[02:15] <bratsche> mccann: I think kwwii is the person to ask about the wallpaper contest.  I don't think he hangs out in here though, so I'll try to remember to ask him about it tomorrow.
[02:16] <bratsche> (I obviously don't pay attention to this channel either, since you asked that like 4 hours ago)
[02:16] <bratsche> :)
[11:28] <SiDi_> MacSlow: i have a question regarding atk support in notifyosd
[11:29] <SiDi_> i wanna throw a volume confirmation notification, it allows me to set a title but not a body
[11:29] <SiDi_> if i set a body (for a11y compatibility), the bubbles wont appear
[11:31] <MacSlow> SiDi_, that's due to it being a icon-value layout
[11:31] <SiDi_> oh, yeah..
[11:32] <SiDi_> the spec says developers should use the body to describe the confirmation bubble for a11y purposes. I suppose the simple fix would be to tell them to use the title instead :]
[11:32] <MacSlow> SiDi_, I need this "condition" to be able to identify the layout-case
[11:32] <MacSlow> SiDi_, yes
[11:32] <MacSlow> see notify-osd/examples/icon-value.py
[11:33] <MacSlow> SiDi_, pushNotification()
[11:33] <SiDi_> yup, noticed
[11:33] <SiDi_> shall i update the spec and say to use the title then ?
[11:34] <MacSlow> SiDi_, no I'll see that with mpt
[11:34] <MacSlow> SiDi_, btw... do you mean the spec or the dev-guidelines?
[11:35] <SiDi_> wiki.u.c/NotifyOsd
[11:35] <SiDi_>  i think :P
[11:35] <SiDi_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Volume changes
[11:36] <MacSlow> yeah.. just found it myself
[11:44] <tgpraveen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD/PreviousCompatibilityFixes
[11:44] <tgpraveen> here for transmission-gtk
[11:44] <tgpraveen> it says window opens when download finished
[11:44] <tgpraveen> does it mean it won't give noitification when say I am using firefox at that moment
[11:45] <tgpraveen> and only open transmission window
[11:45] <tgpraveen> instead. is it like the update-manager window opening in background?
[11:45] <tgpraveen> if so this behaviour was heavily criticized earlier.
[11:51] <MacSlow> tgpraveen, transmission is a BitTorrent client afaik
[11:51] <MacSlow> tgpraveen, firefox is using its own notification system
[11:51] <tgpraveen> MacSlow: yes it is 
[11:52] <tgpraveen> so .... I don't follow what you are trying to say?
[11:52] <tgpraveen> MacSlow: from the page that I linked above
[11:52] <tgpraveen> When a download finishes, a notification bubble appeared with an “Open Folder” button, and an “Open File” button if only one file was downloaded. Transmission should instead follow the same approach as for Firefox. That is, a notification bubble should not appear, the main window should open unfocused (if it is not open already), the completed download should be selected in the list, and the window should request attention. Transmission 1.51 i
[11:52] <tgpraveen> part that worries me
[11:53] <tgpraveen> a notification bubble should not appear, the main window should open unfocused
[11:53] <tgpraveen> why not let it be like jaunty ie notify-osd bubble
[11:53] <tgpraveen> comes and the window does NOT open by itself
[11:54] <MacSlow> tgpraveen, well as long as you don't put text like "Click here to open download-directory" and an action it it, it should be ok I think :)
[11:55] <MacSlow> but the suggestion on the wiki page there also makes sense to me
[11:56] <tgpraveen> MacSlow: agreed on 1st comment
[11:56] <tgpraveen> but for the wiki page
[11:57] <tgpraveen> suggestion wouldn't it be just like the update-manager situation that it suddenly pops up without user telling it to do so and hence
[11:57] <tgpraveen> casuing a lot of annoyance to users
[11:59] <MacSlow> tgpraveen, hm... no mpt, no mat, no djsiegel
[12:00] <MacSlow> tgpraveen, these folks from the Design-team would be the best contacts to discuss your issue
[12:01] <MacSlow> tgpraveen, for this particular case I'm not all all that sensitve to either of the possible solutions
[12:06] <tgpraveen> MacSlow: ok.thx
[12:49]  * MacSlow -> lunch
[16:13] <mac_v> DanRabbit1: inconsistent color?
[16:13] <DanRabbit1> Yea, some were 40% opacity, some 60%, some 72%
[16:13] <DanRabbit1> different hex values too
[16:14] <mac_v> DanRabbit1: that was purposeful ;p 
[16:14] <mac_v> , the idle was both 72 , recieve transmit 60
[16:14] <mac_v> disconnected was lower at 40
[16:15] <DanRabbit1> yea, they should all be the same
[16:15] <mac_v> oh ok ;)
[16:15] <DanRabbit1> it's cool
[16:15] <DanRabbit1> I can see the logic behind it :D
[16:15] <DanRabbit1> but in practice, it's interpretted as inconsistency
[16:15] <mac_v> ;p
[16:17] <mac_v> DanRabbit1: right now, i'm figuring out a way to use the wireless connection animation... and make it use 11 icons  , if it works out i'll show it to you 
[16:18] <DanRabbit1> it's already 11 icons isn't it?
[16:19] <mac_v> hmm... i was trying to make one using the radar idea i had , if it doesnt work out well, atleast for personal use ;p
[16:22] <DanRabbit1> oh I see
[16:28] <DanRabbit1> g2g to school now :D
[16:28] <DanRabbit1> bye
[16:46] <david-> MDC1 mac_v DBO mrooney|w lamalex ivanka, paper cutting session for UDW in #ubuntu-classroom (freenode) in 15 minutes.
[16:51] <david-> mac_v, if you'd like to talk about bug triage, please join
[16:51] <david-> MDC1 if you'd like to talk about fixing paper cuts, please do
[16:52] <david-> mrooney|w, you live in both worlds
[16:52] <david-> tedg: ping, you too
[16:53] <tedg> david-: I think that ara is in 7 min...  and then you're in 1 h 7 m.
[16:53] <david-> tedg, oh, really?
[16:53] <ara> david-, yes
[16:54] <david-> oh no
[16:54] <david-> ok :)
[16:54] <david-> well, go ara!
[16:55] <tedg> Not saying ofcourse that everyone david- pinged shouldn't go to ara's talk.  Mago is important too, but it my be a touch surprising for some folks expecting paper cuts :)
[16:55] <ara> tedg, :D
[16:56] <david-> sorry for my weird nick
[16:56] <david-> trying a new IRC client