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| MTeck | I want to start a project. It's taking something that's being developed in git and modifying it signaficantly. I doubt we'll continue on this project once our efforts are merged into the main branch. So it will be somewhat displosable... Any suggestions for how to handle it? | 02:30 |
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| thumper | MTeck: request a git import for the project | 02:50 |
| thumper | MTeck: then you can work with the bzr copy | 02:50 |
| MTeck | thumper: I was just wondering if I should make a whole new team for it | 02:51 |
| thumper | MTeck: so your changes are intended to be merged back into the git trunk? | 02:51 |
| MTeck | hope so | 02:51 |
| thumper | MTeck: well, register the project in LP, request a git import and mark it as the trunk branch | 02:51 |
| thumper | MTeck: what is the rationale about wanting a team? | 02:52 |
| thumper | MTeck: individuals can work colaboratively too without teams | 02:52 |
| MTeck | It's a few people that will be working on the project | 02:52 |
| MTeck | I think just 4, but I don't want access to trunk to be given to just one person | 02:53 |
| thumper | MTeck: sure, register a team, it's pretty simple | 02:53 |
| thumper | MTeck: well, trunk will be owned by ~vcs-imports initially | 02:53 |
| thumper | MTeck: your version can be owned by whomever you want | 02:53 |
| MTeck | I was mostly concerned if it would be worth the new project | 02:53 |
| MTeck | Thinking about it - it might be | 02:54 |
| thumper | if you are intending your code to be merged back | 02:54 |
| thumper | I don't see the point of a new project | 02:54 |
| thumper | it is just new work for the existing project | 02:54 |
| MTeck | oh, ok | 02:54 |
| thumper | that may or may not be merged back | 02:54 |
| thumper | if the direction changes and effectively forks | 02:54 |
| MTeck | I have the new team - no project until I click a button | 02:54 |
| thumper | then it is worthwhile registering a new project | 02:54 |
| MTeck | I doubt a fork will happen :P | 02:55 |
| thumper | in which case | 02:55 |
| thumper | stick with the original project | 02:55 |
| MTeck | ok | 02:55 |
| MTeck | so.. how do I request the merge? | 02:55 |
| MTeck | import* | 02:55 |
| thumper | MTeck: which project? | 02:56 |
| MTeck | coreutils | 02:56 |
| thumper | MTeck: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/code-imports/+new | 02:57 |
| thumper | oops | 02:57 |
| thumper | not that | 02:57 |
| MTeck | I lost something :( | 02:57 |
| MTeck | was it my mind? | 02:57 |
| thumper | MTeck: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new | 02:58 |
| MTeck | so - I need to create a project for it then? | 02:58 |
| thumper | there is a coreutils project | 02:58 |
| thumper | The Gnu Core Utilities | 02:58 |
| thumper | is that it? | 02:58 |
| MTeck | ok | 02:58 |
| MTeck | ya | 02:58 |
| MTeck | now I just wait? | 03:01 |
| thumper | yep | 03:01 |
| thumper | MTeck: shouldn't be long | 03:01 |
| MTeck | thumper: then I can be given the repo? | 03:02 |
| thumper | MTeck: the import is running | 03:02 |
| thumper | MTeck: I can't remember if we email you when it is done or not :) | 03:02 |
| arand | Are there currently problems with the remote bug watching for gnome bugzilla? | 03:05 |
| thumper | arand: not sure sorry | 03:05 |
| thumper | spm: any idea? | 03:05 |
| arand | I noticed Bug #246177 | 03:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 246177 in gnumeric "gnumeric help on plot log scale unclear" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246177 | 03:08 |
| MTeck | thumper: so that machine is doing 3 imports. | 03:09 |
| arand | " Launchpad couldn't import bug #563275 from GNOME Bug Tracker. " | 03:09 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 563275 could not be found | 03:09 |
| MTeck | lp is confusing - always new features | 03:09 |
| MTeck | what is a heartbeat? | 03:11 |
| thumper | MTeck: we could slow down if you like? | 03:11 |
| spm | thumper: I know in passing that gmb has been doing some things around the watcher (or so I construed), but to actual issues - not aware of any. | 03:11 |
| thumper | MTeck: it means that the import slave is alive :) | 03:11 |
| thumper | MTeck: if we stop getting heartbeats, it has zombied, so we kill it :) | 03:11 |
| MTeck | thumper: What is a heartbeat though? | 03:12 |
| thumper | MTeck: it is the import slave talking to the import controller | 03:12 |
| MTeck | oh | 03:13 |
| MTeck | thumper: you've had an import runnign for 1/2 mo ? | 03:15 |
| thumper | MTeck: heh, that's the linux kernel | 03:15 |
| thumper | MTeck: we try it every now and then | 03:15 |
| MTeck | lol - how long does it usually take? | 03:15 |
| thumper | MTeck: well, the new bzr repo format should make that go much faster | 03:16 |
| thumper | MTeck: we normally kill it before it has finished | 03:16 |
| MTeck | YOu should move "Last heartbeat" to the right a few spaces | 03:18 |
| thumper | MTeck: the new 3.0 layout has changed some things | 03:18 |
| thumper | MTeck: table padding is one | 03:18 |
| thumper | MTeck: we will be fixing it soonish :) | 03:18 |
| MTeck | whenever the new layout is finished? :P | 03:19 |
| thumper | MTeck: it should be for 3.0 | 03:20 |
| thumper | in about 3ish weeks | 03:20 |
| MTeck | cool | 03:20 |
| MTeck | This import is going to take a while, isn't it? | 03:20 |
| * thumper looks again | 03:21 | |
| thumper | MTeck: yes | 03:22 |
| MTeck | at least I started now instead of when I needed it :P | 03:22 |
| MTeck | any guesses how long? | 03:22 |
| MTeck | So, after the import, do I just take ownership of the branch and if I ever need, request an import of a fresh one? | 03:25 |
| thumper | MTeck: well it started 40 minutes ago and is 1/3 through | 03:41 |
| thumper | MTeck: so check back in 1.5h | 03:41 |
| MTeck | ok, cool | 03:41 |
| MTeck | and the last question? :) | 03:41 |
| MTeck | thumper: thanks for checking too | 03:41 |
| thumper | MTeck: no, the import will track the changes | 03:42 |
| thumper | MTeck: you branch it and have a personal copy | 03:42 |
| thumper | MTeck: you should set the import as the development focus | 03:42 |
| thumper | MTeck: actually you can't, it is owned by registry admins | 03:42 |
| MTeck | ok, thanks | 03:42 |
| thumper | spm: can you set the import as the dev focus for coreutils? | 03:42 |
| charles_ | hello | 03:43 |
| charles_ | new here | 03:43 |
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| days_of_ruin | Could someone change the permissions on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/giftwrap/+spec/use-libunique I am a member of the giftwrap-devs and I cannot edit this blueprint, I can edit all of the other ones. | 04:15 |
| days_of_ruin | I think it is because there used to be a different team that that branch was registered under. | 04:16 |
| days_of_ruin | Any lp admins on? | 04:26 |
| micahg | days_of_ruin: if no one answers, you can file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 04:28 |
| MTeck | days_of_ruin: You need to file a request for something like that anyway | 04:30 |
| MTeck | afaik | 04:30 |
| days_of_ruin | MTeck, ok thanks for the info. | 04:31 |
| MTeck | days_of_ruin: oh - I call the lp admins "rubber duckies" | 04:32 |
| days_of_ruin | lol | 04:32 |
| days_of_ruin | why? | 04:32 |
| MTeck | days_of_ruin: look at the bottom - https://edge.launchpad.net/~spm | 04:34 |
| days_of_ruin | xD | 04:35 |
| thumper | days_of_ruin: it is the icon of the admin team :) | 04:37 |
| MTeck | thumper: https://edge.launchpad.net/~hardware-certification | 04:37 |
| MTeck | s/towards/toward/ | 04:37 |
| thumper | MTeck: what about it? | 04:38 |
| MTeck | thumper: I just thought I'd let somebody know it's wrong | 04:38 |
| MTeck | towards isn't actually a word | 04:39 |
| thumper | MTeck: yep it is | 04:41 |
| thumper | kinda depends who you ask | 04:41 |
| thumper | I'll check my shorter oxford later | 04:41 |
| mwhudson | maybe a us/uk thing? | 04:41 |
| MTeck | No - an English vs. Bad English thing | 04:41 |
| mwhudson | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toward#Usage_notes | 04:42 |
| MTeck | it's like when people say probly instead of probably | 04:42 |
| mwhudson | MTeck: no it isn't | 04:42 |
| MTeck | ok.... | 04:43 |
| mwhudson | however | 04:43 |
| * MTeck world has been flipped | 04:43 | |
| mwhudson | launchpad is mostly us-ian english | 04:43 |
| MTeck | mwhudson: thanks for that link | 04:44 |
| MTeck | I need to run off now | 04:44 |
| mthaddon | towards something, perhaps... | 04:44 |
| thumper | mthaddon: heh | 05:04 |
| mthaddon | :) | 05:05 |
| spiv | Hmm, Launchpad is confused about me upgrading a hosted branch to 2a. | 05:57 |
| mwhudson | spiv: how so | 05:58 |
| spiv | lp:~spiv/bzr/insert-stream-check-chk-root is now 2a. It is stacked on lp:bzr/2.0, which is also 2a. But LP says: " | 05:58 |
| spiv | lp:~spiv/bzr/insert-stream-check-chk-root is now 2a. It is stacked on lp:bzr/2.0, which is also 2a. But LP says: "CHKInventoryRepository('lp-mirrored:///~bzr-pqm/bzr/2.0/.bzr/repository') is not compatible with KnitPackRepository('lp-mirrored:///~spiv/bzr/insert-stream-check-chk-root/.bzr/repository') different rich-root support | 05:58 |
| spiv | « No branches proposed for merging into this one. " | 05:58 |
| mwhudson | spiv: hey, the puller is open source now, feel free to fix it :) | 05:59 |
| spiv | The wrong piece of that puzzle would appear to be that lp-mirrored:///~spiv/bzr/insert-stream-check-chk-root/ is apparently not upgraded. | 05:59 |
| mwhudson | spiv: i guess we're trying to open the branch in it's mirrored area to determine it's format | 06:00 |
| mwhudson | and of course, if we could open it, we'd find it was different from the format in the hosted area and delete it | 06:00 |
| thumper | heh | 06:00 |
| thumper | oops | 06:01 |
| thumper | \o/ finally have tests for this annoying email bug | 06:01 |
| mwhudson | thumper: are you working on the merge proposal listing bug? | 06:01 |
| thumper | no | 06:01 |
| mwhudson | poolie elevated it to critical | 06:01 |
| thumper | and I reduced it to high | 06:01 |
| mwhudson | ok | 06:01 |
| spiv | mwhudson: oh, so the issue is that it needs to open it to find out the format, but because the branch is now unopenable because the stacked-on is now incompatible, it all falls over in a big heap? | 06:02 |
| mwhudson | spiv: that's my guess | 06:02 |
| mwhudson | spiv: haven't looked at the code yet though | 06:03 |
| spiv | mwhudson: that can probably be worked around by opening just the repository directly, I guess. | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | spiv: we want to check the branch format too though? | 06:03 |
| spiv | mwhudson: sure, but if the repository formats don't match you don't need to check the branch :) | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | i guess | 06:03 |
| spiv | Alternatively, | 06:04 |
| spiv | There's an ignore_fallbacks flag on open_branch now. | 06:04 |
| mwhudson | except errors.NotBranchError: | 06:04 |
| spiv | You could probably use that. | 06:04 |
| mwhudson | -> except (errors.NotBranchError, whatevers raised here): | 06:04 |
| mwhudson | in puller/worker.py:310 would also do it | 06:04 |
| mwhudson | but it's a bit of a hack | 06:04 |
| spiv | mwhudson: I'll file a bug I guess. This is pretty important though because it means no existing 1.9 bzr branches that are stacked can be upgraded. | 06:06 |
| * mwhudson points spiv at his build engineer hat | 06:06 | |
| mwhudson | spiv: but yes | 06:07 |
| spiv | mwhudson: that would be a hard hat, I suppose. | 06:07 |
| mwhudson | spiv: it has special attachments to collect the tears of blood | 06:07 |
| spiv | mwhudson: would it be excessively rude to file it with Critical priority? | 06:14 |
| thumper | spiv: yes | 06:15 |
| thumper | spiv: high is fine | 06:15 |
| spiv | thumper: So "high" would merely be rude, rather than excessively so? ;) | 06:16 |
| thumper | :) | 06:16 |
| spiv | thumper: #424136 | 06:16 |
| thumper | spiv: do you know how to fix this? | 06:16 |
| thumper | spiv: because to speed it up we could get some branches copied to staging, and try it there | 06:17 |
| spiv | thumper: yes; see the conversation I just had with mwhudson or the bug description | 06:17 |
| thumper | spiv: feel free to provide a branch that fixes it :) | 06:17 |
| thumper | spiv: and I'll support the criticality of it | 06:17 |
| MTeck | thumper: it doesn't look like the import finished correctly | 06:42 |
| MTeck | it ran 3hr 20min | 06:42 |
| MTeck | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31298189/coreutils-ddhash-log.txt | 06:42 |
| MTeck | gah - how do you guys pick server names :S | 06:46 |
| spm | depends on how vindictive the dce is feeling when it comes time to name them | 06:50 |
| MTeck | dce? | 06:50 |
| spm | data centre engineer | 06:50 |
| MTeck | galapagos isn't so bad - but neumayer and russkaya .... | 06:51 |
| MTeck | way over my head | 06:51 |
| MTeck | some of the others are just way out there too :P | 06:51 |
| spm | mind you... we typically use ssh cmd completion so it's no such a big deal ;-) | 06:51 |
| spm | praseodymium aka prasé | 06:52 |
| MTeck | ? | 06:52 |
| MTeck | I've tried learning other languages - never could | 06:52 |
| spiv | spm: so the acute on that é is the notation for where to use TAB completion? ;) | 06:52 |
| spm | is one of the ... controller servers fwiw. | 06:52 |
| MTeck | 2 years and all I have is , mas cervas por favor | 06:52 |
| MTeck | adn puedo ir al bano | 06:53 |
| spm | spiv: nah, was james having a troll at mwhudson and myself when we started shortning praseodymium to prase. he felt it had earnt the é :-) | 06:53 |
| mwhudson | MTeck: all the importd slaves are named after antartic research stations | 06:53 |
| MTeck | oh | 06:53 |
| mwhudson | fwiw | 06:53 |
| MTeck | I'd name them like importslave01 | 06:54 |
| spm | MTeck: I didn't know you were studying accountancy at Uni? ;-) | 06:54 |
| MTeck | hm? | 06:54 |
| spm | call it the zen of sysadmin. always give servers real names. not numerical ones. they tend to be... cared for??? better. | 06:55 |
| MTeck | I've been studying accounting - failed two classes so far | 06:55 |
| spm | MTeck: my meaning being that only accounting/managerial types tend to want "professional server names". | 06:55 |
| MTeck | I wouldn't really name them like that - I do like simple names though | 06:55 |
| MTeck | like carpo, sermo, inferno, etc | 06:56 |
| MTeck | oh - yes, I do likey the latin spins | 06:57 |
| spm | having real names has the advantage that the servers are... distinct. You dont get gobbledegook like CBTG01FP07 | 06:57 |
| MTeck | you mean like what happens in windows? :P | 06:57 |
| spm | no comment | 06:57 |
| spm | :-) | 06:58 |
| ojwb | C3P0 and R2D2? | 06:58 |
| MTeck | every server name I get has some light spin from this - http://www.math.ubc.ca/~cass/frivs/latin/latin-dict-full.html | 06:58 |
| spm | heh. nice! | 06:58 |
| spm | minerals was one prior favourite | 06:58 |
| MTeck | I'm just thinking - if I had a honeypot system, what would I call it | 06:59 |
| spm | I did laugh at how the Centre for Information Technology Research named all their machines after fruit. CITR == citrus == fruit. | 06:59 |
| spm | winnie | 06:59 |
| MTeck | corip is what I would name a honeypot system | 07:00 |
| MTeck | corripio : to seize, snatch up, steal, (of a disease) attack | 07:00 |
| MTeck | I just like short easy to pronounce names :P | 07:02 |
| MTeck | spm: that's interesting | 07:03 |
| jml | MTeck, prase is a terrible name :) | 07:08 |
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| dreamcat4 | hi all | 08:21 |
| dreamcat4 | launchpad/code: registering a new branch | 08:21 |
| dreamcat4 | what's the difference between 'hosted' and 'mirrored' choice? | 08:22 |
| radix | mirrored means that launchpad will pull the code from somewhere else | 08:22 |
| radix | hosted means you will push the code with bzr directly to launchpad | 08:23 |
| dreamcat4 | does it have to be another bzr repository or can it be github ? | 08:23 |
| radix | if you want to host code directly on launchpad, you don't actually have to "register a branch", you just need to push to lp:~<user-or-team>/<project-name>/<branch-name> | 08:23 |
| jml | dreamcat4, if you want, you can import a branch from github. | 08:23 |
| dreamcat4 | radix, that's pretty cool | 08:24 |
| dreamcat4 | okay looks like i should go the hosted route | 08:24 |
| dreamcat4 | thanks all | 08:24 |
| dreamcat4 | actually... i have written up a page about bzr-git importing | 08:25 |
| dreamcat4 | http://dreamcat4.jottit.com/working_together_-_git_and_bzr | 08:25 |
| dreamcat4 | you are welcome to put it in the ubuntu wiki | 08:25 |
| uwesch | Hi | 08:39 |
| uwesch | I#ve a question about projects and translations | 08:40 |
| uwesch | someone here who can answer? | 08:40 |
| dpm | uwesch: please post the question first :-) | 08:41 |
| uwesch | dpm: okay ;) | 08:42 |
| uwesch | I am a translator in the inkscape project https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape | 08:43 |
| uwesch | there is a button "Translatins" but there is nothing inside | 08:43 |
| uwesch | i would like to use this for my translations | 08:44 |
| uwesch | Who can help here? | 08:44 |
| dpm | uwesch: I seem to remember that inkscape does not use Launchpad for translations. They only use it for bugs. Let me check... | 08:46 |
| uwesch | i know | 08:46 |
| uwesch | and i don't know how other translation teams work together | 08:47 |
| uwesch | I'm in the German Team and i would like to use launchpad for translation issues | 08:47 |
| dpm | oh, I understand your question now... | 08:47 |
| dpm | well there would be 2 options, if I'm not mistaken: | 08:48 |
| uwesch | okay? | 08:50 |
| henninge | uwesch: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ | 08:50 |
| henninge | uwesch: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject | 08:50 |
| dpm | 1) Only inkscape upstream can decide on this, so you could contact them and convince them to use Launchpad for translations | 08:51 |
| uwesch | henninge: thx | 08:51 |
| dpm | henninge: he's not upstream, though. He's a translator and would like to use LP for inkscape translations (which are not currently in LP) | 08:52 |
| dpm | uwesch: you can point upstream to the links henninge showed you | 08:52 |
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| uwesch | okay, thank you | 08:54 |
| dpm | uwesch: or 2) you (or upstream) can create a translation group (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/) for inkscape and have it translatable in LP only for those teams who wish to use LP (see Gnucash as an example -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gnucash). I've never done this myself, so I cannot help you much with the details, but danilo, henninge or jtv might be able to assist you if you'd like to go down that route | 08:58 |
| henninge | dpm: ah, ok. I did that out of reflex .... ;) | 09:00 |
| dpm | :-) | 09:01 |
| uwesch | thanks a lot | 09:08 |
| philn | hi | 09:09 |
| dpm | uwesch: and one last note: for 1) getting upstream's translations into Launchpad would be as easy as mirroring upstream's SVN repo from http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/ in a bzr branch in LP and importing their translations. And with the new "commit translations to branches" feature, they could even set up a bzr branch where translations can be committed to automatically and they can then import them to their SVN | 09:10 |
| dpm | But upstream would have to decide on that | 09:10 |
| philn | i need to delete a team... :/ and send every current member a message, there's no mailing list configured for the team... can someone help me please? | 09:11 |
| uwesch | dpm: I've to talk to the maintainers of the inkscape project ;) | 09:11 |
| dpm | uwesch: sure, I just wanted to let you know the options :) | 09:12 |
| wgrant | philn: Only an admin can delete a team, but you can easily email all the members if you're a member. | 09:12 |
| wgrant | philn: https://launchpad.net/~someteam/+contactuser | 09:12 |
| philn | i am admin | 09:13 |
| wgrant | philn: A Launchpad administrator, sorry. | 09:13 |
| philn | ok | 09:13 |
| wgrant | philn: You can ask somebody to deactivate the team for you at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion | 09:13 |
| philn | ok | 09:14 |
| philn | i'll first send the goodbye message | 09:14 |
| henninge | uwesch: I looked at the inkscape translations | 09:19 |
| henninge | uwesch: it looks like it would be pretty easy to start using Launchpad Translations. | 09:19 |
| uwesch | henninge: really? | 09:19 |
| henninge | uwesch: They already generate a template file | 09:20 |
| henninge | uwesch: inkscape.pot in http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/inkscape/trunk/po/ | 09:20 |
| philn | i'm trying to log in to the wiki... but the connection page keeps loading, endlessly | 09:20 |
| uwesch | okay. so what would be the next steps? | 09:20 |
| henninge | uwesch: to setup code imports into Launchpad from that svn repository | 09:21 |
| henninge | uwesch: and then activate translation import from bzr | 09:21 |
| uwesch | bzr? | 09:21 |
| henninge | uwesch: bazaar | 09:21 |
| henninge | ubottu: http://www.bazaar-vcs.org/ | 09:22 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 09:22 |
| henninge | uwesch: ^ | 09:22 |
| henninge | ;) | 09:22 |
| henninge | uwesch: when the svn repository is imported into Launchpad it is converted to bzr. | 09:23 |
| henninge | a bazaar repository, I mean. | 09:23 |
| henninge | uwesch: and Launchpad Translations can import directly from there. | 09:23 |
| henninge | uwesch: BUT | 09:23 |
| uwesch | never heared about a bazaar repository | 09:24 |
| henninge | uwesch: to use the translations made in Launchpad, they will have to be exported again and then merged into inkscapes svn repository. | 09:25 |
| henninge | uwesch: yeah, we were discussing that problem on the mailing list .... ;-) | 09:25 |
| henninge | uwesch: I mean, that not enough people even know a about Bazaar. | 09:25 |
| henninge | uwesch: Bazaar is a great alternative to subversion. | 09:26 |
| henninge | uwesch: it is a distributed version control system, not centralized like subversion is. | 09:26 |
| henninge | uwesch: anyway, I am sure the inkscape people do know about it since they seem to have been working with Launchpad for longer. | 09:27 |
| henninge | uwesch: You might hear a common prejudice (Voruteil) concerning Launchpad Translations | 09:27 |
| henninge | uwesch: Vorurteil | 09:28 |
| henninge | meine Güte | 09:28 |
| henninge | predjudice | 09:28 |
| henninge | pardon my spelling, English and German ;) | 09:28 |
| uwesch | wir können auch deutsch reden ;) | 09:28 |
| henninge | uwesch: The predjudice is that Translations in Launchpad are bad because anybody can add translations. | 09:37 |
| henninge | uwesch: that is OLD and has been fixed a long time ago. | 09:37 |
| uwesch | okay, that make sense | 09:37 |
| uwesch | i should really takl to the maintainers of the inkscape project | 09:38 |
| henninge | uwesch: Launchpad Translations has mechanisms in place to let anybody make *suggestions* which are then approved by the core translators. | 09:38 |
| henninge | uwesch: yes, you should. Maybe there are other translations teams for incscape that would like to use Launchpad, too. | 09:39 |
| henninge | uwesch: raise it on the mailing list | 09:39 |
| henninge | I assume there is one ;-) | 09:39 |
| uwesch | henninge: that's a very good idea, thank you | 09:39 |
| henninge | uwesch: my pleasure | 09:40 |
| SiDi | Hi people | 10:42 |
| SiDi | Is the server hosting bazaar's web interface down ? I can't browse revisions at the moment | 10:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Hi all. Does LP provide read-only mirrors of bzr branches, or are all branches on LP read-write? | 10:43 |
| intellectronica | Kamping_Kaiser: they're all read/write, but only by the user the branch belongs to | 10:47 |
| intellectronica | Kamping_Kaiser: so, ~intellectronica/launchpad/my-branch is read/write to me, but read-only to you | 10:48 |
| intellectronica | Kamping_Kaiser: and ~kamping_kaiser/yourproject/yourbranch is read/write to you but read-only to me | 10:48 |
| intellectronica | Kamping_Kaiser: you can use teams to make a branch that is read/write for more than one user, but the usual model is that another user should branch and then offer the changes for merging, rather than modify trunk directly | 10:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | intellectronica: thanks for that. it all sounds sane enough. :) | 10:50 |
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| bac | Hello Launchpad. I'm the help contact today. Please contact me with your questions. | 11:01 |
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| Kmos | hi | 12:16 |
| Kmos | why 'ubuntu' as project in not valid in Also affects project ? | 12:16 |
| wgrant | Kmos: It's a distribution, not a project. | 12:16 |
| Kmos | ah ok.. how could I assign a bug to the team who takes care of ubuntu launchpad page? bug 421078 | 12:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 421078 in apport "no "apport-collect" link on bug pages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/421078 | 12:19 |
| Kmos | or subscribe | 12:19 |
| Kmos | I'm not sure if ubuntu drivers are acorrect | 12:20 |
| lfaraone | Kmos: you'd want to file that against Soyuz. | 12:23 |
| wgrant | lfaraone: No, Soyuz is not relevant here. | 12:23 |
| intellectronica | lfaraone, KmosL actually, that has nothing to do with soyu | 12:23 |
| lfaraone | wgrant: sorry, I mean malone. | 12:23 |
| Kmos | lfaraone: you can't add apport-collect to every project in launchpad | 12:24 |
| lfaraone | Kmos: but it'd need to be modified in malone. | 12:24 |
| wgrant | lfaraone is right. | 12:24 |
| intellectronica | Kmos: next week, we're going to disable bug filing via the web interface, and point users to a wiki page with clear instructions on how to use these tools. i think that pretty much covers what you're asking for? | 12:24 |
| Kmos | lfaraone: see my comment in the bug report, that can be avoided | 12:24 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: This is from within within existing bugs. | 12:25 |
| Kmos | intellectronica: sure | 12:25 |
| Kmos | if you add some extra text about existing bugs | 12:25 |
| lfaraone | Kmos: I think intellectronica is kidding. | 12:25 |
| intellectronica | lfaraone: i am very serious, actually | 12:25 |
| lfaraone | intellectronica: Oh? Hm. | 12:25 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: i don't understand, is the suggestion that we display information on how to add more information using apport-collect on bug pages for existing bugs? | 12:26 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: Precisely. | 12:26 |
| lfaraone | intellectronica: Yes. | 12:26 |
| intellectronica | hmmm ... that's an interesting idea | 12:26 |
| lfaraone | intellectronica: or better yet, add something akin to "apt:" which calls on apport from a browser. | 12:26 |
| intellectronica | well, file the bug on malone, we'll have to think if that's really something we want to do, but it's not a bad idea | 12:27 |
| lfaraone | intellectronica: that'd be harder, but prolly a good project for next year's GSoC | 12:27 |
| Kmos | ok | 12:27 |
| lfaraone | Kmos: I added malone to the bug. | 12:27 |
| intellectronica | we write code all year round. lfaraone, if you want to jump in and contribute a patch i'll be happy to help | 12:27 |
| intellectronica | but let's wait a bit until we're sure we actually want this feature and how it's going to be designed | 12:28 |
| lfaraone | intellectronica: if I had 5usd for each time I said "hey, that'd be a cool project to do when I'm free", I wouldn't have to worry about paying for college :) | 12:28 |
| intellectronica | lfaraone, Kmos: thanks | 12:28 |
| Kmos | lfaraone: I saw it now =) thanks | 12:28 |
| Kmos | np | 12:28 |
| lfaraone | Kmos: glad to help, sorry for the initial misdirection. | 12:28 |
| Kmos | I think we need it to be enabled only in some distributions. (x)ubuntu | 12:29 |
| lfaraone | Kmos: that'd be the easy part :) | 12:29 |
| Kmos | hehe | 12:29 |
| intellectronica | lfaraone: oh, you don't get five bucks whenever you have a good idea? here in europe we do. it's part of the comprehensive health care system ;) | 12:29 |
| lfaraone | intellectronica: yeah, but you end up paying 4.99$ of it back due to VAT ;) | 12:30 |
| intellectronica | :) | 12:30 |
| Kmos | loll | 12:31 |
| bigjools | lfaraone: you can edit the target of a bugtask instead of creating a new one, FYI | 12:37 |
| bigjools | soyuz is going to get bugmail now :( | 12:37 |
| bigjools | until deryck fixes that ;) | 12:38 |
| wgrant | This is why we have the null project. | 12:39 |
| lfaraone | bigjools: well, I marked it as invalid. | 12:41 |
| bigjools | lfaraone: I saw - but unfortunately it will still get bug mail :( | 12:41 |
| lfaraone | bigjools: that's silly. | 12:41 |
| bigjools | yep | 12:41 |
| sav | um.. is there anything wrong the doubah machine? | 12:53 |
| sav | (ppa) https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/81881 | 12:54 |
| wgrant | sav: That's impressive, but nothing to do with that particular builder. | 12:55 |
| wgrant | Oh. | 12:55 |
| sav | erm.. | 12:55 |
| sav | * Builder: https://launchpad.net/builders/doubah * Source: not available | 12:56 |
| wgrant | That's probably the buildd-manager race thing again. | 12:56 |
| wgrant | bigjools: ^^ | 12:56 |
| wgrant | sav: So, everything is OK, except the build status. The binaries are built and published. | 12:57 |
| sav | thanks for helping! :) | 12:58 |
| sav | wgrant: I just noticed that https://launchpad.net/builders/doubah says the builder deactivated. Should I just rebuild it? | 12:58 |
| bigjools | wgrant: remind me what that was again? | 12:58 |
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| wgrant | bigjools: buildd-manager sometimes races with itself and dispatches a successful build a second time. | 13:00 |
| bigjools | ah the double build | 13:00 |
| bigjools | yeah | 13:00 |
| bigjools | thought that was fixed. | 13:00 |
| wgrant | sav: No need. It's all fine now, but will fail the same way if you retry. | 13:00 |
| bigjools | hm | 13:00 |
| wgrant | Maybe get cprov to beat that build over the head when he wakes up. | 13:00 |
| wgrant | (ie. fix the status up) | 13:00 |
| wgrant | bigjools: So did I. | 13:01 |
| sav | wgrant: ok, thanks, I'll just leave it there, I have to get the next package ready. I won't touch it for the next 3-4 days (or even more heh) | 13:02 |
| wgrant | sav: The only problem you'll see is the red X on your PPA page. Everything else is fine. | 13:03 |
| sav | ooohh alrighty then :) | 13:03 |
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| cumulus007 | Hi, I'm trying to set up my own PPA. I want to have daily builds of Digikam in my PPA. I'm wondering how to upload the source code to my PPA. I can only upload .changes files | 15:06 |
| bigjools | cumulus007: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading | 15:06 |
| cumulus007 | I read that, but that doesn't help me. It says I can only upload .changes files | 15:06 |
| bigjools | no it doesn't :) | 15:07 |
| bigjools | "Dput uploads the following files: " | 15:07 |
| cumulus007 | yes I see, but can it upload source code in a tar.gz archive? | 15:07 |
| bigjools | cumulus007: no, source packages don't work like that | 15:07 |
| cumulus007 | hm okay, I'll read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage then | 15:08 |
| bigjools | you need to read about debian packaging | 15:08 |
| bigjools | great | 15:08 |
| bigjools | cumulus007: let me know how you get on | 15:08 |
| cumulus007 | sure :) | 15:08 |
| MTeck | I wonder if vcs will ever finish importing this package :( | 15:12 |
| c0rtis0n | Hey, when I want to upload a patch to launchpad which files are needed? | 15:21 |
| MTeck | c0rtis0n: #launchpad-dev can help you better | 15:21 |
| c0rtis0n | thx | 15:21 |
| cumulus007 | bigjools: debian packaging is complicated :| | 15:23 |
| c0rtis0n | Öhm sry but i thought -dev is for Launchpad-development only? What i ment were that i want to patch a bug wich is reported at launchpad | 15:23 |
| bigjools | yep :/ | 15:23 |
| lvh | hi! | 15:23 |
| MTeck | c0rtis0n: bug number? | 15:27 |
| c0rtis0n | MTeck Bug #158784 (I'am tkranz there...) | 15:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 158784 in cowbell "Typo in the translation makes cowbell writing wrong titles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158784 | 15:30 |
| MTeck | c0rtis0n: oh - Click "Add an attachment", add a comment, pick your patch file, then click the check box "This attachment is a patch" | 15:32 |
| c0rtis0n | I just don't know what the patch file is exactly... the diff.gz, the .dsc file, both or ist just the .fix file needed | 15:34 |
| MTeck | combine them into a tarball | 15:34 |
| c0rtis0n | ok thank you very mcuh | 15:35 |
| MTeck | All they probably need is the diff.gz - but you may as well give them the whole thing | 15:36 |
| c0rtis0n | I've uploaded the tarball now. Thx again. | 15:38 |
| cumulus007 | bigjools: I don't understand how to make a source package. I downloaded the latest revision of the digikam trunk and what should I do next? according to the ubuntu Wiki, I should download a pre-made debian source package but of course that isn't available for digikam trunk | 15:52 |
| bigjools | cumulus007: have you looked to see if someone has already built a package? | 15:52 |
| cumulus007 | well I don't think so because it's trunk | 15:52 |
| bigjools | I suggest you start with an existing package | 15:53 |
| bigjools | and update it | 15:53 |
| cumulus007 | that's a good idea | 15:54 |
| bigjools | then amend debian/control to change the version to something more appropriate for your PPA | 15:54 |
| MTeck | Mez: So... how've you been? | 15:54 |
| cumulus007 | where can I find source packages? Do I have to enable the "source code" checkbox in Software Sources? | 15:54 |
| bigjools | cumulus007: yes | 15:54 |
| cumulus007 | Okay :) | 15:54 |
| cumulus007 | bigjools: I enabled it, reloaded my package lists but there is still can't find a digikam source package | 15:58 |
| bigjools | cumulus007: apt-get source digikam | 16:00 |
| cumulus007 | bigjools: lol forgot about that, it's downloading :) | 16:03 |
| cumulus007 | bigjools: done. All I have to do now is to package the trunk into a tar.gz archive and rename it to a orig.tar.gz file? | 16:05 |
| bigjools | something like that, but check the package. your best bet now is to ask in #ubuntu-motu for more packaging advice | 16:06 |
| cumulus007 | Okay, thanks for the help :) | 16:07 |
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| MTeck | You guys think this will ever finish? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/coreutils/ddhash | 17:19 |
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| emma | henninge, jtv, Ursinha, danilos hi! | 17:30 |
| Ursinha | hi emma :) | 17:30 |
| emma | :) | 17:30 |
| danilos | heya emma :) | 17:32 |
| emma | Hehe :) | 17:32 |
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| MTeck | Ursinha: You know anything about vcs-import? | 17:44 |
| Ursinha | MTeck, what exactly? | 17:44 |
| Ursinha | (hi, btw :)) | 17:44 |
| MTeck | hi :), how've you been? | 17:44 |
| MTeck | Ursinha: thsi keeps failing - https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/coreutils/ddhash | 17:44 |
| Ursinha | MTeck, let me see the cause | 17:45 |
| Ursinha | hmm | 17:46 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, hi :) | 17:46 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, hello. | 17:46 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, I'm looking for a bug for this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31314543/coreutils-ddhash-log.txt and decided to ask you about it | 17:47 |
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| rockstar | Ursinha, I don't think there's a bug for that, but I'm willing to bet it's actually a bug in bzr-git. Maybe search there. | 17:49 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, I just found bug 419478 | 17:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419478 in launchpad-code "lp:~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk import failing: NoSuchRevision" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419478 | 17:49 |
| Ursinha | that mentions bug 402814 | 17:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 402814 in bzr-git "NotImplementedError importing a branch with submodules" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402814 | 17:49 |
| MTeck | I think I need to take off pretty soon | 17:50 |
| Ursinha | MTeck, I'd suggest you to subscribe yourself to bug 419478 | 17:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419478 in launchpad-code "lp:~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk import failing: NoSuchRevision" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419478 | 17:50 |
| MTeck | ok, I will | 17:51 |
| MTeck | Thanks | 17:51 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, is jelmer subscribed to those bugs as well? | 17:57 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, don't know | 17:57 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, bugs in git importing probably need to be seen by him. | 17:58 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, in the bzr-git he might be indirectly, he made comments in that bug | 17:59 |
| Ursinha | in the bug 419478 don't think so | 18:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419478 in launchpad-code "lp:~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk import failing: NoSuchRevision" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419478 | 18:00 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, hm, it seems he's on both | 18:00 |
| rockstar | Okay, great. Just so that he knows. | 18:01 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, but it seems he marked the bug as incomplete | 18:03 |
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| bac | sinzui: did you intend that OEM call to be 11 hours long? i may have to decline. | 18:25 |
| sinzui | bac: there should also be an email sent 30 seconds later that shows it may be 45 minutes long | 18:26 |
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| james_w | how do I get to the source code of a branch from the branch page now? | 19:19 |
| AlexC_ | g'morning | 19:40 |
| AlexC_ | wondering if it would be possible to get someone to review these files: https://translations.launchpad.net/tangocms/trunk/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot | 19:40 |
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| bac | hi AlexC_, unfortunately the translations team is finished for the day. | 19:48 |
| AlexC_ | oh man | 19:49 |
| AlexC_ | well thanks anyway, guess I'll have to wait another few days for automatic translations to import so I can do what I wanted to do days ago :P | 19:50 |
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| ohmy | hello | 22:00 |
| ohmy | I would like to have your feeding, is the actual version of launchpad suitable to run on production environement ? i mean, i would like to host an application using a local instance of lanchpad. I have just installed it on a fresh jaunty server and have seen some warnings about some features to disable in production | 22:04 |
| ohmy | one more question please, i'm stuck at this step https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/RemoteAccess | 22:05 |
| ohmy | In fact my /etc/apache2/ports.conf is very light, it only contains NameVirtualHost *:80 and Listen 80 (it referes to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default) | 22:09 |
| wgrant | ohmy: The code you have is the exact code that runs on launchpad.net. So yes, it is production ready. HOWEVER | 22:09 |
| wgrant | I point you to the third paragraph on https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | 22:09 |
| wgrant | And I also wonder why you want to run your own. | 22:10 |
| ohmy | wgrant, Simply because we have a very large LAN network and no internet access (trust me !) | 22:11 |
| ohmy | wgrant, thank you for the answers | 22:11 |
| wgrant | ohmy: So, you can't run your own production Launchpad instance without a lot of work to replace the images and branding. | 22:12 |
| ohmy | wgrant, i believe this is the easiest part of the work | 22:12 |
| ohmy | wgrant, for the moment i'm stuck with "seeing is believing", i mean with https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/RemoteAccess step :) | 22:14 |
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| ohmy | i don't know why but i can"t access my server from an LAN machine, it always redirect me to the default apache "It works!", any one have an idea please ? | 22:27 |
| maxb | You have looked at how many images there are, right? I actually made a list of them all, because I'd like to have a private instance too, but when I did I discovered that the magnitude of a project to replace them all would be HUGE | 22:28 |
| maxb | Also, I am the author of the RemoteAccess page in its current form, so I can assure you that it does work, though it assumes you're confident with understanding Apache vhosts | 22:31 |
| ohmy | maxb, of course, i've never doupt it works i'm just trying to figure what did i miss since all the work was done by a proven rocketfuel-setup script | 22:34 |
| ohmy | maxb, when you mentinned "Change all <VirtualHost 127.0.0.88:80> lines to <VirtualHost *:80>" i have already this ligne podified in the port.config | 22:35 |
| ohmy | maxb, without any change from myside | 22:35 |
| ohmy | sorry, i meant i have no occurence of 127.0.0.88:80 everything is already set to *:80 (sorry for the my mistake) | 22:39 |
| maxb | Have you not seen the /etc/apache2/sites-available/local-launchpad file? | 22:41 |
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| moldy | hi | 23:02 |
| moldy | a small suggestion: it would be nice to add this: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/59047 to https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors | 23:03 |
| maxb | It is a wiki, remember :-) | 23:07 |
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| ohmy | Hello again | 23:17 |
| ohmy | I have just switched to my old launchpad install witch is ok | 23:17 |
| ohmy | could you please tell me how to add new admin and to remove the username: admin@canonical.com | 23:18 |
| moldy | maxb: indeed, i did not quite realize this yet :) | 23:19 |
| maxb | ohmy: Removing users is impossible without messing with raw SQL | 23:23 |
| maxb | which is likely to be severely difficult | 23:23 |
| ohmy | maxb, indeed | 23:24 |
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