[00:06] ttx_, 419306 [00:06] bug 419306 affects uec/ec2 images [00:06] Launchpad bug 419306 in python-boto "boto.utils.get_instance_userdata() hangs for a long time if no userdata is provided" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419306 === LyonJT_ is now known as LyonJT [00:17] screen -r [00:17] There is a screen on: [00:17] 16365.pts-5.njnode (06/09/09 02:01:52) (Attached) [00:17] There is no screen to be resumed. [00:17] how can i reattach to this screen ? [00:24] orudie: read the manpage -- you've been asking a ton of questions answered in documentation [00:24] screen -dr will detach an attached screen, and resume it on the local terminal [00:26] sorry giovani [00:26] you have been really helpful all day [00:26] :) [00:26] i have done a lot today [00:26] thanks for your help === ttx_ is now known as ttx [01:01] Hi - Ive been looking at this http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-802-2 [01:01] and when I do a $ sudo apt-get install apache2 -s [01:01] it wants to REMOVE apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php5 php5 [01:01] what is going on there ? [01:01] prefork and php5 are essential [01:03] anyone? [01:03] 205 members in this chat room surely someone can help me out lol [01:04] come on guys [01:05] Alysum: this is a community support channel, it's dinner time in the US, please don't complain that way [01:06] lol its an international room [01:06] clearly if someone was around who wanted to/could help, they would [01:06] so you complaining that you're not receiving free help in minutes is absurd [01:06] you asked the question literally 2-3 minutes before you started complaining [01:09] can you pastebin the full output from the command you ran? [01:10] uh, wait a second [01:10] this is not an update to 2.0 [01:10] it's an update to 2.2 [01:10] you seem to be trying to upgrade the wrong packages [01:11] Alysum: is there a reason you're not using "apt-get upgrade" to install all the applicable security updates? [01:11] or even "apt-get dist-upgrade" (which is sometimes needed for kernel security updates in particular)? [01:11] Note that the USN states: "In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary changes." [01:13] slangasek: also note that he's upgrading the wrong packages for the USN [01:13] and has disappeared [01:13] after demanding help within minutes [01:13] how courteous [01:13] he's still in the channel [01:14] and installing the wrong packages is secondary to running the wrong command entirely [01:15] it's not the "wrong command" to manually upgrade a single package [01:15] rather than upgrading everything [01:16] it may not be a recommended method, but it's definitely used widely in practice [01:16] what is relevant to his question is that he's updating different packages than the USN he's supplying is talking about [01:16] it's definitely not a method I recommend [01:16] and if you use the method I do recommend, the problem goes away. [01:16] heh [01:16] except when you want to selectively upgrade packages [01:17] which you do in a production environment [01:18] which port is used by verne.freenode.net ? [01:18] orudie: I don't follow you? -- port 6667 is standard for irc [01:19] giovani, i'm trying to /server add in irssi [01:19] with the following command [01:19] Im never confident doing upgrades on ubuntu 8.04 [01:19] btw: to avoid getting the wrong package, I ALWAYS run the standard upgrade with -s (eg: apt-get -s upgrade /or/ apt-get -s dist-upgrade) to see what it wants to install in the way of packages, and then if I want to pick and choose, I have the correct list. [01:19] Alysum: do you run apache2 or apache2.2? [01:19] as it's a live server - you're worried it will break things [01:19] giovani, /server add -auto -address verne.freenode.net -network freenode [01:20] orudie: ok, and? [01:20] apache 2.2 Ive just upgraded apache2.2-common and php5 [01:20] Alysum: then why are you trying to install apache2? [01:20] giovani: there is no package called apache2.2 in Ubuntu 8.04 (or elsewhere), 'apache2' *is* the correct package name [01:20] giovani, /server add -auto -address verne.freenode.net -network freenode [01:21] giovani, Irssi: Not enough parameters given [01:21] yes silly me I should upgrade just the package not the whole apache I realise as it uses worker by default and not prefork [01:21] Alysum: however, you are more likely to break things by trying to hand-pick parts of the security updates than by installing all the related packages with apt-get dist-upgrade [01:21] orudie: this is not an irssi support channel [01:21] Alysum: at the very least, that would show you which binary packages the system says should be upgraded [01:21] a dist upgrade on 8.04 will it upgrade it to 8.10 ? [01:22] no [01:22] Alysum: and if you do want to hand-pick, run a full upgrade in simulation mode (-s, as above) and you will see what it wants to do [01:22] yes Im familiar with -s [01:22] "dist-upgrade" means "do an upgrade that allows packages to be installed and removed as necessary to satisfy dependencies" [01:22] in this case, apt-get upgrade should work also [01:23] Sam-I-Am: ping! [01:27] ok Im going to do an upgrade and pray :) [01:28] well, I certainly advise you to take note of the output and ask more questions if anything you see concerns you [01:32] ok well it says it will upgrade apache2 and Im using 2.2 [01:32] yes, that's normal [01:32] doest say anything about removing mpm-prefork which is good [01:32] most of the packages are stuff I dont use except opsview [01:33] Im doing an AMI backup anyway [01:36] Im also confused with mysql-server [5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10] (5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 Ubuntu:9.04/jaunty-updates) [01:37] it's really really 5.0 ? [01:37] then why is the packaged named 5.1 ? [01:38] Alysum, long story :-/ [01:38] Alysum: the package name is "mysql-server". The version number is "5.1.30really5.0[...]" because version numbers have to always be incrementing, so this is one of the few options available for rolling it back when a developer decides the new upstream version isn't ready. [01:39] Ummm. [01:39] Yuck! [01:39] so when it will actually be 5.1 it will be called 5.2 ubuntu? :p [01:39] That's all I can say about using such a versioning method. [01:39] Alysum: no, in Ubuntu 9.10 it will be "5.1.37-1ubuntu2". :) [01:40] Psi-Jack, well, there are epochs which let you use lower version numbers, but it can break syncing packages to Debian. [01:40] btw when is the next LTS release due ? [01:40] what you're seeing there is an artifact of a one-time decision to roll back the version [01:40] Alysum, there are packages with much worse version strings [01:40] Alysum: 10.04 is slated to be the next LTS [01:40] Alysum: Well, since the current one us 8.04, I'd say.. 10.04 [01:40] ok [01:41] Alysum, another one you can get like that is: 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 [01:41] then why isnt that mysql-server upgrade available to 8.04 ? [01:41] Alysum: Because it's stable as of 8.04 [01:42] Security patches are all that go into LTS [01:42] Alysum, once a distribution is released, newer versions of packages are not released to it except in very rare cases, or via backports. [01:42] so the jaunty one isnt as stable? [01:42] I dont understand why have LTS then lol [01:42] LTS means more stability and only important upgrades ? [01:42] Alysum, something like that. The only upgrades in an LTS fix bugs, or security fixes [01:43] LTSes also are supported for 3 years on desktop, five years on server [01:43] vs 18 months for normal releases [01:43] Yeah, which support means almost jack didly squat usually. heh [01:43] I have 7 ubuntu servers from 8.04LTS, 8.10 to 9.04 [01:43] Psi-Jack: pardon? [01:44] am I doing the right thing? [01:44] Psi-Jack, support for an LTS, or support for a stable release [01:44] Alysum, generally, I'd keep them all on the last LTS unless you need something for a newer version. Don't need to upgade once every six months :-) [01:45] Which can be a bad thing, not upgrading every 6 months. ;) [01:45] Im also wondering whether I should go back to Debian so I dont have to upgrade all the time... [01:45] Alysum, LTS's release on the same timeframe as Debian's normal releases [01:45] Alysum, just use LTS releases for servers. [01:45] /roughly/ the same timeframe [01:46] so 9.10LTS will be similar to Debian 5? [01:46] 10.04 you mean? [01:46] sorry yes [01:46] Alysum, closer to what will be Debian 6 [01:46] Since we branch off sid, and Debian plans to freeze in December [01:46] well there is no date set for Deb 6 [01:47] so surely 10.04 wont be LTS by then [01:47] Alysum, the freeze date is going to be December 2009, unless things have hcanged since debconf [01:47] ok I see [01:47] Alysum, *sigh*, LTS releases are every two years, or every four releases. [01:47] ok [01:47] So 6.06 LTS, 8.04 LTS, 10.04 LTS, 12.04 LTS, etc. [01:48] there's been no committment to a 12.04 LTS [01:48] two years is an estimate, not a promise [01:48] I guess this is not the right place to open a can of worms Ubuntu LTS vs Debian :) [01:48] I dunno. Personally, I couldn't run the same server exactly specced for 2 full years witout upgrading. That's /very/ long wait times between major important upgrades. [01:48] NCommander: actually that's not strictly true.. it's currently that way, and they plan to keep it that way, but it's been acknowledged that it's not a 'hard and fast' rule. [01:48] Psi-Jack, define important upgrades [01:49] NCommander: What version of OpenLDAP comes with 8.04? [01:49] In my case it' just a LAMP server [01:49] Psi-Jack, 2.4.9 [01:50] * NCommander had to look it up [01:50] Precisely, with a very bad version of BerkeleyDB and there's been MAJOR and important changes in OpenLDAP between 2.4.9 and 2.4.17. [01:50] Psi-Jack, then request a backport [01:50] Show-stopper issues resolved in between , too. [01:50] Psi-Jack: in my case, it's the reverse.. as long as there is security updates, then I'm fine. I've had countless small upgrades break major and important servers before through version creep [01:51] one thing that is missing in Ubuntu8.04LTS is subversion1.6.1 [01:52] Bleh, it's all about git. [01:52] One thing that's missing and this looks quite intentional. [01:52] Is linux-igd for 8.04 specifically. [01:52] Alysum, 1.5 is available for Hardy [01:53] linux-igd was in 7.10, 7.04, and is in 8.10, 9.04, but specifically skipped 8.04 outright, and to this day, still no backport exists for it. [01:53] NCommander: yes and we want subversion 1.6! [01:53] Alysum, request a backport for it then :-P [01:54] And as you said, under rare occasions, backports are made. [01:54] Psi-Jack, its made when a user requests it, and a backporter ACKs it [01:54] Psi-Jack, linux-igd was deleted from Hardy intentionally [01:54] The comment was "unmaintained, broken with current kernel, removed in Debian" [01:55] A new version was published in Debian after Hardy, and that was auto-imported into Intrepid it seems [01:59] Hi all.. I am configuring a DNS server, I am not a pro on this. I have seen in many tutorials that people use server.domain.loca.l on the entries for the local zone. I did not use that nomenclature I just used server.domain. Would that make difference at all? [02:00] derp [02:03] Armour: nope, it's arbitrary [02:03] .local is an accepted standard though [02:03] using .local conflicts with the use of mdns [02:03] the main thing is you don't want it to clash with anything that's proposed or current [02:04] giovani: I am also setting up the server for LDAP+SAMBA... so maybe .local could be better [02:04] while this was an arbitrary limitation imposed on the world by the mDNS inventors, it does mean that .local should be avoided in practice for DNS [02:04] Armour: might be, simply cos it'll most likely be what the tutorials also use, and avoids config issues [02:06] cef: I see. I think I will try to go by the book, since this is my first linux DNS I configure [02:06] slangasek: I disagree ... DJ Bernstein is an advocate of using .local in DNS [02:06] DJ Bernstein is an advocate of all kinds of insane things [02:06] Microsoft also lists it as a best practice for internal networks [02:06] and they're a pioneer of mDNS [02:07] while these clearly aren't RFCs, they aren't negligible either [02:07] no, those are both negligible [02:07] the only things that count are a) the RFCs, b) real-world interop problems [02:07] Armour: take your advice from whom you like [02:07] if you use .local as a DNS domain, you will have interop problems with avahi [02:07] slangasek: Actually, I had exactly the opposite. [02:08] I /had/ problems by /not/ having .local in DNS [02:12] all right.... I already have it configured without the .local I been having some resolution problems internally on the network but that might also be a rookie problem. I am going to think it over and maybe I change it to .local [02:12] Thank you all for the quick response [02:22] I changed all to domain.local and got a bad owner name error (check-names) [02:22] so I guess did not like it [02:33] i just set up irssi proxy , how would i connect to it with xchat ? [02:39] Oi, well that was fun. [02:39] First my UPS goes nuts and rings out non-stop, then freenode detected I had an open proxy, which I didn't know about. === Armour_ is now known as Armour [04:06] Psi-Jack: an unknown open proxy? how'd that happen? [04:32] giovani: Ehh, installed hapv, and didn't know Debian default config was to have it publically open. [04:33] I hate how openssh-server does that, too [04:33] I wish debconf would prompt you to optionally add an AllowedUsers list [04:34] Ugh, I'd hate that, myself. heh [04:35] Sane safe defaults, are fine, outright open and vulnerable, is not. [04:35] Psi-Jack: you would just pick "no, fuck off" which would be the default in debconf [04:35] ssh defaults to listening to connects from anywhere, from anyone. That'd be safe if the system didn't have users on it with stupidly weak, unchanging passwords :-/ [04:36] That's why you setup password policies. [04:36] That's easy. [04:36] True [04:36] And not openssh's job, either. :) [04:36] Anyway, I'm tired, and heading off to bed. Night. [04:37] Usually the scenario is one server and a bunch of Windows desktops & users, plus one administrative account that we use to ssh into remotely. [04:37] I guess nobody has bothered to force the Windows users to have strong passwords on those sites [04:37] Bleh. I rarely deal in WIndows anymore. [04:37] Home and Work, small handful of Windows, the rest, Linux and OSX [04:37] Anyway, I'm off. ;0 [04:54] Hey, so out of curiosity I tried to apply my LTS desktop build procedure to 9.04, the latest release. [04:54] I get this: + auth-client-config -a -p lac_ldap ==> Error in updating the file: 'pam_account' not found === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [06:53] I'm running ubuntu server 9.04 and I'm trying to recompile the latest openldap with openssl support. configure can't seem to find my TLS/SSL no matter what I do. I've recompiled and installed openssl from both tarball, and ubuntu source, using both make install and checkinstall. I always get the errors of: configure: error: Could not locate TLS/SSL package [06:53] the two lines before that are 1: checking for SSL_library_init in -lssl... no and 2: checking for ssl3_accept in -lssl... no === cemc1 is now known as cemc [06:56] eeguy_: the default OpenLDAP package should be compiled with SSL support. [06:56] yeah, it's compiled with gnutls [06:56] Is this a problem? [06:57] which is broken, and has support issues with the openldap project [06:58] Have you reported this on launchpad? [06:58] I'm pretty sure it's been reported.. I was chatting with a guy on the openldap channel last night that's tried to take this up several times [06:59] I have been trying to work with them to get this running... doesn't seem like they like supporting gnutls at all, and have been forced into it by debian [07:01] Debian (and Ubuntu) doubtless use gnutls because it is illegal for them to distribute binaries of openldap that link against openssl. [07:02] eeguy_: you've installed the libssl-dev packages? [07:04] http://bugs.debian.org/428385 [07:04] no.. that might be the missing link.. I installed all the other dependencies. is libssl openssl? [07:05] afaik, it's the dev libs you need [07:07] I'll give it a shot.. thanks. I've been searching all over for that [07:20] twb: and which license prevents that? openssl and openldap are distributed under BSD-style licenses [07:21] * Boohbah reads the bug [07:23] Boohbah: looks like the problem is that lots of OTHER programs, which are GPL, use openldap and thus link to openssl indirectly. === NCommander is now known as Guest14048 === simplexi2 is now known as simplexio [08:26] when booting my computer, it reboots at "Starting Samba Daemons" it just goes into an infinite loop. Anyone know why? [08:27] No, but try putting set -x at the top of /etc/init.d/samba [08:28] It might actually finish the samba step and then hang in the next part. === diehaai is now known as thefish === masACC is now known as maswan [09:35] New bug: #423579 in amavisd-new (universe) "Spam hangs amavisd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423579 [10:20] hi guys am trying to configure sudo so that admin members can only install and upgrade their system and nothing more .. hence sudo will only be used when with apt-get and aptitude [10:20] of cus root user would still have absolute powers :) [10:41] Hi [10:41] I want to install the mailman package [10:41] but I don't want to install apache also, I've a dedicated server with apache [10:41] is there any chance to just install mailman? [10:41] or is it any other way to install mailman and point to my mail server instead of the local server? [10:41] s/local server/localhost [12:17] does anyone have any experience recovering mp3 files with foremost? [12:22] New bug: #423653 in openvpn (universe) "Openvpn + rkhunter + postfix = openvpn client not able to start " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423653 [12:25] when i try to boot my server, it resets itsself at "Starting Samba Daemons", and goes into an infinite loop. Any ideas? === mattt_ is now known as mattt [12:53] I want to install the mailman package, but I do not want to install the apache or other web stuff. I want to use another machine which is configured as a web server. Is it any chance to use install only the mailman package? or I can install the mailman package on the web server and point it to use my mail server? [12:53] Daviey: mir bug #423667 filed [12:53] Launchpad bug 423667 in ubuntu-server-tips "[MIR] fortunes-ubuntu-server" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423667 [12:54] acalvo: not possible AFAIK. Mailman web interface is required on the same machine unless I have missed something [12:56] that's what I've believed [12:56] so bad then [13:08] acalvo: nijaba is right, mailman needs the CGI and SMTP scripts on the same host [13:08] ok, thank you both [13:08] any other software that offers mailing lists? [13:08] sympa [13:08] maybe with a LDAP plugin? [13:08] acalvo: check out sympa [13:08] alexm: :) [13:08] twice [13:08] should be good then [13:08] web dependent too? [13:09] acalvo: and sympa is written in Perl not Python, just in case that is a plus for you ;) [13:09] it is [13:09] acalvo: for ldap and mailman, check out: http://nicolas.barcet.com/drupal/fr/mmldap [13:09] it is for me, but I learnt about sympa too late [13:10] acalvo: don't know whether it's web dependent or not [13:10] I'll check it now [13:10] and thanks, nijaba, cleanest way to create lists based on ldap searches [13:10] :D [13:11] acalvo: been using it since 2005 with no problems so far :) [13:11] wow [13:11] sympa depends on a lot more packages! [13:11] mainly mysql and sendmail [13:12] so same problem, I want to use another mysql server and I've already configured dovecot, so no sendmail installed neither [13:13] Daviey: FFe file as well bug #423678 [13:13] Launchpad bug 423678 in ubuntu-server-tips "[FFe]] fortunes-ubuntu-server" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423678 [13:14] acalvo: dovecot deals both with MTA and MDA part? [13:14] dovecot acts as LDA and MDA [13:14] and MTA, yes [13:14] postfix relays on dovecot [13:15] nijaba: great! [13:15] you can use postfix as MTA working together with dovecot ad MDA, it's a standard procedure on ubuntu server, see the server guide [13:15] yes, I've did it [13:15] Hi im trying to connect to a server which i just re installed. Now when i try to ssh to it it says host key verifcation failed [13:15] how do i fix this [13:15] but the sympa package is trying to install sendmail [13:15] is it really needed? [13:16] since I've already have a MTA and MDA [13:16] acalvo: ah, ok... it shouldn't [13:16] maybe a bug [13:16] or maybe the package knows only to deal with sendmail [13:17] could be [13:17] acalvo: deps say.. sendmail (>= 8.9) | mail-transport-agent [13:17] so, yes, it needs sendmail as MTA [13:17] and postfix should fulfill mail-transport-agent [13:18] I think I've to use majordomo again [13:18] I don't really like it [13:18] no admin UI [13:18] just cmd [13:18] few options [13:18] etc [13:19] acalvo: sendmail (>= 8.9) | mail-transport-agent means sendmail or MTA [13:19] but it will install it [13:19] ok nevermind fixed itg [13:19] nijaba: slightly modded the bug description. [13:19] acalvo: there's something else that maybe triggering sendmail [13:19] Daviey: sure... on which one, FFe or MIR? [13:19] nijaba: FFe. [13:20] Conf sendmail-base (8.14.3-6 Ubuntu:9.04/jaunty) [13:20] Conf sendmail-cf (8.14.3-6 Ubuntu:9.04/jaunty) [13:20] Conf sendmail-bin (8.14.3-6 Ubuntu:9.04/jaunty) [13:20] Conf sensible-mda (8.14.3-6 Ubuntu:9.04/jaunty) [13:20] Conf sendmail (8.14.3-6 Ubuntu:9.04/jaunty) [13:20] acalvo: i just tried in a jaunty and it doesn't install sendmail for me :P [13:20] nijaba: There are two scripts in the package, one by me, and the other kirkland [13:20] :O [13:20] nijaba: RE, MIR [13:20] I don't get it then [13:21] that's the packages list to be installed: doc-base libappconfig-perl libarchive-zip-perl libcgi-fast-perl libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ciphersaber-perl libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl [13:21] libfcgi-perl libfreezethaw-perl libintl-perl libio-stringy-perl libmd5-perl libmime-charset-perl libmime-encwords-perl libmime-perl libmime-tools-perl [13:21] libmldbm-perl libmsgcat-perl libmysqlclient15off libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libtemplate-perl libuuid-perl libxml-libxml-common-perl [13:21] libxml-libxml-perl libxml-namespacesupport-perl libxml-sax-expat-perl libxml-sax-perl m4 make mhonarc mysql-common perl-suid procmail sendmail [13:21] sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sensible-mda [13:21] acalvo: are you sure that you have postfix installed? [13:21] Daviey: ah, sorry, I only noticed one :( [13:21] alexm: err... no [13:21] you're right [13:22] :) [13:22] tried on the bad server [13:22] ehehehe [13:22] thank you alexm, too many hours working can trick your mind [13:23] nijaba: /usr/bin/<-- wrapper script, mainly for checking locale and presenting a valid motd, or default if not found. [13:23] acalvo: anytime :) [13:23] Daviey: ah, right [13:23] * alexm goes to lunch now [13:23] Daviey: did you modify the mir accordingly? [13:24] acalvo: let me know how the sympa install is going, i'm very interested [13:24] ok, one sec [13:24] nijaba: no, happy to.. but didn't want to edit it if it was your WIP [13:25] Daviey: please feel free [13:26] acalvo: i meant how it works after installing it ;) [13:26] jajaj I know [13:26] thank you! [13:26] ok, then see you again soon [13:29] nijaba: updated [13:30] Daviey: thanks :) [13:30] nijaba: wait and see what MIR team say :) [13:31] Daviey: MIR should not be a problem, FFe might... [13:32] nijaba: surely, the fact that it is already in the archives makes some difference? [13:33] i thought FFe would be trivial, but MIR the challenge :S === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke [13:33] Daviey: the critical point is not the package itself, but the fact that we want to install it by default [13:34] nijaba: Isn't that a -server team choice? [13:35] Daviey: that needs to be validate by the release team once feature freeze is active [13:36] ahh [13:36] Daviey: we got already a review by lool on the MIR. Thanks lool [13:36] lool: \o/ [13:40] :) [13:46] Daviey, nijaba: Actually I missed something; you guys wrote that it builds a pot during build, but grepping the build log for pot doesn't yield anything and pkgstriptranslations doesn't find any either [13:46] Could yo umake sure you generate an up-to-date .pot during build as to allow Rosetta to pick an always fresh one [13:47] lool: yeah, the pot generation is currently manually done :( [13:47] Should be updated in each build and a .pot needs to be in the source dir at end of build [13:47] Currently it wont be picked up by rosetta [13:48] lool: ok.. i'm adding your previous suggestions upstream as we speak [13:49] Usually we do that in the packaging [13:49] lool: the packaging is in the upstream project :) [13:49] Oh ok [14:02] question. i set up irssi with a proxy module, the proxy is running but i am having trouble connecting === Sam-I-Am is now known as SamWork [14:04] does openldap have an email list distribution list function? === Sam-I-Am_ is now known as Sam-I-Am === Axims is now known as axims [14:34] pavel: try in #irssi === sgsax_ is now known as sgsax === axims is now known as Axims [14:42] Transferring Multiple files via sftp from my computer, to my server within my LAN, is resetting the server, does anyone know why? [14:42] This is not a problem from outside my lan [14:43] mattgyver: check logs? [14:43] pmatulis, i havent yet, which one would you suggest looking at? [14:44] mattgyver: force another "error" and then 'ls -ltr /var/log' is a trick [14:45] cool [14:46] mattgyver: can also start sshd like '/usr/sbin/sshd -dd', check man page for what that does [14:46] great === Axims is now known as axims [15:47] Weird, I enabled Intel VT in the bios and kvm still says it's disabled in the bios. [15:51] Well, it'll have to wait till next week [15:58] How do you disable a user password. Someone enabled it by passwd, but I need it disabled [16:14] heath|work: (sudo) passwd -i 0 username [16:15] cool. thanks genii [16:15] np [16:25] is anyone here familiar with connecting to irssi proxy with xchat from a remote computer ? [16:34] pavel: nope, but #irssi might [16:53] Oi. Setting up VPN with OpenVPN is such a pain! [17:08] !version [17:08] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [17:24] Hi, is there any difference on the new ubuntu concerning apt-get? It gives me new errors about dependancies which the older versions didnt have? [18:04] Why does apt-get install ubuntu-desktop give me dependancies error? [18:11] Why would you be doing that on a server? [18:18] Psi-Jack, its because the latest desktop version avaialble is 8.04 lts so I thought I would install 9.04 server with gui [18:21] hello [18:22] hi [18:22] FluxD, Well, X is not supported on a server platform, nor Ubuntu-Server. [18:22] You have absolutely no reason to install X on a real server. [18:22] No good reason, for sure. [18:22] Psi-Jack, I have done this before, after installing server version I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and I had gui thru nx [18:23] 8.10 and 8.04 [18:23] FluxD: what do mean by "latest desktop version avaialble is 8.04 lts" ? [18:24] FluxD, Again. X is not supported for servers. [18:24] FluxD, You need #ubuntu for that. [18:24] Because it's /not/ supported, here. [18:24] Hi guys, someone uses HAL on ubuntu server? I tried but ended up giving up and returning to the autofs automount cdrom [18:24]