[01:15] <sbalneav> Evening LaserJock
[01:23] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[01:23] <LaserJock> today, I believe, we built our first real Edubuntu DVD
[01:39]  * sbalneav capers about wildly
[01:39] <sbalneav> And I'm applying group profiles
[01:40] <sbalneav> A red letter day.
[01:40] <sbalneav> Where can I download it?
[02:14] <mhall1191> LaserJock: where can I get the ISO?
[02:17] <LaserJock> sorry, had to take the dog for a walk
[02:19] <LaserJock> mhall1191, sbalneav : http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/ is the URL
[02:19] <LaserJock> I'm not sure how working it is right now
[02:19] <LaserJock> but it *should* be building from our seed
[02:20] <mhall1191> I was gonna ask for a torrent file, but I guess it won't do a whole lot of good
[02:20] <LaserJock> no
[02:20] <LaserJock> once you download it the first time you can rsync it though
[02:20]  * mhall1191 needs more disk space in order to download it
[02:21] <mhall1191> I also need to go buy some DVD-Rs
[02:21] <mhall1191> and hijack my wife's computer, as mine doesn't have a burner
[02:21]  * sbalneav hugs LaserJock
[02:21]  * mhall1191 makes a list
[02:22] <mhall1191> what is the uninstallable packages report?
[02:23] <LaserJock> mhall1191: I'm not sure I would bother burning it if you don't have to
[02:23] <mhall1191> LaserJock: then how would I test it?
[02:23] <LaserJock> mhall1191: testing via virtualbox/kvm/vmware is probably best
[02:24] <mhall1191> again with the lack of disk space
[02:24] <LaserJock> this first builds are going to be pretty throw-away
[02:24] <mhall1191> it is a Live DVD, or just installer?
[02:24] <LaserJock> should be Live
[02:24] <mhall1191> cool
[02:24] <LaserJock> just like Ubuntu's DVD
[02:24]  * mhall1191 didn't know what Ubuntu's DVDs were
[02:24] <LaserJock> ah
[02:25] <mhall1191> I've only ever played with CDs
[02:25] <LaserJock> well, they basically like combining the Desktop and Alternate CDs
[02:25] <LaserJock> so you can do either live or old-school installer
[02:25] <mhall1191> cool
[02:26] <LaserJock> for Ubuntu the Live part is pretty much exactly the same as the Ubuntu Desktop CD
[02:26] <LaserJock> for us, since we don't already have a Live CD, I can basically make the Live part as be anything we want
[02:27] <LaserJock> gotta run and take a shower, bbiab
[03:34] <sbalneav> I DID IT!!!
[03:34] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: what?
[03:34] <sbalneav> I can't *BELEIVE* it
[03:34] <sbalneav> I added group apply to Sabayon!
[03:34] <sbalneav> Wow
[03:34] <sbalneav> Amazing
[03:34] <HedgeMage> hehe :)
[03:35] <sbalneav> Hey HedgeMage
[03:35] <HedgeMage> hi
[06:55] <alkisg> Good morning
[11:15] <wima> does anyone how to disable the 'restart required' dialog after a kernel update?
[11:16] <wima> It seems that every user at login gets a dialog to restart the system if a package update requires so.
[11:16] <wima> On an LTSP system, this is of course not very useful
[11:17] <ogra> wima, it should go away if you actually did a restart
[11:18] <wima> i know
[11:18] <ogra> simple reciepe, dont do maintenance during worktime ;)
[11:18] <wima> but i cannot restart the system now. it is in use
[11:19] <wima> it is alwys worktime here :)
[11:19] <ogra> there is likely some file under /var/lib/update-notifier/
[11:19] <ogra> or in user.d in that dir
[11:19] <wima> i enabled automatic security updates. That was probably not a good isea
[11:20] <wima> thanks. I'll have a look
[11:20] <ogra> i think there is a way to adjust when they actually run
[11:20] <ogra> so you could let them run at night
[11:24] <wima> is it safe to just remove update-notifier? Is displaying this dialog the only thing it does?
[11:26] <ogra> no, leave it alone
[11:26] <ogra> it does all kinds of stuff
[11:27] <wima> ok
[11:41] <wima> editing /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required should do the trick...
[14:49] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:08] <Ahmuck-Sr> hi sbalneav
[15:28] <sbalneav> So, Laser's pulled a Magic Rabbit out of an orifice, and we've got dvd images now.
[15:28] <sbalneav> Wooot
[17:16] <Lns> Hi all
[17:16] <HedgeMage> hi
[17:17] <sbalneav> Hello
[17:17] <Lns> meeting in ~1hr?
[17:17] <Lns> is that correct?
[17:17] <Lns> Hi HedgeMage, scottie!
[17:17] <HedgeMage> Don't ask me, I don't keep track of meetings any more.
[17:18] <Lns> lol
[17:23]  * Lns notices the #edubuntu meetings are rarely on the ubuntu fridge calendar
[17:25] <sbalneav> I'm not sure.
[17:25] <sbalneav> I'll be here, anyay
[17:26] <Lns> coolio
[17:28] <Lns> hi LaserJock
[17:28] <LaserJock> highvoltage: you around?
[17:28] <LaserJock> hi Lns
[17:37] <alkisg> Woah, even nubae|work is here... this meeting will have the most participants ever :)
[17:45] <Lns> alkisg, what time is the meeting?
[17:45] <alkisg> Lns: I have no idea, I think you're the only one knowing about it :)
[17:46] <Lns> that's pretty sad!
[17:47] <Lns> t-14min
[17:47] <Lns> "next meeting a week from now: Fri Sept 4, 17:00 UTC"
[17:47] <LaserJock> there's a meeting?
[17:47] <alkisg> Lns, see? ^^^ :D
[17:48] <alkisg> Ummm we need to start writing an agenta... !
[17:48] <Lns> LOL...maybe i should just give you all access to my calendar through webdav and keep you all in line =p
[17:48] <LaserJock> an email the day of the meeting would probably suffice
[17:48] <LaserJock> or ... regular meetings times also are a big help
[17:49] <Lns> yeah that would probably be good :)
[17:49] <Lns> us humanoids are easy to train with repetition and structure
[17:54] <alkisg> There's a very silent "translations meeting" in #ubuntu-meeting now...
[18:02] <Lns> who scheduled the meeting?
[21:40] <ace_suares1> YO
[21:40] <ace_suares1> was at the beach, missed the meeting, also didn't put the meeting on the wiki or in the fridge, the fridge won't take my meeting updates anyway, next meeting a week from now, Fri 11 sep 17:00 UTC !
[21:41] <ace_suares1> :-)
[21:44] <nubae> what meeting?
[21:44] <nubae> I've been in here the whole time, and haven't seen or heard anything
[21:44] <alkisg> nubae: we pinged you :)
[21:44] <alkisg> (07:37:06 μμ) alkisg: Woah, even nubae|work is here... this meeting will have the most participants ever :)
[21:44] <nubae> hmmm... ok :-/
[21:45] <nubae> shit I must have been doing something else
[21:46] <nubae> I have got to get my act together and get to these meetings...
[21:50] <nubae> alkisg: btw,,, if u wanna see a presentation of how the local linux distro came into being and the impact it had on schools (maybe interesting to you dunno): http://speeches.ofset.org/jrfernandez/2009/ginebra_glx/
[21:51] <nubae> u need to hit space var ro make it go to next pages
[21:51] <nubae> clicking wouldnt work for me
[21:52] <ace_suares1> nubae the meeting would be in ubuntu-meeting anyway.
[21:52] <Lns> nubae, i mentioned pyclic but since you weren't there.... ;)
[21:52] <alkisg> nubae: sure I wanted to ask you about something like this, I wanna try and convince the ministry here to create/distibute a greek edu ubuntu remix...
[21:52] <nubae> yeah mia culpa
[21:52] <nubae> alkisg: well there is some amo... maybe
[21:54] <nubae> so the next meeting is next Friday... what time exactly?
[21:57] <Lns> same bat time, same bat chan?
[21:57] <ace_suares1> well SOMEONE needs to put in in Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting and also in the fridge. I propose we do regular weekly meetings so it's not that you need to wait 2 motnhs for the next one
[21:58] <ace_suares1> I know I lost a LOT of momentum waiting for a meeting that turned out to be well  hmm not a meeting since only sbalneav from the team was there. booh (but hurray for sbalneav)
[21:58] <alkisg> ace_suares1: laserjock was there
[21:59] <alkisg> He talked about the new dvd edubuntu release
[21:59] <ace_suares1> not last meeting ( I mean last week, not 4 hrs ago)
[21:59] <alkisg> Ah ok
[22:00] <ace_suares1> alkisg: I'd like that there would be a 'political' working group somewhere to help us convincing ministeries. Our Education Minister is totally not interested...
[22:00] <nubae> well, I didn't know there was a meeting to be honest... it wasnt sent to mailing list this time was it?
[22:00] <alkisg> Yeah that would be nice... here there are just a few people interested, and I hope we can climb though them to the upper levels ;)
[22:00] <ace_suares1> wow I only have to wait 5 hrs for the dvd to download! Hope it doesn't become a new build halfway through :-(
[22:01] <ace_suares1> but i guess the rsync will help me.
[22:01] <nubae> ace_suares1: I recommend u use rsync
[22:01] <nubae> or zsync... think thats active now in karmic downloads
[22:02] <ace_suares1> yeah nubae there are files qith zsync at the end, what do I do with thart?
[22:02] <ace_suares1> qith = with, thart=that
[22:03] <ace_suares1> should i NOT download the full iso first, but start with the zsync file ?
[22:03] <nubae> look for a zsync howto
[22:03] <ace_suares1> nubae thanks! I will definately do that some time!
[22:03] <ace_suares1> meanwhile...
[22:03] <nubae> and then write a course for it at linux-for-education.org :-)
[22:04] <ace_suares1> so I am aske dto test a dvd, and in order to do that, I do haver to first find a manual for zasync, and then write a moodle course for some site that is not edubuntu.org? Hmm
[22:04] <ace_suares1> dont know if I am motivated!
[22:04] <nubae> linux-for-education.org is related to ALL edu linux
[22:05] <nubae> and already contains 2 specific ed/ubuntu courses
[22:05] <ace_suares1> that doesnt really answer my question if I first should d/l the iso or not! Would be bad if I later discovered that that was a waste of time!
[22:05] <nubae> as far as I know its the only place u can find on how to set up your desktop to have a whole set of nice working apps for your edubuntu setup
[22:05] <nubae> why would it be a waste of time?
[22:06] <nubae> u learn zsync, and u download latest edubuntu image...
[22:06] <nubae> its hardly wasting time
[22:07] <ace_suares1> I started downloading the iso. Should I abort that and use zsync or can i use zsync later on that donwloaded iso ?
[22:07] <nubae> u can later use zsync on that download I would imagine
[22:07] <nubae> (don't quote/blame me if that is not the case)
[22:07] <ace_suares1> imagine... a world without war!
[22:08] <ace_suares1> so you don't know, okay, nice, you recommend zsync but you don't know this... a pity! Maybe you should leand zsync and write a tutrorial?
[22:09] <nubae> I know rsync, and I know what zsync does
[22:09] <nubae> but I dont know every intircate detail of it it, I use google for that
[22:09] <ace_suares1> nubae cool! I use google to. Couldn't find the answer to my question. Hmm maybe I won't test today, maybe tomorrow :-)
[22:09] <nubae> I write enough tutorials, probably far more than anyone else
[22:10] <nubae> so I do resent that comment
[22:10] <nubae> jeez.... makes me wonder why I even bother
[22:11] <ace_suares1> nubae: the point is: I am a nobody and I want to test. I started downloading a DVD that is more then 5 (more likely ten) hours of download. You hint that there is a better way. But that hint is incomplete. So as a newbie nobody tester, I stand in awe of those who know more, but what to do? I really don't know. That was my point, I was not trying to make you fele bad.
[22:12] <ace_suares1> Edubuntu needs better 'etiquette' towards people who want to help, Is my opnion.
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[22:14] <ace_suares1> with that donwload eating all my bandwidth, I'll put off editing the Meeting page till later...
[22:17] <Zhombee> I have a question about the edubuntu CD that I created from the dowloadable iso file. How is it possible that it cannot "find the package on the server" if the files are on the CD? Or am I assuming too much? I'm trying to install the educational desktop for ubuntu, and it keeps giving me that error.
[22:31] <Zhombee> Ah. I see.
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