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bratschemccann: I think kwwii is the person to ask about the wallpaper contest.  I don't think he hangs out in here though, so I'll try to remember to ask him about it tomorrow.02:15
bratsche(I obviously don't pay attention to this channel either, since you asked that like 4 hours ago)02:16
bratsche:)02:16
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SiDi_MacSlow: i have a question regarding atk support in notifyosd11:28
SiDi_i wanna throw a volume confirmation notification, it allows me to set a title but not a body11:29
SiDi_if i set a body (for a11y compatibility), the bubbles wont appear11:29
MacSlowSiDi_, that's due to it being a icon-value layout11:31
SiDi_oh, yeah..11:31
SiDi_the spec says developers should use the body to describe the confirmation bubble for a11y purposes. I suppose the simple fix would be to tell them to use the title instead :]11:32
MacSlowSiDi_, I need this "condition" to be able to identify the layout-case11:32
MacSlowSiDi_, yes11:32
MacSlowsee notify-osd/examples/icon-value.py11:32
MacSlowSiDi_, pushNotification()11:33
SiDi_yup, noticed11:33
SiDi_shall i update the spec and say to use the title then ?11:33
MacSlowSiDi_, no I'll see that with mpt11:34
MacSlowSiDi_, btw... do you mean the spec or the dev-guidelines?11:34
SiDi_wiki.u.c/NotifyOsd11:35
SiDi_ i think :P11:35
SiDi_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Volume changes11:35
MacSlowyeah.. just found it myself11:36
tgpraveenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD/PreviousCompatibilityFixes11:44
tgpraveenhere for transmission-gtk11:44
tgpraveenit says window opens when download finished11:44
tgpraveendoes it mean it won't give noitification when say I am using firefox at that moment11:44
tgpraveenand only open transmission window11:45
tgpraveeninstead. is it like the update-manager window opening in background?11:45
tgpraveenif so this behaviour was heavily criticized earlier.11:45
MacSlowtgpraveen, transmission is a BitTorrent client afaik11:51
MacSlowtgpraveen, firefox is using its own notification system11:51
tgpraveenMacSlow: yes it is 11:51
tgpraveenso .... I don't follow what you are trying to say?11:52
tgpraveenMacSlow: from the page that I linked above11:52
tgpraveenWhen a download finishes, a notification bubble appeared with an “Open Folder” button, and an “Open File” button if only one file was downloaded. Transmission should instead follow the same approach as for Firefox. That is, a notification bubble should not appear, the main window should open unfocused (if it is not open already), the completed download should be selected in the list, and the window should request attention. Transmission 1.51 i11:52
tgpraveenpart that worries me11:52
tgpraveena notification bubble should not appear, the main window should open unfocused11:53
tgpraveenwhy not let it be like jaunty ie notify-osd bubble11:53
tgpraveencomes and the window does NOT open by itself11:53
MacSlowtgpraveen, well as long as you don't put text like "Click here to open download-directory" and an action it it, it should be ok I think :)11:54
MacSlowbut the suggestion on the wiki page there also makes sense to me11:55
tgpraveenMacSlow: agreed on 1st comment11:56
tgpraveenbut for the wiki page11:56
tgpraveensuggestion wouldn't it be just like the update-manager situation that it suddenly pops up without user telling it to do so and hence11:57
tgpraveencasuing a lot of annoyance to users11:57
MacSlowtgpraveen, hm... no mpt, no mat, no djsiegel11:59
MacSlowtgpraveen, these folks from the Design-team would be the best contacts to discuss your issue12:00
MacSlowtgpraveen, for this particular case I'm not all all that sensitve to either of the possible solutions12:01
tgpraveenMacSlow: ok.thx12:06
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mac_vDanRabbit1: inconsistent color?16:13
DanRabbit1Yea, some were 40% opacity, some 60%, some 72%16:13
DanRabbit1different hex values too16:13
mac_vDanRabbit1: that was purposeful ;p 16:14
mac_v, the idle was both 72 , recieve transmit 6016:14
mac_vdisconnected was lower at 4016:14
DanRabbit1yea, they should all be the same16:15
mac_voh ok ;)16:15
DanRabbit1it's cool16:15
DanRabbit1I can see the logic behind it :D16:15
DanRabbit1but in practice, it's interpretted as inconsistency16:15
mac_v;p16:15
mac_vDanRabbit1: right now, i'm figuring out a way to use the wireless connection animation... and make it use 11 icons  , if it works out i'll show it to you 16:17
DanRabbit1it's already 11 icons isn't it?16:18
mac_vhmm... i was trying to make one using the radar idea i had , if it doesnt work out well, atleast for personal use ;p16:19
DanRabbit1oh I see16:22
DanRabbit1g2g to school now :D16:28
DanRabbit1bye16:28
david-MDC1 mac_v DBO mrooney|w lamalex ivanka, paper cutting session for UDW in #ubuntu-classroom (freenode) in 15 minutes.16:46
david-mac_v, if you'd like to talk about bug triage, please join16:51
david-MDC1 if you'd like to talk about fixing paper cuts, please do16:51
david-mrooney|w, you live in both worlds16:52
david-tedg: ping, you too16:52
tedgdavid-: I think that ara is in 7 min...  and then you're in 1 h 7 m.16:53
david-tedg, oh, really?16:53
aradavid-, yes16:53
david-oh no16:54
david-ok :)16:54
david-well, go ara!16:54
tedgNot saying ofcourse that everyone david- pinged shouldn't go to ara's talk.  Mago is important too, but it my be a touch surprising for some folks expecting paper cuts :)16:55
aratedg, :D16:55
david-sorry for my weird nick16:56
david-trying a new IRC client16:56
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