[00:06] statik, Okay. Any news? [00:09] CardinalFang, i mailed you the discussion we had in #ubuntu-desktop [00:09] james_w is in england, pitti is in germany, so i don't necessarily expect them to upload until they wake up [00:10] but rickspencer3 knows that the fix is ready, and it's on the alpha5 blocker list, so should be uploaded first thing in the european morning if not tonight [00:20] Rgr. [00:30] hi, i've just installed ubuntu one, i copied a folder with serveral subfolders and files inside; on the website i can only see the folder structure, but not the file list [00:35] can anyone help me with this please? [00:35] hi, rblst [00:35] rblst, $ u1sdtool --current-transfers [00:37] Current uploads: 0 Current downloads: 0 [00:38] in nautilus everything appears just fine [00:39] hi, urbanape [00:39] rblst, in Nautilus on the same computer, yes? Not a different computer as the first. [00:40] CardinalFang: yes, on my own computer [00:41] I'm probably getting in urbanape's hair. Sorry. [00:41] nope, I was gonna start with some similar stuff. [00:43] rblst, Hrm, I suppose the files have been uploaded but the web UI is stale. I don't know how to test for that. [00:44] rblst, Create a file in the web UI and see if it shows up in the desktop, perhaps? [00:44] * CardinalFang shrugs. [00:46] Good night, all. Good luck, rblst. [00:46] I can replicate something similar here. [00:47] Reproduce or replicate? [00:47] reproduce [00:47] thanks for your help CardinalFang; good night [00:47] i can create a folder via the web ui, but it does not appear in nautilus [00:47] I created a sparse directory structure populated with non-empty text files and dragged the top-level folder into Ubuntu One. [00:48] and? same syndrome? [00:48] seems to be. [00:48] hmm [00:48] the top level folder was recreated on the web [00:48] but no subfolders and no text files. [00:48] whereas your desktop reflects the changes? [00:49] yeah, my desktop reflects all the folders and files [00:49] looks like my Ubuntu One got logged out (locally) [00:50] I just forced it to reconnect and now all the folders and files are up on the web [00:50] do you see the applet in your menu bar? [00:51] yes, i've reconnected [00:51] you can check the logfile in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log [00:53] uh, it's quite detailed :) [00:53] when you reconnected, did the files show up in the web? [00:54] most of my files seems to have got lost on the web :\ [00:54] have they all remained in your local filesystem, though? [00:54] (just being safe rather than sorry) [00:57] seems so, yes, but now the name of the folder i copied got a .u1conflict postfix, and i got this notification popup saying that ubuntu one is updating files [00:58] that is the local situation :) [00:58] but, apparently, there is no network activity [00:58] strange... [01:00] So, I just relaunched my client applet (and changed its prefs to always remain visible) [01:00] I created a new folder in my home directory with another non-zero length text file and dragged the folder into Ubuntu One [01:00] this time, it was fully replicated on the web. [01:01] (although all my text files end up with a zero-length filename~ file along side them) [01:02] brb [01:02] hmm [01:02] is this a temporary error, or should i ascribe this to 'beta'? [01:03] best thing to do is report a bug against https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client, and attach the logs from ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log [01:03] then we can get some good analysis from the guys who work on the file syncing client to be certain about it [01:07] i might do statik, thanks [01:12] thanks everyone, and specially you, urbanape [01:20] oh, shoot. well, glad I could help a bit. [01:21] * urbanape files the u1sdtool --current-transfers under useful diagnostic tools. [01:46] Hi! [01:46] I have a (simple) question... [01:46] howdy [01:46] :) [01:47] here it goes [01:47] when ubuntuone launched I installed it on Linux Mint 7 (9.04 derivative) [01:47] had no problems running it [01:48] tried the same today: "fatal error" [01:48] is any chance developers changed permissions over OS recognition? [01:50] I don't think we've done anything that draconian. [01:50] eu, no, we're happy for any OS to run it [01:50] :D [01:50] more likely a plain ol boring bug [01:50] strange... [01:50] do you want me to paste the apport summary? [01:53] did it not post properly? [01:53] hurrah, our desktopcouch fixes for alpha5 just got uploaded a few minutes ago [01:53] yes, it did, but I'm affraid it can be a duplicate [01:53] you can use the pastebin if you like: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [01:53] statik, excellent! [01:54] statik, how's your javascript? [01:54] urbanape, it's all muddied with the other languages ;) [01:55] but i can figure stuff out sometimes. aquarius is your man though, especially re browser stuff [01:55] just checking for duplicates... [01:57] I'm just looking for someone to verify that while the latest Couch JS stuff ships with OAuth libs and the tests actually test that functionality, oauth capabilities aren't actually reflected in the higher-level APIs (load(), save(), deleteObject(), &c) [01:58] it seems, based on my reading, that the oauth tests are all accomplished by lower-level CouchDB.request() calls. [01:58] which is probably fine, really, but it sorta starts to beg the question about why have a more abstract API? [02:15] ok guys, just submited apport repport to LP [02:15] ubuntuone-client [02:16] if it is a duplicate, I plea for your mercy in advance [02:18] eu, no worries, duplicates are fine [02:18] we will be sure to look at it [02:19] thanks for filing the bug, and sorry it wasn't working for you [02:20] no problem [02:21] you're doing an excellent job here [02:21] i'm sure this service will help ubuntu rise to the top [02:21] ;) [02:24] do you have a directory in your $HOMEDIR called 'Ubuntu One'? [02:26] nope, but the first time i installed ubuntuone it created one, not this time, though [02:26] should i manually create one? [02:26] just in case... [02:31] Well, there's a slightly improvemment, but i still can't authenticate... [02:33] I'm pretty sure there's a way to clear your auth creds [02:33] just a sec [02:33] thanks [02:33] try `u1sync --authorize` [02:34] on console? [02:34] not workin' [02:35] can you check your keyring? [02:36] might you have an outdated UbuntuOne auth token? [02:37] what's the easiest way to find out? [02:37] You say this is based on 9.04? [02:37] yes [02:38] do you have the same app menu items? [02:38] more or less, yes [02:38] Applications -> Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys [02:38] ok [02:39] so, under my login passwords I have one entry for UbuntuOne token for https://ubuntuone.com [02:39] none here [02:40] k, and u1sync --authorize didn't do anything [02:40] nope :( [02:40] command not found [02:41] ah [02:42] I think it's in ubuntuone-client-tools, an optional package [02:43] yup [02:43] let me check synaptic [02:44] strange, can't see it [02:45] maybe it's a dev repository? [02:45] i just have the ppa repos [02:46] http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/beta/ubuntu/ [02:46] deb and deb-src [02:47] checking [02:50] Hmm. I'm not using that particular ppa. Probably because I'm hitting karmic directly [02:50] oh, right [02:52] I'm sure this might be a red herring, though. Like I said, the ubuntuone-client-tools package is optional. You should be able to authenticate without u1sync [02:52] :( [02:52] ill keep trying [02:53] silly question: you've installed the gnome client, right? [02:53] yes [02:53] and you've added that computer? [02:54] ubuntuone-client-gnome and ubuntuone-client [02:54] yes, and I deleted the computer and added it again [02:54] if you log into ubuntuone.com and click on Account and "Manage the computers on my account" [02:54] (We'll eventually be giving them more humane names) [02:55] :) [02:56] a key id appears, i deleted this three or four times [02:56] and tried again [02:57] didn't try a gnome log-out though [02:57] just web log out [03:02] So, what I did [03:03] Quit ubuntuone-client [03:03] deleted my known computers from the web [03:03] deleted my auth token from Passwords and Encryption Keys (which you admittedly don't have) [03:03] restarted ubuntuone-client [03:03] which opened the web browser to re-add this computer [03:03] and all seems to be back to normal. [03:04] yes, i tried that, still don't work... [03:04] :( [03:04] do u think a system log out could be an issue here? [03:05] just in case... [03:05] hrm. Okay, I'll write up what I've suggested and where we are (re-adding the Ubuntu One folder eliminates one of the error logs that came in with the apport) [03:05] and I'll note that we've gone through re-authentication/re-adding your computer [03:05] indeed [03:06] I think if you're okay adding system log info to the bug report, it might not hurt [03:06] no problem [03:06] what u need? [03:08] (wow, now it doen't even start the client. i did nothing, i swear!) :) [03:09] uh huh, that's what they all say... [03:09] so, logs. [03:09] :) [03:10] ok, what logs do u need? [03:10] do you have anything of note in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log ? [03:11] what is the problem? [03:11] i've some txt 4 today, yes [03:12] the other info goes back to the launch days back in July when everything was ok [03:13] dobey: oauth [03:13] dobey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/422933 [03:13] Launchpad bug 422933 in ubuntuone-client ""Fatal Error" on Linux Mint (9.04)" [Undecided,New] [03:15] the problem isn't oauth [03:15] :) [03:15] and you have an oauth token in your keyring [03:16] the problem is that syncdaemon isn't running, and it's failing to start [03:16] or rather, it looks like it's constantly starting and dying :( [03:16] that sees familiar [03:16] but my key doesn't appear on seahorse [03:17] i don't know where you're looking, but the oauth-loging.log clearly shows that it has a key :) [03:17] :) [03:17] geeez... [03:17] 2009-09-02 01:51:11,164:164.834022522 UbuntuOne.OAuthDesktop.auth Access token successfully found in the keyring [03:18] yep, i see it now [03:18] i wonder what broke in the syncdaemon :-/ [03:18] ... [03:19] * dobey tests something real quick [03:19] :) [03:22] hello... my u1 is eating all my upload connection. could someone help me? [03:22] hi [03:23] if you right click on u1 applet you can change the up limit [03:23] (the same for down is valid too) [03:23] easy to find [03:27] uh [03:27] so i need to update it first. XD how can i do this? [03:27] the icon just apears when i kill the daemon and theres no option to do this [03:28] you're running 9.10 alpha? [03:28] this = change limits [03:28] auch [03:28] nonono [03:28] 9.04 [03:28] ur name is confusing me HAHAHA where are you from? [03:29] ur nick* [03:29] can't help u bro, u need professional help like i do... :) [03:29] lol k [03:29] but where are u from? haha [03:29] what does this mean in japanese? [03:30] ;) [03:30] uh? i'm asking where do you live.. [03:30] actually, i just want to know why ur nickname is "eu" haha [03:30] sudo apt-get update [03:30] because "eu" means "I" in portuguese [my language] [03:30] sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client-gnome [03:30] bem-vindo meu filho [03:30] :D [03:30] HAHAHAHA [03:31] taquilpa [03:31] (since you presumably have the PPA set up already, given you're running the client) [03:31] i've ran an update some minutes ago [03:31] but i didn't see if u1 was on the list [03:31] :P [03:31] qual teu problema, primeira pessoa? [03:33] even my cat is trying to help me here [03:33] :D [03:34] hahaha [03:34] ur apt-get install just said its already updated. [03:35] oh [03:35] duh [03:35] preferences [03:35] HAHA [03:35] done =D ty so much dobey [03:38] crikey [03:39] urbanape, eu: i don't know what your problem is... i can't make it restart so much on my machine :( [03:40] and i had to change the code to explicitly fail in order to get a failure at all [03:41] wow [03:41] just one thing [03:42] system monitor tells me that ubuntuone-client-applet and ubuntuone-clien (sic.) are zombies [03:43] dobey, yeah, I haven't been able to reproduce the problem, either. [03:44] the applet too? [03:44] yes [03:44] can't kill them [03:44] the applet shouldn't be [03:44] it should be S not Z [03:44] what does ps say about it? [03:44] i know, but the applet stopped working [03:45] (i didint do nothing, i swear!!) [03:45] :) [03:47] you can't click on it at all? [03:48] nope [03:48] totally disappeared [03:49] wait, it's on again [03:50] with the beautiful readish exclamation mark though [03:50] must have connected and timed out doing nothing then [03:50] oh [03:50] :) [03:50] :-/ [03:50] let me check what sys monitor have 2 say [03:51] everything looks cool, even the sync daemon [03:51] there's a pref to keep it visible always. [03:51] (if you like) [03:51] yes, i prefer that way [03:52] (it's just this service is perfect for me, i'm a writer) [03:52] i need my files everywhere [03:52] and pen drives fail [03:52] believe me [03:55] (curious, i'm not able to delete file even on the web [03:55] that's a recently filed bug [03:55] a regression [03:55] ohh [03:56] at least, I think it is [03:56] :) [03:57] it needs therapy then! =) [03:58] regression hipnotizing session [03:58] =) [03:59] One more thing - it keeps me telling to allow my machine to authenticate, which led to two different keys to be attributed to the same PC [04:00] it keeps reauthenticating now? [04:03] yes [04:03] or at least sometimes [04:03] let me try another file [04:05] hummm, complicated stuff, let me try to explain: [04:06] 1 - I clean my authenticated machines online and logout [04:06] 2 - I quit u1 [04:07] 3 - i restart u1; it asks for a auth [04:07] 4 - i put a new file on u1 folder; it asks me again [04:07] 5 - i get two different auth keys 4 the same machine [04:08] you see 2 keys in the web for that same machine you mean? [04:08] yep [04:12] k, I'm about to crash. Thanks, dobey, for helping out. eu, good luck getting it sorted. [04:13] ok [04:13] thanks 4 the help mate [04:14] that's weird [04:14] indeed [04:14] sounsd like it didn't get stored locally the first time [04:15] i really should get to sleep myself [04:15] permissions? [04:15] :) [04:15] maybe, but i doubt [04:15] your log implies that the keyring is accessible just fine [04:15] (since it determined you had a token stored there) [04:15] right [04:16] truth is, i can't find it [04:16] but it's here! =D [04:16] are you looking under the "login" keyring under the "Passwords" tab in seahorse? [04:16] (or were you looking under Keys?) [04:17] both [04:17] no keys [04:17] just wi-fi network and MSN protocol [04:17] under the Passwords tab? [04:17] yes [04:18] do you have some other keyring there? [04:18] dunno, beats me... [04:18] sorry, where shall i look? [04:19] in the passwords tab, how many folder icons with "Passwords: $NAMEHERE" do you see? [04:19] 1 [04:19] oh, ok... [04:19] yes, 1 [04:19] weird [04:19] indeed [04:19] just have login folder [04:20] i have no idea what the heck is going on with your computer :) [04:20] LOL [04:20] me neither [04:20] must be paranormal activity [04:20] aliens? [04:20] :D [04:20] could be [04:20] u never know [04:20] well, let's dream about them [04:21] you probably exhausted for helping me out [04:21] thanks a lot mate [04:21] i'm exhausted anyway [04:21] too many weird bugs lately [04:21] comes with the job [04:21] :D [04:21] and now i must get some sleep [04:21] later [04:21] later, thanks a lot [04:22] i'll be passing by === teknico is now known as teknico_away === teknico_away is now known as teknico === teknico is now known as teknico_away === teknico_away is now known as teknico [12:53] for people with an interest in moths: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn6QeoIcW_k&fmt=18 [12:54] How can I download the client source? [12:55] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-client/trunk/files says "Internal server error" [12:56] No worries, I accidentally found the tar.gz file [12:56] *tarball [13:04] LordMetroid: does this link work better for you? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+download [13:04] Yepp, I got the tarball from that [13:07] LordMetroid: You should also be able to do "bzr branch lp:ubuntuone-client" to get it, if you want it in bazaar. [13:07] I am fine with the tarball [13:13] thank you though [13:32] aquarius, you aboot? [13:32] urbanape, yep === teknico is now known as teknico_away [13:33] heya, can you spare a set of eyes for a few minutes? [13:33] yep [13:34] These are the oauth tests for couch: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/couchdb/trunk/share/www/script/test/oauth.js?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [13:34] k [13:34] if you can look over where the actual oauth stuff is and confirm to me that they haven't yet provided for oauth behavior in the more abstract APIs, I'd appreciate it. [13:35] load(), save(), deleteObject(), &c [13:35] judging by the tests, they're only using the more primitive CouchDB.request() [13:35] I am 84.6% sure they have not, but I shall look :) [13:35] I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something very simple. [13:38] I mean, I guess we could just hoist the test's oauthRequest and use it throughout our sync.js === teknico_away is now known as teknico [13:39] that's what I reckon would probably be best [13:40] I do believe that couch oauth is headers only -- it won't work if it's in the querystring or POST parameters [13:40] so just wrap request as oauthed_request and add the headers at the last moment before sending, I reckon [13:41] maybe we could fashion those headers and tack them onto the couch object and patch up CouchDB.request ourselves [13:42] then our sync.js can continue using the API [13:42] patching *our* couchdb.request, yeah. that's a good idea [13:42] *shrug* okay, just so I wasn't missing something obvious. [13:42] can't patch upstream [13:42] sure [13:42] I don't think you are. If you are then we're missing it together. Go team. [13:43] I actually meant monkeypatching from sync.js, just so we don't have to maintain our own patches on couch.js [13:44] that's why i was thinking of a wrapper, since monkeypatching is the tool of Satan and makes debugging hard :) [13:54] thisfred, of "u/xxx/xxx/[userid]/[databaseid]" What hash is that? SHA224? [13:56] and "userid" is the numeric immutable id, not the mutable "username", right? [13:59] jdo, I assume it's still not deployed yet, but what is the interface for that user-info "whoami" lookup API? [14:02] CardinalFang, :) it's deployed but I found a darn bug [14:02] CardinalFang, :( [14:03] CardinalFang, thanks for reminding me, i need to file it [14:07] Dang. [14:07] CardinalFang: md5, since it's not used for security [14:08] a lot lighter to compute [14:08] er, alright. I still don't want collisions! [14:08] CardinalFang: which we won't have: [14:08] if userid1 and userid2 have the same hash, all that means is they'll have the same parent directory [14:08] thisfred, good morning! i see couchdb ssl support was committed in the 0.10.x branch. I'm preparing a new snapshot package now [14:08] statik: awesome [14:09] Woot. [14:09] I'm talking about per db auth in #couch now [14:15] rawk [14:15] thisfred, I have been thinking about the quota stuff [14:16] ah right [14:16] another thing. My mind is full of things. [14:16] what's wrong with adding an unremoveable validation document which denies writes for overquota dbs? [14:17] won't affect the local DB, it'll just merrily stop replicating new stuff to the cloud [14:17] I am handwaving how we *tell* people about that for the moment, and just thinking about the underlying technical implementation. [14:20] aquarius: yes that sounds ok, except how do they solve the problem then? [14:20] temporarily stopping replication has the advantage that when they fix the problem, everything just works again === teknico is now known as teknico_away === teknico_away is now known as teknico [15:00]