[01:15] Evening LaserJock [01:23] hi sbalneav [01:23] today, I believe, we built our first real Edubuntu DVD [01:39] * sbalneav capers about wildly [01:39] And I'm applying group profiles [01:40] A red letter day. [01:40] Where can I download it? [02:14] LaserJock: where can I get the ISO? [02:17] sorry, had to take the dog for a walk [02:19] mhall1191, sbalneav : http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/ is the URL [02:19] I'm not sure how working it is right now [02:19] but it *should* be building from our seed [02:20] I was gonna ask for a torrent file, but I guess it won't do a whole lot of good [02:20] no [02:20] once you download it the first time you can rsync it though [02:20] * mhall1191 needs more disk space in order to download it [02:21] I also need to go buy some DVD-Rs [02:21] and hijack my wife's computer, as mine doesn't have a burner [02:21] * sbalneav hugs LaserJock [02:21] * mhall1191 makes a list [02:22] what is the uninstallable packages report? [02:23] mhall1191: I'm not sure I would bother burning it if you don't have to [02:23] LaserJock: then how would I test it? [02:23] mhall1191: testing via virtualbox/kvm/vmware is probably best [02:24] again with the lack of disk space [02:24] this first builds are going to be pretty throw-away [02:24] it is a Live DVD, or just installer? [02:24] should be Live [02:24] cool [02:24] just like Ubuntu's DVD [02:24] * mhall1191 didn't know what Ubuntu's DVDs were [02:24] ah [02:25] I've only ever played with CDs [02:25] well, they basically like combining the Desktop and Alternate CDs [02:25] so you can do either live or old-school installer [02:25] cool [02:26] for Ubuntu the Live part is pretty much exactly the same as the Ubuntu Desktop CD [02:26] for us, since we don't already have a Live CD, I can basically make the Live part as be anything we want [02:27] gotta run and take a shower, bbiab [03:34] I DID IT!!! [03:34] sbalneav: what? [03:34] I can't *BELEIVE* it [03:34] I added group apply to Sabayon! [03:34] Wow [03:34] Amazing [03:34] hehe :) [03:35] Hey HedgeMage [03:35] hi === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [06:55] Good morning === vorian is now known as s8n [11:15] does anyone how to disable the 'restart required' dialog after a kernel update? [11:16] It seems that every user at login gets a dialog to restart the system if a package update requires so. [11:16] On an LTSP system, this is of course not very useful [11:17] wima, it should go away if you actually did a restart [11:18] i know [11:18] simple reciepe, dont do maintenance during worktime ;) [11:18] but i cannot restart the system now. it is in use [11:19] it is alwys worktime here :) [11:19] there is likely some file under /var/lib/update-notifier/ [11:19] or in user.d in that dir [11:19] i enabled automatic security updates. That was probably not a good isea [11:20] thanks. I'll have a look [11:20] i think there is a way to adjust when they actually run [11:20] so you could let them run at night [11:24] is it safe to just remove update-notifier? Is displaying this dialog the only thing it does? [11:26] no, leave it alone [11:26] it does all kinds of stuff [11:27] ok [11:41] editing /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required should do the trick... [14:49] Morning all [15:08] hi sbalneav [15:28] So, Laser's pulled a Magic Rabbit out of an orifice, and we've got dvd images now. [15:28] Wooot === sbalneav is now known as RocketMan === RocketMan is now known as sbalneav === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal [17:16] Hi all [17:16] hi [17:17] Hello [17:17] meeting in ~1hr? [17:17] is that correct? [17:17] Hi HedgeMage, scottie! [17:17] Don't ask me, I don't keep track of meetings any more. [17:18] lol [17:23] * Lns notices the #edubuntu meetings are rarely on the ubuntu fridge calendar [17:25] I'm not sure. [17:25] I'll be here, anyay [17:26] coolio [17:28] hi LaserJock [17:28] highvoltage: you around? [17:28] hi Lns [17:37] Woah, even nubae|work is here... this meeting will have the most participants ever :) [17:45] alkisg, what time is the meeting? [17:45] Lns: I have no idea, I think you're the only one knowing about it :) [17:46] that's pretty sad! [17:47] t-14min [17:47] "next meeting a week from now: Fri Sept 4, 17:00 UTC" [17:47] there's a meeting? [17:47] Lns, see? ^^^ :D [17:48] Ummm we need to start writing an agenta... ! [17:48] LOL...maybe i should just give you all access to my calendar through webdav and keep you all in line =p [17:48] an email the day of the meeting would probably suffice [17:48] or ... regular meetings times also are a big help [17:49] yeah that would probably be good :) [17:49] us humanoids are easy to train with repetition and structure [17:54] There's a very silent "translations meeting" in #ubuntu-meeting now... [18:02] who scheduled the meeting? [21:40] YO [21:40] was at the beach, missed the meeting, also didn't put the meeting on the wiki or in the fridge, the fridge won't take my meeting updates anyway, next meeting a week from now, Fri 11 sep 17:00 UTC ! [21:41] :-) [21:44] what meeting? [21:44] I've been in here the whole time, and haven't seen or heard anything [21:44] nubae: we pinged you :) [21:44] (07:37:06 μμ) alkisg: Woah, even nubae|work is here... this meeting will have the most participants ever :) [21:44] hmmm... ok :-/ [21:45] shit I must have been doing something else [21:46] I have got to get my act together and get to these meetings... [21:50] alkisg: btw,,, if u wanna see a presentation of how the local linux distro came into being and the impact it had on schools (maybe interesting to you dunno): http://speeches.ofset.org/jrfernandez/2009/ginebra_glx/ [21:51] u need to hit space var ro make it go to next pages [21:51] clicking wouldnt work for me [21:52] nubae the meeting would be in ubuntu-meeting anyway. [21:52] nubae, i mentioned pyclic but since you weren't there.... ;) [21:52] nubae: sure I wanted to ask you about something like this, I wanna try and convince the ministry here to create/distibute a greek edu ubuntu remix... [21:52] yeah mia culpa [21:52] alkisg: well there is some amo... maybe [21:54] so the next meeting is next Friday... what time exactly? [21:57] same bat time, same bat chan? [21:57] well SOMEONE needs to put in in Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting and also in the fridge. I propose we do regular weekly meetings so it's not that you need to wait 2 motnhs for the next one [21:58] I know I lost a LOT of momentum waiting for a meeting that turned out to be well hmm not a meeting since only sbalneav from the team was there. booh (but hurray for sbalneav) [21:58] ace_suares1: laserjock was there [21:59] He talked about the new dvd edubuntu release [21:59] not last meeting ( I mean last week, not 4 hrs ago) [21:59] Ah ok [22:00] alkisg: I'd like that there would be a 'political' working group somewhere to help us convincing ministeries. Our Education Minister is totally not interested... [22:00] well, I didn't know there was a meeting to be honest... it wasnt sent to mailing list this time was it? [22:00] Yeah that would be nice... here there are just a few people interested, and I hope we can climb though them to the upper levels ;) [22:00] wow I only have to wait 5 hrs for the dvd to download! Hope it doesn't become a new build halfway through :-( [22:01] but i guess the rsync will help me. [22:01] ace_suares1: I recommend u use rsync [22:01] or zsync... think thats active now in karmic downloads [22:02] yeah nubae there are files qith zsync at the end, what do I do with thart? [22:02] qith = with, thart=that [22:03] should i NOT download the full iso first, but start with the zsync file ? [22:03] look for a zsync howto [22:03] nubae thanks! I will definately do that some time! [22:03] meanwhile... [22:03] and then write a course for it at linux-for-education.org :-) [22:04] so I am aske dto test a dvd, and in order to do that, I do haver to first find a manual for zasync, and then write a moodle course for some site that is not edubuntu.org? Hmm [22:04] dont know if I am motivated! [22:04] linux-for-education.org is related to ALL edu linux [22:05] and already contains 2 specific ed/ubuntu courses [22:05] that doesnt really answer my question if I first should d/l the iso or not! Would be bad if I later discovered that that was a waste of time! [22:05] as far as I know its the only place u can find on how to set up your desktop to have a whole set of nice working apps for your edubuntu setup [22:05] why would it be a waste of time? [22:06] u learn zsync, and u download latest edubuntu image... [22:06] its hardly wasting time [22:07] I started downloading the iso. Should I abort that and use zsync or can i use zsync later on that donwloaded iso ? [22:07] u can later use zsync on that download I would imagine [22:07] (don't quote/blame me if that is not the case) [22:07] imagine... a world without war! [22:08] so you don't know, okay, nice, you recommend zsync but you don't know this... a pity! Maybe you should leand zsync and write a tutrorial? [22:09] I know rsync, and I know what zsync does [22:09] but I dont know every intircate detail of it it, I use google for that [22:09] nubae cool! I use google to. Couldn't find the answer to my question. Hmm maybe I won't test today, maybe tomorrow :-) [22:09] I write enough tutorials, probably far more than anyone else [22:10] so I do resent that comment [22:10] jeez.... makes me wonder why I even bother [22:11] nubae: the point is: I am a nobody and I want to test. I started downloading a DVD that is more then 5 (more likely ten) hours of download. You hint that there is a better way. But that hint is incomplete. So as a newbie nobody tester, I stand in awe of those who know more, but what to do? I really don't know. That was my point, I was not trying to make you fele bad. [22:12] Edubuntu needs better 'etiquette' towards people who want to help, Is my opnion. [22:13] -------------------- 0.6% 131.0 kBps 482:59 ETA [22:14] with that donwload eating all my bandwidth, I'll put off editing the Meeting page till later... [22:17] I have a question about the edubuntu CD that I created from the dowloadable iso file. How is it possible that it cannot "find the package on the server" if the files are on the CD? Or am I assuming too much? I'm trying to install the educational desktop for ubuntu, and it keeps giving me that error. [22:31] Ah. I see. [23:12] ##------------------ 10.1% 139.7 kBps 411:16 ETA\