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cody-somervillelaunchpad seems to be experiencing difficulty :/00:21
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jkakarDear Launchpad, please read my mind and only send me mail I care about.00:36
exarkunco-signed exarkun00:36
exarkunalso, would it to really hard to bundle up file-attached messages like normal comments are bundled up?00:37
jmlexarkun, I don't know. My guess is "no, it wouldn't be really hard"00:38
wgrantHow are normal comments bundled up?00:38
jmljkakar, our initial mind-reading trials were a disaster.00:38
jmlwgrant, I don't know. :)00:39
wgrantI mean, what effect does it achieve?00:39
jmlI believe there's some logic in some of the event handlers for bugs.00:39
wgrantIn particular, what effect does it give that attachments do not have?00:39
mkanatgmb: Everything going OK now?01:14
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EagleScreenis launchpad down right now?03:08
spmnope03:09
spmEagleScreen: can you be more specific - what url are you having issues with?03:10
EagleScreeni try to file a bug report against Ubuntu03:10
EagleScreenthis URL https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug03:12
EagleScreeni type the bug description and i go ahead and i obtain this.. wait03:12
EagleScreenthis http://imagebin.ca/view/eoTq7Zfb.html03:13
spmEagleScreen: try using edge as a "might work better" https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug03:14
EagleScreenjust the same error03:19
spmdare I ask what bug description?03:19
spivEagleScreen: those timeouts are usually caused by the search for duplicates; if you enter a shorter summary into that form it may avoid the timeout.03:20
spivEagleScreen: you can then put the full summary in again on the next screen.03:20
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glendo branches expire? i'm sure i had drizzle branch here https://code.launchpad.net/~glen66606:49
beuno-on-vacatioglen, they don't06:51
mwhudsonglen: no, but they hide from listings when they're merged06:51
glenah. thanks06:52
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Laibschwhy does the PPA try to build for lpia architecture when the control file looks like http://paste.debian.net/45594/ ?11:28
bigjoolsLaibsch: "all" will build for all the arches that PPAs support11:29
LaibschIMHO that's a bug, then11:29
LaibschIt should build for all arches for "any"11:30
Laibschall is arch-independent11:30
Laibschbigjools: Are you sure about what you said?  Or is it more of a hunch?11:30
bigjoolsthen set it to "any"!11:31
Laibschbigjools: Do you even know the difference between any and all?11:31
bigjoolsany is arch-indep11:31
bigjoolsall means all11:31
Laibschin the debian control file context11:31
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Laibschhm, was it me who got it backwards, then?11:32
geserbigjools-afk: are you sure? "any" is rebuild on every arch, "all" is arch-indep11:32
Laibschyeah, I just checked myself11:33
LaibschAnd bigjools-afk got it backwards11:33
Laibschhttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Architecture11:33
Laibsch* all, which indicates an architecture-independent package.11:35
Laibsch* any, which indicates a package available for building on any architecture.11:35
Laibschgeser: could it be that LP is coded with bigjools-afk's understanding of any and all?  IOW, did I hit a bug or am I doing something wrong?11:39
geseryou could dig in the LP code to look it up11:40
LaibschI doubt that ;-)11:42
Laibschlook <> understand11:42
james_wLaibsch: and the build fails with "not for this arch"?11:44
p_mashoanyone can help a newbie with cvs imports ?11:45
LaibschNot sure what it failed with, I'd have to look it up11:45
Laibschjames_w: Fact is that it failed.  And I made a new upload, stripping lpia from the arch lines in control to make sure it wasn't going to build for that arch.11:45
gesercan you link your PPA please?11:46
* Laibsch likes the PPA green rather than red, purely asthetics11:46
Laibschsorry, sure11:46
Laibschhttps://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive11:46
Laibschopenoffice package11:47
Laibschacroread may be the same11:47
Laibschyes, acroread builds for lpia which I think it shouldn't11:48
james_wLaibsch: do you have permission to distribute acroread?11:48
james_wopenoffice .dsc has "Architecture: any"11:49
james_wso why shouldn't it start the build?11:49
Laibschjames_w: The way I read debian/copyright, the package is free to redistribute.  If it isn't, then the place I got it from is in violation, too :-P11:53
wgrantIt isn't.11:53
wgrantIt's not redistributable.11:53
LaibschOK, I'll check that and remove it if necessary11:53
wgrantUnless it's very old.11:53
Laibschthe technicalities remain.  acroread should not have built for lpia11:54
james_w"+-You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software, including11:54
james_w+copies for commercial distribution, as long as each copy that you make and11:54
james_w+distribute contains this Agreement, the Acrobat Reader installer, and the same11:54
james_w+copyright and other proprietary notices pertaining to this Software that appear11:54
james_w+in the Software."11:54
wgrantLaibsch: Why not?11:54
james_wso unless that is out of date it appears to be possible to redistribute the binaries11:54
wgrantjames_w: Where'd you find that?11:55
james_wLaibsch: you seem to misunderstand how the system works11:55
mtayloryikes. +linkblueprint is now not very useful on edge11:55
james_wwgrant: debian/copyright11:55
wgrantjames_w: Ha ha. We all know how up-to-date that often is...11:55
james_w+ELECTRONIC END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT11:55
james_w+FOR ADOBE ACROBAT READER11:55
* wgrant hunts.11:56
Laibschjames_w: where's my misunderstanding.  If there is an "any"-line in openoffice, that's a different story, then.  But acroread does not contain such a thing.11:57
LaibschMy understanding of the control file is, the PPA should not try to build it for lpia.11:57
james_wit does11:57
james_wyou are wrong11:58
Laibschit does?11:58
Laibschcontain an "any" line?11:58
Laibschgrep tells me differently11:58
james_wyes, the system could be improved, but it looks to me as though LP is doing exactly what it should11:58
wgrantSee bug #4378011:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 43780 in acroread "Acroread: Redistribution may not be allowed" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4378011:58
wgrantThat has some nice bits of the license.11:58
james_wLaibsch: you are looking in the wrong place11:58
Laibschwhere's the right place11:58
Laibsch?11:58
james_wLaibsch: look in the .dsc as I indicated earlier11:58
wgrantSo, Launchpad does not respect a subset of architectures if they are listed in the control file.11:59
Laibschjames_w: your earlier comment was about OOo11:59
wgrantIt will respect 'all', but 'i386 amd64 foo64' is treated just like 'any'.11:59
james_wit should not start the actual build11:59
Laibschjames_w: that's not what I'm talking about11:59
james_wbut dispatching it is well within its rights11:59
wgrantRight.11:59
wgrantsbuild will say no.11:59
LaibschI'm confused now12:00
LaibschHow do I prevent the PPA from building lpia, then?12:00
james_wLaibsch: and you couldn't apply a mental sed of s/OOo/acroread/ and check that too?12:00
wgrantYou cannot stop it from trying.12:00
james_wP-a-s applies to PPAs too?12:01
wgrantThe way it's stopped in the primary archive is Packages-architecture-specific.12:01
Laibschjames_w: what's a mental sd?12:01
Laibschsed12:01
wgrantBut P-a-s explicitly doesn't apply to PPAs.12:01
wgrantThat's quite deliberate.12:01
james_wLaibsch: I mean I told you why it was happening for OOo, it's not too much of stretch to see if the same explanation applies to acrororead12:01
Laibschjames_w: Again: no "any" line in there, OK?12:02
LaibschIt's nice pointing back to your earlier comment12:02
james_wLaibsch: my eyes tell me different12:02
wgrantArchitecture: any12:03
james_w"https://edge.launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/ppa/+files/acroread_9.1.3-0.2~rolf1.dsc -> Architecture: any"12:03
wgrantStraight from the acroread dsc.12:03
Laibschjames_w: then you're looking at the wrong thing12:03
james_w???12:03
Laibschcheck the pastebinit link if you don't believe me12:03
james_wLaibsch: no, you are looking at the wrong thing12:03
wgrantI believe the files that Launchpad has are the files that Launchpad has.12:03
wgrantNot the pastebin.12:03
james_wyou have a too-simplistic view of how this works12:03
james_wwhile your view is idealised, the real system doesn't work how you expect for various reasons12:03
geserLaibsch: the .dsc file contains Arch: any while your debian/control only Arch: i386 amd for some packages12:07
geserthe build queue uses the .dsc file (if I'm correct)12:07
wgrantgeser: You are correct.12:09
Laibschjames_w: I think an easier expression than "your view is idealised" or what not is just plain and simple "no matter what you do the PPA will build for all three arches"12:13
LaibschI think it would be nice if that changed12:13
james_wI can't find a license agreement in either the .deb or .tar.bz2 on ftp.adobe.com, and the license stated in debian/copyright probably makes the .deb un-redistributable, as the bug wgrant pointed to indicates12:14
james_wso I think you should not have it in your PPA12:14
wgrantjames_w: The binaries and the source, I suspect.12:14
james_wwgrant: sorry?12:15
wgrantjames_w: You said just the .deb. I presume you mean the source package as well.12:15
james_wLaibsch: I'm not sure what happens if you upload a .dsc with "Architecture: i386 amd64"12:15
james_wbut yes, I agree12:15
james_wwgrant: ah, true12:15
Laibschjames_w: well, I may be able to hand-tweak things and eventually get a result.  But this is just the dsc that debuild produced from the information in the debian dir.  It may be that debuild/dpkg-buildpackage is wrong to put "any".  Then again, it may not be.  I'm too lazy now to find out ;-)12:19
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hexa-hi13:15
hexa-is there a way i can stop crawlers to index my name on launchpad?13:15
hexa-that is really something i don't like to happen13:16
henninge_henninge: don't use your real name13:16
henninge_hexa-: ^13:16
henninge_hexa-: it's just the name, though.13:16
hexa-its just a privacy issue with me13:17
henninge_hexa-: E-Mail addersses are not available to anonymous users which spiders are.13:17
hexa-yeah well i blocked email adresses anyhow13:17
henninge_hexa-: Do you consider your name to be private information?13:17
hexa-yes, I do13:17
hexa-it shows for example my affiliations13:18
henninge_Your *real* name does?13:18
henninge_Or which name are we talking about?13:18
hexa-yes13:18
hexa-realname13:18
henninge_Bernd das Brot? ;-)13:18
hexa-i changed my display name now, though, this should do the trick, thanks so far :)13:18
hexa-no :P13:18
henninge_what's the affiliation ?13:18
hexa-well, someone beeing related to s.th.13:19
henninge_hexa-: kein Problem ...13:19
henninge_oh, your family reations13:19
hexa-;)13:19
hexa-einfach verbindungen13:19
hexa-jemand sucht meinen namen bei google und weiss wo ich rumhänge, was ich tue usw13:19
hexa-das muss einfach nicht sein13:19
henninge_Da gibt es nur eins: nicht den wirklichen Namen benutzen.13:20
hexa-ja, habe ich jetzt getan :)13:20
henninge_Don't be surprised, this is still an English language channel! ;-)13:21
henninge_everybody!13:21
hexa-:P13:21
hexa-just took the opportunity :13:21
henninge_np, this was meant for everybody else but I forgot the "everybody" in the sentence ...13:23
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jamone1313I have a clean Ubuntu install, I've followed the guide exactly and in the "make run" stage I get "psycopg2.OperationalError: FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user "launchpad_main""14:31
jamone1313after that it quits, I've tried doing a "make clean.... make run" but same deal14:31
MTeckjamone1313: #launchpad-dev14:33
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rickspencer3hi guys15:56
rickspencer3I'm getting an error on one of my apps that uses python-launchpadlib15:57
rickspencer3I'm betting that you all know what exactly is going on, but I can't find a reference to it :(15:57
* rickspencer3 is let down by Google15:57
gary_posterrickspencer3: at least one of us might know exactly what is going on. :-) what's up.15:57
rickspencer3  File "/home/rick/bug-zapper/python/LaunchpadUtils.py", line 22, in <module>15:57
rickspencer3    from launchpadlib._utils.uri import URI15:57
rickspencer3ImportError: No module named _utils.uri15:57
rickspencer3looks like modules got changes around or something, and I'm not smart enough to figure it out :)15:57
gary_posterrickspencer3: see lazr.uri15:58
gary_posterrickspencer3: (getting link for you; it is packaged for karmic)15:58
rickspencer3gary_poster, thanks15:59
rickspencer3it looks like it's installed15:59
rickspencer3i A python-lazr-restfulclient                                           - client for lazr.restful-based web services15:59
rickspencer3i A python-lazr-uri                                                     - library for parsing, manipulating, and generating URIs15:59
gary_posterrickspencer3: oh ok awesome.15:59
gary_posteryeah that's the one15:59
gary_posterlazr.uri.URI might work...15:59
rickspencer3so this functionality was removed from launchpad?15:59
rickspencer3and I just need to port the code to lazr?16:00
rickspencer3that seems within my skills and abilities ;)16:00
rickspencer3gary_poster, wait16:01
gary_posterrickspencer3: well, removed from launchpad to be usable separately.  launchpad still uses it, but as a distribution.  But yeah, just use the lazr version :-) .  We've not taken the time to do the super simple job to make this pretty, but here are some docs: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lazr.uri/1.0.216:01
rickspencer3thanks gary_poster16:01
rickspencer3your help is much appreciated16:02
gary_posternp!16:02
gary_posterrickspencer3: quickly looks very cool btw16:02
rickspencer3thanks gary_poster16:03
rickspencer3it's fun to work on16:03
rickspencer3being able to easily use my PPA is so great16:04
rickspencer3I never quite got a project to build in my PPA before I started using quickly16:04
rickspencer3so I'm hopeful that we'll see a few more apps on Launchpad16:05
gary_posterawesome. :-)16:05
gary_posterI like the deb integration stuff, among the other cool bits, yeah16:05
rickspencer3didrocks is truly a rock star :)16:05
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jkakarI'm trying 'bzr branch lp:~sidnei/lazr-js/jstestdriver-testing' (private branch for some reason) and getting: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/lazr-js/toolchain-1.6/".17:44
jkakarI guess toolchain-1.6 was the stacking-on branch and that it's now gone.  Anyway, how do I get the branch I want?17:44
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gary-lunchjkakar: good question.  abentley?18:17
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abentleyjkakar, gary_poster: Confirmed, that's the stacked-on branch.  If there is another branch with all the revisions from bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/lazr-js/toolchain-1.6/ you can change the stacked on location to that.18:20
abentleyjkakar: And then you can branch it.18:21
gary_posterThank you abentley. jkakar: I don't know what the desired stacked-on branch is.  Would you like me to guess at some people for answering that question, or do you know?18:21
jkakarabentley: Okay.  I have no idea what toolchain-1.6 is or was... hrm.  If I can't sort that out is the branch effectively unusable?18:21
jkakargary_poster: Well, I'll chat up sidnei about it since it's his branch.  He'll probably know what he based it on.18:22
gary_posterjkakar: +1 :-)18:22
abentleyjkakar: Possibly, but you can always try stacking on trunk.  Maybe the branch was merged into trunk.18:22
jkakargary_poster, abentley: Thanks!18:23
gary_posternp :-)18:23
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mac_v hi... a few ayatana bugs have been lost in a black hole :( , this was due to recent naming change of ayatana > the ayatana project... bugs which existed in ayatana alone are now inaccessible , any way we could recover them? , the bugs were invalidated to facilitate the project to be closed , example of error > error ID  OOPS-1342F173618:49
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1342F173618:49
gary_postermac_v: hm, I'm afraid I have no clue, but I'll ask around.  deryck, do you have any ideas?18:50
mac_vi tried to access some bugs using the .staging. site , and tried to just change the project from ayatana to papercuts >it gives this error > Not Found Object: , name: u'dead-ayatana'18:52
gary_posterintellectronica: ayt?18:54
deryckgary_poster, sorry phone18:54
* deryck looks at scrollback18:54
gary_posterderyck: np, thanks18:54
gary_postermac_v: I think our best hope is waiting for deryck.  Sorry I can't help you more.18:55
mac_vgary_poster: thanks :) , no probs i'll wait18:56
deryckgary_poster, mac_v -- yes, just looking at the oops.18:56
gary_postercool :-)18:56
deryckI think I need more context, let me ping some others, and will reply back shortly.18:56
mac_v the thing is , bugs which existed in ayatana alone , are now *not* accessible , since it points to DEAD-ayatana ,  since the "ayatana" was closed and started again as the "The Ayatana project"18:58
mac_vexample >bug #38782818:58
mac_vbug #38782818:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387828 in dead-ayatana "ALT+TAB with compiz shows really ugly icons." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38782818:58
mac_vthis happens to bugs reported first in ayatana [actually changed to ayatana from hundred papercuts where it was first reported]19:01
deryckmac_v, ah, I think I'm understanding now.  So you need to move all the invalid ayatana bug tasks to papercuts?  or just a select few?19:01
mac_vderyck: yup, moving all the invalid ayatana back to papercuts will do19:02
mac_vderyck: there were just 17 bugs , which were invalidated , i some how managed to change this > bug #38782819:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387828 in dead-ayatana "ALT+TAB with compiz shows really ugly icons." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38782819:03
mac_voops wrong bug!19:03
mac_vhttps://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/38782819:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387828 in dead-ayatana "ALT+TAB with compiz shows really ugly icons." [Undecided,Invalid]19:04
mac_vhuh! ok the right one ;p19:04
mac_vhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/dead-ayatana/+bug/38782819:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387828 in dead-ayatana "ALT+TAB with compiz shows really ugly icons." [Undecided,Invalid]19:06
mac_vah! sorry!19:07
mac_vi keep pasting the same bug!19:07
mac_vhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/38757319:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387573 in gnome-panel "Drop-down calendar does not close unless you click on it" [Low,Confirmed]19:07
deryckmac_v, I just reassigned one myself no problem.19:08
deryckmac_v, bug 38782819:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387828 in dead-ayatana "ALT+TAB with compiz shows really ugly icons." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38782819:08
deryckmmmm, I thought I did.19:08
mac_vderyck: hehe , the bug in the browser shows correct , ubottu is wrong19:09
deryckmac_v, is what I just did the end result you want?19:09
mac_vyes19:09
mac_vbug 38782819:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387828 in dead-ayatana "ALT+TAB with compiz shows really ugly icons." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38782819:10
mac_vhmm!19:10
deryckmac_v, I clicked the edit icon to change it.  Let me try another via the form that is revealed.19:10
mac_vderyck: couldnt the ubottu be corrected too? it would be easier to discuss19:10
mac_vah i tried that earlier  but for me it gives this error > Not Found Object: , name: u'dead-ayatana'19:11
deryckmac_v, not sure.  I don't really know anything about ubottu.19:11
mac_vderyck: ok, no probs , do you want the list of the bugs which need this change? or do you have them19:12
intellectronicaderyck, mac_v: i think it may be hidden depending on permissions19:14
deryckmac_v, I don't have them.19:14
mac_vderyck: ok ,just 16 more :)  i'll paste them one by one here19:15
deryckmac_v, can you change one yourself via the edit icon.  or that is what fails for you?19:15
mac_vderyck: no... it just gives me oopses! :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/dead-ayatana/+bug/38757319:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387573 in gnome-panel "Drop-down calendar does not close unless you click on it" [Low,Confirmed]19:15
mac_verror ID  OOPS-1342D2057 , was for the above link ^19:16
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1342D205719:16
deryckmac_v, ok, I can do them.  Can you send me an email with the 16 bugs left?19:16
mac_vintellectronica: i think you are correct , but this whole name change has a few users really pissed19:16
mac_vemail id?19:17
mac_vderyck: ^19:17
deryckmac_v, deryck dot hodge @ the company I work for working on launchpad dot com :)19:17
mac_v;p19:18
intellectronicamac_v: can you see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/dead-ayatana/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed&field.status=Fix+Released&field.status=Invalid&field.status=Won%27t+Fix&field.omit_dupes.used=19:18
intellectronicaand if yes, are these the 16 bugs you need moving?19:18
encbladexphow can i remove some SVN Import from Launchpad?19:18
mac_vintellectronica: i get 404  , page not found19:18
deryckah, so that's the issue then.  it's permission, no? intellectronica19:19
intellectronicamac_v, deryck: right, so it is a permissions thing19:19
deryckright19:19
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mac_vderyck: lmao "the company I work for working on launchpad dot com "19:19
intellectronicaand since the list shows exactly 16 bugs, my guess is these are the 16 bugs you need moved :)19:19
deryckintellectronica, mac_v -- yeah, I can do it from that list. no email needed19:19
mac_vderyck: could you move them? or do i have to mail you?19:19
deryckmac_v, I can.19:20
mac_vhehe , ok19:20
intellectronicaderyck: should be very easy to do with launchpadlib19:20
mac_vderyck: \o/ thanks , pls ping me when it done :) it needs to be assigned19:20
deryckintellectronica, yeah, that's what I was going to use.19:21
mac_vhow were you guys able to remove a project? for example i had used "also affects" for the alt_tab compiz bug , so there were 3 projects ayatana,papercuts,compiz , but now it have only 2... is it permissions again? ;p19:24
mac_v*only has19:25
kikomac_v, I think it's because ayatana went away19:26
mac_vkiko: deryck did something now ;)19:26
mac_vkiko: ayatana issue is the reason why i cant access it19:27
kikooh?19:27
mac_vkiko: :( , this is a long story , pls scroll back :( sorry19:28
kikoderyck, what's the summary of the problem? :)19:30
deryckkiko, so mac_v wants to move the invalid dead-ayatana bugs to hundredpapercuts.  mac_v doesn't have permission to see the dead project so can't.19:32
deryckkiko, I was working up a script to do so.19:32
kikoderyck, well.. I think that most of the ayatana bugs already had hundredpapercuts tasks19:35
kikoso I doubt that will work19:35
kikowhat you could do is just kill those bugtasks19:35
mac_vkiko: no , the bugs were actually mostly reassigned from papercuts to ayatana  , maybe one had papercuts too19:36
deryckkiko, yeah, a quick glance says most of them don't have paper cuts tasks.19:38
kikoderyck, I can make the project come back to life19:40
mac_vkiko: someone actually doesnt want that ;) , they didnt like just "ayatana"19:41
mac_vderyck: > is the one with both https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388121 , so you can just remove ayatana19:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 388121 in hundredpapercuts "Programs should exit gracefully on session end" [Undecided,Invalid]19:43
mac_vthis is*19:43
kikoI was the one that actually disabled that project19:47
kikoso I could temporarily reenable it19:47
mac_vkiko: the "dead-" prefix is due to the project being closed , right?19:48
kikoI added it19:48
mac_voh19:48
deryckmac_v, kiko -- I'm just moving them by hand; it's easier to see which don't have hundredpapercuts and which aren't dups, and just use the ajax speed.19:58
mac_vthanks :)19:59
deryckmac_v, done.  There are some dead-ayatana tasks left where there was already a papercuts task, but you can find them all assigned to papercuts now.20:01
* mac_v checking 20:04
mac_vkiko: could you remove the "Ayatana" project , from these bugs > Bug #388121 , Bug #391533 , Bug #393599 , Bug #38783020:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 388121 in hundredpapercuts "Programs should exit gracefully on session end" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38812120:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391533 in hundredpapercuts "Application windows do not restore to last known position." [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39153320:37
mac_vpls":)20:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 393599 in hundredpapercuts "Can't easily set partitions to automount on logon" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39359920:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387830 in hundredpapercuts "Gnome system menu should be better organized" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38783020:37
kikomac_v, I can't but deryck can probably delete it20:37
kikovia a DB query20:37
mac_vderyck seems offline :(20:37
mac_vintellectronica: could you do that ?^20:38
kikomac_v, file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad20:40
kikothe OSAs know how to do this20:40
* mac_v hm... so much confusion over these permissions :(20:41
kikomac_v, I still don't understand what problem you are running into20:41
mac_vkiko: just a sec , let me concise it :)20:41
kikois the problem that you can't see those bugs?20:44
kikoI can temporarily reenable it20:44
mac_vthat has been solved20:44
kikoso what's the catch?20:45
mac_vkiko: several bugs were reported in papercuts first , they seemed good bugs , but too big to be papercuts , so the papercut task was changed to ayatana, now ayatana is closed , since the first reported task is the url that firefox opens the bug with , now they were not accessible20:45
mac_vkiko: now that has been fixed by deryck20:45
kikogotcha20:46
mac_vkiko: but a few of the bugs still have the name "Ayatana" , only those 4 , so they want it clean ;)20:46
mac_vso that ayatana is not mentioned20:46
kikowe'd need to move them to other products20:47
kikobut which ones?20:47
mac_vkiko: we can change them to null ;) , but i was wondering why not just remove the task20:47
mac_voh other tasks , thats a good idea :)20:48
mac_vkiko: could you change those 4 to "Ubuntu" ?20:49
kikowe can't20:49
kikoI wish we could20:49
kikobut we can't20:49
mac_vhmm :(20:49
kikocan we affect another upstream?20:49
mac_vi dont think there is any upstream equivalent , it would be just a dead invalid it that too20:50
mac_vkiko: any chance intellectronica / deryck or anyone else with the permissions might come back in a couple of hrs... i dont mind waiting...21:05
mac_v?21:05
discHeadHey all, this may be a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway.  I create a branch, propose it for a merge, and the maintainer merges it.  If I want to do more work in the same vein, should I not touch that branch again and make a new one?  Or is it safe to make new changes on that branch and make additional merge proposals, without things getting messy in Launchpad?21:13
thumperyes you can do this21:14
thumperthere is a limit of one active proposal per branch21:14
thumperbut a merged one isn't considered active21:14
discHeadOh, okay.  So after it's been accepted and merged, then I do more work on it and propose another merge, it shows up the same as would a new branch with a merge proposal.21:15
mac_vthumper: hi... do you have permissions to remove a project from a bug?21:16
mac_vor who are the members i need to wait for to do that?21:16
thumperdiscHead: yes21:19
thumpermac_v: I don't think a project can be removed from a bug once added :(21:19
encbladexpcan anybody remove https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pyneighborhood/trunk and https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pyneighborhood/0.4 from code.launchpad.net? thx21:19
thumperencbladexp: perhaps I could21:19
* thumper looks21:19
encbladexp:-D21:19
* encbladexp is migrating some Things from "Good old SVN" to Bazaar and Mercurial21:20
discHeadThanks, thumper, that's been bugging me, so I appreciate the help21:20
thumperencbladexp: the trunk branch is the development focus, so I can't remove that on21:20
thumperdiscHead: np21:21
thumperencbladexp: if you choose a different branch as trunk, I can delete the old import21:21
encbladexphttps://code.launchpad.net/~pyneigborhood/pyneighborhood/devel this is the new "Development Focus"21:21
thumperencbladexp: but is isn't linked to the series21:21
encbladexpmom, i will do that...21:22
encbladexpthumper, done https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pyneighborhood/trunk can now removed21:25
thumperencbladexp: done21:39
encbladexpthx21:41
encbladexphmm, how can i branch Revision (e.g.) 321 vom the devel branch to the 0.5 branch using bzr?21:41
kikomac_v, there's no permissions issue. you need to ask a question; an OSA needs to process it.21:44
mac_voh...21:45
zobi1I requested a download of translation files about an hour ago. I haven't received any emails yet. Is this a manual process? How long should I expect to wait?21:46
kikozobi1, I think the translation import queue is kinda stacked this week due to a bug which we fixed earlier21:47
kikodanilos has the details but I think he's out already21:47
mac_vkiko: so how soon can we expect the question to be answered? [i know stupid question] , if it will take longer than 1-2 days , would trying to catch deryck tomorrow be quicker?21:49
zobi1kiko: can I email danilos or is there someone who could give me an estimate? Is it in the hours or days range?21:50
kikomac_v, no, deryck can't do this. only an OSA can.21:50
mac_voh :(21:50
kikozobi1, should be in the hours range21:50
kikoif we're lucky21:50
* mac_v wonders who these elusive OSA are ;p21:50
* mac_v filing question21:51
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andrewkkWhat is https://launchpad.net/~junkmongers and why is it subscribed to a bug in my project?23:32
wgrantandrewkk: The bug probably has a task for the Obsolete Junk project.23:40
andrewkkwgrant: Ah-ha, I see. Thanks.23:42

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