| trothigar | bdmurray, so even if the bug status is new I should leave it? | 00:00 |
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| bdmurray | well, I changed it to Triaged. In Progress or Triaged would be fine. | 00:01 |
| hggdh | dtchen, ping | 02:55 |
| dtchen | hggdh: pong | 02:57 |
| hggdh | hi dtchen, two questions, (1) I have been trying to report a PA bug (high CPU utilisation), but ubuntu-bug/apport refused to deal with it | 02:58 |
| hggdh | (2) there are some bugs, seemingly similar, on PA on malloc/free issues; should I leave them open/new, or can I dup them to the oldest? | 02:58 |
| hggdh | oh, and thank you for the class | 02:59 |
| dtchen | hggdh: they should all be fixed with the snapshot that's currently building in the ppa | 03:00 |
| dtchen | hggdh: however, i'm not at a dev machine, so i can't verify whether the one malloc issue i've been able to trigger is fixed | 03:00 |
| dtchen | hggdh: so, please leave them open; i have them all tagged locally | 03:01 |
| hggdh | will do, thanks | 03:01 |
| dtchen | hggdh: and, np | 03:01 |
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| micahg1 | ugh, I really wish there was a way to remove comments sometimes | 04:12 |
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| hggdh | so do I, so do I... | 04:13 |
| micahg | I just e-mailed a bug a comment I meant for a triager | 04:21 |
| micahg | :( | 04:21 |
| hggdh | heh | 04:21 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:46 |
| thekorn | good morning bugsquad | 08:05 |
| blackest_knight | hi i've got a weird audio issue i get audio out from the audio in jack and nothing from audio out jack | 08:35 |
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| ccm | somebody of you using the hug-tools? | 09:06 |
| thekorn | ccm, soory, which hug-tools? or do you mean the hugday-tools | 09:11 |
| ccm | thekorn: yes, i mean "hugday" | 09:13 |
| ccm | I just tried to set it up (the version from karmic with the wiki documentation) | 09:13 |
| thekorn | ccm, ok, so yes, I'm using them | 09:13 |
| ccm | I ran into the problem that it seems I don't have a cookie named MOIN* | 09:13 |
| thekorn | hmm ok | 09:14 |
| thekorn | let me check | 09:14 |
| ccm | maybe that is related to the now openid stuff? | 09:14 |
| thekorn | no, once you logged in into the wiki there should be a MOIN cookie | 09:14 |
| thekorn | that's at least how it worked in the past | 09:15 |
| ccm | thekorn: okay, i will check that again | 09:15 |
| thekorn | ccm, hugday init --user thekorn --cookie ~/.mozilla/firefox/anwhxcak.default/cookies.sqlite works for me | 09:17 |
| ccm | thekorn: now it works | 09:20 |
| ccm | thekorn: i will update the wiki documentation | 09:20 |
| thekorn | ccm, super, thanks | 09:25 |
| ccm | thekorn: done. you can review if you like: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Tools?action=diff&rev2=7&rev1=5 | 09:28 |
| ccm | hi bdrung_ :) | 09:29 |
| thekorn | ccm, aha, sounds good, good point | 09:29 |
| ccm | thekorn: yeah, you get a crappy error message "cannot handle format" which does help you otherwise | 09:30 |
| ccm | nice tool, by the way | 09:30 |
| * thekorn adds "improving this error message" to his TODO | 09:31 | |
| thekorn | glad you like it | 09:32 |
| bdrung_ | hi ccm | 09:35 |
| matti | :) | 10:07 |
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| Vorik | Im running an updated version of karmic on a MSI wind u100. Most of the times in GDM, the display brightness bounces around between 2 levels. (like twice a second) | 11:00 |
| Vorik | When logged in, it sometimes happens also (spontaniously) | 11:01 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 15:37 |
| hggdh | baBOO | 16:15 |
| dholbach | Ubuntu Developer Week will start in 25 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 16:35 |
| AnAnt | Hello, can someone help with this bug LP 414795 ? | 17:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 414795 in pulseaudio "PC beep no longer works in Karmic alpha4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414795 | 17:07 |
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| bdmurray | seb128: Should the desktop bugs team be subscribed to gnome-disk-utility bugs? | 17:40 |
| seb128 | doesn't make a difference I would say | 17:40 |
| seb128 | I doubt anybody manage to read all the desktop-bugs emails anyway | 17:40 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ^ opinion? | 17:41 |
| pedro_ | seb128, bdmurray that's ok for me | 17:43 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, could you subscribe the team to libgweather and gtksourceview2 as well? | 17:46 |
| pedro_ | most of the time we reassign bugs to those products, there's not a lot of people filing the bugs directly there, but anyways just in case | 17:47 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: done | 17:50 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, thanks! | 17:50 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: hi... a few ayatana bugs have been lost in a black hole :( , this was due to recent naming change of ayatana > the ayatana project... bugs which existed in ayatana alone are now inaccessible , any way we could recover them? | 17:58 |
| mac_v | the bugs were invalidated to facilitate the name change | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: I'm not really following. Can you give me an example bug or the exact names of the projects? | 18:02 |
| mac_v | bug #397724 | 18:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 397724 in dead-ayatana "clipboard uses both selection and traditional clipboard (might be misleading)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397724 | 18:03 |
| bdmurray | wouldn't also affects project + new project name add a task where you want it? | 18:04 |
| mac_v | i dint follow? | 18:04 |
| bdmurray | click "+ Also affects project". type in mane of the new ayatana project and you should be good to go | 18:05 |
| bdmurray | s/mane/name/ | 18:05 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: the thing is , bugs which existed in ayatana alone , are now *not* accessible , since it points to DEAD-ayatana | 18:05 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: just click on the lp link above , you'll see what i mean | 18:06 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: what's the name of the right project? | 18:06 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: hmm... now , i dont think ayatana is accepting bugs , but they can be changed back to papercuts | 18:07 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: see this for what I mean https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/397724 | 18:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 397724 in dead-ayatana "clipboard uses both selection and traditional clipboard (might be misleading)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 18:08 |
| bdmurray | on stagigng | 18:08 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: \o/ how did you do that? | 18:09 |
| mac_v | did you add the papercuts? | 18:10 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: so basically such dead projects can be accessed from the .staging. site? | 18:13 |
| bdmurray | I clicked also affects project beneath the tasks on the bug page and then chose the right project name | 18:13 |
| bdmurray | I don't understand how the project is "dead" | 18:13 |
| bdmurray | the initial bug link you gave me was fine, I was just using staging as an example to show how to do it w/o really modifying the bug report | 18:14 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: "Launchpad bug --- in dead-ayatana" , see the ubottu response | 18:14 |
| bdmurray | they just renamed the project to dead-ayatana it doesn't mean anything | 18:14 |
| mac_v | oh! | 18:14 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: i thought that since the "ayatana" was closed and started again as the "The Ayatana project" , the old one was named dead ;p | 18:15 |
| mac_v | s/was named/got auto named | 18:16 |
| AnAnt | Hello, is the bug LP 328080 linked to upstream properly ? | 18:18 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 328080 in verilog "Cryptic error message when passing events to functions." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328080 | 18:18 |
| AnAnt | I ask because I was not able to add an upstream bug URL via "Affects project" button | 18:19 |
| bdmurray | AnAnt: looking | 18:19 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 18:19 |
| bdmurray | AnAnt: the problem here is there is no upstream project info | 18:22 |
| AnAnt | bdmurray: and ? | 18:23 |
| bdmurray | AnAnt: I'm looking into it | 18:23 |
| AnAnt | oh | 18:23 |
| mac_v | !logs | 18:24 |
| ubot4 | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 18:24 |
| AnAnt | bdmurray: well, sorry, I have to run now, I'll try to be back after a couple of hours | 18:32 |
| bdmurray | AnAnt: okay, its been a bit since I've done this | 18:33 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: why is it not allowing to just change the project? is says > Not Found Object: , name: u'dead-ayatana' | 18:37 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: how are you changing it? | 18:37 |
| mac_v | i'm just trying to switch the project , instead of using the "Also affects" | 18:38 |
| mac_v | wont that work now? | 18:38 |
| bdmurray | I don't believe changing projects works. I'm pretty sure there is a bug about that. That's why I said also affects project. | 18:39 |
| mac_v | changing projects , doesnt work only for this , i just change a few other normal bugs , using that :( ,its just not allowing ayatana :( | 18:40 |
| bdmurray | are you sure it was changing projects and not changing packages? | 18:40 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: hmm... i change the hundred papercuts , to NULL , those are projects or packages? | 18:41 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: hmm, that is a project | 18:42 |
| mac_v | yeah | 18:42 |
| bdmurray | jcastro: someone was trying to add a bug watch to bug 328080 and I don't recall how to setup the upstream project. | 18:42 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 328080 in verilog "Cryptic error message when passing events to functions." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328080 | 18:42 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: as i said earlier , i believe the "dead" was not due to renaming , but rather since the bug was closed | 18:43 |
| mac_v | s/bug/project | 18:43 |
| jcastro | looking! | 18:43 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: i'll use also affects for now , and ask you for help for those which dont allow :) | 18:43 |
| jcastro | ugh | 18:44 |
| jcastro | series | 18:44 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: or could you look at this > error ID OOPS-1342F1736 , pls :) | 18:46 |
| ubot4 | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1342F1736 | 18:46 |
| greg-g | neat, bugzilla.gnome automagically collapses backtraces in the webview | 18:47 |
| jcastro | bdmurray: created and linked | 18:47 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: you'd be better off asking about OOPSes in #launchpad | 18:48 |
| mac_v | hehe , ok ;) | 18:48 |
| bdmurray | jcastro: right but how did you do it? | 18:48 |
| jcastro | oh, you have to create an entirely new project | 18:51 |
| jcastro | so from the lp front page, create new project | 18:51 |
| jcastro | then you have to go find the upstream home page, get the license right, etc. | 18:51 |
| jcastro | after it's in lp then it allows you to link bugs to it | 18:53 |
| bdmurray | so its still quite some work then | 18:53 |
| jcastro | yes, but we've got the major ones | 18:54 |
| jcastro | usually when I do it now is when an upstream breaks up into things, so from like "foo" to "foo-data" "foo-frontend" or something | 18:54 |
| bdmurray | jcastro: okay, thanks for the help! | 18:56 |
| jcastro | no worries! | 18:57 |
| jcastro | I haven't had to make one in a while! | 18:57 |
| greg-g | jcastro: those can't be auto-created based off of the packaging information? :) But I suppose we've already passed the point where not many new projects need to be created in LP | 19:01 |
| jcastro | I /think/ maybe the first time they did it | 19:02 |
| jcastro | at the beginning I spent alot of time making them | 19:02 |
| jcastro | IMO it should let you link to any bug tracker and make a watch, but it's designed to not let you do that. | 19:03 |
| jcastro | it makes you fill in all this stuff for some kind of meta-launchpad take-over-the-world reason | 19:03 |
| jcastro | *shrug* | 19:04 |
| bdmurray | jcastro: Ideally this should be part of the adding a package to Ubuntu process too | 19:09 |
| micahg | bdmurray: can we get the ls-duplicate script into the package ubuntu-qa-tools? | 19:10 |
| bdmurray | see the attachment in bug 225588 for an easter egg of sorts | 19:11 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 225588 in qcomicbook "qcomicbook hangs when opening zip archives" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225588 | 19:11 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: okay I think there is something wrong with gmane - http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.linux.ubuntu.bugs.general looking around there it stops around 30 Mar 2009 | 19:31 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, sometimes it does, sometimes it does not. | 19:46 |
| hggdh | I cannot -- yet -- understand why | 19:46 |
| hggdh | but if you search for a specific author, it goes beyond March | 19:46 |
| hggdh | this is why I am considering hosting the archive | 19:47 |
| greg-g | jcastro: yeah, one LP to rule them all and all that | 19:51 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: the ones that do show up past 20090330 are universe bugs | 19:54 |
| bdmurray | gmane.linux.ubuntu.bugs.universe:122878 <- notice the universe there | 19:54 |
| bdmurray | there is ubuntu.bugs.general and ubuntu.bugs.universe which are different mailing lists | 19:56 |
| hggdh | oh bloody hell. Only Universe, then. Let me try to contact gmane | 19:56 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: great thanks, and please cc me as I'm the mailing list admin | 19:57 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, will do | 20:03 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: awesome thanks! | 20:03 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, done. I guess we will have to wait for tomorrow, since it is already night there. | 20:11 |
| ^arky^ | hi, question why so many unlinked bugs get assigned to yelp? | 20:27 |
| ^arky^ | Is it coz report bug using help system or something ? | 20:28 |
| bdmurray | ^arky^: yes a lot of people use help report a problem from yelp, but I think pedro_ is working on a patch for that | 20:29 |
| ^arky^ | good to hear | 20:29 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: do you know when the people.ubuntu to people.canonical change happened? | 20:29 |
| ^arky^ | jcastro: you around man? | 20:29 |
| jcastro | ^arky^: yo | 20:30 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, no I do not. I *know* it happened, but not when | 20:30 |
| hggdh | 2 years ago? | 20:30 |
| ^arky^ | yesterday I volunteered to be upstream contact for gnome-orca | 20:30 |
| pedro_ | ^arky^, right, i've created a small apport hook for that case ; bug 418156 | 20:31 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 418156 in yelp "Yelp Apport Hook" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418156 | 20:31 |
| pedro_ | ^arky^, most of the reporters on yelp think that the app is for asking for help rather than search it by yourself on the docs | 20:31 |
| pedro_ | so i hope that those small set of questions will help to solve that | 20:31 |
| ^arky^ | yeah, perhaps you should merge it with apport if the patch is complete, it would really bring the volume of 'assignment-needed' bugs | 20:32 |
| pedro_ | i don't have the rights to merge it ;-) | 20:33 |
| pedro_ | it should be reviewed and applied to yelp instead though | 20:33 |
| jcastro | ^arky^: there's no seperate field for upstream contacts yet, so subscribing to the bugs should be sufficient for now | 20:33 |
| ^arky^ | yup you are right | 20:33 |
| ^arky^ | thanks jcastro , is there way that I subscribe to all the bugs in a package by default | 20:34 |
| jcastro | yeah, one sec | 20:34 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gnome-orca | 20:35 |
| jcastro | click on "Subscribe to bug mail" | 20:35 |
| jcastro | (that works for any project) | 20:35 |
| jcastro | warning: you'll want to make sure your filtering in your mailer is set up | 20:36 |
| jcastro | on some projects that can totally demolish your inbox | 20:36 |
| ^arky^ | thanks for the warning jcastro | 20:41 |
| ^arky^ | pedro_: the hooks works fine to me, just one suggest perhaps we need to rephrase the return message for request for help | 20:41 |
| ^arky^ | jcastro: Thanks I am following gnome-orca, speech-dispatcher and accerciser | 20:47 |
| jcastro | rock and roll! | 20:48 |
| ^arky^ | Perhaps it would be really wonderful if someone from bugsquad wants to take me under their wing and mentor me | 20:48 |
| jcastro | just ask here, that's what I do | 20:48 |
| jcastro | and attend a hug day, that should be enough | 20:49 |
| ^arky^ | :) | 20:49 |
| ^arky^ | yeah, that I do | 20:50 |
| ^arky^ | bug 328946 : Trying to build a package without ubuntu patches to zero in on the problem. The ubuntu sounds defeated me so far | 20:51 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 328946 in gnome-power-manager "Improve Audio Notification When Plugged In" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328946 | 20:51 |
| AnAnt | Hello, how did you guys do the bug watch ? | 21:02 |
| blackest_knight | how to get rid of something on a gnome panel when you cant right click it? | 21:04 |
| LordMetroid | I just file bugs, I do not watch them | 21:04 |
| blackest_knight | wrong window | 21:04 |
| LordMetroid | Except at times when I am playing zoologist | 21:04 |
| AnAnt | ah, create a project in LP | 21:05 |
| AnAnt | jcastro: so for every upstream software, there must be an LP project page for it ? | 21:07 |
| jcastro | to link a bug to it, yeah | 21:07 |
| jcastro | because lp needs to know where the bug tracker is and all that | 21:07 |
| jcastro | but we have pages for most of them | 21:07 |
| AnAnt | ok | 21:09 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 21:11 |
| ^arky^ | Where should bug 423938 reassigned to? gnome-desktop ? | 21:11 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 423938 in ubuntu "gnome window should work with keyboard." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423938 | 21:11 |
| BUGabundo | boas | 21:21 |
| pedro_ | ^arky^, don't think so, seems he's referring to the window manager, not sure which one though, could you ask him? | 21:24 |
| pedro_ | ^arky^, i don't know what he's requesting there either, since you can do that with both window managers, so a better description is needed as well ;-) | 21:25 |
| ^arky^ | sure, doing that | 21:27 |
| Tumie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/423875 | 22:32 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 423875 in ubuntu "About Ubuntu says something about Pidgin, but Empathy is installed." [Undecided,New] | 22:32 |
| Tumie | can somebody take a look at that? | 22:32 |
| Tumie | i think somebody didn't understand it right | 22:32 |
| Tumie | i'm also going to make a screenshot right now | 22:33 |
| micahg | Tumie: thank you for reporting this, the screenshot will be helpful to see where to assign this | 22:35 |
| Tumie | http://84.29.145.221/Screenshot.png << here is the screenshot | 22:36 |
| micahg | Tumie: can you attach it to the bug please | 22:37 |
| Tumie | ok | 22:37 |
| micahg | bdmurray: what's the ubuntu installer called? ubiquity? | 22:38 |
| bdmurray | micahg: yes, that is the gui version of the installer | 22:38 |
| micahg | so the screenshot above is of ubiquity? | 22:38 |
| Tumie | so.. the package is ubiquity ? | 22:39 |
| bdmurray | well, actually it is likely ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | wow | 22:40 |
| micahg | cool | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | the installer looks kewl | 22:40 |
| micahg | thanks bdmurray | 22:40 |
| bdmurray | I'd double check though | 22:40 |
| micahg | they can reassign if it's wrong | 22:40 |
| Tumie | where can i add the package to it? | 22:41 |
| bdmurray | its likely a dup of bug 423640 | 22:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 423640 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "pidgin promoted in slideshow while not being in the livefs or resulting install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423640 | 22:41 |
| Tumie | ow | 22:41 |
| micahg | got it | 22:41 |
| Tumie | somebody already did it :) | 22:41 |
| micahg | thanks | 22:42 |
| Tumie | yes, i think it's a duplicate :) | 22:42 |
| * micahg marked it as such | 22:42 | |
| Tumie | can somebody add my screenshot to the older bug? | 22:43 |
| Tumie | never mind | 22:44 |
| micahg | The other bug is descriptive enough. Thank you for reporting this and please let us know if you see anything else. | 22:44 |
| bdmurray | it should be fairly trivial to fix if someone wants to give it a shot | 22:45 |
| billybigrigger | anyone know the bug number for the missing Applications icons? | 23:00 |
| micahg | billybigrigger: are you referring to bug 408361? | 23:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 408361 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox needs to use "gtk_image_menu_item_set_always_show_image" for essential icons." [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408361 | 23:02 |
| billybigrigger | no | 23:02 |
| billybigrigger | in karmic, all the icons from Applications/Places/System are gone | 23:02 |
| billybigrigger | but they appear in System/Preferences and Administration | 23:02 |
| billybigrigger | just not the root menus | 23:02 |
| seb128 | right, same bug | 23:03 |
| seb128 | or design decision | 23:03 |
| billybigrigger | so there's a fix from mozilla, just not for ubuntu? | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | I got OOo fixed to | 23:05 |
| seb128 | billybigrigger, not sure what you are asking | 23:13 |
| seb128 | billybigrigger, removing icons from most menus was a design decision from GNOME | 23:13 |
| billybigrigger | im reading | 23:13 |
| billybigrigger | i see that it was a gnome development decision | 23:13 |
| komputes | Since today is Network Manager Hug Day, can someone in BugControl assign this bug to an individual https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/284596 | 23:13 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 284596 in network-manager "nm-applet fail when another user is logged in (intrepid)" [Unknown,In progress] | 23:13 |
| billybigrigger | well they should enable all icons, or disable all icons | 23:13 |
| billybigrigger | having them half and half looks bloody stupid | 23:13 |
| seb128 | they show icons for object | 23:14 |
| seb128 | drives, files, bookmarks | 23:14 |
| billybigrigger | oh geez | 23:16 |
| billybigrigger | who decides these things | 23:16 |
| billybigrigger | ALL icons in the root menus, Apps/Places/System should be disable | 23:16 |
| billybigrigger | Apps has all but Add remove | 23:16 |
| billybigrigger | Places has 1 icon here, 1 there | 23:16 |
| billybigrigger | System has NONE | 23:16 |
| billybigrigger | it looks like a freakin' mess :) | 23:17 |
| Flare183 | ..... | 23:18 |
| billybigrigger | ? | 23:20 |
| micahg | komputes: we don't assign bugs to people | 23:40 |
| komputes | micahg: any tips on moving this bug forward? | 23:41 |
| micahg | nope | 23:41 |
| micahg | it's an upstream issue | 23:41 |
| micahg | you can go upstream if you want to help fix it | 23:41 |
| hggdh | which would help | 23:41 |
| micahg | otherwise, we generally wait for upstream to fix since we have so much Ubuntu stuff to do | 23:42 |
| micahg | komputes: once a bug is at the triaged state, our job (bug control) generally ends and the Ubuntu developers take over | 23:43 |
| komputes | micahg: thanks for your help | 23:44 |
| micahg | np komputes, thank you for your help triaging | 23:44 |
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