[02:39] <jorge_> please help
[02:40] <jorge_> how do i know if my video is working right?
[02:42] <jorge_> anyone??
[02:42] <jorge_> please!
[02:44] <jorge_> how do i know if my video is working right?
[02:53] <anom01y> jorg
[04:28] <tarani> hello, everyone
[04:28] <tarani> i need some help...
[04:28] <tarani> i just installed xubuntu and i cannot access root
[04:31] <tarani> kk nvm, i found a solution
[08:06] <Techie> i need help spoofing a headless server into thinking theres a screen attatched
[08:09] <TheSheep> what for?
[08:10] <Techie> x11vnc
[08:10] <Techie> im running a server in xubuntu 9.04 with x11vnc set to load at logon
[08:10] <Techie> with an autologon
[08:11] <Techie> this allows me to bypass all the trouble of setting up correct authorities for a new X session for aq vnc
[08:11] <Techie> a*
[08:11] <Techie> but X wont start without a screen attatched
[08:12] <Techie> and please dont go on about running a display on a server, i usually dont
[08:14] <TheSheep> can't you just ssh -XY to your server and run X apps from there, using your local X for display?
[08:15] <Techie> yes and no
[08:15] <Techie> i could, but i could be accessing it from any OS
[08:16] <Techie> and the other thing is that ive never been able to get X11 forwarding working
[08:18] <Techie> do you know if X has an IRC channel anywhere?
[08:26] <_Pete_> Techie: X by default has that feature disabled now adays
[08:26] <_Pete_> so you have to drop privileges to it work
[08:26] <_Pete_> but as TheSheep said ssh is safer/better way
[08:27] <Techie> im not exactly looking for safe
[08:28] <Techie> its a box running @ my school and tbh theres only a handful of people there that would even know what a VNC connection is
[08:29] <_Pete_> if it's on public network
[08:29] <_Pete_> handful is enough
[08:29] <Techie> let me rephrase that
[08:29] <Techie> the only people that would know what a VNC connection is, are my mates
[08:30] <_Pete_> Techie: hmm?
[08:30] <_Pete_> is the machine only accesible from local network, not from internet?
[08:30] <Techie> yep
[08:30] <_Pete_> which one?
[08:31] <Techie> local
[08:31] <jim_p> hello people!
[08:31] <Techie> plus admin would throw a shit if he caught me setting it up for external access
[08:32] <_Pete_> Techie: try freenx
[08:32] <Techie> i tried that
[08:32] <Techie> could never get ti working though
[08:32] <jim_p> i need some help with xfce 4.6 "management". a) how can i edit the main menu? i want to remove some useless entries like conky
[08:33] <_Pete_> Techie: it didnt work ?
[08:33] <Techie> i wouldnt mind using the windows RDP protocol as that allows you to run apps with sound, but i cant find a server for it
[08:33] <Techie> nope, it didnt work
[08:33] <Techie> well, it did work... but not as it was supposed to
[08:33] <_Pete_> ok, what do you suppose from that then ?
[08:34] <Techie> that i didnt have it configured right, but i didnt have the time to sit there for days to figure out what was wrong
[08:35] <_Pete_> Techie: hmm, I have only tested it so that remote has X/desktop installed
[08:35] <_Pete_> and works well even remote has no X
[08:35] <TheSheep> jim_p: you copy apropriate file from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications and edit it with a text editor
[08:36] <jim_p> TheSheep: give me a sec to have a look
[08:36] <TheSheep> jim_p: to hide an entry, add 'hide=True' to it
[08:36] <TheSheep> or was it hidden=True? can't rememeber
[08:36] <Techie> know of any really good simple guides to setting up X forwarding
[08:37] <jim_p> TheSheep: /usr/share/applications is a folder! and i dont want to hide an app, i want to hide a submenu altogether (20+ apps)
[08:41] <TheSheep> the submenu hides when all apps in it are hidden
[08:42] <jim_p> yea but i cant set 20+ apps to hidden!
[08:45] <TheSheep> what's stopping you?
[08:45] <TheSheep> by the way, if you want to remove those applications, use synaptic to uninstall them
[08:49] <jim_p> TheSheep: i dont want to remove conky for instance! i just dont want it in my menus
[09:12] <Techie> _Pete_, how can i enable X forwarding in X?
[09:13] <_Pete_> Techie: dont know
[09:13] <_Pete_> seek from man X
[09:13] <_Pete_> anyway it's very unwise to do
[09:13] <_Pete_> even on localnetwork
[09:14] <Techie> aye aye aye, i hate man pages
[09:14] <_Pete_> I too
[09:14] <Techie> why is it unwise to do?
[09:14] <Techie> all traffic is encrypted inside SSH2
[09:15] <_Pete_> have been thinking there must be a course how to write those in a manner nobody will understand
[09:15] <Techie> more than a course, i reckon they genetically enchance people to be able to do it
[09:15] <_Pete_> ;D
[09:16] <_Pete_> Techie: if that's your case
[09:16] <_Pete_> ..
[09:16] <_Pete_> what exactly is yourcase ?
[09:16] <Techie> my case is getting some form of graphical output from my server box at school
[09:16] <Techie> mainly for selecting music to stream
[09:17] <Techie> and sharing videos
[09:17] <_Pete_> and why do you need gfx for that in first place ?
[09:17] <Techie> because it makes searching a mp3 library much easier
[09:17] <_Pete_> how so?
[09:18] <Techie> you ever tried searching through 8 gig of mp3 files when theyre not all named correctly
[09:18] <_Pete_> yes
[09:18] <Techie> done it in a CLI?
[09:18] <_Pete_> yes
[09:18] <Techie> how so?
[09:18] <_Pete_> petria@quadcore:~/pub/Muzik$ du -h
[09:19] <_Pete_> 230G
[09:19] <Techie> nice collection
[09:19] <_Pete_> usually
[09:19] <_Pete_> find somethng | grep other
[09:19] <_Pete_> does the trick
[09:20] <Techie> if i didnt have to check id3 tags then grep would do fine on its own
[09:20] <_Pete_> I guess there's cli tool to get those also
[09:20] <_Pete_> and so include in cli search
[09:21] <Techie> mwah ha ha there so kick in the bad thing about my school
[09:21] <Techie> they run an ISA internet proxy which i dont have the password to
[09:22] <Techie> so im unable to retrieve files from aptitude or install dependencies easily
[09:23] <_Pete_> where is your school ?
[09:23] <Techie> new zealand
[09:24] <_Pete_> hmm
[09:24] <_Pete_> you know usual things to get around that ?
[09:24] <Techie> yes and no
[09:24] <Techie> i could tunnel through it
[09:24] <_Pete_> ssh is good :)
[09:24] <Techie> yeah
[09:24] <Techie> one problem
[09:25] <Techie> it wont allow anything onther than http or https packets through
[09:25] <_Pete_> your school proxy/firewall ?
[09:25] <Techie> bit of both
[09:25] <_Pete_> right
[09:25] <Techie> it acts as a socks proxy
[09:25] <_Pete_> but still ssh works ?
[09:25] <Techie> nope
[09:26] <Techie> but it also stops any non http traffic, incoming and outgoing
[09:26] <_Pete_> well if you are hackis enough
[09:26] <Techie> i could tunnel ssh through http past it, but i dont know the password and have yet to find a client that will use the settings from internet exploder
[09:27] <_Pete_> yes
[09:27] <_Pete_> If I were you would change school
[09:27] <Techie> not an option
[09:27] <_Pete_> much easier than hakcking
[09:27] <Techie> its my last year
[09:27] <Techie> pfff
[09:27] <Techie> hacking windows boxes and networks is easy
[09:28] <_Pete_> and pointless
[09:28] <Techie> yep
[09:28] <Techie> i have the administrator password, and have had it for years
[09:28] <_Pete_> how can you irc then ?
[09:28] <Techie> its almost useless though
[09:28] <Techie> im not at school
[09:28] <Techie> its 8:28 PM
[09:28] <_Pete_> right
[09:28] <Techie> +12 hours GMT
[09:29] <_Pete_> does it give any help if I let you account on here ?
[09:29] <Techie> nope
[09:29] <Techie> i have many boxes that i can access
[09:29] <Techie> i have 2 in australia
[09:29] <Techie> one in the US i think
[09:30] <Techie> and hopefully one locally soon
[09:30] <Techie> once my mate configures his router again
[09:48] <Techie> man, im gettign such a slow connection
[10:03] <Techie_> well that was a success and a failure
[11:06] <ubuntu> hello
[11:07] <ubuntu> i'm installing xubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso and got this error at 94%: "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error."
[11:07] <ubuntu> any idea how to fix this?
[11:08] <ubuntu> i've tried like 6 times and keep getting the same error
[13:04] <jiohdi> I have three programs that appear on start up, how do I keep that from happening?
[13:07] <TheSheep> system->autostarted applications
[13:07] <TheSheep> or was that in settings?
[13:08] <jiohdi> its not in autostart
[13:09] <jiohdi> and I dont find any other settings that would have it
[13:09] <TheSheep> maybe you saved them with session when you logged out last time?
[13:13] <jiohdi> they would have to have been saved a long time ago, every log out since has not had them running
[13:13] <jiohdi> but if I did save them somehow, how do I unsave them?
[13:15] <TheSheep> jiohdi: you can delete the files in ~/.cache/session
[13:18] <jiohdi> TheSheep, ok, rebooting to see if it works
[13:24] <thejayjetson> unable to play YouTube videos-tried many things-can anyone help?
[13:25] <Sysi> xubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:25] <thejayjetson> yes
[13:26] <thejayjetson> Running Xubuntu 9.04 on PS3
[13:26] <thejayjetson> would you like to see the command(s) I was given and the result from the terminal most recently?
[13:27] <Sysi> dunno, that ps3 is rather special, at lest to me
[13:27] <knome> thejayjetson, still no luck at #ubuntu-ps3 ?
[13:27] <thejayjetson> never any luck-i can't believe someone if even on this line
[13:28] <thejayjetson> I really wish I would have never installed Xubuntu cause now I feel I have to made it work when I should just really forget about it
[13:29] <marcPV> hi there
[13:30] <knome> !hi | marcPV
[13:30] <marcPV> thanks! I want to know how to unable the click on the pad (sorry for my english)
[13:31] <thejayjetson> did you try taking the batteries out?
[13:33] <marcPV> I mean the touchpad, I only want it to move cursor, not to do click
[13:33] <marcPV> I want to do click only with buttons
[13:33] <Sysi> settings -> mouse?
[13:34] <Sysi> hmm, seems not
[13:34] <SiDi> !shmconfig
[13:34] <SiDi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[13:34] <marcPV> what is shmconfig?
[13:35] <marcPV> let me check that page, anyway I am a rookie on xubuntu so
[13:35] <marcPV> i hope its not difficult
[13:36] <SiDi> Its not
[13:37] <SiDi> You have to enable SHMConfig (see above), then you can use touchfreeze to disable the touchpad click while typing, and gsynaptics to configure your touchpad
[13:39] <marcPV> ok, thanks very much, I will try to enable that...
[13:40] <SiDi> let me know if anything goes wrong ;
[13:43] <marcPV> i see there are instructions for gnome and kde here, but not for xfce... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[13:45] <marcPV> (I also use Ubuntu on other laptop, and it's easy to enable touchpad clicks... sad)
[13:45] <Sysi> gnome is easy and xfce is light
[13:46] <Sysi> not big differences nowdays, but slihtly
[13:47] <marcPV> anyway, I may say that xfce works fine... in fact, it works on this 256mb laptop and gnome just don't
[13:48] <Sysi> i've had exatly same
[13:49] <Sysi> but i like xfce so much that i have it on with 2gb ram too
[13:49] <marcPV> Wow, it may fly
[13:49] <Sysi> pretty much
[13:49] <knome> i have 4GB of ram and xubuntu.
[13:50] <Sysi> but i think it's simple and easy to configure etc.
[13:50] <knome> after about 1GB, you don't really notice the speed difference between gnome and xfce, if you don't run lots of stuff
[13:50] <marcPV> i fact, i think xcfe works better on wireless network
[13:51] <Sysi> gnome is bugsy for me
[13:52] <marcPV> by the way, any idea of what line i have to type here for xubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[13:54] <marcPV> it's not really important but I hate to do accidental clicks on the touchpad
[13:59] <SiDi> knome: xfce is snappier !
[14:00] <SiDi> marcPV: things that work for ubuntu work for xubuntu too
[14:00] <knome> meh
[14:00]  * knome opens the next bottle
[14:00] <SiDi> gksudo mousepad /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi
[14:01] <marcPV> ok, the gnome line then, thanks SiDi! Let me try...
[14:01] <marcPV> ;)
[14:04] <marcPV> sorry, nothing happens when i type that in a terminal. It ask me for permission, then nothing.
[14:05] <SiDi> you dont have gedit, i suppose :)
[14:05] <SiDi> try the line there
[14:05] <SiDi> gksudo mousepad /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi
[14:05] <SiDi> gksudo is for executing an application with the administrator rights
[14:05] <SiDi> gedit / kate / mousepad are text editors
[14:05] <marcPV> oh, ok, thanks
[14:05] <SiDi>  /etc/hal/.... is the path to the file to edit
[14:06] <marcPV> ok, learning... mousepad works
[14:06] <marcPV> ;)
[14:07] <SiDi> So here, you're asked to add some text to a configuration file that will tell X.org (the graphical server that launches the graphics and mouse drivers and that is used on Linux) to launch the Synaptics drivers for your touchpad
[14:07] <SiDi> then utilities like gsynaptics can be used to edit the properties of your touchpad, now that the drivers are enabled
[14:07] <SiDi> And i need a coffee.
[14:08] <marcPV> lol, ok, go get that coffee
[14:08] <knome> coffee? neh
[14:09] <marcPV> I have to restart now, I'll be back... I mean, if my laptop don't crash
[14:09] <SiDi> its too late for coffee, i need to go soon
[14:10] <Sysi> it's fun here where are people from so different places
[14:11] <marcPV> thanks a lot, by the way
[14:11] <SiDi> Many finnish people ! *points at knome*
[14:11]  * knome hides behind his beer mug
[14:11]  * SiDi wants a beer too
[14:11] <SiDi> Why do you ALWAYS have beer with you ? T_T
[14:11] <knome> get one then
[14:12] <knome> well i just went to buy some :P
[14:12] <knome> rochefort 8, a trappist
[14:31] <marcPV> hi again
[14:32] <marcPV> I installed gsynaptics but now i can't find it... weird
[14:33] <marcPV> any idea?
[14:33] <Sysi> run on terminal
[14:34] <marcPV> how?
[14:35] <Sysi> write gsynaptics and press enter
[14:35] <Sysi> or use alt + f2
[14:36] <marcPV> ok, thanks, but it's weird isn't it?
[14:36] <Sysi> maybe not
[14:37] <marcPV> ok, great! At last! I disable the touchpad click, I'm happy now! ;)
[15:09] <Sysi> does .xmodmap work in current xfce?
[15:11] <Sysi> i wonder if it's problem of fedora or xfce
[15:14] <Sysi> ah, in fedora it need to be in other folder
[16:34] <Speckal> i want to use the latest package for 9.04 that is discussed in this thread, but I'm not sure how to go about getting it (the "right" way). help please :)    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/277556
[16:37] <miguelonnnn> hiiiiii
[16:37] <miguelonnnn> please i got a problem with ethrnet, i can't connect
[16:37] <miguelonnnn> i plug the ethernet cable and set network connections to dhcp automtic but it doesn't configure
 hmph, you can try fire up the terminal. "sudo dhclient eth0"
[17:03] <Speckal> how do I see the list of packages a specific source provides?
[17:03] <cody-somerville> look on packages.ubuntu.com
[17:47] <Speckal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/277556    how can I get the updated open-vm-tools package that was mentioned in this thread?
[17:59] <likemindead> Is there a PPA?
[17:59] <likemindead> That's how I usually get the most recent packages of something I really like.
[18:02] <Speckal> yes there is
[18:03] <Speckal> the address (I believe) is http://ppa.launchpad.net/grexk/ubuntu-dev/ubuntu
[18:03] <Speckal> i have added that to my sources, both deb and deb-src
[18:04] <Speckal> the package lists come back empty.  cat /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_grexk_ubuntu-dev_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_main_binary-i386_Packages is zero bytes
[18:04] <Speckal> same with main_source_Sources
[18:05] <Speckal> apt-get does report a "Hit" on ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release, jaunty/main Packages, and jaunty/main Sources
[18:05] <Speckal> i'm stumped :/
[18:07] <likemindead> Was there a public key? If so, did you authenticate?
[18:08] <Speckal> yes I did
[18:08] <likemindead> Strange.
[18:08] <likemindead> Maybe their server is down. :-\
[18:09] <Speckal> i'm browsing the server via http right now
[18:11] <Speckal> ....
[18:11] <Speckal> damn
[18:11] <Speckal> the package files on the server are actually empty
[18:11] <Speckal> well that answers that :/
[18:12] <tarani> what're you working on speckal?
[18:12] <likemindead> "<Speckal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/277556    how can I get the updated open-vm-tools package that was mentioned in this thread?"
[18:12] <Speckal> ya
[18:13] <Speckal> getting an updated (patched) version of open-vm-tools from a PPA. according to a launchpad thread, it is supposed to resolve build errors on jaunty and fix a few other things
[18:13] <likemindead> But the files are M.I.A. :(
[18:13] <tarani> :/
[19:14] <plazmacrow> is there any way to enable an 60sec shutdown timer on the logoff screen of xfce (like gnome/kde)?
[19:15] <knome> plazmacrow, xfce uses gdm as does gnome
[19:18] <plazmacrow> knome, I am using slim at the moment, make this the difference?
[19:18] <knome> plazmacrow, yep.
[19:19] <plazmacrow> Okay, than I will try switching back to gdm
[19:39] <plazmacrow> okay, gdm is running now - but the 60sec countdown does'nt appear. any ideas?
[19:40] <knome> plazmacrow, try running 'gdmsetup' and checking your settings
[19:50] <plazmacrow> I can't find any option to enable the countdown. I unfortunately have a very low screen resolution and so some parts of the dialog where cut off.
[20:12] <likemindead> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t771WaoJNVw
[20:12] <likemindead> ...wrong window. Sorry.
[20:35] <miguelonnnnn> hi sry
[20:35] <miguelonnnnn> i was out
[20:36] <miguelonnnnn> and couldn't answer, finally i fifty fifity have the usb modem installed
[20:38] <miguelonnnnn> is there anybody here now? I got one new question, i made my usb installer dumping the xubuntu lived to it and messing a little with syslinux. Now i can install and boot live off usb, but i'm curious if (given that cd's can't self write on themselves) booting live my usb will let me save files into it, and if i save those files, when installing from that usb will i get a clean copy or with those files on it
[20:39] <likemindead> It is possible to have a recursive Live USB. Try the Pendrive Linux folks.
[20:39] <likemindead> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[20:39] <likemindead> Lots there.
[20:40] <likemindead> A "persistent install" is what you're wanting.
[20:41] <miguelonnnnn> what you mean bout recursive likemindead ?
[20:41] <likemindead> Persistent.
[20:42] <miguelonnnnn> ahh nice i kind of get what you mean, persisten in the sense that "what you get, remains there after shutdown" right?
[20:42] <likemindead> Right.
[20:42] <miguelonnnnn> so this one isn't persistent?
[20:42] <miguelonnnnn> what i did is mounting the xubuntu iso cd, dump it to the usb formatted as fat32, then mess a littlle with syslinux to make it bootable, and that's all i did
[20:42] <likemindead> No. You have to make it that way.
[20:43] <likemindead> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-7-flash-drive-creation-windows/\
[20:43] <likemindead> Err...
[20:43] <likemindead> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-7-flash-drive-creation-windows/
[20:43] <likemindead> There. Example.
[20:43] <miguelonnnnn> ok. Would it be really hard to say what's the difference? cause i like to learn how linux works, and it'd be great if i know how to change this from my actual usb copy to make it persistent
[20:44] <likemindead> Over my head. I'm mostly a n00b. ;)
[20:44] <miguelonnnnn> haha ok me too :P
[20:45] <miguelonnnnn> well, thanks likemindead , now i'm having dinner (i'm spanish here it's 22.00). See you soon and many thanks bye
[21:21] <tarani> can anyone direct me to a good website to help with the linux learning curve?
[21:21] <tarani> particularly software development