probably upload a new package later | 18:00 |
| slangasek | mathiaz: ok; please keep me informed (you and soren) so I know when to post the new images to the tracker | 18:01 |
| lajjr | I also will be adding more image later today for the logo and the theme will be set arount it I have some done just have to pick an image I colored them the tango theme. I want to finish the others before you choose one of them. | 18:01 |
| ara | lajjr, nice! | 18:02 |
| lajjr | Ok I have to get back to work guys I will try to get an e-mail out you ara about a few items a cloak arond a computer and a few others I will email the list went I put them up really neat images for the logo. | 18:04 |
| ara | lajjr, ok, thanks! and rock on! | 18:04 |
| lajjr | thanks and again Be Safe.. | 18:05 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: around? I'm going to mention alpha 5 testing in the meeting. You might get asked about current status, if you don't mind. | 18:09 |
| davmor2 | no probs :D | 18:10 |
| slangasek | smoser, mathiaz: server ISO respun; that at least picks up all the grub fixes and whatnot, and if we need another respin for eucalyptus fixes after, -server is cheap to respin :) | 18:31 |
| plars | who's testing isos? | 21:43 |
| plars | I've only seen reports from me and davmor2 on anything so far... | 21:44 |
| davmor2 | me | 21:46 |
| pedro_ | I'm syncing the latest isos, will test again in a few minutes | 21:46 |
| plars | pedro_: I'm currently limited to testing UNR under virtualbox, and getting fsck failure at every boot due to last mount time being in the future | 21:50 |
| plars | pedro_: curious if that's a side effect of vbox, or if people are seeing that on real hardware | 21:50 |
| davmor2 | plars: no it's an installer bug got to the bottom of it earlier | 21:52 |
| davmor2 | plars: set UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS | 21:52 |
| plars | davmor2: I wondered if it wasn't... is there a bug on it already? | 21:54 |
| davmor2 | plars: discovered as a side effect of another bug | 21:54 |
| plars | I see it | 21:56 |
| plars | thanks | 21:56 |
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