[02:53] <micahg> what's that initial boot thingy called that goes back and forth with the logo?
[02:56] <hggdh> usplash/xsplash
[03:00] <arand> Are the reomte bug watcher for bugzilla supposed to ste status automatically, and should I set a "fix released" on the upstream for Bug #246177 ?
[03:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 246177 in gnumeric "gnumeric help on plot log scale unclear" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246177
[03:00] <arand> *Is *remote *set
[03:01] <hggdh> arand, they should auto-update. Sometimes it fails, though.
[03:01] <hggdh> give it a day; if still not updated, do it yourself.
[03:01] <hggdh> arand, in this case you may also want to ask at #launchpad for what happened
[03:02] <micahg> it should say on the bug when the last update was
[03:02] <micahg> Launchpad couldn't import bug #563275 from GNOME Bug Tracker.
[03:03] <arand> upstream update was four weeks ago, as noted.
[03:03] <micahg> check in #launchpad about a b.g.o problem
[03:03] <arand> b.g.o ?
[03:04] <hggdh> hum. Yes, b.g.o updated bugzilla some time ago (recent), so there might still be some quirks
[03:04] <micahg> bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:04] <hggdh> bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:04] <hggdh> :-)
[03:04] <arand> ah :)
[03:11] <micahg> hggdh: 15 minutes with Karmic Alpha 5 and 3 new bugs :)
[03:13] <hggdh> yeeeeh
[03:18] <micahg> That's why I wait for beta to upgrade :)
[03:23] <hggdh> me, I like to suffer, and have been running karmic since the beginning
[03:23]  * micahg uses Ubuntu for work
[03:23]  * hggdh also
[03:23] <micahg> needs 99%+ working
[03:24] <hggdh> well, I also need it -- this is my official work instrument. But, being careful, I have never had an issue that put me down for more than one hour
[03:25] <hggdh> so, when I do an update, I am very, very carefull on what I am updating
[06:12] <dholbach> good morning
[06:13] <aboSamoor> good morning
[06:14] <dholbach> hi aboSamoor
[06:17] <aboSamoor> Hi, dholbach
[06:17] <metalf8801> has anyone else tried to install Ubuntu 9.10 alpha 5 in virtualbox and gotten an error saying that they need to run fsck manually?
[06:18] <aboSamoor> I want to ask how can I debug pulseaudio/alsa efficiently ?
[06:18] <metalf8801> I'm not asking for help I got it working
[06:18] <aboSamoor> maybe not debug as make good bug reports, I have three issues regarding pulseaudio/alsa
[06:18] <metalf8801> I'm just wondering if it happened to anyone else
[06:45] <Hobbsee> metalf8801: yeah, it's been recorded in the iso testing tracker
[06:45] <Hobbsee> (and there is a bug)
[06:48] <metalf8801> ok good can you give me link?
[07:16] <Hobbsee> metalf8801: not offhand.  if you google ubuntu isotracker and look at the ubuntu results, it should be there
[07:18] <metalf8801> yeah I did I didn't see any thing about fsck
[07:21] <Hobbsee> metalf8801: is that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clock-setup/+bug/423247 ?
[07:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 423247 in clock-setup "Superblock last mount times cause fsck to fail" [High,Fix released]
[07:21] <metalf8801> thank you
[07:22] <Hobbsee> you're welcome
[13:10] <mac_v> seb128: any ideas/suggestions about this bug> Bug #417824 , seems like a devkit bug , does any more info need to be provided... its messing up other components which try to invoke the power state :(
[13:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 417824 in gnome-panel "Gnome-panel loads very late after session start" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417824
[13:11] <seb128> mac_v, not idea, seems a gnome-power-manager issue, try asking chrisccoulson or pitti on #ubuntu-desktop rather
[13:12] <mac_v> ok ... thanks :)
[14:51] <qense> edlik: this channel is for discussing bugs, if you need support I'd suggest you to go to the channel #ubuntu or to #ubuntu+1 for the (unstable) development version.
[16:09] <qense> What to do with bug #342224 ? Shall I point to reporter at the SRU guidelines, or should the bug be closed because it doesn't follow the guidelines for requesting an upgrade>
[16:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 342224 in libmtp "Please backport libmtp 0.3.6 in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342224
[16:09] <qense> s/>/?
[16:24] <hggdh> qense: please point the reporter to the SRU guidelines. It looks more like he does not know about them
[16:24] <qense> ok
[16:25] <qense> thanks
[16:25] <hggdh> qense: oh, and welcome back :-)
[16:25] <qense> thanks!
[16:44] <dholbach> Ubuntu Developer Week - last day, starting in 16 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[17:47] <qense> There was a post on Ubuntu Planet lately containing a nicely done infographic pointing us at a way of adding bug links to Bugzilla bug reports. I can't find that box on GNOME Bugzilla. Did they disable it, or can you only do it when reporting a bug?
[17:51] <pedro_> qense, you mean the box of the "add bug urls:"  ?
[17:52] <qense> probably
[17:52] <pedro_> qense, i can see it here without any issues
[17:52] <qense> it was the infographic with those screaming MS Paint like additions ;)
[17:52] <pedro_> just under the "CC list"
[17:52] <pedro_> heh
[17:52] <qense> ah, there
[17:52] <qense> thanks!
[17:53] <pedro_> you're welcome
[17:53] <pedro_> here is the post btw: http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/gnome-bugzilla-update/
[18:44] <qense> Is there someone who can help me with bug #410763 ? I don't know enough about stack traces to say what caused the freezes in Rhythmbox and Banshee during playback, although I suspect GStreamer.
[18:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 410763 in banshee "[karmic] Banshee freeze after some song playback" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410763
[18:47] <hggdh>  qense, you mean the last backtrace (last comment)?
[18:48] <qense> yes, although that contains a lot of nothing
[18:48] <hggdh> yes, it is very incomplete
[18:48] <hggdh> it seems the reporter did not install the necessary dbgsyms
[18:49] <qense> although the second latest also is the right one, at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30425942/banshee-thread.log
[18:49] <qense> I forgot that
[18:49] <qense> the latest is about the X freeze iirc
[18:50] <qense> but you say this isn't enough information to properly determine the cause?
[18:52] <hggdh> no, there is not enough data... it seems the reporter had the glib dbgsym, and libc6, but no much more
[18:52] <hggdh> so we do not know who is doing what
[18:52] <hggdh> hum
[18:53] <hggdh> one easy way for the reporter: force another freeze, and then go to the console, and kill -11 banshee. This will create a SIGSEGV, and apport will kick in for it. Then open a new bug, and write the bug # in the current one
[18:54] <hggdh> reason is the apport backoffice retrace will take care of loading the correct dbgsyms, and we will have a kosher trace to work on
[18:55] <qense> ha, that's a nice way of getting the right information
[18:55] <qense> I'll ask him to do so
[18:55] <qense> thanks for your help!
[18:58] <hggdh> qense: welcome
[19:41] <matti> ;]
[20:09] <^arky^> Why is Traiged status entry is disabled for me?
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> ^arky^ - are you a member of ubuntu-bugcontrol?
[20:16] <qense> bdmurray: what do you think of https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2009-August/001533.html ? Do you agree with the changes?
[20:17] <qense> am going offline now, I will read the backlog though, and of course answers to the mailist
[20:19] <^arky^> well, I am trying to apply for it , so I need to mention few bugs for question 5
[20:52] <micahg> ogasawara: about bug 424086
[20:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 424086 in linux "if /boot is full, cannot remove older kernels while installing new ones" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424086
[20:52] <micahg> the problem might be in grub
[20:52] <micahg> but I think it tries to rebuild an image even when removing
[20:53] <micahg> I wasn't sure it a script in thelinux package was controlling it though
[20:53] <ogasawara> micahg: how were you trying to install?  apt-get install
[20:53] <ogasawara> ?
[20:53] <micahg> I was using aptitude
[20:53] <micahg> I installed 2.6.28-15
[20:53] <micahg> it failed
[20:53] <micahg> due to space
[20:53] <micahg> I tried removing 2.6.28-11
[20:54] <micahg> it failed since it couldn't rebuild an image in /boot on uninstall
[20:54] <micahg> maybe I should attach the dpkg terminal log
[20:54] <micahg> but I fiigured it was either a pre or post install script in the linux package
[21:08] <BUGabundo> heya
[21:09] <dutchie> what is the best way to report bugs up to debian?
[21:09] <dutchie> reportbug --bts debian ?
[21:10] <BUGabundo> sufre
[21:10] <micahg> ogasawara: what do you think of what I wrote above?
[21:11] <BUGabundo> that helps dutchie
[21:11] <dutchie> was "sufre" supposed to be "sure"?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> sure
[21:13] <BUGabundo> sorry
[21:13] <dutchie> great thanks, just wasn't sure, and don't have a debian box...
[21:14] <BUGabundo> not do I have one here
[21:14] <BUGabundo> ehe
[21:43] <hggdh> pedro_: I added info about the mentorship to GettingInvolved
[21:43] <pedro_> hggdh, great, thanks
[21:44] <hggdh> will do more as I have time ;-)
[21:49]  * mac_v doesnt understand "Offer mentorship" :(
[22:00]  * ^arky^ don't understand 'offer mentorship' either 
[22:00]  * micahg meant to help with that...
[23:00] <eltoozero> Can someone perhaps answer a bug etiquette question?
[23:04] <BUGabundo> eltoozero: bug id?
[23:06] <eltoozero> #418703
[23:07] <eltoozero> Would I be a bad person for uploading files to satisfy bug request if I've got the same hardware and I'm experiencing the same bug?
[23:07] <eltoozero> I don't have a Dell Mini 9, but I've got the GMA 950 and Intel 945gme chipset...
[23:10] <BUGabundo> bug 418703
[23:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 418703 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Busy mouse cursor flickers like mad" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418703
[23:10] <BUGabundo> don't think you would
[23:10] <BUGabundo> feel free to help
[23:11] <BUGabundo> OTOH I refuse to accept packages that I don't have the source, or control the way they have been build
[23:13] <bdmurray> eltoozero: since this is hardware specific reporting a new bug is best.  It is much easier to consolidate bugs than separate them.
[23:17] <eltoozero> bdmurray, our hardware is the same, just in different boxes
[23:18] <eltoozero> Dell mini 9 also runs a GMA 950 and i945.
[23:19] <eltoozero> I ask because I've got the same hardware, just not specifically the Dell.
[23:19] <bdmurray> eltoozero: well, if you are positive it is the same video card then it'll likely be fine.  However, you might end up needing to rereport if they aren't the same.
[23:21] <eltoozero> bdmurray, it's always a judgment call, if the spec didn't match I would have indeed made a new bug.
[23:21] <eltoozero> Thanks people!