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jorge_please help02:39
jorge_how do i know if my video is working right?02:40
jorge_anyone??02:42
jorge_please!02:42
jorge_how do i know if my video is working right?02:44
anom01yjorg02:53
taranihello, everyone04:28
taranii need some help...04:28
taranii just installed xubuntu and i cannot access root04:28
taranikk nvm, i found a solution04:31
Techiei need help spoofing a headless server into thinking theres a screen attatched08:06
TheSheepwhat for?08:09
Techiex11vnc08:10
Techieim running a server in xubuntu 9.04 with x11vnc set to load at logon08:10
Techiewith an autologon08:10
Techiethis allows me to bypass all the trouble of setting up correct authorities for a new X session for aq vnc08:11
Techiea*08:11
Techiebut X wont start without a screen attatched08:11
Techieand please dont go on about running a display on a server, i usually dont08:12
TheSheepcan't you just ssh -XY to your server and run X apps from there, using your local X for display?08:14
Techieyes and no08:15
Techiei could, but i could be accessing it from any OS08:15
Techieand the other thing is that ive never been able to get X11 forwarding working08:16
Techiedo you know if X has an IRC channel anywhere?08:18
_Pete_Techie: X by default has that feature disabled now adays08:26
_Pete_so you have to drop privileges to it work08:26
_Pete_but as TheSheep said ssh is safer/better way08:26
Techieim not exactly looking for safe08:27
Techieits a box running @ my school and tbh theres only a handful of people there that would even know what a VNC connection is08:28
_Pete_if it's on public network08:29
_Pete_handful is enough08:29
Techielet me rephrase that08:29
Techiethe only people that would know what a VNC connection is, are my mates08:29
_Pete_Techie: hmm?08:30
_Pete_is the machine only accesible from local network, not from internet?08:30
Techieyep08:30
_Pete_which one?08:30
Techielocal08:31
jim_phello people!08:31
Techieplus admin would throw a shit if he caught me setting it up for external access08:31
_Pete_Techie: try freenx08:32
Techiei tried that08:32
Techiecould never get ti working though08:32
jim_pi need some help with xfce 4.6 "management". a) how can i edit the main menu? i want to remove some useless entries like conky08:32
_Pete_Techie: it didnt work ?08:33
Techiei wouldnt mind using the windows RDP protocol as that allows you to run apps with sound, but i cant find a server for it08:33
Techienope, it didnt work08:33
Techiewell, it did work... but not as it was supposed to08:33
_Pete_ok, what do you suppose from that then ?08:33
Techiethat i didnt have it configured right, but i didnt have the time to sit there for days to figure out what was wrong08:34
_Pete_Techie: hmm, I have only tested it so that remote has X/desktop installed08:35
_Pete_and works well even remote has no X08:35
TheSheepjim_p: you copy apropriate file from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications and edit it with a text editor08:35
jim_pTheSheep: give me a sec to have a look08:36
TheSheepjim_p: to hide an entry, add 'hide=True' to it08:36
TheSheepor was it hidden=True? can't rememeber08:36
Techieknow of any really good simple guides to setting up X forwarding08:36
jim_pTheSheep: /usr/share/applications is a folder! and i dont want to hide an app, i want to hide a submenu altogether (20+ apps)08:37
TheSheepthe submenu hides when all apps in it are hidden08:41
jim_pyea but i cant set 20+ apps to hidden!08:42
TheSheepwhat's stopping you?08:45
TheSheepby the way, if you want to remove those applications, use synaptic to uninstall them08:45
jim_pTheSheep: i dont want to remove conky for instance! i just dont want it in my menus08:49
Techie_Pete_, how can i enable X forwarding in X?09:12
_Pete_Techie: dont know09:13
_Pete_seek from man X09:13
_Pete_anyway it's very unwise to do09:13
_Pete_even on localnetwork09:13
Techieaye aye aye, i hate man pages09:14
_Pete_I too09:14
Techiewhy is it unwise to do?09:14
Techieall traffic is encrypted inside SSH209:14
_Pete_have been thinking there must be a course how to write those in a manner nobody will understand09:15
Techiemore than a course, i reckon they genetically enchance people to be able to do it09:15
_Pete_;D09:15
_Pete_Techie: if that's your case09:16
_Pete_..09:16
_Pete_what exactly is yourcase ?09:16
Techiemy case is getting some form of graphical output from my server box at school09:16
Techiemainly for selecting music to stream09:16
Techieand sharing videos09:17
_Pete_and why do you need gfx for that in first place ?09:17
Techiebecause it makes searching a mp3 library much easier09:17
_Pete_how so?09:17
Techieyou ever tried searching through 8 gig of mp3 files when theyre not all named correctly09:18
_Pete_yes09:18
Techiedone it in a CLI?09:18
_Pete_yes09:18
Techiehow so?09:18
_Pete_petria@quadcore:~/pub/Muzik$ du -h09:18
_Pete_230G09:19
Techienice collection09:19
_Pete_usually09:19
_Pete_find somethng | grep other09:19
_Pete_does the trick09:19
Techieif i didnt have to check id3 tags then grep would do fine on its own09:20
_Pete_I guess there's cli tool to get those also09:20
_Pete_and so include in cli search09:20
Techiemwah ha ha there so kick in the bad thing about my school09:21
Techiethey run an ISA internet proxy which i dont have the password to09:21
Techieso im unable to retrieve files from aptitude or install dependencies easily09:22
_Pete_where is your school ?09:23
Techienew zealand09:23
_Pete_hmm09:24
_Pete_you know usual things to get around that ?09:24
Techieyes and no09:24
Techiei could tunnel through it09:24
_Pete_ssh is good :)09:24
Techieyeah09:24
Techieone problem09:24
Techieit wont allow anything onther than http or https packets through09:25
_Pete_your school proxy/firewall ?09:25
Techiebit of both09:25
_Pete_right09:25
Techieit acts as a socks proxy09:25
_Pete_but still ssh works ?09:25
Techienope09:25
Techiebut it also stops any non http traffic, incoming and outgoing09:26
_Pete_well if you are hackis enough09:26
Techiei could tunnel ssh through http past it, but i dont know the password and have yet to find a client that will use the settings from internet exploder09:26
_Pete_yes09:27
_Pete_If I were you would change school09:27
Techienot an option09:27
_Pete_much easier than hakcking09:27
Techieits my last year09:27
Techiepfff09:27
Techiehacking windows boxes and networks is easy09:27
_Pete_and pointless09:28
Techieyep09:28
Techiei have the administrator password, and have had it for years09:28
_Pete_how can you irc then ?09:28
Techieits almost useless though09:28
Techieim not at school09:28
Techieits 8:28 PM09:28
_Pete_right09:28
Techie+12 hours GMT09:28
_Pete_does it give any help if I let you account on here ?09:29
Techienope09:29
Techiei have many boxes that i can access09:29
Techiei have 2 in australia09:29
Techieone in the US i think09:29
Techieand hopefully one locally soon09:30
Techieonce my mate configures his router again09:30
Techieman, im gettign such a slow connection09:48
Techie_well that was a success and a failure10:03
ubuntuhello11:06
ubuntui'm installing xubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso and got this error at 94%: "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error."11:07
ubuntuany idea how to fix this?11:07
ubuntui've tried like 6 times and keep getting the same error11:08
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jiohdiI have three programs that appear on start up, how do I keep that from happening?13:04
TheSheepsystem->autostarted applications13:07
TheSheepor was that in settings?13:07
jiohdiits not in autostart13:08
jiohdiand I dont find any other settings that would have it13:09
TheSheepmaybe you saved them with session when you logged out last time?13:09
jiohdithey would have to have been saved a long time ago, every log out since has not had them running13:13
jiohdibut if I did save them somehow, how do I unsave them?13:13
TheSheepjiohdi: you can delete the files in ~/.cache/session13:15
jiohdiTheSheep, ok, rebooting to see if it works13:18
thejayjetsonunable to play YouTube videos-tried many things-can anyone help?13:24
Sysixubuntu-restricted-extras installed?13:25
thejayjetsonyes13:25
thejayjetsonRunning Xubuntu 9.04 on PS313:26
thejayjetsonwould you like to see the command(s) I was given and the result from the terminal most recently?13:26
Sysidunno, that ps3 is rather special, at lest to me13:27
knomethejayjetson, still no luck at #ubuntu-ps3 ?13:27
thejayjetsonnever any luck-i can't believe someone if even on this line13:27
thejayjetsonI really wish I would have never installed Xubuntu cause now I feel I have to made it work when I should just really forget about it13:28
marcPVhi there13:29
knome!hi | marcPV13:30
ubottumarcPV: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!13:30
marcPVthanks! I want to know how to unable the click on the pad (sorry for my english)13:30
thejayjetsondid you try taking the batteries out?13:31
marcPVI mean the touchpad, I only want it to move cursor, not to do click13:33
marcPVI want to do click only with buttons13:33
Sysisettings -> mouse?13:33
Sysihmm, seems not13:34
SiDi!shmconfig13:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about shmconfig13:34
SiDihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad13:34
marcPVwhat is shmconfig?13:34
marcPVlet me check that page, anyway I am a rookie on xubuntu so13:35
marcPVi hope its not difficult13:35
SiDiIts not13:36
SiDiYou have to enable SHMConfig (see above), then you can use touchfreeze to disable the touchpad click while typing, and gsynaptics to configure your touchpad13:37
marcPVok, thanks very much, I will try to enable that...13:39
SiDilet me know if anything goes wrong ;13:40
marcPVi see there are instructions for gnome and kde here, but not for xfce... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig13:43
marcPV(I also use Ubuntu on other laptop, and it's easy to enable touchpad clicks... sad)13:45
Sysignome is easy and xfce is light13:45
Sysinot big differences nowdays, but slihtly13:46
marcPVanyway, I may say that xfce works fine... in fact, it works on this 256mb laptop and gnome just don't13:47
Sysii've had exatly same13:48
Sysibut i like xfce so much that i have it on with 2gb ram too13:49
marcPVWow, it may fly13:49
Sysipretty much13:49
knomei have 4GB of ram and xubuntu.13:49
Sysibut i think it's simple and easy to configure etc.13:50
knomeafter about 1GB, you don't really notice the speed difference between gnome and xfce, if you don't run lots of stuff13:50
marcPVi fact, i think xcfe works better on wireless network13:50
Sysignome is bugsy for me13:51
marcPVby the way, any idea of what line i have to type here for xubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig13:52
marcPVit's not really important but I hate to do accidental clicks on the touchpad13:54
SiDiknome: xfce is snappier !13:59
SiDimarcPV: things that work for ubuntu work for xubuntu too14:00
knomemeh14:00
* knome opens the next bottle14:00
SiDigksudo mousepad /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi14:00
marcPVok, the gnome line then, thanks SiDi! Let me try...14:01
marcPV;)14:01
marcPVsorry, nothing happens when i type that in a terminal. It ask me for permission, then nothing.14:04
SiDiyou dont have gedit, i suppose :)14:05
SiDitry the line there14:05
SiDigksudo mousepad /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi14:05
SiDigksudo is for executing an application with the administrator rights14:05
SiDigedit / kate / mousepad are text editors14:05
marcPVoh, ok, thanks14:05
SiDi /etc/hal/.... is the path to the file to edit14:05
marcPVok, learning... mousepad works14:06
marcPV;)14:06
SiDiSo here, you're asked to add some text to a configuration file that will tell X.org (the graphical server that launches the graphics and mouse drivers and that is used on Linux) to launch the Synaptics drivers for your touchpad14:07
SiDithen utilities like gsynaptics can be used to edit the properties of your touchpad, now that the drivers are enabled14:07
SiDiAnd i need a coffee.14:07
marcPVlol, ok, go get that coffee14:08
knomecoffee? neh14:08
marcPVI have to restart now, I'll be back... I mean, if my laptop don't crash14:09
SiDiits too late for coffee, i need to go soon14:09
Sysiit's fun here where are people from so different places14:10
marcPVthanks a lot, by the way14:11
SiDiMany finnish people ! *points at knome*14:11
* knome hides behind his beer mug14:11
* SiDi wants a beer too14:11
SiDiWhy do you ALWAYS have beer with you ? T_T14:11
knomeget one then14:11
knomewell i just went to buy some :P14:12
knomerochefort 8, a trappist14:12
marcPVhi again14:31
marcPVI installed gsynaptics but now i can't find it... weird14:32
marcPVany idea?14:33
Sysirun on terminal14:33
marcPVhow?14:34
Sysiwrite gsynaptics and press enter14:35
Sysior use alt + f214:35
marcPVok, thanks, but it's weird isn't it?14:36
Sysimaybe not14:36
marcPVok, great! At last! I disable the touchpad click, I'm happy now! ;)14:37
Sysidoes .xmodmap work in current xfce?15:09
Sysii wonder if it's problem of fedora or xfce15:11
Sysiah, in fedora it need to be in other folder15:14
Speckali want to use the latest package for 9.04 that is discussed in this thread, but I'm not sure how to go about getting it (the "right" way). help please :)    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/27755616:34
miguelonnnnhiiiiii16:37
miguelonnnnplease i got a problem with ethrnet, i can't connect16:37
miguelonnnni plug the ethernet cable and set network connections to dhcp automtic but it doesn't configure16:37
idyllic<miguelonnnn> hmph, you can try fire up the terminal. "sudo dhclient eth0"16:39
Speckalhow do I see the list of packages a specific source provides?17:03
cody-somervillelook on packages.ubuntu.com17:03
Speckalhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/277556    how can I get the updated open-vm-tools package that was mentioned in this thread?17:47
likemindeadIs there a PPA?17:59
likemindeadThat's how I usually get the most recent packages of something I really like.17:59
Speckalyes there is18:02
Speckalthe address (I believe) is http://ppa.launchpad.net/grexk/ubuntu-dev/ubuntu18:03
Speckali have added that to my sources, both deb and deb-src18:03
Speckalthe package lists come back empty.  cat /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_grexk_ubuntu-dev_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_main_binary-i386_Packages is zero bytes18:04
Speckalsame with main_source_Sources18:04
Speckalapt-get does report a "Hit" on ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release, jaunty/main Packages, and jaunty/main Sources18:05
Speckali'm stumped :/18:05
likemindeadWas there a public key? If so, did you authenticate?18:07
Speckalyes I did18:08
likemindeadStrange.18:08
likemindeadMaybe their server is down. :-\18:08
Speckali'm browsing the server via http right now18:09
Speckal....18:11
Speckaldamn18:11
Speckalthe package files on the server are actually empty18:11
Speckalwell that answers that :/18:11
taraniwhat're you working on speckal?18:12
likemindead"<Speckal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/277556    how can I get the updated open-vm-tools package that was mentioned in this thread?"18:12
Speckalya18:12
Speckalgetting an updated (patched) version of open-vm-tools from a PPA. according to a launchpad thread, it is supposed to resolve build errors on jaunty and fix a few other things18:13
likemindeadBut the files are M.I.A. :(18:13
tarani:/18:13
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plazmacrowis there any way to enable an 60sec shutdown timer on the logoff screen of xfce (like gnome/kde)?19:14
knomeplazmacrow, xfce uses gdm as does gnome19:15
plazmacrowknome, I am using slim at the moment, make this the difference?19:18
knomeplazmacrow, yep.19:18
plazmacrowOkay, than I will try switching back to gdm19:19
plazmacrowokay, gdm is running now - but the 60sec countdown does'nt appear. any ideas?19:39
knomeplazmacrow, try running 'gdmsetup' and checking your settings19:40
plazmacrowI can't find any option to enable the countdown. I unfortunately have a very low screen resolution and so some parts of the dialog where cut off.19:50
likemindeadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t771WaoJNVw20:12
likemindead...wrong window. Sorry.20:12
miguelonnnnnhi sry20:35
miguelonnnnni was out20:35
miguelonnnnnand couldn't answer, finally i fifty fifity have the usb modem installed20:36
miguelonnnnnis there anybody here now? I got one new question, i made my usb installer dumping the xubuntu lived to it and messing a little with syslinux. Now i can install and boot live off usb, but i'm curious if (given that cd's can't self write on themselves) booting live my usb will let me save files into it, and if i save those files, when installing from that usb will i get a clean copy or with those files on it20:38
likemindeadIt is possible to have a recursive Live USB. Try the Pendrive Linux folks.20:39
likemindeadhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/20:39
likemindeadLots there.20:39
likemindeadA "persistent install" is what you're wanting.20:40
miguelonnnnnwhat you mean bout recursive likemindead ?20:41
likemindeadPersistent.20:41
miguelonnnnnahh nice i kind of get what you mean, persisten in the sense that "what you get, remains there after shutdown" right?20:42
likemindeadRight.20:42
miguelonnnnnso this one isn't persistent?20:42
miguelonnnnnwhat i did is mounting the xubuntu iso cd, dump it to the usb formatted as fat32, then mess a littlle with syslinux to make it bootable, and that's all i did20:42
likemindeadNo. You have to make it that way.20:42
likemindeadhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-7-flash-drive-creation-windows/\20:43
likemindeadErr...20:43
likemindeadhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-7-flash-drive-creation-windows/20:43
likemindeadThere. Example.20:43
miguelonnnnnok. Would it be really hard to say what's the difference? cause i like to learn how linux works, and it'd be great if i know how to change this from my actual usb copy to make it persistent20:43
likemindeadOver my head. I'm mostly a n00b. ;)20:44
miguelonnnnnhaha ok me too :P20:44
miguelonnnnnwell, thanks likemindead , now i'm having dinner (i'm spanish here it's 22.00). See you soon and many thanks bye20:45
taranican anyone direct me to a good website to help with the linux learning curve?21:21
taraniparticularly software development21:21
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