| igc | moldy: where did the branches come from? | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| igc | moldy: iiuic, no common ancestor implies they have no history in common | 00:02 |
| moldy | igc: they come from a converted svn repository | 00:07 |
| igc | moldy: converted via bzr-svn or bzr-fastimport? | 00:08 |
| moldy | igc: bzr-svn | 00:08 |
| igc | moldy: I don't know much about bzr-svn sorry | 00:09 |
| igc | jelmer: still around today? | 00:09 |
| moldy | igc: as a last resort, i could manually create another branch off of branch a, apply the differences to branch b, and use that one as the new branch b (i don't desperately need all the history), but i am wondering if there is a better way | 00:09 |
| igc | moldy: see if jelmer or anyone else has a better idea first | 00:09 |
| igc | moldy: if not, that sounds ok to me | 00:10 |
| === Noldorin_ is now known as Noldorin | ||
| lifeless | moldy: were the branches in the svn repo created by doing 'cp', or by separate imports? | 00:19 |
| moldy | lifeless: i have no idea :) | 00:20 |
| moldy | lifeless: hm, now that i thinj about it, probably by "cp", but i cannot vouch for it :) | 00:20 |
| lifeless | if they were, I would expect bzr-svn to have joined them | 00:21 |
| lifeless | uhm, I suggest filing a bug on bzr-svn, if they have common ancestry in svn | 00:21 |
| moldy | hm, they have common history in svn | 00:22 |
| moldy | i ran bzr-svn on the whole repository | 00:23 |
| S11001001 | is it kosher to use 2a repo format for all new repos if you only care about 1.17+ support? | 00:24 |
| moldy | but i also changed the layout a bit, so i joined stuff into the branches that had their own svn modules before, maybe that was the problem | 00:24 |
| lifeless | S11001001: yes, thats fine. | 00:34 |
| lifeless | 2a is usable [but not ideal] from 1.16 on | 00:34 |
| lifeless | S11001001: we will be strongly recommending 2.0 and above everywhere | 00:34 |
| bob2 | probably silly question, but was the 2a upgrade issue fixed before trunk switched? | 00:40 |
| === thumper-afk is now known as thumper | ||
| poolie | igc, hi | 01:08 |
| igc | hi poolie | 01:08 |
| poolie | so if putting sphinx onto hardy is hard, um | 01:08 |
| SamB | dangit, bzr help needs some sort of close-match spell checking when the edit distance is just a few characters between the user entry and what they actually wanted help on ... | 01:09 |
| poolie | SamB: i don't think bzr-guess does this but it would be an easy extension | 01:09 |
| SamB | say, "help revision-specs" instead of "help revisionspec" | 01:09 |
| SamB | poolie: heck, I think this is important enough to be in core! | 01:09 |
| poolie | igc, did it turn out you can't run it from source | 01:09 |
| igc | poolie: yet to try | 01:10 |
| SamB | especially for the non-command topics | 01:10 |
| SamB | which have rather arbitrary names | 01:10 |
| igc | poolie: I might get to it today | 01:10 |
| poolie | i just wondered | 01:10 |
| igc | polie: need to upgrade to 2a first | 01:10 |
| poolie | the issues lamont mentions may block it running from source too | 01:10 |
| poolie | in which case we might | 01:10 |
| igc | poolie: maybe | 01:10 |
| poolie | hm, i guess we could ask for a karmic chroot there | 01:10 |
| igc | poolie: let me try from source first | 01:11 |
| igc | poolie: karmic may be out before they get to it either way :-( | 01:12 |
| poolie | igc, from recent mail it looks like karmic may not be LTS | 01:12 |
| igc | poolie: I thought 10.4 was LTS | 01:13 |
| poolie | you also get into the problem that slightly exotic server hardware may not be supported by newer kernels | 01:13 |
| poolie | at least i think i recall that happening in going to hardy | 01:13 |
| poolie | right but karmic is not 10.4 | 01:13 |
| poolie | it will be 9.10 | 01:13 |
| igc | right | 01:13 |
| SamB | hmm ... my "bzr log" is silly and only looks in the current branch for revisions even when they're in the same repo, it seems :-( | 01:14 |
| poolie | so the earliest they'll probably want to upgrade the base os there is may 2010 | 01:14 |
| lamont | poolie: it shouldn't be _hard_ to put sphinx in hardy | 01:19 |
| lamont | it just needs to not be self-build-depending... | 01:20 |
| lamont | for a round | 01:20 |
| poolie | i'm not sure what that means | 01:20 |
| poolie | is it getting rid of the circular dependency? | 01:20 |
| fullermd | SamB: Well, if they're not in the current branch, it's tough to get the revno... | 01:20 |
| SamB | bah! | 01:21 |
| lamont | poolie: I expect that the reason jinja2 build-depends sphinx is for its own docs? is it possible to strip the sphinx-needs from jinja enough to build and have it work enough to build sphinx enough to build jinja-with-sphinx to build sphinx-with-full-jinja? | 01:21 |
| SamB | why can't it just skip that? | 01:21 |
| fullermd | I think the typical answer to things like that is "because your patch for it hasn't been merged' :p | 01:21 |
| poolie | lamont: i expect that's true too, and that it is possible | 01:21 |
| SamB | or at least give a less scary-looking error that explains what went wrong a bit better ... | 01:22 |
| poolie | but i haven't looked at the source at all | 01:22 |
| lamont | poolie: it has to be.. it's just a question of how far back in history one has to go | 01:22 |
| fullermd | (note that the error you get is a NoSuchRevision, but it doesn't come from looking up the rev, it comes from branch.revision_id_to_dotted_revno() | 01:22 |
| poolie | oh, because it was not circular at the time it originally went into debian or ubuntu? | 01:22 |
| SamB | of course, I'm on an old build atm because I was hoping to figure out how to look at the changelog ... | 01:22 |
| poolie | Samb, i agree, file or dupe a bug | 01:22 |
| lamont | I admit I haven't been watching, but I expect that the decision on next-LTS won't be made until at least the next UDS, so it'll either be 10.04 or 10.10 | 01:22 |
| igc | hi sidnei | 01:24 |
| sidnei | igc: oi | 01:25 |
| igc | sidnei: a questions fro you ... | 01:25 |
| lifeless | circular deps are sadness | 01:25 |
| sidnei | igc: shoot | 01:25 |
| igc | can I use/test the buildout stuff on linux | 01:25 |
| igc | I'm thinking of getting the image right ... | 01:25 |
| poolie | lifeless: did you see bialix's comments about 'apport's dependencies are so hard on windows'? | 01:25 |
| igc | then worrying about how the installer does something with it | 01:26 |
| lifeless | poolie: yes | 01:26 |
| lamont | poolie: and the real issue is that it needs a file that isn't even delivered by python in hardy... :( | 01:26 |
| lifeless | jml: poolie: 12 for lunch? | 01:27 |
| sidnei | igc: uhm. if i recall correctly, you should be able to run bootstrap.py then bin/buildout on linux | 01:27 |
| sidnei | igc: but after that it invokes a batch file | 01:27 |
| poolie | lifeless: sure, where? | 01:27 |
| lifeless | you had two restaurants you wanted to revisit | 01:28 |
| lifeless | so lets hunt down the second | 01:28 |
| poolie | wfm, i think you'll like it | 01:28 |
| sidnei | igc: that won't give you much other than fetching the dependencies though | 01:28 |
| === thumper is now known as thumper-fud | ||
| igc | sidnei: and do you know how it packages python, qt and pyqt? | 01:28 |
| sidnei | igc: pyqt needs to be installed manually using the .exe installer into your global python interpreter, and so does a few other dependencies. | 01:29 |
| igc | sidnei: my xp partition is only a few G so I want to do as much work as I can elsewhere | 01:29 |
| sidnei | igc: and finally it uses py2exe which is basically black magic to me to pull all the dlls and dependent libs into library.zip | 01:30 |
| igc | sidnei: ah - so the qt stuff ends up in there? | 01:30 |
| sidnei | igc: i'm pretty confident that it does. haven't paid close attention. | 01:31 |
| sidnei | igc: the final step is just packaging it up with innosetup | 01:31 |
| igc | sidnei: and that's the bit I had planned to improve but ... | 01:31 |
| igc | it seems that's about 10% of the job | 01:31 |
| sidnei | igc: correct | 01:32 |
| igc | vs gathering everything, compiling it, etc. | 01:32 |
| SamB | jelmer: how come bzr-rebase is so outdated? | 01:32 |
| igc | sidnei: so adding more plugins basically comes down to editing the buildout.cfg file and build-installer.bat.in file right? | 01:33 |
| sidnei | igc: yes | 01:33 |
| igc | sidnei: I don't want to install cygwin. I have make installed. Does that sound ok? | 01:35 |
| sidnei | igc: yup, that's how i have it here | 01:35 |
| sidnei | igc: i actually install cygwin but don't use bash. i only put c:\cygwin\bin in %PATH% | 01:35 |
| sidnei | igc: i believe that a different way of achieving what you wanted would be to not use py2exe, but instead build a custom python install | 01:37 |
| sidnei | igc: i have code for doing that which we could possibly borrow | 01:37 |
| sidnei | igc: in fact, i think that would make things a lot easier for everyone including people building plugins | 01:38 |
| igc | bbiab | 01:38 |
| sidnei | me too. *wink* | 01:39 |
| jelmer | SamB: outdated in what sense? | 01:40 |
| jelmer | SamB_XP: outdated in what sense? | 01:46 |
| lifeless | poolie: so where should I meet thou? | 01:50 |
| AfC | lifeless: ping? [personal] | 01:50 |
| lifeless | spm: procedure change: | 01:54 |
| lifeless | new pqm branches need: | 01:55 |
| lifeless | - bzr-core set as reviewer | 01:55 |
| lifeless | - bzr-core subscribed to the branch | 01:55 |
| lifeless | because *reviewers are not notified* | 01:55 |
| spm | lifeless: oki; will add to docco. I assume the new branch we did last night needs this asap? | 01:56 |
| lifeless | done it | 01:56 |
| spm | awesome, ta. | 01:56 |
| lifeless | for 2.0 and bzr.dev | 01:56 |
| lifeless | only cause I'm in bzr-core and can thus do it | 01:56 |
| spm | :-) | 01:56 |
| spm | so..... what I'm hearing is you've got the tools to do this yourself; therefore our update needs are minimised? :-P | 01:57 |
| * spm looks forward in great anticipation to the response to that unsubtle troll | 01:58 | |
| poolie | lifeless: i guess here | 02:01 |
| lifeless | poolie: ok, I'll drift your way | 02:02 |
| lifeless | jml: ^ | 02:02 |
| jml | lifeless, I just got off the phone :) | 02:18 |
| jml | poolie, I'll probably be a little later than 12 | 02:18 |
| poolie | np | 02:22 |
| === thumper-fud is now known as thumper | ||
| === sidnei is now known as sidnei-away | ||
| moldy | bzr does not work directly over ssh, without a bzr server? | 02:58 |
| spiv | moldy: you can use sftp | 02:59 |
| spiv | moldy: but having bzr installed on the remote side and using bzr+ssh will be faster. | 03:00 |
| moldy | spiv: is it enough to have bzr installed, or do i need to have a server running? | 03:00 |
| spiv | It simply needs to be installed. | 03:01 |
| moldy | hm, does not seem to work for me | 03:01 |
| spiv | (And on PATH) | 03:01 |
| moldy | which bzr versions are compatible? | 03:02 |
| spiv | Does "ssh yourhost bzr --version" work? | 03:02 |
| moldy | yes | 03:02 |
| spiv | Basically all of them. | 03:02 |
| spiv | What specifically does "not seem to work" mean? | 03:02 |
| moldy | well, i have 1.15.1 against 0.11.0 | 03:02 |
| spiv | Oh, ok. | 03:02 |
| moldy | Server does not understand Bazaar network protocol 3, reconnecting. (Upgrade the server to avoid this.) | 03:03 |
| spiv | 0.11 is pretty ancient, probably 1.15.1 won't work with that. | 03:03 |
| moldy | Server does not understand Bazaar network protocol 2, reconnecting. (Upgrade the server to avoid this.) | 03:03 |
| moldy | bzr: ERROR: Generic bzr smart protocol error: Server is not a Bazaar server: Received bad protocol version marker: "error\x01Generic bzr smart protocol error: bad request u'bzr request 2'\ | 03:03 |
| spiv | 0.11 was the very first version to have any sort of "bzr serve" support. | 03:03 |
| spiv | And it was basically just a glorified sftp, you may as well just use sftp :) | 03:03 |
| moldy | unfortunately, sftp doesn't work either :) | 03:03 |
| spiv | Oh? | 03:03 |
| spiv | That's pretty weird. | 03:04 |
| spiv | The error message is correct though, that upgrading the bzr on the server would fix your problem. | 03:04 |
| moldy | i think i will look for a backport of a more recent bzr version to debian etch | 03:04 |
| spiv | It's very unusual for sftp not to work. Is that an intentional server configuration I wonder? | 03:05 |
| spiv | (0.11 is almost 3 years old, btw) | 03:06 |
| moldy | might be that my local bzr is broken, sftp itself works | 03:06 |
| spiv | What error do you get? | 03:06 |
| moldy | ah, it seems to be related to the svn plugin | 03:07 |
| moldy | i'm not sure why it uses that plugin when trying sftp, though | 03:07 |
| spiv | Ah. You can try "bzr --no-plugins ..." | 03:07 |
| poolie | hello spiv | 03:10 |
| poolie | igc, did you file a bug or talk to someone about packaging explorer on ubuntu? | 03:11 |
| poolie | it'd be nice to have it | 03:11 |
| moldy | spm: thanks for your help. with a recent bzr on the remote side, it works | 03:12 |
| spiv | moldy: great! | 03:12 |
| spiv | poolie: good afternoon | 03:12 |
| poolie | oh so it is | 03:13 |
| poolie | how's stuff? | 03:13 |
| spiv | Well, my local repo passed "bzr check" so now it's in the throes of upgrade --2a. | 03:13 |
| xnox | Can I unshelve a change from branch a/ onto branch b/ | 03:14 |
| xnox | if it was shelved inside branch a/ | 03:14 |
| spiv | xnox: unshelve in a/ and then do "bzr merge --uncommitted ../a/" in b/ is probably simplest. | 03:14 |
| spiv | Otherwise all I can think of is copying the .bzr/checkout/shelf directory. | 03:15 |
| poolie | would be nice if you could | 03:16 |
| spiv | poolie: and I'm wondering what happened to my merge request yesterday, and wondering what the most painless way to resend it is when I'm in the middle of an upgrade... | 03:17 |
| xnox | spiv: thanks | 03:18 |
| thumper | whoever came up with merge --uncommitted was a genius | 03:18 |
| igc | poolie: it was with james_w I believe - I can't recall raising a bug, only emailing | 03:22 |
| igc | thumper: yes, I use it a lot (and no it wasn't me) | 03:22 |
| xnox | One more questions =) I've started to use bzr-svn to push to an svn repo. Is there a way to remember push login & password? | 04:10 |
| poolie | xnox: in auth.conf i think? | 04:47 |
| xnox | poolie: ok thanks I'll look into that | 04:48 |
| SamB | ... is there a way to commit in the style of "darcs record", which has a slightly better interface than "bzr shelve" to select what to inclue in the patch? | 05:13 |
| S11001001 | SamB: interactive plugin | 05:13 |
| SamB | why does searchiong for "bzr darcs commit" (sans quotes) not seem to help me find that? | 05:14 |
| S11001001 | branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~asabil/bzr-interactive/trunk as interactive into your plugins directory | 05:14 |
| SamB | S11001001: I know how to install a plugin | 05:14 |
| S11001001 | just in case :) | 05:14 |
| SamB | and if I was having trouble finding it now that you told me the name, I would have asked ;-) | 05:14 |
| * igc lunch | 05:16 | |
| S11001001 | take care, because it doesn't work in dumb terminals (like emacs shell) | 05:16 |
| SamB | that's fine | 05:17 |
| SamB | I wasn't really going to use it there | 05:17 |
| SamB | and I don't think darcs really likes that either ;-) | 05:17 |
| S11001001 | I have used it for some time now with darcs just fine | 05:17 |
| S11001001 | also, the hunk finder is more eager in bzr-interactive | 05:17 |
| S11001001 | whereas I think if hunks are separated by 1 line of context in darcs they will be treated separately, this is not so in interactive | 05:18 |
| SamB | oh, really? | 05:18 |
| SamB | doesn't the red highlighting confuse emacs? | 05:18 |
| SamB | S11001001: hmm, I don't remember darcs being that smart | 05:18 |
| S11001001 | what highlighting? | 05:18 |
| SamB | well, usually of either things that darcs didn't get (non-ascii bytes) or a $ to mark the end of a line with trailing whitespace | 05:19 |
| SamB | (instead of the actual byte, it prints a red escape sequence) | 05:19 |
| S11001001 | hmm, possibly I've never recorded any such things | 05:20 |
| SamB | (really annoying when you're writing programs using UTF-8 operators!) | 05:20 |
| SamB | well, I guess it would at worst look just slightly more horrible and less eyecatching than in a real terminal ;-) | 05:21 |
| SamB | ... and of course you can always use the Emacs terminal *emulator* | 05:21 |
| S11001001 | icky, I like moving around my shell history like a text buffer | 05:21 |
| SamB | it can't do that? | 05:21 |
| SamB | aww :-( | 05:21 |
| SamB | well, I guess you'd have to switch modes first if it could | 05:22 |
| SamB | I mean, toggle something | 05:22 |
| SamB | to change the key bindings | 05:22 |
| SamB | so that they wouldn't go to the app | 05:22 |
| spiv | Less than 500 revisions left to upgrade. Oof. | 05:25 |
| * SamB wonders how to get emacs to describe a keymap in an intelligable manner -- wishes it had more types :-( | 05:26 | |
| SamB | S11001001: hmm, needs abit of work ... | 05:29 |
| S11001001 | the developer is open to bundles :) | 05:30 |
| SamB | is it you? | 05:30 |
| SamB | anyway, was just pondering it ;-) | 05:30 |
| S11001001 | not at all, I merely contributed -F support | 05:30 |
| SamB | ah | 05:31 |
| SamB | what's that for? | 05:31 |
| S11001001 | it's supported by built-in commit, just was broken in the wrapper commit that interactive provides | 05:32 |
| SamB | ah | 05:32 |
| SamB | is that the one that takes the commit message from a file? | 05:32 |
| S11001001 | I name my log files ++log in honor of arch | 05:32 |
| SamB | you ... honor ... arch ?!? :-( | 05:33 |
| S11001001 | I liked arch, kept using it until about the time bazaar-ng 1.5 was released | 05:34 |
| spiv | S11001001: and you call temp files ,,foo? :) | 05:36 |
| SamB | I can't like arch | 05:36 |
| S11001001 | just 1 , actually | 05:36 |
| SamB | it has too many damn pointless concepts! | 05:36 |
| spiv | Heh. | 05:36 |
| S11001001 | , is garbage that tla promises not to delete | 05:36 |
| SamB | or, at least, too many damn pointless components in a name | 05:36 |
| spiv | S11001001: <gollum>my precioussss</gollum> | 05:37 |
| S11001001 | well I don't name my log files ++log instead of ++log.myproject--mainline--0.1.scompall@nocandysw.com--2009-ddi for nothing | 05:37 |
| SamB | I guess the thing is that I never tried arch until I was already hooked on darcs for the time being | 05:41 |
| SamB | now I'm not so much hooked on darcs, but still use it as one of my VCS yardsticks | 05:41 |
| S11001001 | I don't think darcs existed back in 2004 | 05:42 |
| SamB | not sure | 05:43 |
| SamB | I don't remember exactly when #haskell got me hooked | 05:43 |
| S11001001 | hmm, actually it seems to have, but I didn't hear about it until 2007 anyway | 05:43 |
| SamB | yeah, I was pretty sure it was older than that ;-) | 05:44 |
| S11001001 | it was the community standard for common lisp projects until recently | 05:44 |
| SamB | darcs? | 05:47 |
| SamB | or arch? | 05:47 |
| S11001001 | darcs | 05:48 |
| SamB | did they start using git too or something? | 05:49 |
| SamB | or git, bzr. & hg too? | 05:49 |
| SamB | oops, s/./,/ | 05:49 |
| S11001001 | git, hg, and svn have all insinuated themselves | 05:49 |
| SamB | what the? | 05:49 |
| SamB | why svn? | 05:49 |
| SamB | ... is it because of google code? | 05:49 |
| S11001001 | bknr.net svn is the new host for Edi Weitz's popular libraries, and clozure (an implementation increasing in popularity) also uses svn for source and binary distribution | 05:50 |
| SamB | oh, is clozure JVM-based? | 05:50 |
| S11001001 | you're thinking of clojure :) | 05:50 |
| SamB | oh. | 05:50 |
| SamB | okay. | 05:50 |
| SamB | I was just trying to find an excuse for brain-deadedness | 05:51 |
| SamB | hmm ... how would I use emacs to search for a line that has $(HIDE) on it and isn't immediately preceded by one with $(SHOW) in it? | 05:51 |
| S11001001 | Clozure was once OpenMCL, but MCL went and changed its license, and Clozure added GNU/Linux and Windows support, then x64 and x86 | 05:52 |
| S11001001 | surprisingly, porting to platforms other than OS X/PPC was a surefire way to increase popularity | 05:53 |
| SamB | no duh | 05:53 |
| SamB | especially with the PPC macs being discontinued | 05:54 |
| SamB | hmm, so they ... added support for PPC Windows before support for x86 anything? | 05:54 |
| SamB | was there even an MS Windows for PPC? | 05:55 |
| S11001001 | it's a little weird, they added linux/x64, then windows/x64, then similarly for the x86 | 05:55 |
| S11001001 | IIRC, porting to the register-starved x86 was harder than amd64 support | 05:56 |
| mneptok | SamB: yes | 05:56 |
| SamB | ... I mean, I know arty in #reactos was working on porting that to PPC, but I forgot about whether there was an MS predecessor ;-) | 05:56 |
| mneptok | SamB: NT 3.5 was released for PPC. there may have been others. | 05:56 |
| mneptok | anyhow, such discussions are not really on-topic for #bzr | 05:57 |
| SamB | mneptok: yeah, but, was anyone asking a bzr question? | 05:58 |
| SamB | oh, I've got one! | 05:58 |
| mneptok | SamB: that's not really the point. | 05:58 |
| SamB | does bzr work on NT 3.5 PPC? | 05:58 |
| mneptok | SamB: walk into a police station at 3am and do a striptease. when they tell you that it's not a strip club, ask "well, was anyone being arrested?!" | 05:59 |
| SamB | mneptok: that's a bit different | 05:59 |
| SamB | I think they'd be arresting you for indecent exposure | 05:59 |
| mneptok | SamB: so please don't risk the same here. | 06:00 |
| SamB | or because they didn't want to see your dick | 06:00 |
| mneptok | SamB: such language *definitely* is not welcome in #bzr | 06:01 |
| SamB | oh, sorry. | 06:01 |
| SamB | should I have said "penis"? | 06:01 |
| mneptok | you should probably keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, rather than open it and remove all doubt. | 06:02 |
| SamB | fine, fine, #haskell-blah, here I come ... | 06:04 |
| SamB | I should be fine there as long as I remember not to talk about Haskell ;-) | 06:04 |
| spiv | jml: regarding your comment about the puller from about 7:30pm yesterday: bug #424136 | 06:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 424136 in launchpad-code "Cannot upgrade stacked branches from 1.9 to 2a on Launchpad" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424136 | 06:24 |
| jml | oh yes? | 06:24 |
| spiv | jml: the problem appears to be that the assumption that "Branch.open" succeeds in tha face of rich-root mismatch in stacked-on/stackee is wrong. | 06:25 |
| * jml tries to parse that for the third time | 06:25 | |
| spiv | jml: stacked-on: just changed from 1.9->2a | 06:25 |
| spiv | jml: my branch: just changed from 1.9->2a the hosted area, still 1.9 in the mirrored area | 06:26 |
| spiv | jml: puller: tries Branch.open(mirrored-my-branch), fails because 1.9 can't stack on 2a because 1.9 and 2a have different rich-root support. | 06:27 |
| spiv | jml: puller therefore gives an error rather than propagating the upgrade that would fix the error. | 06:27 |
| jml | spiv, I see. | 06:27 |
| jml | spiv, so we ought to catch those errors and upgrade as if we detected a format change? | 06:28 |
| spiv | jml: or open in a way that doesn't fail if stacking won't work. | 06:28 |
| jml | spiv, you're bringing back bad memories | 06:28 |
| jml | spiv, is that even possible? | 06:28 |
| spiv | e.g. BzrDir.open(...).open_repository() | 06:28 |
| jml | hmm | 06:28 |
| spiv | (because stacking is configured by the branch) | 06:29 |
| spiv | Or perhaps BzrDir.open(...).open_branch(ignore_fallbacks=True). | 06:29 |
| jml | perhaps. | 06:29 |
| spiv | Or potentially just catch the relevant exception. | 06:29 |
| jml | catching the exception seems like the most robust to me. | 06:29 |
| spiv | bzrlib.errors.IncompatibleRepositories I believe. | 06:30 |
| spiv | Well, not making inspecting the format of object A dependent on details like "A's config says stack on B, but B is not compatible" seems more robust to me :) | 06:31 |
| jml | spiv, yeah, fix bzr | 06:31 |
| jml | spiv, in the meantime the integration team will integrate :) | 06:32 |
| spiv | But I can understand that having a separate "check formats" and "now open it for actual use" phases might be awkward in your code. | 06:32 |
| jml | spiv, we already do something like that... icbw | 06:32 |
| spiv | bzr is working fine: it's refusing to do Branch.open because it can't be opened. | 06:32 |
| * jml actually dials up the code | 06:33 | |
| spiv | The problem is your code says "give me a full branch object with fallbacks and everything" when (at this point) it just wants "give me the branch and repository formats" | 06:33 |
| jml | and what's the bzr API for that? | 06:34 |
| mwhudson | pretty sure there isn't one, or at least wasn't back when we wrote this | 06:35 |
| spiv | the_bzrdir.find_branch_format() / RepositoryFormat.find_format(the_bzrdir) | 06:37 |
| spiv | Or I suppose you could use BranchFormat.find_format(the_bzrdir) for consistency. | 06:38 |
| mtaylor | lifeless: I find the motu process/system quite frustrating | 06:49 |
| mtaylor | lifeless: not that you can do anything about it - I'm just complaining :) | 06:50 |
| jml | spiv, how do they interact with RemoteRepository | 06:55 |
| jml | et al | 06:55 |
| spiv | jml: IIRC you'd probably get back a RemoteRepository, still. | 07:00 |
| spiv | jml: anyway, catching IncompatibleRepositories would work fine for this case, and would probably be the most minimal change. | 07:01 |
| spiv | I don't really mind what you do so long as it works ;) | 07:01 |
| igc | spiv: can I request a 30 second review ... | 07:08 |
| igc | spiv: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ian-clatworthy/bzr/422533/+merge/10976 | 07:08 |
| bialix | hello igc | 07:09 |
| vila | hi all | 07:13 |
| spiv | igc: heh | 07:13 |
| spiv | igc: 30 seconds was perhaps pessimistic :) | 07:14 |
| vila | igc: Can I request a 30 secs test for that one-liner since you obviously found a hole in the coverage ? :) | 07:14 |
| vila | igc: at least don't close the bug until you had that test... | 07:15 |
| igc | vila: it's a formatting issue of very low priority - I don't feel a test is necessary sorry | 07:17 |
| vila | it's untested code for which you had the test almost written since you encounter it, anybody else will spend more time on it | 07:19 |
| spiv | vila: I don't think a test is worth it. | 07:20 |
| spiv | It would be a test for the contents an error string; it's unlikely to regress, but adding a test would likely add needless friction if anyone *does* tweak the wording. | 07:22 |
| spiv | It's a different case I feel to what we test in test_errors (which are generally worthwhile tests). | 07:24 |
| vila | A test about an invalid property value is not worth it ? | 07:30 |
| vila | right, I'm still dreaming, let's reboot | 07:30 |
| vila | hi all, have a good day | 07:30 |
| igc | vila: w.r.t. bzr-upload, what version should I include in the Windows installer? | 07:30 |
| igc | vila: and in terms of help for it, all you need to do is ... | 07:30 |
| igc | add whatever text makes sense to the module docstring | 07:31 |
| igc | and the plugin guide generator will find it | 07:31 |
| vila | igc: thanks ! Time to move the README there | 07:31 |
| igc | vila: the Plugin Guide has one chapter per plugin | 07:31 |
| igc | the first section for each is the plugin help, then one section per command provided by the plugin | 07:32 |
| vila | igc: I intend to release 1.0 before bzr-2.0 so I'd like to have 1.0 there | 07:32 |
| igc | vila: if required, I guess plugins could have extra help topics, e.g. upload-tips | 07:33 |
| igc | vila: but if they do, I don't currently go looking for them .., | 07:33 |
| igc | and I'm not sure how hard or otherwise it would be | 07:33 |
| vila | module doc string if perfect | 07:33 |
| vila | at least to address the problem of giving more exposure to the doc :) | 07:34 |
| igc | so for now, it's in the plugin top-level help or it's in help on a plugin command (or it doesn't make it into the Plugin Guide) | 07:34 |
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| lifeless | mtaylor: tell me more later :) | 08:20 |
| mtaylor | lifeless: I will :) | 08:21 |
| jml | Conflict: can't delete lib/lazr because it is not empty. Not deleting. | 08:22 |
| jml | 1 conflicts encountered. | 08:22 |
| jml | rm -rf lib/lazr | 08:22 |
| jml | bzr resolve lib/lazr | 08:22 |
| jml | (guess how many times I've had to do that this week!) | 08:22 |
| lifeless | poolie: I've done the bug status tweak I was mentioning earlier :) | 08:25 |
| * lifeless waves ciao | 08:25 | |
| jml | lifeless, ciao | 08:25 |
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| * quicksilver tries running bzr pull over GPRS. should be fun. | 08:43 | |
| * quicksilver reflects that bzr+ssh would have been a better choice for a high latency link. | 08:44 | |
| NET||abuse | hey guys, trying to use the upload command here,, | 08:58 |
| NET||abuse | the documentation is a little vague, | 08:58 |
| NET||abuse | however i've done bzr help upload. | 08:58 |
| vila | NET||abuse: did you read the README ? | 08:58 |
| NET||abuse | now what do i do to point it at a location? | 08:58 |
| NET||abuse | oh, it's in bzr by default on jaunty it looks like. | 08:58 |
| NET||abuse | didn't load the plugin files into my ~/.bazzar | 08:58 |
| * igc dinner | 09:01 | |
| vila | NET||abuse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/264826/ | 09:02 |
| NET||abuse | vila, yeh, i pulled down the source into my projects folder, have a copy of it now and am reading the README | 09:03 |
| NET||abuse | much appreciated, | 09:03 |
| NET||abuse | just trying to figure out, | 09:03 |
| NET||abuse | how do i upload a subdirectory of the main branch? | 09:03 |
| NET||abuse | i have other configurations for local testing and things in directories here, so i was just going to upload parts | 09:04 |
| NET||abuse | and i have an extra directory layer that isn't on the live server | 09:04 |
| vila | NET||abuse: You can't do that yet | 09:04 |
| NET||abuse | means i should be able to just upload the src/server directory, it holds my www application system and etc directories. | 09:05 |
| NET||abuse | arrg | 09:05 |
| vila | You can only upload a full branch working tree | 09:05 |
| NET||abuse | that's annoying. | 09:05 |
| NET||abuse | that's pretty much useless then. | 09:05 |
| NET||abuse | just have to do big scp transfers then | 09:05 |
| vila | there are various ways to address it, none available yet | 09:05 |
| NET||abuse | overwriting the whole site | 09:05 |
| vila | one way is to create a dedicated branch as a fork of your trunk and delete all unwanted stuff there | 09:06 |
| vila | you can then merge in that reduced branch and upload that | 09:06 |
| vila | NET||abuse: filing a bug report explaining your use case can only help defining the feature | 09:08 |
| vila | NET||abuse: or add your case description in bug #212677 | 09:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 212677 in bzr-upload "Should allow uploading specific files" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212677 | 09:09 |
| NET||abuse | vila, ok, i'll add some description to that bug, bookmarked it. | 09:12 |
| vila | poolie, lifeless, spiv, igc: data point: I upgradeb ~200 branches in a shared repo over NFS without trouble (~400MB of data processed there) | 09:20 |
| vila | upgraded even | 09:20 |
| vila | funnily enough, the first 'bzr info' after that whined about a NFS stale on a FoRmAt file, once and never again :) | 09:21 |
| poolie | hello vila | 09:29 |
| poolie | vila, i wonder if they had a flaky network card or switch or something | 09:29 |
| vila | something weirder than that since the file disappear after several days, NFS is excluded as cause (IMHO) | 09:30 |
| Lo-lan-do | Hi all | 10:05 |
| Lo-lan-do | Is anyone in particular linked to Loggerhead? | 10:06 |
| Lo-lan-do | I guess it's jelmer again :-) | 10:07 |
| Lo-lan-do | jelmer: Any plans on uploading a recent Loggerhead to Debian? | 10:09 |
| poolie | Lo-lan-do: or mwh, but he's not a dd | 10:11 |
| Lo-lan-do | I'm going to need it for a client. I can do the required work (updating the packages and providing backports for Lenny) if needed, I'd just like to know in advance so it doesn't come as a surprise to them when IÂ bill for my time. | 10:11 |
| Lo-lan-do | This could be said to be an offer for help, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes. | 10:12 |
| jelmer | Lo-lan-do: Hi! | 10:21 |
| jelmer | Lo-lan-do: You're more than welcome to help out with the loggerhead packaging | 10:22 |
| jml | g'night poolie | 10:22 |
| poolie | night! | 10:22 |
| jelmer | Lo-lan-do: I was going to update your patch to fix the use of libyui-js, but have been away since debconf9 so haven't had much time for that | 10:22 |
| poolie | nothing like a good night's sleep :) | 10:25 |
| jelmer | (-: | 10:25 |
| james_w | I put the latest loggerhead release in karmic the other day | 10:29 |
| james_w | it's on bzr.debian.org | 10:29 |
| jelmer | ah, great | 10:33 |
| AfC | Has there been a 2.0-rc2 release as yet? | 10:35 |
| * AfC is scared about the upgrade bug, and 2.0-rc1 is what Gentoo is shipping as ~arch right now | 10:35 | |
| vila | AfC: not yet | 10:38 |
| luks | why do they ship release candidates? | 10:53 |
| AfC | luks: they never used to package Bazaar's rc's, but I guess someone was listening to the fact that the lead up to 2.0 is a bit different. | 10:57 |
| AfC | After all, we want people testing. | 10:58 |
| luks | yeah, but making ever Gentoo user a tester is probably not such a good idea :) | 11:01 |
| luks | +y | 11:02 |
| jelmer | james_w: did you manage to keep the yui stuff in loggerhead working? | 11:09 |
| james_w | was the patch not complete? | 11:10 |
| jelmer | james_w: it was complete but last time I attempted to merge a new upstream I had trouble keeping the yui-js patch applied and loggerhead working | 11:12 |
| james_w | hmm | 11:15 |
| james_w | there were no conflicts, but I don't understand why | 11:15 |
| lifeless | igc: something going south on this import :( | 11:38 |
| lifeless | 10:10:27 64000/133780 commits processed at 263/minute (:64000) | 11:38 |
| lifeless | 11:19:34 65000/133780 commits processed at 208/minute (:65000) | 11:38 |
| lifeless | still working on the next 1000 | 11:38 |
| lifeless | 4847 robertc 20 0 6153m 4.8g 1208 D 0 83.8 375:11.54 python | 11:38 |
| lifeless | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND | 11:38 |
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| vila | bialix, bialix, where are you :-/ | 12:05 |
| vila | naoki: ping | 12:06 |
| vila | naoki: You're the one I need ! revno 171 broke the test farm installer build | 12:06 |
| vila | naoki: revno 171 of tortoisebzr I meant | 12:07 |
| vila | naoki: http://paste.ubuntu.com/264900/ | 12:07 |
| Lo-lan-do | jelmer: Okay, thanks. I'll keep in touch however things work out. | 12:25 |
| jelmer | hmm, bzr-stats seems to think that lifeless, jam, igc and vila are the same person | 12:54 |
| vila | jelmer: hehe, I mentioned that some weeks ago :) | 12:56 |
| vila | I don't know when it occured, I wonder if --authors may have tricked it but that should have occurred months ago when we landed bbc | 12:57 |
| Lo-lan-do | It's all a cabal anyway. | 12:58 |
| vila | jelmer: Where did you run it ? | 12:58 |
| jelmer | vila: bzr.dev | 13:02 |
| vila | wow, just ran it on an upgraded bzr.dev, snappy :) | 13:03 |
| vila | jelmer: so, that's really weird becase jam and vila survive but steal from each other anyway :D | 13:04 |
| vila | lifeless and igc disappear completely though, shame | 13:04 |
| vila | given only those four are involved, I'd say --author tricked bzr-stats, 90% sure :) | 13:05 |
| jelmer | I'll have a look at it when I find some time | 13:08 |
| jelmer | Yeah, 2a is teh awesome | 13:08 |
| jelmer | I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm really looking forward to 2.0 ! | 13:09 |
| vila | :) | 13:09 |
| jelmer | lifeless: how would a test have multiple statusses? | 13:18 |
| bialix | vila: are you summon me up? | 13:19 |
| vila | wow, magic bialix ! How did you know ? 8-) | 13:20 |
| vila | I wanted to tell you to tell naoki about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/264900/, but I'm sure you already know that, did it, and I've just to pull tbzr again for the fix... | 13:21 |
| mortehu | I get this on commit: bzr: ERROR: Cannot commit to branch BzrBranch6('file:///me/app/'). It is bound to BzrBranch6('file:///other/app/'), which is bound to file:///other/app/. | 13:23 |
| vila | mortehu: no more than one level of binding | 13:23 |
| mortehu | I see. I'll have to read up on how this works. | 13:24 |
| bialix | vila: ? | 13:24 |
| vila | bialix: yes ? | 13:25 |
| vila | bialix: I wanted to tell you to tell naoki about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/264900/, but I'm sure you already know that, did it, and I've just to pull tbzr again for the fix... | 13:25 |
| bialix | I don't understand | 13:25 |
| bialix | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tortoisebzr/ | 13:25 |
| bialix | you need this I guess | 13:25 |
| vila | k | 13:26 |
| mortehu | vila: You did notice that the last two paths in the error message were identical? | 13:27 |
| vila | mortehu: no | 13:27 |
| vila | that;s weird | 13:27 |
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| bialix | vila: naoki said something about removing some dependencies from tbzr build so he can build with other compiler or sdk | 13:30 |
| bialix | vila: so maybe there is difference in build environment between him and your slave | 13:30 |
| vila | I filed a bug | 13:30 |
| vila | bu g#424303 | 13:31 |
| vila | bug #424303 | 13:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 424303 in tortoisebzr "fix for #421890 broke the automated installer build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424303 | 13:31 |
| bialix | ok | 13:33 |
| vila | mortehu: what is your setup ? Can you issue 'bzr info' in each branch involved / | 13:35 |
| vila | ? | 13:35 |
| mortehu | Checkout (format: pack-0.92) Location: branch root | 13:36 |
| vila | mortehu: don't spam the channel, use a paste service instead and copy the whole output | 13:37 |
| mortehu | That was the whole output. | 13:37 |
| vila | >-/ | 13:38 |
| vila | bzr version | 13:38 |
| mortehu | 1.5 | 13:38 |
| vila | ouch, what os are you using ? | 13:38 |
| mortehu | It's some other dude's repository (I normally use something else). He went to sleep. :) | 13:38 |
| mortehu | Debian | 13:39 |
| vila | 1.5 is... more than year old... but I'm surprised we can't get more info... try 'bzr info -v' ? | 13:40 |
| mortehu | I'll just put the files in his working copy and have him commit in the morning. | 13:40 |
| mortehu | Thanks for your time, by the way. | 13:41 |
| vila | mmmm, branch6... did we even support that in 1.5 ? | 13:41 |
| vila | yes we did | 13:42 |
| mthaddon | not sure if anyone's around who can help here, but I'm testing the upgrade of the bzr PQM instance and running into problems because the existing format is pack-0.92 but current lp:pqm is 1.14-rich-root or 1.9-rich-root - can I convert the current branch to the right format? | 14:51 |
| jelmer | mthaddon: I think so | 14:54 |
| jelmer | mthaddon: At least, can't think of any reason why that would be a bad idea | 14:54 |
| mthaddon | jelmer: so how would I do that? bzr upgrade --1.14-rich-root ? | 14:55 |
| jelmer | mthaddon: yep | 14:55 |
| * mthaddon gives it a go | 14:56 | |
| mthaddon | jelmer: cool, worked a treat, thx | 14:56 |
| jam | jelmer: that would be a rather prolific person, then | 14:59 |
| jam | jelmer: Unittest doesn't declare that you can't call both addError and addSuccess from the same test | 15:00 |
| jam | I've seen it getting a successful run, and then an error during cleanup | 15:00 |
| jam | or even 2 errors :) | 15:00 |
| jam | morning vila | 15:00 |
| vila | morning jam | 15:01 |
| Kobaz | bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "An attempt to access a url outside the server jail was made: 'chroot-163675084:///project/base/'.") | 15:26 |
| Kobaz | i upgraded bzr on my server and now i get that | 15:26 |
| Kobaz | i'm using bzr+https:// | 15:26 |
| Kobaz | with the bzr-smart thingee | 15:26 |
| jelmer | did the submit branch for bzr change recently? | 15:34 |
| jam | Kobaz: known bug, I'll try to track it down for you | 15:34 |
| jam | jelmer: yes | 15:34 |
| jam | it is now on LP | 15:34 |
| Kobaz | jam: yeah i found the bug, it poped up in 1.16 | 15:35 |
| jelmer | Should I just be using lp:bzr? | 15:35 |
| jam | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/bzr/bzr.dev | 15:35 |
| jelmer | jam: thanks! | 15:35 |
| Kobaz | supposidly was fixed in 1.17 | 15:35 |
| Kobaz | but it's still happening in 1.17 | 15:35 |
| Kobaz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/400535 | 15:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 400535 in bzr "ChrootServer/ChrootTransport not used by "bzr serve"" [Critical,Fix released] | 15:35 |
| Kobaz | looks like a regression | 15:35 |
| jam | Kobaz: actually 348308 | 15:35 |
| jam | bug 348308 | 15:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348308 in bzr "Smart server jail breaks bzr+http with shared repos" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348308 | 15:35 |
| jam | there is a workaround in that bug report | 15:35 |
| Kobaz | hm | 15:37 |
| Kobaz | is there anything obviously bad about using the workaround? | 15:38 |
| Kobaz | or should i stick with what i've been using: 1.13 | 15:38 |
| jam | Kobaz: generally I would recommend newer bzr's for a variety of reasons | 15:39 |
| jam | I don't think the workaround is that bad | 15:39 |
| jam | we really need to get something like that into a real fix | 15:39 |
| Kobaz | what's major between 1.13 and 1.17? | 15:40 |
| jam | Kobaz: significantly better streaming + stacking support, support for the 2a format repository which is the default in 2.0 (to be released in the next week or two) | 15:41 |
| jam | I can point you to NEWS if you want details | 15:41 |
| Kobaz | k sure | 15:42 |
| Kobaz | hmm | 15:42 |
| jam | Kobaz: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/release-notes/NEWS.html | 15:43 |
| Kobaz | okay, the workaround appears to be working | 15:43 |
| rockstar | jam, hi | 15:44 |
| jam | hey rockstar | 15:44 |
| rockstar | jam, I seem to have a brokenness in my tarmac trunk that is preventing me from merging a branch. | 15:44 |
| rockstar | (I originally thought it was a tarmac bug, but bzr reports the same error, hiding the spectacular traceback) | 15:45 |
| rockstar | jam, pastebin -> https://pastebin.canonical.com/21836/ | 15:46 |
| rockstar | Shoot, that probably should have gone to p.u.c | 15:46 |
| jam | rockstar: we use p.c.c fairly often here | 15:46 |
| * rockstar is still getting used to working on Free Software every day. | 15:47 | |
| jam | rockstar: so I *think* that xml 5 is non-rich-root | 15:48 |
| jam | which means it shouldn't be existing in your rich-root format repo | 15:49 |
| jam | trying to do 'bzr pull' I'm getting the same error | 15:49 |
| rockstar | jam, target branch for merge is 2a | 15:49 |
| rockstar | jam, also, it's possible that your branch is pre-upgrade, so pulling in gets the same error. | 15:50 |
| jam | that isn't what I see here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/tarmac/main | 15:50 |
| rockstar | jam, chk inventories == 2a, right? | 15:50 |
| jam | rockstar: yes | 15:50 |
| rockstar | abentley, ^^ | 15:50 |
| jam | ah... | 15:50 |
| jam | Development repository format | 15:51 |
| jam | which would be... --dev6 or so | 15:51 |
| jam | certainly something weird going on... | 15:51 |
| jam | I wonder if you merged a broken bundle but had it successfully merge | 15:51 |
| rockstar | How do I find that out? | 15:52 |
| abentley | rockstar: looking... | 15:52 |
| jam | rockstar: I'm trying to lftp mirror it to check | 15:52 |
| rockstar | abentley, for background, it looks like tarmac trunk is broken. | 15:52 |
| jam | also, there should be 0 xml inventories in chk inventory land | 15:52 |
| rockstar | jam, I thought I remembered you talking about that at AllHands. | 15:53 |
| jam | rockstar: downloading now | 15:54 |
| abentley | jam: if you need an exact mirror, you can use "hitchhiker mirror . $LOCAL_PATH" | 15:55 |
| jam | abentley: thanks | 15:56 |
| jam | so... once I did the mirror using lftp, it doesn't seem broken on this end... :( | 15:56 |
| jam | hm... I wonder about bzr 1.17 on lp versus bzr.dev locally | 15:56 |
| jam | ah, or cross-format issues | 15:57 |
| jam | checking a few things | 15:57 |
| jam | rockstar: so your trunk is in --dev6-rich-root and not --2a | 15:58 |
| jam | which might be a problm | 15:58 |
| jam | I'm guessing bzr 1.17 is trying to send the revisions using the generic streaming code | 15:58 |
| jam | which was broken until recently fixed (prob bzr 1.18 required) | 15:58 |
| rockstar | Hm, how'd that happen? I specified --2a on the upgrade. | 15:58 |
| jam | rockstar: bzr info sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rockstar/tarmac/main/ | 15:58 |
| jam | Repository branch (format: development6-rich-root) | 15:59 |
| rockstar | :/ | 15:59 |
| jam | so 1.17 is probably trying to cross-format stream by casting to XML inventories, and newer bzr's don't like it | 15:59 |
| jam | and they shouldn't, because xml5 wasn't actually compatible with --dev6, we just didn't realize it in time | 15:59 |
| jam | rockstar: can you do a similar 'bzr info' check? | 16:00 |
| jam | I'm wondering about a problem between the hosted side | 16:00 |
| jam | and the mirrored side | 16:00 |
| jam | as I'm pretty sure *my* sftp access gives me the mirror | 16:00 |
| rockstar | repository: Development repository format - rich roots, group compression and chk inventories | 16:00 |
| jam | rockstar: that would be --dev6 | 16:00 |
| jam | so my suggesstion... | 16:00 |
| jam | 'bzr upgrade --2a' | 16:00 |
| jam | possibly prefixed with | 16:01 |
| jam | hitchhiker lp:tarmac rmtree backup.bzr | 16:01 |
| rockstar | Also, if I upgrade my branch locally, and push, the pushed version won't get upgraded, so I need to rmtree .bzr as well, right? | 16:02 |
| jam | rockstar: when you push, we preserve | 16:02 |
| jam | I was actually meaning "bzr upgrade --2a lp:tarmac" | 16:03 |
| jam | so upgrade the remote | 16:03 |
| jam | but yeah, you could do it the other way as well | 16:03 |
| jam | bzr push --use-existing, etc. | 16:03 |
| rockstar | Okay, great. | 16:03 |
| nealmcb | Sometimes I clone an individual file in a project and then it evolves on its own. is there any way to track that in bzr? | 16:05 |
| nealmcb | e.g. so I could go to the clone, ask for a history, and find out that earlier history was in the file it was cloned from? | 16:06 |
| rockstar | nealmcb, how are you cloning the individual file? | 16:08 |
| awilkins | nealmcb: No, Bazaar has no model for copying files as yet | 16:08 |
| nealmcb | rockstar: now I 'clone it' with cp.... | 16:08 |
| nealmcb | awilkins: do you know of others that do? | 16:08 |
| nealmcb | not a big deal, but I like meta information :) | 16:09 |
| awilkins | Subversion will let you do it. I don't know about Mercurial or git, but I suspect git might by dint of the way it works internally | 16:09 |
| luks | svn does :) | 16:09 |
| nealmcb | thanks | 16:10 |
| rockstar | jam, I just did an upgrade and a fresh branch, and I still get: Development repository format - rich roots, group compression and chk inventories | 16:14 |
| michaelforrest | bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ProgressBarStack' | 16:14 |
| rockstar | jam, this is a new shared repo as well, created with bzr init-repo --2a | 16:15 |
| vila | jam: hurrah ! #412930 approved :-D | 16:15 |
| vila | michaelforrest: out-of-date bzr-gtk plugin ? | 16:15 |
| bialix | vila: oho | 16:15 |
| jam | rockstar: unfortunately it looks like RepositoryFormat2a doesn't have its own get_format_string | 16:15 |
| rockstar | jam, but it merges this time... O_o | 16:15 |
| jam | so it is re-using the old one | 16:16 |
| rockstar | jam, is that a bug? | 16:16 |
| bialix | vila: can you kick the build of tbzr as of revno.171? | 16:16 |
| jam | sorry, it is get_format_description( that we need | 16:16 |
| jam | anyway, yeah, I'm reporting it as a bug | 16:16 |
| jam | should be easy to fix | 16:16 |
| vila | bialix: kicked | 16:16 |
| bialix | vila: I think revno.172 introduced that problem with build | 16:16 |
| vila | ha 171, no, I don't have that level of detail, I thought it wsa a new revision, sorry | 16:17 |
| michaelforrest | hurray! thanks vila. | 16:17 |
| vila | I used qlog and searched for the last revision that modified the file and got the revision I indicated | 16:18 |
| bialix | vila: in revno 172 naoki removed definition of ARGB typedef, I think this is root of problem | 16:19 |
| vila | bialix: ohh, I see what you mean, | 16:19 |
| vila | I just run qlog again | 16:19 |
| vila | bialix: I think you're right but the way the build works today, I can only use the tip of the branch | 16:20 |
| bialix | well, I'm not sure it will be good idea to commit there just to check this idea | 16:21 |
| vila | let's wait for naoki input then | 16:21 |
| bialix | vila: oki | 16:23 |
| bialix | what is "square dancing"? | 16:24 |
| bialix | emmajane: ^ | 16:24 |
| vila | bialix: not sure, I think it north american folk dance :) | 16:24 |
| vila | bialix: not sure, I think it's a north american folk dance :) | 16:25 |
| emmajane | vila, aye :) | 16:25 |
| emmajane | bialix, google for "square dance tutorials" :) | 16:25 |
| vila | emmajane: clicking images for that search gives.... suprising results :) | 16:26 |
| emmajane | vila, lots of poofy skirts? | 16:26 |
| vila | not exactly... nothing wrong either, just not really related | 16:28 |
| emmajane | heh | 16:28 |
| emmajane | maybe google.ca gives different results. | 16:28 |
| bialix | not sure about google results. | 16:29 |
| bialix | it's a dancing on the streets? | 16:29 |
| === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] | ||
| abentley | bialix: The "square" means that people are arranged in a square, facing each other. It doesn't refer to city squares. | 16:30 |
| emmajane | bialix, did you look at the slides? | 16:30 |
| vila | argh, grrr, google.fr ! I hate that, how many times should I bang google on the head so that it understand I want google.com and nothing else *by default*. I can go to localized version when *I* want thank you very much | 16:30 |
| emmajane | bialix, there are actually pictures and links in the slides. | 16:30 |
| bialix | which slides? | 16:30 |
| emmajane | bialix, that I dented | 16:30 |
| emmajane | bialix, I assume that's what you're referring to? | 16:30 |
| bialix | I'm not sure | 16:31 |
| awilkins | Bah, being back at work sucks | 16:31 |
| vila | awilkins: go back to vacations | 16:31 |
| awilkins | Just got my reminder to do my pointless weekly blog | 16:31 |
| bialix | ok, nm | 16:31 |
| awilkins | My manager wants me to set up 15 user profiles that take 10 minutes each and I'll also have to badger people for their passwords to do it. Which is silly. | 16:32 |
| awilkins | And now i'll stop whining | 16:32 |
| === sdboyer_ is now known as sdboyer | ||
| * emmajane blinks. | 16:33 | |
| jam | awilkins: script it :) | 16:38 |
| jam | make sure the script includes a poorly written email asking users for their passwords | 16:39 |
| vila | jam: ROTFL | 16:39 |
| awilkins | jam: It's a fricking GUI :-( I have the sources :-) They are horrible :-( | 16:39 |
| vila | go directly to jail don't get the 20.000 FF :) | 16:39 |
| awilkins | Freedom Fries? I'd be one FF if I ate 20,000 Freedom Fries :-p | 16:40 |
| Lo-lan-do | FusionForge! | 16:41 |
| vila | awilkins: close but no cigar :) Very close: French Francs, I didn't play monopoly since more than... the time we switch to Euro :) | 16:41 |
| Lo-lan-do | (Note that FusionForge now supports Bazaar, although the pluginisn't quite complete yet) | 16:42 |
| * awilkins knew it was French Francs, which is why the joke about Freedom Fries was funny. ish. | 16:42 | |
| Lo-lan-do | (But it will be soonish, see above for my reasons) | 16:42 |
| jelmer | Lo-lan-do: w00t! | 16:42 |
| jelmer | Lo-lan-do: Any idea when that sort of stuff would end up on alioth? | 16:42 |
| Lo-lan-do | jelmer: It's *already* on alioth :-) | 16:43 |
| vila | awilkins: I thought you were british and that the fries joke was north-american only :) | 16:43 |
| Lo-lan-do | But the incompleteness shows: no commit stats and no Loggerhead. | 16:43 |
| awilkins | I am British, but we hear enough of the American news to know the phrase "Cheese-eating Surrender Monkey" | 16:44 |
| Lo-lan-do | I recently completed/fixed the git plugin for another customer. bzr is next. | 16:44 |
| vila | Never went to war myself, I can speak about the surrender part, but I like cheese and I'm a monkey :) | 16:45 |
| * Lo-lan-do fills up the Channel Tunnel | 16:45 | |
| awilkins | There's a bloke who wants to open a British restaurant in Italy... partly to show case our cheeses (which are different, but good too) | 16:45 |
| vila | british cheese ? I thought you eat only dutch cheese :D | 16:46 |
| awilkins | vila: Edam is like plastic | 16:46 |
| Lo-lan-do | If I ever go on a month-long tour of Europe, I'll be sure to taste stuff besides the typical. | 16:46 |
| vila | let's start some european civil war to start the week-end :D | 16:46 |
| awilkins | vila: We have some of the greats, like cheddar, stilton, stinking bishop | 16:47 |
| awilkins | I do like Jarlsberg | 16:47 |
| Lo-lan-do | English cheese, German wine, Greek beer, and so on. | 16:47 |
| awilkins | I was shocked to find myself liking _Amercian_ beer | 16:48 |
| awilkins | But only the local stuff from microbreweries | 16:48 |
| vila | ..and counting ? I went to visit some friend last week-end and he said: "See, we do some wine and some cheese here", to which I replied: "Funny, nearly every french can say that, whaterver region they are from, they do some local wine and cheese !" :-D | 16:48 |
| Lo-lan-do | The only beer I managed to like is (kill me now) Kriek. | 16:48 |
| vila | Lo-lan-do: Belge une fois ? | 16:49 |
| Lo-lan-do | I am not! | 16:49 |
| awilkins | I like kriek. And framboise | 16:50 |
| vila | No offence meant :) | 16:50 |
| * Lo-lan-do is a garlic-stinking, pastis-drinking, smelly-cheese-eating Frenchman | 16:50 | |
| Lo-lan-do | No moustache though, sorry. It itches. | 16:50 |
| tbradshaw | hmmm | 16:57 |
| tbradshaw | so I'm getting a bzr error on the creation of a fresh local repo? | 16:57 |
| luks | are you? | 16:57 |
| tbradshaw | indeed, but it seems so unlikely. :/ | 16:58 |
| tbradshaw | http://pastebin.projects.quakecon.org/67 | 16:58 |
| luks | you are misunderstanding bzr concepts | 16:59 |
| luks | http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/user-guide/index.html#core-concepts | 16:59 |
| tbradshaw | what am I misunderstanding? | 17:00 |
| tbradshaw | is it just that "status" doesn't operate on a repostory? | 17:00 |
| luks | yes | 17:00 |
| tbradshaw | which would make sense, of course, but I wouldn't expect an error in that case | 17:00 |
| luks | why not? | 17:00 |
| luks | it's like running "cat" on a directory | 17:01 |
| tbradshaw | because a command with unfulfilled prerequisites shouldn't execute? | 17:01 |
| luks | it doesn't, and it tells you why | 17:01 |
| tbradshaw | cat on a directory gives a very reasonable response. :) | 17:01 |
| tbradshaw | but, anyway, I don't mean to get into a critique on software behavior | 17:02 |
| tbradshaw | I'm satisfied knowing that bzr doesn't work on repositories and I was just misusing it | 17:02 |
| luks | bzr st tells you that there is no working tree | 17:02 |
| luks | so it can't operate | 17:02 |
| tbradshaw | indeed | 17:02 |
| tbradshaw | the curiousity was that it gives an error on an nonexistent directory | 17:03 |
| tbradshaw | which lead me to believe an error during construction, rather than a simple misuse | 17:03 |
| tbradshaw | but, that's okay, it's still just a user error. :D | 17:03 |
| luks | that's where it would expect the working tree to be defined | 17:03 |
| luks | I agree the error message should be nicer | 17:03 |
| luks | if you want to "work" with bzr, you need to create a branch | 17:04 |
| tbradshaw | thanks for pointing out the difference, however. | 17:04 |
| luks | which is done using: bzr init | 17:04 |
| luks | bzr init-repo just creates a container for revisions | 17:04 |
| tbradshaw | yes, my intention was to create a local repository, such that I could store some related branches | 17:04 |
| tbradshaw | I had just been using bzr status liberally as a "sanity check" | 17:04 |
| luks | yep, then you need bzr init inside that directory | 17:04 |
| luks | you can run bzr info as a sanity check | 17:05 |
| tbradshaw | and so when my "sanity check" failed, I ran for help | 17:05 |
| tbradshaw | ah! | 17:05 |
| luks | it will tell you what is in the current directory | 17:05 |
| luks | but status is strictly a working tree operation | 17:05 |
| tbradshaw | so I should also bzr init? Or would I go right to branching? | 17:05 |
| tbradshaw | my hope is to set up my local repository | 17:05 |
| tbradshaw | such that I have ./trunk | 17:06 |
| tbradshaw | and ./username/branches | 17:06 |
| luks | if you already have a branch somewhere, you can use bzr branch | 17:06 |
| tbradshaw | if that sounds reasonable | 17:06 |
| luks | I thought you are creating a new project | 17:06 |
| tbradshaw | no sir, launchpad stuff | 17:06 |
| tbradshaw | I just haven't done the local repository before | 17:06 |
| luks | ah, bzr branch is it then | 17:06 |
| tbradshaw | is it necessary for additional branches to be directly in the local repository? | 17:07 |
| tbradshaw | or can the local repository have some directory structure of it's own? | 17:07 |
| tbradshaw | ala, is it okay to mkdir branches, then branch other things from launchpad into that directory? | 17:08 |
| luks | no, you can have subdirectories there | 17:08 |
| luks | bzr will look for the repository in all parent directories until it finds one | 17:08 |
| Lo-lan-do | You can have branches separately. Read about "lightweight checkouts". | 17:08 |
| Lo-lan-do | Hm. Maybe I'm replying to the wrong question. Ignore me please :-) | 17:08 |
| tbradshaw | :) | 17:09 |
| tbradshaw | yeah, that looks exactly how I had hoped it when when done | 17:10 |
| tbradshaw | thanks for setting me straight luks | 17:10 |
| tbradshaw | I appreciate the time and instruction. :) | 17:10 |
| luks | sorry about the first reaction :) | 17:10 |
| luks | I thought you are a git user trying to use bzr as git :P | 17:10 |
| luks | withuot reading the documentation | 17:10 |
| tbradshaw | ha ha! Nope. Just a longtime svn user, still trying to wrap my head around distributed version control. I'm about 85% of the way there. :) | 17:11 |
| tbradshaw | but I make some poor assumptions sometimes, as you noticed. | 17:11 |
| tbradshaw | anyway, thanks again. :) | 17:12 |
| garyvdm | Hi igc | 17:14 |
| igc | hi | 17:15 |
| igc | night all | 17:17 |
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| mthaddon | about to update PQM after the current run, if anyone's interested | 17:34 |
| michaelforrest | is bzr viz supposed to support viewing differences between multiple branches? | 17:34 |
| michaelforrest | I don't know how collaboration is supposed to work if I can't get a project overview like the github network graph.. | 17:35 |
| garyvdm | michaelforrest: It can do it if the first branch has all the revisions that are in the second branch | 17:35 |
| michaelforrest | yeah that doesn't really help me | 17:35 |
| garyvdm | michaelforrest: If not, it fails silently. | 17:35 |
| michaelforrest | I want to see everything everyone's done | 17:35 |
| garyvdm | michaelforrest: qlog is much better at that | 17:35 |
| michaelforrest | so I can see if there's anything worth taking | 17:35 |
| michaelforrest | what is qlog? | 17:35 |
| michaelforrest | a plugin? | 17:36 |
| garyvdm | michaelforrest: simialar to viz, but better, found in qbzr plugin. | 17:36 |
| michaelforrest | ok | 17:36 |
| michaelforrest | I'll try that | 17:36 |
| michaelforrest | thanks | 17:36 |
| michaelforrest | oh, except... I'm on a Mac! | 17:36 |
| === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck | ||
| garyvdm | :-( - I believe that it is possible to run qbzr on a mac, but the installation is difficult. | 17:37 |
| garyvdm | michaelforrest: specifically the pyqt install. | 17:38 |
| michaelforrest | I'll see if macports does the job | 17:38 |
| luks | it seems there is a py25-pyqt4 port | 17:39 |
| luks | so it should work, it will just take some time | 17:39 |
| michaelforrest | ah ,thanks luks | 17:39 |
| garyvdm | Hi luks | 17:39 |
| luks | hi garyvdm | 17:40 |
| garyvdm | luks: I'm working on: http://bazaar-vcs.org/qbzr/Blueprint/BrowseRedesign | 17:40 |
| garyvdm | bbl - Dinner | 17:40 |
| luks | the mockup looks good | 17:41 |
| luks | but implementing it will be harder, as it's not exactly standard UI | 17:41 |
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| naoki_ | I'm sorry. I fixed tbzr build error. | 18:49 |
| naoki_ | I can't build trunk directly because I don't have VC++2008 Std. | 18:50 |
| naoki_ | I don't know autobuild environment. Is it build another branch? | 18:52 |
| jam | naoki_: we have buildbot running on a win2k3 machine | 18:52 |
| jam | http://babune.ladeuil.net:26862/waterfall | 18:53 |
| vila | naoki_: still no good, but I'm not sure the bot got your last revision | 18:53 |
| naoki_ | For example, (1) push to lp:tortoisebzr/pre-trunk, (2) autobuild (3) push to lp:tortoisebzr | 18:53 |
| jam | specifically something like: http://babune.ladeuil.net:26862/builders/installer-dev-plugin-dev | 18:53 |
| vila | jam: it looks like my pqm submission go in a black hole... no feedback mail :-/ | 18:53 |
| jam | vila: are you using the right submit branch? | 18:54 |
| jam | blackholes suck, though... | 18:54 |
| jam | it seems to happen often with pqm | 18:54 |
| vila | I used bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/bzr/bzr.dev, should I use http instead ? | 18:54 |
| vila | trying, will pass around later, dinner time | 18:55 |
| jam | vila: yes, http | 19:00 |
| vila | jam: even more obscure, I have mail in bazaar-commits for my submissions ! | 19:37 |
| vila | jam: that is, the mails are accurate, but the revisions are nowhere to be seen, neither in the old trunk nor the new one... | 19:41 |
| vila | finally, the submission to http came back as failure: nothing to merge | 19:43 |
| === kiko-phone is now known as kiko | ||
| BasicOSX | Great job on 2a, love it! | 20:15 |
| jam | vila: so... when you submit to pqm it does the merge and commit locally, and the pushes that to lp | 20:26 |
| jam | it is *possible* for that push to fail | 20:26 |
| jam | in the past we had problems with redundant packs after autopack, etc | 20:26 |
| jam | and that tends to kill pqm but give it 'nothing to do' | 20:26 |
| jam | because its local branch has the revisions merged | 20:27 |
| jam | thanks BasicOSX | 20:27 |
| jam | yeah, I just branched 'bzr.dev' from scratch in about 3m30s | 20:27 |
| jam | down from 12m+ last I used it | 20:27 |
| BasicOSX | yeah, same here. Amazing speed increase | 20:27 |
| vila | jam: yup, I came to the same conclusion, the merge went fine, the push failed, no idea how to track that further though without a LOSA :-/ | 20:27 |
| jam | vila: Not possible, as far as I know | 20:28 |
| jam | mthaddon ,or spm ? | 20:28 |
| mthaddon | vila: how can I help? | 20:28 |
| vila | ho ! | 20:28 |
| jam | mthaddon: it would seem that pqm successfully merged something but failed to push it to lp | 20:28 |
| vila | mthaddon: it seems that pqm can't push to lp | 20:28 |
| jam | can you check pqm's logs? | 20:28 |
| mthaddon | jam: sure - when did this (not) happen | 20:29 |
| jam | vila knows for sure | 20:29 |
| jam | maybe 3 hours ago | 20:29 |
| vila | I think I did the submission 2h30 ago | 20:29 |
| jam | vila: yeah, and the email is sent post push, not post commit | 20:30 |
| jam | so that also would fit the symptoms | 20:30 |
| mthaddon | jam, vila: https://pastebin.canonical.com/21854/ | 20:30 |
| jam | mthaddon, vila: looks like a direct bug in pqm | 20:30 |
| jam | something got a string pointing to a branch, and thought it was getting a Branch object | 20:31 |
| jam | perhaps aliasing of a variable? | 20:31 |
| mthaddon | jam: possibly not - https://pastebin.canonical.com/21856/ | 20:31 |
| jam | mthaddon: well, that could be a factor too, but certainly pqm shouldn't be treating a string as a Branch object :) | 20:32 |
| vila | damn it, can you check the authentication.conf file | 20:32 |
| jam | the latter may have triggered the former, though | 20:32 |
| vila | mthaddon: if auth.conf exists in ~/.bazaar and user is not bzr-pqm... that will explain why spm called auth.conf with poetic names | 20:33 |
| vila | mthaddon, jam : that's in addition to the direct pqm bug of course | 20:33 |
| mthaddon | https://pastebin.canonical.com/21858/ is from .ssh/config and the public key seems to match https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/+sshkeys | 20:35 |
| vila | mthaddon: at worse, you should check with spm about auth.conf, my memory of the discussion is that you shouldn't use lp: on pqm only bzr+ssh urls | 20:35 |
| mthaddon | vila: I tried it again with bzr+ssh urls - got the same | 20:35 |
| vila | mthaddon: but what appear in ~/.bazaar/authentication.conf ? | 20:35 |
| mthaddon | although for some reason auth.conf has launchpad-pqm user :( | 20:35 |
| vila | mthaddon: if you don't specify a user in the url, auth.conf will provide it | 20:35 |
| vila | here we are.... | 20:36 |
| nxvl_ | hi! i was wondering about the "--fixes" option, in the docs it says i can close multiple bugs, but it doesn't say how the parameters need to be passed | 20:36 |
| mthaddon | was updated 2009-09-04 14:47 | 20:36 |
| vila | so, the solution is to remove auth.conf | 20:36 |
| nxvl_ | as in space separated, comma separated, a --fixes option for each | 20:36 |
| vila | but we need to understand how and whem it came back | 20:36 |
| mthaddon | vila: why would that have been created? | 20:36 |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| vila | mthaddon: *you* tell me :-D | 20:36 |
| vila | my 8-ball can't read the logs there :) | 20:37 |
| mthaddon | vila: which logs? | 20:37 |
| vila | mthaddon: It was a joke, I have no idea where to look :-/ | 20:37 |
| vila | .bzr.log certainly, but for what command ? | 20:37 |
| mthaddon | yeah, me neither :( | 20:37 |
| vila | Some command that use lp: certainly since that is the one that trigger the creation of the [launchpad] section in auth.conf, | 20:38 |
| mthaddon | vila: should I just remove that file for the moment? | 20:38 |
| vila | but I don't know precisely which... lp-login ? What did bazaar.conf says ? | 20:39 |
| vila | mthaddon: yes | 20:39 |
| mthaddon | vila: oh, hang on a sec... | 20:39 |
| vila | err | 20:39 |
| vila | hang on | 20:39 |
| mthaddon | so I did an upgrade of PQM earlier | 20:39 |
| vila | what hour ? | 20:39 |
| mthaddon | let me confirm | 20:39 |
| vila | in pqm time so we can relate to 'was updated 2009-09-04 14:47' | 20:39 |
| mthaddon | about three hours ago... | 20:40 |
| mthaddon | so this is sounding promising - if we just remove this file we should be good | 20:40 |
| mthaddon | which I've now done | 20:40 |
| vila | in bzr trunk you should now be able to try: 'bzr missing :push' and it should tell you about 2 missing revisions | 20:41 |
| mthaddon | I'm not really sure what directory that'd be from, locally - let me see if I can find anything | 20:42 |
| vila | ,bzr.log should give you some hints | 20:42 |
| mthaddon | vila: https://pastebin.canonical.com/21859/ <-- gah! | 20:44 |
| vila | mthaddon: 'bzr info' ? | 20:45 |
| * vila wonders what escudero maps to... | 20:45 | |
| mthaddon | https://pastebin.canonical.com/21860/ | 20:46 |
| vila | mthaddon: 8-( I'm lost | 20:47 |
| vila | lifeless, jam: wrong setup on escudero ? | 20:48 |
| jam | nxvl: --fixes A --fixes B --fixes C I believe | 20:49 |
| nxvl | jam: thnk you! | 20:49 |
| vila | nxvl: I confirm, I used it last today (sry missed the question) | 20:50 |
| jam | vila: pqm shouldn't be pushing to escudero directly | 20:50 |
| jam | I believe it pushes based on the submit branch | 20:50 |
| jam | and its internal config | 20:50 |
| mthaddon | well at least bzr ls bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/bzr/bzr.dev is working now | 20:50 |
| jam | whatever maps http://bazaar.lp.net/... => bzr+ssh://... | 20:50 |
| nxvl | vila: :D | 20:50 |
| mthaddon | vila: I see two revnos diff between that dir locally and bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/bzr/bzr.dev - should I just push to there? | 20:51 |
| jam | mthaddon: sure | 20:52 |
| vila | mthaddon: that's what I want yes, thanks :) | 20:52 |
| mthaddon | jam, vila: ok, done | 20:52 |
| mthaddon | now up to revno 4674 | 20:52 |
| vila | mthaddon: what I hope though, is that you won't have to do it for every submission :) | 20:52 |
| mthaddon | :) | 20:52 |
| vila | mthaddon: thanks a ton ! | 20:53 |
| mthaddon | sure - I'll keep my fingers crossed | 20:53 |
| vila | mthaddon: we should check with spm about that authentication.conf mess, there is a bug waiting to be fixed there :) | 20:55 |
| vila | may be even some in pqm, no feedback is really bad in these circumstances | 20:57 |
| * vila EODing SWEing :) | 20:57 | |
| * fullermd SBI NRZ's to vila. | 21:00 | |
| jam | well, I think someone like lifeless gets an email when pqm crashes like this | 21:01 |
| jam | but it doesn't help the submitter much | 21:01 |
| jam | until he wakes up and notices :) | 21:01 |
| === Xavura is now known as DrHax | ||
| === DrHax is now known as Xavura | ||
| === Xavura is now known as GravityCat | ||
| kfogel | LarstiQ: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kfogel/bzr-hookless-email/byte-limit/+merge/11233 :-) | 21:21 |
| lifeless | jam: crashes how? | 21:39 |
| lifeless | jam: also, how to get a memory trace from a running bzr process? | 21:40 |
| lifeless | 4847 robertc 20 0 6284m 4.8g 1200 D 0 84.1 379:17.46 python | 21:40 |
| jam | lifeless: pqm was crashing by failing to push to lp:bzr | 21:40 |
| jam | it seems that ~/.bazaar/auth.conf got set | 21:40 |
| jam | and so it was trying to login as someone like spm | 21:40 |
| jam | in doing so | 21:40 |
| jam | it failed to send a message to vila about his merge | 21:40 |
| jam | it would successfully merge, run the tests, commit, push would fail | 21:41 |
| jam | no email | 21:41 |
| lifeless | fixed in pqm trunk | 21:41 |
| lifeless | I think | 21:41 |
| jam | also, there was a bug about "parent_branch" being a string | 21:41 |
| lifeless | theres an RT ticket for deployment alreadyt | 21:41 |
| jam | when it thought it should be a Branch object | 21:41 |
| jam | for memory trace | 21:41 |
| jam | bzr branch lp:~jameinel/+junk/py_memory_dump | 21:41 |
| jam | setup.py install (needs pyrex) | 21:41 |
| jam | then | 21:41 |
| jam | SIQUIT | 21:42 |
| jam | from memory_dump import scanner | 21:42 |
| jam | scanner.dump_gc_objects('foo.json') | 21:42 |
| jam | though right now I'm making decent use of | 21:42 |
| jam | trace.debug_memory() | 21:42 |
| jam | which just uses /proc/PID/status | 21:42 |
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| lifeless | this is the netbeans import | 21:43 |
| lifeless | its now 6:42 | 21:43 |
| lifeless | 11:19:34 65000/133780 commits processed at 208/minute (:65000) | 21:43 |
| lifeless | was the last output | 21:43 |
| lifeless | its been thrashing for 19 hours | 21:43 |
| jam | lifeless: well, IIRC from igc, if you just do 'bzr fast-import foo.fi' the fast-import code caches all texts in memory | 21:47 |
| jam | there was something about doing a 2-pass system | 21:47 |
| jam | which allows the code to know what texts will be referenced again | 21:47 |
| jam | which has been implemented, I believe | 21:47 |
| lifeless | jam: I think it caches refs to them; its a 129G .fi file: | 21:47 |
| jam | but igc knows better | 21:47 |
| jam | lifeless: no, it caches the texts | 21:47 |
| jam | see igc's recent comments about how fast-import isn't ready to scale to really-big-imports | 21:48 |
| jam | at least, that is what I understood from various threads | 21:48 |
| lifeless | hes being doing kernel and openoffice | 21:48 |
| jam | lifeless: with 2 passes | 21:48 |
| jam | I would assume | 21:48 |
| jam | 1 pass generates a map | 21:48 |
| jam | used in the second pass | 21:48 |
| lifeless | anyhow, I'm going to get a trace, file a bug, and zerg it :P | 21:48 |
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| RenatoSilva | hey what's this? http://pastie.org/606334 | 21:54 |
| Xavura | It's a URI. | 21:55 |
| Xavura | :x | 21:55 |
| RenatoSilva | how to solve that error? is it a bzr bug? | 21:59 |
| jam | so lifeless on my networking issues | 22:01 |
| jam | I came back late at night from my slower Linux server, and branched all of bzr.dev in 3.5min | 22:01 |
| jam | which was great | 22:01 |
| jam | though my last time on the Windows box was 14min | 22:01 |
| jam | (both post-pack) | 22:01 |
| jam | Unfortunately I didn't try again to see if it was time of day, versus windows/linux | 22:02 |
| jam | I did test right now, and I can get about 1.5MB/s (byte not bit) on my wireless network from a local server | 22:02 |
| jam | on windows (using rsync) | 22:02 |
| jam | I wonder if maybe our code that does some cpu processing while reading is causing problems on windows | 22:03 |
| lifeless | that would show up with the window being full | 22:04 |
| lifeless | we can tell the os we want it to be bigger | 22:05 |
| lifeless | uhm | 22:05 |
| lifeless | rephrase | 22:05 |
| lifeless | 'it might be paramiko' | 22:05 |
| lifeless | I suggest trying paramiko on linux, from the same machine | 22:05 |
| lifeless | [as few variables changed as we can] | 22:05 |
| fullermd | RenatoSilva: It's some plugin being out of sync with your bzr. | 22:06 |
| fullermd | RenatoSilva: rebase, maybe? | 22:06 |
| mthaddon | lifeless: PQM upgrade seems to be busted | 22:11 |
| mthaddon | for U1 at least | 22:11 |
| mthaddon | lifeless: https://pastebin.canonical.com/21864/ | 22:12 |
| lifeless | mthaddon: did the new dep get installed? | 22:12 |
| mthaddon | lifeless: it did, yep | 22:12 |
| lifeless | oh fnar fnar that looks like a bug | 22:12 |
| lifeless | gimme a sec I'll check trunk | 22:12 |
| mthaddon | thx | 22:13 |
| lifeless | ok just delete the parameter on that line | 22:14 |
| lifeless | it passed tests. Clearly that line isn't tested :( | 22:14 |
| mthaddon | lifeless: erm, which parameter on which line? | 22:15 |
| statik | mthaddon: the same patch I already pasted :) | 22:15 |
| mthaddon | ah! | 22:15 |
| lifeless | pushing rev with it in it anyhow | 22:17 |
| lifeless | statik: mthaddon: sorry about that | 22:17 |
| statik | no worries | 22:17 |
| lifeless | gimme a week with nothing else queued, I could really sort pqm out | 22:17 |
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| mthaddon | lifeless: I think we can fit one of those in around about April 2035 | 22:18 |
| lifeless | that soon? :) | 22:18 |
| mthaddon | yeah, I'm being optimistic | 22:19 |
| lifeless | jam: ok, dumping that json; whats the easiest tool to use to answer 'where did 6G of ram go' ? | 22:20 |
| RenatoSilva | fullermd: what's rebase and out of sync with bzr? | 22:20 |
| jam | lifeless: cat foo.json | sort | uniq | sort [something to sort on the size column] > sorted.json | 22:21 |
| jam | there is also | 22:21 |
| jam | memory_dump.loader | 22:21 |
| jam | om = memory_dump.loader.load('dumpfile.json') | 22:22 |
| jam | s = om.summarize() | 22:22 |
| jam | print s | 22:22 |
| jam | print s.summaries[0] | 22:22 |
| jam | the introspection stuff could certainly use more work | 22:22 |
| jam | but it may be a start | 22:22 |
| jam | I also have a branch of runsnakerun that can load them an compute square maps, etc | 22:23 |
| jam | but at 6GB, rsr is pretty useless | 22:23 |
| jam | there are probably enough objects that just loading the dump is going to be a couple G | 22:23 |
| fullermd | RenatoSilva: Well, it's on your list of plugins. The erroring function sounds like something I think is in rebase. | 22:27 |
| RenatoSilva | what's rebase? | 22:27 |
| fullermd | The plugin. | 22:27 |
| RenatoSilva | bzr pull -----> not a branch | 22:28 |
| RenatoSilva | how to solve this | 22:28 |
| RenatoSilva | I just want to make it work | 22:28 |
| fullermd | Well, presumably it's installed from a release, so it would need one in sync with your bzr. I don't really know details; I don't use rebase. | 22:29 |
| fullermd | (I don't know for sure rebase is what's causing your problem either, but I know I've heard that error before related to plugins, and rebase seems the most likely suspect) | 22:29 |
| bialix | I've got error in tests in my plugin: File "bzrlib\commands.pyo", line 212, in get_cmd_object --> BzrCommandError: unknown command "init" | 22:30 |
| RenatoSilva | I don't use rebase either, I did not even know that thing ever exist | 22:30 |
| bialix | what I should do? | 22:30 |
| jam | RenatoSilva: the error is a known bug in bzr's 1.17 win32 installer because it bundled a version of bzr-rebase that caused 'bzr help commands' to fail. | 22:30 |
| jam | use a different installer | 22:30 |
| jam | 1.18rc1 | 22:30 |
| jam | etc. | 22:30 |
| bialix | invoke install_bzr_command_hooks for those tests? | 22:30 |
| jam | RenatoSilva: note that there are no known real problems with 1.17, just that 'bzr help commands' is unhappy | 22:31 |
| bialix | dear core devs, can you give me advice? | 22:31 |
| RenatoSilva | jam: official release is still 1.17? Ok at least I know the cause, I guess I'll wait for the fix in official release or so | 22:31 |
| jam | RenatoSilva: 'bzr pull ==> not a branch' probably means you don't have a branch... either the source or the target | 22:31 |
| RenatoSilva | jam: rebase is not a branch | 22:31 |
| RenatoSilva | btw, I'd run bzr help commands to know how to see/change my user name that go into commits | 22:32 |
| RenatoSilva | since I won't install RCs, I ask here, how? :) | 22:32 |
| bialix | lifeless: should I run install_bzr_command_hooks for my tests if I need get_cmd_object to work? | 22:33 |
| jam | RenatoSilva: bzr help commands --no-plugnis | 22:33 |
| jam | bzr help commands --no-plugins | 22:33 |
| jam | bzr whoami | 22:33 |
| lifeless | bialix: the main one in bzrlib? no | 22:35 |
| RenatoSilva | yeah, whoami!!!!! | 22:35 |
| RenatoSilva | jam: thanks! | 22:35 |
| bialix | lifeless: so why my test failed on get_cmd_object then? | 22:36 |
| lifeless | bialix: I'm not here today - if jam can't give you a hand perhaps post to the list? | 22:36 |
| bialix | ok | 22:36 |
| bialix | jam: can you give me advice about get_cmd_object? | 22:36 |
| RenatoSilva | the whoami is stored for each OS user in his profile right? | 22:36 |
| lifeless | bialix: I would guess though that you've overridden setUp() | 22:38 |
| lifeless | and not called the base class setUp | 22:38 |
| lifeless | or something like that | 22:38 |
| bialix | lifeless: no | 22:38 |
| jam | RenatoSilva: yes | 22:39 |
| jam | bialix: I don't know much about it, without having a bit more background of how the test is failing | 22:39 |
| jam | however, I'm also done for the weekend... | 22:39 |
| bialix | ok, thanks guys for making bzrlib api harder to use | 22:40 |
| RenatoSilva | ok tahnks | 22:40 |
| lifeless | bialix: that makes me sad, that you say that | 22:41 |
| lifeless | bialix: I'm sorry its giving you trouble; if you mail the list I'll be happy to help figure it out, but I can't today. | 22:41 |
| bialix | lifeless: I found that you invoke install_hook in the test_commands.py | 22:41 |
| lifeless | I'm doing breakfast then out finding stuff for my brothers birthday | 22:41 |
| lifeless | bialix: yes, but thats to test that the hooks work | 22:42 |
| bialix | it's not the part of TestCase setUp() | 22:42 |
| lifeless | all normal bzrlib tests have the commands registered by default | 22:42 |
| bialix | perhaps when I run selftest -s bp.scmproj it won't | 22:42 |
| lifeless | bialix: the hooks are setup by doing run_bzr_command | 22:44 |
| bialix | and I'm using run_bzr() | 22:45 |
| lifeless | bialix: if you don't call run_bzr_catch_errors or run_bzr_catch_user_errors at all, they won't be registered | 22:45 |
| lifeless | bialix: why? | 22:45 |
| bialix | because it works for my plugin | 22:46 |
| lifeless | well, if you want to call it directly, yes then you will need to install the hooks manually. | 22:47 |
| bialix | yep, explicit call to install_hook helps | 22:47 |
| bialix | thanks | 22:47 |
| lifeless | calling it directly will mean you don't get error formatting | 22:47 |
| lifeless | its better to call one of the run_bzr_catch variants | 22:47 |
| bialix | lifeless: no, I need only run_bzr() | 22:49 |
| lifeless | bialix: why? | 22:50 |
| bialix | because I run bzr commands as in-process | 22:51 |
| lifeless | in the test suite or your ui? | 22:51 |
| bialix | in my backend | 22:52 |
| lifeless | sounds like you have an implementation of run_bzr_catch_user_errors | 22:53 |
| lifeless | can you not just use it directly? | 22:53 |
| bialix | lifeless: you said you're busy ;-) I'm just want to release my plugin and make its test suite pass again after 7 months of not running it | 22:54 |
| bialix | even if it ugly inside | 22:55 |
| lifeless | kk | 22:55 |
| bialix | it working in the end | 22:56 |
| bialix | all tests passed, everybody happy | 22:59 |
| RenatoSilva | How to delete the latest revision from Launchpad branch? | 22:59 |
| RenatoSilva | Anything better than branch+uncommit+revert+delete+push? | 23:01 |
| bialix | uncommit lp:xxx ? | 23:01 |
| RenatoSilva | bialix: it will uncommit directly in the lp copy? | 23:02 |
| bialix | it should | 23:02 |
| RenatoSilva | cool, but I won't get uncommited stuff when I branch it, or will I? | 23:03 |
| bialix | but I'm not sure what is lp copy for you | 23:03 |
| bialix | no, you don't get | 23:03 |
| RenatoSilva | launchpad's copy of the branch, not local copy | 23:04 |
| bialix | I'd rather to not use term "copy" | 23:04 |
| RenatoSilva | why | 23:05 |
| bialix | because they are different branches | 23:06 |
| bialix | you're working with dvcs in the end | 23:06 |
| bialix | RenatoSilva: those branches like twins: they seems similar but have different wives | 23:08 |
| RenatoSilva | bialix: ok got it, but with copy I meant same revisions, non-diverged | 23:16 |
| bialix | is the wall of white house still white when you to trun round the corner? | 23:17 |
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